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Re: Rule request thread

Postby wildmyron » July 18th, 2018, 6:56 am

Caenbe wrote:I guess I should have mentioned, I don't have Lua yet. So, that'll be a blast to get working.

You don't need to get the Lua interpreter separately, it comes included with Golly from version 3.0 on.
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Re: Rule request thread

Postby gameoflifemaniac » July 18th, 2018, 6:56 am

Is it possible do a cellular automaton that would emulate Larger than Life?
The icons would look like this:
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Re: Rule request thread

Postby Caenbe » July 18th, 2018, 5:15 pm

With the modification to the script I detailed earlier, everything seems to be working exactly as it should. Here's the modified version:
-- initAsyncUniverse - initialise a part of the universe to run asynchronous CA rules
-- see http://conwaylife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=61953#p61953
-- Author: Arie Paap, July 2018
-- Credit: Based on Golly's invert.lua by Andrew Trevorrow

-- Usage: Draw a pattern in a 2-state rule at Gen 0 and then run this script

local g = golly()
local gp = require "gplus"

-- re-assigning inner loop functions results in a 10% speed up
local setcell = g.setcell
local getcell = g.getcell

-- Determine the area to initialise
local buffer = 50
local r = g.getselrect()
if #r == 0 then r = {0, 0, 0, 0} end

r[1] = r[1] - buffer
r[2] = r[2] - buffer
r[3] = r[3] + 2*buffer
r[4] = r[4] + 2*buffer

r = gp.rect(r)

-- Convert cells within this area

local oldsecs = os.clock()
local newsecs = os.clock()
local state = 0

for row = r.top, r.bottom do
    -- if large selection then give some indication of progress
    newsecs = os.clock()
    if newsecs - oldsecs >= 1.0 then
        oldsecs = newsecs
        g.update()
    end
    for col = r.left, r.right do
        state = 2 + 2 * ( 2*(row % 2) + ((row + col) % 2) )     
        setcell(col, row, state - getcell(col, row))
    end
end

Thanks, everyone involved. Unfortunately, I'm kind of busy lately, so I may not have a lot of time to investigate these asynchronous rules.
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Re: Rule request thread

Postby AforAmpere » July 18th, 2018, 7:38 pm

gameoflifemaniac wrote:Is it possible do a cellular automaton that would emulate Larger than Life?
The icons would look like this:


Only if Golly can handle over 68 billion transitions. This is because each cell would have 16 states, and the number of border cells is 9, so 16^9 transitions, or just over 68 billion. Unlike the method for reducing the number of transitions for Life played on this effectively larger grid (I discussed this somewhere else), which I estimate can be reduced to around 65,000 transitions, this idea of LTL using this grid, with a maximum range of two, would have no easy way that I can see to reduce the number of transitions, effectively making the number incredibly large.

I tried my hand at making Life work on this kind of grid, but it turned out to be too much for me, even with some ways to reduce the number of transitions further. Maybe a script could work for that, but not for the LTL version, as far as I can see.
Things to work on:
- Find a (7,1)c/8 ship in a Non-totalistic rule (someone please search the rules)
- Find a C/10 in JustFriends
- Find a C/10 in Day and Night
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Re: Rule request thread

Postby wildmyron » July 18th, 2018, 10:52 pm

Caenbe wrote:With the modification to the script I detailed earlier, everything seems to be working exactly as it should.

Ahh, yes. That does match the behaviour correctly and I see that the version I posted had the cell states for rows with odd x flipped. The resulting behaviour is certainly less explosive and seems similarly chaotic to CGoL.

gameoflifemaniac wrote:Is it possible do a cellular automaton that would emulate Larger than Life?
The icons would look like this:

Do you mean something like the ruletables produced by the Extended Neighborhood Emulator Script? In that case the neighbourhood is a disc rather than the full range 2 Moore neighbourhood, but I think ruletables emulating rules with the same survival conditions on the two neighbourhoods would come to very similar sizes. Did you have a particular Larger Than Life rule in mind? for range 2 rules I would say it's possible, depending on the number of B/S transitions specified, but for larger ranges I don't think 256 states is sufficient (has someone done that calculation?)

I'm afraid I don't understand your table of icons, perhaps I misunderstood what you want the rule to do.
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Re: Rule request thread

Postby wildmyron » July 19th, 2018, 2:20 am

Here's a Python script to generate ruletables for asynchronous versions of Life-like rules, according to Caenbe's spec.

I've only tested it with B3S23 and verified that it generates a ruletable which behaves identically to AsyncLife which I posted earlier.

# genAsyncRule.py
# Generate a ruletabe to emulate an asynchronous cellular automata
# see http://conwaylife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=61953#p61953
# Author: Arie Paap, July 2018

import golly as g

# Rule generator functions derived from apgsearch v1.1 by Adam P. Goucher

# Save a rule file:
def saverule(name, comments, table, colours):

    ruledir = g.getdir("rules")
    filename = ruledir + name + ".rule"

    results = "@RULE " + name + "\n\n"
    results += "*** File autogenerated by genAsyncRule. ***\n"
    results += comments
    results += "\n\n@TABLE\n\n"
    results += table
    results += "\n@COLORS\n\n"
    results += colours

    try:
        f = open(filename, 'w')
        f.write(results)
        f.close()
    except:
        g.warn("Unable to create rule table:\n" + filename)

# Generate a transition line
def scoline(chara, charb, left, right, amount):

   line = str(left) + ","

   for i in xrange(8):
      if (i < amount):
         line += chara
      else:
         line += charb
      line += str(i+1)
      line += ","

   line += str(right) + "\n"

   return line

# Construct and save the ruletable
def saveAsyncRule():
    # Set outer-totalistic rule:
    rulestring = g.getstring("Enter Life-like rule to use?", "B3/S23")
    mode = 0
    ess = [False]*9
    bee = [False]*9

    for c in rulestring:
        if ((c == 's') | (c == 'S')):
            mode = 0
        if ((c == 'b') | (c == 'B')):
            mode = 1
        if (c == '/'):
            mode = 1 - mode
        if ((ord(c) >= 48) & (ord(c) <= 56)):
            d = ord(c) - 48
            if (mode == 0):
                ess[d] = True
            else:
                bee[d] = True
    alphanumeric = "B"
    for i in xrange(9):
        if (bee[i]):
            alphanumeric += str(i)
    alphanumeric += "S"
    for i in xrange(9):
        if (ess[i]):
            alphanumeric += str(i)

    comments = """
An Asynchronous version of RULESTRING
http://conwaylife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=61953#p61953

Cells obey the usual rules of RULESTRING, but instead of the cells all updating
simultaneously, they update in a specific asynchronous fashion.

Cell states:
0:       vacuum
odd:    On cells
even:   Off cells

The way cells update is as follows:
At time 4n, all cells with even x and even y update (initialised to states 1 and 2).
At time 4n+1, all cells with odd x and even y update (initialised to states 3 and 4).
At time 4n+2, all cells with odd x and odd y update (initialised to states 5 and 6).
At time 4n+3, all cells with even x and odd y update (initialised to states 7 and 8).
"""
    comments.replace("RULESTRING", rulestring)
    varlist = """
var OFF1 = {2,4,6,8}
var OFF2 = OFF1
var OFF3 = OFF1
var OFF4 = OFF1
var OFF5 = OFF1
var OFF6 = OFF1
var OFF7 = OFF1
var OFF8 = OFF1
var ON1 = {1,3,5,7}
var ON2 = ON1
var ON3 = ON1
var ON4 = ON1
var ON5 = ON1
var ON6 = ON1
var ON7 = ON1
var ON8 = ON1
var any1 = {0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8}
var any2 = any1
var any3 = any1
var any4 = any1
var any5 = any1
var any6 = any1
var any7 = any1
var any8 = any1
"""   
    table = "n_states:9\n"
    table += "neighborhood:Moore\n"
    table += "symmetries:permute\n"
    table += varlist
    table += "\n"
   
    table += "# Active cells\n"
   
    minperc = 10
    for i in xrange(9):
        if (bee[i]):
            if (minperc == 10):
                minperc = i
            table += scoline("ON","OFF",2,7,i)
        if (ess[i]):
            table += scoline("ON","OFF",1,7,i)

    table += scoline("","any",1,8,0)
    table += scoline("","any",2,8,0)
   
    table += "\n# Inactive cells\n"
    table += scoline("","any",4,2,0)
    table += scoline("","any",6,4,0)
    table += scoline("","any",8,6,0)
    table += scoline("","any",3,1,0)
    table += scoline("","any",5,3,0)
    table += scoline("","any",7,5,0)

    colours = """
0    0    0    0
1  255  255  255
2   64   64   64
3  255    0    0
4   64    0    0
5  255  128    0
6   64   32    0
7  255  255    0
8   64   64    0
"""
   
    name = "Async_"+alphanumeric
    saverule(name, comments, table, colours)
   
    return name

rulename = saveAsyncRule()
g.setrule(rulename)
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Re: Rule request thread

Postby Hdjensofjfnen » September 25th, 2018, 10:50 pm

Are the green cells matter or antimatter? :?
Life is hard. Deal with it.
This is my new favorite spaceship:
x = 8, y = 4, rule = B3-ek/S023
bobo$2obo3bo$bobo$3bo!
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Re: Rule request thread

Postby KittyTac » September 26th, 2018, 12:55 am

Hdjensofjfnen wrote:Are the green cells matter or antimatter? :?

That's the whole point, they are identical. I like to think of them as antimatter.
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Re: Rule request thread

Postby KittyTac » September 26th, 2018, 11:04 am

A bug:
x = 7, y = 7, rule = Energetic
.J3.F$2D3.2D4$2H3.FH$.J3.F!
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Re: Rule request thread

Postby PkmnQ » September 27th, 2018, 5:03 am

I don't know if this is possible, but if it is, can you create Life but it's on a corner neighbourhood, so a glider would look like this:
x = 5, y = 5, rule = B3/S23
$bo$4bo$bobo$2bo!
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Re: Rule request thread

Postby Gamedziner » September 27th, 2018, 6:27 am

PkmnQ wrote:I don't know if this is possible, but if it is, can you create Life but it's on a corner neighbourhood, so a glider would look like this:
x = 5, y = 5, rule = B3/S23
$bo$4bo$bobo$2bo!

A range 1 rule would either never expand or be explosive. This does not apply to asymmetric MAP rules.
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Re: Rule request thread

Postby PkmnQ » September 27th, 2018, 6:42 am

Gamedziner wrote:
PkmnQ wrote:-

A range 1 rule would either never expand or be explosive. This does not apply to asymmetric MAP rules.

What?
It's just gonna be like normal Life, but the neighbourhood looks like this:
x = 5, y = 5, rule = 12/34/3
2.A$.A.A$A.B.A$.A.A$2.A!

(The state 2 cell is the center)
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Re: Rule request thread

Postby bprentice » September 27th, 2018, 7:20 am

PkmnQ,

You can run your rule on SquareCell referenced here:

viewtopic.php?f=11&t=1003

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Re: Rule request thread

Postby Macbi » October 12th, 2018, 6:29 am

I'm looking for a rule where random soups evolve into lots of diagonal spaceships and not too much else. At the moment the best I've found is B36n7c/S2ae3jnr:
x = 200, y = 200, rule = B36n7c/S2ae3jnr:T200,200
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Can anyone suggest one that creates even more diagonal ships? It's okay if they eventually crash into each other.
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Re: Rule request thread

Postby 83bismuth38 » October 13th, 2018, 2:58 pm

I've decided i don't have enough of a life, and will now take on the Three-Layer Life rule. obviously, I'm going to use the two-layer version as a starting point. Wish me luck...
x = 8, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
3b2o$3b2o$2b3o$4bobo$2obobobo$3bo2bo$2bobo2bo$2bo4bo$2bo4bo$2bo!

No football of any dui mauris said that.
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Re: Rule request thread

Postby DoggyDogWhirl » October 13th, 2018, 4:59 pm

gameoflifemaniac wrote:Is it possible do a cellular automaton that would emulate Larger than Life?
The icons would look like this:

I imagine one could make an R2 rule.
It would take forever, though, since you'd have to make a transition for almost every combination of 9 cells of any of 16 states. (16^9 = 68,719,476,736 transitions. You'd have to make some serious shortcuts. If you still really don't have a life when you're done bismuth, perhaps you could try this.)

I have made the icons, though, but I do have a couple things to mention:
State 0 does not seem to use an icon, which is a problem for the whole aesthetic of this idea. (If it isn't possible to give an icon to state 0, you could remove the first icon in each pixel size. The icon for state 0 gets pushed to state 1 otherwise.)
If you zoom out past 8 pixels per cell, I'm sure you know that Golly uses a solid color for each cell. I used a gradient of grey -> yellow for these, based on the number of "cells" turned on in it, but I don't think it looks that good.

EDIT: Both problems are now "resolved". It turns out you can't give an icon to state 0, which is a shame. I think I also figured out a way to make the colors look a little better.

@RULE LargerThanLifeEmulator
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neighborhood:Moore
symmetries:none

#No table yet, I've just made the icons

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Re: Rule request thread

Postby dvgrn » October 13th, 2018, 7:11 pm

83bismuth38 wrote:I've decided i don't have enough of a life, and will now take on the Three-Layer Life rule. obviously, I'm going to use the two-layer version as a starting point. Wish me luck...

Good luck!

Do you mean starting with the template TripleB3S23 rule table?

And also, write a script to write out the rule lines for you. Life's too short to write out all those lines by hand, and (especially) to debug problems when you make some subtle copy/paste error somewhere.
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Re: Rule request thread

Postby Naszvadi » October 14th, 2018, 11:06 am

Macbi wrote:I'm looking for a rule where random soups evolve into lots of diagonal spaceships and not too much else. At the moment the best I've found is B36n7c/S2ae3jnr:
rle

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A little number of (un)interesting reactions:
x = 101, y = 109, rule = B36n7c/S2ae3jnr
2obo$ob2o3$4b2obo$4bob2o3$8b2obo$8bob2o3$12b2obo$12bob2o3$16b2obo$16bo
b2o3$20b2obo$20bob2o3$24b2obo$24bob2o3$28b2obo$28bob2o3$32b2obo$32bob
2o3$36b2obo$36bob2o3$40b2obo$40bob2o3$44b2obo$44bob2o3$48b2obo38b2o$
48bob2o36bo2bo$88b2o3$50b2o$49bobo$49b3o38b3o$90bo$91bo2$49b2obo$49bob
2o3$53b2obo$53bob2o3$57b2obo$57bob2o3$61b2obo$61bob2o3$65b2obo$65bob2o
3$69b2obo$69bob2o3$73b2obo$73bob2o3$77b2obo$77bob2o3$81b2obo$81bob2o3$
85b2obo$85bob2o3$89b2obo$89bob2o3$93b2obo$93bob2o3$97b2obo$97bob2o!
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Re: Rule request thread

Postby 83bismuth38 » October 15th, 2018, 5:56 pm

dvgrn wrote:
83bismuth38 wrote:blah blah overestimating how difficult this will be

Good luck!

Do you mean starting with the template TripleB3S23 rule table?

And also, write a script to write out the rule lines for you. Life's too short to write out all those lines by hand, and (especially) to debug problems when you make some subtle copy/paste error somewhere.

That's funny, because I started working on it about an hour ago, and I have made incredible progress by hand. It's honestly not that complex, it just take a while to figure out the basic chunks of transitions and then it's copy paste from there. Currently working on complex survival... which, and I don't want to sound too sure of myself, is likely the last step before the rule is completely finished.
EDIT: and that's why I didn't want to sound too sure of myself. It's still got a ton of work needed. And I'll look at the TripleB3S23 rule.
x = 8, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
3b2o$3b2o$2b3o$4bobo$2obobobo$3bo2bo$2bobo2bo$2bo4bo$2bo4bo$2bo!

No football of any dui mauris said that.
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Re: Rule request thread

Postby 83bismuth38 » October 16th, 2018, 6:04 pm

I've worked on this for a day and a half, and i'm getting a bit bored. if somebody would like to finish the rule, here it is, as complete as anybody has gotten so far iirc.
@RULE ThreeUniverses

@TABLE
n_states:8
neighborhood:Moore
symmetries:permute
var !={1,2,3,4,5,6,7}
var a={0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7}
var b=a
var c=a
var d=a
var e=a
var f=a
var g=a
var h=a

var ia={0,2,3,6}
var ib=ia
var ic=ia
var id=ia
var ie=ia
var if=ia

var ja={0,1,3,5}
var jb=ja
var jc=ja
var jd=ja
var je=ja
var jf=ja

var ka={0,1,2,4}
var kb=ka
var kc=ka
var kd=ka
var ke=ka
var kf=ka

var la={0,3}
var lb=la
var lc=la
var ld=la
var le=la
var lf=la

var ma={0,2}
var mb=ma
var mc=ma
var md=ma
var me=ma
var mf=ma

var na={0,1}
var nb=na
var nc=na
var nd=na
var ne=na
var nf=na

var oa={1,4}
var ob=oa
var oc={0,oa}

var pa={1,5}
var pb=pa
var pc={0,pa}

var qa={2,4}
var qb=qa
var qc={0,qa}

var ra={2,6}
var rb=ra
var rc={0,ra}

var sa={3,5}
var sb=sa
var sc={0,sa}

var ta={3,6}
var tb=ta
var tc={0,ta}

var $={0,7}

var ua={1,4,5,7}
var ub=ua
var uc=ua

var va={2,4,6,7}
var vb=va
var vc=va

var wa={3,5,6,7}
var wb=wa
var wc=wa

var xa={4,7}
var xb=xa
var xc=xa

var ya={5,7}
var yb=ya
var yc=ya

var za={6,7}
var zb=za
var zc=za

##complex birth and survival

a,1,1,1,3,3,6,2,2,7
a,3,3,3,2,2,4,1,1,7
a,2,2,2,1,1,5,3,3,7
a,1,1,4,2,6,3,3,0,7
a,2,2,6,3,5,1,1,0,7
a,3,3,5,1,4,2,2,0,7
a,1,4,4,2,3,3,3,0,7
a,1,5,5,3,2,2,2,0,7
a,2,6,6,3,1,1,1,0,7
a,4,4,4,3,3,3,0,0,7
a,5,5,5,2,2,2,0,0,7
a,6,6,6,1,1,1,0,0,7
a,4,4,7,3,3,0,0,0,7
a,5,5,7,2,2,0,0,0,7
a,6,6,7,1,1,0,0,0,7
a,4,7,7,3,0,0,0,0,7
a,5,7,7,2,0,0,0,0,7
a,6,7,7,1,0,0,0,0,7
a,7,7,7,0,0,0,0,0,7

!,1,1,2,2,2,3,3,3,7
!,2,2,1,1,1,3,3,3,7
!,3,3,1,1,1,2,2,2,7
!,1,1,2,2,6,3,3,0,7
!,2,2,1,1,5,3,3,0,7
!,3,3,1,1,4,2,2,0,7
!,1,1,2,6,6,3,0,0,7
!,2,2,1,5,5,3,0,0,7
!,3,3,1,4,4,2,0,0,7
!,1,1,6,6,6,0,0,0,7
!,2,2,5,5,5,0,0,0,7
!,3,3,4,4,4,0,0,0,7
!,1,4,2,2,3,3,3,0,7
!,1,5,3,3,2,2,2,0,7
!,2,4,1,1,3,3,3,0,7
!,2,6,3,3,1,1,1,0,7
!,3,5,1,1,2,2,2,0,7
!,3,6,2,2,1,1,1,0,7
!,1,4,2,6,3,3,0,0,7
!,1,5,3,6,2,2,0,0,7
!,2,4,1,5,3,3,0,0,7
!,2,6,3,5,1,1,0,0,7
!,3,5,1,4,2,2,0,0,7
!,3,6,2,4,1,1,0,0,7
!,1,4,6,6,3,0,0,0,7
!,1,5,6,6,2,0,0,0,7
!,2,4,5,5,3,0,0,0,7
!,2,6,5,5,1,0,0,0,7
!,3,5,4,4,2,0,0,0,7
!,3,6,4,4,1,0,0,0,7

ka,1,1,1,2,2,2,la,lb,4
ka,1,1,4,2,2,la,lb,lc,4
ka,1,4,4,2,la,lb,lc,ld,4

ja,1,1,1,3,3,3,ma,mb,5
ja,1,1,5,3,3,ma,mb,mc,5
ja,1,5,5,3,ma,mb,mc,md,5

ia,2,2,2,3,3,3,na,nb,6
ia,2,2,6,3,3,na,nb,nc,6
ia,2,6,6,3,na,nb,nc,nd,6

na,1,1,4,ia,ib,ic,id,ie,1
na,1,4,4,ia,ib,ic,id,ie,1
na,1,1,5,ia,ib,ic,id,ie,1
na,1,5,5,ia,ib,ic,id,ie,1

ma,2,2,4,ja,jb,jc,jd,je,2
ma,2,4,4,ja,jb,jc,jd,je,2
ma,2,2,6,ja,jb,jc,jd,je,2
ma,2,6,6,ja,jb,jc,jd,je,2

la,3,3,5,ka,kb,kc,kd,ke,3
la,3,5,5,ka,kb,kc,kd,ke,3
la,3,3,6,ka,kb,kc,kd,ke,3
la,3,6,6,ka,kb,kc,kd,ke,3

2,1,1,1,ra,rb,rc,la,lb,4
3,1,1,1,ta,tb,tc,ma,mb,5
1,2,2,2,pa,pb,pc,la,lb,4
3,2,2,2,sa,sb,sc,na,nb,6
1,3,3,3,oa,ob,oc,ma,mb,5
2,3,3,3,qa,qb,qc,na,nb,6

4,4,1,la,lb,lc,ld,le,lf,1
4,4,2,la,lb,lc,ld,le,lf,2
5,5,1,ma,mb,mc,md,me,mf,1
5,5,3,ma,mb,mc,md,me,mf,3
6,6,2,na,nb,nc,nd,ne,nf,2
6,6,3,na,nb,nc,nd,ne,nf,3

1,ua,ub,uc,ia,ib,ic,id,ie,1
1,ua,ub,ia,ib,ic,id,ie,if,1
2,va,vb,vc,ja,jb,jc,jd,je,2
2,va,vb,ja,jb,jc,jd,je,jf,2
3,wa,wb,wc,ka,kb,kc,kd,ke,3
3,wa,wb,ka,kb,kc,kd,ke,kf,3
4,xa,xb,xc,la,lb,lc,ld,le,4
4,xa,xb,la,lb,lc,ld,le,lf,4
5,ya,yb,yc,ma,mb,mc,md,me,5
5,ya,yb,ma,mb,mc,md,me,mf,5
6,za,zb,zc,na,nb,nc,nd,ne,6
6,za,zb,na,nb,nc,nd,ne,nf,6

4,1,1,2,2,2,la,lb,lc,4
4,1,1,1,2,2,la,lb,lc,4
4,1,1,4,2,la,lb,lc,ld,4
4,1,4,2,2,la,lb,lc,ld,4
4,1,4,4,la,lb,lc,ld,le,4
4,2,4,4,la,lb,lc,ld,le,4
4,4,4,la,lb,lc,ld,le,lf,4

5,1,1,3,3,3,ma,mb,mc,5
5,1,1,1,3,3,ma,mb,mc,5
5,1,1,5,3,ma,mb,mc,md,5
5,1,5,3,3,ma,mb,mc,md,5
5,1,5,5,ma,mb,mc,md,me,5
5,3,5,5,ma,mb,mc,md,me,5
5,5,5,ma,mb,mc,md,me,mf,5

6,2,2,3,3,3,na,nb,nc,6
6,2,2,2,3,3,na,nb,nc,6
6,2,2,6,3,na,nb,nc,nd,6
6,2,6,3,3,na,nb,nc,nd,6
6,2,6,6,na,nb,nc,nd,ne,6
6,3,6,6,na,nb,nc,nd,ne,6
6,6,6,na,nb,nc,nd,ne,nf,6


##basic birth and survival
na,1,1,1,ia,ib,ic,id,ie,1
1,1,1,ia,ib,ic,id,ie,if,1

ma,2,2,2,ja,jb,jc,jd,je,2
2,2,2,ja,jb,jc,jd,je,jf,2

la,3,3,3,ka,kb,kc,kd,ke,3
3,3,3,ka,kb,kc,kd,ke,kf,3

ka,4,4,4,la,lb,lc,ld,le,4
4,4,4,la,lb,lc,ld,le,lf,4

ja,5,5,5,ma,mb,mc,md,me,5
5,5,5,ma,mb,mc,md,me,mf,5

ia,6,6,6,na,nb,nc,nd,ne,6
6,6,6,na,nb,nc,nd,ne,nf,6

$,7,7,7,0,0,0,0,0,7
7,7,7,0,0,0,0,0,0,7


!,a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,0


@COLORS
0 0 0 0
1 255 0 0
2 0 255 0
3 0 0 255
4 255 255 0
5 255 0 255
6 0 255 255
7 255 255 255
x = 8, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
3b2o$3b2o$2b3o$4bobo$2obobobo$3bo2bo$2bobo2bo$2bo4bo$2bo4bo$2bo!

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Re: Rule request thread

Postby muzik » October 29th, 2018, 6:19 am

Can I get the symmetrical version of this rule? (in the sense that rule 90 is the symmetrical equivalent of rule 60):

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=rule+8229,+k%3D3
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Re: Rule request thread

Postby AforAmpere » October 29th, 2018, 7:47 pm

muzik wrote:Can I get the symmetrical version of this rule? (in the sense that rule 90 is the symmetrical equivalent of rule 60):


I believe it is rule 4261763181, k=3, r=1.
Things to work on:
- Find a (7,1)c/8 ship in a Non-totalistic rule (someone please search the rules)
- Find a C/10 in JustFriends
- Find a C/10 in Day and Night
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Re: Rule request thread

Postby muzik » October 31st, 2018, 7:13 am

What rule traces out the mod-4 pascal triangle? And the "false" mod-4 triangle in the pascal replicators thread?
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Re: Rule request thread

Postby muzik » November 2nd, 2018, 6:39 am

Range-2 rule that follows this evolution sequence (or something similar)?
x = 209, y = 17, rule = B/S012345678
192bo3bo3bo3bo3bo2$144b3obobobob3o$144b3obobobob3o$96bobobobobo39b3obo
bobob3o35bo3bo3bo3bo3bo2$48b5o43bobobobobo39b3obobobob3o$48b5o$o47b5o
43bobobobobo39b3obobobob3o35bo3bo3bo3bo3bo$48b5o$48b5o43bobobobobo39b
3obobobob3o2$96bobobobobo39b3obobobob3o35bo3bo3bo3bo3bo$144b3obobobob
3o$144b3obobobob3o2$192bo3bo3bo3bo3bo!
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