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Symbiosis

Postby wwei23 » July 23rd, 2017, 4:13 pm

I am the rule's creator:
@RULE Symbiosis

@TABLE

n_states:3
neighborhood:Moore
symmetries:permute
1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
1,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
0,1,1,1,0,0,0,0,0,1
1,1,1,1,1,0,0,0,0,0
1,1,1,1,1,1,0,0,0,0
1,1,1,1,1,1,1,0,0,0
1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,0,0
1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,0
2,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
2,2,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
0,2,2,2,0,0,0,0,0,2
2,2,2,2,2,0,0,0,0,0
2,2,2,2,2,2,0,0,0,0
2,2,2,2,2,2,2,0,0,0
2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,0,0
2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,0

And I found a P19:
x = 9, y = 7, rule = Symbiosis
.A.A.A.A$A7.A2$2.A3.A$.B.A.A.B$2.B.A.B$3.B.B!

8-cell P3 in 2 phrases:
x = 1, y = 8, rule = Symbiosis
B$B$B$B$A$A$A$A!

LWSS deleter:
x = 20, y = 11, rule = Symbiosis
16.B2.B$15.B$15.B3.B$15.4B4$B5.B$7B$7A$A5.A!

P7:
x = 10, y = 4, rule = Symbiosis
B8.B$10B$10A$A8.A!

P7:
x = 12, y = 10, rule = Symbiosis
4.B2.B$4.B2.B2$B10.B$12B$12A$A10.A2$4.A2.A$4.A2.A!

So many LWSSes:
x = 95, y = 43, rule = Symbiosis
33.6B10.6B$33.B5.B9.B5.B$33.B15.B$34.B4.B10.B4.B$24.3B9.2B14.2B$23.5B
$22.2B.3B24.3A$23.2B26.A3.A$51.A3.A$49.2A.3A.2A$48.A.A4.3A26.2A$48.A
6.3A26.2A$.2A45.2A.A3.A22.3A$2A.2A45.2A25.A2.A$.4A72.A3.A6.A$2.2A52.
2A18.2A.A2.A4.A.A$23.2A3.A50.A.2A4.A.A$23.A.A.A.2A2.A34.A10.A3.A4.A$
4.A7.3A9.2A.A.4A.A32.A.A8.A4.A$3.2A9.A9.2A.A6.A18.A13.3A8.2A3.A8.2A$
2.2A.A6.3A9.2A.A.5A19.A3.A8.A.A12.A9.A2.A$3.A.A3.3A16.2A11.A.A.A2.2A
7.2A8.A4.2A18.2A$4.2A33.A3.A.2A.2A5.2A2.A12.A$45.A11.3A11.A.A$39.A3.A
5.2A20.2A$40.A7.4A18.5A$.2A42.A6.A16.A2.2A$2A.2A36.A3.5A.2A16.A2.A$.
4A36.2A.A3.A6.3A15.A$2.2A36.A.A3.A.A6.A2.A14.A5.A.A$39.2A2.A2.2A23.A.
A6.2A$39.3A14.2A13.2A7.A$24.3B13.A$23.5B13.A$22.2B.3B$23.2B3$33.6B$
33.B5.B$33.B$34.B4.B$36.2B!
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Re: Symbiosis

Postby toroidalet » July 24th, 2017, 11:51 am

wwei23 wrote:LWSS deleter:
rephases a p3 with a LWSS

This p5 one doesn't rephase and is edgier:
x = 31, y = 12, rule = Symbiosis
18.B2.B5.A2.A$17.B8.A$17.B3.B4.A3.A$17.4B5.4A5$.A.A2.A.A$A.A.2A.A.A$B
.B.2B.B.B$.B.B2.B.B!

It can turn an opposite-colored ship into a glider. If the ships have the same parity it still work.
x = 62, y = 19, rule = Symbiosis
22.B2.B5.A2.A10.B2.B9.B2.B$21.B8.A13.B12.B$21.B3.B4.A3.A9.B3.B8.B3.B$
21.4B5.4A10.4B9.4B5$5.A.A2.A.A$4.A.A.2A.A.A$4.B.B.2B.B.B$5.B.B2.B.B4$
2B19.B2.B8.A2.A$2B18.B11.A$20.B3.B7.A3.A$20.4B8.4A!

1-sided version:
x = 10, y = 3, rule = Symbiosis
.A.A2.A.A$A.A.2A.A.A$.B2.2B2.B!
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Re: Symbiosis

Postby wwei23 » July 29th, 2017, 8:20 pm

Reviving this thread with patterns posted elsewhere in Symbiosis:
Symbiosis P39:
x = 12, y = 5, rule = Symbiosis
4.AB$2.B.B3.2A$B3A.A.AB.AB$3.A.A.3AB$5.A.A!

Symbiosis P54 predecessor based on the P39:
x = 12, y = 12, rule = Symbiosis
4.AB$2.B.B3.2A$B3A.A.AB.AB$3.A.A.3AB$5.A.A6$7.A$7.B!

Optimizations by toroidalet:
The oscillators can be made smaller:
[code]x = 11, y = 5, rule = Symbiosis
7.B$2.B.B3.A$B3A.A.AB$3.A.A.3AB$5.A.A!
[/code]
[code]x = 11, y = 12, rule = Symbiosis
7.B$2.B.B3.A$B3A.A.AB$3.A.A.3AB$5.A.A6$7.A$7.B!
[/code]
New spaceship:
[code]x = 11, y = 11, rule = Symbiosis
2.A$2A$A2.3A2.A$A4.3A$.3A2.2A2$3.3B2.2B$2.B4.3B$2.B2.3B2.B$2.2B$4.B!
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Re: Symbiosis

Postby wwei23 » August 6th, 2017, 11:47 am

5 cell P3:
x = 1, y = 5, rule = Symbiosis
A$A$A$A$B!

P10 orbit of P19:
x = 7, y = 4, rule = Symbiosis
.A.A.A$B.A.A.B$.B.A.B$2.B.B!

P2 orbit of P19:
x = 7, y = 5, rule = Symbiosis
4.B$.B3.B$A.B.B.A$.A.B.A$2.A.A!

Another one:
x = 7, y = 5, rule = Symbiosis
.2B$.B3.B$A.B.B.A$.A.B.A$2.A.A!

P10 to P19:
x = 7, y = 26, rule = Symbiosis
3.B.B$2.B$2.B$2.B2.B$2.3B18$.B.B.B$A.B.B.A$.A.B.A$2.A.A!

P5 and P6:
x = 23, y = 3, rule = Symbiosis
.3A13.5A$A.A.A11.A2.A2.A$.B.B13.2B.2B!

P18:
x = 9, y = 6, rule = Symbiosis
.B.B.B.B$B7.B2$2.B3.B$.A.3B.A$2.A.A.A!
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Re: Symbiosis

Postby toroidalet » August 9th, 2017, 11:06 am

p77:
x = 68, y = 68, rule = Symbiosis
36.A.B$36.2A.B$38.A.B$38.2A$38.A.B$30.2A5.A.B$30.A7.B8$43.A$41.A.A$
42.2A8$15.2A$14.A.A$16.A2$2.B.B$.B.A.B55.2A$B.A.A.B54.2A$.A3.A$3A.A3$
63.A.3A$62.A3.A$5.2A54.B.A.A.B$5.2A55.B.A.B$63.B.B2$51.A$51.A.A$51.2A
8$24.2A$24.A.A$24.A8$29.B7.A$28.B.A5.2A$27.B.A$28.2A$27.B.A$28.B.2A$
29.B.A!
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Re: Symbiosis

Postby wwei23 » August 9th, 2017, 11:15 am

P7:
x = 6, y = 7, rule = Symbiosis
4.A$.A.B$.4B$AB3.B$3.B.B$4.B$4.A!
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Re: Symbiosis

Postby wwei23 » August 9th, 2017, 11:17 am

Symbiosis unknown (non-trivial) periods:
23
38
41

P19:
x = 9, y = 8, rule = Symbiosis
.A.A.A.A$A7.A2$2.A3.A$.B.A.A.B$2.B3.B$4.A$4.B!

P19:
x = 9, y = 7, rule = Symbiosis
.A.A.A.A$A7.A2$2.A3.A$.B.A.A.B$2.B3.B$5.A!

P9:
x = 8, y = 10, rule = Symbiosis
B2A2.2AB$.A4.A$.A4.A$BA4.AB$.A.2A.A$.A.2A.A$BA4.AB$.A4.A$.A4.A$B2A2.
2AB!

P13:
x = 10, y = 10, rule = Symbiosis
B2A4.2AB$.A6.A$.A6.A$BA.4A.AB$.A.4A.A$.A.4A.A$BA.4A.AB$.A6.A$.A6.A$B
2A4.2AB!

P7:
x = 11, y = 10, rule = Symbiosis
B2A5.2AB$.A7.A$.A7.A$BA7.AB$.A7.A$.A7.A$BA7.AB$.A7.A$.A7.A$B2A5.2AB!

P5:
x = 9, y = 9, rule = Symbiosis
2.B.A.B$.B.A.A.B$B.A3.A.B$.A5.A$A7.A$.A5.A$B.A3.A.B$.B.A.A.B$2.B.A.B!

P3:
x = 7, y = 7, rule = Symbiosis
.B.A.B$B.A.A.B$.A3.A$A5.A$.A3.A$B.A.A.B$.B.A.B!

P17:
x = 19, y = 19, rule = Symbiosis
7.B.A.B$6.B.3A.B$5.B.5A.B$4.B.A5.A.B$3.B.A7.A.B$2.B.A9.A.B$.B.A4.3A4.
A.B$B.A13.A.B$.2A3.A5.A3.2A$3A3.A5.A3.3A$.2A3.A5.A3.2A$B.A13.A.B$.B.A
4.3A4.A.B$2.B.A9.A.B$3.B.A7.A.B$4.B.A5.A.B$5.B.5A.B$6.B.3A.B$7.B.A.B!

P29:
x = 9, y = 14, rule = Symbiosis
2.B.A.B$.B.3A.B$2.A3.A2$A7.A2$3.A.A$3.A.A2$A7.A2$2.A3.A$.B.3A.B$2.B.A
.B!

Another breed of P19:
x = 22, y = 22, rule = Symbiosis
3.B2.B2.B2.B2.B2.B$.20A$.A18.A$BA2.A.A.A.2A.A.A.A2.AB$.A.A2.A8.A2.A.A
$.A18.A$BA.2A12.2A.AB$.A18.A$.A.A14.A.A$BA18.AB$.A.A14.A.A$.A.A14.A.A
$BA18.AB$.A.A14.A.A$.A18.A$BA.2A12.2A.AB$.A18.A$.A.A2.A8.A2.A.A$BA2.A
.A.A.2A.A.A.A2.AB$.A18.A$.20A$3.B2.B2.B2.B2.B2.B!

P21:
x = 22, y = 22, rule = Symbiosis
3.B2.B2.B2.B2.B2.B$.20A$.A4.A.A6.A.A2.A$BA.A7.2A6.2AB$.A9.2A7.A$.2A
16.2A$BA18.AB$.2A16.2A$.A18.A$B2A14.2A.AB$.A15.2A.A$.2A17.A$BA17.2AB$
.2A17.A$.A17.2A$B2A17.AB$.A17.2A$.2A17.A$BA17.2AB$.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A
2.A$.20A$3.B2.B2.B2.B2.B2.B!

P11:
x = 19, y = 19, rule = Symbiosis
7.B.A.B$6.B.ABA.B$5.B.5A.B$4.B.A2.A2.A.B$3.B.3A3.3A.B$2.B.A.A5.A.A.B$
.B.3A7.3A.B$B.A.A9.A.A.B$.2A13.2A$AB2A11.2ABA$.2A13.2A$B.A.A9.A.A.B$.
B.3A7.3A.B$2.B.A.A5.A.A.B$3.B.3A3.3A.B$4.B.A2.A2.A.B$5.B.5A.B$6.B.ABA
.B$7.B.A.B!

P40:
x = 19, y = 19, rule = Symbiosis
7.2BA2B$6.B.3A.B$5.B.A3.A.B$4.B.A5.A.B$3.B.3A3.3A.B$2.B.A9.A.B$.B.2A
9.2A.B$B.A.A9.A.A.B$BA15.AB$2A15.2A$BA15.AB$B.A.A9.A.A.B$.B.2A9.2A.B$
2.B.A9.A.B$3.B.3A3.3A.B$4.B.A5.A.B$5.B.A3.A.B$6.B.3A.B$7.2BA2B!

P210:
x = 27, y = 27, rule = Symbiosis
13.B$11.B.A.B$10.B.A.A.B$9.B.A3.A.B$8.B.A5.A.B$7.B.A7.A.B$6.B.A4.A4.A
.B$5.B.A3.A3.A3.A.B$4.B.A13.A.B$3.B.A3.A7.A3.A.B$2.B.A17.A.B$.B.A3.A
11.A3.A.B$2.A21.A$BA4.A13.A4.AB$2.A21.A$.B.A3.A11.A3.A.B$2.B.A17.A.B$
3.B.A3.A7.A3.A.B$4.B.A13.A.B$5.B.A3.A3.A3.A.B$6.B.A4.A4.A.B$7.B.A7.A.
B$8.B.A5.A.B$9.B.A3.A.B$10.B.A.A.B$11.B.A.B$13.B!

P59:
x = 31, y = 31, rule = Symbiosis
15.B$13.B.A.B$12.B.A.A.B$11.B.A3.A.B$10.B.A5.A.B$9.B.A7.A.B$8.B.A3.A.
A3.A.B$7.B.A5.A5.A.B$6.B.A13.A.B$5.B.A15.A.B$4.B.A8.A8.A.B$3.B.A7.A3.
A7.A.B$2.B.A21.A.B$.B.A7.A7.A7.A.B$2.A3.A17.A3.A$BA5.A2.A9.A2.A5.AB$
2.A3.A17.A3.A$.B.A7.A7.A7.A.B$2.B.A21.A.B$3.B.A7.A3.A7.A.B$4.B.A8.A8.
A.B$5.B.A15.A.B$6.B.A13.A.B$7.B.A5.A5.A.B$8.B.A3.A.A3.A.B$9.B.A7.A.B$
10.B.A5.A.B$11.B.A3.A.B$12.B.A.A.B$13.B.A.B$15.B!
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Re: Symbiosis

Postby Rhombic » August 9th, 2017, 4:46 pm

The rule is much more interesting than I expected.
Here is a p15
x = 6, y = 5, rule = Symbiosis
4A$2A2.B$2.A2.B$3.B.B$3.2B!

And p13 with the same stabilisation
x = 5, y = 6, rule = Symbiosis
.2A$A.A$A2.B$2A2.B$2.B.B$2.2B!


By the way, this looks like a massive Go game with Cellular Automata!!! It's either a ridiculously long lived methuselah or explosive. Collision between two pi:
x = 11, y = 11, rule = Symbiosis
8.3A$8.A$8.3A6$3B$2.B$3B!

Another one of these massive developing/evolving configurations!! Very unique!
x = 15, y = 6, rule = Symbiosis
11.2B$12.2B$13.2B$2A$.2A$2.2A!
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Re: Symbiosis

Postby wwei23 » August 9th, 2017, 6:39 pm

P335:
x = 29, y = 29, rule = Symbiosis
12.B.B.B$11.B.3A.B$10.B.A3.A.B$9.B.A5.A.B$8.B.A7.A.B$7.B.A9.A.B$6.B.A
11.A.B$5.B.A5.A.A5.A.B$4.B.A15.A.B$3.B.A17.A.B$2.B.A19.A.B$.B.A21.A.B
$B.A23.A.B$.A5.A13.A5.A$BA25.AB$.A5.A13.A5.A$B.A23.A.B$.B.A21.A.B$2.B
.A19.A.B$3.B.A17.A.B$4.B.A15.A.B$5.B.A5.A.A5.A.B$6.B.A11.A.B$7.B.A9.A
.B$8.B.A7.A.B$9.B.A5.A.B$10.B.A3.A.B$11.B.3A.B$12.B.B.B!
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Re: Symbiosis

Postby wwei23 » August 9th, 2017, 6:45 pm

Rhombic wrote:And p13 with the same stabilisation
x = 5, y = 6, rule = Symbiosis
.2A$A.A$A2.B$2A2.B$2.B.B$2.2B!



Double P13:
x = 5, y = 6, rule = Symbiosis
.2A$A.A$A2.2B$2A2.B$2.B.B$2.2B!

P66:
x = 11, y = 8, rule = Symbiosis
AB7.BA$B3.A.A3.B2$.A7.A$B.A5.A.B$.B.A3.A.B$2.B.A.A.B$3.B.A.B!

P177:
x = 13, y = 10, rule = Symbiosis
.AB7.BA$AB9.BA$B2.2A3.2A2.B$2.2A5.2A$.A.3A.3A.A$B.A.2A.2A.A.B$.B.3A.
3A.B$2.B.A3.A.B$3.B.A.A.B$4.B.A.B!

P28:
x = 17, y = 13, rule = Symbiosis
4.AB5.BA$3.AB7.BA$2.AB9.BA$.AB11.BA$AB13.BA$6.A.A.A$2.A11.A$.B.A9.A.B
$2.B.A7.A.B$3.B.A5.A.B$4.B.A3.A.B$5.B.3A.B$6.B.B.B!

P24:
x = 17, y = 12, rule = Symbiosis
4.AB5.BA$3.AB7.BA$2.AB9.BA$.AB2.A5.A2.BA$AB6.A6.BA$3.A9.A$2.A2.A5.A2.
A$.B.A3.A.A3.A.B$2.B.A7.A.B$3.B.2A3.2A.B$4.B.5A.B$5.B.B.B.B!

Glider eater:
x = 7, y = 4, rule = Symbiosis
5.B$4.B$4.3B$AB!

P17:
x = 11, y = 10, rule = Symbiosis
3.2A.2A$3.2A.2A$AB7.BA$B9.B2$.A7.A$B.A5.A.B$.B.A3.A.B$2.B.A.A.B$3.B.A
.B!

Non-trivial P34:
x = 11, y = 20, rule = Symbiosis
3.B.A.B$2.B.A.A.B$.B.A3.A.B$B.A5.A.B$.A2.A.A2.A$2.A5.A$B9.B$AB7.BA5$A
B7.BA$B9.B$2.A5.A$.A2.A.A2.A$B.A5.A.B$.B.A3.A.B$2.B.A.A.B$3.B.A.B!
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Re: Symbiosis

Postby SuperSupermario24 » August 11th, 2017, 3:58 pm

Wow, at first glance this rule doesn't look like anything special (just two states of GoL that mutually stabilize each other) but it's actually quite fascinating.
Making random fills (I like using 25%) is quite a good way to find interesting oscillators.

P22:
x = 11, y = 8, rule = Symbiosis
5.B$2.2AB.BA$2.3B2.B$B.B2.2B.BA$AB7.B$5.B4.B$6.5B$5.A.BA!

P20:
x = 6, y = 8, rule = Symbiosis
3.A$2.B$2.B$2A$BA$2.2B$B2.B.B$.A3.A!

P18:
x = 7, y = 5, rule = Symbiosis
5.BA$.B.2B$AB.2B$B3.B$3.A.A!

P11:
x = 11, y = 9, rule = Symbiosis
5.B$4.A.B$4.2A$.B5.B$BA5.A2.B$.A7.A$3.A.A3.A$3.A.A2.A.B$.BA.B2.B!

P45:
x = 12, y = 13, rule = Symbiosis
10.A$2.2B4.B2.B$.AB.A.BA$.B2.2A.B2.2A$3.A2.A3.2A$3.4A4.A$.ABA5.2A$2.A
6.A$BAB.A2.A3.A$A4.A5.B$2A8.A$7.A2.B$6.2B!

And, a new P19:
x = 11, y = 12, rule = Symbiosis
.BAB.2B$2A.B.BA$4.2B.B$3.A.2A$A.3A$AB6.A$B7.A$9.AB$2A2.A.A.B$.B2.A2.B
$.A.B.B$2.B!


There's probably ways to reduce the stators on a lot of these, but I didn't make more than cursory attempts to do so.
bobo2b3o2b2o2bo3bobo$obobobo3bo2bobo3bobo$obobob2o2bo2bobo3bobo$o3bobo3bo2bobobobo$o3bob3o2b2o3bobo2bo!
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Re: Symbiosis

Postby Saka » August 11th, 2017, 7:48 pm

WSS Extender thingy and insanely small glider gun.
x = 43, y = 15, rule = Symbiosis
34.3A$36.A5.A$35.A2$26.A.A$29.A2.2A.B$26.A4.A.2A$30.2A.A$28.2AB.B2A$
3B23.BA3.B2A$B2.B21.B.A3.AB2A$B25.2B$B$.B.B$.A!


P116
x = 12, y = 16, rule = Symbiosis
6.A$5.2B$2.A$3.B2$8.B$.AB4.BA$AB3.B.BA.B$5.2B.2A$5.B2$3.B.B2.2B$BA2.A
3.2B$3.ABA4.A$3.B5.A.B$9.2A!


EDIT: If only we could gind a puffer.
x = 11, y = 78, rule = Symbiosis
BA7.AB3$BA7.AB3$BA7.AB3$BA7.AB3$BA7.AB3$BA7.AB3$BA7.AB3$BA7.AB3$BA7.A
B3$BA7.AB3$BA7.AB3$BA7.AB3$BA7.AB3$BA7.AB3$BA7.AB3$BA7.AB3$BA7.AB3$BA
7.AB3$BA7.AB3$BA7.AB3$BA7.AB3$BA7.AB3$BA7.AB3$BA7.AB3$BA2.3B2.AB$4.B
2.B$4.B$4.B$5.B.B$5.A!
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x = 17, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
b2ob2obo5b2o$11b4obo$2bob3o2bo2b3o$bo3b2o4b2o$o2bo2bob2o3b4o$bob2obo5b
o2b2o$2b2o4bobo2b3o$bo3b5ob2obobo$2bo5bob2o$4bob2o2bobobo!

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Re: Symbiosis

Postby toroidalet » August 11th, 2017, 8:43 pm

Saka wrote:small glider gun.
gun+XWSS extender


smaller:
x = 10, y = 7, rule = Symbiosis
5.3A.B$4.A3.A$4.2A.A$2.2AB.B.B$BA$.A$.B!

Saka wrote:P116
x = 12, y = 16, rule = Symbiosis
6.A$5.2B$2.A$3.B2$8.B$.AB4.BA$AB3.B.BA.B$5.2B.2A$5.B2$3.B.B2.2B$BA2.A
3.2B$3.ABA4.A$3.B5.A.B$9.2A!

Smaller:
x = 11, y = 15, rule = Symbiosis
6.A$5.2B$2.A$3.B2$8.B$.AB3.2BA$AB3.B.B$8.A2$6.B$3.B.2B$BA2.A4.B$3.ABA
4.A$3.B5.AB!

I'm sad nobody cared about the p77 glider loop (just like with the oblique 1d replicator)
Most of the oscillators are billiard tables, so seeing one that's not is pretty rare. (Some billiard tables, like Saka's p116 are interesting)
As a result, no oscillators I post are billiard tables (except the p13, which is interesting)
P21:
x = 4, y = 6, rule = Symbiosis
2.B$.B.A$B.2A$.A.A$.A$B2A!

Cool p9:
x = 7, y = 5, rule = Symbiosis
4.2B$.B2.B.B$3.B.A$B.B.A$2B.A!

This p13 just seems to be a run-of-the-mill billiard table oscillator, but a modification with a higher population has eater properties: (Also showing 3 cool interactions which briefly turn a still-life into an oscillator before blocking the p13 and an infinite extension)
x = 135, y = 39, rule = Symbiosis
2.A7.A7.A7.A7.A7.A7.A7.A7.A7.A7.A7.A7.A7.A$2.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.
B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B$3.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B$3.B7.B7.B
7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B$AB3.BA.AB3.BA.AB3.BA.AB3.BA.AB3.BA.
AB3.BA.AB3.BA.AB3.BA.AB3.BA.AB3.BA.AB3.BA.AB3.BA.AB3.BA.AB3.BA2$.2B.
2B3.2B.2B3.2B.2B3.2B.2B3.2B.2B3.2B.2B3.2B.2B3.2B.2B3.2B.2B3.2B.2B3.2B
.2B3.2B.2B3.2B.2B3.2B.2B$2.B.A5.B.BA4.B.BA4.B.BA4.B.BA4.B.BA4.B.BA4.B
.BA4.B.BA4.B.BA4.B.BA4.B.BA4.B.BA4.B.BA$.A7.A7.A7.A7.A7.A7.A7.A7.A7.A
7.A7.A7.A7.A.B2$19.2B6.2B6.2B6.2B.B4.2B.B4.2B.B3.B.2BA3.B.2B4.2B6.B.
2B5.2B$19.2B6.A6.A.B5.A.B.BA2.A.B.BA2.A.B.BA3.AB6.AB6.A5.A2.A6.AB$77.
A32.2B$42.BA16.BA48.B.B$45.2B.B61.B$44.A.B.BA2$44.BA70.B$47.2B.B64.2B
$46.A.B.BA63.B.B2$46.BA$49.2B.B66.2B$48.A.B.BA65.B.B$119.B$48.BA$51.
2B.B70.2B$50.A.B.BA69.B.B$125.B2$130.2B$130.B.B$130.B4$132.2B$132.B.B
$132.B!
(For you pedants out there, these evolve into p13s, they aren't in this stage to show similarities.)
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Re: Symbiosis

Postby Saka » August 11th, 2017, 10:19 pm

Cool p279
x = 16, y = 14, rule = Symbiosis
8.A$9.B2.2A$7.B.B2.B$6.A2B2.BA$2.B12.B$2.A4.B6.2A$6.B.B$7.B$.A.B3.B$A
.2B$.A7.B4.A$8.B.B2.A.B$6.AB.BAB.B$7.A3.A!
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x = 17, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
b2ob2obo5b2o$11b4obo$2bob3o2bo2b3o$bo3b2o4b2o$o2bo2bob2o3b4o$bob2obo5b
o2b2o$2b2o4bobo2b3o$bo3b5ob2obobo$2bo5bob2o$4bob2o2bobobo!

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Re: Symbiosis

Postby A for awesome » August 12th, 2017, 12:42 am

Nice edge eater:
x = 6, y = 8, rule = Symbiosis
3.A.A$4.2A$4.A2$2.2A$BA2.B$.A$.B!
x₁=ηx
V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη)
K=(Λu²)/2
Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt)

$$x_1=\eta x$$
$$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$
$$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$
$$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$

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Re: Symbiosis

Postby wwei23 » August 12th, 2017, 12:45 am

toroidalet wrote:
Saka wrote:small glider gun.
gun+XWSS extender


smaller:
x = 10, y = 7, rule = Symbiosis
5.3A.B$4.A3.A$4.2A.A$2.2AB.B.B$BA$.A$.B!

Saka wrote:P116
x = 12, y = 16, rule = Symbiosis
6.A$5.2B$2.A$3.B2$8.B$.AB4.BA$AB3.B.BA.B$5.2B.2A$5.B2$3.B.B2.2B$BA2.A
3.2B$3.ABA4.A$3.B5.A.B$9.2A!

Smaller:
x = 11, y = 15, rule = Symbiosis
6.A$5.2B$2.A$3.B2$8.B$.AB3.2BA$AB3.B.B$8.A2$6.B$3.B.2B$BA2.A4.B$3.ABA
4.A$3.B5.AB!

I'm sad nobody cared about the p77 glider loop (just like with the oblique 1d replicator)
Most of the oscillators are billiard tables, so seeing one that's not is pretty rare. (Some billiard tables, like Saka's p116 are interesting)
As a result, no oscillators I post are billiard tables (except the p13, which is interesting)
P21:
x = 4, y = 6, rule = Symbiosis
2.B$.B.A$B.2A$.A.A$.A$B2A!

Cool p9:
x = 7, y = 5, rule = Symbiosis
4.2B$.B2.B.B$3.B.A$B.B.A$2B.A!

This p13 just seems to be a run-of-the-mill billiard table oscillator, but a modification with a higher population has eater properties: (Also showing 3 cool interactions which briefly turn a still-life into an oscillator before blocking the p13 and an infinite extension)
x = 135, y = 39, rule = Symbiosis
2.A7.A7.A7.A7.A7.A7.A7.A7.A7.A7.A7.A7.A7.A$2.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.
B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B$3.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B$3.B7.B7.B
7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B$AB3.BA.AB3.BA.AB3.BA.AB3.BA.AB3.BA.
AB3.BA.AB3.BA.AB3.BA.AB3.BA.AB3.BA.AB3.BA.AB3.BA.AB3.BA.AB3.BA2$.2B.
2B3.2B.2B3.2B.2B3.2B.2B3.2B.2B3.2B.2B3.2B.2B3.2B.2B3.2B.2B3.2B.2B3.2B
.2B3.2B.2B3.2B.2B3.2B.2B$2.B.A5.B.BA4.B.BA4.B.BA4.B.BA4.B.BA4.B.BA4.B
.BA4.B.BA4.B.BA4.B.BA4.B.BA4.B.BA4.B.BA$.A7.A7.A7.A7.A7.A7.A7.A7.A7.A
7.A7.A7.A7.A.B2$19.2B6.2B6.2B6.2B.B4.2B.B4.2B.B3.B.2BA3.B.2B4.2B6.B.
2B5.2B$19.2B6.A6.A.B5.A.B.BA2.A.B.BA2.A.B.BA3.AB6.AB6.A5.A2.A6.AB$77.
A32.2B$42.BA16.BA48.B.B$45.2B.B61.B$44.A.B.BA2$44.BA70.B$47.2B.B64.2B
$46.A.B.BA63.B.B2$46.BA$49.2B.B66.2B$48.A.B.BA65.B.B$119.B$48.BA$51.
2B.B70.2B$50.A.B.BA69.B.B$125.B2$130.2B$130.B.B$130.B4$132.2B$132.B.B
$132.B!
(For you pedants out there, these evolve into p13s, they aren't in this stage to show similarities.)

I think the P77 is cool, especially because it's a glider loop. I was busy looking for P23s... Also, I am quoting the entire post because this is from my iPad, so it's extremely hard to trim...
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Re: Symbiosis

Postby Saka » August 12th, 2017, 12:49 am

wwei23 wrote:
a few people wrote:AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

I think the P77 is cool, especially because it's a glider loop. I was busy looking for P23s... Also, I am quoting the entire post because this is from my iPad, so it's extremely hard to trim...

Still try to trim if you just want to say a few words.
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x = 17, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
b2ob2obo5b2o$11b4obo$2bob3o2bo2b3o$bo3b2o4b2o$o2bo2bob2o3b4o$bob2obo5b
o2b2o$2b2o4bobo2b3o$bo3b5ob2obobo$2bo5bob2o$4bob2o2bobobo!

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Re: Symbiosis

Postby wwei23 » August 12th, 2017, 12:58 am

Saka wrote:
wwei23 wrote:
toroidalet wrote:AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

I think the P77 is cool, especially because it's a glider loop. I was busy looking for P23s... Also, I am quoting the entire post because this is from my iPad, so it's extremely hard to trim...

Still try to trim if you just want to say a few words.

A
BB
CCC
DDDD
EEEEE
FFFFFF
GGGGGGG
HHHHHHHH
IIIIIIIII
JJJJJJJJJJ
KKKKKKKKKKK
LLLLLLLLLLLL
MMMMMMMMMMMMM
NNNNNNNNNNNNNN
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
PPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP
QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ
RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV
WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
EDIT: New 3-cell P2 rotor:
x = 7, y = 6, rule = Symbiosis
.B.B$2.3A$.A3.A$B4.AB$2.B2.A$.A2.B!
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Re: Symbiosis

Postby Saka » August 12th, 2017, 1:15 am

wwei23 wrote:
Saka wrote:Still try to trim if you just want to say a few words.

Big Mess

Oh come on.
Anyway, cool p15 that pulls down a tail
x = 10, y = 9, rule = Symbiosis
6.B$5.2A$2.AB$.B3.B2.BA$A.2B.2B$7.BA$.5B.B$.AB2.AB$3.AB!
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x = 17, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
b2ob2obo5b2o$11b4obo$2bob3o2bo2b3o$bo3b2o4b2o$o2bo2bob2o3b4o$bob2obo5b
o2b2o$2b2o4bobo2b3o$bo3b5ob2obobo$2bo5bob2o$4bob2o2bobobo!

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Re: Symbiosis

Postby wwei23 » August 12th, 2017, 1:40 am

As for the XWSS lengthener, this just might work:
x = 14, y = 7, rule = Symbiosis
2.B8.A$B.B8.A.A$.2B8.2A2$5.B2.A$3.B.B2.A.A$4.2B2.2A!
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Re: Symbiosis

Postby SuperSupermario24 » August 12th, 2017, 2:08 am

Non-trivial P38:
x = 11, y = 9, rule = Symbiosis
.A5.BA$A.A$.A2$8.AB$6.3B$5.2B$2.A3.B2.2A$2.B3.A2.2A!
bobo2b3o2b2o2bo3bobo$obobobo3bo2bobo3bobo$obobob2o2bo2bobo3bobo$o3bobo3bo2bobobobo$o3bob3o2b2o3bobo2bo!
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Re: Symbiosis

Postby wwei23 » August 12th, 2017, 2:16 am

Great! Woo hoo, Symbiosis!
Leftovers:
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Re: Symbiosis

Postby SuperSupermario24 » August 12th, 2017, 4:00 am

P23:
x = 13, y = 10, rule = Symbiosis
8.ABA$4.A3.B2.B$4.2B3.2B.A$3.B2.B.B$.A2.2B$A.A2.B$.A3.A2$8.B$8.A!

Not been having any luck finding a P41, though, and 4 AM is probably not the best time to do this, so I'm going to stop for the night.
bobo2b3o2b2o2bo3bobo$obobobo3bo2bobo3bobo$obobob2o2bo2bobo3bobo$o3bobo3bo2bobobobo$o3bob3o2b2o3bobo2bo!
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Re: Symbiosis

Postby Rhombic » August 12th, 2017, 11:46 am

By the way, this looks like a massive Go game with Cellular Automata!!! It's either a ridiculously long lived methuselah or explosive. Collision between two pi:
x = 11, y = 11, rule = Symbiosis
8.3A$8.A$8.3A6$3B$2.B$3B!

Another one of these massive developing/evolving configurations!! Very unique!
x = 15, y = 6, rule = Symbiosis
11.2B$12.2B$13.2B$2A$.2A$2.2A!

What is the long-term result of these things?
x = 13, y = 12, rule = Symbiosis
2B$.2B$.B7$11.A$10.2A$11.2A!


Breaking the symmetry gives new dispositions:
x = 102, y = 98, rule = Symbiosis
101.A$99.2A$100.2A78$2.B$B3.B43.A$5.B40.A3.A$B4.B39.A$.5B39.A4.A$19.B
25.5A$17.B3.B$22.B$17.B4.B14.5A$18.5B14.A4.A$37.A$38.A3.A$10.5B25.A$
9.B4.B39.5A$14.B39.A4.A$9.B3.B40.A$11.B43.A3.A$57.A!
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Re: Symbiosis

Postby A for awesome » August 12th, 2017, 12:04 pm

P134:
x = 11, y = 6, rule = Symbiosis
2.A5.A$.A.A.A.A.A$2AB.A.A.B2A$.A.B.A.B.A$2A2.B.B2.2A$5.B!
x₁=ηx
V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη)
K=(Λu²)/2
Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt)

$$x_1=\eta x$$
$$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$
$$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$
$$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$

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