## Request a Rule to be "Tamed"

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### Re: Request a Rule to be "Tamed"

UNTAME B2-a3-a4-a/S2 a bit. Keepers:
`x = 14, y = 15, rule = B2-a3-a4-a/S24o6bo\$4o6b3o\$4o9bo\$4o6b3o\$4o6bo6\$2o\$bo2\$3bo\$3b2o!`

NOTICE: Don't post explosive rule. Make sure the new rule is a chaotic rule, and it's apgsearchable.
Challege: Keep as many pattern shown below as possible.
`x = 112, y = 5, rule = B2-a3-a4-a/S22o8bo9bo9bo9bobo7bobo8bo8bobo9bo7bo2bo6bo9bo\$bo9bo8bo10b2o8bo9bo8b3o7bobo7bo20bo9bo\$20bo10b2o7bobo8bo19bo11bo6bo2bo6bo10bo\$33bo26b3o8bo9bo28bo\$61bo!`

Another Challege: Untame it with fewest transistion.
Another Another Challege: The new rule must have natural small infinity growth(but no small breeder).
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### Re: Request a Rule to be "Tamed"

Hunting wrote:UNTAME B2-a3-a4-a/S2 a bit. Keepers:
`x = 14, y = 15, rule = B2-a3-a4-a/S24o6bo\$4o6b3o\$4o9bo\$4o6b3o\$4o6bo6\$2o\$bo2\$3bo\$3b2o!`

NOTICE: Don't post explosive rule. Make sure the new rule is a chaotic rule, and it's apgsearchable.
Challege: Keep as many pattern shown below as possible.
`x = 112, y = 5, rule = B2-a3-a4-a/S22o8bo9bo9bo9bobo7bobo8bo8bobo9bo7bo2bo6bo9bo\$bo9bo8bo10b2o8bo9bo8b3o7bobo7bo20bo9bo\$20bo10b2o7bobo8bo19bo11bo6bo2bo6bo10bo\$33bo26b3o8bo9bo28bo\$61bo!`

Another Challege: Untame it with fewest transistion.
Another Another Challege: The new rule must have natural small infinity growth(but no small breeder).

Adding B6a seems to make it borderline:
`x = 99, y = 1, rule = B2-a3-a4-a6a/S299o!`

Excluding the ships, I can't tell if this pattern will explode, even after 70,000 generations.
`x = 81, y = 96, rule = LifeHistory58.2A\$58.2A3\$59.2A17.2A\$59.2A17.2A3\$79.2A\$79.2A2\$57.A\$56.A\$56.3A4\$27.A\$27.A.A\$27.2A21\$3.2A\$3.2A2.2A\$7.2A18\$7.2A\$7.2A2.2A\$11.2A11\$2A\$2A2.2A\$4.2A18\$4.2A\$4.2A2.2A\$8.2A!`
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### Re: Request a Rule to be "Tamed"

Gamedziner wrote:
Hunting wrote:UNTAME B2-a3-a4-a/S2 a bit. Keepers:
`x = 14, y = 15, rule = B2-a3-a4-a/S24o6bo\$4o6b3o\$4o9bo\$4o6b3o\$4o6bo6\$2o\$bo2\$3bo\$3b2o!`

NOTICE: Don't post explosive rule. Make sure the new rule is a chaotic rule, and it's apgsearchable.
Challege: Keep as many pattern shown below as possible.
`x = 112, y = 5, rule = B2-a3-a4-a/S22o8bo9bo9bo9bobo7bobo8bo8bobo9bo7bo2bo6bo9bo\$bo9bo8bo10b2o8bo9bo8b3o7bobo7bo20bo9bo\$20bo10b2o7bobo8bo19bo11bo6bo2bo6bo10bo\$33bo26b3o8bo9bo28bo\$61bo!`

Another Challege: Untame it with fewest transistion.
Another Another Challege: The new rule must have natural small infinity growth(but no small breeder).

Adding B6a seems to make it borderline:
`x = 99, y = 1, rule = B2-a3-a4-a6a/S299o!`

Excluding the ships, I can't tell if this pattern will explode, even after 70,000 generations.

It's chaotic, but it's TOO chaotic. For some more challege, I need a chaotic rule like Life. In Life, There isn't chaotic clouds, but some Hershel and Pi-heptomino(They are very common). So I need a Untamed Rule without chaotic cloud but some common methu.
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### Re: Request a Rule to be "Tamed"

Gamedziner wrote:Adding B6a seems to make it borderline:
`x = 99, y = 1, rule = B2-a3-a4-a6a/S299o!`

Excluding the ships, I can't tell if this pattern will explode, even after 70,000 generations.

It's still going after a million generations, so I doubt it will ever stabilise.

EDIT: On the other hand, I ran a large random soup (2000 x 3000) and it did eventually stabilise. So maybe it's the symmetry that made the above pattern last so long.

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### Re: Request a Rule to be "Tamed"

Here you go!
`x = 32, y = 32, rule = B2-a3-a4-a/S23r7obo2b2ob2o5bobo2bo2bo\$b3obo5b5o3bo4b6obo\$o2b2obob2ob4obobobo3bo2bo2b2o\$2bo2b2o3b3ob2o2b5ob4obo\$o3b2o3b2obo2b2o3b2o3bo2bo\$bobobobo2b3obob3o2bob3obo2b2o\$o2b2obo3b4o4b4ob2obobo\$ob3o2bo6bo2bob2o3b2ob2obo\$b4o3bobob5o2b3o2bo2bo2bo\$obob2obo5b3obo2b5ob2obo\$b3ob2o2b5obob5ob4o3b2o\$b2o5b2o7bo3bob2o3bob2o\$4o6b2o3b3o3b2o2b2ob2o\$2b3ob5obo2bob3obobob5o\$3obob2ob2ob9obobob2obo\$bob4o2bo2b2obob4o4b2obobo\$bo2b3obo7bo6b2o2b3obo\$obo3bo3b2o4b4o2bo2bo2b2o\$3o2b2o2b2obo4b2o2bo2bob3obo\$bo2bobob3o2b2o2b2o3bo5b4o\$2bo4b9ob2obo3bobob3o\$o2bobobo4b6o3b5obobobo\$o2b4o2bo3bo3b2o2bo3bob2o2bo\$ob4o2bo4b2ob3ob3ob5o2bo\$b3o4b5obo2bob2o3b2ob2o2bo\$2o7bo3b2obo2bo2b2ob2ob4o\$2o5b2o2b3obob2o5bo2b4o\$9b3obo2b2obo2b2o2b5o\$b3obob2o2b7obob2obo2bobobo\$3b2ob4o6bobo2bo4bo2b3o\$4bo3bobobo2bob4o2b4o3bo\$5o3b2obob2o3bo3bo2bobo!`

EDIT: Hold on, same problem with B6a.
`x = 17, y = 1, rule = B2-a3-a4-a/S23r17o!`
Life is hard. Deal with it.
My favorite oscillator of all time:
`x = 7, y = 5, rule = B3/S2-i3-y4i4b3o\$6bo\$o3b3o\$2o\$bo!`

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### Re: Request a Rule to be "Tamed"

Untame B2-a3-a4i5a/S123ir but keep this cool SS:
`x = 3, y = 5, rule = B2-a3-a4i5a/S123irb2o\$o2\$o\$b2o!`

3c/105
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### Re: Request a Rule to be "Tamed"

Removing B4i makes the S3r variant more stable:
`x = 17, y = 1, rule = B2-a3-a4-ai/S23r17o!`

But it, surprisingly, has the opposite effect for the B6a variant:
`x = 99, y = 1, rule = B2-a3-a4-ai6a/S299o!`

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### Re: Request a Rule to be "Tamed"

Hunting wrote:UNTAME B2-a3-a4-a/S2 a bit. Keepers:
`x = 14, y = 15, rule = B2-a3-a4-a/S24o6bo\$4o6b3o\$4o9bo\$4o6b3o\$4o6bo6\$2o\$bo2\$3bo\$3b2o!`

NOTICE: Don't post explosive rule. Make sure the new rule is a chaotic rule, and it's apgsearchable.
Challege: Keep as many pattern shown below as possible.
`x = 112, y = 5, rule = B2-a3-a4-a/S22o8bo9bo9bo9bobo7bobo8bo8bobo9bo7bo2bo6bo9bo\$bo9bo8bo10b2o8bo9bo8b3o7bobo7bo20bo9bo\$20bo10b2o7bobo8bo19bo11bo6bo2bo6bo10bo\$33bo26b3o8bo9bo28bo\$61bo!`

Another Challege: Untame it with fewest transistion.
Another Another Challege: The new rule must have natural small infinity growth(but no small breeder).

B2-a3-a4-a/S24w works (except for the infinite growth part):
`x = 1200, y = 1, rule = B2-a3-a4-a/S24w1200o!`

`x = 1200, y = 1, rule = B2-a3-a4-a/S21200o!`

`x = 14, y = 15, rule = B2-a3-a4-a/S24w4o6bo\$4o6b3o\$4o9bo\$4o6b3o\$4o6bo6\$2o\$bo2\$3bo\$3b2o!`

`x = 112, y = 5, rule = B2-a3-a4-a/S24w2o8bo9bo9bo9bobo7bobo8bo8bobo9bo7bo2bo6bo9bo\$bo9bo8bo10b2o8bo9bo8b3o7bobo7bo20bo9bo\$20bo10b2o7bobo8bo19bo11bo6bo2bo6bo10bo\$33bo26b3o8bo9bo28bo\$61bo!`

However, it does add a p36 oscillator and a 2c/68 diagonal ship:
`x = 17, y = 5, rule = B2-a3-a4-a/S24w2bo9b3o\$3bo\$2bobo9b3o2\$3o11b3o!`
`x = 4, y = 3, rule = B3-q4z5y/S234k5j2b2o\$b2o\$2o!`

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### Re: Request a Rule to be "Tamed"

B2-a3-a4-a/S24w also has a small p29:
`x = 3, y = 9, rule = B2-a3-a4-a/S24w2bo\$bo2\$bo\$bo\$bo2\$bo\$o!`

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### Re: Request a Rule to be "Tamed"

LaundryPizza03 wrote:
Hunting wrote:UNTAME B2-a3-a4-a/S2 a bit. Keepers:
`x = 14, y = 15, rule = B2-a3-a4-a/S24o6bo\$4o6b3o\$4o9bo\$4o6b3o\$4o6bo6\$2o\$bo2\$3bo\$3b2o!`

NOTICE: Don't post explosive rule. Make sure the new rule is a chaotic rule, and it's apgsearchable.
Challege: Keep as many pattern shown below as possible.
`x = 112, y = 5, rule = B2-a3-a4-a/S22o8bo9bo9bo9bobo7bobo8bo8bobo9bo7bo2bo6bo9bo\$bo9bo8bo10b2o8bo9bo8b3o7bobo7bo20bo9bo\$20bo10b2o7bobo8bo19bo11bo6bo2bo6bo10bo\$33bo26b3o8bo9bo28bo\$61bo!`

Another Challege: Untame it with fewest transistion.
Another Another Challege: The new rule must have natural small infinity growth(but no small breeder).

B2-a3-a4-a/S24w works (except for the infinite growth part):
`x = 1200, y = 1, rule = B2-a3-a4-a/S24w1200o!`

`x = 1200, y = 1, rule = B2-a3-a4-a/S21200o!`

`x = 14, y = 15, rule = B2-a3-a4-a/S24w4o6bo\$4o6b3o\$4o9bo\$4o6b3o\$4o6bo6\$2o\$bo2\$3bo\$3b2o!`

`x = 112, y = 5, rule = B2-a3-a4-a/S24w2o8bo9bo9bo9bobo7bobo8bo8bobo9bo7bo2bo6bo9bo\$bo9bo8bo10b2o8bo9bo8b3o7bobo7bo20bo9bo\$20bo10b2o7bobo8bo19bo11bo6bo2bo6bo10bo\$33bo26b3o8bo9bo28bo\$61bo!`

However, it does add a p36 oscillator and a 2c/68 diagonal ship:
`x = 17, y = 5, rule = B2-a3-a4-a/S24w2bo9b3o\$3bo\$2bobo9b3o2\$3o11b3o!`

Which is great!
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### Re: Request a Rule to be "Tamed"

B2-a3-a4-a/S24w also has a small, natural p16:
`x = 8, y = 8, rule = B2-a3-a4-a/S24w4bo\$5bo\$5b2o\$7bo\$o\$b2o\$2bo\$3bo!`

And a natural p54:
`x = 5, y = 9, rule = B2-a3-a4-a/S24wobo\$2o\$3o2\$2bo2\$2b3o\$3b2o\$2bobo!`

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### Re: Request a Rule to be "Tamed"

77topaz wrote:B2-a3-a4-a/S24w also has a small, natural p16:
`x = 8, y = 8, rule = B2-a3-a4-a/S24w4bo\$5bo\$5b2o\$7bo\$o\$b2o\$2bo\$3bo!`

And a natural p54:
`x = 5, y = 9, rule = B2-a3-a4-a/S24wobo\$2o\$3o2\$2bo2\$2b3o\$3b2o\$2bobo!`

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### Re: Request a Rule to be "Tamed"

Preserve the ship on the left (2c/122) while removing the replicator.
`x = 28, y = 6, rule = B3-r4jkwz5ek6ckn/S23-e2\$b3o\$bo19b5o\$b2o!`

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### Re: Request a Rule to be "Tamed"

cordership3 wrote:Preserve the ship on the left (2c/122) while removing the replicator.
`x = 28, y = 6, rule = B3-r4jkwz5ek6ckn/S23-e2\$b3o\$bo19b5o\$b2o!`

`x = 28, y = 6, rule = B3-r4jkwz5ek6ckn/S23-e4c82\$b3o\$bo19b5o\$b2o!`
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### Re: Request a Rule to be "Tamed"

Untame B2cei3i4jq5ck/S13y, keepers:
`x = 22, y = 3, rule = B2cei3i4jq5ck/S13ybo8bo9bo\$bo19bo\$o9bo9bo!`

Make this more common
`x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2cei3i4jq5ck/S13yobo\$bo\$o!`
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### Re: Request a Rule to be "Tamed"

Tame this rule, keeping the p168 and the 8c/28 but removing or reducing the puffer.
`x = 102, y = 132, rule = B2i3aeiqr4eq5a/S2ae3cijnr4ciq5a38bo8bo44bo\$38b2o6b2o44bo\$35bo3b2o4b2o3bo39b3o\$37bo10bo\$36bo12bo\$33b2o16b2o\$34b2o14b2o\$35bo14bo34bo\$85bo\$38bob2o2b2obo35b3o\$39b2o4b2o13\$98b3o\$98bo2bo\$98bo2bo\$99b3o56\$8b2o\$7bob2o\$7b3o\$8bo3b2o\$4b2o6bo\$3bob2o5bo\$3b3o\$4bo7bo\$9bo\$8b3o5bo\$7b2obo\$8b2o2\$6bo8bo\$5b2o6b2o\$4b3o5b3o\$7b3o5b3o\$2bo4b2o6b2o\$b2o4bo7bo26bo\$3o39b2o\$3b3o33bo3b2o\$3bo2bo23bo10bo\$3bo2bo22b2o9bo\$4b3o21b3o6b2o3b3o\$7b3o21b3o4b2o2b3o\$7b2o22b2o6bo2b3o\$7bo23b4o\$34b2o\$8b2o21bo3b2o\$7bobo12bo10bo\$8b3o10b2o9bo26b2o\$10bo9b3o6b2o3bo24bobo\$11bo11b3o4b2o30bo\$23b2o6bo28b2o\$23bo18bo7bo\$42b2o6b2o\$39bo3b2o2bo3b2o3bo\$41bo7bo5bo\$40bo7bo7bobo3bo\$37b2o3bo2b2o3bo2b2o2bo4b2o\$38b2o6b2o6b2o7b2o\$39bo7bo7bo3bo2\$61bo\$56bo2\$58bo\$53b2o\$54b2o\$55bo!`
`x = 4, y = 3, rule = B3-q4z5y/S234k5j2b2o\$b2o\$2o!`

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### Re: Request a Rule to be "Tamed"

LaundryPizza03 wrote:Tame this rule, keeping the p168 and the 8c/28 but removing or reducing the puffer.

I believe it's actually a rake.
Anyway, adding S8 makes the rake less smoky and ridiculous, but also causes other large conflagrations to form. In this case, the original rake pattern you posted evolves into a tame rake and a methuselah that lasts over 30k generations:
`x = 102, y = 132, rule = B2i3aeiqr4eq5a/S2ae3cijnr4ciq5a838bo8bo44bo\$38b2o6b2o44bo\$35bo3b2o4b2o3bo39b3o\$37bo10bo\$36bo12bo\$33b2o16b2o\$34b2o14b2o\$35bo14bo34bo\$85bo\$38bob2o2b2obo35b3o\$39b2o4b2o13\$98b3o\$98bo2bo\$98bo2bo\$99b3o56\$8b2o\$7bob2o\$7b3o\$8bo3b2o\$4b2o6bo\$3bob2o5bo\$3b3o\$4bo7bo\$9bo\$8b3o5bo\$7b2obo\$8b2o2\$6bo8bo\$5b2o6b2o\$4b3o5b3o\$7b3o5b3o\$2bo4b2o6b2o\$b2o4bo7bo26bo\$3o39b2o\$3b3o33bo3b2o\$3bo2bo23bo10bo\$3bo2bo22b2o9bo\$4b3o21b3o6b2o3b3o\$7b3o21b3o4b2o2b3o\$7b2o22b2o6bo2b3o\$7bo23b4o\$34b2o\$8b2o21bo3b2o\$7bobo12bo10bo\$8b3o10b2o9bo26b2o\$10bo9b3o6b2o3bo24bobo\$11bo11b3o4b2o30bo\$23b2o6bo28b2o\$23bo18bo7bo\$42b2o6b2o\$39bo3b2o2bo3b2o3bo\$41bo7bo5bo\$40bo7bo7bobo3bo\$37b2o3bo2b2o3bo2b2o2bo4b2o\$38b2o6b2o6b2o7b2o\$39bo7bo7bo3bo2\$61bo\$56bo2\$58bo\$53b2o\$54b2o\$55bo!`

EDIT: Not to mention another rake:
`x = 20, y = 29, rule = B2i3aeiqr4eq5a/S2ae3cijnr4ciq5a86bo2bo\$9bo6\$14b3o\$14bo2bo\$14bob3o\$12b2ob3obo\$12b3obo2bo\$10bo2b2o2b3o\$10b3o\$o\$o\$3o3\$9bo2bobo2b3o\$9b2o3bobo2bo\$7bo2b2o2bo2bobo\$6bobo5b2o2bo\$6bo2bo3bo2bo\$6b3o4bo2bo\$11bo2b2o\$10bobo\$10bo2bo\$10b3o!`

In a way, this rule makes me think of antiparticles and Hawking radiation. Not only does the failedrep produce two pairs of gliders that annihilate each other, the reaction can be interfered with such that some gliders can escape.
Life is hard. Deal with it.
My favorite oscillator of all time:
`x = 7, y = 5, rule = B3/S2-i3-y4i4b3o\$6bo\$o3b3o\$2o\$bo!`

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### Re: Request a Rule to be "Tamed"

Rather sudden death in that rule:
`x = 12, y = 16, rule = B2i3aeiqr4eq5a/S2ae3cijnr4ciq5a84b3o\$4bo2bo\$4bo2bo\$5b3o\$8b3o\$8bo2bo\$8bo2bo\$9b3o5\$3o\$o2bo\$o2bo\$b3o!`

EDIT:
`x = 18, y = 13, rule = B2i3aeiqr4eq5a/S2ae3cijnr4ciq5a811bo\$10b2o\$9b2o2bo\$10bo2bo\$12b2o\$14b3o\$14bo2bo\$14bo2bo\$15b3o\$b3o6b3o\$o2bo6bo2bo\$o2bo6bo2bo\$3o8b3o!`
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