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Soup search results in rules other than Conway's Life

Postby codeholic » February 28th, 2015, 3:46 pm

HighLife's p8:
x = 32, y = 31, rule = B36/S23
4bo2bo2b3o6b3o2bo2bo$3bobobobob2obo2bob2obobobobo$b2obobobo3b2ob2ob2o
3bobobob2o$2b2o4bob2ob2o2b2ob2obo4b2o$2b2o2b8o4b8o2b2o$4b3obo3bobo2bob
o3bob3o$2obo3bob4ob4ob4obo3bob2o$bo3bob2o2bobob2obobo2b2obo3bo$bo4bo6b
6o6bo4bo$b2o2b2obob3obo2bob3obob2o2b2o$2b7obob2ob2ob2obob7o$2b4o2bo5b
4o5bo2b4o$obo3bob2ob3o4b3ob2obo3bobo$6obo2b12o2bob6o$o3bobob4o3b2o3b4o
bobo3bo$2bobo2bo2b4o4b4o2bo2bobo$o3bobob4o3b2o3b4obobo3bo$6obo2b12o2bo
b6o$obo3bob2ob3o4b3ob2obo3bobo$2b4o2bo5b4o5bo2b4o$2b7obob2ob2ob2obob7o
$b2o2b2obob3obo2bob3obob2o2b2o$bo4bo6b6o6bo4bo$bo3bob2o2bobob2obobo2b
2obo3bo$2obo3bob4ob4ob4obo3bob2o$4b3obo3bobo2bobo3bob3o$2b2o2b8o4b8o2b
2o$2b2o4bob2ob2o2b2ob2obo4b2o$b2obobobo3b2ob2ob2o3bobobob2o$3bobobobob
2obo2bob2obobobobo$4bo2bo2b3o6b3o2bo2bo!
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Re: Soup search results in rules other than Conway's Life

Postby Kazyan » February 28th, 2015, 10:15 pm

As I mentioned in the Unrecognized CA thread, here's the soup that makes a p3 c/3 ship in B34/S26.

x = 16, y = 16, rule = B34/S26
3o2b2obo3bo$o2bobo2b2ob4o$o3b2ob2ob2o3bo$bo3b4ob2obo$2ob3o2bo2bob2o$bo
b2o2b6o2bo$4ob4ob2ob3o$o6b3o2bo2bo$4bobo3bob3o$b2ob2ob2o3bob2o$4o4b2ob
2o2bo$3b5obobob2o$b2o2bob2obob2o$2bo2bo2bob2o2bo$2ob3o3bobob3o$obob6ob
o2bo!
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Re: Soup search results in rules other than Conway's Life

Postby gameoflifeboy » March 3rd, 2015, 10:48 pm

I noticed an interesting effect in the b36/s125 (2x2) soups in the catagolue.
Longer versions of this wick:
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#C [[ VIEWONLY ZOOM 16 ]]
x = 16, y = 7, rule = B36/S125
o3bo4bo$bo3bo4bo$6bo4bo$7bo4bo$13bo$14bo$15bo!

appear significantly less often than shorter versions, and are in fact the rarest still life WITH their number of cells -- at least until you reach about length 9 when the probability of the wick being created by a wickstretcher starts exceeding the probability of it occurring spontaniously. Then the probability of an n-length wick only slightly exceeds the probability of an n-1 length wick; in fact, the maximum length occurring in the Catagolue is 23 (!) and is probably the most common 2x2 still life that has 23 cells.
I hypothesized this effect would eventually happen in Life -- after natural boat/tubstretchers started occurring -- but it's happening in 2x2 now because that rule has a relatively common natural wickstretcher.
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Re: Soup search results in rules other than Conway's Life

Postby wildmyron » March 3rd, 2015, 11:24 pm

After some concerted CPU effort, a puffer has emerged from a soup in B36/S245. It moves at 28c/1200 and is very similar to the replicator - it comprises two interacting shuttles but they are offset in space and time. It is detected as yl1200_1_16_e49e8812cafb8e3c299f15f4178845dc by apgsearch.
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x = 16, y = 16, rule = B36/S245
bo3b3o3b5o$3bobo2b2o4bo$b3ob2o2bo5bo$obobob5o4bo$2o2bo2b4o3b2o$3bob2ob
2ob3o$b2o4b3obobobo$bob2o2bo2b3o2bo$3b3ob2o6bo$bo4b2o3bob3o$4bo3b3obob
2o$2o2bo5b5o$o3b3ob3o3b2o$5bob3obo$ob2obo2b2o3bobo$b2ob5o2bo!
#C [[ THUMBNAIL ZOOM 4 ]]

Alas, no replicator yet, though one advantage of searching this rule is that the search runs considerably faster because it dies out often and stabilises very quickly.
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Re: Soup search results in rules other than Conway's Life

Postby gameoflifeboy » March 8th, 2015, 7:58 pm

I was looking through B38S23/d8_4 soups and found this infinite growth:
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#C [[ ZOOM 1 THEME 5 ]]
x = 32, y = 32, rule = B38/S23
obo2bo20bo2bobo$bob3ob3o3b2o2b2o3b3ob3obo$o4bobo5bob2obo5bobo4bo$bob2o
b3ob2obob2obob2ob3ob2obo$bob2o2bob3obob2obob3obo2b2obo$3o2b4o5b4o5b4o
2b3o$3bob10o2b10obo$b8ob2o8b2ob8o$bobob5ob2ob4ob2ob5obobo$bo2bobob5ob
4ob5obobo2bo$3b2ob2ob3o8b3ob2ob2o$3b2ob6o8b6ob2o$6bob2o3bo4bo3b2obo$b
4obo5bobo2bobo5bob4o$bo3b2ob2o3bob2obo3b2ob2o3bo$2b4o2b2o4b4o4b2o2b4o$
2b4o2b2o4b4o4b2o2b4o$bo3b2ob2o3bob2obo3b2ob2o3bo$b4obo5bobo2bobo5bob4o
$6bob2o3bo4bo3b2obo$3b2ob6o8b6ob2o$3b2ob2ob3o8b3ob2ob2o$bo2bobob5ob4ob
5obobo2bo$bobob5ob2ob4ob2ob5obobo$b8ob2o8b2ob8o$3bob10o2b10obo$3o2b4o
5b4o5b4o2b3o$bob2o2bob3obob2obob3obo2b2obo$bob2ob3ob2obob2obob2ob3ob2o
bo$o4bobo5bob2obo5bobo4bo$bob3ob3o3b2o2b2o3b3ob3obo$obo2bo20bo2bobo!


I guess I wouldn't be the "discoverer" because the hauls weren't uploaded by me, but is this the first infinite growth in B38S23 that doesn't work in Life?
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Re: Soup search results in rules other than Conway's Life

Postby calcyman » March 8th, 2015, 8:43 pm

I guess I wouldn't be the "discoverer" because the hauls weren't uploaded by me,


It's not clear who should get the credit for these discoveries. It's either Josh Ball (who initiated the search), apgsearch (which identified it as zz_LINEAR), or you (the first human to actually notice what had happened). This is not unlike the discovery that 2^42643801 - 1 is prime, which was performed by a machine on 2009-04-12 but only noticed by a human a couple of months later (2009-06-04).

This invokes the question as to whether there are more unusual occurrences noticed by apgsearch and lying in the uncharted depths of Catagolue?

but is this the first infinite growth in B38S23 that doesn't work in Life?


Maybe. Can one engineer a 31c/589 spaceship from this puffer?
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Re: Soup search results in rules other than Conway's Life

Postby velcrorex » March 8th, 2015, 9:21 pm

It's hard to say who noticed it first. I saw the zz_LINEAR pattern come up and I ran it, but I wasn't sure if this was a known pattern or not. Sometimes it's hard to keep track of what's known in different rules.
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Re: Soup search results in rules other than Conway's Life

Postby dvgrn » March 8th, 2015, 10:06 pm

gameoflifeboy wrote:I was looking through B38S23/d8_4 soups and found this infinite growth...

Nice one. I love the unusual kaleidoscope effect in the center, from the eight internal glider streams. It's too bad it falls prey to a glider-block cycle at a mere 197267 ticks.
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Re: Soup search results in rules other than Conway's Life

Postby velcrorex » March 9th, 2015, 7:32 am

A p23 oscillator in B3/S238. I guess it's too common to have any sample soups listed?

x = 18, y = 18, rule = B3/S238
5bo6bo$4b2o6b2o$5b2o4b2o2$bo14bo$3o12b3o$2bo12bo5$2bo12bo$3o12b3o$bo
14bo2$5b2o4b2o$4b2o6b2o$5bo6bo!
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Re: Soup search results in rules other than Conway's Life

Postby Gustavo6046 » March 9th, 2015, 1:35 pm

I tried in life. The result was the rule changed inadvertently.
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Re: Soup search results in rules other than Conway's Life

Postby Scorbie » March 10th, 2015, 4:19 am

gameoflifeboy wrote:is this the first infinite growth in B38S23 that doesn't work in Life?
Not to disappoint you, but there is a p424 alien gun discovered quite in the past...
http://www.conwaylife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=1069&p=7707&hilit=b38%2Fs23#p7707

But real congrats for the discovery!
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Re: Soup search results in rules other than Conway's Life

Postby Gustavo6046 » March 10th, 2015, 1:15 pm

Trying this in Seeds does nothing more than neverending mess!
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Re: Soup search results in rules other than Conway's Life

Postby Kazyan » March 10th, 2015, 2:03 pm

Gustavo6046 wrote:Trying this in Seeds does nothing more than neverending mess!


Seeds is an "exploding" rule, which gives messes like that. I think every B2 rule is like that. Generally, the interesting rules have B3 and any combination of B5, B6, B7, and B8. B4 usually explodes or becomes uninteresting; the only interesting rule with B4 I know if is B34/S26 (and its close relatives).
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Re: Soup search results in rules other than Conway's Life

Postby Gustavo6046 » March 10th, 2015, 2:07 pm

Nonetheless I (almost) knew that, but had every pattern to be really such unstable, other than the photon, moon and photon-siamese-moon?
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Re: Soup search results in rules other than Conway's Life

Postby gameoflifeboy » March 10th, 2015, 5:28 pm

Scorbie wrote:
gameoflifeboy wrote:is this the first infinite growth in B38S23 that doesn't work in Life?
Not to disappoint you, but there is a p424 alien gun discovered quite in the past...
http://www.conwaylife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=1069&p=7707&hilit=b38%2Fs23#p7707

But real congrats for the discovery!

Thanks!
I just saw the glider gun yesterday, but I didn't know that it was discovered before apgsearch too. In my opinion it is even more interesting than the puffer.
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Re: Soup search results in rules other than Conway's Life

Postby A for awesome » March 10th, 2015, 6:09 pm

A for awesome wrote:A c/2 ship based on the puffer here:
x = 86, y = 93, rule = B35/S23
5$38bo$36b2obo31b3o$34b3o3bo18bo10b4o$33bobo3bo19bo9b4o3b2o$33b4o20bo
2bo6bob3o5b2o$36b2obo17b2ob4o2b4o3b2ob2o$37bobobobo14bo4bo9b4o$41bo17b
ob2o11bo$17b3o21bo19bo$16bo2bo17b3o2bobo15b3o$16bo2b2o17bo21b3o$15bo3b
o20bo4b2o14bo$15bo2bo20b2o3bo2bo11bob2o11bo$17b2o19bo8b2o9bo4bo9b4o$
16bo22bob4ob3obo6b2ob4o2b4o3b2ob2o$16bo24b6o10bo2bo6bob3o5b2o$41b4o6bo
7bo9b4o3b2o$51bo7bo10b4o$49b2o20b3o$49bo$48bo$48bo$59b2o8bo6b3o$58bo2b
3o4b2o4bo2bob2o$58b3o2b2o4bo3bo6bo$57b2o3bob2ob3o3bo6bo$58b8o2b2o3b4o
2bo$19bo39bo2bobo3bo8bo$19bo40b4o$18b3o14b3o24bo$62bo$33bo5bo20b4o$20b
o12bo5bo5bo13bo2bobo3bo8bo$11bo21bo5bo3bo2bo11b8o2b2o3b4o2bo$9b3o3bo
27bo13b2o3bob2ob3o3bo6bo$14b3o18b3o4bo4bo10b3o2b2o4bo3bo6bo$9bo2b6o23b
2ob4o10bo2b3o4b2o4bo2bob2o$12bo4b2o22bo2b3o12b2o8bo6b3o$10bo2b5o24b2ob
2o$13b2obo26b2o$10bob3o5$10bob3o$13b2obo26b2o$10bo2b5o24b2ob2o$12bo4b
2o22bo2b3o12b2o8bo6b3o$9bo2b6o23b2ob4o10bo2b3o4b2o4bo2bob2o$14b3o18b3o
4bo4bo10b3o2b2o4bo3bo6bo$9b3o3bo27bo13b2o3bob2ob3o3bo6bo$11bo21bo5bo3b
o2bo11b8o2b2o3b4o2bo$20bo12bo5bo5bo13bo2bobo3bo8bo$33bo5bo20b4o$62bo$
18b3o14b3o24bo$19bo40b4o$19bo39bo2bobo3bo8bo$58b8o2b2o3b4o2bo$57b2o3bo
b2ob3o3bo6bo$58b3o2b2o4bo3bo6bo$58bo2b3o4b2o4bo2bob2o$59b2o8bo6b3o$48b
o$48bo$49bo$49b2o20b3o$51bo7bo10b4o$41b4o6bo7bo9b4o3b2o$16bo24b6o10bo
2bo6bob3o5b2o$16bo22bob4ob3obo6b2ob4o2b4o3b2ob2o$17b2o19bo8b2o9bo4bo9b
4o$15bo2bo20b2o3bo2bo11bob2o11bo$15bo3bo20bo4b2o14bo$16bo2b2o17bo21b3o
$16bo2bo17b3o2bobo15b3o$17b3o21bo19bo$41bo17bob2o11bo$37bobobobo14bo4b
o9b4o$36b2obo17b2ob4o2b4o3b2ob2o$33b4o20bo2bo6bob3o5b2o$33bobo3bo19bo
9b4o3b2o$34b3o3bo18bo10b4o$36b2obo31b3o$38bo!

A much smaller ship, using only 2 engines:
x = 32, y = 19, rule = B35/S23
15bo$2bobo9bob2o$2o2b2o7b2o10bo$obo10b2o2bo5bo2bo$4o9b2obo5bo$2bo11b2o
6bo3bo2b3o$3bo6bob2o8bo3bob2obo$12bo12b2obo2bo$29b2o$26b2o2$7b3ob3o11b
o$6bo2bo4bo8bo2bo$13b2o3b2o2bo$6bo6bo7b2o3bo2b3o$7bo9bob2obo3bob2obo$
8bobo6bo2bo4b2obo2bo$9bo8bobo8b2o$26b2o!

P.S. I posted the original ship elsewhere because this topic did not exist at the time, but since it now exists, I decided to post it here this time.
Edit: a similar ship in B358/S238:
x = 92, y = 46, rule = B358/S238
59bo$59bo2$63bo$59bo2bobo$57b7o15bo$57b2o4bo13b4o$58b3o16bob3o$54bo3b
3o19bo$35bo18bo6b3o$31b5obo22b3o$31bobo3bo20bob5o2bo$31bo4bo28b2o$28b
3obobob3o20b3o2bo4bo$10bo16bobo3b2obob2o21b3o4bo13bobo$2b3o4bobo16bob
2o2b2o29b3o13bo$2obo2bo6bo15b3o2bobobo43bobo4b2o$o6bob2o3bo14bo5bobo
45bo4bo$o6bo6bo15bo4bo26bo2bo23bobo$bo2b4o4b3o17b3o26b3obo20b2obobo$3b
o56b2o2b2o20bo2bo$60bo25b2ob2o$58b3o27b3o$58b3o27b3o$60bo25b2ob2o$3bo
56b2o2b2o20bo2bo$bo2b4o4b3o17b3o26b3obo20b2obobo$o6bo6bo15bo4bo26bo2bo
23bobo$o6bob2o3bo14bo5bobo45bo4bo$2obo2bo6bo15b3o2bobobo43bobo4b2o$2b
3o4bobo16bob2o2b2o29b3o13bo$10bo16bobo3b2obob2o21b3o4bo13bobo$28b3obob
ob3o20b3o2bo4bo$31bo4bo28b2o$31bobo3bo20bob5o2bo$31b5obo22b3o$35bo18bo
6b3o$54bo3b3o19bo$58b3o16bob3o$57b2o4bo13b4o$57b7o15bo$59bo2bobo$63bo
2$59bo$59bo!

Edit 2: another one:
x = 85, y = 30, rule = B358/S238
38bo$37bobo$36b2ob2o$36b2ob3o38bo2bo$36bo3b2o37bo3b2o$36b3ob2o14b4o18b
o3bobo$27bo6bo5bo14b3ob2o21b2o$26b3o6b3o2bo13bo3b2o9b2o9b3o$25b2ob2o5b
obo2bo14b2o12b2o7b2obo$13b3o8b2o3b2o7bo2bo14bo12bobo7b2o$3b3o4bobo2bo
2b2o5b2ob2o9b2o$b2obo2bo2bo6b4o5b3o$bo6bo9b2obo5bo$bo6bo4b8o$2bo2b4o6b
5o$4bo57b3o$64bo$63bo3$3bo$bo2b4o6b5o$o6bo4b8o$o6bo9b2obo5bo12b3o$2obo
2bo2bo6b4o5b3o14bo$2b3o4bobo2bo2b2o5b2ob2o9b2o2b3o5bo$12b3o8b2o3b2o9b
2o2bo5bobo$24b2ob2o10bo10bo$25b3o12bobo$26bo14bo!

Edit 3: yet another:
x = 57, y = 22, rule = B358/S238
18b3o$4b2o14bo$b2o12bo4bo$o2bob2o12bo26b2o$ob2obo3bo4bo2bo27bo3b2o$3o
2bo3bo4bo2b2o27bo4bo$9bo4bo4bo9bo$5bo2bo4b2o4bo8bobo17b2o3bo$6bo6bo4bo
10bo20b2o3b2o$17bo34b2o$16bo$22bo$18b2o3bo$18b2o3b2o$6bo6b2o4b2o3bo9b
3o$5bob3o3b3o2b3ob2o10b3o$4b2o2b3o11bo$5b4ob2o$6b3o2bo12b2o$24b3o$24b
2o$24bo!
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V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη)
K=(Λu²)/2
Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt)

$$x_1=\eta x$$
$$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$
$$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$
$$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$

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Re: Soup search results in rules other than Conway's Life

Postby gameoflifeboy » March 12th, 2015, 3:40 pm

Just like another rule I tried to search once (don't remember the rule number), B3/S02456 has the weird property that while most patterns tend to stabilize, D2_+2 symmetry patterns usually explode in a line, occasionally shooting spaceships out of the ends. However, b3/s02456 also shoots out puffers so that probably isn't the rule I was thinking of.

Example asymmetric soup that becomes symmetrical and explodes (there are two of them in the catagolue):
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x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S02456
bbbbbooooobbbooo$
bbbbbbooooboobob$
obbbbooboobobobo$
bboooobbobbooboo$
bbbbbbbobbbobbbb$
bobobobbooobbobb$
booooboobobbooob$
oobobboboboobooo$
oboobbbooooboooo$
obobobboboobbbbb$
booooobobobooobb$
bbbbbbobboboobbb$
booboboboobbboob$
oboobobbbbbooobo$
bobooooboobooobo$
oboboboboboobobb!
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Re: Soup search results in rules other than Conway's Life

Postby velcrorex » March 12th, 2015, 4:03 pm

p412 oscillator in B358/S23 is not uncommon.
x = 16, y = 16, rule = B358/S23
bbbooobbbobboooo$
obbobooobooobooo$
ooobbbbboobobbbb$
bboboboobobbbbob$
bbboboobbooobbbo$
obbboooboboobooo$
bbbooooboobbooob$
bbbooooooobbbooo$
bbbboobooobooobb$
bboobobbboooobbo$
boooooboobbobboo$
bbbobboobbobooob$
oobbboobobobbobo$
bbobbboboobbbboo$
bbbbbobbbooobbob$
bobooooobboobbbb!
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Re: Soup search results in rules other than Conway's Life

Postby A for awesome » March 12th, 2015, 4:57 pm

gameoflifeboy wrote:Just like another rule I tried to search once (don't remember the rule number), B3/S02456 has the weird property that while most patterns tend to stabilize, D2_+2 symmetry patterns usually explode in a line, occasionally shooting spaceships out of the ends. However, b3/s02456 also shoots out puffers so that probably isn't the rule I was thinking of.

Example asymmetric soup that becomes symmetrical and explodes (there are two of them in the catagolue):
Code: Select all
x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S02456
bbbbbooooobbbooo$
bbbbbbooooboobob$
obbbbooboobobobo$
bboooobbobbooboo$
bbbbbbbobbbobbbb$
bobobobbooobbobb$
booooboobobbooob$
oobobboboboobooo$
oboobbbooooboooo$
obobobboboobbbbb$
booooobobobooobb$
bbbbbbobboboobbb$
booboboboobbboob$
oboobobbbbbooobo$
bobooooboobooobo$
oboboboboboobobb!

The soup in Catagolue marked "explosive" actually stabilizes in around 1 million gens. I haven't checked the other one yet.
x₁=ηx
V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη)
K=(Λu²)/2
Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt)

$$x_1=\eta x$$
$$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$
$$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$
$$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$

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Re: Soup search results in rules other than Conway's Life

Postby Lewis » March 17th, 2015, 5:07 am

P168 oscillator in B3578/S24678:
x = 7, y = 5, rule = B3578/S24678
b3o$2bo3bo$7o$o3bo$3b3o!


and the soup it came from:
x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3578/S24678
5bob2o2bo$o3b4obobob2o$obobo2b3ob2ob2o$4obob3o4bo$b2o3b5obo2bo$6obo4b
2o$o2bob6o2b2o$bo8b2o3bo$o3bob5obob2o$ob3obob2ob3obo$obo2bo2bob4o$b3o
3bob3o3bo$3ob2o2bobo2bo$b2o3bobo4bo$o3bo2b3ob2o2bo$3b2obo2bo3bo!
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Re: Soup search results in rules other than Conway's Life

Postby gameoflifeboy » March 20th, 2015, 9:10 pm

Period 14 in HighLife!

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#C [[ THEME 4 ZOOM 4 THUMBNAIL ]]
x = 32, y = 32, rule = B36/S23
oooobbooobbbbobobbbobboobbbobbbo$
bobooboobbobbbobbbobbbbbobbbbooo$
bobbobobooboooooobbboobbooooobbo$
bbooobbbobooooooboobobobbbbboboo$
oboboobbbobooobobbbbobboobooooob$
bboboooobbboobbbbbobobbooboobbbb$
bbobbbboooobbobbboboobooobobbooo$
boobooobooboooobooobbbbbboobbboo$
obbbooobobobboobbobboboooobboobo$
obbobboboboooobooobbobbboobobobb$
bbobbbbbbbobobbobboboooobobbobob$
bbooooobooooobbooobboboboboooobb$
obbbbbobbbbbbooobooboooboboooobb$
bobobobobboboooooboobboooobooobo$
bbbobbooooboobbbbboobbboobbbooob$
bbobbbboboboboboobooooobbbbooobo$
obooobbbboooooboobobobobobbbbobb$
booobbboobbboobbbbbooboooobbobbb$
oboooboooobboobooooobobbobobobob$
bbooooboboooboobooobbbbbbobbbbbo$
bboooobobobobbooobbooooobooooobb$
bobobboboooobobbobbobobbbbbbbobb$
bboboboobbbobboooboooobobobbobbo$
oboobboooobobbobboobbobobooobbbo$
oobbboobbbbbboooboooobooboooboob$
ooobboboooboobobbbobboooobbbbobb$
bbbbooboobbobobbbbboobbboooobobb$
boooooboobbobbbbobooobobbboobobo$
oobobbbbbobobooboooooobobbbooobb$
obbooooobboobbbooooooboobobobbob$
ooobbbbobbbbbobbbobbbobbooboobob$
obbbobbboobbobbbobobbbbooobboooo!
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Re: Soup search results in rules other than Conway's Life

Postby calcyman » March 30th, 2015, 4:17 pm

Some interesting results, including three instances of a period-126 rectangle oscillator, appeared in b36s125/D4_+4:

http://catagolue.appspot.com/haul/b36s125/D4_+4/682ee3d17a92f3497ba7b998346c0fbf

Scroll down to near the bottom of the page to see the p126 oscillator. You'll struggle to miss it...
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Re: Soup search results in rules other than Conway's Life

Postby wildmyron » April 7th, 2015, 1:01 am

In B36/S245 two instances of a shuttle based replicator have appeared in 8x32 asymmetrical soups - however they are both variants of the well known replicator with an offset between the two shuttles of (15,2) in place of (13,0):
x = 32, y = 16, rule = B36/S245
oobbobbobobobbbbbooobbbbobbbobbb$
ooobobbobbbooobbobooobbobbbboboo$
bbbboobbooobobboooobobbobbbooooo$
bbboobobbbbbboboboobbbooooobobbo$
oobbbbobbobboobobbbboboobobobbbo$
bbbooboobbbobbooobobbbooobbobbob$
oboobboooooboobbbbobbobbobbboooo$
oobobbbbooboobbobbboobbboobboooo$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb!
#C [[ STEP 4 ZOOM 2 ]]


and (14,-1) with phase difference of 4:
x = 32, y = 16, rule = B36/S245
bobobobboobobobooobbbobbobbobbob$
bobboboboobooobbooobooooobbobboo$
obbbboboobbbobooobbobboobbobbbbo$
obbbboobobobbboooobobooboooooobo$
ooobooooobbobbooboobbbbboboooobb$
bobbobbooobobboboobooobbbooooobb$
bbbbboobobbboobbobobobobooooobbo$
bobbbbbbbbbbboobbbooboobooobbobb$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb!
#C [[ STEP 4 ZOOM 2 ]]

These two instances have both shown up after less than 26 million soups, whereas just over 130 million 16x16 soups have been submitted to Catagolue. This is perhaps not that suprising as soups die out relatively quickly in this rule and the side length of 32 gives greater opportunity for side by side shuttles to form.

For some reason I haven't determined yet, Catogolue reports 4 instances of the replicator from these two soups.
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Re: Soup search results in rules other than Conway's Life

Postby calcyman » April 7th, 2015, 6:10 am

For some reason I haven't determined yet, Catogolue reports 4 instances of the replicator from these two soups.


Because apgsearch gets confused about how many replicators there are in a particular soup (after all, they multiply!).
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Re: Soup search results in rules other than Conway's Life

Postby gameoflifeboy » April 7th, 2015, 12:53 pm

This B3/S258 soup produces an oscillator that resembles the fox:

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#C [[ THUMBNAIL AUTOSTART GPS 20 LOOP 30 THEME 6 ]]
x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S258
oobobbbbobboobbo$
bbboobobobobobbo$
boobbboobbbooboo$
bbbbobbbooboobbb$
booobooooobbooob$
oboobobboobbbobo$
bobbooboooobboob$
oobobobboobbbobb$
oobbbobobbobbbbo$
ooooboboboooobbo$
obobobbooboboboo$
bobobboooobooobo$
oobobboooobobbob$
bobboboboobbbboo$
obobbooobbbbbooo$
obbbobbobboboobb!
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