R-pentomino neutronium

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Re: R-pentomino neutronium

Post by BlinkerSpawn » July 24th, 2015, 3:41 pm

Glider duplicator, repeat time 146:

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x = 47, y = 47, rule = DoubleN
45.A$44.A$44.3A10$15.B$9.B10$5.2A7.B$6.A$6.3A5$C$B$.B3.3A$4.2A2.A4$8.
A$8.A.A$8.2A3$8.B$6.2A$6.CA$5.B$6.2C!
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Re: R-pentomino neutronium

Post by BlinkerSpawn » August 3rd, 2015, 11:21 am

More reflectors, including one with repeat time 21(!)

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x = 74, y = 18, rule = DoubleN
31.A19.A19.A$31.A.A17.A.A7.B9.A.A$31.2A18.2A18.2A$59.B$7.A10.C24.B$6.
A12.B18.B$6.3A12.B$23.B3$.A.A17.A.A17.A.A17.A.A$.2A14.B3.2A18.2A18.2A
$2.A19.A19.A19.A$2.B20.B19.B19.B$2A.C17.ACB17.2A18.2A$2A.C16.BCA18.CA
18.CA$2.B37.B19.B$2C39.2C18.2C!
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Re: R-pentomino neutronium

Post by Billabob » August 3rd, 2015, 12:08 pm

twinb7 wrote:Also, since Neutronium doesn't die it can easily replace the rotor of any oscillator.

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Pulsar with neutronium in the stator
Neutronium can also be used to replace the stators of unfinished oscillators too, which may help in the creation of more oscillators in regular Life, such as this:

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x = 7, y = 10, rule = Neutronium
2A3.2A$.A3.A$.A.A.A$2.B.B3$2.B.B$.A.A.A$.A3.A$2A3.2A!
EDIT: I had typed "rotor" instead of stator.
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Re: R-pentomino neutronium

Post by SuperSupermario24 » August 4th, 2015, 1:50 pm

Well this has certainly been an interesting set of rules.

If anyone is too lazy to figure out the DoubleN rule (which I don't see as likely considering that this is the Conway's Game of Life forum, but meh), here's what I've figured out:
  • The rule has two Neutronium states: red and blue.
  • Red neutronium is created and behaves in mostly the same way as the original rule; it is created when a live cell is surrounded by 8 non-dead (i.e. any state or combination of states that doesn't include dead cells) and acts like a live cell that (almost) never dies.
  • Blue neutronium is a bit different; it is created when a dead cell is surrounded by 8 non-dead cells, and does not participate in birth or survival (think the "blocker" state from extendedlife).
  • Both states die under the same conditions: when it is surrounded by 8 non-dead cells. Red turns into a regular alive cell, while blue turns into a dead cell.
tl;dr: The red one acts like an alive cell that almost never dies, and the blue one acts like a dead cell that almost never goes away.

I'm terrible at engineering useful patterns (read: have almost never tried and have no idea how), but here's some stuff I found while messing around with the rule:

I originally found this by using blocks, but I soon found that you could achieve the same effect by using single cells (though since this is also trivial to make in extendedlife this probably isn't new):

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x = 13, y = 9, rule = DoubleN
A2.A$4.A$A3.A7.B$.4A5$5.B!
And here's something where I have no idea what's going on:

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x = 23, y = 17, rule = DoubleN
20.A$20.A.A$20.2A4$11B$BCACACACACB$BACACACACAB$BCACACACACB$BACACACACA
B$BCACACACACB$BACACACACAB$BCACACACACB$BACACACACAB$BCACACACACB$11B!
It's difficult to do stuff with the red cells since patterns I try to make with them tend to explode XD

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bobo2b3o2b2o2bo3bobo$obobobo3bo2bobo3bobo$obobob2o2bo2bobo3bobo$o3bobo3bo2bobobobo$o3bob3o2b2o3bobo2bo!

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Re: R-pentomino neutronium

Post by BlinkerSpawn » August 29th, 2015, 11:15 am

14-cell p43 gun:

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x = 8, y = 7, rule = DoubleN
2.B4.B$A.AB$3.A$3.A2$2.C.CB$CBCB!
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Re: R-pentomino neutronium

Post by danieldb » October 21st, 2015, 7:46 pm

I have something cool to do with this rule: find out the smallest of odd period oscillators that can spawn from only neutronium cells, like this p94:

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x = 5, y = 3, rule = Neutronium
2B$B3.B$3.2B!
Or a p56 predecessor:

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x = 6, y = 6, rule = Neutronium
2.3B$B2.B$2B3.B$B3.2B$2.B2.B$.3B!
Edit: P165 predecessor

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x = 6, y = 6, rule = Neutronium
3.B$2.B$B.3B$.3B.B$3.B$2.B!
Also somebody should make a rule like this where:

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* * *
    *
* * *
makes a neutronium. also a highlife wariant.

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Re: R-pentomino neutronium

Post by PHPBB12345 » May 24th, 2016, 10:07 pm

static neutronium rule table:

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@RULE StaticNeutronium
@TABLE
n_states:3
neighborhood:Moore
symmetries:permute
var a={1,2}
var b={1,2}
var c={1,2}
var d={1,2}
var e={1,2}
var f={1,2}
var g={1,2}
var h={1,2}

0,a,b,c,0,0,0,0,0,1
1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
1,a,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
1,a,b,c,d,0,0,0,0,0
1,a,b,c,d,e,0,0,0,0
1,a,b,c,d,e,f,0,0,0
1,a,b,c,d,e,f,g,0,0
1,a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,0 
@COLORS
0 48 48 48
1 255 255 255
2 255 0 0

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Re: R-pentomino neutronium

Post by lifeisawesome » May 25th, 2016, 8:03 am

The static neutronium from your rule works exactly the same as an ExtendedLife "reactor".

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x = 5, y = 5, rule = StaticNeutronium
2.A.B$.A.A$.A.A$2.A$B!

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x = 5, y = 5, rule = ExtendedLife
2.A.F$.A.A$.A.A$2.A$F!
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favorite pattern:

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x = 2, y = 2, rule = B25/S3a
2o$2o!

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Re: R-pentomino neutronium

Post by muzik » May 25th, 2016, 8:20 am

Seeing these comparisons gives me an idea. Why not every live cell surrounded by eight cells becomes indefinitely alive (neutronium), and every dead cell surrounded by eight cells becomes indefinitely dead (extendedlife blocker)?


So I'm not completely off topic, here's infinite growth in 2G:

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x = 12, y = 5, rule = Neutronium
9.A.A$9.2A$A.A7.A$.2A$.A!

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Re: R-pentomino neutronium

Post by muzik » August 26th, 2016, 4:04 pm

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x = 12, y = 12, rule = Neutronium
5.2A$6.2A$6.2A$4.4A$.3AB.2BA$4A3B.A2.A$A2.A.3B4A$3.A2B.B3A$4.4A$4.2A$
4.2A$5.2A!

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Re: R-pentomino neutronium

Post by Rhombic » August 27th, 2016, 6:04 am

I really liked Alexey Nigin's DoubleN, but I tend to have an issue with easily exploding rules.

My rule, NeutroniumByMajority, behaves similarly to DoubleN, but deaths of the red and blue states are triggered by 5, 6, 7 or 8 neighbours instead of only 8.

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@RULE NeutroniumByMajority

Based on Alexey Nigin's DoubleN, but with blue and red neutronium deaths triggered by 5, 6, 7 or 8 neighbours.

@TABLE

n_states:4
neighborhood:Moore
symmetries:permute

var a1={0,1,2,3}
var a2=a1
var a3=a1
var a4=a1
var a5=a1
var a6=a1
var a7=a1
var a8=a1
var o1={1,3}
var o2=o1
var o3=o1
var b1={0,2}
var b2=b1
var b3=b1
var b4=b1
var b5=b1
var f1={1,2,3}
var f2=f1
var f3=f1
var f4=f1
var f5=f1
var f6=f1
var f7=f1
var f8=f1
var x={0,1}

0,f1,f2,f3,f4,f5,f6,f7,f8,2
1,f1,f2,f3,f4,f5,f6,f7,f8,3
2,f1,f2,f3,f4,f5,a1,a2,a3,0
3,f1,f2,f3,f4,f5,a1,a2,a3,1

0,o1,o2,o3,b1,b2,b3,b4,b5,1
1,o1,o2,a1,b1,b2,b3,b4,b5,1

x,a1,a2,a3,a4,a5,a6,a7,a8,0

@COLORS

0  48  48  48
1 255 255 255
2  32  32 255
3 255  16  16
While there are a few methuselae, there is no explosive growth as far as I know:

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x = 9, y = 22, rule = NeutroniumByMajority
7.A$6.A$6.3A17$3A$A.A$A.A!
3G synthesis of blue:

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x = 18, y = 22, rule = NeutroniumByMajority
17.A$15.2A$16.2A15$7.3A$7.A$.2A5.A$A.A$2.A!
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Re: R-pentomino neutronium

Post by wwei23 » July 9th, 2017, 3:02 pm

Symbiosis, is a rule similar to neutronium in that some cells never die. These are the cells that have neighbors of a different color. But, cells of a different color cannot cause birth. The dilemma is, symbiosis or not?

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@RULE Symbiosis

@TABLE

n_states:3
neighborhood:Moore
symmetries:permute
1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
1,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
0,1,1,1,0,0,0,0,0,1
1,1,1,1,1,0,0,0,0,0
1,1,1,1,1,1,0,0,0,0
1,1,1,1,1,1,1,0,0,0
1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,0,0
1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,0
2,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
2,2,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
0,2,2,2,0,0,0,0,0,2
2,2,2,2,2,0,0,0,0,0
2,2,2,2,2,2,0,0,0,0
2,2,2,2,2,2,2,0,0,0
2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,0,0
2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,0

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Re: R-pentomino neutronium

Post by wwei23 » July 9th, 2017, 3:14 pm

EternalDeath balances the explosivitivity of Neutronium with its own ending, BlackDeath1.

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@RULE EternalDeath
@TABLE
n_states:4
neighborhood:Moore
symmetries:permute
var a={1,2}
var b={1,2}
var c={1,2}
var d={1,2}
var e={1,2}
var f={1,2}
var g={1,2}
var h={1,2}
var A={0,3}
var B={0,3}
var C={0,3}
var D={0,3}
var E={0,3}
var F={0,3}
var G={0,3}
var H={0,3}

0,a,b,c,A,B,C,D,E,1
1,A,B,C,D,E,F,G,H,3
1,a,A,B,C,D,E,F,G,0
1,a,b,c,d,A,B,C,D,0
1,a,b,c,d,e,A,B,C,0
1,a,b,c,d,e,f,A,B,0
1,a,b,c,d,e,f,g,A,0
1,a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,2 
@COLORS
0 48 48 48
1 255 255 255
2 255 0 0
3 0 0 0
BlackDeath1:

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@RULE BlackDeath1
@TABLE
n_states:3
neighborhood:Moore
symmetries:permute
var A={0,2}
var B={0,2}
var C={0,2}
var D={0,2}
var E={0,2}
var F={0,2}
var G={0,2}
var H={0,2}

0,1,1,1,A,B,C,D,E,1
1,A,B,C,D,E,F,G,H,2
1,1,A,B,C,D,E,F,G,0
1,1,1,1,1,A,B,C,D,0
1,1,1,1,1,1,A,B,C,0
1,1,1,1,1,1,1,A,B,0
1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,A,0
1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,0
@COLORS
0 48 48 48
1 255 255 255
2 0 0 0
BlackDeath2:

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@RULE BlackDeath2
@TABLE
n_states:3
neighborhood:Moore
symmetries:permute
var A={0,2}
var B={0,2}
var C={0,2}
var D={0,2}
var E={0,2}
var F={0,2}
var G={0,2}
var H={0,2}

0,1,1,1,A,B,C,D,E,1
0,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2
1,A,B,C,D,E,F,G,H,0
1,1,A,B,C,D,E,F,G,0
1,1,1,1,1,A,B,C,D,0
1,1,1,1,1,1,A,B,C,0
1,1,1,1,1,1,1,A,B,0
1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,A,0
1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,0
@COLORS
0 48 48 48
1 255 255 255
2 0 0 0
EternalDeath2 does the same with BlackDeath2.

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@RULE EternalDeath2
@TABLE
n_states:4
neighborhood:Moore
symmetries:permute
var a={1,2}
var b={1,2}
var c={1,2}
var d={1,2}
var e={1,2}
var f={1,2}
var g={1,2}
var h={1,2}
var A={0,3}
var B={0,3}
var C={0,3}
var D={0,3}
var E={0,3}
var F={0,3}
var G={0,3}
var H={0,3}

0,a,b,c,A,B,C,D,E,1
0,a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,3
1,A,B,C,D,E,F,G,H,0
1,a,A,B,C,D,E,F,G,0
1,a,b,c,d,A,B,C,D,0
1,a,b,c,d,e,A,B,C,0
1,a,b,c,d,e,f,A,B,0
1,a,b,c,d,e,f,g,A,0
1,a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,2 
@COLORS
0 48 48 48
1 255 255 255
2 255 0 0
3 0 0 0
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Re: R-pentomino neutronium

Post by 83bismuth38 » July 9th, 2017, 3:25 pm

neat oscillator:

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x = 18, y = 6, rule = extendedlife
8.A.2A.2A$5.2A4.A3.A$3.AFEB.EDA.EB$5.F.F.ACDAFD.AC$2.2CB2.D.2E4.D$E2.
14E!
looking to support hive five (n+18) and charity's oboo reaction (2n+18)

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x = 28, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
19bo$3bo15bo4b2o$2bobo14bo4bobo$2bobo20b2o$3bo11b3o2$25b3o$b2o22b3o$o
2bo$b2o12b2o$10b2o2bobo$bo8b2o2b2o$obo7b2o!

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Re: R-pentomino neutronium

Post by Saka » July 9th, 2017, 7:33 pm

83bismuth38 wrote:neat oscillator:

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x = 18, y = 6, rule = extendedlife
8.A.2A.2A$5.2A4.A3.A$3.AFEB.EDA.EB$5.F.F.ACDAFD.AC$2.2CB2.D.2E4.D$E2.
14E!
Since when was this the thread for extendedlife?

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Re: R-pentomino neutronium

Post by BlinkerSpawn » July 9th, 2017, 8:38 pm

Saka wrote:
83bismuth38 wrote:neat oscillator:

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x = 18, y = 6, rule = extendedlife
8.A.2A.2A$5.2A4.A3.A$3.AFEB.EDA.EB$5.F.F.ACDAFD.AC$2.2CB2.D.2E4.D$E2.
14E!
Since when was this the thread for extendedlife?
Extendedlife patterns are perfectly acceptable as long as they can be translated (w/ appropriate state changes where needed) into one of the neutronium rules in this thread (i.e. no birthforcers, deathforcers, or birth-deathforcers).
Also, see this post:
Billabob wrote:
twinb7 wrote:Also, since Neutronium doesn't die it can easily replace the rotor of any oscillator.

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Pulsar with neutronium in the stator
Neutronium can also be used to replace the stators of unfinished oscillators too, which may help in the creation of more oscillators in regular Life, such as this:

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x = 7, y = 10, rule = Neutronium
2A3.2A$.A3.A$.A.A.A$2.B.B3$2.B.B$.A.A.A$.A3.A$2A3.2A!
EDIT: I had typed "rotor" instead of stator.
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Re: R-pentomino neutronium

Post by wwei23 » July 30th, 2017, 3:20 pm

You have heard of my Symbiosis P19, right? Also, as far as I can tell, it has no Neutronium counterpart.

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Re: R-pentomino neutronium

Post by wwei23 » July 30th, 2017, 3:31 pm

twinb7 wrote:Very small pipsquirter:

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x = 4, y = 5, rule = Neutronium
.2A$.B.A$3B$.B.A$.2A!
Smaller:

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x = 3, y = 5, rule = Symbiosis
2A$B.A$.A$B.A$2A!

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Re: R-pentomino neutronium

Post by wwei23 » July 30th, 2017, 3:51 pm

Fairly amusing:

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x = 22, y = 7, rule = Neutronium
9.A.A$9.A2.A$12.2A$2B8.A3.2A4.2B$2B10.2A6.2B$9.A2.A$9.A.A!
Back and forth...
Back and forth...
Back and forth...
Back-BOOM!!!

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Re: R-pentomino neutronium

Post by testitemqlstudop » August 5th, 2017, 8:41 pm

Woe to the stubborn eater that does not heed two warnings:

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x = 16, y = 16, rule = Neutronium
.A$2.A$3A2$5.A$6.A$4.3A2$9.A$10.A$8.3A2$12.2B$12.B.B$14.B$14.2B!

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Re: R-pentomino neutronium

Post by testitemqlstudop » August 5th, 2017, 8:55 pm

6 neutronium cells evolve into a p3 "pentadecthalon" with the same sparks as the pentadecthalon :

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x = 6, y = 1, rule = neutronium
6B!
Also, sparker:

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x = 7, y = 1, rule = neutronium
7B!
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Re: R-pentomino neutronium

Post by wwei23 » August 5th, 2017, 8:59 pm

testitemqlstudop wrote:6 neutronium cells evolve into a p3 "pentadecthalon" with the same sparks as the pentadecthalon:

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x = 6, y = 1, rule = neutronium
6B!
In Symbiosis:

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x = 8, y = 3, rule = Symbiosis
B6.B$8B$2.A2.A!

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Re: Neutronium

Post by unname551 » July 1st, 2023, 2:40 am

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@RULE B3-S245-Neutronium
@TABLE
n_states:3
neighborhood:Moore
symmetries:permute
var a={0,1,2}
var b={0,1,2}
var c={0,1,2}
var d={0,1,2}
var e={0,1,2}
var f={0,1,2}
var g={0,1,2}
var h={0,1,2}
var Aa={1,2}
var Ab={1,2}
var Ac={1,2}
var Ad={1,2}
var Ae={1,2}
var Af={1,2}
var Ag={1,2}
var Ah={1,2}
var Ai={1,2}
0,Aa,Ab,Ac,0,0,0,0,0,1
Aa,Ab,Ac,0,0,0,0,0,0,Aa
Aa,Ab,Ac,Ad,Ae,0,0,0,0,Aa
Aa,Ab,Ac,Ad,Ae,Af,0,0,0,Aa
Aa,Ab,Ac,Ad,Ae,Af,Ag,Ah,Ai,2
1,a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,0
@COLORS
0 0 0 0
1 0 0 255
2 0 255 0
Example pattern:

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x = 0, y = 0, rule = B3-S245-Neutronium
64A!
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Re: R-pentomino neutronium

Post by hotcrystal0 » August 4th, 2023, 9:46 pm

Neut4Annh2 is a rule designed to be similar to Neutronium but with two states that both individually emulate Life.

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 x = 45, y = 36, rule = Neut4Annh2
.A$.2A$2A31$43.B$42.3B$41.2B!
When a dead or live cell has exactly four neighbors and at least 1 is a different state(that isn’t that state’s neutronium), it creates neutronium. If there is one of a state and three of the other, then majority wins and the neutronium is the color of the state that had more. If there are two of each, then state 5 is made. State 5 becomes neutronium that is the same color as the state that first touched it. The states kill each other in all other cases where they touch.

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 x = 41, y = 9, rule = Neut4Annh2
27.A10.B$25.2A11.B.B$26.2A10.2B4$2B4.2B4.AB$23.E11.E$.AB4.2A4.2A!
Note that neutronium only survives if it has no neutronic neighbors.

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 x = 20, y = 8, rule = Neut4Annh2
14.D$12.D.D$C.D3.CD5.2D$16.2D$16.D.D$18.D$3.2C13.2D$3.2C!

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x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
33$42b4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o3$41b2o$39bo6bo$38bo8bo$38bo8bo$38b9o3$42b
4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o!

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Re: R-pentomino neutronium

Post by Disaster16439 » August 4th, 2023, 10:42 pm

hotcrystal0 wrote:
August 4th, 2023, 9:46 pm
Neut4Annh2 is a rule designed to be similar to Neutronium but with two states that both individually emulate Life.

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 x = 45, y = 36, rule = Neut4Annh2
.A$.2A$2A31$43.B$42.3B$41.2B!
When a dead or live cell has exactly four neighbors and at least 1 is a different state(that isn’t that state’s neutronium), it creates neutronium. If there is one of a state and three of the other, then majority wins and the neutronium is the color of the state that had more. If there are two of each, then state 5 is made. State 5 becomes neutronium that is the same color as the state that first touched it. The states kill each other in all other cases where they touch.

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 x = 41, y = 9, rule = Neut4Annh2
27.A10.B$25.2A11.B.B$26.2A10.2B4$2B4.2B4.AB$23.E11.E$.AB4.2A4.2A!
Note that neutronium only survives if it has no neutronic neighbors.

Code: Select all

 x = 20, y = 8, rule = Neut4Annh2
14.D$12.D.D$C.D3.CD5.2D$16.2D$16.D.D$18.D$3.2C13.2D$3.2C!
It should survive. The rule is not finished yet
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