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Re: Guns in Life-like cellular automata

Postby BlinkerSpawn » January 7th, 2017, 5:13 pm

Naszvadi wrote:
Sokwe wrote:The alien guns collection has guns that work in all rules in the space B3/S23 - B378/S2378 except for B378/S23.
...
...This p27 oscillator might work:
p27 osc

...


First stable concatenation - still an oscillator:
rle

We're looking for something more like this, except without suicidal gliders:
x = 51, y = 30, rule = B378/S23
30b2o$31bo$7b2o22bobo$8bo23b2o$8bobo$9b2o$38b3o$50bo$15b3o13b3o2b2o4bo
5b3o$36bo5bo4bo$8b3o2b2o4bo9bo4b3o5bo4b2o$13bo5bo9bo5bobo2bo$6bo4b3o5b
o9bo9b2o$6bo5bobo2bo13bo2bo5b3o$6bo9b2o13b3o5bo2bo$8bo2bo5b3o13b2o9bo$
8b3o5bo2bo13bo2bobo5bo$10b2o9bo9bo5b3o4bo$10bo2bobo5bo9bo5bo$2b2o4bo5b
3o4bo9bo4b2o2b3o$3bo4bo5bo$3o5bo4b2o2b3o13b3o$o$10b3o$40b2o$40bobo$17b
2o23bo$17bobo22b2o$19bo$19b2o!

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Re: Guns in Life-like cellular automata

Postby Naszvadi » January 7th, 2017, 7:49 pm

BlinkerSpawn wrote:
Naszvadi wrote:
Sokwe wrote:The alien guns collection has guns that work in all rules in the space B3/S23 - B378/S2378 except for B378/S23.
...
...This p27 oscillator might work:
p27 osc

...


First stable concatenation - still an oscillator:
rle

We're looking for something more like this, except without suicidal gliders:
rle


What about inspecting the sparky p32 oscillator that used in the rake creation in this topic? A p160 oscillator is created using 8 copies of itself + 4 gliders:
x = 93, y = 107, rule = B378/S23
23bo$21b4o$21b2ob2o$20bo2b4o$21bo3bo$21bo2bo$23bo12$31bo$32bo$30b3o2$
2bobo$o2b4o$o2bo2bo$o2bo2bo$bo3bo$2b2o4$27bo$26bobo$26bob2o$26bobo2$
24b2o3$26bo$26bo2$10b3o$4bo4bo2bo$4bo6b2o$5bo3bo$7b2o11b3o$20bo$21bo
10$71bo$72bo$70b3o11b2o$83bo3bo$80b2o6bo$80bo2bo4bo$80b3o2$66bo$66bo3$
67b2o2$64bobo$63b2obo$64bobo$65bo4$89b2o$87bo3bo$86bo2bo2bo$86bo2bo2bo
$86b4o2bo$88bobo2$60b3o$60bo$61bo12$69bo$68bo2bo$67bo3bo$66b4o2bo$67b
2ob2o$68b4o$69bo!
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Re: Guns in Life-like cellular automata

Postby Naszvadi » January 20th, 2017, 5:35 pm

I would be glad if certain rules can be listed in https://catagolue.appspot.com/home. Reason: I am working on a common proof of universality of the rules B3[678]*/S23[678]* in my topic: http://conwaylife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=2597&start=0, so naturally occuring sparky oscillators would be handy for creating guns.

This is very poor list and denoted as incomplete: List_of_rules_investigated_on_Catagolue. The rules with important particles are missing from there, those particles are: B7, S6 and S7 respectively. So only B3[68]*/S23[8]* rules found, they are already proven to be universal.

Is there a way to gather all census rules with commits somehow, or selected ones with rule mask?
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Re: Guns in Life-like cellular automata

Postby Naszvadi » January 21st, 2017, 7:36 am

Naszvadi wrote:I would be glad if certain rules can be listed in https://catagolue.appspot.com/home.
... So only B3[68]*/S23[8]* rules found, they are already proven to be universal.

Is there a way to gather all census rules with commits somehow, or selected ones with rule mask?


Unfortunately, the only 8 rules in the catalogue that match the above pattern are: b368/s23 b368/s238 b36/s23 b36/s238 b38/s23 b38/s238 b3/s23 b3/s238

Some wgets in for loops pointed out them. :( They do exist in the catalogue with commits, but I am interested in the remaining 56 rules.
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Re: Guns in Life-like cellular automata

Postby Naszvadi » April 18th, 2017, 2:55 am

Wanted a gun, that

  • Works in life
  • Works in a totalistic rule other than B3/S23, B3/S238, B38/S23, B38/S238.
  • Some of the phases might differ, but the period, barrels should be the same.
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Re: Guns in Life-like cellular automata

Postby Naszvadi » September 6th, 2017, 3:32 pm

Not much progress, only a p120 (p30-compatible) gun were constructed in Highlife (works in B36/S238, too).
See here: ../forums/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=2332&p=50630#p50630
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