## apgsearch - haul requests

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### Re: apgsearch - haul requests

Ethanagor wrote:That's not a valid rule, at least according to Golly (or any syntax I've seen)

muzik wrote:...then how have people managed to search it and get objects to show up?

Just search B3/S1-ce.
Example soup:
x = 31, y = 31, rule = B3/S1-cebo4b2o2bo2bobobo2bo2b2o4bo$o3bob5o2b5o2b5obo3bo$6b2o6b3o6b2o$3bob2o4b2o5b2o4b2obo$bo3bo2bo2bobobobobo2bo2bo3bo$3b2ob2obo4bobo4bob2ob2o$4ob3o3bob2ob2obo3b3ob4o$3o2b2obo4b2ob2o4bob2o2b3o$bo2bo2bo3b4ob4o3bo2bo2bo$bo3bo4b2obo3bob2o4bo3bo$2o7b2obo2bo2bob2o7b2o$3b2obob2o3bo3bo3b2obob2o$3bo4bobo2bobobo2bobo4bo$2o2bob4ob2ob3ob2ob4obo2b2o$b2o2b4o4bobobo4b4o2b2o$3obo5bob3ob3obo5bob3o$b2o2b4o4bobobo4b4o2b2o$2o2bob4ob2ob3ob2ob4obo2b2o$3bo4bobo2bobobo2bobo4bo$3b2obob2o3bo3bo3b2obob2o$2o7b2obo2bo2bob2o7b2o$bo3bo4b2obo3bob2o4bo3bo$bo2bo2bo3b4ob4o3bo2bo2bo$3o2b2obo4b2ob2o4bob2o2b3o$4ob3o3bob2ob2obo3b3ob4o$3b2ob2obo4bobo4bob2ob2o$bo3bo2bo2bobobobobo2bo2bo3bo$3bob2o4b2o5b2o4b2obo$6b2o6b3o6b2o$o3bob5o2b5o2b5obo3bo$bo4b2o2bo2bobobo2bo2b2o4bo!
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### Re: apgsearch - haul requests

muzik wrote:
Ethanagor wrote:
muzik wrote:How many objects can you get to show up at all in b3s/C1?

That's not a valid rule, at least according to Golly (or any syntax I've seen)

...then how have people managed to search it and get objects to show up?

Well, maybe I'm doing something wrong. Golly can't run that rule in any algorithm.

EDIT:
Bullet51 wrote:Just search B3/S1-ce.

Oh, OK.
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### Re: apgsearch - haul requests

Even then, both golly and apgmera work perfectly:

x = 8, y = 8, rule = B3/S3bo$3bobo$bo$6b2o$2o$6bo$2bobo$4bo! Bored of using the Moore neighbourhood for everything? Introducing the Range-2 von Neumann isotropic non-totalistic rulespace! muzik Posts: 3301 Joined: January 28th, 2016, 2:47 pm Location: Scotland ### Re: apgsearch - haul requests I think Ethan is trying to enter b3s/C1 instead of B3/S This post was brought to you by the letter D, for dishes that Andrew J. Wade won't do. (Also Daniel, which happens to be me.) Current rule interest: B2ce3-ir4a5y/S2-c3-y drc Posts: 1664 Joined: December 3rd, 2015, 4:11 pm Location: creating useless things in OCA ### Re: apgsearch - haul requests drc wrote:I think Ethan is trying to enter b3s/C1 instead of B3/S Yea, I also tried B3/SC1 but that didn't work. I'm a noob... "It's not easy having a good time. Even smiling makes my face ache." - Frank N. Furter Ethanagor Posts: 80 Joined: March 15th, 2017, 7:34 pm Location: the Milky Way galaxy ### Re: apgsearch - haul requests Ethanagor wrote: muzik wrote:How many objects can you get to show up at all in b3s/C1? That's not a valid rule, at least according to Golly (or any syntax I've seen) It's a rule/symmetry combination: rule B3/S, with C1-symmetrical (i.e. a priori asymmetrical) soups. If you speak, your speech must be better than your silence would have been. — Arabian proverb Catagolue: Apple Bottom • Life Wiki: Apple Bottom • Twitter: @_AppleBottom_ Proud member of the Pattern Raiders! Apple Bottom Posts: 1024 Joined: July 27th, 2015, 2:06 pm ### Re: apgsearch - haul requests Can someone search B2en3ain5iy/S2-a3-ar4 please? Quite fast, has the following novelties: p20 camelship x = 16, y = 16, rule = B2en3ain5iy/S2-a3-ar4ooobbbooooooobob$bbbbboobbbobbbbb$bobooobbobobooob$bbobooobobboobbo$obbboobobobbbbob$oobbobboooboobbo$bbbooobbboboobbo$boobooboobooobbb$boobooobboobbboo$boobbboooobbobob$booobooboboobbob$obooobbooobboooo$ooboooobobbbobbb$oooobooooooooooo$bbbbbooboobobbbb$booboobbobbobobo!

p48 oscillator
x = 16, y = 16, rule = B2en3ain5iy/S2-a3-ar4ooobobbbbbbobooo$ooooobobooobbbob$oobooobooobboboo$boobbooboobbbbob$boooboobbooboboo$obbbobboobbbbboo$ooobbooooobbbbbb$obbbobbbobboobbo$obbboobbbboboobo$bobbbobbboooooob$bbbobbooooboobbo$oobbobbbbbbbbooo$bboobboobooooboo$obbbbbbbbbbobbob$bbooobobbbbbbbbb$obbobobooooooobo! Big yl144 x = 16, y = 16, rule = B2en3ain5iy/S2-a3-ar4bbbobbbbbobbbooo$ooobobbobobbboob$bbobobobbboooobb$obobbbbobbobbooo$obbbboobboobobbb$bbobbobboboboobb$bobboooooobbobbb$oooooobobobbbooo$bbbbboooobobobob$bbbbbbbbbobboobo$obbobbobbbbobobo$bbbobbobbbobooob$oobboobboboooobo$oobobbobobbobobo$obbobobbboboobob$obbbbboboobobobb!
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x = 17, y = 10, rule = B3/S23b2ob2obo5b2o$11b4obo$2bob3o2bo2b3o$bo3b2o4b2o$o2bo2bob2o3b4o$bob2obo5bo2b2o$2b2o4bobo2b3o$bo3b5ob2obobo$2bo5bob2o$4bob2o2bobobo! (Check gen 2) Saka Posts: 2923 Joined: June 19th, 2015, 8:50 pm Location: In the kingdom of Sultan Hamengkubuwono X ### Re: apgsearch - haul requests Apple Bottom wrote: 83bismuth38 wrote:EDIT: sorry. I already tried downloading apgsearch but couldn't find the right version to match with golly. I also have no idea what ntzfind is. where do i download it? For apgsearch, you probably want Aidan's apgsearch-2016-1-21-v0.54+0.21i.py. You'll also need wildmyron's isotropic-rule.py, which generates the necessary rule files -- this was necessary because past Golly didn't natively support non-totalistic rules, and today it's still necessary because apgsearch hasn't been adapted yet to use Golly's native support instead of custom rules. For more, see the wiki. it didn't work. edit: also, this seems unnecessarily more complicated than one of you just searching the rule. x = 8, y = 10, rule = B3/S233b2o$3b2o$2b3o$4bobo$2obobobo$3bo2bo$2bobo2bo$2bo4bo$2bo4bo$2bo!

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### Re: apgsearch - haul requests

83bismuth38 wrote:edit: also, this seems unnecessarily more complicated than one of you just searching the rule.

That kind of came off as rude, and I frankly, along with most of the Life community (can't speak for them though), just don't find that rule that interesting.

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### Re: apgsearch - haul requests

83bismuth38 wrote:it didn't work.

What exactly didn't work? Where are you getting stuck?

edit: also, this seems unnecessarily more complicated than one of you just searching the rule.

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### Re: apgsearch - haul requests

What's the slowest ship we can get to show up in B2c3ae4ai56c/S2-kn3-enq4?
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### Re: apgsearch - haul requests

Has a 8,6c/24 knightship, a p20, and other stuff. Only 1 odd period oscillator has showed up so that's something.
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x = 10, y = 10, rule = B2-akn3ai_S23-a4i2b2o2b2o$o2bo3bo$2o2bobo$4bo2b2o$3bobo2b2o$3bobo2b2o$4bo2b2o$2o2bobo$o2bo3bo$2b2o2b2o! Still drifting. Bullet51 Posts: 523 Joined: July 21st, 2014, 4:35 am ### Re: apgsearch - haul requests Saka wrote:b2-akn3ai/s23-a4i please Has a 8,6c/24 knightship, a p20, and other stuff. Only 1 odd period oscillator has showed up so that's something. Also has a a diagonal period-100 dual blinker puffer: x = 16, y = 16, rule = B2-akn3ai/S23-a4iboboobbbboobobbb$bobbbbbbbbboobbo$ooobbbooobbbboob$oobooobobbbboobb$boobbbooboboboob$bobbbobobboooobb$obboboobbobobooo$bbbbbobooboobbob$obobbooboooooobo$obobobooobbbboob$boooboobbobbboob$bobbobbbbboooobb$obbbbobbboboobbb$bbbobooooobboooo$oooobbobboobbbob$boobooobooobbbob!

(Maybe this should get its own thread though, if there's going to be many more results.)
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### Re: apgsearch - haul requests

I have free cpu cycles to give up, and I really want a rule to search.
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### Re: apgsearch - haul requests

drc wrote:I have free cpu cycles to give up, and I really want a rule to search.

tlife, please. My computer can't handle it anymore.
x₁=ηx
V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη)
K=(Λu²)/2
Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt)

$$x_1=\eta x$$
$$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$
$$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$
$$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$

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### Re: apgsearch - haul requests

drc wrote:I have free cpu cycles to give up, and I really want a rule to search.

Regular Life, since that tends to be the only one people are really interested in in the end
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### Re: apgsearch - haul requests

muzik wrote:
drc wrote:I have free cpu cycles to give up, and I really want a rule to search.

Regular Life, since that tends to be the only one people are really interested in in the end

B3/S23 seems to me to be overrated. I would recommend something more like B34e5y7e/S23, B2i3-ck/S02-i3-ck or B3/S237e.
x = 5, y = 5, rule = B34e5y7e/S233o$o2bo$ob2o2$3b2o! x = 7, y = 10, rule = B2i3-ck/S02-i3-ck3bo$2bobo$bo3bo2$bobobo$2o3b2o3$b2o$b2o! x = 3, y = 4, rule = B3/S237ebo$obo$obo$obo!

B37/S2-i34qy is a good choice too as it almost certainly will have the fame of the first non-totalistic rule with a caterpillar spaceship.
x = 11, y = 5, rule = B2ck3-ij5n78/S01e2ei3-k5ai8b2o$2o3b2o$bo4bo3bo$2bo2b2o$o7bo!

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### Re: apgsearch - haul requests

But who doesn't want sexy, shiny badges? You can only get most badges from Life.

Although, the idea (if highly unlikely) of a caterpillar in another rule (which, based on the simplicity of the reaction, may have a chance of occurring naturally, although possibly as a puffer) is intriguing...
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### Re: apgsearch - haul requests

Actually, the reason I only uploaded two hauls of B37/S2-i34qy, is because some soups are actually explosive, but barely. It's rare, though, and caught me by surprise. I can still try to upload some more hauls, I'll just have to monitor them.
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Okay I have a really interesting rule, B3-r/S2-ckn3-cknqy4-acknqwy5-ejkq6c7-c, but I'm half afraid it'll blow up my PC.
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### Re: apgsearch - haul requests

B2e3ai4r5i7e/S23-a4artz is nice. See Soup Search Results in Other CA (SSROCA)
Has various smoky xq16s, tablepulling xq8s, oscs, and smoky yls.
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x = 17, y = 10, rule = B3/S23b2ob2obo5b2o$11b4obo$2bob3o2bo2b3o$bo3b2o4b2o$o2bo2bob2o3b4o$bob2obo5bo2b2o$2b2o4bobo2b3o$bo3b5ob2obobo$2bo5bob2o$4bob2o2bobobo! (Check gen 2) Saka Posts: 2923 Joined: June 19th, 2015, 8:50 pm Location: In the kingdom of Sultan Hamengkubuwono X ### Re: apgsearch - haul requests Saka wrote:B2e3ai4r5i7e/S23-a4artz is nice. See Soup Search Results in Other CA (SSROCA) Has various smoky xq16s, tablepulling xq8s, oscs, and smoky yls. Nice. And much faster to search than B3-r/S2-ckn3-cknqy4-acknqwy5-ejkq6c7-c and (especially) B34e5y7e/S23. I'll let it run for a while. If you speak, your speech must be better than your silence would have been. — Arabian proverb Catagolue: Apple Bottom • Life Wiki: Apple Bottom • Twitter: @_AppleBottom_ Proud member of the Pattern Raiders! Apple Bottom Posts: 1024 Joined: July 27th, 2015, 2:06 pm ### Re: apgsearch - haul requests Can someone search B2c3ajk46-ak/S1c237e8, B3-n4w/S23-a4-i, B2n3-n4ejw/S23-a4-ikry, or B3-n4-an/S2-i34-at? x = 13, y = 5, rule = B2c3ajk46-ak/S1c237e82b2o4bo$bo7bo$obo4bo3bo$8b2o2bo$10bobo! x = 14, y = 23, rule = B3-n4w/S23-a4-i2b4o$2bo2bo$o7$10b3o$12bo$10bo2bo$12bo$10b3o7$o$2bo2bo$2b4o! x = 14, y = 4, rule = B2n3-n4ejw/S23-a4-ikry2bo7b3o$b2o6bo3bo$2obo5bo3bo$2bo7bobo!

x = 15, y = 13, rule = B3-n4-an/S2-i34-atbo7b3o$3o6bobo2$8b5o$8bobobo4$12bo$2bo8b3o$b3o6bo3bo$2bo8b3o$12bo!

Also try B2ck3ajy4nrt5ei6c7e/S1c2-n3enr4aet5cey67.
x = 11, y = 10, rule = B2ck3ajy4nrt5ei6c7e8/S1c2-n3enr4aet5cey67o7bo$8o$o7bo5$6bob2o$6b2o2bo$6bob2o! x = 11, y = 5, rule = B2ck3-ij5n78/S01e2ei3-k5ai8b2o$2o3b2o$bo4bo3bo$2bo2b2o\$o7bo!

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### Re: apgsearch - haul requests

toroidalet wrote:B3-n4-an/S2-i34-at

I'm not convinced that one isn't explosive. (The others are fine so far, just extremely slow and memory-hungry.)
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