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B35/S236

Post by SuperJedi224 » November 27th, 2015, 11:26 pm

This is a highly explosive rule, in which almost any sufficiently large pattern will quickly evolve into a spacefiller-like structure, with large numbers of spaceships often emerging from the surface.

Still lifes in common with Life include the block, the tub, the ship, and the barge. Oscillators in common with Life include the blinker and the beacon.

And here's a common 2c/5 orthagonal spacehip:

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x = 4, y = 5, rule = B35/S236
bo$2bo$o2bo$2bo$bo!
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Re: B35/S236

Post by velcrorex » November 27th, 2015, 11:35 pm

Lots of information on this rule here.
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Re: B35/S236

Post by praosylen » May 10th, 2017, 5:40 pm

A bunch of spaceships:

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x = 260, y = 155, rule = B35/S236
181bo13b2o12bo7bo9bo12bo$179b2ob2o7bob2o2b2obo6b2ob2o3b2ob2o5b2ob2o8b
2ob2o$178bo2bo2bo5b2o3b2o3b2o4bo2bo2bobo2bo2bo3bo2bo2bo6bo2bo2bo$74bo
13bo5bo11bo5bo9bo7bo8bo8bo8bo12bo7bobobobo6b3ob2ob3o5bobobobobobobobo
3bobobobo6bobobobo$69b3ob3ob3o7b3o3b3o9b3obob3o7b3o5b3o5b2ob2o4b2ob2o
5b3o10b3o9bo7b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o6bo7bo9bo12bo$70bob5obo7b3o5b3o7b2o2bobo2b
2o7b3o3b3o5bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo4b6o4b6o7bo3bo8bobo2bobo7bo3bo3bo3bo5bo3bo
8bo3bo$72bo3bo8b2o2b2ob2o2b2o5bo11bo4b2o2b2ob2o2b2o3bobobobo2bobobobo
5b3o2bo2bo2b3o8bobobo6b4o4b4o5bobobo3bobobo5bobobo6b2obobob2o$69bob2ob
ob2obo5bo3b2ob2o3bo6b2obo3bob2o4b7ob7o5bo8bo9bobobo2bobobo22b3o2b3o35b
2obo3bob2o$70b4ob4o5b2ob2obobob2ob2o5bo2bo3bo2bo5bob3o3b3obo4bo3bo4bo
3bo7bo10bo10b3o10b2o2b2o9b3o5b3o7b3o5b4obobob4o$90bobo12bo2b3o2bo6b3ob
o3bob3o4bobobo4bobobo7bo2bo4bo2bo9bo3bo8b2o4b2o7bo3bo3bo3bo7bo6b2o2b2o
b2o2b2o$73bobo11bo2bobo2bo9b2o5b2o9bo5bo31b2o2b2o11bo5bo6b3o4b3o6bob2o
bobob2obo7bo10bo3bo$71b3ob3o9b2obobob2o10bo5bo9bo7bo7b3o6b3o10b3o2b3o
11bo3bo25b2obobob2o$71b3ob3o11b2ob2o13bobobo11bobobobo9bo8bo12b6o10bo
2b3o2bo7bo4bo9bo2b2ob2o2bo6b2o10bo5bo$72bo3bo10b2obobob2o27b3ob3o8bobo
6bobo10bo2b2o2bo9b2ob3ob2o7b2o2b2o8b2o2b2ob2o2b2o5b2o11bo3bo$71b2o3b2o
11b2ob2o12bo2bo2bo24b4o6b4o28bo3bo8b3o2b3o6bo13bo3b2o$70b3o3b3o10b2ob
2o13bo3bo11bobobobo6b4obob2obob4o9bob2obo9b3ob3ob3o6b6o26bo$69b2obo3bo
b2o44bo3bo8bo4bo2bo4bo10b6o25bo2b2o2bo8bo9bo$71b2o3b2o59bo2bo6bo2bo9bo
bo2bobo9bobobobobo20b2o11b2o$71b3ob3o60bo10bo10b8o24bo6bo$71b2o3b2o58b
o2bo8bo2bo8b2o4b2o9b2o5b2o5b2o6b2o$72bobobo64bo4bo13b2o4b2o9b2o5b2o4bo
10bo$72bo3bo60bo2bo2b2o2bo2bo10bob2obo11b2o3b2o$160bo6bo10bo5bo7bo6bo$
190b2o8b2o3$73bo$72bobo$71bo3bo$72bobo$72bobo$73bo$72b3o$72bobo$70b2o
3b2o$69bo3bo3bo$70b7o$71b5o5$72b3o$71bo3bo3$71b2ob2o$72b3o$72b3o$71bo
3bo$69bobo3bobo$69bo7bo3$73bo$73bo5$74bo13bo3bo12bo3bo11bo3bo10b2o5b2o
10bo5bo13bo3bo11b2o6b2o7b2o8b2o12b2o$69b2ob5ob2o6b2obobob2o8b2obobob2o
8bobobobo8bo2bo3bo2bo7b2obo3bob2o9b2obobob2o8b4o4b4o5bo2bo6bo2bo9bo4bo
$69b2o7b2o5b3obobob3o6b3obobob3o7bobobobo7b2o3bobo3b2o4b3ob2o3b2ob3o6b
3obobob3o6b2ob3o2b3ob2o3bo3b2o4b2o3bo7bobo2bobo$69bo2bo3bo2bo4bo2b3ob
3o2bo4bo2b3ob3o2bo20b2obobobobob2o3bo3b2obobob2o3bo4bo2b3ob3o2bo5b4obo
2bob4o6b3o4b3o7b4o6b4o$71b2o3b2o6b3o2bobo2b3o4b3o2bobo2b3o6b3ob3o7b4ob
obob4o3bobob4ob4obobo4b3o2bobo2b3o5b2o2bob2obo2b2o3b2o2b3o2b3o2b2o3bob
obobo2bobobobo$72b5o9b2o5b2o8b2o5b2o7b4ob4o7b5ob5o6b3o7b3o8b2o5b2o12bo
2bo13b2o2b2o8b2o3bob2obo3b2o$72bo3bo10bobobobo10bobobobo10b2ob2o26b2o
9b2o9bobobobo27bobo6bobo6bobo8bobo$87b3ob3o10b3ob3o10b2ob2o11bo5bo10bo
7bo11b3ob3o13b4o15b2o11b2o2b6o2b2o$72bobobo41b5ob5o7bobo3bobo7bo11bo
28b2o2b2o12b2o2b2o12b8o$71bo2bo2bo9bobobobo10bobobobo7b2o7b2o6bo3bobo
3bo7b2o7b2o10bobobobo11b2o4b2o29b8o$69b2o2bobo2b2o8b2ob2o9bo2bo3bo2bo
4bo11bo5bob2o3b2obo4b2o2bo7bo2b2o3b3o3bobo3b3o7b8o11bob2obo$69b11o7b2o
3b2o7bobobo3bobobo3bo2bo5bo2bo4b2o9b2o5bo2bo5bo2bo4bo2b3obobob3o2bo6bo
bo2bobo9b3o4b3o12b4o$71bo2bo2bo8b2obobob2o7bo2bo3bo2bo6b2o5b2o5b2o11b
2o3bo2bo7bo2bo3b2obo3bobo3bob2o5b4o2b4o7b2obo4bob2o10b2o2b2o$73b3o10bo
2bobo2bo7b2ob2ob2ob2o5b4o3b4o4bo2bo7bo2bo7bo5bo11bo2bobo2bo8b4ob2ob4o
5bo3bob2obo3bo11b2o$85b3obobob3o9b2ob2o9bo2bobo2bo6bo11bo25b2o2bobo2b
2o6b3o2bo2bo2b3o9bo2bo16b2o$74bo10bo3bobo3bo8bo5bo8bo2bobo2bo44bo2b2ob
2o2bo5b3o4b2o4b3o8bo2bo15b4o$74bo11bobo3bobo7b5ob5o7bobobobo68b2o13b8o
11bobo2bobo$118bobo5bobo66b2o12b3o4b3o10bobo2bobo$85b2o7b2o8bobobobo7b
3o5b3o64b2o2b2o12bob2obo11bobob2obobo$121bo3bo86bo2bo12b4o2b4o$119bo7b
o65bo4bo28b2o2bo2bo2b2o$213b2o4$41bo29b2o9b2o10bo5bo12bo7bo13bo3bo10bo
13bo8bo7bo8b2o8b2o13b2o17b2o11bo10bo$7b2o14b5o12b4o3bo22b4o7b4o7b3o5b
3o9bobo5bobo11bobobobo9bo13bo7bobo5bobo6b4o6b4o10b6o14b4o9bobo8bobo$6b
o2bo13b2o2b2o11bob2ob3o21bo4bo5bo4bo5bo3bo3bo3bo7bobo7bobo9bo7bo7bobo
11bobo5bobo7bobo4bo4bo4bo4bo8bo6bo12bo4bo8bo2bob4obo2bo$6bobo13bo2bo2b
3o11bo3bo44bob2o5b2obo8bo2bo3bo2bo9bo3bobo3bo29bo2bo3bo2bo28bobo4bobo
25bob3o4b3obo$9bob2o8b2o5bo12b2obo26b2o9b2o31b2ob2o12bobo5bobo9b3o5b3o
12b2ob2o10b2o8b2o9b4o2b4o13b2o13bob4obo$6bobo11bobobo2bo2bo10bob2o2bo
23b2o9b2o10bo5bo34b2ob2o13bob2ob2obo28b2o8b2o10bob4obo14b2o10bo3b2o2b
2o3bo$8bo2b2o9bobo3b3o10bo3b3o44b4o3b4o11bobobobo12b3o3b3o8bo13bo9bobo
bobo30bo2bo2bo2bo9b2ob4ob2o12b2o$b2obo2bo4bo11b8o9b2o4bo23b2o9b2o7b4ob
obob4o9bo2bobo2bo9bo2b2o3b2o2bo6b5obobob5o10b2ob2o10b2o8b2o9bo2bo2bo2b
o8bo2b2o2b2o2bo8bo2b2o2bo$o5bo2bob3o10bo2b2ob2o10b6obo20bo2bo7bo2bo6bo
3b2ob2o3bo8bo9bo9bobo5bobo8bobob2ob2obobo9b4ob4o7bobo8bobo7b3o2b2o2b3o
6b3obo4bob3o7bo6bo$obob2o3bo3b3obo6bo3bo4b2o7bo2b2ob3o19b2o2bo5bo2b2o
5bob2obo3bob2obo6b3obo3bob3o27bo2b2o3b2o2bo7bo2bobobobo2bo6bobo6bobo
10bob4obo8bo12bo7bo6bo$bobo3b2o8bo7bo2bo2bo2b3o11bo2bobo17bo2bo5bo2bo
6b2obob2ob2obob2o9bo5bo10b2o9b2o6bo3b2o3b2o3bo5bo2bob2ob2obo2bo4bo3bo
4bo3bo6b3obob2obob3o6b2o8b2o6bo10bo$11b4o13bob2obobo12bo4bo17b3o7b3o6b
2o2b2o3b2o2b2o4b3o2bo5bo2b3o3bo2bo9bo2bo4bo3bo5bo3bo7bo3bobo3bo8bobo4b
obo9bo10bo6b2o2bo4bo2b2o6bo8bo$3bobobo2bob2o2bobo14b2o4bo10b3obo17b2o
7b2o8bo2b2o3b2o2bo5b2obobo5bobob2o4bobob3ob3obobo9bo5bo12b2o5b2o7b2obo
6bob2o25bo2b2o4b2o2bo$3bob3o2b2o4b2o12bo2b3obobo10b2ob2ob3o13b2o7b2o9b
2o7b2o11b2o3b2o11bo2bo3bo2bo9b5ob5o7bobo2b2ob2o2bobo5b2o2bo2bo2b2o7bob
o8bobo4bo3b2o4b2o3bo$7b2ob2o19bobobo2b3o12b4obo11b3o9b3o29b2o3b2o11b2o
2bobo2b2o11b3ob3o15b3o11bo10bo6bo2bo8bo2bo$8bobo4bobo13bo2bo3bo17bob3o
10bobo7bobo29bobo3bobo10bo9bo33b3o30b3o8b3o7bo8bo$8bo5b2ob2o13b2o5b2o
10b3ob4o13b2o7b2o9bo9bo10b2o5b2o11b3o3b3o32bo2bo2bo9bobo6bobo28b2o6b2o
$11b2o4bo4bo10bo2bobo13b2o3bo2bo10b3o7b3o6b2obo7bob2o8bo7bo9b2obobobob
ob2o28b2obobobob2o9b2o4b2o11b2o6b2o$8b2o2bob3o2b2ob4o8b2obo3bo10b2o3bo
15b3o3b3o8bob2o7b2obo6bo2bobobobo2bo7b2o9b2o27bo3bo3bo3bo6bo2bo4bo2bo
6b2ob2o6b2ob2o$11bo3bo3b2obo2bo8b2o2bobo2bo2bo6bo3b2ob3o7b3o2bo3bo2b3o
5bo13bo5b4ob2ob2ob4o6b3o7b3o26bob3o5b3obo4bo3bo4bo3bo5b2o4bo2bo4b2o$
17b4o3b2o11b3o2bobobo8bo3bo3bo6bo3bobobobo3bo24bo2bob3ob3obo2bo4b2o11b
2o25bob2obobobob2obo6b2o6b2o8b4o2b2o2b4o$17b3ob2o2bob2o13bo4bo7bo3bobo
8bo3b3ob3o3bo25bo2bo2bobo2bo2bo5b2o11b2o31bobo10b4o2b2o2b4o6b2o3b4o3b
2o$20b6obo11bobo2bo15bo2bobo9b2ob2o36bobo11b3o9b3o32bo12bo4b2o4bo11b2o
2b2o$16b3ob2ob2ob2o12bob2obo14bobo2bo47b2o5b2o9b2o9b2o45b2o3bo2bo3b2o$
17bo3b3o2b2o12bobo3bo13bobobo$17bobob2o4bo12b3o2b2o15bo$17b5o4b2obo15b
obo14bo$22b2obo4b2o44b2o$20b6o2b2obo43bo2bo$20bo6bobob2o40b3o2b3o$25bo
b2o3bob3o38b4o$26bo5bobo38bobo2bobo$26b3o3bob2obo35bobo2bobo$28b4o2bo
39b2o2b2o$34bob2o37bo2bo$29b5ob6o32b3o2b3o$29bobo2bo3b2obo28b3obo4bob
3o$29bo3b2o3b2o33bo6bo$31bob2o6bo28bo3b2o2b2o3bo$34b3ob2o31bo2b2o2b2o
2bo$34b3obobo3bo28b2o4b2o$34bo4bo5bo$35bobo4b2o2bo$41b2o4b2o$41bo3b4o$
39bo5bobo$40bo2b2obobo$41bobobo2bo$42b3o2bob2o$42b2ob2ob3o$47b5o$47b4o
2bo$49bo3bo4bo$54b6o$50b2o4bob2o$52bob3obo2bo$52bob7obo$52b4o3b2o$52bo
2bo3b4obo$51b5o2bo2b3o$52b2ob3o4b2obo$55b3o2b3ob2o$54bo2b2ob2ob2ob3o$
55bob4o4b4o$58b2obo3b2o$57bo2b2o$59b2ob2o$61b3o$61b2o$61b2o!
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Re: B35/S236

Post by Naszvadi » October 15th, 2017, 11:44 am

Bump! p68 technology is mature but what about p24 based widgets in this rule?

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Re: B35/S236

Post by Naszvadi » October 27th, 2017, 2:33 pm

FYI: https://plus.google.com/100003628603413 ... mrSkLDLbNG

OK, who's next? Adding B8 to get rulestring B358/S236? It has Gun#Guns_in_Life-like_cellular_automata and similar reactions.

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Re: B35/S236

Post by wildmyron » August 27th, 2018, 1:25 am

A p2 eater for the small 2c/5 ship.

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x = 11, y = 9, rule = B35/S236
8bo$8bobo$7bobo$bobo5bo$ob2o$bobo$7b2o$6bobo$6b2o!
I've spent some time searching for a stable eater. No luck, but I can say any such pattern must have a large active area ( > 5x5 ), a long recovery time ( > 15 gen ), or most likely both.
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Re: B35/S236

Post by LaundryPizza03 » September 7th, 2020, 9:09 am

I've looked for a 3c/8o and concluded using qfind that there is no ship on odd symmetry at width 9, but that search reached a final depth of around 700. However, the search space for width 10 expands too quickly to use qfind, and I have too many searches runnign right now, so if you could run it in zfind.

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x = 4, y = 3, rule = B3-q4z5y/S234k5j
2b2o$b2o$2o!
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Re: B35/S236

Post by LaundryPizza03 » October 30th, 2020, 11:54 pm

Let's focus on universal construction. We know that there are push and pull reactions for the block, as documented here, as well as a reaction where a block-deletion reaction can kick a ship sideways. A modification of the delay line memory salvo can place a block:

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x = 36, y = 13, rule = B35/S236
2o$3o$2o4$17bobo13bo$16bo2b2o11bobo$17bobo12bo2bo$29bo4bo$22bobo6b3o$
21bo2b2o2bob2o$22bobo4b2o!
Can the c/3o be constructed using gliders? Is there a construction arm that doesn't get destroyed after one use?

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x = 4, y = 3, rule = B3-q4z5y/S234k5j
2b2o$b2o$2o!
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Re: B35/S236

Post by LaundryPizza03 » October 31st, 2020, 12:22 am

Naszvadi wrote:
October 15th, 2017, 11:44 am
Bump! p68 technology is mature but what about p24 based widgets in this rule?
Eppstein did construct a p216 gun with it. Components include 90- and 180-degree reflectors and a doohickey that delays a glider by 5 generations. He also showed how to make a p408 gun compatible with both technologies.

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#C p216 gun, DE 13 Jun 1998
x = 114, y = 92, rule = B35/S236
52b2o$52b3o$51b3o$51b2o4$44b3o11b3o$43bo2bo11bo2bo$43b2o15b2o4$38bo$
38bo$70b3o$39bo20b2o17bo$15b2o10b2o3b2o5b2o19b3o6bobobo3bo3bo11b2o$15b
o12b3o7b2o19b3o7bo7bobobo10bo2bo$15bobo11bo8bo20b2o9b3o4bo3bo10b5o7b3o
$16b2o61b2o12b3o7bo$103bobobo2$104b3o$11b3o97bo$10bo2bo88b3o4bo3bo$10b
2o90b3o4bobobo$102b3o4bo3bo$51b3o49bo6b2o$51b3o49bo$26b2o24bo$25bo2bo$
25b5o$26b3o3$38b2o$37bo2bo28b2o3b2o35bo$9bo16bo10b5o28b3o37b3o$9bo15b
3o10b3o30bo37bob2o$24bob2o54b3o24bob2o$10bo13bob2o53b5o24b2o$10b2o13b
2o54bo2bo$9b2o7bo31b3o29b2o$9bo7b3o30b3o$17b3o31bo2$57b2o$2bo53b3o26b
2o$b3o9b3o41b2o25b3o$2o3b2o4b5o69b3o$13b3o70b2o3$60b3o$78b3o$9bo17b2o
30bobobo13bobo$9b2o16bobo29bo18b3o14b3o11b3o$10b2o17bo30b3o14bo16bo17b
o$10bo17b2o64bobobo9bobobo2$9bo85b3o11b3o$9bo2$46b2o$46b3o18b2o$45b3o
19b3o38bobo$11bo13bo19b2o20b2o38bobo$10b2o13b2o80b3o$9b2o15b2o79bobo$
10bo15bo$102b2o$11bo13bo64b3o8bobo$11bo13bo35b2o19b2o5b5o7bo$60b3o18b
2obo5bo2bo7b2o$61b3o17b2obo6b2o$62b2o17b3o$82bo$12bo62bo$10bo3bo58bo3b
o$10bobobo47b2o9bobobo$10bo3bo46b3o9bo3bo$11b2o49b2o11b2o5$16b2o3b2o
28bobo16b3o$17b3o6b2o24bobo18bo$18bo7b4o22b3o14bobobo$27b3o22bobo$28bo
41b3o!

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x = 4, y = 3, rule = B3-q4z5y/S234k5j
2b2o$b2o$2o!
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