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Re: apgsearch - haul requests

Postby Bullet51 » June 18th, 2017, 9:07 am

Ethanagor wrote:That's not a valid rule, at least according to Golly (or any syntax I've seen)

muzik wrote:...then how have people managed to search it and get objects to show up?

Just search B3/S1-ce.
Example soup:
x = 31, y = 31, rule = B3/S1-ce
bo4b2o2bo2bobobo2bo2b2o4bo$o3bob5o2b5o2b5obo3bo$6b2o6b3o6b2o$3bob2o4b
2o5b2o4b2obo$bo3bo2bo2bobobobobo2bo2bo3bo$3b2ob2obo4bobo4bob2ob2o$4ob
3o3bob2ob2obo3b3ob4o$3o2b2obo4b2ob2o4bob2o2b3o$bo2bo2bo3b4ob4o3bo2bo2b
o$bo3bo4b2obo3bob2o4bo3bo$2o7b2obo2bo2bob2o7b2o$3b2obob2o3bo3bo3b2obob
2o$3bo4bobo2bobobo2bobo4bo$2o2bob4ob2ob3ob2ob4obo2b2o$b2o2b4o4bobobo4b
4o2b2o$3obo5bob3ob3obo5bob3o$b2o2b4o4bobobo4b4o2b2o$2o2bob4ob2ob3ob2ob
4obo2b2o$3bo4bobo2bobobo2bobo4bo$3b2obob2o3bo3bo3b2obob2o$2o7b2obo2bo
2bob2o7b2o$bo3bo4b2obo3bob2o4bo3bo$bo2bo2bo3b4ob4o3bo2bo2bo$3o2b2obo4b
2ob2o4bob2o2b3o$4ob3o3bob2ob2obo3b3ob4o$3b2ob2obo4bobo4bob2ob2o$bo3bo
2bo2bobobobobo2bo2bo3bo$3bob2o4b2o5b2o4b2obo$6b2o6b3o6b2o$o3bob5o2b5o
2b5obo3bo$bo4b2o2bo2bobobo2bo2b2o4bo!
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Re: apgsearch - haul requests

Postby Ethanagor » June 18th, 2017, 9:08 am

muzik wrote:
Ethanagor wrote:
muzik wrote:How many objects can you get to show up at all in b3s/C1?

That's not a valid rule, at least according to Golly (or any syntax I've seen)

...then how have people managed to search it and get objects to show up?

Well, maybe I'm doing something wrong. Golly can't run that rule in any algorithm.

EDIT:
Bullet51 wrote:Just search B3/S1-ce.

Oh, OK.
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Re: apgsearch - haul requests

Postby muzik » June 18th, 2017, 9:12 am

Even then, both golly and apgmera work perfectly:

x = 8, y = 8, rule = B3/S
3bo$3bobo$bo$6b2o$2o$6bo$2bobo$4bo!
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Re: apgsearch - haul requests

Postby drc » June 18th, 2017, 9:30 am

I think Ethan is trying to enter b3s/C1 instead of B3/S
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Re: apgsearch - haul requests

Postby Ethanagor » June 18th, 2017, 9:32 am

drc wrote:I think Ethan is trying to enter b3s/C1 instead of B3/S


Yea, I also tried B3/SC1 but that didn't work. I'm a noob...
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Re: apgsearch - haul requests

Postby Apple Bottom » June 20th, 2017, 7:56 am

Ethanagor wrote:
muzik wrote:How many objects can you get to show up at all in b3s/C1?

That's not a valid rule, at least according to Golly (or any syntax I've seen)


It's a rule/symmetry combination: rule B3/S, with C1-symmetrical (i.e. a priori asymmetrical) soups.
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Re: apgsearch - haul requests

Postby Saka » June 23rd, 2017, 3:38 am

Can someone search B2en3ain5iy/S2-a3-ar4 please? Quite fast, has the following novelties:
p20 camelship
x = 16, y = 16, rule = B2en3ain5iy/S2-a3-ar4
ooobbbooooooobob$
bbbbboobbbobbbbb$
bobooobbobobooob$
bbobooobobboobbo$
obbboobobobbbbob$
oobbobboooboobbo$
bbbooobbboboobbo$
boobooboobooobbb$
boobooobboobbboo$
boobbboooobbobob$
booobooboboobbob$
obooobbooobboooo$
ooboooobobbbobbb$
oooobooooooooooo$
bbbbbooboobobbbb$
booboobbobbobobo!

p48 oscillator
x = 16, y = 16, rule = B2en3ain5iy/S2-a3-ar4
ooobobbbbbbobooo$
ooooobobooobbbob$
oobooobooobboboo$
boobbooboobbbbob$
boooboobbooboboo$
obbbobboobbbbboo$
ooobbooooobbbbbb$
obbbobbbobboobbo$
obbboobbbboboobo$
bobbbobbboooooob$
bbbobbooooboobbo$
oobbobbbbbbbbooo$
bboobboobooooboo$
obbbbbbbbbbobbob$
bbooobobbbbbbbbb$
obbobobooooooobo!

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x = 16, y = 16, rule = B2en3ain5iy/S2-a3-ar4
bbbobbbbbobbbooo$
ooobobbobobbboob$
bbobobobbboooobb$
obobbbbobbobbooo$
obbbboobboobobbb$
bbobbobboboboobb$
bobboooooobbobbb$
oooooobobobbbooo$
bbbbboooobobobob$
bbbbbbbbbobboobo$
obbobbobbbbobobo$
bbbobbobbbobooob$
oobboobboboooobo$
oobobbobobbobobo$
obbobobbboboobob$
obbbbboboobobobb!
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x = 17, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
b2ob2obo5b2o$11b4obo$2bob3o2bo2b3o$bo3b2o4b2o$o2bo2bob2o3b4o$bob2obo5b
o2b2o$2b2o4bobo2b3o$bo3b5ob2obobo$2bo5bob2o$4bob2o2bobobo!

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Re: apgsearch - haul requests

Postby 83bismuth38 » June 23rd, 2017, 12:49 pm

Apple Bottom wrote:
83bismuth38 wrote:EDIT: sorry. I already tried downloading apgsearch but couldn't find the right version to match with golly. I also have no idea what ntzfind is. where do i download it?


For apgsearch, you probably want Aidan's apgsearch-2016-1-21-v0.54+0.21i.py. You'll also need wildmyron's isotropic-rule.py, which generates the necessary rule files -- this was necessary because past Golly didn't natively support non-totalistic rules, and today it's still necessary because apgsearch hasn't been adapted yet to use Golly's native support instead of custom rules.

For more, see the wiki.

it didn't work.
edit: also, this seems unnecessarily more complicated than one of you just searching the rule.
x = 8, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
3b2o$3b2o$2b3o$4bobo$2obobobo$3bo2bo$2bobo2bo$2bo4bo$2bo4bo$2bo!

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Re: apgsearch - haul requests

Postby drc » June 23rd, 2017, 1:34 pm

83bismuth38 wrote:edit: also, this seems unnecessarily more complicated than one of you just searching the rule.

That kind of came off as rude, and I frankly, along with most of the Life community (can't speak for them though), just don't find that rule that interesting.

In order to get any traction, you must demonstrate common intricacies.
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Re: apgsearch - haul requests

Postby Apple Bottom » June 23rd, 2017, 3:55 pm

83bismuth38 wrote:it didn't work.


What exactly didn't work? Where are you getting stuck?

edit: also, this seems unnecessarily more complicated than one of you just searching the rule.


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Re: apgsearch - haul requests

Postby muzik » July 4th, 2017, 12:31 pm

What's the slowest ship we can get to show up in B2c3ae4ai56c/S2-kn3-enq4?
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Re: apgsearch - haul requests

Postby Saka » July 8th, 2017, 8:54 am

b2-akn3ai/s23-a4i please
Has a 8,6c/24 knightship, a p20, and other stuff. Only 1 odd period oscillator has showed up so that's something.
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x = 17, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
b2ob2obo5b2o$11b4obo$2bob3o2bo2b3o$bo3b2o4b2o$o2bo2bob2o3b4o$bob2obo5b
o2b2o$2b2o4bobo2b3o$bo3b5ob2obobo$2bo5bob2o$4bob2o2bobobo!

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Re: apgsearch - haul requests

Postby Bullet51 » July 8th, 2017, 12:39 pm

Saka wrote:b2-akn3ai/s23-a4i please
Has a 8,6c/24 knightship, a p20, and other stuff. Only 1 odd period oscillator has showed up so that's something.

There is surely something:
x = 9, y = 5, rule = B2-akn3ai_S23-a4i
3b3o$bo5bo$ob5obo$bo5bo$3b3o!

x = 9, y = 10, rule = B2-akn3ai_S23-a4i
3b3o$3bobo$2obobob2o$o2bobo2bo$bobobobo$bobobobo$o2bobo2bo$2obobob2o$
3bobo$3b3o!

x = 10, y = 10, rule = B2-akn3ai_S23-a4i
2b2o2b2o$o2bo3bo$2o2bobo$4bo2b2o$3bobo2b2o$3bobo2b2o$4bo2b2o$2o2bobo$o
2bo3bo$2b2o2b2o!
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Re: apgsearch - haul requests

Postby Apple Bottom » July 8th, 2017, 3:32 pm

Saka wrote:b2-akn3ai/s23-a4i please
Has a 8,6c/24 knightship, a p20, and other stuff. Only 1 odd period oscillator has showed up so that's something.


Also has a a diagonal period-100 dual blinker puffer:

x = 16, y = 16, rule = B2-akn3ai/S23-a4i
boboobbbboobobbb$
bobbbbbbbbboobbo$
ooobbbooobbbboob$
oobooobobbbboobb$
boobbbooboboboob$
bobbbobobboooobb$
obboboobbobobooo$
bbbbbobooboobbob$
obobbooboooooobo$
obobobooobbbboob$
boooboobbobbboob$
bobbobbbbboooobb$
obbbbobbboboobbb$
bbbobooooobboooo$
oooobbobboobbbob$
boobooobooobbbob!


(Maybe this should get its own thread though, if there's going to be many more results.)
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Re: apgsearch - haul requests

Postby drc » July 11th, 2017, 7:10 pm

I have free cpu cycles to give up, and I really want a rule to search.
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Re: apgsearch - haul requests

Postby A for awesome » July 11th, 2017, 9:28 pm

drc wrote:I have free cpu cycles to give up, and I really want a rule to search.

tlife, please. My computer can't handle it anymore.
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V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη)
K=(Λu²)/2
Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt)

$$x_1=\eta x$$
$$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$
$$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$
$$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$

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Re: apgsearch - haul requests

Postby muzik » July 13th, 2017, 3:57 am

drc wrote:I have free cpu cycles to give up, and I really want a rule to search.

Regular Life, since that tends to be the only one people are really interested in in the end
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Re: apgsearch - haul requests

Postby toroidalet » July 13th, 2017, 3:57 pm

muzik wrote:
drc wrote:I have free cpu cycles to give up, and I really want a rule to search.

Regular Life, since that tends to be the only one people are really interested in in the end

B3/S23 seems to me to be overrated. I would recommend something more like B34e5y7e/S23, B2i3-ck/S02-i3-ck or B3/S237e.
x = 5, y = 5, rule = B34e5y7e/S23
3o$o2bo$ob2o2$3b2o!

x = 7, y = 10, rule = B2i3-ck/S02-i3-ck
3bo$2bobo$bo3bo2$bobobo$2o3b2o3$b2o$b2o!

x = 3, y = 4, rule = B3/S237e
bo$obo$obo$obo!

B37/S2-i34qy is a good choice too as it almost certainly will have the fame of the first non-totalistic rule with a caterpillar spaceship.
x = 11, y = 5, rule = B2ck3-ij5n78/S01e2ei3-k5ai
8b2o$2o3b2o$bo4bo3bo$2bo2b2o$o7bo!

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Re: apgsearch - haul requests

Postby muzik » July 13th, 2017, 4:09 pm

But who doesn't want sexy, shiny badges? You can only get most badges from Life.


Although, the idea (if highly unlikely) of a caterpillar in another rule (which, based on the simplicity of the reaction, may have a chance of occurring naturally, although possibly as a puffer) is intriguing...
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Re: apgsearch - haul requests

Postby drc » July 13th, 2017, 4:50 pm

Actually, the reason I only uploaded two hauls of B37/S2-i34qy, is because some soups are actually explosive, but barely. It's rare, though, and caught me by surprise. I can still try to upload some more hauls, I'll just have to monitor them.
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Re: apgsearch - haul requests

Postby drc » July 14th, 2017, 6:13 am

Okay I have a really interesting rule, B3-r/S2-ckn3-cknqy4-acknqwy5-ejkq6c7-c, but I'm half afraid it'll blow up my PC.
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Re: apgsearch - haul requests

Postby Saka » July 14th, 2017, 9:00 am

B2e3ai4r5i7e/S23-a4artz is nice. See Soup Search Results in Other CA (SSROCA)
Has various smoky xq16s, tablepulling xq8s, oscs, and smoky yls.
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x = 17, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
b2ob2obo5b2o$11b4obo$2bob3o2bo2b3o$bo3b2o4b2o$o2bo2bob2o3b4o$bob2obo5b
o2b2o$2b2o4bobo2b3o$bo3b5ob2obobo$2bo5bob2o$4bob2o2bobobo!

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Re: apgsearch - haul requests

Postby Apple Bottom » July 14th, 2017, 12:50 pm

Saka wrote:B2e3ai4r5i7e/S23-a4artz is nice. See Soup Search Results in Other CA (SSROCA)
Has various smoky xq16s, tablepulling xq8s, oscs, and smoky yls.


Nice. And much faster to search than B3-r/S2-ckn3-cknqy4-acknqwy5-ejkq6c7-c and (especially) B34e5y7e/S23. ;) I'll let it run for a while.
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Re: apgsearch - haul requests

Postby toroidalet » July 29th, 2017, 6:07 pm

Can someone search B2c3ajk46-ak/S1c237e8, B3-n4w/S23-a4-i, B2n3-n4ejw/S23-a4-ikry, or B3-n4-an/S2-i34-at?
x = 13, y = 5, rule = B2c3ajk46-ak/S1c237e8
2b2o4bo$bo7bo$obo4bo3bo$8b2o2bo$10bobo!

x = 14, y = 23, rule = B3-n4w/S23-a4-i
2b4o$2bo2bo$o7$10b3o$12bo$10bo2bo$12bo$10b3o7$o$2bo2bo$2b4o!

x = 14, y = 4, rule = B2n3-n4ejw/S23-a4-ikry
2bo7b3o$b2o6bo3bo$2obo5bo3bo$2bo7bobo!

x = 15, y = 13, rule = B3-n4-an/S2-i34-at
bo7b3o$3o6bobo2$8b5o$8bobobo4$12bo$2bo8b3o$b3o6bo3bo$2bo8b3o$12bo!

Also try B2ck3ajy4nrt5ei6c7e/S1c2-n3enr4aet5cey67.
x = 11, y = 10, rule = B2ck3ajy4nrt5ei6c7e8/S1c2-n3enr4aet5cey67
o7bo$8o$o7bo5$6bob2o$6b2o2bo$6bob2o!
x = 11, y = 5, rule = B2ck3-ij5n78/S01e2ei3-k5ai
8b2o$2o3b2o$bo4bo3bo$2bo2b2o$o7bo!

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Re: apgsearch - haul requests

Postby Apple Bottom » July 30th, 2017, 4:04 pm

toroidalet wrote:B3-n4-an/S2-i34-at


I'm not convinced that one isn't explosive. (The others are fine so far, just extremely slow and memory-hungry.)
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