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Big A gun

Postby HartmutHolzwart » June 27th, 2009, 11:31 am

Some time ago, someone posted a glider synthesis for the "big A" tagalong (32P4H2V0.5).

x = 15, y = 20, rule = B3/S23
2$3b4o$3bo3bo$3bo$4bo2bo2$8b4o$7bo2bo$7bo2bo$7bo2bo$8b4o2$4bo2bo$3bo$
3bo3bo$3b4o!

Unfortunately I lost that synthesis. Can anybody recover it? Is it possible to build a gun for that ship?

Thanks in advance,
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Re: Big A gun

Postby hkoenig » June 27th, 2009, 1:26 pm

#C 32P4H2V0.5 (Big A)
#C by J.Summers
x=29, y=39
bobo21bobo$2b2o2b2o13b2o2b2o$2bo4bo13bo4bo$7bobo9bobo$8b2o9b2o2$bobo21bob
o$2b2o21b2o$2bo23bo2$9bo$10b2o$9b2o2$17bo$o15bobo9bo$b2o13b2o8b2o$2o25b2o10$10b
obo3bobo$11b2o3b2o$11bo5bo$8b2o9b2o$7bobo9bobo$9bo9bo4$7bo13bo$7b2o11b2o$6b
obo11bobo!


This is incomplete, as you still need to come up with the collisions to properly place the Fishhook eaters and Boat.
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Re: Big A gun

Postby HartmutHolzwart » June 28th, 2009, 3:24 pm

Could someone work on that one?
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Re: Big A gun

Postby Awesomeness » August 2nd, 2009, 9:39 pm

HartmutHolzwart wrote:Could someone work on that one?

I've discovered that I'm good with glider synthesis. I suppose it might be my "specialty", as many people say. Anyways, after about a half an hour of tinkering, thinking, and making sure the wrong gliders don't collide, here's the finished product:

x = 73, y = 83, rule = B3/S23
bobo65bobo$2b2o65b2o$2bo67bo4$bobo65bobo$2b2o65b2o$2bo67bo2$9bo$10b2o$
9b2o3$o71bo$b2o67b2o$2o69b2o8$49bo$48bo$10bobo35b3o9bobo$11b2o47b2o$
11bo49bo2$22b2o$23b2o$22bo15b2o$38bobo$38bo$54b2o$53b2o$28b2o25bo$27bo
bo$29bo8$29b2o$30b2o$29bo24$8b2o53b2o$7bobo53bobo$9bo53bo4$7bo57bo$7b
2o55b2o$6bobo55bobo!

I seem to be good with this kind of thing. =)
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Re: Big A gun

Postby HartmutHolzwart » August 3rd, 2009, 3:49 pm

Now this could lead to a gun, couldn't it?

That would be the first new one in quite a time!

Thanks,
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Re: Big A gun

Postby Nathaniel » August 3rd, 2009, 7:49 pm

HartmutHolzwart wrote:Now this could lead to a gun, couldn't it?


Indeed it could. P690 big A gun (built using the same p690 technology in the P690 60P5H2V0 gun by Jason Summers):
#C p690 big A gun
#C Built by Nathaniel Johnston on August 3, 2009
#C Glider synthesis by Jason Summers and Awesomeness
x = 393, y = 414, rule = B3/S23
363bo$362bobo$361bob2o$355b2o3b2ob2o$25bo305b2o22b2o4bob2o$23bobo304bo
2bo28bobo$16bo5bobo308bo29bo$15b3o3bo2bo11b2o295bo42bo$14bo3bo3bobo11b
2o22b2o269bobo41b3o$16bo6bobo34b2o269bobo40b5o$13bo5bo5bo306bo40b2o3b
2o$13bo5bo$14bo3bo334bo3bo$15b3o311b2o3b2o5b2o9bo5bo9b2o$329bo5bo5b2o
15bo9b2o5b3o$353bo3b2o16b3o$39b4o17bo269bo3bo19b3o23b2o$23b2o14bo2b2o
6b2o7b3o257b2o10b3o46b2o$23b2o15bo2b2o5b2o6b5o254bo3bo32b3o18b2o6b2o6b
2o$40bo2bo13bobobobo247b2o3bo5bo30bo3b2o15bo2bo5b3o5b2o$9b2o30b2o14b2o
3b2o247b2o2b2obo3bo18b2o15bo16b2o6b2o$bo7bo2bo12bo3bo38bo247bo5bo18b2o
9bo5bo21b2o$o3b2o7bo10bobobobo10b2o23b4o247bo3bo31bo3bo22b2o$o5bo6bo8b
2o2bobo2b2o7bo2bo16bo4bobob2o9b2o237b2o$b5o7bo8b2o7b2o7bo2b2o5b2o7bobo
2bo2bob3o8b2o$9bo2bo9b2o2bobo2b2o6bo2b2o6b2o7bobo3bobob2o$9b2o13bobobo
bo8b4o17bo5b4o$25bo3bo38bo257b2o$326b2o3$65b2o259b3o3b3o$26bo38b2o259b
o2bobo2bo27bo$27b2o299b2ob2o27b2o$26b2o333b2o$324bo11bo$325bo9bo$47bo
249b2o28bobobobo15bo$45b2o250b2o28bobobobo16b2o$46b2o280b2ob2o16b2o$
325bo2bo3bo2bo$94b2o202bo27b2o5b2o$94b2o201b3o$58b3o3b3o229bo3bo$57bo
3bobo3bo230bo$56bo3b2ob2o3bo226bo5bo$56bob2o5b2obo226bo5bo$58bo7bo229b
o3bo$297b3o2$286bo$94bo189bobo$93b3o181b2o4bobo$92b5o180b2o3bo2bo$91b
2o3b2o6bo178bobo40b2o5b2o$92b5o5bobo179bobo39b2o5b2o$92bo3bo3b2o12b2o
170bo$93bobo4b2o12b2o$58b2o5b2o27bo5b2o$58b2o5b2o35bobo251bo$104bo187b
2o61b3o$292b2o61bob2o$356b3o$356b2o6b2o$99b2o30b2o231b2o$99b2o30b2o
159b3o3b3o$291bo2bo3bo2bo$27b2o266bobo$27b2o262b2o7b2o$291b2o7b2o$131b
o162bo3bo$36bo94bo162b2ob2o$27b3o5b3o92bobo159b3o3b3o$27b3o4b2obo91b2o
b2o128b2o28b2o5b2o63bo$26bo3bo3b3o91bo5bo127b2o28bo7bo62b3o$25bo5bo3b
2o94bo230b5o$26bo3bo62bo5bo28b2o3b2o226b2o3b2o6bo$27b3o62bobo3bobo39b
2o220b5o5bobo$91bo3bobo3bo38bobo219bo3bo3b2o12b2o$91bo3bobo3bo29bo3b2o
4b3o7b2o110bo99bobo4b2o12b2o$16bobo72bo9bo28bob3o2bo4b3o6b2o110bo100bo
5b2o$14bo3bo111bob2ob2o4b3o118bobo107bobo$7b2o5bo77b2o5b2o30bo8bobo
118b2ob2o108bo$7b2o4bo4bo121b2o118bo5bo$14bo248bo$14bo3bo241b2o3b2o$
16bobo75bo3bo154b2o89bo24b2o$130bo5b2o114bobo37b2o5b2o43bobo16bo5b2o$
90b2o3bobo3b2o27bo5b2o104b2o7b3o4b2o3bo28b2o5b2o32b2o12b2o5bo7b3o$95bo
bo31b3o110b2o6b3o4bo2b3obo68b2o12b2o4bobo5bo3bo$22b2o24bobo200b3o4b2ob
2obo82b2o3bo3bo4b2ob2o$22b2o24bo3bo37bo2bo5bo2bo25b2ob2o119bobo8bo80bo
bo5b5o$52bo5b2o32b2o5b2o27b2ob2o120b2o89bo6b2o3b2o4b3o$48bo4bo4b2o69bo
bo220b5o5b3o$52bo77bo222b3o$48bo3bo301bo$48bobo206b2o$22b3o3b3o194b2o
30b2o$21bo2bo3bo2bo193b2o$21bo3bobo3bo5b3o88b3o5b3o225b2ob2o$20b2obobo
bobob2o3bo3bo88b3o3b3o226b2ob2o$20b2ob2o3b2ob2o2bo5bo85bob4ob4obo224b
2ob2o$21b3o5b3o4bo3bo87b2o2bobo2b2o197b2o24bob2ob2obo$37b3o89b3o3b3o
198b2o24b3o3b3o$37b3o90bo5bo120b3o3b3o87b2o8bo5bo$257bo2bobo2bo87b2o$
55b2o199bo3bobo3bo$55b2o199b4o3b4o$38b2o217bo7bo$38b2o183b2o3b2o$56bo
105b2o50bobo8b3o$55b3o104b2o50bo2bo6bo3bo107bo$54bo3bo146b2o10b2o6bobo
107b3o$56bo148b2o8bo3b2o5bo107b5o23b2o5b2o$53bo5bo69b2o5b2o72b2o5b2o
114b2o3b2o22b2o5b2o$53bo5bo69b2o5b2o71bo4bo2bo126bo$54bo3bo103bo51bobo
126bobo$22b2o5b2o24b3o102b2ob2o177bob2o10b2o$22b2o5b2o304b3o3b2ob2o10b
2o$44bo114bo5bo169b3o4bob2o$42bobo175b2o121bobo$35b2o4bobo115b2obob2o
54b2o122bo$35b2o3bo2bo$41bobo127b2o84b2o5b2o$42bobo118b4o4b2o84b2o5b2o
$44bo117b6o6b2o6b2o134bo22b2o$161bob2o3bo5b3o5b2o133bobo21b2o$161bo5bo
6b2o129b2o10b2obo4b3o$162bo8b2o132b2o10b2ob2o3b3o$50b2o4b3o19bo13b2o
77b2o144b2obo$50b2o3bo3bo18bobo11b2o223bobo$55b2ob2o19bobo4b2o230bo$
56bobo20bo2bo3b2o133bo5bo95b2o3b2o$79bobo85b2o51b3o3b3o95b5o$56bobo19b
obo13b2o71b2o50b2ob2ob2ob2o95b3o$55b2ob2o18bo139b3o7b3o95bo$55bo3bo$
56b3o6b3o152bo7bo105b3o3b3o$64bo3bo232b2o30bo3bobo3bo$63bo5bo20b2o3b2o
204b2o29bo3b2ob2o3bo$63bo5bo21b5o236bob2o5b2obo$66bo24b2ob2o238bo7bo$
64bo3bo12b2o8b2ob2o$65b3o5bo7bo2bo7b3o204b2o24b2o$66bo5bo3b2o7bo239b2o
$72bo5bo6bo75bo5bo$49b3o5b3o13b5o7bo74bobo3bobo$49bo2b2ob2o2bo6b2o13bo
2bo74bo3bobo3bo50b2o5b2o$50b3o3b3o7b2o13b2o76bo3bobo3bo50b2o5b2o69b2o
3b2o$51bo5bo101bo9bo129b5o$299b2ob2o$160b2o5b2o130b2ob2o8b2o$87b2o25b
2o184b3o7bo2bo7bo12b2o5b2o$87b2o23bo2bo7bo185bo7b2o3bo11b2o5b2o$111bo
7b2o3bo184bo6bo5bo$111bo6bo5bo37bo3bo142bo7b5o$50b2o5b2o52bo7b5o186bo
2bo$50b2o5b2o43b3o7bo2bo42b2o3bobo3b2o141b2o$101b2ob2o8b2o47bobo$87b3o
3b3o5b2ob2o$86bo2bo3bo2bo4b5o52bo2bo5bo2bo$86bo3bobo3bo3b2o3b2o53b2o5b
2o110b2o25b2o$85b2obobobobob2o166b2o5bo7bo2bo23b2o$85b2ob2o3b2ob2o166b
2o4bo3b2o7bo$86b3o5b3o173bo5bo6bo$271b5o7bo$101b2o176bo2bo7b3o$264bo
14b2o8b2ob2o$263b3o23b2ob2o$262bo3bo22b5o$103b2o156bob3obo20b2o3b2o$
103b2o157b5o4$123b2o149bo17b2o5b2o5b2o$123b2o144bo4b4o21bob2ob2obo$
269bo5b4o5b2o14bobobobo$275bo2bo5b2o14bobobobo$87b2o5b2o179b4o11b2o7bo
7bo$87b2o5b2o178b4o12b2o$274bo2$301b2ob2o$263bo35bo2bobo2bo$244bo17b3o
4b2o28b3o3b3o$121b2o3b2o113b4o16bo3bo3b2o29bo5bo$233b2o5b4o17b2ob2o$
112b2o8bo3bo106b2o5bo2bo17b2ob2o33b2o5b2o$112b3o8b3o114b4o5bo49b2o5b2o
$103b2o9b2obo5b3o115b4o4bo11b2ob2o$103bo5bo4bo2bo126bo16b2ob2o$108bo5b
2obo143bo3bo$104bo3bo3b3o147b3o$106bo5b2o149bo$252b5o$251bob3obo$252bo
3bo$118b2o4b3o18b2o106b3o$118b2o3bo3bo16b3o107bo$123b2ob2o13bob2o9b2o$
124bobo14bo2bo4bo5bo106bo7bo$133b3o5bob2o5bo110b4o3b4o$124bobo6b3o8b3o
3bo3bo98b2o6bo3bobo3bo13b2o5b2o$123b2ob2o4bo3bo8b2o5bo100b2o7bo2bobo2b
o14b2o5b2o$123bo3bo134b3o3b3o$124b3o4b2o3b2o6$262b2o5b2o5b2o$96b2o5b2o
157b2o5b2o5b2o$94bo2bo5bo2bo$117b3o5b3o156b3o5b3o$99bobo15bo2b2ob2o2bo
6b2o140b3o6b3o3b3o$94b2o3bobo3b2o11b3o3b3o7b2o140b3o4bob4ob4obo$119bo
5bo158b2o2bobo2b2o$98bo3bo182b3o3b3o$286bo5bo$274b2o3b2o$112b2o161b5o$
96b2o5b2o7b2o162b3o$277bo$95bo9bo12b2o5b2o137bo$95bo3bobo3bo12b2o5b2o
136bobo$95bo3bobo3bo6bo149bob2o56b2o5b2o$96bobo3bobo6bobo142b2o3b2ob2o
56b2o5b2o$97bo5bo6bo3bo141b2o4bob2o$111b3o149bobo26b2o29bo5bo$109b2o3b
2o148bo27b2o28b3o3b3o$322bo2bobo2bo$324b2ob2o2$121bobo176bo$116bo4bo2b
o174bobo11b2o$117b2o5b2o173b2obo10b2o7bo7bo$112bo9bo3b2o4b2o165b2ob2o
3b2o14bobobobo$112bo11b2o6b2o165b2obo4b2o14bobobobo$96b2o23bo2bo174bob
o20bob2ob2obo$96b2o23bobo176bo13bo7b2o5b2o$287bo25bobo$286b3o23bo3bo$
285b5o23b3o$91bobo190b2o3b2o20b2o3b2o$90bo2bo$89b2o11bo$81b2o4b2o3bo9b
o$81b2o6b2o5b2o188b3o14bobo$90bo2bo4bo187b3o13bo2bo4bo$91bobo207b2o5b
2o$293b2o4b2o3bo9bo$287b2o4b2o6b2o11bo$287b2o13bo2bo23b2o$99b2o3b2o
197bobo23b2o$101b3o$100bo3bo$101bobo$102bo230bobo$323b2o8bo2bo$322b2o
12b2o$324bo9bo3b2o4b2o$101b2o226b2o5b2o6b2o$101b2o225bo4bo2bo$333bobo
4$321b2o3b2o$323b3o$322bo3bo$323bobo$324bo4$324b2o$324b2o3$90b2o$90b2o
3$159b2o5b2o$159b2o5b2o5$230b2o5b2o$160bo5bo63b2o5b2o109b2o5b2o$89b5o
65b3o3b3o180b2o5b2o$88bob3obo63b2o2bobo2b2o179b2o5b2o$89bo3bo64bo3bobo
3bo179b3o3b3o$90b3o65bob2o3b2obo179bobo3bobo$91bo66b2o7b2o179bo2bobo2b
o$350b2ob2o$25b2o5b2o$25b2o5b2o54b2o$89bo37b2o5b2o203b2o$86b3o38b2o5b
2o203b2o$86bo142b3o5b3o108b2o5b2o$159b3o68b3o3b3o109b2obobob2o$159b3o
66bob4ob4obo107bo2bobo2bo$158bo3bo66b2o2bobo2b2o108b3o3b3o$157bo5bo66b
3o3b3o$41b2o115b2ob2o68bo5bo$41b2o$158b2ob2o$25b3o3b3o123bo5bo$24bo3bo
bo3bo123bo3bo3b2o171b3o$23bo3b2ob2o3bo33b2o88b3o4b2o170bo3bo$23bob2o5b
2obo33b2o56b3o3b3o23b3o167bobo5bo5bo$25bo7bo93b3o3b3o131b2o5b2o53bo3bo
4bo3bo$126bob2o3b2obo130b2o5b2o57bo5b3o$126bob2o3b2obo37bo144b2o8bo4bo
4b3o$127b2o5b2o37bobo54b2o36bo5bo44b2o12bo$128bo5bo37bo3b2o52b2o35b3o
3b3o53bo3bo21b2o$38b2o3b2o127bo3b2o3b2o84bo2bobo2bo53bobo23b2o$31b3o6b
3o8bobo118bo3b2o3b2o86b2ob2o$31bobo5bo3bo6bo2bo4bo114bobo$30bo3bo5bobo
6b2o5b2o71b2ob2o40bo53bo$30bo3bo6bo5b2o3bo8b2o65bo5bo25b3o64bobo6bo
122bobo$49b2o10b2o4b2o3b2o52b2ob2ob5o22bo3bo62bo3b2o3bobo29bo7bo81bo3b
o$25b2o4b3o16bo2bo15b3o54b2ob2ob3ob2o20bo5bo50b2o9bo3b2o3bobo30bobobob
o82bo$25b2o24bobo14bo3bo55bo6b3o20b2obob2o50b2o9bo3b2o4bo31bobobobo67b
obo4b3o4bo4bo8b2o$69bobo62bobo90bobo37bob2ob2obo65bo7b3o5bo12b2o$70bo
63b2o92bo38b2o5b2o65bo6bo3bo4bo3bo$161bo71b2obob2o101bo2bo2bo5bo5bobo$
19bobo138bobo70bo5bo101b3o4bo3bo$14bo4bo2bo44b2o91bobo71bo3bo110b3o$
15b2o5b2o44bo37b2o5b2o25b2o19bo73b3o$10b2o8bo3b2o5bo33b3o38b2o5b2o24bo
bo$10b2o10b2o6bobo32bo72bo6b2o14b2o$19bo2bo6bo3bo104bo2bo2bo2bob2o10b
2o122bo$19bobo8b3o105bo6b2o2b2o134b2o$28b2o3b2o93b3o8bobo142bobo$140b
2o$128bobo$127b5o103b2o$126b2o3b2o102b2o30b2o81b2o$126b2o3b2o134b2o81b
2o3$129bo$106b2o5b2o12b2o133bo$37bobo66bob2ob2obo142bo4b4o$30b2o8bo48b
3o15bobobobo12bo130bo5b4o$30b2o8bo48bo17bobobobo138b2o9bo2bo6bo$37bo2b
o49bo15bo7bo12bo2bo121b2o9b4o5b3o37b2o5b2o$38b3o88b2o131b4o5bo3bo36b2o
5b2o$262bo7bob3obo$271b5o$108b2ob2o$106bo2bobo2bo$106b3o3b3o$61b2o5b2o
37bo5bo$61b2o5b2o242b3o3b3o$113b2o197bo2bobo2bo$113b2o196bo3bobo3bo$
311b4o3b4o$312bo7bo2$120bo151b2o$119b2o151b2o$118b2o4b2o$117b3o4b2o2b
2o$118b2o4b2o2b2o$108bo10b2o198bo$107b3o10bo197b3o$61bo7bo37b3o207bo3b
o$60bobo5bobo246b2ob2o$63bo3bo37b2o3b2o205b2ob2o$45b3o12bo2bo3bo2bo34b
2o3b2o215b3o$45bo15bobo3bobo247b2ob2o7bo$46bo16b2ob2o249b2ob2o6bo$60b
2ob2ob2ob2o37bo203b2o3bo3bo$60b2o2bobo2b2o36bobo202b2o4b3o$31b2o28b3o
3b3o36b2o211bo36b2o$32b2o28bo5bo37b2o247b2o$31bo74b3o248bo$107bobo195b
o42bo$108b2o193b4o36bo3bo19b2o$68b2o232bobob2o20b2o12bo8b2o14bobo$68b
2o227b2o2bo2bob3o19b2o12bo2b2o5bo9b2o4b3o$297b2o3bobob2o35b2o5bobo8bo
2bo4b3o6b2o$303b4o37b3o3b2o10b2o4b3o7b2o$305bo12bo48bobo$49bo2bo23bo
240b3o24b3o3b2o15b2o$14bo24b3o7bo25bobo238b5o22b2o5bobo10bo$13b2o23bo
4bo9bo21b2obo236bobobobo6b2o12bo2b2o5bo2b2o5bobo$12b2o4b2o17bo5bo8b2o
21b2ob2o3b2o230b2o3b2o6b2o12bo8b2o2b2o4bo3bo$2b2o7b3o4b2o18bo8bo27b2ob
o4b2o258bo3bo13b5o$2b2o8b2o4b2o19b2o8b2o24bobo270bo11b2o3b2o$13b2o61bo
241bo42b5o$14bo24b2o8b2o12bo253bobo42b3o$38bo8bo14b3o252bobo43bo$18bo
6b2o10bo5bo8b2o7b5o252bo$17b3o5b2o11bo4bo9bo6b2o3b2o250b2o33bo$16bo3bo
18b3o7bo267b2o31bobo$15bob3obo27bo2bo264b2o23b2o4b2o$16b5o321b2o4b2o$
62b3o283b2o$62b3o285bobo$352bo$28bo$23bo4b4o31b2o$23bo5b4o5b2o23b2o$
29bo2bo5b2o$29b4o$28b4o$28bo!
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Re: Big A gun

Postby Extrementhusiast » August 4th, 2009, 3:19 am

A rather odd synthesis of the Queen Bee Shuttle:

x = 67, y = 82, rule = B3/S23
14$17bobo$8bo9b2o$9b2o7bo$8b2o9$30bo$29bo$29b3o3$53bo$30b2o20bo$30bobo
19b3o$30bo4$28bo8b3o$28b2o7bo$27bobo8bo2$55b3o$55bo$56bo10$12b2o$11bob
o$5b2o6bo4bo$6b2o10b2o$5bo11bobo!


It starts with a blinker being formed, and then two gliders crashing into the glider to produce the actual Queen Bee with two extra beehives (this was actually discovered completely by accident), which are soon deleted. Simultaneously, a block is synthesized in just the right location. By this time, the Queen Bee has produced a beehive, which is also soon deleted, and then another block is synthesized, "trapping" the Queen Bee, producing a trans Queen Bee Shuttle. A cis queen bee shuttle can be easily synthesized based off of this by moving the two rightmost gliders up one space.
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Re: Big A gun

Postby Macbi » August 4th, 2009, 3:53 am

Nathaniel wrote:
HartmutHolzwart wrote:Now this could lead to a gun, couldn't it?


Indeed it could. P690 big A gun (built using the same p690 technology in the P690 60P5H2V0 gun by Jason Summers):

Since that gun has a hole at the back, the stream it produces can be made (at least) 4 times as thick by simply stacking them one behind the other.
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Re: Big A gun

Postby PM 2Ring » August 4th, 2009, 7:50 am

Macbi wrote:Since that gun has a hole at the back, the stream it produces can be made (at least) 4 times as thick by simply stacking them one behind the other.
It's easy to do with 2 or 3 copies, but then things start to get messy. Curiously, the height of this gun is 414 = 6*69. I tried separations of 7*69 & 8*69, no phase shifting.

Edit

I tried again with separation of 7*69=483, and advancing each upper copy by 483 steps, and managed to get 8 copies working, but got collisions on the ninth. There might be enough room to add a ninth, but I think it's not possible to get all 10, at least not this way. Anyway, here's my result, compressed using gz, so Golly can open it directly.
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Re: Big A gun

Postby Awesomeness » August 5th, 2009, 12:07 pm

Man Nathaniel, how do you make guns out of syntheses so fast?
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Re: Big A gun

Postby Nathaniel » August 5th, 2009, 2:45 pm

Awesomeness wrote:Man Nathaniel, how do you make guns out of syntheses so fast?


Meh, it's not hard when all of the components are already organized and displayed for you (in the p690 gun I mentioned). Just place a glider gun in each of the four corners and then continue placing the guns as you move toward the forwardmost gliders. Sometimes you have to think a bit to get a collection of gliders squeezed together as much as you want, but other than that there's nothing to it really (for a relatively small gun and period-unoptimized gun like this anyways).

It would be nice to produce a (much) lower-period big A gun, but I don't have time over the next bit.
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Re: Big A gun

Postby Awesomeness » August 8th, 2009, 11:15 am

I know that, but I can't do it that fast...
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Re: Big A gun

Postby Sokwe » August 21st, 2009, 6:52 pm

Nathaniel wrote:It would be nice to produce a (much) lower-period big A gun


Here's a p144 big A gun. It is relatively bulky but not too bad; the only problem is the salvo from the lower right, which gave me all sorts of trouble while building and still looks terrible. There's probably smaller p144 lightweight spaceship guns out there, but I don't know of them.

Edit: I created a lightweight spaceship gun that can sometimes fit into a smaller area and posted a slightly updated big A gun using this (the advantage is not great).

#C p144 big A gun
#C gun construction by Matthias M.
#C big A tagalong by Hartmut Holzwart
#C big A tagalong synthesis by Jason Summers
#C p144 gun by Bill Gosper with Achim Flammenkamp and Robert Wainwright
x = 492, y = 488, rule = B3/S23
423b2o$423b2o3$424b2o$422bob2o$422bo$422bo$410b3o9bo2bo$409b5o9b2o$
408bo2bo2bo$416b3o11b2o24b2o$412bo5bo11b2o24b2o$411b2o3b3o19b2o$416bo
20bo2bo$412bo25b2o$412bo2bo27bo$413b2o28bo8b2o$442bobo$443bo26bo$423b
2o17bo2bo24b2o$417b2o4b2o19bo27bo$417b2o24bobo21bob4o$402b2o30b2o8bo
21b2obobo$402b2o18b2o20bo22bob2o$422b2obo22b2o$425bo21bo2bo7b2o$425bo
22b2o8b2o$422bo2bo4b2o$423b2o5b2o$417bo39bobo$393b2o21bobo37bo18b2o$
393b2o21bobo32b2o2bo4bo10b2obo2bob2o$411bo5bo33b2obo2bob2o10b2o2bo4bo$
409bobobo41b2o19bo$392bob2o13bo3b2o62bobo$392bobo13bo5b2o$393bo13b2o5b
o$64b2o327b2o13b2o3bo$64b2o316b3o8b2o14bobobo$380b2o11b2o10bo5bo$380b
2o3bo18bobo29bo$63b2o317b2obo18bobo27b2o$63b2obo338bo29b2o$66bo316b3o$
66bo8bo307b3o$63bo2bo8b3o357bo$64b2o8b2o2bo357b2o$74bo3bo356b2o$31b2o
24b2o15bob2o324b2o15b2o$30bo2bo23b2o14bo2bo325b2o15b2o15bo$30bobo16b2o
22bobo317b2o40b3o$31bo16bo2bo21bobo311b2o4b2o40bob2o$34bo14b2o23bo312b
2o47b3o$33b2o337b2o62b2o$32b3o337b2o18b2obo$33b2o10b2o346bobo$34bo8b3o
340bo7bo$42bo4bo16b2o318bobo6b2o$19bo24b3o8bo8b2o4b2o313b2o6b2o$17b2ob
o22b2o10b2o13b2o321b2o$17b2obo34b3o27b2o288bo$18b2o35b2o8b2o18b2o287bo
bo$39b2o14bo7bob2o307bobo$15b2o12b2o7bo2bo16bo4bo311bo$15b2o12b2o8b2o
16bobo3bo$56bo2bo3bo2bo311b3o$57b2o5b2o312bob5o$29bobo39bo306b5obo$12b
2o18bo37bobo21b2o286b3o$8b2obo2bob2o10bo4bo2b2o32bobo21b2o$8bo4bo2b2o
10b2obo2bob2o33bo315bo$12bo19b2o41bo310bobo$9bobo62bobob2o13b2obo289bo
bo$73bo6bo13bobo290bo$74bo6bo13bo$75b2obobo13b2o4b2o$50bo28bo14b2o4b2o
298bo40b2o24b2o$51b2o30bo10b2o7bobo292b2o41b2o24b2o$50b2o30bobo18bo2bo
292b2o12b2o5b2o$82bobo18bo2bo265b2o15b2o22b2o5bo$83bo20b2o266b2o15b2o
27bobo24b2o$55bo362b2o27b4o$53b2o345bo13b2o33bob2o$54b2o342b2o14bobo$
341b2o24b2o30b2o14bo2b2o29bo3bo4b3o$341b2o24b2o80bo2bo4bo2bo$68b2o15b
2o206b2o52bo68bo3bo28b3o4bo3bo11b2o$68b2o15b2o206b2o50b2o69bo4bo49b2ob
o$43b2o49b2o250b2o70bobobo34b2obo10bo2bo$43b2o49b2o4b2o90b2o99bo53bo
71bobobo35b4o7bo2bo$100b2o89bo2bo97bobo55b2o68bo4bo37b2o4b2ob2o$52bo
62b2o74bo100bo2bo54bo70bo3bo57b2o$42bob2o5b3o39bob2o7bobo8b2o74bo101bo
2bo53bo2bo46bobo66b2o12b2o$42bobo5b2obo39bobo7bo2bo84bob2o156b2o4b2o
41b2o20b2o17b2o$43bo6b3o41bo9bo51b2o35b2o98bo2bo30bo28bo2bo41bo39b2o$
43b2o6b2o41b2o9bo50b2o135b2o7b3o2bo17b2obo6b2o22bo108b2o$32b3o8b2o49b
2o103bob2o102bobo16b2o8bobo21b2o108b3o15b2o$30b2o11b2o49b2o96b2o3b5ob
2o96bo5bo17b3o2bo6bo24bo99b2o2bo2bobo10b2o2b2o2b2o$30b2o3bo77bo42b3o
33b2o2b2o5b2o123b2o5b2o25b2o98b2o2b2o2b2o10b2o2bo2bobo$32b2obo76bobo
42b2o37b2o2bo2bo97b2obobo32b2o22b2o101b2o20b3o$112bobo39b2o44bobo98b2o
b2o19b3o11b2o21bo125b2o$33b3o77bo36b2o2b3o44bo101bo63b2o$33b3o114b2o3b
obo192bo16b2o$106bo2bo46b2o181bobo9b2o$106bob2o93b2o117b2o18bo7b2o$
105b2obo94b2o113b2obo2bob2o10bo4bo2b2o$105bo2bo91b2obo89b2o23bo4bo2b2o
10b2obo2bob2o$147b2o52b2o90b2o4b2o21bo19b2o$43b2o56bo43bob2o150b2o18bo
bo$37b2o4b2o55bobo41bo3b2o42b2o100bo19b2o$37b2o61bobo42b3o2bo40bo2bo3b
2o93bobo18b2o$22b2o77bo44b5o43bo3b2o92bo2bo$22b2o18b2obo40bo56b2o4bo
44bo18b2o76bo2bo69bo$43bobo41b2o53b2obo45b2obo18b2o147b2o$36bo7bo41b2o
21b3o31bobo10b2o33b2o98bo2bo68b2o73bo$34bobo6b2o63bo3bo33bo9b2o135b2o
132bo10bobo$35b2o6b2o22b2o5b2o32bo3bo2bo184bo125b3o9b2o$43b2o23bo5b2o
22b2o9b3o2bobo18b2o55b2o5bo99bobo123b3obo$25bo42bobo15bo11b2o13bo2bo
18b2o18b3o34b2o4b3o98bobo62bo61bo3bo$24bobo42b2o16b2o25b2o39b2o41b4o
98bo61b2o63bo3bo$24bobo46b2o11b2o70b2o41b2o100b2o58b2o63bob3o$25bo46bo
bo82b3o41b2o99bo2bo2b2o119b3o$69b2o2bo68bo4b3o6bobo43b3o97bo2bobo2bo
119bo4bo$28b3o110bobo2bo3bo5b2o47b2o95bo2bobo2bo124b2o$28bob5o33bo3bo
67b3o3b2o3bo151b2o2bo2bo123bobo$28b5obo32bo4bo66b2o5bob3o157b2o$32b3o
31bobobo68bobo7bo162bo126bo$65bobobo70bo5bo164bobo124bobo$37bo25bo4bo
15bobo117b2o105bobo50bobo70bo3bo$36bobo24bo3bo17b2o119b3o103bo51b2o72b
o3bo$36bobo46bo122b2o155bo73bo3bo$37bo4b2o21b2o141b2o72bobo155bo3bo$
43bo165b4o69b2o110b2o2bo16b4o22bobo$43bobo25b2o137b3o47bo22bo106b2o2b
2o3bo10b2o7bo22bo$44b2o25b2o69bo5bo62bo178b2o7bo10b2o2b2o3bo$139bo7bob
o108bob3o34b2o15b2o79b4o15b2o2bo$138b3obo5b2o110b2obo33b2o15b2o$22b2o
15b2o25bo70bo3b2o3b3o87b2o15b2o5bob2o175b2o$22b2o15b2o25bo71bo3bo2bobo
30bo17b2o15b2o21b2o15b2o6b3obo173b2o$139b3o4bo29b2o18b2o15b2o109bo2bo
27bo55b2o8b2o$57bo119b2o11b2o56b3o12bo64bo24b2o56b2o7bo2bo$56bobo189bo
bo73bo3bo25b2o65b2o$56bobo130bo3bo53b2o3bo72b4o73b3o21bo$57bo77b2o15b
2o34bo4bo56bo148b3o3bo19bobo$135b2o15b2o33bobobo47b2o3bobo6bo143b3o3b
2o19bo3bo$61bobo122bobobo5b2o15b2o23bo2bob7o95b2o51bo2b2o22bo2bo$59b2o
bo2bo118bo4bo6b2o15b2o24b10o3bo17b2o73bobo50bo2bo$61bo2bob2o108b2o6bo
3bo51b3o8bo18b2obo71bo53b2o24bo2bo$63bobo56bo52b4o81b3o11bo53bo96bo3bo
$39b2o82b2o49b2ob2o7b2o74bo8bo54b2o98bobo$38bobo28bo52b2o51b2o84bo10bo
b2o51b2o98bo$40bo27bobo203b2o100b2o16bo7b2o27b2o$26b2o40bobo140bo164b
2o15bobo6b2o26bo2bo$4b2o20b3o40bo109bo30bobo180bo2bo34b2o$2o2b2o2b2o
10b2o2bo2bobo92bo87bobo26bo8b3o77bo67bo16b2o24b2o$2o2bo2bobo10b2o2b2o
2b2o30bo62b2o52b3obo29bo26bo3b10o74b2o64bo3bo16b2o24b2o$6b3o15b2o34bo
61b2o52bob2o24b3ob3o30b7obo2bo74b2o63bo2bo$6b2o67b2o15b2o82b2obo30bo
26bo6bobo3b2o141b2o$49b2o24b2o15b2o80bob3o21b2o38bo16b2o$49b2o3b2o15b
2o56bobo77b2o27bo3b2o13b2o$7b2o10bo11b2o13bo7b2o15b2o57b2o44bo23bo39bo
bo143b3o2b3o20bo$7b2o8bobo10bo2bo12b2o82bo69b3ob3o33b3o170bobo$17b3o
11b2o166bo57b3o149bob3o3b2o$47bo42bo107bobo35b2o20b2o125b2o22bo2bobo2b
2o$12b2o5b2o21bo3b2o41b3o28bobo75bobo35b2o17b2o71bobo53bo2bo21b2o5b3o$
12bobo3bo2bo18b2ob2ob2o40b5o28b2o76bo45bo9b3o70b2o53bo3bo28bo$14b2o3bo
13bo7bob3o41b2o2bobo27bo70b2o49bo3bo8bobo70bo41bo11bo20b2o11bo$15bobo
3bo9b2obo4bob2o44bo4bo99b2o49bo3bo9b2o111b3o10bo2bo17b2o10b2o$15bo3bob
o6b3obo7bo42b3o2bo154bobobo3bo118bob2o2b2o6bobo7bo21bo$19bobo4b2ob2ob
2o217b2o118b3o2b2o7bo8bobo$26b2o3bo159b2o52b2o6bo117b2o21b2o23b2o$26bo
164b2obo18b2o30b2o3bobo148b2o15b3o$41b2o151bo18b2o30b2o3bo57bo88b2o2b
2o2b2o10bobo2bo2b2o$26b2o12bo2bo36bo2b3o108bo3b2o108bobo86bobo2bo2b2o
10b2o2b2o2b2o$27bo13b2o33bo4bo11bo48bo48bo2bo3b2o46bobo59b2o88b3o20b2o
$23b2o24b2o24bobo2b2o11b2o45b2o50b2o53b2o70bo79b2o$23b2o24b2o25b5o11bo
bo46b2o174b2o$77b3o238b2o$78bo17b2o29b2o73b2o53b2o$96bo2bo27b2o73bobo
46b2o4b2o$251b2o$96bo2bo104b3o174b2o$95bo2bo27bob2o75bo50b3o122bobo$
75b2o18bobo28bobo70bo5bo50b2o123bo$75b2o19bo30bo30bo40b2o2b2o54b2o31bo
$90b2o29b2o4b2o30b2o37b2o3b2obo51b3o29b2o$90b2o4b2o23b2o4b2o29b2o32b2o
8bo3b2o49bobo31b2o$96b2o29b2o63b2o9b2ob2o49b2o2$87bo$87b2o28b2o39bo34b
2o97bo69bo$86bobo29bo40b2o30bob2o95b2o$86bo28bobo40b2o31bo99b2o67bob3o
$87bo26bo21bo54bo170b2obo$85bo28bo2bo4bo12b3o53bo2bo167bob2o$84bo31bo
4bo12b2obo27bobo24b2o169b3obo61b2o$88bo25bo6bobo10b3o29b2o239b2o20b3o$
86bob2ob2o21bob2o3b2o12b2o29bo198bo37b2o2b2o2b2o10b2o2bo2bobo$86bo3b3o
3b2o15b2ob2o9b2o274b2o2bo2bobo10b2o2b2o2b2o$86bob2o4bo2bo15bo3bo9b2o
280b3o15b2o$87bo68bobo133bobo78b2o34b2o$94bo2bo8b2o49b2o133b2o88b2o38b
obo$95bo2bo7b2o18b2obo27bo135bo77bo3bo6b2o38bobo$96bobo20bo7bobo241bo
4bo25bobo5b2o$97bo22b2o6bo244bobobo23bo2bo5b2o12b2o$117b2ob2o5b2o245bo
bobo25bo9b2o5bo$96b2o19b2ob2o5b2o246bo4bo18bo3bo10b2o4bob4o$96b2o18bo
2bo7b2o197b4o16bo2b2o25bo3bo18bo2bo11bo6b2o2bo$109bo7b3o152bo52bo7b2o
10bo3b2o2b2o43b2o15bobo4bo2bo$108bobo8b2o151bobo50bo3b2o2b2o10bo7b2o
22b2o19b2o15bobo4bobo$108b2o5b2obo153b2o52bo2b2o15b4o42b2o4b2o$110bo4b
2o50bo115bo108b2o$115b2o51b2o111b2o91b2o16b2o$167b2o113b2o90b2o13bo2bo
$332b2o12b2o18b2o20bo3bo$332b2o9bo3bo17bo2bo18bo$366b2o19bo2bo$114b2o
219bo7bo4bo38bobo$114b2o4bo214bobo11bo32b2o24b2o$112bob2o5b2o212b3o7bo
2bo2b2o9bo19b2o24b2o$110b2o8bobo71bo61bo88bo5b2o7b5o$111b3o7bo4b2o67b
2o57b2o103bo4bo$111bo2bo12bo66b2o59b2o102b5o7bo$109b2ob2o13bobo25b2o
204bo8bob2o$109b2ob2o14b2o25b2o215b2o$109b2o40bo219b3o$111bo38bobo41bo
61bo99b2o$106b2o15b2o27b2o41b2o57b2o99bo2bo16bo$106b2o15b2o24b2o2bo40b
2o59b2o99b2o16bobo$149bo198b2o23bo2bo$141b2o2b2obob2o196b2o24b2o$140bo
10bo49bobo$141bo9bo50b2o$141bo4b4o52bo$143bo2$192bobo61bobo$193b2o61b
2o$193bo63bo$151bo$145b4o4bo$143bo9bo$110b2o31bo10bo$88b2o20b3o30b2obo
b2o2b2o$84b2o2b2o2b2o10b2o2bo2bobo31bo90bo$84b2o2bo2bobo10b2o2b2o2b2o
3b2o22bo2b2o90bobo$90b3o15b2o6bobo22b2o70bo22b2o$90b2o26bo23bobo58bo9b
2o32bo$133b2o8bo60b2o6bobo30b2o$133b2o3b2o15b2o46b2o20b3o18b2o$91b2o
12b2o31b2o15b2o68bo$91b2o12b2o22bo96bo14b2o$128bobo110bobo$102bo22bob
3o89bo21bo$89b2o10bob2o20b3o91b2o$101bobo23bo90bobo$102bo20bob2o$116b
3o4b3o$115b2obo$114bo$114b3o$112b3obo$111bobo$112bo107bo$220b2o$107b2o
24b2o84bobo$107b2o24b2o12$119b2o7bo16b2o$119b2o5bo2bo15b2o$125bo$125bo
$125bo51bo$126bo50b2o$127b3o46bobo$129bo131b3o$261bo$129b3o2b3o125bo
14b2o$105bo94b3o45b3o26bobo$104b2o4b4o22bo46bo18bo45bo28bo$103bo3bo6bo
21b3o44b2o16bo47bo$103b2ob2o4b3o24bo42bobo$104bob2o32bo$104bo12b2o21bo
$104bo12b2o21bo58b2o49b2o$105b2o21bo7bo2bo5b2o53b2o47b2o$105bo23bo7bo
7b2o52bo51bo$127b3o$101bo18b2o$96b3ob2o2b2o10b4o4b2o58bo$96b4o4b2o10b
3ob2o2b2o58b2o$100b2o19bo61bobo3$117b2o$117b2o3$117b3o$118b2o111b2o24b
2o$115b2o114b2o23bo2bo$107bo7b3o121b2o18bo$105bo10bobo119bo2bo13bo$
104bo3bo8b2o120b2o14bo$104bobob2o143bo$105b2ob2o13b2o128bo4bo$105b2o2b
o133bobo7bo4bo$106b2ob2o10bo3bo116bo2bo9b2o$107bobo11bo4bo14bo101bo2bo
$108bo14bobobo13b2o91bo9bo2bo$124bobobo11bobo91bo9bobo$125bo4bo166b3o$
126bo3bo166bo$249b2o47bo14b2o$117b2o8b2o2bo32b3o81bo2bo32b3o26bobo$
111b2o4b2o11bobo14bo18bo82b2o33bo28bo$111b2o18b2o14b2o16bo91b2o26bo$
96b2o29b2o17bobo80bo2bo24b2o$96b2o18b3o7bobo99bo$116b2o8bo5b2o94bo3bo
2b3o132b2o$119b2o4b2o5b2o29b2o63b4o5bo48b2o82b2o$118b3o43b2o68bo2bo18b
2o15b2o10b2o$117bobo43bo70bobo19b2o15b2o12bo$117b2o115b2o133b3o$111bo
157bo99b2o$110bobo35bo63bobo53b3o101b2o$110bobo35b2o14b2o15b2o7b2o19bo
19b2o30bo4bo2bo99b3o9bo$111bo35bobo14b2o15b2o3b2obo2bob2o10b2o2bo4bo
16bo31bobo3b3o97bobo8bo3bo$107bo78b2o2bo4bo10b2obo2bob2o13b3o27b2o10b
2o97b2o9bo3bo$103bo3b2o82bo18b2o17bo29bo4b3o4b2o104bo3bobobo$102b2o3b
3o82bobo64b2ob2o3b5o104b2o$101b3o3b2o126b2o24bo7b2o104bo6b2o$102b2o3bo
127bobo138bobo3b2o$103bo63bo39b2o8b2o159bo3b2o$99bo66bobo26bo11b2o7bo
2bo$98bobo64b2ob2o23b5o19b2o13bo147bobo$98bobo65bo2bo3bo19b2o2b2o33bo
147b2o$99bo68bo4bo20b2o2bo31b3o$128bo40bo3bo21bo2bo23bo9bo2bo24b2o7bo$
129bo65b3o22b2ob2o34b5o3b2ob2o98b2o$127b3o91b4o33b2o4b3o4bo98b2o4b2o$
173bo3bo43b2ob2o32b2o10b2o104b2o$173bo4bo31bo2bo9bo28b2o4b3o3bobo124b
2o$96b2o15b2o58bo3bo2bo32b3o36b2o5bo2bo4bo102b3o18b2o$96b2o15b2o49b2o
11b2ob2o31bo46b3o108b2o$164bobo11bobo32bo13b2o32bo106b2o$164bo14bo46bo
2bo21b2o115b3o$160b2o65b2o22b2obo18b2o58b3o33bobo$160b2o46bobo24b2o17b
o18b2o58bo36b2o$160b2o47b2o24b2o17bo79bo14b2o26bo$132b2o26bo90bo2bo9b
3o53b3o26bobo24bobo$111bo20b2o2b2o21bobo90b2o9b5o52bo28bo26bobo$91bo
19b2o23bobo20bob2o18b2o79bo2bo2bo52bo55bo4bobo$90bobo17bobo24bo43b2o
75b3o119b2o$89bo3bo47bo24b2o90bo5bo114bob2ob3o$90bo3bo39b2o4bobo17b2o
4b2o90b3o3b2o113bo5b3o$91bo3bo39bo3bo3bo16b2o98bo61b2o55b3o5bo$92bo3bo
35b3o5bo3bo119bo7b2o24b2o21b2o57b3ob2obo$93bobo36bo8bo3bo115bo2bo7b2o
24b2o23bo61b2o$94bo47bo3bo23b2o90b2o118bobo4bo$98bo44bobo24bobo215bobo
$97bobo12bo31bo25bo120b4o93bobo$98b2o12b2o24b2o112b2o26b2o9b2obo94bo$
94b2o15bobo8b2o13bo2bo30b2o79b2o4b2o21bo7bo2b2o121b2o$93bobo26b2o9b3o
2bobo26bo3bo2bo83b2o18b2obo6bo126b2o$93bo5b2o31bo3bo2bo26bo2bob3o103bo
bo9bo68bo$92b2o5b2o31bo3bo29b3obo82b2o26bo8bo66bo$133b3o24b2o5bob3o79b
ob2o27bo9bobo62b3o54b2o$160b2o11bo77bo31bo6bob2o80b2o15b2o21b2obo$160b
2o89bo26b2o2bo7bo83b2o15b2o24bo$125bo35bo89bo2bo22bob2o9b2o125bo3b2o$
124bobo33bobo89b2o23b4o133bo2bo3b2o$124bobo32b2obo252b2o$125bo$65b4o
16bo2b2o182b2o$64bo7b2o10bo3b2o2b2o35bo2bo27b2o110b2o46bo2bo$64bo3b2o
2b2o10bo7b2o35b2obo27b2o162bo100bo$65bo2b2o15b4o41bob2o186bo3bo99b4o$
130bo2bo187b4o98bo3bo$113b2o141b2o15b2o147bo3b2o$113b2o22bo118b2o15b2o
148b3o$74bo10b2o8b2o39bobo284bo5bo$74b3o8b2o7bo2bo38bobo285bobob2o$75b
o19b2ob2obo35bo203bobo25b3o43b2o10bobo$98bo2bo16b2o178b2o19b2o19bo28bo
45b2o8b2o$73bo6b2o16bo19b2o178bo16b2obo2bob2o10b2o2bo4bo25bo14b2o$72bo
b2o5bo36b2o9bo141bo27b3o13b2o2bo4bo10b2obo2bob2o40bobo48b2o$72bob2o2bo
bo17bo4bo14bo9bo140b2ob2o27bo18bo18b2o44bo30b2o18b2o$76b3o19bo4bo13bob
o7bo2bo138b2ob2o47bobo90bob2o$72b3o3bo19bo4bo13bob2o7bobo8b2o128bo2b2o
20b2o118bo$72b2o65b2o123b3o2b2o23b2o118bo$103bo20b2o210b2o76bo2bo5b2o
5bo11b2o$100bo2bo14b2o4b2o188b2o20b2o20b2o55b2o5bo2b2o2bobo10b2o$100bo
b2ob2o11b2o193bo2bo9bob2o27b2o63b2ob2o2bo2bo$104bo2bo194b2o8bo3bo7bo3b
2o29bo62b2o8bo9bo$105b2o153b2o2b3o34bob2o8b3o8bo5bo96bo5bo7bobo$87b2o
24b2o142b2o2bo38b2o8b2o12bo3b2o94bo6b2o8bo2bo$87b2o24b2o142b2ob2o11b2o
26bo9bo13bo3bo95bobo14bo2bo$257b2ob2o12b2o52bo119b2o$259bo13bo30bo9bo
9b3o115bo2bo2b2o$277b2o25b2o8b2o126b2o$128b2o146bo2bo20b3o8b2obo$127bo
2bo148bo19bo3bo8b2o115bobo$127bo2bo148bo19bo2bo121b2o6bo$118b2o7bobo
146b2obo20b2o34b2o24b2o59bo5bo$118b2o4b2o130b2o18b2o58b2o24b2o60bo8b2o
$118b2o4b2o130b2o36b2o24b2o32b2o68bo2bo2b2ob2o17bo$119bo151b2o21b2o24b
2o31bo2bo68bobo2b2o2bo16b3o$118bobo150b2o4b2o70bob2ob2o70bo5b2o$117b2o
bo156b2o70bo2bo98b3o$352bo98bobob2o$442b2o8b2obo$118b2o147b2o78bo4bo
66b2o15b2o4b2o9b2o$118b2o148b2o77bo4bo66b2o15b2o$267bo79bo4bo90bo19b2o
$267bo174bobo18b2o$266b2o79bo93bo2bo$347bo2bo45bo43bo2bo$265b3obo2bo
71b2ob2obo43b2o$272bo70bo2bo48b2o8b3o32bo2bo15b2o$267b3ob2o4b2o65b2o
59bo36b2o10b3o2b2o$268bo7bo2bo56b2o68bo14b2o30bo3b2o$276bo59b2o35b2o
46bobo28bo5bo$276bo95b4o45bo29bo3bob2o$276bob2o92b2ob2o75bo5bo$278b2o
41b2o51b2o81bo$320bo2bo13b2o102bobo10bo2bo$320bobo2b3o9b2o102b2o$277b
2o42bo2bo3bo113bo$277b2o45bo3bo124bo2bo$325b3o77b2o46bo$362b2o19b2o20b
3o44bo5bo$362bo16b2o2b2o2b2o10b2o2bo2bobo43b2obo3bo$335bo27b3o13b2o2bo
2bobo10b2o2b2o2b2o43bo5bo$334bobo28bo19b3o15b2o47b2o3bo$334bobo48b2o
63b2o2b3o$335bo22b2o90b2o$358b2o$328bo2bo44b2o8b2o10bo$328bob2o42b2o2b
o7b2o8bobo$327b2obo41b3ob2o18b3o47b2o15b2o$327bo2bo41bobo71b2o15b2o$
391b2o5b2o$323bo67bobo3bo2bo30b2o$322bobo68b2o3bo28b2o2b2o$322bobo43b
3o2b3o18bobo3bo25bobo$323bo70bo3bobo26bo$341b2o55bobo22bo$341b2o79b3o
4b2o27b2o$331bo9b2o26bobo49bob3o3bo27b3o20b2o$332bo9bo23b2ob3o48bo3bo
5b3o23bobo2bo2b2o10b2o2b2o2b2o$330bo2bo7bobo21bo2b2o49bo3bo8bo23b2o2b
2o2b2o10bobo2bo2b2o$320b2o8bobo7b2obo22b2o50b3obo37b2o15b3o$320b2o36b
2o24b2o33b3o56b2o$335b2o21b2o24b2o34bo14b2o$335b2o4b2o92b2o$341b2o100b
2o18b2o$442bo2bo11b2o4b2o$443b2o12bobo12bo$448bo8bo13b5o$447b3o20bo3b
3o$446b5o20b2o5bo$472b4o$473b2o2bo$331b2o142b2o$330bo2bo113b5o$330bo2b
o114b3o$331bobo7b2o106bo$335b2o4b2o110b2o$335b2o4b2o109bo2bo$341bo111b
2o$340bobo92b2o24b2o$340bob2o91b2o24b2o3$341b2o$341b2o!


Edit: What's the lowest period gun that can be made for this spaceship with the current technology?
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Re: Big A gun

Postby Nathaniel » August 28th, 2009, 12:28 am

Sokwe wrote:Edit: What's the lowest period gun that can be made for this spaceship with the current technology?


p136 and lower is impossible since the glider syntheses then collide with each other, which leads me to believe that your p144 gun is almost certainly the best that can be done with current technology. Well done!
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Re: Big A gun -> other small c/2 space ships

Postby HartmutHolzwart » September 18th, 2009, 4:10 pm

it should be possible to find glider constructions and then guns for other small *WSS tagalongs, starting with this one:

x = 13, y = 20, rule = B3/S23
4bo$2bo3bo$bo$bo4bo$b5o2$6b2o$6b2o2$7b2o$5bo4bo$4bo$4bo5bo$4b6o!

Then we could move on subsequently to more complex cases

x = 17, y = 21, rule = B3/S23
4$3b4o5bo2bo$3bo3bo3bo$3bo7bo3bo$4bo2bo3b4o2$8b2o$8bobo$5bo$4bo$4bo3bo
$4b4o!

and

x = 22, y = 23, rule = B3/S23
$5bo2bo$4bo$4bo3bo$4b4o2$9b2o$9b2o$4bo2bo$3bo$3bo3bo2b5o$3b4o3bo4bo$
10bo$11bo3bo$13bo!

could be quick wins

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Re: Big A gun

Postby HartmutHolzwart » September 22nd, 2009, 2:16 pm

... quick wins at least not for me... My best effort so far:

x = 29, y = 29, rule = B3/S23
7$16bobo$16b2o$5bo11bo$6b2o$5b2o5b2o$11bobo$11b2o3$12b2o$12b2o4$15b6o$
15bo5bo$15bo$16bo4bo$18b2o!

which evolves into

x = 18, y = 25, rule = B3/S23
4$4b2obo$3b2obobo$4b4o$5b4o$8b2o$8b2o$8bobo3$6b2o$5b2ob4o$6b6o$7b4o!

instead of

x = 24, y = 35, rule = B3/S23
13$10b2o$9b2ob3o$10b5o$11b5o$15b2o$15b2o$15bobo3$13b2o$12b2ob4o$13b6o$
14b4o!

Can somebody improve on that.
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Re: Big A gun

Postby Sokwe » September 22nd, 2009, 11:49 pm

Win.

x = 127, y = 110, rule = B3/S23
30$35bo$36bo$34b3o$70bo$69bo$66bo2b3o$64b2o$65b2o$72bobo$72b2o12bo$73b
o10b2o$85b2o11$68b2o$67bobo$69bo3b2o$72bobo$74bo17$33bo$33b2o41b2o$32b
obo41bobo$76bo!

Edit:
This one was easy, and can surely be optimized:

x = 78, y = 45, rule = B3/S23
3$44bo$42b2o$43b2o$13bo$11bobo$12b2o3$34bo$34bobo$34b2o$25bo$23bobo$
24b2o12bo$37bo$37b3o2$25bo$23b2o$24b2o3$53bo$54bo3bobo$34b3o15b3o3b2o$
34bo24bo$35bo26bo$61b2o$21b3o37bobo$21bo$22bo4$10bo5bo$10b2o4b2o$9bobo
3bobo!

Also, What are the smallest c/2 spaceships without known syntheses? I know Mark Niemiec's page has many syntheses for small c/2 spaceships, but it is not up-to-date.
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Re: Big A gun

Postby Extrementhusiast » September 23rd, 2009, 12:07 pm

Kills the A, but not the LWSSs.
x = 48, y = 47, rule = B3/S23
11$17bo$17bo$17bo6$10b3o9b3o$10bo2bo7bo2bo$10bo13bo$10bo13bo$11bobo2b
3o2bobo$15bo3bo$15bo3bo$15b5o$15bo3bo!


Another way to do the same thing:
x = 24, y = 27, rule = B3/S23
4$14bo$14bo$14bo$7b3o9b3o$7bo2bo7bo2bo$7bo13bo$7bo13bo$8bobo2b3o2bobo$
12bo3bo$12bo3bo$12b5o$12bo3bo!


It has a large and messy spark.
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Re: Big A gun

Postby HartmutHolzwart » September 23rd, 2009, 3:59 pm

Up to my knowledge, there were no new syntheses for small c/2 after the big A!

The x66 half or the u pushalong would be very nice!
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Re: Big A gun

Postby Extrementhusiast » September 23rd, 2009, 6:30 pm

What's this "u pushalong" that you are talking about? Is it the standard MWSS pushalong, or is it something else?
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Re: Big A gun

Postby Sokwe » September 23rd, 2009, 7:18 pm

HartmutHolzwart wrote:Up to my knowledge, there were no new syntheses for small c/2 after the big A!


I would assume then that, with my synthesis above, all known c/2 spaceships up to 29 bits can be synthesized. The smallest ones I know of that have not been synthesized are the HWSS on x66 half, some skewed thing, and the second spaceship you posted above.

#C Some skewed thing
x = 20, y = 18, rule = B3/S23
4$3b3o$2bo2bo6b3o$2bo4bo4bo2bo$5bobo2bo4bo$2b2o4bobobo$7bobo4b2o$5bo4b
o$6bo5bo$11bo!
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Re: Big A gun

Postby HartmutHolzwart » September 24th, 2009, 3:39 pm

This is a selection of small c/2 space ships

x = 459, y = 174, rule = B3/S23
17$409bo2bo$274bo2bo130bo$190b4o79bo134bo3bo$190bo3bo78bo3bo12b4o3b2o
92b4o13b4o$190bo82b4o12b2o3b2o74b4o17bo3bo31b5o$191bo2bo93b2o5bobo72bo
3bo16bo20b2o2bo10bo4bo$141b2obo50b2o54bo3bo2bobobo15bo10bobobobo53bo3b
o3bobobo8bo21bo2bo15bo15bo$140bo3bo23bobobo3bobobo8bo8bo79b2o10b2obo
77bo2bo2bo18bo14bo2bo3bo9bo3bo$107bo12b4o5bo2bo7bo47bo62bo3bo2bo3bo13b
2o15b2o54bo3bo3bo17b4o13bo5bo12b3obo2bo11bo$85bobobo3bobobo7b2o13bo3bo
3bo11b2obo2bo25bo3bo11bo9bo76b2o15b3ob2o71bo8bo12bo23bo$38bobobo62bo2b
3o2bo6bo7bo3bo14bo40b10o53bobobo2bo3bo11b2obo19bo51bobobo3bobobo6bo9bo
12bo6bo17b2o11b3o$89bo3bo3bo7bo4b3o8bo2bo3b4o10b2obo22bobobo3bobobo94b
o92bo22b7o30bo$38bo3bo63b3o2b2o31bo110bo2bo3bo13bo2bo7b5o61bo7bo6b9o
36bo5bo7b2o$52bo2bo29bobobo3bo3bo27b2o16bo28bo7bo96bobo7bo4bo83b2ob2o
31bo13b2ob3o$38bobobo8bo56b2o15bobo13b2obo45b4o61bo2bobobo11b3o10bo65b
o3bobobo14bo19bo15bo6bo7bo6bo$51bo3bo33bo3bo3bo8bo4bo10bo23bo21bobobo
3bobobo9bo3bo78bobo12bo3bo83bob2o15b2o2b4o9b7o9b4o$42bo8b4o50bo15bo17b
2obo2bo44bo82bo4bobo9bo79b4o22bo3bo29bo2b2o$85bobobo3bobobo7bo5bo9bo3b
o13bo51bo2bo78b3obo92bo3bo15b2o5bo2bo31bo$38bobobo62b6o10b4o14bo3bo
134bo2bo88bo18b2ob2o33bo4b2o$140b2obo135b2o90bo2bo15b4o18b4o10bo5b2o$
391b2o19bo3bo9bo3b2o$412bo13b4o$413bo2bo4$35bo5bo271bo$297b5o9bo3bo$
35bo5bo12bo242bo4bo7bo102bo2bo$52bo3bo77b4o12b4o143bo12bo4bo96bo$35bo
5bo9bo82bo3bo11bo3bo35b4o104bo3bo7b5o59bo2bo34bo3bo$51bo4bo77bo15bo39b
o3bo106bo71bo38b4o$35bo5bo9b5o51b2obo7b4o2b2o9bo2bo12bo2bo35bo63bo3bo
4bo19bo5bo57bo3bo3bobobo13bo3bo$86bobobo4bo8b3o3bo7bo3b2o15bo28bobobo
3bobobo10bo2bo88bo13bob2obo10bo59b4o21bo2bo$35bo5bo62bo13bo5bo2bo7bo5b
o7bo6bo38bo58bo3bo4bo14b3o2bo5bo6b2o2bo10b3o33bo3bo3bo40b3o2bo2b2o$90b
o4bo8bo6bo7bo7bo6bo13bo23bo3bo14bo5bo80b3o3b5o6b2obo2bo8b2obo65bo15bo
5bo10b7o$105b3o3bo9bo2bo3bo5bo6bo6bo7bo33bo63bobobo4bo10b2o3b2o15bo12b
2o2b2ob2o29bobobo3bobobo23b2o9b2ob3o2bo9bo6bo$86bobobo4bo12b2o13b2o2bo
6b7o7b8o12bobobo3bobobo9bo6bo75b2ob2o19bobo10bo3bo62b2o3b3o10b2o5bo9bo
$122bo67b7o61bo4bo10b6o18bo12bobo37bo3bo3bo16bobo17bo8bo7bo5bo$90bo4bo
24bo4bo46bo3bo3bo94b3o3bo17bo13bo61b2o2b2o2b2o12b2o3b4o$110b2o7bo138bo
4bo13bo19b2obo50bo3bobobo16b2o4b2obo12b5ob2o10b2o$86bobobo4bo13b2ob3o
4bo4bo9b4o12b4o14bobobo3bobobo9bo2bo83bo3bo20bo74bob2ob2o31bo2bo$110b
5o4b5o10bo3bo11bo3bo34bo3bob2o80b4o14b2obo2bo8b2o66b2o13b2o19b2ob3o$
111b3o20bo15bo38bo3bo101bo13b2ob2o78b2ob2o18b2o3bo$32bo5bobobo92bo2bo
12bo2bo34b2obo2bo99bo3bo10b4o60bo2bo15b4o19bo$296b2obo11b2o60bo20b2o
21b3o$32bo9bo148b2o180bo3bo$54b2o317b4o$32bo5bobobo9bo4bo358b4o$51bo
364bo3bo$32bo9bo8bo5bo358bo$51b6o360bo2bo$32bo5bobobo$297b6o13b2o$276b
4o5bo2bo8bo5bo11b2ob4o$194b2obo78bo3bo3bo12bo18b6o$121b4o44bobobo3bobo
bo11bo3bo78bo7bo3bo9bo4bo13b4o$109b2o10bo3bo67bo58bo3bo3bobobo12bo2bo
3b4o12b2o$86bobobo3bobobo8bo4bo8bo51bo7bo11b2obo102b3o91bo$106bo15bo2b
o75bo50bo3bo7bo16b2o15b5o14b2o72bo37b2o$90bo7bo7bo5bo56bobobo7bo13b2ob
o2b2o78b2o14b2ob4o9b2ob2o55bo2bo13bo6bo29bo4bo$106b6o14b4o67b2ob2obo
48bobobo3bobobo16b2o15b2o12bo4b2o53bo17bo6bo10b2ob6o9bo$86bobobo3bobob
o26bo2bo44bo7bo12bo3bob2obo108bo59bo3bo13b6obo9b4o6bo8bo5bo$111bobo11b
o2bo63bo3bo3b2o54bo3bo16bo2bo3b4o24b2ob2o55b4o30b2o18b6o$30bobobo3bo3b
o47bo3bo15bo2bo11bo2bo40bobobo7bo9bo84bo7bo3bo26bo32bo3bo3bobobo19bobo
12b2o10bo9bo$51bo16b3o40bo14b4o61bo4bo59bo3bobobo11bo3bo3bo12b6o7bo3bo
64bo3bo10bo13b3obo$34bo3bo3bo7bo5bo10b5o14bobobo3bobobo10b2o2bo77b5o
80b4o5bo2bo8bo5bo5bo38bo3bo7bo17bobo16bo12bo$50bo5bo9b2ob3o35bo5bo8bo
2bo171bo11bo3bo61b3o6bo7b2o16bo18b2o$30bobobo3bobobo7b5obo10b2o37bo14b
o176bo4bo5b4o35bobobo7bo13bo7bobo6bo19bo13b6o$106bo5bo8bo3bo174b2o72bo
6b2o8bo2bo15bo13bo4bo$30bo11bo11b2o8bo41b6o9b4o227bo7bo13b2ob2o3b2o7b
2o17bo13bo$52bo4bo5bo319bo9b2o13b3obo11b2obo$30bobobo7bo8bo11bo4bo283b
o7bo15bo3bo26bo9bo8b2o$51bo5bo5b5o144bo165bob2o13b3o8b2o19b2o$51b6o
153bo3bo158bo2bo4bo11bob3o9b4o6bo8bobo$194b4o11bo162bo18bo4bo11b2ob6o
10b2o$194bo3bo10bo4bo157bo3bo13bo5bobo26bob2obo$108b4o58bobobo3bobobo
11bo14b5o13b4o2b2o74bo62b4o14bo4b2obo25b2o$108bo3bo82bo2bo28bo3b2o74bo
3bo78b5o28b2o$108bo15bo2bo46bo3bo3bo16bo27bo5bo2bo69bo117bo2bo$87bobob
o3bobobo9bo2bo10bo69bo7bo26bo7bo2b2o35b2o12b6o10bo4bo18b2o93bobo$113bo
9bo3bo42bobobo3bobobo9bo17b2o18bo2bo5b2o34b4o11bo5bo9b5o17bo4bo$53bo
37bo7bo7bo7bo7b4o65bo8bo7b2ob3o3bo13b2o2b3o2bo32b2ob2o11bo36bo$51bo3bo
50bo67bo3bo3bo9b9o9b4o3bobo11bo7bo35b2o14bo4bo14b2o14bo5bo$50bo36bobob
o3bobobo6bo8bo12b2o65bo15b2o16bo4bo58bo2bo13b3o14b6o$30bobobo3bobobo7b
o4bo9b6o35b9o13b2o40bobobo3bobobo7bo4b2o31bo52b2o12b2o14bo$50b5o10bo5b
2o18bo7bo23bo2bo62bo5b2o17bo13bo4bo17bo3bo4bobobo8bo10bo9bo2bo$34bo3bo
3bo22bo5bob2o47bo66bo3bobo16bo3bo11b5o39bo20b2o18bobo$55b2o9bo3bo16bob
obo3bobobo22bo3bo2b5o55b4o18bo39bo3bo8bo7bo11bo7b3o18b2o16b2o$30bobobo
3bobobo12b2o11bo39b4o10b4o3bo4bo76bo4bo55b12o9bob2o15bo15bo2bo$67b2o
39bo3bo16bo81b5o35bobobo4bobobo29bo3bo14b2o12bo3bo$30bo7bo3bo13b2o8b4o
38bo21bo3bo159b2o17bobo7b2ob2ob2o$54bo4bo5b2ob2o39bo2bo19bo122bo8bo11b
2o20bo23bo4b2o75b4o11b4o$30bobobo3bobobo10bo12b2o207b4o32bo10bo66b5o
10bo3bo10bo3bo$53bo5bo195bo4bobobo9b2ob2o11b6o14b3o9b2ob2o41b4o17bo4bo
9bo14bo$53b6o216b2o13bo5bo14b2o12bo42bo3bo16bo15bo3bo10bo3bo$290bo29bo
3bo43bo21bo3bo15bo14bo$291bo4bo9b5o8bo49bo2bo5bo13bo14b2ob2o10b2ob2o$
293b2o11bo4bo7bo3bo24bo3bo3bobobo11bo3b2obo27bo14bo$306bo12b4o46bo3bo
2b2o13b3o13bo4b2o8bo4b2o$191b5o111bo3bo36bo3bo3bo3bo7bo6bo4bo9bo17b2ob
2obo8b2ob2o$87bobobo3bo3bo8bo82bo4bo112bo58bo4bob3o2bo8b2o21bo14b2o$
106b2o83bo27b4o125bobobo3bobobo7b5o3bobo9b2ob3o$91bo3bo3bo6bo2b3o2bo
77bo3bo22bo3bo151b2obo10bo5bo31b2o$106bo4b3o83b2o10b6o3bo133bo3bo3bo
16bo12b3o2bo16bo10b2ob2o$87bobobo3bobobo7b3o2b2o54bobobo3bobobo9bo9bo
8bo5bob4o2bo154bo13bo15b2ob2obo7bo4b2o$189bo19bo5bob2o55b4o13b5o13b2o
41bo3bobobo7b4o23bo11bo4b2o8bo$91bo7bo7b3o2b2o58bo3bo3bo8bo10bo9bo3bo
59bo3bo12bo4bo11b4o56bo3bo34bo14b2ob2o$106bo4b3o75b11o12bo61bo16bo15b
2ob2o56bo21b2o15b2ob2o13bo$87bobobo7bo6bo2b3o2bo53bobobo3bobobo30b2o
62bo2bo2bo10bo3bo11b2o59bo2bo16b2ob4o14bo9bo3bo$106b2o102b4o65b4o12bo
94b6o9bo3bo9bo$108bo63bo7bo28b2ob2o61bo6bo9bo2bob2o13bo78b4o9bo14bo3bo
$191b5o14b2o62bo7bo8bo5b2obo10bobo90bo3bo10b4o$168bobobo3bobobo10bo4bo
77bo16bo3bo2b2o10b2o92b4o$191bo82b7o10b4o14bo4bo$192bo3bo83b2ob2o12b3o
8b2o$194bo85bo16b2o8b2ob3o$280bob2o24b2o$274b4o13b5o17b2o$274bo3bo12bo
4bo16b2o$274bo16bo$191bo2bo80bo2bo13bo3bo10b5o$190bo103bo12bo4bo61b3o$
190bo3bo112bo65b5o$190b4o15bo2bo95bo3bo59b2ob3o$208bo101bo39bo3bo3bobo
bo10b2o$208bo3bo$191b3o3bo10b4o9b2o127bo3bo3bo3bo14b2o$190b5o2bo16b3o
5b2o$189b2ob4obo16b2ob2o6b3o122bobobo3bobobo11b5o$190b2o22b3o5b2o149b
2o$208b4o9b2o131bo7bo9b2o2b2o$208bo3bo160bobo$208bo145bo3bobobo11b2o3b
o$192b5o12bo2bo$192bo4bo178b3o$192bo$193bo3bo177b2o$195bo177bo4bo$372b
o$372bo5bo$372b6o!


The u is actually a ü

x = 14, y = 20, rule = B3/S23
2$5b2obo$2b3o3bo$2bo$2bo6bo$3b3o3bo$6b2o3$8b2o$7b2ob3o$8b5o$9b3o!


It would be nice to see more of those synthesised.
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Re: Big A gun

Postby hkoenig » September 24th, 2009, 8:24 pm

It should be pointed out that you've left out hundreds of ways that two or three spaceships can be combined that add or suppress sparks. The smallest have a population of 20:
x=78, y=8
3o3b3o8b3o3b3o9b3o3b3o9b3o13b3o$o2bobo2bo8bo2bobo2bo9bo2bobo2bo9bo2bo12bo2b
o$o7bo8bo7bo9bo7bo9bo5b3o7bo5b3o$o7bo8bo7bo9bo7bo9bo4bo2bo7bo4bo2bo$o3b2ob
o9bo4bobo10bo7bo9bo7bo7bo7bo$bobo13bo18bobobobo10bo7bo8bobo4bo$18bobo33bob
obobo16bo$74bobo!

On the other hand, you've got several new ones in there that I just added to my files. Thanks.
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Re: Big A gun

Postby HartmutHolzwart » September 25th, 2009, 4:28 pm

Sure, you are correct!

It just would be more thrilling to see non *WSS-ships synthesized.

The file is from Jason Summers collection, but at least I contributed quite a few of those ships.
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Re: Big A gun

Postby Sokwe » September 26th, 2009, 10:36 pm

The synthesis that I found for the 28-bit spaceship is difficult to incorporate into a gun, as the spacing of gliders in the salvo coming from the upper right is so close that I am unable to place them in their appropriate positions. Does anyone know of a way to do this? On a related note, has anyone managed to show that all possible two-glider salvos can be created?

x = 24, y = 21, rule = B3/S23
20b2o$2bobo13bo4bo$3b2o12bo$3bo13bo5bo$11bobo3b6o$7bo3b2o$6bo5bo$6b3o$
14bo$14bobo$14b2o7$b2o$obo15b2o$2bo14b2o$19bo!


Here is a synthesis of the second spaceship posted earlier by Hartmut (also included are some related spaceship syntheses):

x = 188, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
28bobo$29b2o$29bo9$42bo$40bobo$41b2o3$42b2o10bo$41bobo8b2o$43bo9b2o$
131bo$131bobo$10bo120b2o$10bobo110bo53bo$10b2o112b2o51bobo$2bo80bo2bo
36b2o3b2o7bo2bo36b2o$3b2o77bo45b2o6bo32bo$2b2o3b2o7bo2bo62bo3bo49bo3bo
29b2o$7b2o6bo66b4o50b4o29b2o3b2o8bo2bo$15bo3bo154bobo6bo$15b4o32b2o76b
2o44bo7bo3bo$51bobo75bobo51b4o$8b2o42b2o76b2o$8bobo165b2o$9b2o38b2o75b
2o7b2o39bobo$49b2o75b2o6b2o41b2o$6b2o6b2o104b3o13bo$6b2o5b2o107bo51b2o
6b2o$2o13bo105bo52b2o5b2o$b2o127b2o36b2o13bo$o128b2o38b2o$10b2o119bo
36bo$10bobo165b2o$10bo167bobo$178bo2$69b2o$68b2o$31b2o37bo$32b2o$31bo$
65b2o$65bobo$65bo!


Here is a synthesis of the big A tagalong being pulled by a lightweight spaceship and a middleweight spaceship:

x = 43, y = 49, rule = B3/S23
bobo$2b2o$2bo4$bobo7b2o24bo$2b2o8bo23bo$2bo9bobo21b3o$13b2o$9bo30bobo$
10b2o28b2o$9b2o30bo3$o$b2o$2o2$22bo$21bobo$21b2o3b2o$26bo$27b3o$29bo3$
10bobo$11b2o$11bo$25b2o$25bobo$25bo2$20bo$20b2o$19bobo$36b3o$36bo$37bo
$8b2o19b2o$7bobo19bobo$9bo19bo4$7bo23bo3b3o$7b2o21b2o3bo$6bobo21bobo3b
o!


To my knowledge, the smallest c/2 spaceships that do not have known syntheses are these:

x = 159, y = 12, rule = B3/S23
3o4b3o6b3o23b3o8b3o16b3o6b3o10b3o11b3o9b3o3b3o10b3o$o2bo2bo2bo5bo2bo6b
3o13bo2bo8bo2bo4b3o8bo2bo5bo2bo9bo2bo10bo2bo8bo2bobo2bo10bo2bo11b3o$o
5bo3bo4bo4bo4bo2bo12bo2bo8bo6bo2bo8bo8bo12bo6b3o4bo10bo3bobo3bo9bo6b3o
5bo2bo$o3bobobo9bobo2bo4bo12bo3bo7bo3bo5bo8bo3bo4bo3bo8bo5bo2bo4bo12bo
bobobo11bo5bo2bo5bo$o3bo3bo6b2o4bobobo14bo4bo8bo4bo3bo8bo3bobo2bo3bo9b
obo2b2obo5bobo9bo5bo12bobo2b2obo5bo3bo$o6b2o11bobo4b2o7bo3bo13bo3bo4bo
8bo4bobobo39b2o3b2o26bo$bobo2b2o10bo4bo11b3o6b2o7bobob2o3bo10bo8bobo
37b2ob2o28bobo$6b2o11bo5bo8b2obo3b2o10bo6bo14b2ob2o42b2ob2o$8bo15bo9b
3o64bo19bo5bo18bo$34b3o18b2obo43bo44bo$35b2o20bo42bo2bo41bo2bo$100bobo
42bobo!

Am I missing anything? Also, what are the smallest overweight spaceship flotillas (flotillae?) without syntheses?

HartmutHolzwart wrote:The u is actually a ü


A very sloppy ü, like one I might write.
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