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Re: B2e3i4at/S1c23cijn4a

Postby Hunting » March 14th, 2019, 12:47 am

Moosey wrote:
Hunting wrote:Didn't expected the b3q variation is so interesting! Orthogonoid, maybe?

What, rule Y?
Someone will need a synthesis for the reflector/splitter before we can make UC technology.
We need that 2718281828 guy.

Would this be the first explosive isotopic 2-state nontotalistic rule with an engineered spaceship?


Probably! I wanna go for a record! :)

Okay... I need to calm down a bit. So I will make a collection for G+common objects and then make a slow salvo for the reflector.
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Re: B2e3i4at/S1c23cijn4a

Postby Moosey » March 14th, 2019, 7:44 am

Hunting wrote:
Moosey wrote:
Hunting wrote:Didn't expected the b3q variation is so interesting! Orthogonoid, maybe?

What, rule Y?
Someone will need a synthesis for the reflector/splitter before we can make UC technology.
We need that 2718281828 guy.

Would this be the first explosive isotopic 2-state nontotalistic rule with an engineered spaceship?


Probably! I wanna go for a record! :)

Okay... I need to calm down a bit. So I will make a collection for G+common objects and then make a slow salvo for the reflector.

Are there any versions of SLmake which can accept any rule given a G and a target SL?
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Re: B2e3i4at/S1c23cijn4a

Postby Hunting » March 14th, 2019, 9:27 am

Moosey wrote:
Hunting wrote:
Moosey wrote:What, rule Y?
Someone will need a synthesis for the reflector/splitter before we can make UC technology.
We need that 2718281828 guy.

Would this be the first explosive isotopic 2-state nontotalistic rule with an engineered spaceship?


Probably! I wanna go for a record! :)

Okay... I need to calm down a bit. So I will make a collection for G+common objects and then make a slow salvo for the reflector.

Are there any versions of SLmake which can accept any rule given a G and a target SL?

No need for SLmake, I'm good at "mannually" making things.

Also, I can't edit pattern from Monday to Friday.
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Re: B2e3i4at/S1c23cijn4a

Postby Moosey » March 14th, 2019, 9:36 am

Hunting wrote:No need for SLmake, I'm good at "mannually" making things.

Also, I can't edit pattern from Monday to Friday.


1. Still, a SLmake relative could be useful in the future.

2. School, huh? I’m homeschooled (right now) so things are less time-consuming, though that doesn’t mean I can constantly check the forums on weekdays. My afternoons are nonetheless typically free.
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Re: B2e3i4at/S1c23cijn4a

Postby Hunting » March 14th, 2019, 9:41 am

Moosey wrote:
Hunting wrote:No need for SLmake, I'm good at "mannually" making things.

Also, I can't edit pattern from Monday to Friday.


1. Still, a SLmake relative could be useful in the future.

2. School, huh? I’m homeschooled (right now) so things are less time-consuming, though that doesn’t mean I can constantly check the forums on weekdays. My afternoons are nonetheless typically free.


Wow, another homeschool guy!
I was homeschooled for a long time, but just stucked into school a few weeks ago.

Yep, SLmake will be useful.
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Re: B2e3i4at/S1c23cijn4a

Postby testitemqlstudop » March 14th, 2019, 10:18 am

well, you'd need to slow-salvo honeysearch it first, with a custom glider, so...
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Re: B2e3i4at/S1c23cijn4a

Postby googoIpIex » March 14th, 2019, 12:08 pm

Hunting wrote:
Moosey wrote:
Hunting wrote:No need for SLmake, I'm good at "mannually" making things.

Also, I can't edit pattern from Monday to Friday.


1. Still, a SLmake relative could be useful in the future.

2. School, huh? I’m homeschooled (right now) so things are less time-consuming, though that doesn’t mean I can constantly check the forums on weekdays. My afternoons are nonetheless typically free.


Wow, another homeschool guy!
I was homeschooled for a long time, but just stucked into school a few weeks ago.

Yep, SLmake will be useful.

Wow, everyone on this forum is homeschooled! So am I. I wonder what the reason is.
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Re: B2e3i4at/S1c23cijn4a

Postby Moosey » March 14th, 2019, 12:14 pm

googoIpIex wrote:Wow, everyone on this forum is homeschooled! So am I. I wonder what the reason is.
Homeschooled people bump into more things on the internet. They also have more spare time because they spend more time in class learning effectively (while in brick-and-mortar schools you may be way ahead or behind your classmates and may thus waste more time not learning.) Assuming there is some satisfiable “learning minimum” for a day, you’d expect homeschoolers to reach it sooner and have more spare time. For instance, I’m spending typically about 30 minutes at most on math while routinely making progress on khan academy (around 1-2% every day of the differential calculus course). Compare this to those around my age in grade school, who might spend more like 45 minutes on average on math to make similar progress (they COULD be learning calculus; I don’t find it difficult to grasp, so I imagine neither would they if some of them could just get over the weird (to me (why don’t people use nested parentheses?)) “yuck, learning” thing.), because they might spend fifteen minutes unproductively because there’s maybe just one problem that they don’t understand. They need to wait for a teacher to come around, but all teachers may already be working with a student. Compare this with homeschooling. If you need help, you’ll get it substantially faster.

Anyways, there’s my seven gazillion cents. And Dvgrn paragraph.
This is getting off topic. We can discuss it further in random posts or something without frustrating people about repeated off-topic posts.
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Re: B2e3i4at/S1c23cijn4a

Postby testitemqlstudop » March 14th, 2019, 12:22 pm

homeschooled as well
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Re: B2e3i4at/S1c23cijn4a

Postby Hunting » March 15th, 2019, 1:20 am

G+pre-block
x = 109, y = 30, rule = B2e3iq4at/S1c23cijn4a
33bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo$34bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo7$
30b2o9b2o9b2o9b2o9b2o9b2o9b2o9b2o$30bo10bo10bo10bo10bo10bo10bo10bo11$
3bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo$4bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo7$o
10bo10bo10bo10bo10bo10bo10bo$2o9b2o9b2o9b2o9b2o9b2o9b2o9b2o!


"Useful" results

One push
x = 4, y = 10, rule = B2e3iq4at/S1c23cijn4a
bobo$2bo7$o$2o!


Three pulls
x = 26, y = 10, rule = B2e3iq4at/S1c23cijn4a
3bobo4bobo7bobo$4bo6bo9bo7$2o11bo10bo$o12b2o9b2o!


A start on constructing constellations
x = 6, y = 10, rule = B2e3iq4at/S1c23cijn4a
3bobo$4bo7$o$2o!


@Moosey @2718281828

EDIT: 2G collisions
x = 136, y = 31, rule = B2e3iq4at/S1c23cijn4a
obo17bobo17bobo17bobo17bobo17bobo17bobo$bo19bo19bo19bo19bo19bo19bo6$9b
o20bo20bo20bo20bo20bo20bo$8bo20bo20bo20bo20bo20bo20bo$9bo20bo20bo20bo
20bo20bo20bo11$obo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo$bo9bo9bo9bo9bo8$bo10bo10bo10bo
10bo$obo8bobo8bobo8bobo8bobo!
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Re: B2e3i4at/S1c23cijn4a

Postby 2718281828 » March 15th, 2019, 5:57 am

Hunting wrote:@Moosey @2718281828

EDIT: 2G collisions
x = 136, y = 31, rule = B2e3iq4at/S1c23cijn4a
obo17bobo17bobo17bobo17bobo17bobo17bobo$bo19bo19bo19bo19bo19bo19bo6$9b
o20bo20bo20bo20bo20bo20bo$8bo20bo20bo20bo20bo20bo20bo$9bo20bo20bo20bo
20bo20bo20bo11$obo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo$bo9bo9bo9bo9bo8$bo10bo10bo10bo
10bo$obo8bobo8bobo8bobo8bobo!

They are more, they are all collisions where the ships have the same colour.
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Re: B2e3i4at/S1c23cijn4a

Postby Hunting » March 15th, 2019, 6:20 am

2718281828 wrote:
Hunting wrote:@Moosey @2718281828

EDIT: 2G collisions
x = 136, y = 31, rule = B2e3iq4at/S1c23cijn4a
obo17bobo17bobo17bobo17bobo17bobo17bobo$bo19bo19bo19bo19bo19bo19bo6$9b
o20bo20bo20bo20bo20bo20bo$8bo20bo20bo20bo20bo20bo20bo$9bo20bo20bo20bo
20bo20bo20bo11$obo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo$bo9bo9bo9bo9bo8$bo10bo10bo10bo
10bo$obo8bobo8bobo8bobo8bobo!

They are more, they are all collisions where the ships have the same colour.


Oh, yeah - I was in a hurry when I made that tabulation.

p. s. Neverbworked on a realbproject before!
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Re: B2e3i4at/S1c23cijn4a

Postby Hunting » March 15th, 2019, 8:33 am

Hey, the push is a knightwise push which pushs 1 cell and move horizonally 2 cells. Sorry for double postingbut Im on a mobile service

same color 2gs raises two different preblock constelations, 1g, and some mess: One produces the first gun in this thread(and in my signature, too) with a loaf-missing-first-row(lets call is L) and two 3o$obo!s andd... uh I cant remember.

other one preduces a preblock and two glider
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Re: B2e3i4at/S1c23cijn4a

Postby 2718281828 » March 15th, 2019, 9:13 am

For the 3q rule:
A small improvement for the min. repeat time of the splitter:
x = 19, y = 44, rule = B2e3iq4at/S1c23cijn4ay
$10bobo$11bo20$10bobo$10b3o3$15b2o$3b2ob2o8bo$4bobo2$16bo$15b2o4$9b2o$
10bo3$10bo$8b2o$8bobo!

Still it is quite large.
Still I doubt that an orthonoid is within reach.

A design should look somehow like this
x = 46, y = 76, rule = B2e3iq4at/S1c23cijn4ay
$34bobo$35bo21$34bobo$34b3o2$16bo$15b2o22b2o$27b2ob2o8bo$15b2o11bobo$
16bo$2b2o36bo$3bo4bo30b2o$2bobo2b2o3$33b2o$34bo2$10bo$10b2o22bo$32b2o$
32bobo28$12bo$12b2o!

The problem is that this rule is not reactive enough to support different reactions with the high repeat time of above 40 for shooting at a target. Most reactions take less than 30 ticks or create a puffer/rake/breeder, and slow salvo construction from one lane is not rich enough. And even if it is possible, it will be much larger than the one in dominoplex (which is already quite small).
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Re: B2e3i4at/S1c23cijn4a

Postby Hunting » March 15th, 2019, 10:45 am

well Im not experiemented. Thats just an idea. I didnt expect it is smaller than the dominoplex one since that one is pretty engineerable while this is not.
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Re: B2e3i4at/S1c23cijn4a

Postby Moosey » March 15th, 2019, 12:28 pm

2718281828 wrote:And even if it is possible, it will be much larger than the one in dominoplex (which is already quite small).

That is no surprise, comparing the size of the splitters/reflectors.
I still think that this should be attempted because it’s a “challenge in engineering”.
Perhaps we can even find a different way to make a self-constructing spaceship (multiple different places to shoot from rather than one single channel arm might be a good start, though it would be expensive) that could benefit CGoL.
Or not.

Regardless, I think it can be a fun, if not useful, project.
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Re: B2e3i4at/S1c23cijn4a

Postby Hunting » March 16th, 2019, 12:17 am

Moosey wrote:
2718281828 wrote:And even if it is possible, it will be much larger than the one in dominoplex (which is already quite small).

That is no surprise, comparing the size of the splitters/reflectors.
I still think that this should be attempted because it’s a “challenge in engineering”.
Perhaps we can even find a different way to make a self-constructing spaceship (multiple different places to shoot from rather than one single channel arm might be a good start, though it would be expensive) that could benefit CGoL.
Or not.

Regardless, I think it can be a fun, if not useful, project.


Yep, that's just a thing to work on, not meant to be something useful.

I will make the different color 2G tabulations today, wonder if theres surpirsing results.
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Re: B2e3i4at/S1c23cijn4a

Postby Hunting » March 16th, 2019, 12:17 am

Any p5 oscs?

EDIT: More 2gs
x = 136, y = 31, rule = B2e3iq4at/S1c23cijn4a
obo17bobo17bobo17bobo17bobo17bobo17bobo$bo19bo19bo19bo19bo19bo19bo6$8b
2o19b2o19b2o19b2o19b2o19b2o19b2o$8bo20bo20bo20bo20bo20bo20bo$8b2o19b2o
19b2o19b2o19b2o19b2o19b2o11$obo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo$bo9bo9bo9bo9bo8$3o
8b3o8b3o8b3o8b3o$obo8bobo8bobo8bobo8bobo!


So we have synthesis for this ship:
x = 16, y = 28, rule = B2e3iq4at/S1c23cijn4a
4bobo$5bo6$14b2o$14bo$14b2o17$bo$obo
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Re: B2e3i4at/S1c23cijn4a

Postby Hunting » March 16th, 2019, 3:12 am

2718281828 wrote:For the 3q rule:
A small improvement for the min. repeat time of the splitter:
x = 19, y = 44, rule = B2e3iq4at/S1c23cijn4ay
$10bobo$11bo20$10bobo$10b3o3$15b2o$3b2ob2o8bo$4bobo2$16bo$15b2o4$9b2o$
10bo3$10bo$8b2o$8bobo!

Still it is quite large.
Still I doubt that an orthonoid is within reach.

A design should look somehow like this
x = 46, y = 76, rule = B2e3iq4at/S1c23cijn4ay
$34bobo$35bo21$34bobo$34b3o2$16bo$15b2o22b2o$27b2ob2o8bo$15b2o11bobo$
16bo$2b2o36bo$3bo4bo30b2o$2bobo2b2o3$33b2o$34bo2$10bo$10b2o22bo$32b2o$
32bobo28$12bo$12b2o!

The problem is that this rule is not reactive enough to support different reactions with the high repeat time of above 40 for shooting at a target. Most reactions take less than 30 ticks or create a puffer/rake/breeder, and slow salvo construction from one lane is not rich enough. And even if it is possible, it will be much larger than the one in dominoplex (which is already quite small).


Ok, now we have the stable converter G-to-M, which leads to better slow salvos, but why cant we use original G?

EDIT: Okay, I think we must uses L or M now, because the G basically doesn't work for depth=2.

Unrelated wickstrecher:
x = 8, y = 6, rule = B2e3iq4at/S1c23cijn4a
6bo$5bobo$3obo2bo$obobo$5bo$4b2o!


EDIT: Start with M. We don't have anything which eventually produces L.

x = 90, y = 72, rule = B2e3iq4at/S1c23cijn4a
3bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo$3bo2bo6bo2bo6bo2bo6bo2bo6bo2bo6bo2bo6bo2bo
6bo2bo6bo2bo$4bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo$5bo9bo9bo9b
o9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo7$2o9b2o9b2o9b2o9b2o9b2o9b2o9b2o9b2o$o10bo10bo10bo10bo
10bo10bo10bo10bo9$3bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo$3bo2bo6bo2bo6bo2bo6bo2bo
6bo2bo6bo2bo6bo2bo6bo2bo6bo2bo$4bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bob
o7bobo$5bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo7$2o9b2o9b2o9b2o9b2o9b2o9b2o9b2o9b2o
$bo10bo10bo10bo10bo10bo10bo10bo10bo9$3bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo$3bo2b
o6bo2bo6bo2bo6bo2bo6bo2bo6bo2bo6bo2bo6bo2bo6bo2bo$4bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo
7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo$5bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo7$bo10bo10bo10bo
10bo10bo10bo10bo10bo$2o9b2o9b2o9b2o9b2o9b2o9b2o9b2o9b2o9$3bo9bo9bo9bo
9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo$3bo2bo6bo2bo6bo2bo6bo2bo6bo2bo6bo2bo6bo2bo6bo2bo6bo2bo
$4bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo$5bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9b
o9bo7$o10bo10bo10bo10bo10bo10bo10bo10bo$2o9b2o9b2o9b2o9b2o9b2o9b2o9b2o
9b2o!


Seems a lot more promising...

EDIT: Noticed there's a special reaction which produces strange still life
x = 6, y = 12, rule = B2e3iq4at/S1c23cijn4a
2bo$2bo2bo$3bobo$4bo7$bo$2o!


I didn't found any interesting reactions on that still life. Expect for this reaction which makes L synthesisable:

x = 11, y = 13, rule = B2e3iq4at/S1c23cijn4a
7bo$7bo2bo$8bobo$9bo7$obo$2o2bobo$3bob2o!


And cleanups, too
x = 20, y = 58, rule = B2e3iq4at/S1c23cijn4a
6bobo8bobo$7bo10bo10$7bobo$8bo8$o7bobo$bo6b2o2bo$o10b2o$18bo$17b2o32$
7bo10bo$6bobo8bobo!


which means we have 13G synthesis for L. (Probably suboptimal, and really expensive, but this is the best I can get so far.)
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Re: B2e3i4at/S1c23cijn4a

Postby Moosey » March 16th, 2019, 7:09 am

Hunting wrote:...

I didn't found any interesting reactions on that still life. Expect for this reaction which makes L synthesisable:

x = 11, y = 13, rule = B2e3iq4at/S1c23cijn4a
7bo$7bo2bo$8bobo$9bo7$obo$2o2bobo$3bob2o!


...

We could just use that splitter (repeat time 43) to make as many Ls as needed. Of course, whether that would be any use in practice is another matter.

Speaking of the splitter,
2718281828 wrote:For the 3q rule:
A small improvement for the min. repeat time of the splitter:
x = 19, y = 44, rule = B2e3iq4at/S1c23cijn4ay
$10bobo$11bo20$10bobo$10b3o3$15b2o$3b2ob2o8bo$4bobo2$16bo$15b2o4$9b2o$
10bo3$10bo$8b2o$8bobo!


Nice. The rule is one step closer to being omniperiodic.
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Re: B2e3i4at/S1c23cijn4a

Postby Hunting » March 16th, 2019, 7:15 am

Moosey wrote:
Hunting wrote:...

I didn't found any interesting reactions on that still life. Expect for this reaction which makes L synthesisable:

x = 11, y = 13, rule = B2e3iq4at/S1c23cijn4a
7bo$7bo2bo$8bobo$9bo7$obo$2o2bobo$3bob2o!


...

We could just use that splitter (repeat time 43) to make as many Ls as needed. Of course, whether that would be any use in practice is another matter.


Oh yeah. Wait... I'm messing the rules? Your version also includes S4y!!

That means. I have to restart. Sadly.

EDIT: With the correct rule, here for a 4G L:
x = 12, y = 17, rule = B2e3iq4at/S1c23cijn4ay
9bobo$10bo6$2bobo$3bo7$o$2o!


Also, G-salvo won't work too within B3qS4y rule.

Unrelated:
x = 6, y = 7, rule = B2e3iq4at/S1c23cijn4a
3bobo$3b3o$o$2o2$3bo$3b2o!


EDIT: Stupid, but probably leads to the synthesis of the third spaceship in the first RLE in this thread.

x = 9, y = 5, rule = B2e3iq4at/S1c23cijn4a
2bo$b2o4b2o$bo5bo$o6b2o$2o!


EDIT: Digging in the M+Pre-Block tabulation, stable M-to-G
x = 7, y = 12, rule = B2e3iq4at/S1c23cijn4a
3bo$3bo2bo$4bobo$5bo7$o$2o!


EDIT: Again, I filtered all M+Pre-Block which doesn't release gliders or just vanishs:
x = 79, y = 72, rule = B2e3iq4at/S1c23cijn4a
2bo29bo29bo$2bo2bo26bo2bo26bo2bo$3bobo27bobo27bobo$4bo29bo29bo7$2o31b
2o31b2o$o32bo32bo9$32bo29bo9bo$32bo2bo26bo2bo6bo2bo$33bobo27bobo7bobo$
34bo29bo9bo7$33b2o31b2o9b2o$34bo32bo10bo9$2bo9bo9bo19bo9bo19bo$2bo2bo
6bo2bo6bo2bo16bo2bo6bo2bo16bo2bo$3bobo7bobo7bobo17bobo7bobo17bobo$4bo
9bo9bo19bo9bo19bo7$bo10bo10bo21bo10bo21bo$2o9b2o9b2o20b2o9b2o20b2o9$
12bo9bo9bo19bo9bo9bo$12bo2bo6bo2bo6bo2bo16bo2bo6bo2bo6bo2bo$13bobo7bob
o7bobo17bobo7bobo7bobo$14bo9bo9bo19bo9bo9bo7$11bo10bo10bo21bo10bo10bo$
11b2o9b2o9b2o20b2o9b2o9b2o!


Oops, it seems there's a lot of works ahead of me: there's so many options at depth=1, so I think I will need an SLMake, too.

So that collection have 2 push, 6 pull, 8 duplicate, 1 strange SL.
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x = 4, y = 6, rule = B2e3i4at/S1c23cijn4a
o2bo$4o3$4o$o2bo!
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Re: B2e3i4at/S1c23cijn4a

Postby simsim314 » April 15th, 2019, 5:45 pm

Some gun collection:

x = 1267, y = 517, rule = B2e3iq4at/S1c23cijn4a
57$34b2o2b2o$34bo4bo4$35b4o201b2o2b2o$35bo2bo201bo4bo$35bo2bo$36b2o3$
425b2o2b2o$34bob2obo385bo4bo$34bo4bo202b2o$35bo2bo202bo2bo$36b2o203bo
2bo$241b4o3$34bob2obo386b4o$34bo4bo386bo2bo$35bo2bo201bob2obo179bo4bo$
36b2o202b2o2b2o180bo2bo$241b4o182b2o3$34bob2obo$34bo4bo385bob2obo$35bo
2bo201bob2obo179bo4bo$36b2o202b2o2b2o180bo2bo361b2o2b2o$28b2o2b2o207b
4o182b2o362bo4bo$28bo2bo$32b2o758b4o$45b2o5b2o5b2o10b2o718b2o2b2o$28bo
15bo6bo6bo6b3o4bo352bob2obo360bo4bo$28b2o13bo2bo3bo2bo3bo2bo3bo2bo166b
2o3b2o2bobo179bo4bo$43bo2bo3bo2bo3bo2bo3bo2bo166bo4b3ob3o180bo2bo$44bo
6bo6bo6b3o4bo166b3ob2o182b2o363bo2bo$45b2o5b2o5b2o10b2o166b3o5b2o5b2o
5b2o14b2o513bo2bo279b2o2b2o$40bobo203b2o5b2o5b2o5b3o8bo514b2o280bo4bo$
40bobo203b3o4bobo4bobo4bo2bo805b4o$41bo211bobo4bobo4bo2bo148b2o4bo2bob
o645bo2bo$245b3o5b2o5b2o5b3o8bo140bo3bo2bo3bo644bob2obo$245b4o5b2o5b2o
14b2o144bo5bo361bob2obo278bo4bo$245b4o183b2o5b2o5b2o5bo8b2o327bo4bo$
425bo5bo6bo6bo6bob2o7bo328bo2bo$433bo3bo2bo3bo2bo3bo3bo337b2o$437bo2bo
3bo2bo3bo3bo620bo2bo$432bo5bo6bo6bob2o7bo612b4o$429bo3bo5b2o5b2o5bo8b
2o$791bob2obo$431b2o358bo4bo$792bo2bo$40bobo25b2o723b2o280bob2obo$40bo
bo26bo1005b2o2b2o$41bo204bobo827b4o$246b3o$276b2o346bo166bob2obo$68bo
208bo159bo185b2o166bo4bo$68b2o4b2o5b2o5b2o8b2o336bobo346b2o5bo2bo$68b
2o3b2o5b2o5b2o2bo7bo336bobo183b3o160bo7b2o280bob2obo$73bobo4bobo4bo2bo
bo128b2o208bobo188bob2o449b2o2b2o$73bobo4bobo4bo2bobo128bo209bobo190b
2o165b2o7b2o5b2o5b2o8b2o2b2o246b4o$67bo5b2o5b2o5b2o2bo7bo173b2o5b2o5b
2o5b2o10b2o124bo358bo7bo6bo6bo6b2o3b2o2bo$41bo25b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o8b2o
172b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o5bo490bo2bo3bo2bo3bo2bo3bo6bo$40bobo4b2o16b2o
204b3o5bobo4bobo4bobo4bobo495bo2bo3bo2bo3bo2bo3bo6bo$35bo2bo4bo3bo12b
3o3bo203b2o7bobo4bobo4bobo4bobo152b2o339bo2bo6bo6bo6b2o3b2o2bo$35b2ob
2ob2o4b2o12b2o128b2o10b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o43b3o7b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o5bo148bo338b
2o3b2o5b2o5b2o8b2o2b2o245bob2obo$191bo5b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o42bo10b2o5b
2o5b2o10b2o761b2o4b2o2b2o$196bobo4bobo4bobo4bobo5b3o32b2o807bo6b4o$
196bobo4bobo4bobo4bobo7b2o19bo11bo139b2o674b2o$62b4o125bo5b2o5b2o5b2o
5b2o7b3o18bo11b2o138bo221b2o4b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o7b2o3b2o403b2o6b2o5b2o
5b2o9b2o2b2o$61b2o2b2o124b2o10b2o5b2o5b2o10bo222b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o10b2o
135bo4b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o3bo3bo403bo6b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o5b2obo$61bob2o
bo170b2o11bobo17b4o179bo4bo6bo6bo6b3o4bo137bo2bobo4bobo4bobo4bobo4bobo
4bob3obo413bobo4bobo4bobo4bo5bobo$238bo13bo16b2o2b2o182bo2bo3bo2bo3bo
2bo3bo2bo141b2o2bobo4bobo4bobo4bobo4bobo4bob3obo412b2obo4bobo4bobo4bo
5bobo$237b2o11bo18bob2obo156bobo23bo2bo3bo2bo3bo2bo3bo2bo73b2o10b2o5b
2o5b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o9b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o3bo3bo260b2o2b2o142b
4o5b2o5b2o5b2o5b2obo$253bo116b2o10b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o26bobo14bo9bo6bo6bo6b
3o4bo68bo5b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o9b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o7b2o
3b2o260bo4bo141b2o2b2o5b2o5b2o9b2o2b2o$225b4o22b3o116bo5b2o5b2o5b2o5b
2o5b2o26bo15b2o9b2o5b2o5b2o10b2o73bobo4bobo4bobo4bobo4bobo4bobo4bobo4b
obo4bobo2b2o174bobo$62b4o158b2o2b2o145bobo4bobo4bobo4bobo5b3o13b2o17b
2o119bobo4bobo4bobo4bobo4bobo4bobo4bobo4bobo4bobo2bo175bobo$61b2o2b2o
157bob2obo145bobo4bobo4bobo4bobo7b2o12bo17bo116bo5b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o
5b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o4bo174bo$61bob2obo203b4o96bo5b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o7b3o30b2o
114b2o10b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o4b2o$269b2o2b2o95b2o10b2o5b2o5b
2o10bo41b2o$269bob2obo141b2o31bo2bo$417bo30bo4bo478bo4bo$225b4o187b2o
30bob2obo370b2o107bo2bo$62b4o158b2o2b2o595bo108b2o$61b2o2b2o157bob2obo
174b4o697b2o$61bo4bo203b4o129b2o2b2o523bo4bo143bobo22bo$63b2o204b2o2b
2o128bob2obo41b2o317b2o161b2o2b2o143b3o$62bo2bo203bob2obo174bo2bo167b
2o147bo$63b2o366b2o15bo4bo166b2obo197b2o3b2o5b2o5b2o7b2o3b2o194b2o52b
2o$225b4o200bob2o15bob2obo167b3o173bobo22bo2b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o3bo3bo194bo
$224b2o2b2o199b3o365bo2bo6b2o16bobo4bobo4bobo4bob3obo249bo3bo5b2o5b2o
5bo8b2o$224bob2obo174b4o392bo7bo16bobo4bobo4bobo4bob3obo252bo5bo6bo6bo
b2o7bo$270b4o129b2o2b2o330b2o10b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o4bobo15bo7b
2o5b2o5b2o5b2o3bo3bo254bo2bo3bo2bo3bo3bo$270bo2bo129bob2obo41b2o287bo
5b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o14b2o7b2o5b2o5b2o7b2o3b2o250bo3bo
2bo3bo2bo3bo3bo$61bo4bo204b2o176bo2bo291bobo4bobo4bobo4bobo4bobo4bobo
4bobo4bobo4bobo3b2o212b2o10b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o43bo5bo6bo6bo6bob2o7bo$61b2o
2b2o381bo4bo290bobo4bobo4bobo4bobo4bobo4bobo4bobo4bobo4bobo3bo213bo5b
2o5b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o49b2o5b2o5b2o5bo8b2o$225b4o219bob2obo285bo5b2o5b2o5b
2o5b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o3b2o10b4o203bobo4bobo4bobo4bobo5b3o11b2o15b
2o9bo5bo$225bo2bo510b2o10b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o15b2o2b2o202bo
bo4bobo4bobo4bobo7b2o10bo27bo2bo3bo$226b2o41bo4bo129b4o28bobo378bob2ob
o197bo5b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o7b3o24bo2bo11bo2bobo$269b2o2b2o128b2o2b2o27bobo
581b2o10b2o5b2o5b2o10bo25b2o$403bob2obo28bo12b2o614b2o13b3o$252bobo
194bo2bo167b2o150b2o2b2o289bo13b2o$224bo4bo22b3o194bo2bo167b2obo148bo
4bo288b2o12b2o18b2o$224b2o2b2o219b4o168b3o194b4o277bo2bo$817b2o2b2o
231b4o40bo4bo$404b4o29b2o378bob2obo230b2o2b2o39bob2obo$404bo2bo30bo
614bob2obo$40bobo362b2o41bo4bo$40bobo405b2o2b2o$41bo731b4o323b2o$772b
2o2b2o40b4o277bo2bo$403bo4bo363bob2obo39b2o2b2o231b4o40bo4bo$403b2o2b
2o408bob2obo230b2o2b2o39bob2obo$1053bob2obo$1080bobo$431bobo186b2o458b
3o$431bobo186b2obo149b4o17b2o304b2o$432bo188b3o148b2o2b2o16b2obo20b4o
277bo2bo$772bob2obo17b3o20bo2bo232b4o40bo4bo$819b2o232b2o2b2o40bo2bo$
817bob2obo230bob2obo40b4o$817bob2obo$818bo2bo$773b4o42b2o$773bo2bo$
774b2o41bo4bo231b4o$817b2o2b2o231bo2bo$1055b2o41bo4bo$1098b2o2b2o$252b
obo365b2o150bo4bo$252b3o176b2o187b2obo148b2o2b2o$429bob2o188b3o429bo4b
o$429b3o621b2o2b2o8$436bobo$436bobo$437bo$620b2o$620b2obo$621b3o11$
1080bobo$431bobo186b2o458b3o$431bobo186b2obo$432bo188b3o12$620b2o$431b
2o187b2obo170b2o$429bob2o188b3o170b2obo$429b3o363b3o8$436bobo$436bobo$
437bo$620b2o$620b2obo$621b3o11$1080bobo$431bobo186b2o458b3o$431bobo
186b2obo$432bo188b3o12$620b2o$431b2o187b2obo$429bob2o188b3o$429b3o8$
436bobo$436bobo$437bo$620b2o$620b2obo170b2o$621b3o170b2obo$795b3o10$
1080bobo$431bobo186b2o458b3o$431bobo186b2obo$432bo188b3o12$620b2o$431b
2o187b2obo$429bob2o188b3o$429b3o8$436bobo$436bobo$437bo$620b2o$620b2ob
o$621b3o11$1080bobo$431bobo186b2o458b3o$431bobo186b2obo170b2o$432bo
188b3o170b2obo$795b3o11$620b2o$431b2o187b2obo$429bob2o188b3o$429b3o8$
436bobo$436bobo$437bo$620b2o$620b2obo$621b3o11$1080bobo$431bobo186b2o
458b3o$431bobo186b2obo$432bo188b3o12$620b2o$431b2o187b2obo170b2o$429bo
b2o188b3o170b2obo$429b3o363b3o!
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Re: B2e3i4at/S1c23cijn4a

Postby LaundryPizza03 » May 9th, 2019, 8:32 am

Adding B7 to the original rule makes it apgsearchable and keeps the gun; the recommended haul size is around 5000 soups.
x = 46, y = 12, rule = B2e3i4at7/S1c23cijn4a
43b2o$42bo2bo5$o2bo$4o3$4o$o2bo!

Comparison to original:
x = 46, y = 12, rule = B2e3i4at/S1c23cijn4a
43b2o$42bo2bo5$o2bo$4o3$4o$o2bo!


I'm not sure about the Y-rule yet, since the explosions in that rule are due to the sheer abundance of linear growth that can readily interact with each other and make a huge mess, Star Wars-style.
x = 4, y = 30, rule = B2e3iq4at/S1c23cijn4ay
b2o$3bo$b2o2$b2o$3bo$3bo$2bo$2o14$2o$bo$bo$2o2$2o$2bo$2o!
x = 4, y = 3, rule = B3-q4z5y/S234k5j
2b2o$b2o$2o!

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