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Re: apgsearch - haul requests

Postby Apple Bottom » April 15th, 2017, 8:05 am

83bismuth38 wrote:Could you search this? I just want to know the 'rank' each thing has. also, if you can, look for guns.


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Re: apgsearch - haul requests

Postby 83bismuth38 » April 15th, 2017, 7:19 pm

eheheh.. :oops: i meant could you seach B34-ai/S24-air5-a and B34-air/S234-air?
x = 8, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
3b2o$3b2o$2b3o$4bobo$2obobobo$3bo2bo$2bobo2bo$2bo4bo$2bo4bo$2bo!

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Re: apgsearch - haul requests

Postby drc » April 15th, 2017, 8:41 pm

B36i/S2-i35i is interesting yet extremely slow due to very natural 14c/182d pond puffers. I'd like someone to help with hauls
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Re: apgsearch - haul requests

Postby Rhombic » April 26th, 2017, 9:45 am

B2i3-c4q/S2-i3-c4cw

has many interesting spaceships and common high-period oscillators
medium to slowish speed in apgsearch, but really worth it
I'm searching it at the moment

the xq78 has a crazily beautiful synthesis from the common xp98
x = 14, y = 15, rule = B2i3-c4q/S2-i3-c4cw
11bo$11bobo$11b2o2$6bo2bo$6bo2b2o$10bo$2bo3bo3b2o$bobo2bobobo$2o2bo5b
2o$bobo2bobobo$2bo3bo3b2o$10bo$6bo2b2o$6bo2bo!
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Re: apgsearch - haul requests

Postby 83bismuth38 » April 26th, 2017, 3:40 pm

Could you please search B34-air/S234-air?
x = 8, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
3b2o$3b2o$2b3o$4bobo$2obobobo$3bo2bo$2bobo2bo$2bo4bo$2bo4bo$2bo!

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Re: apgsearch - haul requests

Postby Rhombic » April 26th, 2017, 6:09 pm

Rhombic wrote:B2i3-c4q/S2-i3-c4cw

has many interesting spaceships and common high-period oscillators
medium to slowish speed in apgsearch, but really worth it
I'm searching it at the moment

the xq78 has a crazily beautiful synthesis from the common xp98
x = 14, y = 15, rule = B2i3-c4q/S2-i3-c4cw
11bo$11bobo$11b2o2$6bo2bo$6bo2b2o$10bo$2bo3bo3b2o$bobo2bobobo$2o2bo5b
2o$bobo2bobobo$2bo3bo3b2o$10bo$6bo2b2o$6bo2bo!


yl78 that has been found naturally
x = 37, y = 32, rule = B2i3-c4q/S2-i3-c4cw
7$15b2o2bo$15b3o2bo$15b2o3b2o$16bo2b2o2$28b2o$27bo$28b2ob2o$32bo$25b3o
2bob2o$28bo3b2o$25b5o3bo$28b2o2bo!
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Re: apgsearch - haul requests

Postby drc » April 27th, 2017, 12:44 am

I think B36i/S2-i35i is worth soup-searching. It would be easier to find interesting things if people besides me search. Although it's astronomically slower than most rules.
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Re: apgsearch - haul requests

Postby _zM » April 29th, 2017, 3:04 pm

B2-a3a/S1c23 has a huge variety of still lifes as well as oscillators. I only searched ~10000 sups, but got oscillators in all periods up to 20 except 13 and 19, and still lifes of all sizes between 6 and 100, among others. No spaceships so far.

p17 (simplified from haul version):
x = 8, y = 8, rule = B2-a3a/S1c23
b2o$bob4o$bo4bo$ob3obo$4bobo$4bo2bo$5b3o$4bo!
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Re: apgsearch - haul requests

Postby Saka » May 5th, 2017, 3:14 am

B2ein3-ckry4ceiw5iy6n/S2ae3-a4ctyz5a please!
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b2ob2obo5b2o$11b4obo$2bob3o2bo2b3o$bo3b2o4b2o$o2bo2bob2o3b4o$bob2obo5b
o2b2o$2b2o4bobo2b3o$bo3b5ob2obobo$2bo5bob2o$4bob2o2bobobo!

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Re: apgsearch - haul requests

Postby drc » May 7th, 2017, 2:43 am

B3-e/S23 is fascinating:
x = 6, y = 14, rule = B3-e/S23
2o$b2o$bo10$5bo$4b2o!
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Re: apgsearch - haul requests

Postby _zM » May 7th, 2017, 8:25 am

Already searched quite a bit - features pi puffers that make searching difficult, but it does have interesting patterns, like a tiny c/14 diagonal.
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B3-e7/S23-c

Postby Rhombic » May 7th, 2017, 11:57 am

_zM wrote:Already searched quite a bit - features pi puffers that make searching difficult, but it does have interesting patterns, like a tiny c/14 diagonal.


Synths in B3-e7/S23-c, a related rule:
x = 14, y = 16, rule = B3-e7/S23-c
8bo$9b2o$8b2o3$8b2o$8bobo$9b2o$11b2o$4b2o5bobo$4bobo5b2o$5b2o$7b2o$7bo
bo$8b2o$3o!

x = 6, y = 7, rule = B3-e7/S23-c
bo$2bo$3o3$b2ob2o$bobobo!


This rule is very interesting too and lacks the pi-puffers so I suggest apgsearching B3-e7/S23-c

Funny 3G-->2G:
x = 10, y = 8, rule = B3-e7/S23-c
bo5bo$2bo3bo$3o3b3o3$8bo$7b2o$7bobo!


EDIT: real gems coming up: the parent rule small C1-symmetric xq11 and a D2 symmetric blinker puffer!!
https://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xq11_37qiq3/b3-e7s23-c
x = 14, y = 47, rule = B3-e7/S23-c
11b3o10$3b3o$2b3obo$bo5bo$b4ob2o$7bo$b2o3b2o$2o$3bo2bo$2b3o$4bo8$4bo$
2b3o$3bo2bo$2o$b2o3b2o$7bo$b4ob2o$bo5bo$2b3obo$3b3o10$11b3o!
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Re: apgsearch - haul requests

Postby 83bismuth38 » May 8th, 2017, 3:48 pm

EDIT: sorry. I already tried downloading apgsearch but couldn't find the right version to match with golly. I also have no idea what ntzfind is. where do i download it?
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x = 8, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
3b2o$3b2o$2b3o$4bobo$2obobobo$3bo2bo$2bobo2bo$2bo4bo$2bo4bo$2bo!

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Re: apgsearch - haul requests

Postby drc » May 8th, 2017, 4:44 pm

83bismuth38 wrote:SHEESH! COULD YOU PLEASE SEARCH B34-air/S234-air?!

That type of tone isn't going to get you anywhere. Maybe you could do some manual searching and look for more interesting patterns. I suggest getting your own version of apgsearch and ntzfind.
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Re: apgsearch - haul requests

Postby Saka » May 9th, 2017, 2:52 am

83bismuth38 wrote:EDIT: sorry. I already tried downloading apgsearch but couldn't find the right version to match with golly. I also have no idea what ntzfind is. where do i download it?

Seems like you've never travelled to Scripts
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b2ob2obo5b2o$11b4obo$2bob3o2bo2b3o$bo3b2o4b2o$o2bo2bob2o3b4o$bob2obo5b
o2b2o$2b2o4bobo2b3o$bo3b5ob2obobo$2bo5bob2o$4bob2o2bobobo!

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Re: apgsearch - haul requests

Postby Apple Bottom » May 9th, 2017, 6:19 am

83bismuth38 wrote:EDIT: sorry. I already tried downloading apgsearch but couldn't find the right version to match with golly. I also have no idea what ntzfind is. where do i download it?


For apgsearch, you probably want Aidan's apgsearch-2016-1-21-v0.54+0.21i.py. You'll also need wildmyron's isotropic-rule.py, which generates the necessary rule files -- this was necessary because past Golly didn't natively support non-totalistic rules, and today it's still necessary because apgsearch hasn't been adapted yet to use Golly's native support instead of custom rules.

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Re: apgsearch - haul requests

Postby Saka » May 11th, 2017, 2:22 am

B2ikn34w/S0 please! I think it's definitely worth exploring! I'll make a thread.
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b2ob2obo5b2o$11b4obo$2bob3o2bo2b3o$bo3b2o4b2o$o2bo2bob2o3b4o$bob2obo5b
o2b2o$2b2o4bobo2b3o$bo3b5ob2obobo$2bo5bob2o$4bob2o2bobobo!

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Re: apgsearch - haul requests

Postby drc » May 20th, 2017, 1:16 pm

B2e3-r5i8/S23-a4kz7c symm: C1 It has everything featured here and more:
x = 54, y = 56, rule = B2e3-r5i8/S23-a4kz7c
2bo47bo$2bo47b3o$3o48bo48$bo9bo38bo2bo$obo7bobo37bo2bo$bo9bo39b3o3$14b
3o!
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Re: apgsearch - haul requests

Postby Rhombic » May 21st, 2017, 10:35 am

Complex rule is showing potential:
x = 37, y = 16, rule = B2-a3-iq4ejknry7/S1e2-ai3ciry4krz
5b2o$3b6o$4b3o$4bobo2$7bo5bo$5b2o7bo$12b3o$4bo9bo$4bo2b2o4bo$7bo$7bo
28bo$5b2o27bo$2o2bo29bo$2bo31bo$36bo!

x = 10, y = 15, rule = B2-a3-iq4ejknry7/S1e2-ai3ciry4krz
7b2o2$7bobo$7bobo$8bo3$obo3$8bo$7bobo$7bobo2$7b2o!
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Re: apgsearch - haul requests

Postby Saka » May 28th, 2017, 12:18 am

B2n3-y4iqw6i_S23-qy might have cool stuff
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b2ob2obo5b2o$11b4obo$2bob3o2bo2b3o$bo3b2o4b2o$o2bo2bob2o3b4o$bob2obo5b
o2b2o$2b2o4bobo2b3o$bo3b5ob2obobo$2bo5bob2o$4bob2o2bobobo!

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Re: apgsearch - haul requests

Postby Saka » June 2nd, 2017, 11:44 pm

and B3678/S3-i4-r5i6ac78 pls
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Re: apgsearch - haul requests

Postby muzik » June 16th, 2017, 10:26 am

B/S2ckn and B3e/S2ce3cn both search extremely quickly (the latter seems faster), and allow only a set of homologous series to exist - the former allows a family consisting of the tub, beehive, boat, mango and other patterns that would be degenerate in regular Life, and the latter only allows tubarges, boats and ships.

Let's see who can get the longest versions to show up
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Re: apgsearch - haul requests

Postby muzik » June 18th, 2017, 8:40 am

How many objects can you get to show up at all in b3s/C1?
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Re: apgsearch - haul requests

Postby Ethanagor » June 18th, 2017, 9:00 am

muzik wrote:How many objects can you get to show up at all in b3s/C1?

That's not a valid rule, at least according to Golly (or any syntax I've seen)
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Re: apgsearch - haul requests

Postby muzik » June 18th, 2017, 9:03 am

Ethanagor wrote:
muzik wrote:How many objects can you get to show up at all in b3s/C1?

That's not a valid rule, at least according to Golly (or any syntax I've seen)

...then how have people managed to search it and get objects to show up?
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