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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by BlinkerSpawn » March 18th, 2018, 10:52 pm

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x = 43, y = 17, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
11bo$4b2o4bobo16b2o$5bo4b3o17bo$4b2o5bo17b2o5bo5bo$40b3o$33bo6bo$16bo
21bob2o$b2o11b3o$ob2o10bo24bo$b2o$7b2o9b2o$6bob2o8bo$7b2o9b2o3$32b3o$
32bobo!
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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by dani » March 19th, 2018, 1:29 am

How would one go about finding c/2 objects that are of strange periods? (like 22 or 34, for example?) I'm asking because I would like to find a puffer that can output these dots, or at least something that can be perturbed into a rake:

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x = 21, y = 1, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
obo3bo4bo3bo4bo!
Or for other similar (preferably over c/2) fuses.

I'm sorry I don't have more content in these last few posts, I suck at syntheses, but I want to contribute to this rule.

EDIT: To (possibly) make up for that, have another sideways R-push, this time using 2:

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x = 11, y = 14, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
3o$2bo$b2o3$10bo3$10bo2$2bo$3bo$3b2o$2b2o!
As well as this 2dots->T flyby:

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x = 27, y = 6, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
10bo2bo9bo2bo3$b2o$2bo$3o!

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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by 2718281828 » March 19th, 2018, 2:40 am

I am mainly responding on two posts of danny:
danny wrote:I'm sorry I don't have more content in these last few posts, I suck at syntheses, but I want to contribute to this rule.
Don't worry there are many things to do. E,g. you could build these three guns:
2718281828 wrote:Now, pseudo-gun should be constructable for all periods >= 15 (p15, p16, p17+):

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x = 95, y = 29, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
3$83bo$17bobo29bobo30bobo$17b3o29b3o30b3o$83bo8$89b2o$52b2o35bo$4b3o
45bo36b2o$6bo5b2o38b3o24b2o$5b2o4bob2o15b2o27b2o17bob2o$12b2o3bobo10bo
28bo14b2o3b2o6b2o$17b3o10b2o17bobo7b3o13bo7bo3bo$23b2o19b3o2b3o2b3o16b
3o6bobo2b3o$22b2obo20bo7bo27b3o$23b2o20b2o7b2o27bo$30b2o$30bo$30b2o!
Or something you were asking for:
danny wrote: Is there a stable snowflake signal->G converter? How would we go about finding such a thing?
could be constructed, the recipe is there:
2718281828 wrote:With this recipe:

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x = 123, y = 28, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
$63bobo30b2o$63b3o29bob2o$96b2o$26bo40bo$24b5o86b3o$24bo3bo86bo$23b2ob
ob2o78bo6b2o$24bo3bo79bobo$24b5o79b3o$26bo$23bo38bo39bo$21b3o36b3o2bo
34b3o15b2o$21bo4bo33bo39bo17bo$20b2o37b2o38b2o17b2o$16bo7b2o29bo7b2o
30bo7b2o3bo$14b5o5bo28b5o5bo29b5o5bo3b3o$8bo5bo3bo3b3o22bo5bo3bo3b3o
23bo5bo3bo3b3o3bobo$6b5o2b2obob2o2bo22b5o2b2obob2o2bo23b5o2b2obob2o2bo
6bo$6bo3bo3bo3bo26bo3bo3bo3bo27bo3bo3bo3bo$5b2obob2o2b5o25b2obob2o2b5o
9b3o14b2obob2o2b5o$6bo3bo5bo28bo3bo5bo11bobo15bo3bo5bo$b3o2b5o34b5o35b
5o$bobo4bo38bo39bo$bo!
A snowflake signal can be transformed into a G/R. Maybe there is a simpler reconstruction with G's and R's but I did not find any. In general, I there are better ways for transforming a snowflake signal into a G/R.

EDIT1:
Maybe something better could be done using:

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x = 47, y = 26, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
42bo$40bo$36bo3b2o$34b5o$34bo3bo$33b2obob2o$34bo3bo$34b5o$36bo$33bo$
31b3o$31bo4bo$30b2o$26bo7b2o$24b5o5bo$18bo5bo3bo3b3o$16b5o2b2obob2o2bo
$16bo3bo3bo3bo$15b2obob2o2b5o$16bo3bo5bo$11b3o2b5o$11bobo4bo$11bo!

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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by AbhpzTa » March 19th, 2018, 8:08 am

2718281828 wrote:
danny wrote: Possible p17 gun engine:

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#C [[ STOP 17 ]]
x = 6, y = 13, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
2b2o$2bo2bo$o3b2o$2o3$bobo3$2o$o3b2o$2bo2bo$2b2o!
At least it gives a nice p17 which provides a quite unusual spark:

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x = 20, y = 13, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
8b2o$6bo2bo9bo$o5b2o3bo$2bo7b2o$b2o2$8bobo3$10b2o$6b2o3bo$6bo2bo$8b2o!
EDIT1:
This is close, but still not working:

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x = 23, y = 45, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
10b2o$8bo2bo$2bo5b2o3bo$4bo7b2o$3b2o2$10bobo3bo3$12b2o$8b2o3bo$8bo2bo$
10b2o5$10b2o$8bo2bo$2bo5b2o3bo$4bo7b2o4bo$3b2o2b2o$6bo11b2o$10bobo6bo$
18b2o$8bo$12b2o$8b2o3bo$8bo2bo$10b2o4$8bo2bo$6bo6bo$6b2o4b2o3$3bo6bobo
3bo3$6b2o4b2o$6bo6bo$8bo2bo!
The dot has to be inserted very quickly, somehow by oscillators which interact with some still lifes and potentially the G (as in second case) such that the dot has the right position. Alternative we could somehow side-shoot G/R's with period of 34 to insert the dot. If we have such a collision that works we can copy it with phase shift of 17 on the other side. A p34 gun should be feasible, but p17 is hard.
The third figure is a reduction of this oscillator, esp. this p17 sparker.

p17 gun:

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x = 27, y = 20, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
7bo11bo$9bo7bo$8b2o7b2o$o25bo2$2bobobo13bobobo3$8b2o7b2o$4b2o2bo9bo2b
2o$4bo5bo2bo2bo5bo$6bo2b2o2bo2b2o2bo3$8b2o$9bo2b3o$7bo5bo3$15bo!
100009436650194649 = 94649 * 1056634900001

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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by dani » March 19th, 2018, 4:35 pm

Woah nice gun! A period-doubler, for p34:

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x = 33, y = 29, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
16bo2$14bo2$9b2o3bo$10bo$8bo5bo$3bo15bo$5bo4b2o5bo$4b2o2bo2bo5b2o$8b2o
2$4bo$3b2o3b2o$4bo$o$8b2o$8bo2bo5b2o$10b2o5bo3bo9bo$19bo3bo5bo$8bo5bo
7b2o2bo2b2o$10bo$9b2o3bo$25b3o2b2o$14bo10b3o2bo$25b3o4bo$16bo8bo2$24bo
!

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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by 2718281828 » March 19th, 2018, 4:58 pm

AbhpzTa wrote: p17 gun:

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RLE
great!

And a p17 R-gun:

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x = 32, y = 28, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
16bo$28bo$14bo$26bo$9b2o3bo5bo$10bo11bo$8bo5bo6b2o2b3o$3bo15bo$5bo4b2o
5bo3bo9bo$4b2o2bo2bo5b2o2b3o5bo$8b2o13bo5b2o$24bo$4bo9b2o6b2o$3b2o3b2o
5bo5bob2obo$4bo9b2o6b2ob3o$o25bo$8b2o$8bo2bo5b2o2bo$10b2o5bo5bo5b2o$
19bo2b2o5bo$8bo5bo16bo$10bo9bo$9b2o3bo7bo2b3o$21b2o$14bo$26bo$16bo$28b
o!

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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by dani » March 20th, 2018, 12:33 am

I'm wondering, should the goal for syntheses be taken up to <2 gliders per bit, to account for dots? Or maybe it would be <1 gliders per bit that is not a dot, but <2 gliders per bit that is a dot.

Note that I think R's should be counted as gliders, too.

Anyway, Z-tie in 6R:

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x = 16, y = 15, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
2bo2bo$3b3o$4bo4$4b3o$4bo$b2ob2o$2bo11b2o$3o5b3o2b2o$8bo5bo$5b2ob2o5bo
$6bo$4b3o!
Z-tie-Gull(?) in 6R:

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x = 17, y = 15, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
2bo2bo$3b3o$4bo4$4b3o$4bo$b2ob2o$2bo12b2o$3o5b3o3b2o$8bo6bo$5b2ob2o6bo
$6bo$4b3o!
I wonder at some of the larger still life names, like this 6R 'Z-tie on dot on Z':

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x = 17, y = 18, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
2bo2bo$3b3o$4bo4$4b3o$4bo$b2ob2o$2bo$3o5b3o$8bo$5b2ob2o$6bo$4b3o$14b3o
$14bo$14b2o!

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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by dani » March 20th, 2018, 1:44 am

p12 dot puffer that puffs p6 dots:

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x = 29, y = 19, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
6b2o$2o5bo11b2o$b2o2b3o12bo$bo17b2o$o25b2o$16bo10bo$15b3o3bobo2b2o2$
10bo2bo13b2o$11bobo14bo$15b3o8b3o$2b2o2b2o8bo3b2o$3b2o16bo$3bo8bo7b2o$
2bo8b2o2$12b2o$11bob2o$12b2o!
Fuses:

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x = 129, y = 49, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
106b2o$100b2o5bo11b2o$101b2o2b3o12bo$101bo17b2o$100bo25b2o$116bo10bo$
2o113b3o3bobo2b2o$bo$2o108bo2bo13b2o$111bobo14bo$115b3o8b3o$102b2o2b2o
8bo3b2o$103b2o16bo$103bo8bo7b2o$102bo8b2o2$112b2o$111bob2o$112b2o12$
106b2o$100b2o5bo11b2o$101b2o2b3o12bo$b2o98bo17b2o$2bo97bo25b2o$3o113bo
10bo$115b3o3bobo2b2o2$110bo2bo13b2o$3o108bobo14bo$2bo112b3o8b3o$b2o99b
2o2b2o8bo3b2o$103b2o16bo$103bo8bo7b2o$102bo8b2o2$112b2o$111bob2o$112b
2o!

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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by AbhpzTa » March 20th, 2018, 6:49 am

2718281828 wrote:And a p17 R-gun:

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x = 32, y = 28, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
16bo$28bo$14bo$26bo$9b2o3bo5bo$10bo11bo$8bo5bo6b2o2b3o$3bo15bo$5bo4b2o
5bo3bo9bo$4b2o2bo2bo5b2o2b3o5bo$8b2o13bo5b2o$24bo$4bo9b2o6b2o$3b2o3b2o
5bo5bob2obo$4bo9b2o6b2ob3o$o25bo$8b2o$8bo2bo5b2o2bo$10b2o5bo5bo5b2o$
19bo2b2o5bo$8bo5bo16bo$10bo9bo$9b2o3bo7bo2b3o$21b2o$14bo$26bo$16bo$28b
o!
Smaller:

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x = 27, y = 18, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
7bo11bo$9bo7bo$8b2o7b2o$o25bo$5bo7bo7bo$2bo2bo6b3o6bo2bo$5bo7bo7bo$10b
obo$8b2ob3o3b2o$3b2o4bo7bo4b2o$3bo3bo11bo3bo$5bo15bo$11b3o$7bo4bo4bo$
9bo5bo$8b2o5b2o2$10bo3bo!
100009436650194649 = 94649 * 1056634900001

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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by dani » March 20th, 2018, 8:51 pm

I think I found a new puffer engine, p4:

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x = 4, y = 8, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
2b2o$3bo$b3o2$o$4o$o2bo$2b2o!
It breaks down by generation 86, but here are some stabilization:

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x = 74, y = 52, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
7bo63bo$8bo63bo$8b2o62b2o$7b2o62b2o3$obo2bob2o52bo2bobo2bob2o$8b2o62b
2o$8bo41bo21bo$b2o4bo43bo19bo$2bo48b2o$b2o60b2o$64bo$63b2o7$10bo$11bo$
11b2o$10b2o$o2$3bobo2bob2o$11b2o$o10bo$10bo11$7bo$b2o5bo$2bo5b2o$b2o4b
2o3$obo2bob2o$8b2o$8bo$b2o4bo$2bo$b2o!

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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by BlinkerSpawn » March 20th, 2018, 9:39 pm

danny wrote:I think I found a new puffer engine, p4:

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x = 4, y = 8, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
2b2o$3bo$b3o2$o$4o$o2bo$2b2o!
It breaks down by generation 86, but here are some stabilization:

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x = 74, y = 52, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
7bo63bo$8bo63bo$8b2o62b2o$7b2o62b2o3$obo2bob2o52bo2bobo2bob2o$8b2o62b
2o$8bo41bo21bo$b2o4bo43bo19bo$2bo48b2o$b2o60b2o$64bo$63b2o7$10bo$11bo$
11b2o$10b2o$o2$3bobo2bob2o$11b2o$o10bo$10bo11$7bo$b2o5bo$2bo5b2o$b2o4b
2o3$obo2bob2o$8b2o$8bo$b2o4bo$2bo$b2o!
p8 rakes!

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x = 12, y = 32, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
9bo$10bo$10b2o$9b2o3$7bob2o$10b2o$10bo$3o6bo$2bo$b2o7$9bo$10bo$10b2o$
9b2o3$7bob2o$10b2o$10bo$9bo$2b2o$3b2o$3bo$2bo!
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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by dani » March 21st, 2018, 2:42 pm

Oh, nice! Here's another p8 siderake and backrake (partially taken from the yl8 section of catagolue):

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x = 8, y = 19, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
5b2o$6bo$5b2o2$5b3o$b2o4bo$2bo3b2o$3o3$6b2o$7bo$6b2o$4bo2$6b2o$b2o4bo$
2bo2b3o$3o!
Also, am I the only one reminded a bit of the LFOD breeder by some of these puffers? I don't know, maybe it's just me but I like the dynamic of this rule a lot.

Would a rake that shoots 2c/12s be possible?

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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by 2718281828 » March 21st, 2018, 6:06 pm

Two more 4G synthesis:

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x = 74, y = 25, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
5$15b2o$9b2o5bo$8bob2o3b2o25b2o$9b2o30bob2o$15b2o25b2o$14b2obo$15b2o
29b2o$42b2ob2obo$15b2o26bo2b2o$16bo25b2o5b2o$15b2o32bo$49b2o!
The carrier (where we have 2G+R =5G at the moment) and xp2_6ir, the most common p2:

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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by 2718281828 » March 21st, 2018, 7:13 pm

danny wrote: Would a rake that shoots 2c/12s be possible?
Yes:

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x = 15, y = 29, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
2b3o$2bobob3o$2bo3bobo3$bo$3o2b3o$obob2o$bo2bo4b3o$4b2o3bobo$5b3obo2$
12b3o$12bobo$12bo10$13bo$12b3o$4b3o5bo$4bobo$4bo!

Something, which could count as a 9c/176 fuse:

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x = 26, y = 14, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
9bo$8bo$7b2o$8b2o$2bo$bo22b2o$2o23bo$b2obo19b2o$20bobo2$b2o21b2o$2o17b
2o4bo$bo18bo2b3o$2bo15b3o!

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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by 77topaz » March 21st, 2018, 7:45 pm

It seems to me like that is more like a crystal than a fuse, though, because it is added to rather than burned.

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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by 2718281828 » March 22nd, 2018, 1:01 pm

I think the reaction is known, but I think it was nut uilised as a gun.
A double p99 R-gun:

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x = 54, y = 11, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
bo$3bo$2b2o41bo$43b5o$o7b2o6bo3b2o21bo3bo3b2o$8bo10b2obo19b2obob2o2bo$
8b2o6bo3b2o21bo3bo5bo$43b5o$2b2o41bo$3bo$bo!
and a similar p93:

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x = 44, y = 12, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
37bo$bo33bo5bo$3bo31b2o4b3o$2b2o39bo$17bo2b2o$o5b2o8b3obo20bo$6bo10bo
2b2o$6b2o35bo$35b2o4b3o$2b2o31bo5bo$3bo33bo$bo!

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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by AbhpzTa » March 22nd, 2018, 3:51 pm

(1,0)c/2 p44 G siderake:

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x = 42, y = 29, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
33bo$34bo$4b2o28b2o$5bo27b2o$3b3o2$28bo10b3o$20bo20bo$40b2o$2o24bo2bo
7bo$bo17bo$2o37b2o$28bo11b2o$17b3o10bo3bo5bo$13bo25bo2$18bo8bo11b3o$
26b3o2bo9bo$17bo22b2o3$26b3o3b3o$27bo6bo$33b2o3$25b2o$26bo$25b2o!
100009436650194649 = 94649 * 1056634900001

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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by Mandelbrot » March 22nd, 2018, 9:35 pm

How do I put this rule into apgsearch? When I put it in, it just takes out aaaaaaaaaaall of the letters and just turns it into B2348/S0234567. (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e --> B2348/S0234567) How do I fix this???
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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by FlameandFury » March 22nd, 2018, 10:03 pm

If you're using Python, get this hacked version of apgsearch: viewtopic.php?f=9&t=1480&p=25942#p25942
Otherwise, get apgsearch 4 (apgluxe): https://gitlab.com/apgoucher/apgmera
This LifeWiki page explains it better: http://conwaylife.com/wiki/Tutorials/Co ... _Catagolue
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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by dani » March 23rd, 2018, 11:40 am

@2718281828 your rake shoots R's. I was thinking the big diagonal glider

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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by AbhpzTa » March 23rd, 2018, 5:55 pm

p15 G gun:

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x = 29, y = 21, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
8b2o9b2o$9bo9bo$9b2o7b2o3$4bobobo11bobobo$o27bo2$b2o6b2o7b2o6b2o$bo7bo
9bo7bo$3bo7bo5bo7bo$10b2o5b2o$14bo3$13b3o2$9bo$11bo$10b2o$13bo!
p15 R gun:

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x = 14, y = 21, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
bo$3bo3bo$2b2o3$4bobobo2$o$2b2o$3bo$bo3bo2bo$4b2o$8bo$12bo$6bo3bo$3b2o
$3bo4bo$5bo5b2o$4b2o2bo2bo$13bo$6bo!
p20 G gun:

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x = 20, y = 25, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
12bo3bo4$10b2o2bo2b2o$3bo3bo3bo2bo2bo$9bo4bo4bo$9b2o2bobo$10bo$b2o5bo$
2bobobob2o$o2$5bo$bo$3bo$2b2o5b2o$10bo2bobo$8bo5bo4bo$10b2o2bo2bo$11bo
2bo2b2o$9bo3$12bo3bo!
EDIT : Smaller p15 R gun from Catagolue (C2_2) , reduced:

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x = 14, y = 15, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
b2o$bo$2o$4bo2$4bo$o$4bo4bo$13bo$9bo2$9bo$bo10b2o$12bo$11b2o!
100009436650194649 = 94649 * 1056634900001

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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by dani » March 23rd, 2018, 7:32 pm

Nice! I feel like this is a lead on a gun that generates two close R-gliders:

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x = 28, y = 28, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
25b2o$21b2o3bo$15bo5bo4b2o$19bo4bo$17b2o4bo$16b2o5bo$16bo6bo3bo$16b2o
6b2o$14bo3bo6bo$18bo5b2o$18bo4b2o$17bo4bo$14b2o4bo$15bo3b2o$8bo3bo2b2o
$2bo9b3o$14bo3bo$20bo$7bobobo7b2o5$3bobobo2$o$3o$2bo3bo!
I, of course, used AbhpzTa's reduced gun, but couldn't work out anything with still lifes or the regenerating p3 (Any ideas what to call that thing?)

I found a very interesting p2+dot eater which works in both phases:

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x = 27, y = 15, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
2bo5bo$3o3b3o10b2o3b3o$o5bo5bo5b2obo2bo$2bo5bo10b2o3b2o$b2o4b2o6$2bo5b
o$3o3b3o10b2o3b3o$o2bo2bo2bo2bo5b2obo2bo$2bo5bo10b2o3b2o$b2o4b2o!
And now, a very satisfying pattern when ran in a speed that is a multiple of two:

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#C [[ STEP 2 GPS 30 ]]
x = 64, y = 29, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
3o2b3o$2bo4bo$b2o3b2o3$16bo5bo2bo5bo8bo2bo2bo5bo2bo5bo$11b2ob2ob2ob2ob
2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2o$11bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo
2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo$13b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o11$bo
$2bo2b3o$2b2o3bo$b2o3b2o3$16bo5bo2bo5bo8bo2bo2bo5bo2bo5bo$11b2ob2ob2ob
2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2o$11bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo
2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo$13b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o!
I call them 'r-unifiers' or 'r-correctors'. 77topaz suggested on the discord the name 'r-rephasers', which is probably more accurate anyway.

EDIT: Or 'r-regulator'

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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by AbhpzTa » March 24th, 2018, 2:17 pm

danny wrote:Would a rake that shoots 2c/12s be possible?
Yes.
(1,0)c/2 p20 xq12_58o9 forerake:

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x = 48, y = 70, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
34bo$35bo$35b2o$34b2o6$35b3o$27bo7bobo$25bobo16b3o$25b3o18bo$39b3o3b2o
$38bo2bo$38bo4bo$32b2o4b2o2bo2b2o$33b2o7bo3bo$33bo11b2o$32bo$17bo28b2o
$15bobo29bo$15b3o16bo10b3o2$34bo2b3o$39bo$38b2o2$32b3o$34bo$7bo25b2o$
5bobo7bo7bobo2bo$5b3o8bo6b3o3bo$16b2o11b2o$15b2o11b2o$34b2o$35bo$20bo
9bo2b3o$o9bo$30bo2$15bo14bo11b3o$14bo29bo$13b2o28b2o$14b2o$28b2o9bo2b
2o$27bob2o12bo$bo26b2o12b2o$3o37bo$obo$bo40b2o$43bo$13bo27b3o$14bo$14b
2o$13b2o15bobo$30b3o$10b3o$9bo3bo$9bo3bo7bo$8b2obob2o5b3o$19b5o$11bo8b
3o$21bo$25bo$12b3o11bo$14bo5b2o4b2o$13b2o6b2o2b2o$21bo$20bo!
EDIT: p16 G gun:

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x = 21, y = 18, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
4bo11bo$6bo7bo$bo3b2o7b2o3bo2$o4b2o7b2o4bo$6bo7bo$5bo4bo4bo$4b2o9b2o$
10bo2$10bo4$10bo$8b2ob2o$8bo2bo$10b2o!
100009436650194649 = 94649 * 1056634900001

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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by toroidalet » March 25th, 2018, 11:56 am

c/19 pushing thing:

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x = 27, y = 28, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
14bo$12b2ob2o$12bobobo$11b2o3b2o5$13bo$12bobo$7bo4b3o4bo$9bo3bo3bo$8b
2o7b2o$o25bo$5bo7bo7bo$2bo2bo6b3o6bo2bo$5bo7bo7bo$10bobo$8b2ob3o3b2o$
3b2o4bo7bo4b2o$3bo3bo11bo3bo$5bo15bo$11b3o$7bo4bo4bo$9bo5bo$8b2o5b2o2$
10bo3bo!
Also the r slidegun can work at all c/(70+8n) with a corresponding p68+8n gun:

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x = 90, y = 75, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
20bo$18b5o$18bo3bo$17b2obob2o$18bo3bo$18b5o$20bo2$22bo$20b5o$20bo3bo$
19b2obob2o$20bo3bo$20b5o$22bo4$14bo71bo$12b5o67b5o$12bo3bo67bo3bo$11b
2obob2o65b2obob2o$12bo3bo67bo3bo$12b5o4b3o4bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo
3bo3bo4bo2bo2bo4b5o$14bo5bo3bo61bo$20bo3bo$19b2obob2o$20bo3bo$20b5o$
22bo2$16bo$18bo$17b2o2$20bo6bo$14bo10bo$16bo8b2o$15b2o$15bo$17bo$16b2o
2$9bo17bo$7b5o8b2o5b3o$bo5bo3bo7b2obo6bo5bo$3bo2b2obob2o7b2o6bobo2bo$
2b2o3bo3bo17bo3b2o$7b5o9bo5b3o$9bo9b5o3bo$19bo3bo$18b2obob2o$19bo3bo$
19b5o$21bo$8bo$6b5o$6bo3bo16bo$b2o2b2obob2o13b5o5bo$2bo3bo3bo13bo4bo3b
o$o5b5o9b2o2bo2bob2o2b2o$8bo11b2o2bo4bo$25b5o$14bo12bo$12b5o$12bo3bo$
11b2obob2o$12bo3bo$12b5o$14bo3$14b2o$14bo$16bo!
besides periodic stuff, a 3-way repeat time 68 snowflake signal splitter that can have any of its outputs terminated:

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x = 64, y = 46, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
18bo$16b5o$16bo3bo$15b2obob2o$16bo3bo$16b5o$18bo2$20bo$18b5o$18bo3bo$
17b2obob2o$18bo3bo$18b5o$20bo2$18bo$16b5o$16bo3bo$15b2obob2o$16bo3bo
34bo$16b5o36bo$18bo37b2o$15bo$13b5o13bo23bo$7bo5bo3bo11b5o19b5o$5b5o2b
2obob2o4bo5bo3bo13bo5bo3bo$5bo3bo3bo3bo3b5o2b2obob2o10b5o2b2obob2o4bo$
3ob2obob2o2b5o3bo3bo3bo3bo11bo3bo3bo3bo3bo$obo2bo3bo5bo4b2obob2o2b5o6b
3ob2obob2o2b5o3b2o$o4b5o11bo3bo5bo8bobo2bo3bo5bo$7bo5bo7b5o14bo4b5o$
11b5o7bo23bo$11bo3bo38b2o$10b2obob2o37bo$11bo3bo40bo$11b5o$13bo2$15bo$
13b5o$13bo3bo$12b2obob2o$13bo3bo$13b5o$15bo!
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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by AbhpzTa » March 26th, 2018, 2:41 pm

p21 G gun:

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x = 17, y = 23, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
9b2o3b2o$9bo5bo$5bo2b2o5b2o$3bo7b3o$5b3o4bo4$5b3o$o5bo4$o5bo$5b3o4$5b
3o4bo$3bo7b3o$5bo2b2o5b2o$9bo5bo$9b2o3b2o!
Known gun periods:
For G: 15,16,17,19,20,21,24,28,30,32 and above (unknown: 11,12,13,14,18,22,23,25,26,27,29,31)
For R: 15,16,17,19,20,21,24,28,30,32 and above (unknown: 9,10,11,12,13,14,18,22,23,25,26,27,29,31)
100009436650194649 = 94649 * 1056634900001

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