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Re: Request a Rule to be "Tamed"

Postby Hunting » August 31st, 2018, 8:31 am

UNTAME B2-a3-a4-a/S2 a bit. Keepers:
x = 14, y = 15, rule = B2-a3-a4-a/S2
4o6bo$4o6b3o$4o9bo$4o6b3o$4o6bo6$2o$bo2$3bo$3b2o!

NOTICE: Don't post explosive rule. Make sure the new rule is a chaotic rule, and it's apgsearchable.
Challege: Keep as many pattern shown below as possible.
x = 112, y = 5, rule = B2-a3-a4-a/S2
2o8bo9bo9bo9bobo7bobo8bo8bobo9bo7bo2bo6bo9bo$bo9bo8bo10b2o8bo9bo8b3o7b
obo7bo20bo9bo$20bo10b2o7bobo8bo19bo11bo6bo2bo6bo10bo$33bo26b3o8bo9bo
28bo$61bo!

Another Challege: Untame it with fewest transistion.
Another Another Challege: The new rule must have natural small infinity growth(but no small breeder).
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Re: Request a Rule to be "Tamed"

Postby Gamedziner » August 31st, 2018, 9:07 am

Hunting wrote:UNTAME B2-a3-a4-a/S2 a bit. Keepers:
x = 14, y = 15, rule = B2-a3-a4-a/S2
4o6bo$4o6b3o$4o9bo$4o6b3o$4o6bo6$2o$bo2$3bo$3b2o!

NOTICE: Don't post explosive rule. Make sure the new rule is a chaotic rule, and it's apgsearchable.
Challege: Keep as many pattern shown below as possible.
x = 112, y = 5, rule = B2-a3-a4-a/S2
2o8bo9bo9bo9bobo7bobo8bo8bobo9bo7bo2bo6bo9bo$bo9bo8bo10b2o8bo9bo8b3o7b
obo7bo20bo9bo$20bo10b2o7bobo8bo19bo11bo6bo2bo6bo10bo$33bo26b3o8bo9bo
28bo$61bo!

Another Challege: Untame it with fewest transistion.
Another Another Challege: The new rule must have natural small infinity growth(but no small breeder).

Adding B6a seems to make it borderline:
x = 99, y = 1, rule = B2-a3-a4-a6a/S2
99o!

Excluding the ships, I can't tell if this pattern will explode, even after 70,000 generations.
x = 81, y = 96, rule = LifeHistory
58.2A$58.2A3$59.2A17.2A$59.2A17.2A3$79.2A$79.2A2$57.A$56.A$56.3A4$27.
A$27.A.A$27.2A21$3.2A$3.2A2.2A$7.2A18$7.2A$7.2A2.2A$11.2A11$2A$2A2.2A
$4.2A18$4.2A$4.2A2.2A$8.2A!
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Re: Request a Rule to be "Tamed"

Postby Hunting » August 31st, 2018, 9:36 am

Gamedziner wrote:
Hunting wrote:UNTAME B2-a3-a4-a/S2 a bit. Keepers:
x = 14, y = 15, rule = B2-a3-a4-a/S2
4o6bo$4o6b3o$4o9bo$4o6b3o$4o6bo6$2o$bo2$3bo$3b2o!

NOTICE: Don't post explosive rule. Make sure the new rule is a chaotic rule, and it's apgsearchable.
Challege: Keep as many pattern shown below as possible.
x = 112, y = 5, rule = B2-a3-a4-a/S2
2o8bo9bo9bo9bobo7bobo8bo8bobo9bo7bo2bo6bo9bo$bo9bo8bo10b2o8bo9bo8b3o7b
obo7bo20bo9bo$20bo10b2o7bobo8bo19bo11bo6bo2bo6bo10bo$33bo26b3o8bo9bo
28bo$61bo!

Another Challege: Untame it with fewest transistion.
Another Another Challege: The new rule must have natural small infinity growth(but no small breeder).

Adding B6a seems to make it borderline:
x = 99, y = 1, rule = B2-a3-a4-a6a/S2
99o!

Excluding the ships, I can't tell if this pattern will explode, even after 70,000 generations.

It's chaotic, but it's TOO chaotic. For some more challege, I need a chaotic rule like Life. In Life, There isn't chaotic clouds, but some Hershel and Pi-heptomino(They are very common). So I need a Untamed Rule without chaotic cloud but some common methu.
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Re: Request a Rule to be "Tamed"

Postby Macbi » August 31st, 2018, 12:01 pm

Gamedziner wrote:Adding B6a seems to make it borderline:
x = 99, y = 1, rule = B2-a3-a4-a6a/S2
99o!

Excluding the ships, I can't tell if this pattern will explode, even after 70,000 generations.

It's still going after a million generations, so I doubt it will ever stabilise.

EDIT: On the other hand, I ran a large random soup (2000 x 3000) and it did eventually stabilise. So maybe it's the symmetry that made the above pattern last so long.
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Re: Request a Rule to be "Tamed"

Postby Hdjensofjfnen » August 31st, 2018, 6:29 pm

Here you go!
x = 32, y = 32, rule = B2-a3-a4-a/S23r
7obo2b2ob2o5bobo2bo2bo$b3obo5b5o3bo4b6obo$o2b2obob2ob4obobobo3bo2bo2b
2o$2bo2b2o3b3ob2o2b5ob4obo$o3b2o3b2obo2b2o3b2o3bo2bo$bobobobo2b3obob3o
2bob3obo2b2o$o2b2obo3b4o4b4ob2obobo$ob3o2bo6bo2bob2o3b2ob2obo$b4o3bobo
b5o2b3o2bo2bo2bo$obob2obo5b3obo2b5ob2obo$b3ob2o2b5obob5ob4o3b2o$b2o5b
2o7bo3bob2o3bob2o$4o6b2o3b3o3b2o2b2ob2o$2b3ob5obo2bob3obobob5o$3obob2o
b2ob9obobob2obo$bob4o2bo2b2obob4o4b2obobo$bo2b3obo7bo6b2o2b3obo$obo3bo
3b2o4b4o2bo2bo2b2o$3o2b2o2b2obo4b2o2bo2bob3obo$bo2bobob3o2b2o2b2o3bo5b
4o$2bo4b9ob2obo3bobob3o$o2bobobo4b6o3b5obobobo$o2b4o2bo3bo3b2o2bo3bob
2o2bo$ob4o2bo4b2ob3ob3ob5o2bo$b3o4b5obo2bob2o3b2ob2o2bo$2o7bo3b2obo2bo
2b2ob2ob4o$2o5b2o2b3obob2o5bo2b4o$9b3obo2b2obo2b2o2b5o$b3obob2o2b7obob
2obo2bobobo$3b2ob4o6bobo2bo4bo2b3o$4bo3bobobo2bob4o2b4o3bo$5o3b2obob2o
3bo3bo2bobo!


EDIT: Hold on, same problem with B6a.
x = 17, y = 1, rule = B2-a3-a4-a/S23r
17o!
Life is hard. Deal with it.
My favorite oscillator of all time:
x = 7, y = 5, rule = B3/S2-i3-y4i
4b3o$6bo$o3b3o$2o$bo!
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Re: Request a Rule to be "Tamed"

Postby Hunting » August 31st, 2018, 11:44 pm

Untame B2-a3-a4i5a/S123ir but keep this cool SS:
x = 3, y = 5, rule = B2-a3-a4i5a/S123ir
b2o$o2$o$b2o!

3c/105
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Re: Request a Rule to be "Tamed"

Postby 77topaz » September 1st, 2018, 1:17 am

Removing B4i makes the S3r variant more stable:
x = 17, y = 1, rule = B2-a3-a4-ai/S23r
17o!


But it, surprisingly, has the opposite effect for the B6a variant:
x = 99, y = 1, rule = B2-a3-a4-ai6a/S2
99o!
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Re: Request a Rule to be "Tamed"

Postby LaundryPizza03 » December 24th, 2018, 4:52 pm

Hunting wrote:UNTAME B2-a3-a4-a/S2 a bit. Keepers:
x = 14, y = 15, rule = B2-a3-a4-a/S2
4o6bo$4o6b3o$4o9bo$4o6b3o$4o6bo6$2o$bo2$3bo$3b2o!

NOTICE: Don't post explosive rule. Make sure the new rule is a chaotic rule, and it's apgsearchable.
Challege: Keep as many pattern shown below as possible.
x = 112, y = 5, rule = B2-a3-a4-a/S2
2o8bo9bo9bo9bobo7bobo8bo8bobo9bo7bo2bo6bo9bo$bo9bo8bo10b2o8bo9bo8b3o7b
obo7bo20bo9bo$20bo10b2o7bobo8bo19bo11bo6bo2bo6bo10bo$33bo26b3o8bo9bo
28bo$61bo!

Another Challege: Untame it with fewest transistion.
Another Another Challege: The new rule must have natural small infinity growth(but no small breeder).


B2-a3-a4-a/S24w works (except for the infinite growth part):
x = 1200, y = 1, rule = B2-a3-a4-a/S24w
1200o!

x = 1200, y = 1, rule = B2-a3-a4-a/S2
1200o!

x = 14, y = 15, rule = B2-a3-a4-a/S24w
4o6bo$4o6b3o$4o9bo$4o6b3o$4o6bo6$2o$bo2$3bo$3b2o!

x = 112, y = 5, rule = B2-a3-a4-a/S24w
2o8bo9bo9bo9bobo7bobo8bo8bobo9bo7bo2bo6bo9bo$bo9bo8bo10b2o8bo9bo8b3o7b
obo7bo20bo9bo$20bo10b2o7bobo8bo19bo11bo6bo2bo6bo10bo$33bo26b3o8bo9bo
28bo$61bo!

However, it does add a p36 oscillator and a 2c/68 diagonal ship:
x = 17, y = 5, rule = B2-a3-a4-a/S24w
2bo9b3o$3bo$2bobo9b3o2$3o11b3o!
x = 4, y = 3, rule = B3-q4z5y/S234k5j
2b2o$b2o$2o!

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Re: Request a Rule to be "Tamed"

Postby 77topaz » December 29th, 2018, 7:10 am

B2-a3-a4-a/S24w also has a small p29:
x = 3, y = 9, rule = B2-a3-a4-a/S24w
2bo$bo2$bo$bo$bo2$bo$o!
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Re: Request a Rule to be "Tamed"

Postby Hunting » January 1st, 2019, 3:14 am

LaundryPizza03 wrote:
Hunting wrote:UNTAME B2-a3-a4-a/S2 a bit. Keepers:
x = 14, y = 15, rule = B2-a3-a4-a/S2
4o6bo$4o6b3o$4o9bo$4o6b3o$4o6bo6$2o$bo2$3bo$3b2o!

NOTICE: Don't post explosive rule. Make sure the new rule is a chaotic rule, and it's apgsearchable.
Challege: Keep as many pattern shown below as possible.
x = 112, y = 5, rule = B2-a3-a4-a/S2
2o8bo9bo9bo9bobo7bobo8bo8bobo9bo7bo2bo6bo9bo$bo9bo8bo10b2o8bo9bo8b3o7b
obo7bo20bo9bo$20bo10b2o7bobo8bo19bo11bo6bo2bo6bo10bo$33bo26b3o8bo9bo
28bo$61bo!

Another Challege: Untame it with fewest transistion.
Another Another Challege: The new rule must have natural small infinity growth(but no small breeder).


B2-a3-a4-a/S24w works (except for the infinite growth part):
x = 1200, y = 1, rule = B2-a3-a4-a/S24w
1200o!

x = 1200, y = 1, rule = B2-a3-a4-a/S2
1200o!

x = 14, y = 15, rule = B2-a3-a4-a/S24w
4o6bo$4o6b3o$4o9bo$4o6b3o$4o6bo6$2o$bo2$3bo$3b2o!

x = 112, y = 5, rule = B2-a3-a4-a/S24w
2o8bo9bo9bo9bobo7bobo8bo8bobo9bo7bo2bo6bo9bo$bo9bo8bo10b2o8bo9bo8b3o7b
obo7bo20bo9bo$20bo10b2o7bobo8bo19bo11bo6bo2bo6bo10bo$33bo26b3o8bo9bo
28bo$61bo!

However, it does add a p36 oscillator and a 2c/68 diagonal ship:
x = 17, y = 5, rule = B2-a3-a4-a/S24w
2bo9b3o$3bo$2bobo9b3o2$3o11b3o!

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Re: Request a Rule to be "Tamed"

Postby 77topaz » January 1st, 2019, 3:53 am

B2-a3-a4-a/S24w also has a small, natural p16:
x = 8, y = 8, rule = B2-a3-a4-a/S24w
4bo$5bo$5b2o$7bo$o$b2o$2bo$3bo!


And a natural p54:
x = 5, y = 9, rule = B2-a3-a4-a/S24w
obo$2o$3o2$2bo2$2b3o$3b2o$2bobo!
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Re: Request a Rule to be "Tamed"

Postby Hunting » January 4th, 2019, 12:54 pm

77topaz wrote:B2-a3-a4-a/S24w also has a small, natural p16:
x = 8, y = 8, rule = B2-a3-a4-a/S24w
4bo$5bo$5b2o$7bo$o$b2o$2bo$3bo!


And a natural p54:
x = 5, y = 9, rule = B2-a3-a4-a/S24w
obo$2o$3o2$2bo2$2b3o$3b2o$2bobo!

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Re: Request a Rule to be "Tamed"

Postby cordership3 » January 23rd, 2019, 12:14 pm

Preserve the ship on the left (2c/122) while removing the replicator.
x = 28, y = 6, rule = B3-r4jkwz5ek6ckn/S23-e
2$b3o$bo19b5o$b2o!
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Re: Request a Rule to be "Tamed"

Postby Ian07 » January 23rd, 2019, 12:47 pm

cordership3 wrote:Preserve the ship on the left (2c/122) while removing the replicator.
x = 28, y = 6, rule = B3-r4jkwz5ek6ckn/S23-e
2$b3o$bo19b5o$b2o!


Adding S4c and S8 works:
x = 28, y = 6, rule = B3-r4jkwz5ek6ckn/S23-e4c8
2$b3o$bo19b5o$b2o!
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Re: Request a Rule to be "Tamed"

Postby Hunting » January 31st, 2019, 8:37 am

Untame B2cei3i4jq5ck/S13y, keepers:
x = 22, y = 3, rule = B2cei3i4jq5ck/S13y
bo8bo9bo$bo19bo$o9bo9bo!

Make this more common
x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2cei3i4jq5ck/S13y
obo$bo$o!
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Re: Request a Rule to be "Tamed"

Postby LaundryPizza03 » June 21st, 2019, 1:14 am

Tame this rule, keeping the p168 and the 8c/28 but removing or reducing the puffer.
x = 102, y = 132, rule = B2i3aeiqr4eq5a/S2ae3cijnr4ciq5a
38bo8bo44bo$38b2o6b2o44bo$35bo3b2o4b2o3bo39b3o$37bo10bo$36bo12bo$33b2o
16b2o$34b2o14b2o$35bo14bo34bo$85bo$38bob2o2b2obo35b3o$39b2o4b2o13$98b
3o$98bo2bo$98bo2bo$99b3o56$8b2o$7bob2o$7b3o$8bo3b2o$4b2o6bo$3bob2o5bo$
3b3o$4bo7bo$9bo$8b3o5bo$7b2obo$8b2o2$6bo8bo$5b2o6b2o$4b3o5b3o$7b3o5b3o
$2bo4b2o6b2o$b2o4bo7bo26bo$3o39b2o$3b3o33bo3b2o$3bo2bo23bo10bo$3bo2bo
22b2o9bo$4b3o21b3o6b2o3b3o$7b3o21b3o4b2o2b3o$7b2o22b2o6bo2b3o$7bo23b4o
$34b2o$8b2o21bo3b2o$7bobo12bo10bo$8b3o10b2o9bo26b2o$10bo9b3o6b2o3bo24b
obo$11bo11b3o4b2o30bo$23b2o6bo28b2o$23bo18bo7bo$42b2o6b2o$39bo3b2o2bo
3b2o3bo$41bo7bo5bo$40bo7bo7bobo3bo$37b2o3bo2b2o3bo2b2o2bo4b2o$38b2o6b
2o6b2o7b2o$39bo7bo7bo3bo2$61bo$56bo2$58bo$53b2o$54b2o$55bo!
x = 4, y = 3, rule = B3-q4z5y/S234k5j
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Re: Request a Rule to be "Tamed"

Postby Hdjensofjfnen » July 7th, 2019, 12:34 am

LaundryPizza03 wrote:Tame this rule, keeping the p168 and the 8c/28 but removing or reducing the puffer.

I believe it's actually a rake.
Anyway, adding S8 makes the rake less smoky and ridiculous, but also causes other large conflagrations to form. In this case, the original rake pattern you posted evolves into a tame rake and a methuselah that lasts over 30k generations:
x = 102, y = 132, rule = B2i3aeiqr4eq5a/S2ae3cijnr4ciq5a8
38bo8bo44bo$38b2o6b2o44bo$35bo3b2o4b2o3bo39b3o$37bo10bo$36bo12bo$33b2o
16b2o$34b2o14b2o$35bo14bo34bo$85bo$38bob2o2b2obo35b3o$39b2o4b2o13$98b
3o$98bo2bo$98bo2bo$99b3o56$8b2o$7bob2o$7b3o$8bo3b2o$4b2o6bo$3bob2o5bo$
3b3o$4bo7bo$9bo$8b3o5bo$7b2obo$8b2o2$6bo8bo$5b2o6b2o$4b3o5b3o$7b3o5b3o
$2bo4b2o6b2o$b2o4bo7bo26bo$3o39b2o$3b3o33bo3b2o$3bo2bo23bo10bo$3bo2bo
22b2o9bo$4b3o21b3o6b2o3b3o$7b3o21b3o4b2o2b3o$7b2o22b2o6bo2b3o$7bo23b4o
$34b2o$8b2o21bo3b2o$7bobo12bo10bo$8b3o10b2o9bo26b2o$10bo9b3o6b2o3bo24b
obo$11bo11b3o4b2o30bo$23b2o6bo28b2o$23bo18bo7bo$42b2o6b2o$39bo3b2o2bo
3b2o3bo$41bo7bo5bo$40bo7bo7bobo3bo$37b2o3bo2b2o3bo2b2o2bo4b2o$38b2o6b
2o6b2o7b2o$39bo7bo7bo3bo2$61bo$56bo2$58bo$53b2o$54b2o$55bo!

EDIT: Not to mention another rake:
x = 20, y = 29, rule = B2i3aeiqr4eq5a/S2ae3cijnr4ciq5a8
6bo2bo$9bo6$14b3o$14bo2bo$14bob3o$12b2ob3obo$12b3obo2bo$10bo2b2o2b3o$
10b3o$o$o$3o3$9bo2bobo2b3o$9b2o3bobo2bo$7bo2b2o2bo2bobo$6bobo5b2o2bo$
6bo2bo3bo2bo$6b3o4bo2bo$11bo2b2o$10bobo$10bo2bo$10b3o!

In a way, this rule makes me think of antiparticles and Hawking radiation. Not only does the failedrep produce two pairs of gliders that annihilate each other, the reaction can be interfered with such that some gliders can escape.
Life is hard. Deal with it.
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4b3o$6bo$o3b3o$2o$bo!
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Re: Request a Rule to be "Tamed"

Postby Moosey » July 7th, 2019, 7:23 am

Rather sudden death in that rule:
x = 12, y = 16, rule = B2i3aeiqr4eq5a/S2ae3cijnr4ciq5a8
4b3o$4bo2bo$4bo2bo$5b3o$8b3o$8bo2bo$8bo2bo$9b3o5$3o$o2bo$o2bo$b3o!

EDIT:
x = 18, y = 13, rule = B2i3aeiqr4eq5a/S2ae3cijnr4ciq5a8
11bo$10b2o$9b2o2bo$10bo2bo$12b2o$14b3o$14bo2bo$14bo2bo$15b3o$b3o6b3o$o
2bo6bo2bo$o2bo6bo2bo$3o8b3o!
My rules can be found here

Also, the tree game
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