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Re: Request a Rule to be "Tamed"

Postby Rhombic » July 4th, 2017, 11:37 am

This spaceship
x = 4, y = 3, rule = B2-an3jknr4jkrtwz5-eknr/S12a3-aqy
obo$bobo$o2bo!


is currently in its minimal rule (with the fewest transitions). Can someone ADD transitions so that the rule is not explosive?
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Re: Request a Rule to be "Tamed"

Postby toroidalet » July 21st, 2017, 11:58 am

Rhombic wrote:is currently in its minimal rule (with the fewest transitions). Can someone ADD transitions so that the rule is not explosive?

This good?
x = 45, y = 34, rule = B2-an3jknr4jkrtwyz5-kr6n/S12a3-aqy6i
15b6obobob2o5bobob2obo3bo$16bobo5b3ob3obobobo7bo$15bo2bob2o7b2ob2obo5b
o2bo$16b2o2bobo2bo2b2o3b4obob2obo$16b2o2b3obo3bo2b3o3bo3b2o$16bo2b2ob
4o2bo5bob3o3bo$15bob2o2bo3b3ob3o2b2obob5o$17b2o5b2obo3b2o3b2o2b3o$15b
10o2b4o2bo2b4o2bobo$15bob4o3b2ob2obob2o7b4o$obo13bob3obob2o2b3ob2o4b2o
2b3o$bobo11bobobo2bobobob2ob4o3b4o$o2bo14b4obo3b6obo2bobo2bobo$15bobo
3bo2bob3ob4obob3o$15b5o2b2o2b3o5b2o2bo2bob2o$16b2o3bob2ob2o3bobobo5b4o
$15bo2bo2bobob2ob2o2b5o2bo2bo$15bo3b2ob2o2b2o3bo3b2o4b3o$16bo3bob2o3bo
bo2b2ob2ob2ob4o$15b5ob3ob5ob3o2bob2o2b2o$16bo4bobob2o3b2o3b2o2b3o2bo$
15bo4b2ob2obob3ob3ob2obobob2o$20bob6o2bo4bob3o2b3o$15b3o3bo2b2o2b2obob
2ob2o3bobo$17b4obo2b2ob4obo2bo2bobobo$18b3ob2ob2o2b2o3bo3bo2bo2bo$16b
2obob3o3b2o3bo2bo3b4obo$17bo2bobo2bobob2ob6o2bo2bo$19bo4b2ob2obobobo4b
obo$18bob3obob3obob2ob2o2bo2bobo$15b2ob3o2bobo3bob5o3b3obo$17bo3b2obo
4bo3b2obob6o$15b3ob2o2bobo2bobo3bo5b5o$15b3o7bo3bo2bo5bob5o!

WARNING: D2_1-symmetric patterns may explode. Never apgsearch with D2_1 symmetry. The producer is not responsible for any injuries caused by apgsearching D4_+1, D2_+1, D8_1, D4_+2, or custom symmetries with D2 symmetry with this rule. Many similar rules likely stabilize but this one was chosen due to the common 2c/5 ships and 5c/13 domino puffer.
Also,
83bismuth38 wrote:another one, same as always, keep the listed, but this time, i only care about the oscillators, but it is nice if you can keep the ships

here you go, too.
x = 82, y = 48, rule = B2ik36i/S0
35bo2bob3obo2bo6bo4b2o3b4obobobobo2bobo$35b3o4b2o2b3obob2o2bo6bobob3o
4bobo3bo$36b2ob2o2b2obo12bob2ob3obobo4bob2o2bo$36b2obobobo2bo3b2obob2o
4b3obobob2o3bo3b2obo$36b4ob2o2b2o2bobobob6o5bobo2bobo2bo4bo$35bob4ob4o
2b2ob2o2bo2bobob2o6bob2o2bo$36b2ob2ob3o5bobob5o3bo4bo3bob3o2bob2o$36b
4obo5bobo3bo2bo7bobo3b2o3b2ob2o$37b2obo3b2o2bo2bob3o2b2o5b6o3bo3b2o$
36b3ob2o2bob2ob3o2b2o2b4o2bobo2bob3ob2ob2obo$37b2ob2ob2ob3ob2obobo2b4o
4bob3obo6bo$35b3o4b2obobo9b2o4bob3o2b6o4bo$36b2o4bo2b2ob4o2bo6b5ob2o2b
o2b2o3b2o$37bob3o2bobo2b3o2bo2b2o2b2obob3ob2obo2bob3o$39b2o2b3o3bo3b5o
bob3o2b3o3bo2bo2b3o$37bobo3b4obob4o2bobo2b4o3b3o2bobo3bo$35bob2o7b3ob
5obo2bo3b2ob7o2bob2obo$35b2o3b4o2b2obo2b2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob6ob2obobo$35bob
4o2bo2b2obob2ob2obo5bo2bo3b2obo2bobo2bo$35b4o2b2o5b3ob3obob3obo3bo3bo
3b3obobo$36bob2o4b3o2bob2obobobobobo2b4ob2o3b2obobo$36b3ob2ob4o3b5o3bo
bo4b2o2b5o3b3obo$35bobobobo2bo2b6o3bob2o4bob3o4b2o2b2o$35b2o2bo4b2ob7o
2bobob4o3b4ob4o5bo$37bo2b2o2bo3bo4b2o2bobob3o2bobob4ob2o2b2o$35b2o3bo
8b2obo2b2ob2o3bobo2b2obob4ob2o$37b3obob4obob6ob3o2bob2o2b6o2bo$37bo3b
2o2bobo2bo2b4o2b5ob2o3b2o2b3o2b2o$36bo2bobobo3bob2obo2b2o3b2ob4o4bo2b
3o2bo$39b5o2bob3ob5ob5ob3o2b2o3b6obo$35b3o2b3o2b3ob5ob2o3bo2b2ob3obo3b
ob5o$35b2ob3obo4bobo3bo3bo2bobobo2bobobob2ob6o$36bo3b3o2b6ob5obobo2b2o
bobobobo2bobob3o$39bo5bobobob3obo2bo3bob5o2bo2bobo2bobo$36bo2b2o2bobo
2bo4bo5b3o3bo4b3obob2ob3o$35b2ob3o2bo7bo3bo2bo4bob2o3b2o2bo3b2o$35bo4b
5obo2b3obob2o2b2ob2o2b4o3b3o2bo$36b4o4b2o4bob3obo3bob2o5b3o2bob4obo$
35bobo2b2o2bob2ob6ob3obo3bobob3o3bob2ob2o$35b5ob5o3bo2bo2bob3o4bo4b2ob
2ob2o2b3o$2bo32b2obobobo2bob2ob2o3bo2bo3b2o3bo2b2o6bo$o3bo30b3ob3o2bo
5bo5bob2o3bobo2bobob2o3bo3bo$35bo2b3o5bo5bobob3o2bo2b2obobobo2b2ob2o$
35bob2o5bo2bo3bobobo4bo4bo2b2o2bo2bo2bo2bo$b3o32bobo4bob4o6b2o3bobo10b
9o$35bob7o4b2o2bobob3o2b4o2b3obo2b2ob2ob2o$35bo5bobo4b2ob2o2bo4b2obo8b
o5b2o$42bob2obobo7bo7b3o3b5o3b2o!
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Re: Request a Rule to be "Tamed"

Postby drc » August 24th, 2017, 6:37 pm

Bump . Please tame B3/S1e23iqr and keep the puffer, but prevent this from happening:
x = 14, y = 32, rule = B3/S1e23iqr
11b2o$13bo$13bo$13bo4$b2o2$b2o13$10b2o$12bo$12bo$12bo4$2o2$2o!
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Re: Request a Rule to be "Tamed"

Postby wildmyron » August 24th, 2017, 11:51 pm

drc wrote:Bump . Please tame B3/S1e23iqr and keep the puffer, but prevent this from happening:
x = 14, y = 32, rule = B3/S1e23iqr
11b2o$13bo$13bo$13bo4$b2o2$b2o13$10b2o$12bo$12bo$12bo4$2o2$2o!

Adding B8 seems to give quite tame behaviour, and the puffer is still natural. The behaviour is much less dynamic though
x = 14, y = 32, rule = B38/S1e23iqr
11b2o$13bo$13bo$13bo4$b2o2$b2o13$10b2o$12bo$12bo$12bo4$2o2$2o!


Alternatively, you can add S4c5k to suppress the explosion. I thought that might still be explosive but it seems not to be.
x = 14, y = 32, rule = B3/S1e23iqr4c5k
11b2o$13bo$13bo$13bo4$b2o2$b2o13$10b2o$12bo$12bo$12bo4$2o2$2o!


It also allows you to keep the p21 gun.
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Re: Request a Rule to be "Tamed"

Postby Rhombic » September 5th, 2017, 9:33 am

A rule for this 6c/106
x = 4, y = 4, rule = B2ek3aciqr4a5r/S12ce3aqr4aiq5akr7
o$bo$3bo$3bo!
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Re: Request a Rule to be "Tamed"

Postby M. I. Wright » September 6th, 2017, 6:04 pm

Another "reverse taming" request here. I'd love to see a rule with gliders (i.e. small+common spaceships, not CGoL gliders) that also contains this p46 auto-shuttle:
x = 4, y = 5, rule = B2k3-ckn/S23-ck
o$2obo$o2bo$2obo$o!

Bonus points if the rule allows for this pi ship as well:
x = 9, y = 25, rule = B2k3-kn5ck/S23-ck5ck7e
5b3o$4bo3bo$4b2ob2o6$2o$2o11$o$2obo$o2bo$2obo$o!

And smaller bonus points for any of these other oscs, sorted in descending order of preference.
x = 9, y = 29, rule = B2k3-kn/S23-ck
2bo3bo2$o2b3o2bo$2bobobo$2b2ob2o$2bobobo$o2b3o2bo2$2bo3bo6$bobo$bob2ob
o$o6bo$bob2obo$bobo7$b2o$o3bo$o3bo$b2obo!
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Re: Request a Rule to be "Tamed"

Postby _zM » September 7th, 2017, 12:53 pm

Well, here's one:

x = 50, y = 7, rule = B2k3-cn4ej/S23
4bo41bo$2bobo21bobo16b3o$bo2bo2bo18bob2obo12b2o2bo$5o3b2o15bo6bo14b2o$
bo2bo2bo18bob2obo$2bobo21bobo18bobo$4bo41b2o!


Only the middle oscillator works, unfortunately.

Edit: But there are some linear-growth patterns:

x = 16, y = 16, rule = B2k3-cn4ej/S23
b3obob4o3bo$bob3ob3o3bobo$bo6bobob2o$bobo2bobob2ob2o$bo2bob2ob5o$b3o2b
obo2bobobo$3o4bob4o$3o2b7o2bo$2ob4o3b2o2bo$bobo3b3o4b2o$7ob4o2b2o$6o3b
o5bo$obo5bobob3o$5b7ob3o$3b3ob4o2b3o$8ob4o!


x = 16, y = 16, rule = B2k3-cn4ej/S23
4b3ob2obobo$2ob4obobo2bo$o7bo3bobo$bo3bobo2bo2bobo$o5bo3b6o$2bo3b2ob2o
b2o$6o3b4o2bo$2b2o3bob3o3bo$b4obobo2bo2b2o$2o4b3o2b2o$bo2bobob2o4bo$o
2b3o2bobobo2bo$bobobob3obo3bo$obob3obo2bobobo$3obobob3obobo$2b5obob3ob
o!


x = 16, y = 16, rule = B2k3-cn4ej/S23
bob2ob4o5bo$obo2bob3o3bobo$4o3b5ob2o$6b3o2b3o$b4ob2obo2b3o$b2o5b2ob3ob
o$bobo2b2ob2obo$3o2b6o2b2o$4b3obobo4bo$2o2bobo2b2ob4o$3ob5o4b3o$6bo3b
4o$bob3obobo2bo$obobo3bobob2o$2bobobo3b4obo$2o3b2o2bo2bobo!
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Re: Request a Rule to be "Tamed"

Postby AbhpzTa » September 8th, 2017, 2:13 pm

_zM wrote:Well, here's one:

x = 50, y = 7, rule = B2k3-cn4ej/S23
4bo41bo$2bobo21bobo16b3o$bo2bo2bo18bob2obo12b2o2bo$5o3b2o15bo6bo14b2o$
bo2bo2bo18bob2obo$2bobo21bobo18bobo$4bo41b2o!


Only the middle oscillator works, unfortunately.

Edit: But there are some linear-growth patterns:

x = 16, y = 16, rule = B2k3-cn4ej/S23
b3obob4o3bo$bob3ob3o3bobo$bo6bobob2o$bobo2bobob2ob2o$bo2bob2ob5o$b3o2b
obo2bobobo$3o4bob4o$3o2b7o2bo$2ob4o3b2o2bo$bobo3b3o4b2o$7ob4o2b2o$6o3b
o5bo$obo5bobob3o$5b7ob3o$3b3ob4o2b3o$8ob4o!


x = 16, y = 16, rule = B2k3-cn4ej/S23
4b3ob2obobo$2ob4obobo2bo$o7bo3bobo$bo3bobo2bo2bobo$o5bo3b6o$2bo3b2ob2o
b2o$6o3b4o2bo$2b2o3bob3o3bo$b4obobo2bo2b2o$2o4b3o2b2o$bo2bobob2o4bo$o
2b3o2bobobo2bo$bobobob3obo3bo$obob3obo2bobobo$3obobob3obobo$2b5obob3ob
o!


x = 16, y = 16, rule = B2k3-cn4ej/S23
bob2ob4o5bo$obo2bob3o3bobo$4o3b5ob2o$6b3o2b3o$b4ob2obo2b3o$b2o5b2ob3ob
o$bobo2b2ob2obo$3o2b6o2b2o$4b3obobo4bo$2o2bobo2b2ob4o$3ob5o4b3o$6bo3b
4o$bob3obobo2bo$obobo3bobob2o$2bobobo3b4obo$2o3b2o2bo2bobo!

p24 c/2 pond puffer:
x = 9, y = 13, rule = B2k3-cn4ej/S23
bo$3b2o$2obobo$o4b2o$4b2o$4bo4$6b2o$6bobo$8bo$6b3o!

p54:
x = 39, y = 39, rule = B2k3-cn4ej/S23
21b2o$21bobo$22bo7$17b2ob2o$17bo3bo$18b3o3$7b2o$bo4bobo10bo$obo3bo11bo
bo$2o4bobo9bobo$7b2o7b2o3b2o$15bo7bo$16b2o3b2o7b2o$18bobo9bobo4b2o$18b
obo11bo3bobo$19bo10bobo4bo$30b2o3$18b3o$17bo3bo$17b2ob2o7$16bo$15bobo$
16b2o!

EDIT: p120:
x = 25, y = 25, rule = B2k3-cn4ej/S23
7b2ob2o$7b2obobo$11bo5$23b2o$23b2o2$23b2o$22bobo$bo10b2o9bo$obo10bo$2o
9b2o$11bo$2o$2o5$13bo$12bobob2o$13b2ob2o!
Iteration of sigma(n)+tau(n)-n [sigma(n)+tau(n)-n : OEIS A163163] (e.g. 16,20,28,34,24,44,46,30,50,49,11,3,3, ...) :
965808 is period 336 (max = 207085118608).
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Re: Request a Rule to be "Tamed"

Postby muzik » September 11th, 2017, 11:45 am

Can this extremely explosive rule be tamed while maintaining these adjustable-speed ships?

x = 24, y = 10, rule = B2e3-ceny4ain6k/S01c2cek3ijnq4an
bo6bo6bo6bo3$obo4bobo4bobo4bobo$bo6bo6bo6bo2$2bo$9bo$16bo$23bo!
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Re: Request a Rule to be "Tamed"

Postby gmc_nxtman » September 30th, 2017, 7:53 pm

Can someone tame this rule while keeping the four most common spaceships?

x = 52, y = 6, rule = B2-a3jn4rw6c/S01e2an
obo13bobo15b2o$bo15bo33bo$32bo18bo$32bo16b2o$19bo$18bo!
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Re: Request a Rule to be "Tamed"

Postby _zM » October 14th, 2017, 10:44 am

A stable rule with this spaceship, please and thank you.
x = 7, y = 5, rule = B2e3-ajkr4-t/S23
5bo$3bo2bo$4b2o$o$2o!
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Re: Request a Rule to be "Tamed"

Postby drc » October 14th, 2017, 10:55 am

_zM wrote:A stable rule with this spaceship, please and thank you.
x = 7, y = 5, rule = B2e3-ajkr4-t/S23
5bo$3bo2bo$4b2o$o$2o!

Not that exact spaceship, but this works:
x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2e3-ajr4-irty/S23
2o$2bo$bo!

Of course, you could just play around with the b4 transitions until you gget a big enough spark

Found a small c/6 diagonal in a related (stable!) rule:
x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2e3-ajqr4a/S23
2o$2bo$bo!
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