apgsearch - haul requests

[Apple Bottom]

Sorry I forgot to edit my previous post: some of these rules do give explosive soup! Especially along the line of symmetry.

No problem at all, just wanted to mention it.

On that note, this rule:

B2ekn3eijn4iktwy5acnry6-in7e8/S2cik3-eikq4aqyz5-eijr6-ce8_gunpossible

also exhibited similar behavior (I stopped searching it when I noticed).

[shouldsee]

On that note, this rule:

B2ekn3eijn4iktwy5acnry6-in7e8/S2cik3-eikq4aqyz5-eijr6-ce8_gunpossible

also exhibited similar behavior (I stopped searching it when I noticed).

A little taming should do the trick. @drc @AbhpzTa.

[shouldsee]

Can we program apgsearch to bypass pathology like this?

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x = 7, y = 32, rule = B2cei3aciry4certw5aejkny78/S1e2in3aejny4eiknqtwy5ceijny6acn8
2bobo$3bo$3bo$3bo$3bo$3bo$2b3o$3bo$3bo$3bo$3bo$2b3o$b5o$7o$7o$7o$7o$7o
$7o$b5o$2b3o$3bo$3bo$3bo$3bo$2b3o$3bo$3bo$3bo$3bo$3bo$2bobo!

[shouldsee]

b2ck3akny4ijnq5-acenq6an8s1-c2-cei3en4-irwy5aijq6-cei7
has a yl2

[Naszvadi]

I would like to add these to the investigated rules - 32 Neumann-B0 rules - with /C1 symmetry:

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1:B01234/S0123V ('B/S4V', 'B1234/S01234V') = B01c2cn3c4c1e2ak3inqy4ny5e2ei3kajr4kaiqtwz5kajr6ei3e4jr5inqy6ak7e4e5c6cn7c8/S01c2cn3c4c1e2ak3inqy4ny5e2ei3kajr4kaiqtwz5kajr6ei3e4jr5inqy6ak7e
2:B01234/S013V ('B/S24V', 'B134/S01234V') = B01c2cn3c4c1e2ak3inqy4ny5e2ei3kajr4kaiqtwz5kajr6ei3e4jr5inqy6ak7e4e5c6cn7c8/S01c2cn3c4c1e2ak3inqy4ny5e3e4jr5inqy6ak7e
3:B01234/S123V ('B/S04V', 'B123/S01234V') = B01c2cn3c4c1e2ak3inqy4ny5e2ei3kajr4kaiqtwz5kajr6ei3e4jr5inqy6ak7e4e5c6cn7c8/S1e2ak3inqy4ny5e2ei3kajr4kaiqtwz5kajr6ei3e4jr5inqy6ak7e
4:B01234/S13V ('B/S024V', 'B13/S01234V') = B01c2cn3c4c1e2ak3inqy4ny5e2ei3kajr4kaiqtwz5kajr6ei3e4jr5inqy6ak7e4e5c6cn7c8/S1e2ak3inqy4ny5e3e4jr5inqy6ak7e
5:B0123/S0123V ('B4/S4V', 'B1234/S1234V') = B01c2cn3c4c1e2ak3inqy4ny5e2ei3kajr4kaiqtwz5kajr6ei3e4jr5inqy6ak7e/S01c2cn3c4c1e2ak3inqy4ny5e2ei3kajr4kaiqtwz5kajr6ei3e4jr5inqy6ak7e
6:B0123/S013V ('B4/S24V', 'B134/S1234V') = B01c2cn3c4c1e2ak3inqy4ny5e2ei3kajr4kaiqtwz5kajr6ei3e4jr5inqy6ak7e/S01c2cn3c4c1e2ak3inqy4ny5e3e4jr5inqy6ak7e
7:B0123/S123V ('B4/S04V', 'B123/S1234V') = B01c2cn3c4c1e2ak3inqy4ny5e2ei3kajr4kaiqtwz5kajr6ei3e4jr5inqy6ak7e/S1e2ak3inqy4ny5e2ei3kajr4kaiqtwz5kajr6ei3e4jr5inqy6ak7e
8:B0123/S13V ('B4/S024V', 'B13/S1234V') = B01c2cn3c4c1e2ak3inqy4ny5e2ei3kajr4kaiqtwz5kajr6ei3e4jr5inqy6ak7e/S1e2ak3inqy4ny5e3e4jr5inqy6ak7e
9:B0124/S0123V ('B3/S4V', 'B1234/S0234V') = B01c2cn3c4c1e2ak3inqy4ny5e2ei3kajr4kaiqtwz5kajr6ei4e5c6cn7c8/S01c2cn3c4c1e2ak3inqy4ny5e2ei3kajr4kaiqtwz5kajr6ei3e4jr5inqy6ak7e
10:B0124/S013V ('B3/S24V', 'B134/S0234V') = B01c2cn3c4c1e2ak3inqy4ny5e2ei3kajr4kaiqtwz5kajr6ei4e5c6cn7c8/S01c2cn3c4c1e2ak3inqy4ny5e3e4jr5inqy6ak7e
11:B0124/S123V ('B3/S04V', 'B123/S0234V') = B01c2cn3c4c1e2ak3inqy4ny5e2ei3kajr4kaiqtwz5kajr6ei4e5c6cn7c8/S1e2ak3inqy4ny5e2ei3kajr4kaiqtwz5kajr6ei3e4jr5inqy6ak7e
12:B0124/S13V ('B3/S024V', 'B13/S0234V') = B01c2cn3c4c1e2ak3inqy4ny5e2ei3kajr4kaiqtwz5kajr6ei4e5c6cn7c8/S1e2ak3inqy4ny5e3e4jr5inqy6ak7e
13:B012/S0123V ('B34/S4V', 'B1234/S234V') = B01c2cn3c4c1e2ak3inqy4ny5e2ei3kajr4kaiqtwz5kajr6ei/S01c2cn3c4c1e2ak3inqy4ny5e2ei3kajr4kaiqtwz5kajr6ei3e4jr5inqy6ak7e
14:B012/S013V ('B34/S24V', 'B134/S234V') = B01c2cn3c4c1e2ak3inqy4ny5e2ei3kajr4kaiqtwz5kajr6ei/S01c2cn3c4c1e2ak3inqy4ny5e3e4jr5inqy6ak7e
15:B012/S123V ('B34/S04V', 'B123/S234V') = B01c2cn3c4c1e2ak3inqy4ny5e2ei3kajr4kaiqtwz5kajr6ei/S1e2ak3inqy4ny5e2ei3kajr4kaiqtwz5kajr6ei3e4jr5inqy6ak7e
16:B012/S13V ('B34/S024V', 'B13/S234V') = B01c2cn3c4c1e2ak3inqy4ny5e2ei3kajr4kaiqtwz5kajr6ei/S1e2ak3inqy4ny5e3e4jr5inqy6ak7e
17:B024/S01V ('B13/S234V', 'B34/S024V') = B01c2cn3c4c2ei3kajr4kaiqtwz5kajr6ei4e5c6cn7c8/S01c2cn3c4c1e2ak3inqy4ny5e
18:B024/S0V ('B13/S1234V', 'B4/S024V') = B01c2cn3c4c2ei3kajr4kaiqtwz5kajr6ei4e5c6cn7c8/S01c2cn3c4c
19:B024/S1V ('B13/S0234V', 'B3/S024V') = B01c2cn3c4c2ei3kajr4kaiqtwz5kajr6ei4e5c6cn7c8/S1e2ak3inqy4ny5e
20:B024/SV ('B13/S01234V', 'B/S024V') = B01c2cn3c4c2ei3kajr4kaiqtwz5kajr6ei4e5c6cn7c8/S
21:B02/S01V ('B134/S234V', 'B34/S24V') = B01c2cn3c4c2ei3kajr4kaiqtwz5kajr6ei/S01c2cn3c4c1e2ak3inqy4ny5e
22:B02/S0V ('B134/S1234V', 'B4/S24V') = B01c2cn3c4c2ei3kajr4kaiqtwz5kajr6ei/S01c2cn3c4c
23:B02/S1V ('B134/S0234V', 'B3/S24V') = B01c2cn3c4c2ei3kajr4kaiqtwz5kajr6ei/S1e2ak3inqy4ny5e
24:B02/SV ('B134/S01234V', 'B/S24V') = B01c2cn3c4c2ei3kajr4kaiqtwz5kajr6ei/S
25:B04/S01V ('B123/S234V', 'B34/S04V') = B01c2cn3c4c4e5c6cn7c8/S01c2cn3c4c1e2ak3inqy4ny5e
26:B04/S0V ('B123/S1234V', 'B4/S04V') = B01c2cn3c4c4e5c6cn7c8/S01c2cn3c4c
27:B04/S1V ('B123/S0234V', 'B3/S04V') = B01c2cn3c4c4e5c6cn7c8/S1e2ak3inqy4ny5e
28:B04/SV ('B123/S01234V', 'B/S04V') = B01c2cn3c4c4e5c6cn7c8/S
29:B0/S01V ('B1234/S234V', 'B34/S4V') = B01c2cn3c4c/S01c2cn3c4c1e2ak3inqy4ny5e
30:B0/S0V ('B1234/S1234V', 'B4/S4V') = B01c2cn3c4c/S01c2cn3c4c
31:B0/S1V ('B1234/S0234V', 'B3/S4V') = B01c2cn3c4c/S1e2ak3inqy4ny5e
32:B0/SV ('B1234/S01234V', 'B/S4V') = B01c2cn3c4c/S

The original list is here: http://conwaylife.com/forums/viewtopic. ... 233#p40991

A standalone python utility to convert Neumann rulestring to life-like: http://conwaylife.com/forums/viewtopic. ... 502#p38502

A glider in one of the above rules:

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x = 4, y = 3, rule = B02/SV
bo$obo$2b2o!

The other request group is: all outer-totalistic apg-searchable rules between B3/S23 - B3678/S23678
See more at here (OP and others): http://conwaylife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=2597

Especially these 35 rules that do not have constucted glider guns:

1. B3678/S23
2. B3678/S236
3. B3678/S2367
4. B3678/S23678
5. B3678/S2368
6. B3678/S237
7. B3678/S2378
8. B3678/S238
9. B367/S23
10. B367/S236
11. B367/S2367
12. B367/S23678
13. B367/S2368
14. B367/S237
15. B367/S2378
16. B367/S238
17. B368/S236
18. B368/S2367
19. B368/S23678
20. B368/S2368
21. B368/S237
22. B368/S2378
23. B36/S236
24. B36/S2367
25. B36/S23678
26. B36/S2368
27. B378/S23
28. B378/S236
29. B378/S2367
30. B378/S23678
31. B378/S2368
32. B37/S2367
33. B37/S23678
34. B37/S2368
35. B37/S2378

Thanks for all the fish!

[Apple Bottom]

Especially these 35 rules that do not have constucted glider guns:

1. B3678/S23
2. B3678/S236
3. B3678/S2367
4. B3678/S23678
5. B3678/S2368
6. B3678/S237
7. B3678/S2378
8. B3678/S238
9. B367/S23
10. B367/S236
11. B367/S2367
12. B367/S23678
13. B367/S2368
14. B367/S237
15. B367/S2378
16. B367/S238
17. B368/S236
18. B368/S2367
19. B368/S23678
20. B368/S2368
21. B368/S237
22. B368/S2378
23. B36/S236
24. B36/S2367
25. B36/S23678
26. B36/S2368
27. B378/S23
28. B378/S236
29. B378/S2367
30. B378/S23678
31. B378/S2368
32. B37/S2367
33. B37/S23678
34. B37/S2368
35. B37/S2378

Thanks for all the fish!

I haven't checked every single one, but I think these are all explosive (and thus don't lend themselves to soup-searching).

[Naszvadi]

Especially these 35 rules...

I haven't checked every single one, but I think these are all explosive (and thus don't lend themselves to soup-searching).

All'em are exploding

[shouldsee]

B2ce3ak4acekqtwz5ikn6aci7e/S12ai3ik4cejnqtw5ijnqr6i8


Another somehow related messages: I have just finished my first 2^18 batch of non-totalistic rules. You might notice this just corresponds to the size of totalistic rulespace, but only represents 1 / 2^84 of the non-totalistic rulespace ........ I think this thing definitely needs more automation.....

At the moment I am combining brain power and CPU power to conduct the searching

• CPU time: Searching 2^18 rules takes approximately 1.32E6 seconds on my Xeon E5620 at 6 threads. This means 7.92E6 secs for a single thread.
• Manual annotation: I have just manually annotated the complex dynamics within a set of 30/512*2^18 rules in 30 mins/1800 seconds. Thus annotating 2^18 rules will approximately takes 3120s. In other words one skilled person can finish annotating the totalistic BS-rulespace within 1 hour if preliminary CPU search is done.

(*:The annotation here includes flagging for diagonal strips in their DensiFluct profiles only.)

Conclusion: CPU time is the limiting factor so far. Annotation speed is approximately equivalent to parallel contribution of 2540 threads (7.92E6 / 3.12E3).

(I am feeling quite flattered to be a 2540-core processor so far.)

[Bullet51]

B2ce3ak4acekqtwz5ikn6aci7e/S12ai3ik4cejnqtw5ijnqr6i8

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@SEARCH apgsearch-isotropic v0.2
@MD5 a0b195ec51baf62f19738c086ffb771e
@ROOT 2017-03-15T11:22:21_
@RULE B2ce3ak4acekqtwz5ikn6aci7e_S12ai3ik4cejnqtw5ijnqr6i8
@SYMMETRY C0
@NUM_SOUPS 481725
@NUM_OBJECTS 1513100

@CENSUS TABLE
xs2_3 593810
xq4_15 449902
xp2_5 221451
xq4_255 92695
xp2_13 68281
xp4_27 27093
xs3_7 26939
xs1_0_diehard 12519
xp4_154 5707
xp10_29m 4084
xp2_272 3895
xs4_f 1168
xp6_l0l 884
xq4_43gk 530
xq4_22hk 452
xq4_20j0o 417
xq4_2i1o 365
xq4_20308a 335
xq4_2aw16 295
xs5_v 286
xq4_45wgc 286
xq4_22h0o 269
xq4_5hz3 228
xp4_9f9 202
xq4_221gk 175
xq4_203gk 148
xq4_203g0o 133
xp8_15wa8 63
xp4_238s 41
xp2_3wlw3 37
xp20_w8idzc 30
xp10_11wm92 27
xp2_238c 19
xq4_2030gk 18
xp2_3wlw44 16
xp2_3wlwo 16
xp4_131sk 16
xq4_2aw15 15
xq4_343zxa1a 14
xp14_lzaz1 13
xp10_2h5owa 11
xp10_26xm92 10
xp4_5050505 9
xp2_23028c 8
xp2_3wlxa 8
xp4_131c46 7
xs11_444v444 7
xq4_255y08kk 7
xp4_131c4c 5
xq4_4a0ax4a0h 5
xq4_343w686 5
xs6_vz1 5
xp2_44wlxa 4
xq4_255x8kk 4
xp10_29mz62 4
xq4_2cw15 4
xp6_hrh 3
xq4_3430k2k 3
xq4_255zx255 3
xq4_040laaz4aa 3
xp2_owlw3z1 3
xq4_585zw28g82 3
xp2_31wlw3 3
xs7_vz3 2
xp4_1318o8 2
xp10_23g8gk8 2
xq4_616zy0585 2
xp2_13o31 2
xs8_9669 2
xp8_272027 2
xq4_9g304kz01 2
xp10_111wm92 2
xp10_77708id 2
xp2_2u5c 2
xq4_x4k015z15 2
xq4_a1azy0343 2
xp4_13hs4 2
xq4_343zw43k34 2
xp10_23xm92 2
xq4_w40laaz255 2
xp4_131sss 2
xp2_31wlwo 2
xq4_0343zk2k 2
xp2_60k0k07 2
xp4_1310s8 2
xq4_w89g3z15 2
xp2_11l0kzx6 1
xp2_gog777z01 1
xp20_w8hk3waz3 1
xq4_5hz3wa2 1
xq4_044815z16 1
xq4_088h5z2c 1
xp2_31wlw44 1
xq4_343zx43k34 1
xp20_5708id 1
xp20_29mxea 1
xq4_014841zaga 1
xq4_0616zaga 1
xq4_wo1i2z68 1
xp2_238s8 1
xp2_32wlwo 1
xq4_343zwa1a 1
xq4_04k103z2a 1
xp10_23zw29m 1
xp2_130ar 1
xq4_04kw16z16 1
xq4_044815z15 1
xq4_w4o015z16 1
xp20_l0lzxc28gk 1
xq4_w4o103z16 1
xq4_2505xkk8 1
xq4_080p03z2a 1
xq4_5hgz10o4 1
xq4_w4k103z15 1
xp20_8idzy1ea 1
xq4_w80o103z2a 1
xp10_6408id 1
xq4_04p03z2a 1
xp2_g0a0b2z11 1
xp10_8idzy162 1
xp2_60l0l06 1
xp4_230s832 1
xq4_0kh22z68 1
xq4_w80p03z15 1
xq4_wo1i2z34 1
xp2_32wlw444 1
xq4_w4p03z16 1
xq4_w4p03z15 1
xq4_gxkh22z22 1
xq4_0g034zkh01 1
xq4_2c0gg16z15x1 1
xp2_32wlw44 1
xq4_gwo1i2z22 1
xq4_wcg122z68 1
xp2_44wlw44 1
PATHOLOGICAL 1
xq4_45w86z221 1
xq4_08gh22z68 1
xq4_343zx343 1
xq4_w88h03z15 1
xq4_0gw616z303 1
xq4_08gg54z68 1

@TOP 100
36803 570
23415 530
279084 520
46643 520
237638 520
322985 510
458973 500
211724 500
5587 490
77659 490
475199 490
222628 490
384815 490
345698 480
27832 470
1228 460
438332 460
463285 460
226344 460
103617 460
464522 450
74332 450
79966 450
97972 450
114448 450
327482 450
263208 440
13837 440
408342 440
17185 440
281008 440
153273 440
422932 440
427279 440
36306 440
305576 440
444367 440
215612 440
323456 440
324783 440
377185 440
130742 440
137917 430
140397 430
27278 430
221453 430
98194 430
282994 420
419702 420
294445 420
34365 420
307252 420
328039 420
210681 420
480610 420
58489 420
117193 420
118958 420
63783 420
403753 410
23032 410
33929 410
183353 410
453470 410
61761 410
266993 400
408414 400
23681 400
418595 400
157971 400
43398 400
305858 400
44154 400
186687 400
188008 400
453659 400
332802 400
339025 400
91728 400
223994 400
100483 400
249244 400
255176 400
259556 400
132166 390
2038 390
161821 390
162305 390
170157 390
176352 390
59042 390
452998 390
65860 390
197531 390
67412 390
461499 390
208330 390
80031 390
215919 390
88520 390

@SAMPLE_SOUPIDS
xs2_3 419 378 530 695 1895 3015 3712 3945 4267 4252
xq4_15 217 219 220 222 214 215 212 223 216 224
xp2_5 212 211 202 196 205 190 194 187 182 180
xq4_255 219 215 220 205 181 194 175 151 164 157
xp2_13 218 224 200 184 182 193 187 168 170 154
xp4_27 163 154 132 120 90 60 59 48 28 3
xs3_7 167 163 146 140 67 38 20 13 3 4
xs1_0_diehard 11 40 49 103 104 106 138 236 244 374
xp4_154 180 69 74 58 304 340 429 569 672 591
xp10_29m 126 78 282 283 898 1073 1048 1327 1245 1168
xp2_272 408 614 514 822 953 1211 1398 1415 1489 1600
xs4_f 565 530 1187 2209 2648 3027 3031 3242 3942 3965
xp6_l0l 139 633 1727 2423 2274 2516 2748 4191 4379 5371
xq4_43gk 560 1001 2370 3343 4493 4522 5224 6594 7814 9291
xq4_22hk 658 1331 2488 3919 4261 6436 6660 8439 8696 10764
xq4_20j0o 837 1805 2572 2501 4946 5269 8138 8547 9593 9915
xq4_2i1o 2729 2992 2983 4572 5824 9086 10336 11126 15153 16649
xq4_20308a 1246 3531 5119 6990 11245 11440 12271 14041 14460 16128
xq4_2aw16 97 375 2560 3644 3946 5671 9395 11161 13495 15745
xs5_v 2029 3928 4133 4206 6661 7579 7810 8240 10279 11625
xq4_45wgc 1491 3096 3169 6228 10322 11826 12045 13863 15632 17421
xq4_22h0o 3386 7449 10983 11793 14754 16853 17423 17952 18442 22380
xq4_5hz3 529 3071 3457 5290 7653 15376 22985 23185 23477 23764
xp4_9f9 83 2597 6456 9689 12797 15753 17434 17603 22251 24589
xq4_221gk 1914 5717 6066 8061 9115 11538 12345 13092 19487 23218
xq4_203gk 1181 2024 14077 15500 15447 15835 22056 23612 24264 24973
xq4_203g0o 1651 5066 5215 6421 7184 8349 9136 11119 12988 21281
xp8_15wa8 12312 13689 14797 19489 24121 26968 61837 66454 91280 92527
xp4_238s 12757 13996 17093 23403 26915 39084 39375 44262 69238 82075
xp2_3wlw3 29417 36606 39224 64756 81181 87575 101997 124922 132781 138778
xp20_w8idzc 802 760 34221 35866 76379 76806 93732 96562 104264 104579
xp10_11wm92 7263 77481 102289 113126 128691 132750 159164 192280 195974 202846
xp2_238c 3669 73517 90928 110540 144744 183226 194220 202975 207479 281262
xq4_2030gk 12635 56041 92946 94184 128998 150679 175556 183921 185731 237579
xp2_3wlw44 93558 97173 105407 126134 136853 150150 222516 222661 229314 257519
xp2_3wlwo 833 79691 166119 215032 222658 232050 242478 263879 272521 275930
xp4_131sk 9692 69856 83003 108446 126569 130960 139062 147134 149118 155147
xq4_2aw15 75164 80881 102761 190192 240272 259002 300315 363498 369446 374321
xq4_343zxa1a 2528 30576 37231 59951 126938 245322 254248 287744 325475 341774
xp14_lzaz1 33066 67209 90284 132018 145392 164280 206314 235820 250768 262035
xp10_2h5owa 16717 67615 138097 179980 221573 236396 286197 292869 393134 470644
xp10_26xm92 9770 55319 94416 126329 132650 162004 167826 286003 328724 391161
xp4_5050505 53322 151275 264758 305980 329759 366818 374905 438416 444581
xp2_23028c 148187 195250 214470 216476 238199 238964 445905 476997
xp2_3wlxa 60565 64226 130844 182430 287900 355938 415713 471884
xp4_131c46 96667 100742 182565 280814 312479 354118 478867
xs11_444v444 55087 288443 297348 388062 403973 442843 459106
xq4_255y08kk 38943 108309 212844 260539 365455 399533 416263
xp4_131c4c 41559 146469 337147 436369 469251
xq4_4a0ax4a0h 57702 59888 139748 200580 366284
xq4_343w686 39254 43543 75426 267318
xs6_vz1 147678 153881 166311 177753 230249
xp2_44wlxa 42202 83419 429470 451694
xq4_255x8kk 87935 131066 273132 283586
xp10_29mz62 178949 342244 364128 416819
xq4_2cw15 194320 289054 328817 397844
xp6_hrh 285151 311813 432244
xq4_3430k2k 65860 89408 470149
xq4_255zx255 102261 210571 257578
xq4_040laaz4aa 36218 295184 460176
xp2_owlw3z1 107626 146296 163406
xq4_585zw28g82 153684 315517 370999
xp2_31wlw3 172387 192754 383726
xs7_vz3 86210 418027
xp4_1318o8 344499 477200
xp10_23g8gk8 93981 352313
xq4_616zy0585 60184 216812
xp2_13o31 39040 253315
xs8_9669 60327 231451
xp8_272027 175260 416707
xq4_9g304kz01 90231 323370
xp10_111wm92 22857 216564
xp10_77708id 325635 367489
xp2_2u5c 84484 123745
xq4_x4k015z15 126896 175348
xq4_a1azy0343 56515 304793
xp4_13hs4 35897 80830
xq4_343zw43k34 165293 455956
xp10_23xm92 156145 403294
xq4_w40laaz255 194381 464870
xp4_131sss 59348 298215
xp2_31wlwo 114951 321538
xq4_0343zk2k 18379 281002
xp2_60k0k07 168997 203469
xp4_1310s8 189520 470479
xq4_w89g3z15 333091 390297
xp2_11l0kzx6 221888
xp2_gog777z01 51859
xp20_w8hk3waz3 421544
xq4_5hz3wa2 109186
xq4_044815z16 163679
xq4_088h5z2c 409918
xp2_31wlw44 190645
xq4_343zx43k34 156825
xp20_5708id 191310
xp20_29mxea 230502
xq4_014841zaga 370614
xq4_0616zaga 313411
xq4_wo1i2z68 36885
xp2_238s8 12011
xp2_32wlwo 387461
xq4_343zwa1a 241576
xq4_04k103z2a 3032
xp10_23zw29m 127345
xp2_130ar 405345
xq4_04kw16z16 244555
xq4_044815z15 258227
xq4_w4o015z16 197558
xp20_l0lzxc28gk 291502
xq4_w4o103z16 149051
xq4_2505xkk8 31047
xq4_080p03z2a 275309
xq4_5hgz10o4 201959
xq4_w4k103z15 204565
xp20_8idzy1ea 187128
xq4_w80o103z2a 476129
xp10_6408id 9897
xq4_04p03z2a 324355
xp2_g0a0b2z11 472530
xp10_8idzy162 340273
xp2_60l0l06 166063
xp4_230s832 87872
xq4_0kh22z68 211848
xq4_w80p03z15 137834
xq4_wo1i2z34 362877
xp2_32wlw444 268920
xq4_w4p03z16 148330
xq4_w4p03z15 399214
xq4_gxkh22z22 453300
xq4_0g034zkh01 446103
xq4_2c0gg16z15x1 76447
xp2_32wlw44 421526
xq4_gwo1i2z22 313893
xq4_wcg122z68 65454
xp2_44wlw44 47811
PATHOLOGICAL 420386
xq4_45w86z221 79972
xq4_08gh22z68 472922
xq4_343zx343 240822
xq4_w88h03z15 80371
xq4_0gw616z303 387562
xq4_08gg54z68 459117

[Saka]

Is a haul of B3ai4e5ain6acn78/S34-r5ain6acn7c8 possible? Oh and B3ai4e5ain6acn78/S3-i45ain6acn7c8 thanks

[Apple Bottom]

Is a haul of B3ai4e5ain6acn78/S34-r5ain6acn7c8 possible?

Sure, I submitted one. (It just barely stayed below the 1 MiB limit Catagolue imposes, too.)

Oh and B3ai4e5ain6acn78/S3-i45ain6acn7c8 thanks

That one's faster, and hauls are more moderately-sized, so I'll leave it running for a while.

BTW, a general request: if you - that is to say anyone - submit a haul request, please try and verify that the rule/symmetry you're requesting can indeed be searched. Don't ask for explosive rules, for overproductive rules with producing overly large hauls, and so on. Ideally do a haul yourself first if you can to prove the rule can be soup-searched on Catagolue!

[fluffykitty]

(*:The annotation here includes flagging for diagonal strips only.)

Wouldn't it be possible to automatically detect diagonals to reduce the number of rules that have to be manually reviewed?

[shouldsee]

(*:The annotation here includes flagging for diagonal strips only.)

Wouldn't it be possible to automatically detect diagonals to reduce the number of rules that have to be manually reviewed?

That will be the idea. But we needs some kind of scalar metric (0/1).

EDIT: To disambiguate, I meant strip as in their calculated profiles.

[Rhombic]

B2i3ai47/S23 (B2i3ai4/S23 and related)
it has a reflectorless oscillator (xp184), no spaceships have been discovered but there surely must be some

[Saka]

Do hauls of B2cein3ajn4a5ain6acen78/S3ceikqy45ain6acen78 please. See if we can find a spaceship!

[Saka]

B2e3aeijn4c5i/S23-a please. My computers having a hard time with linear growth, though

[shouldsee]

4 xq and 1 xp132 in :
B2ce3aeikq4aeikw5c/S1367

variant with interesting reactions:
B2ce3aeikq4aeikw5ce8/S134ce67
Intermediate searching stress

[Bullet51]

4 xq and 1 xp132 in :
B2ce3aeikq4aeikw5c/S1367

variant with interesting reactions:
B2ce3aeikq4aeikw5ce8/S134ce67
Intermediate searching stress

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@SEARCH apgsearch-isotropic v0.2
@MD5 c5f2227dd302bc5f29902567fb31c802
@ROOT 2017-03-19T14:44:16_
@RULE B2ce3aeikq4aeikw5c_S1367
@SYMMETRY C0
@NUM_SOUPS 135675
@NUM_OBJECTS 620845

@CENSUS TABLE
xq4_15 200295
xs2_3 200112
xs4_33 75001
xp2_5 40274
xp2_36 33544
xp2_356 22030
xq10_37 12182
xp12_1e1 12063
xp4_35 11006
xs1_0_diehard 4306
xq12_7ae9 4239
OVERSIZED 4085
xp16_517 417
xp6_l0l 411
xp3_4ala4 115
xp6_1ac6 105
xq4_20j0o 104
xq4_2i1o 92
xq4_20308a 64
xq4_221gk 53
xq4_22h0o 41
xp26_12e66748 39
xq4_45wgc 38
xp8_rwr 34
xq4_5hz3 33
xp4_16eb 29
xp3_ll 19
xp16_b3cd 13
xs6_2a54 12
xq4_2030gk 8
xp12_5zw4b4 6
xq4_203g0o 5
yl192_1_12_351eac1f51c04feb02dee6f96247a687 4
xp12_2522zx6ac 4
xp12_x1e1z5 4
xp4_330qei 3
xq4_43wgc 3
xp12_1e1xcko 3
xp12_1e1x8go 3
xp4_5050505 3
xq10_27418oo 2
xp2_38u044 2
xq10_331x5b 2
xp12_anazy1ca 2
xq10_063az67 2
xq10_37zx73 2
xp12_4b4y0lrhae 1
xq10_0215z6e 1
xp12_56xata 1
xp14_lzaz1 1
xp12_w4j9j4zz4b4 1
xp12_312xv44e 1
xp12_1e1zy14a44 1
xp2_4jj4 1
xp4_1t8ck 1
xq4_2cw15 1
xp12_25272zx2iui2 1
xp12_4j9j4y0e44v 1
xp2_hohz0a 1
xp2_0o3oz22 1
xp12_4o4x19f91z01 1
xq10_37xe6 1
xp12_1e1y0ko 1
xp2_6jz115c8 1
xq10_037z6e 1
xp12_0gxe44vz5b5 1
xp12_2225x2iui2 1
xp12_0v44ezac 1
xp12_2225zy24b4 1
xp12_1e1zy256 1
xp12_1e1zy12s2 1
xq6_18gwe2c 1
xp2_1d0cz33 1
xp12_2252zy0v44e 1
xp12_1e1zy08k88 1
xp12_65zw444a 1
xp12_u88sy0eah4az1 1

@TOP 100
101574 26700
52094 23220
111690 16110
44142 14400
39674 14200
132166 14000
33667 13760
119878 13350
32555 11370
121929 10630
133678 10600
23317 10580
69558 10580
106112 10580
121959 10580
54447 10530
57517 10530
66222 10530
80967 10530
82666 10530
94136 10530
100878 10530
3720 10480
135562 10480
73842 10480
83123 10480
91642 10480
109134 10480
133418 10430
8581 10430
14324 10430
18759 10430
21782 10430
38360 10430
41132 10430
49273 10430
51174 10430
54810 10430
55531 10430
58307 10430
64940 10430
74963 10430
75220 10430
80643 10430
85461 10430
91326 10430
94952 10430
96123 10430
100035 10430
103179 10430
115297 10430
115572 10430
121294 10430
124064 10430
125315 10430
128080 10430
60277 10340
76130 10250
676 9960
57440 9060
67366 6500
132939 6450
9092 6400
66776 6400
62538 6120
64728 5860
106719 5730
46218 5680
47152 5680
63243 5680
104924 5680
107891 5680
131994 5630
2539 5630
22801 5630
54056 5630
72225 5630
95544 5630
117878 5630
133424 5580
5380 5580
8397 5580
15919 5580
26125 5580
41131 5580
46120 5580
50326 5580
88177 5580
89275 5580
100121 5580
111300 5580
113667 5580
118300 5580
74260 4790
110219 4770
20121 4140
117931 4140
11071 4090
15652 4090
78687 4090

@SAMPLE_SOUPIDS
xq4_15 223 222 217 214 220 211 215 221 219 224
xs2_3 185 181 118 68 56 3 418 351 501 519
xs4_33 118 101 351 256 634 673 667 530 732 789
xp2_5 223 218 224 199 196 208 185 186 184 192
xp2_36 219 217 221 214 223 209 203 195 199 198
xp2_356 221 215 223 210 199 202 203 201 191 185
xq10_37 222 201 182 177 158 138 114 105 113 96
xp12_1e1 200 209 190 179 156 154 124 113 99 85
xp4_35 214 217 219 196 182 168 160 158 145 134
xs1_0_diehard 12 30 40 61 67 103 107 135 137 147
xq12_7ae9 224 192 139 59 32 9 447 350 332 340
OVERSIZED 202 171 59 48 11 424 388 332 339 541
xp16_517 95 247 703 676 1788 1782 1644 1932 2064 2676
xp6_l0l 223 119 263 605 939 1609 2230 3307 3720 5001
xp3_4ala4 517 475 3720 6336 8581 8913 9663 10325 11025 11478
xp6_1ac6 3803 9374 9951 12078 12203 12527 13846 16607 16690 17703
xq4_20j0o 1737 2728 2930 7126 7611 7879 8515 9387 9268 9562
xq4_2i1o 1338 2576 2902 6783 11143 11071 15652 17082 17178 17656
xq4_20308a 6173 6815 8574 11941 12810 13118 15440 17243 19880 20099
xq4_221gk 1429 2759 4672 5007 12115 12914 14583 15077 16689 18523
xq4_22h0o 59 3114 6108 9959 11732 21008 23278 24187 28622 33667
xp26_12e66748 1681 6888 7070 7790 9225 10268 11638 12560 16072 16324
xq4_45wgc 1077 2574 5715 9909 11570 12690 15534 25306 28514 31796
xp8_rwr 8607 15207 19657 22831 29005 31396 32392 38571 40499 42519
xq4_5hz3 2644 2809 3321 8810 10499 11352 14142 18633 18526 24977
xp4_16eb 7372 9262 11989 15267 15290 23287 28426 33245 34026 36202
xp3_ll 223 12134 21589 36654 41450 42615 55435 57971 60389 61096
xp16_b3cd 4181 4629 8906 13174 41397 41222 80638 82351 87458 99762
xs6_2a54 23976 24286 42935 45009 59384 71728 85973 87073 91486 93261
xq4_2030gk 4558 22487 22818 41769 72397 99148 119359 135519
xp12_5zw4b4 2502 15125 15789 19539 38129 95994
xq4_203g0o 28296 31177 75347 95345 105938
yl192_1_12_351eac1f51c04feb02dee6f96247a687 39674 44142 119878 132166
xp12_2522zx6ac 8433 90145 109583 118685
xp12_x1e1z5 4903 26796 76076 96905
xp4_330qei 9078 44730 68266
xq4_43wgc 10093 49917 75004
xp12_1e1xcko 5455 23238 90455
xp12_1e1x8go 1645 59208 114173
xp4_5050505 47022 94973 110632
xq10_27418oo 59932 105824
xp2_38u044 44462 68308
xq10_331x5b 25231 107973
xp12_anazy1ca 21431 98646
xq10_063az67 45139 117198
xq10_37zx73 59676 66988
xp12_4b4y0lrhae 68683
xq10_0215z6e 49572
xp12_56xata 39493
xp14_lzaz1 65786
xp12_w4j9j4zz4b4 37180
xp12_312xv44e 58440
xp12_1e1zy14a44 111008
xp2_4jj4 77549
xp4_1t8ck 114019
xq4_2cw15 118038
xp12_25272zx2iui2 92714
xp12_4j9j4y0e44v 101020
xp2_hohz0a 119795
xp2_0o3oz22 105936
xp12_4o4x19f91z01 76924
xq10_37xe6 17754
xp12_1e1y0ko 32294
xp2_6jz115c8 23511
xq10_037z6e 5350
xp12_0gxe44vz5b5 20991
xp12_2225x2iui2 111191
xp12_0v44ezac 56059
xp12_2225zy24b4 5188
xp12_1e1zy256 130188
xp12_1e1zy12s2 60283
xq6_18gwe2c 100281
xp2_1d0cz33 112873
xp12_2252zy0v44e 84651
xp12_1e1zy08k88 109077
xp12_65zw444a 49693
xp12_u88sy0eah4az1 71767

The yl192 is a gun:

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x = 11, y = 5, rule = B2ce3aeikq4aeikw5c_S1367
7bo$bo5bo$obo6b2o$bo5bo$7bo!

But where is the xp132?

The second rule is explosive:

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x = 3, y = 9, rule = B2ce3aeikq4aeikw5ce8/S134ce67
b2o$b2o$b2o$o2$o$b2o$b2o$b2o!

[shouldsee]

It's weird that you searched 130000 soups but got no xp132_0ggy2co0g384z3rdh.
Check census

[Apple Bottom]

variant with interesting reactions:
B2ce3aeikq4aeikw5ce8/S134ce67
Intermediate searching stress

This was working just fine until about ~9800 soups into the first haul, at which point it ran into this:

MuTKdFP.png (19.3 KiB) Viewed 284 times

Pretty, if a bit slow to evolve, and rather memory-intensive. But Golly's not crashed yet, so I'll leave it running for now until it either finishes the haul or does indeed crash.

[shouldsee]

variant with interesting reactions:
B2ce3aeikq4aeikw5ce8/S134ce67
Intermediate searching stress

This was working just fine until about ~9800 soups into the first haul, at which point it ran into this:

Pretty, if a bit slow to evolve, and rather memory-intensive. But Golly's not crashed yet, so I'll leave it running for now until it either finishes the haul or does indeed crash.

Actually, I don't think apgsearch collects information about reactions anyway... So it is not necessary to search an explosive rule like that....
I would say the rule is on the edge of explosion, though it's not obvious to a human tester. But the spaceship interactions are indeed interesting.

[drc]

B3-enqr/S23-a4-w. Thread incoming.

[Apple Bottom]

Actually, I don't think apgsearch collects information about reactions anyway... So it is not necessary to search an explosive rule like that....
I would say the rule is on the edge of explosion, though it's not obvious to a human tester. But the spaceship interactions are indeed interesting.

No, it doesn't collect any real information; this would've just been a zz_* pattern. But it died anyway, during the "Expunge Objects" phase. 56 GiB seems to be my (virtual) memory limit these days.

B3-enqr/S23-a4-w. Thread incoming.

This is a perfect example of why I asked for people to please test the viability of soup-searching a rule before making requests.

[drc]

B3-enqr/S23-a4-w. Thread incoming.

This is a perfect example of why I asked for people to please test the viability of soup-searching a rule before making requests.

I did, 5919 soups were tested, although I had to go before it could finish. Maybe it's the wrong rule, though. Will check later

[Apple Bottom]

I did, 5919 soups were tested, although I had to go before it could finish. Maybe it's the wrong rule, though. Will check later

Oh, the rule isn't explosive or anything like that. It just runs afoul of Catagolue's various haul size limits -- it's too productive, with too many distinct objects, to submit anything for it.