## Symbiosis

For discussion of other cellular automata.

### Symbiosis

I am the rule's creator:
@RULE Symbiosis@TABLEn_states:3neighborhood:Mooresymmetries:permute1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,01,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,00,1,1,1,0,0,0,0,0,11,1,1,1,1,0,0,0,0,01,1,1,1,1,1,0,0,0,01,1,1,1,1,1,1,0,0,01,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,0,01,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,02,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,02,2,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,00,2,2,2,0,0,0,0,0,22,2,2,2,2,0,0,0,0,02,2,2,2,2,2,0,0,0,02,2,2,2,2,2,2,0,0,02,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,0,02,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,0

And I found a P19:
x = 9, y = 7, rule = Symbiosis.A.A.A.A$A7.A2$2.A3.A$.B.A.A.B$2.B.A.B$3.B.B! 8-cell P3 in 2 phrases: x = 1, y = 8, rule = SymbiosisB$B$B$B$A$A$A$A!

LWSS deleter:
x = 20, y = 11, rule = Symbiosis16.B2.B$15.B$15.B3.B$15.4B4$B5.B$7B$7A$A5.A! P7: x = 10, y = 4, rule = SymbiosisB8.B$10B$10A$A8.A!

P7:
x = 12, y = 10, rule = Symbiosis4.B2.B$4.B2.B2$B10.B$12B$12A$A10.A2$4.A2.A$4.A2.A! So many LWSSes: x = 95, y = 43, rule = Symbiosis33.6B10.6B$33.B5.B9.B5.B$33.B15.B$34.B4.B10.B4.B$24.3B9.2B14.2B$23.5B$22.2B.3B24.3A$23.2B26.A3.A$51.A3.A$49.2A.3A.2A$48.A.A4.3A26.2A$48.A6.3A26.2A$.2A45.2A.A3.A22.3A$2A.2A45.2A25.A2.A$.4A72.A3.A6.A$2.2A52.2A18.2A.A2.A4.A.A$23.2A3.A50.A.2A4.A.A$23.A.A.A.2A2.A34.A10.A3.A4.A$4.A7.3A9.2A.A.4A.A32.A.A8.A4.A$3.2A9.A9.2A.A6.A18.A13.3A8.2A3.A8.2A$2.2A.A6.3A9.2A.A.5A19.A3.A8.A.A12.A9.A2.A$3.A.A3.3A16.2A11.A.A.A2.2A7.2A8.A4.2A18.2A$4.2A33.A3.A.2A.2A5.2A2.A12.A$45.A11.3A11.A.A$39.A3.A5.2A20.2A$40.A7.4A18.5A$.2A42.A6.A16.A2.2A$2A.2A36.A3.5A.2A16.A2.A$.4A36.2A.A3.A6.3A15.A$2.2A36.A.A3.A.A6.A2.A14.A5.A.A$39.2A2.A2.2A23.A.A6.2A$39.3A14.2A13.2A7.A$24.3B13.A$23.5B13.A$22.2B.3B$23.2B3$33.6B$33.B5.B$33.B$34.B4.B$36.2B! wwei23 Posts: 936 Joined: May 22nd, 2017, 6:14 pm Location: The (Life?) Universe ### Re: Symbiosis wwei23 wrote:LWSS deleter: rephases a p3 with a LWSS This p5 one doesn't rephase and is edgier: x = 31, y = 12, rule = Symbiosis18.B2.B5.A2.A$17.B8.A$17.B3.B4.A3.A$17.4B5.4A5$.A.A2.A.A$A.A.2A.A.A$B.B.2B.B.B$.B.B2.B.B!

It can turn an opposite-colored ship into a glider. If the ships have the same parity it still work.
x = 62, y = 19, rule = Symbiosis22.B2.B5.A2.A10.B2.B9.B2.B$21.B8.A13.B12.B$21.B3.B4.A3.A9.B3.B8.B3.B$21.4B5.4A10.4B9.4B5$5.A.A2.A.A$4.A.A.2A.A.A$4.B.B.2B.B.B$5.B.B2.B.B4$2B19.B2.B8.A2.A$2B18.B11.A$20.B3.B7.A3.A$20.4B8.4A! 1-sided version: x = 10, y = 3, rule = Symbiosis.A.A2.A.A$A.A.2A.A.A$.B2.2B2.B! "Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life." -Terry Pratchett toroidalet Posts: 998 Joined: August 7th, 2016, 1:48 pm Location: my computer ### Re: Symbiosis Reviving this thread with patterns posted elsewhere in Symbiosis: Symbiosis P39: x = 12, y = 5, rule = Symbiosis4.AB$2.B.B3.2A$B3A.A.AB.AB$3.A.A.3AB$5.A.A! Symbiosis P54 predecessor based on the P39: x = 12, y = 12, rule = Symbiosis4.AB$2.B.B3.2A$B3A.A.AB.AB$3.A.A.3AB$5.A.A6$7.A$7.B! Optimizations by toroidalet: The oscillators can be made smaller:[code]x = 11, y = 5, rule = Symbiosis7.B$2.B.B3.A$B3A.A.AB$3.A.A.3AB$5.A.A![/code][code]x = 11, y = 12, rule = Symbiosis7.B$2.B.B3.A$B3A.A.AB$3.A.A.3AB$5.A.A6$7.A$7.B![/code]New spaceship:[code]x = 11, y = 11, rule = Symbiosis2.A$2A$A2.3A2.A$A4.3A$.3A2.2A2$3.3B2.2B$2.B4.3B$2.B2.3B2.B$2.2B$4.B!

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### Re: Symbiosis

5 cell P3:
x = 1, y = 5, rule = SymbiosisA$A$A$A$B!

P10 orbit of P19:
x = 7, y = 4, rule = Symbiosis.A.A.A$B.A.A.B$.B.A.B$2.B.B! P2 orbit of P19: x = 7, y = 5, rule = Symbiosis4.B$.B3.B$A.B.B.A$.A.B.A$2.A.A! Another one: x = 7, y = 5, rule = Symbiosis.2B$.B3.B$A.B.B.A$.A.B.A$2.A.A! P10 to P19: x = 7, y = 26, rule = Symbiosis3.B.B$2.B$2.B$2.B2.B$2.3B18$.B.B.B$A.B.B.A$.A.B.A$2.A.A! P5 and P6: x = 23, y = 3, rule = Symbiosis.3A13.5A$A.A.A11.A2.A2.A$.B.B13.2B.2B! P18: x = 9, y = 6, rule = Symbiosis.B.B.B.B$B7.B2$2.B3.B$.A.3B.A$2.A.A.A! wwei23 Posts: 936 Joined: May 22nd, 2017, 6:14 pm Location: The (Life?) Universe ### Re: Symbiosis p77: x = 68, y = 68, rule = Symbiosis36.A.B$36.2A.B$38.A.B$38.2A$38.A.B$30.2A5.A.B$30.A7.B8$43.A$41.A.A$42.2A8$15.2A$14.A.A$16.A2$2.B.B$.B.A.B55.2A$B.A.A.B54.2A$.A3.A$3A.A3$63.A.3A$62.A3.A$5.2A54.B.A.A.B$5.2A55.B.A.B$63.B.B2$51.A$51.A.A$51.2A8$24.2A$24.A.A$24.A8$29.B7.A$28.B.A5.2A$27.B.A$28.2A$27.B.A$28.B.2A$29.B.A!
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### Re: Symbiosis

P7:
x = 6, y = 7, rule = Symbiosis4.A$.A.B$.4B$AB3.B$3.B.B$4.B$4.A!

wwei23

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### Re: Symbiosis

Symbiosis unknown (non-trivial) periods:
233841

P19:
x = 9, y = 8, rule = Symbiosis.A.A.A.A$A7.A2$2.A3.A$.B.A.A.B$2.B3.B$4.A$4.B!

P19:
x = 9, y = 7, rule = Symbiosis.A.A.A.A$A7.A2$2.A3.A$.B.A.A.B$2.B3.B$5.A! P9: x = 8, y = 10, rule = SymbiosisB2A2.2AB$.A4.A$.A4.A$BA4.AB$.A.2A.A$.A.2A.A$BA4.AB$.A4.A$.A4.A$B2A2.2AB!

P13:
x = 10, y = 10, rule = SymbiosisB2A4.2AB$.A6.A$.A6.A$BA.4A.AB$.A.4A.A$.A.4A.A$BA.4A.AB$.A6.A$.A6.A$B2A4.2AB! P7: x = 11, y = 10, rule = SymbiosisB2A5.2AB$.A7.A$.A7.A$BA7.AB$.A7.A$.A7.A$BA7.AB$.A7.A$.A7.A$B2A5.2AB!

P5:
x = 9, y = 9, rule = Symbiosis2.B.A.B$.B.A.A.B$B.A3.A.B$.A5.A$A7.A$.A5.A$B.A3.A.B$.B.A.A.B$2.B.A.B!

P3:
x = 7, y = 7, rule = Symbiosis.B.A.B$B.A.A.B$.A3.A$A5.A$.A3.A$B.A.A.B$.B.A.B!

P17:
x = 19, y = 19, rule = Symbiosis7.B.A.B$6.B.3A.B$5.B.5A.B$4.B.A5.A.B$3.B.A7.A.B$2.B.A9.A.B$.B.A4.3A4.A.B$B.A13.A.B$.2A3.A5.A3.2A$3A3.A5.A3.3A$.2A3.A5.A3.2A$B.A13.A.B$.B.A4.3A4.A.B$2.B.A9.A.B$3.B.A7.A.B$4.B.A5.A.B$5.B.5A.B$6.B.3A.B$7.B.A.B!

P29:
x = 9, y = 14, rule = Symbiosis2.B.A.B$.B.3A.B$2.A3.A2$A7.A2$3.A.A$3.A.A2$A7.A2$2.A3.A$.B.3A.B$2.B.A.B! Another breed of P19: x = 22, y = 22, rule = Symbiosis3.B2.B2.B2.B2.B2.B$.20A$.A18.A$BA2.A.A.A.2A.A.A.A2.AB$.A.A2.A8.A2.A.A$.A18.A$BA.2A12.2A.AB$.A18.A$.A.A14.A.A$BA18.AB$.A.A14.A.A$.A.A14.A.A$BA18.AB$.A.A14.A.A$.A18.A$BA.2A12.2A.AB$.A18.A$.A.A2.A8.A2.A.A$BA2.A.A.A.2A.A.A.A2.AB$.A18.A$.20A$3.B2.B2.B2.B2.B2.B!

P21:
x = 22, y = 22, rule = Symbiosis3.B2.B2.B2.B2.B2.B$.20A$.A4.A.A6.A.A2.A$BA.A7.2A6.2AB$.A9.2A7.A$.2A16.2A$BA18.AB$.2A16.2A$.A18.A$B2A14.2A.AB$.A15.2A.A$.2A17.A$BA17.2AB$.2A17.A$.A17.2A$B2A17.AB$.A17.2A$.2A17.A$BA17.2AB$.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A2.A$.20A$3.B2.B2.B2.B2.B2.B! P11: x = 19, y = 19, rule = Symbiosis7.B.A.B$6.B.ABA.B$5.B.5A.B$4.B.A2.A2.A.B$3.B.3A3.3A.B$2.B.A.A5.A.A.B$.B.3A7.3A.B$B.A.A9.A.A.B$.2A13.2A$AB2A11.2ABA$.2A13.2A$B.A.A9.A.A.B$.B.3A7.3A.B$2.B.A.A5.A.A.B$3.B.3A3.3A.B$4.B.A2.A2.A.B$5.B.5A.B$6.B.ABA.B$7.B.A.B! P40: x = 19, y = 19, rule = Symbiosis7.2BA2B$6.B.3A.B$5.B.A3.A.B$4.B.A5.A.B$3.B.3A3.3A.B$2.B.A9.A.B$.B.2A9.2A.B$B.A.A9.A.A.B$BA15.AB$2A15.2A$BA15.AB$B.A.A9.A.A.B$.B.2A9.2A.B$2.B.A9.A.B$3.B.3A3.3A.B$4.B.A5.A.B$5.B.A3.A.B$6.B.3A.B$7.2BA2B! P210: x = 27, y = 27, rule = Symbiosis13.B$11.B.A.B$10.B.A.A.B$9.B.A3.A.B$8.B.A5.A.B$7.B.A7.A.B$6.B.A4.A4.A.B$5.B.A3.A3.A3.A.B$4.B.A13.A.B$3.B.A3.A7.A3.A.B$2.B.A17.A.B$.B.A3.A11.A3.A.B$2.A21.A$BA4.A13.A4.AB$2.A21.A$.B.A3.A11.A3.A.B$2.B.A17.A.B$3.B.A3.A7.A3.A.B$4.B.A13.A.B$5.B.A3.A3.A3.A.B$6.B.A4.A4.A.B$7.B.A7.A.B$8.B.A5.A.B$9.B.A3.A.B$10.B.A.A.B$11.B.A.B$13.B! P59: x = 31, y = 31, rule = Symbiosis15.B$13.B.A.B$12.B.A.A.B$11.B.A3.A.B$10.B.A5.A.B$9.B.A7.A.B$8.B.A3.A.A3.A.B$7.B.A5.A5.A.B$6.B.A13.A.B$5.B.A15.A.B$4.B.A8.A8.A.B$3.B.A7.A3.A7.A.B$2.B.A21.A.B$.B.A7.A7.A7.A.B$2.A3.A17.A3.A$BA5.A2.A9.A2.A5.AB$2.A3.A17.A3.A$.B.A7.A7.A7.A.B$2.B.A21.A.B$3.B.A7.A3.A7.A.B$4.B.A8.A8.A.B$5.B.A15.A.B$6.B.A13.A.B$7.B.A5.A5.A.B$8.B.A3.A.A3.A.B$9.B.A7.A.B$10.B.A5.A.B$11.B.A3.A.B$12.B.A.A.B$13.B.A.B$15.B! Last edited by wwei23 on August 9th, 2017, 7:49 pm, edited 2 times in total. wwei23 Posts: 936 Joined: May 22nd, 2017, 6:14 pm Location: The (Life?) Universe ### Re: Symbiosis The rule is much more interesting than I expected. Here is a p15 x = 6, y = 5, rule = Symbiosis4A$2A2.B$2.A2.B$3.B.B$3.2B! And p13 with the same stabilisation x = 5, y = 6, rule = Symbiosis.2A$A.A$A2.B$2A2.B$2.B.B$2.2B!

By the way, this looks like a massive Go game with Cellular Automata!!! It's either a ridiculously long lived methuselah or explosive. Collision between two pi:
x = 11, y = 11, rule = Symbiosis8.3A$8.A$8.3A6$3B$2.B$3B! Another one of these massive developing/evolving configurations!! Very unique! x = 15, y = 6, rule = Symbiosis11.2B$12.2B$13.2B$2A$.2A$2.2A!
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### Re: Symbiosis

P335:
x = 29, y = 29, rule = Symbiosis12.B.B.B$11.B.3A.B$10.B.A3.A.B$9.B.A5.A.B$8.B.A7.A.B$7.B.A9.A.B$6.B.A11.A.B$5.B.A5.A.A5.A.B$4.B.A15.A.B$3.B.A17.A.B$2.B.A19.A.B$.B.A21.A.B$B.A23.A.B$.A5.A13.A5.A$BA25.AB$.A5.A13.A5.A$B.A23.A.B$.B.A21.A.B$2.B.A19.A.B$3.B.A17.A.B$4.B.A15.A.B$5.B.A5.A.A5.A.B$6.B.A11.A.B$7.B.A9.A.B$8.B.A7.A.B$9.B.A5.A.B$10.B.A3.A.B$11.B.3A.B$12.B.B.B!

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### Re: Symbiosis

Rhombic wrote:And p13 with the same stabilisation
x = 5, y = 6, rule = Symbiosis.2A$A.A$A2.B$2A2.B$2.B.B$2.2B! Double P13: x = 5, y = 6, rule = Symbiosis.2A$A.A$A2.2B$2A2.B$2.B.B$2.2B!

P66:
x = 11, y = 8, rule = SymbiosisAB7.BA$B3.A.A3.B2$.A7.A$B.A5.A.B$.B.A3.A.B$2.B.A.A.B$3.B.A.B!

P177:
x = 13, y = 10, rule = Symbiosis.AB7.BA$AB9.BA$B2.2A3.2A2.B$2.2A5.2A$.A.3A.3A.A$B.A.2A.2A.A.B$.B.3A.3A.B$2.B.A3.A.B$3.B.A.A.B$4.B.A.B! P28: x = 17, y = 13, rule = Symbiosis4.AB5.BA$3.AB7.BA$2.AB9.BA$.AB11.BA$AB13.BA$6.A.A.A$2.A11.A$.B.A9.A.B$2.B.A7.A.B$3.B.A5.A.B$4.B.A3.A.B$5.B.3A.B$6.B.B.B! P24: x = 17, y = 12, rule = Symbiosis4.AB5.BA$3.AB7.BA$2.AB9.BA$.AB2.A5.A2.BA$AB6.A6.BA$3.A9.A$2.A2.A5.A2.A$.B.A3.A.A3.A.B$2.B.A7.A.B$3.B.2A3.2A.B$4.B.5A.B$5.B.B.B.B!

Glider eater:
x = 7, y = 4, rule = Symbiosis5.B$4.B$4.3B$AB! P17: x = 11, y = 10, rule = Symbiosis3.2A.2A$3.2A.2A$AB7.BA$B9.B2$.A7.A$B.A5.A.B$.B.A3.A.B$2.B.A.A.B$3.B.A.B! Non-trivial P34: x = 11, y = 20, rule = Symbiosis3.B.A.B$2.B.A.A.B$.B.A3.A.B$B.A5.A.B$.A2.A.A2.A$2.A5.A$B9.B$AB7.BA5$AB7.BA$B9.B$2.A5.A$.A2.A.A2.A$B.A5.A.B$.B.A3.A.B$2.B.A.A.B$3.B.A.B!

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### Re: Symbiosis

Wow, at first glance this rule doesn't look like anything special (just two states of GoL that mutually stabilize each other) but it's actually quite fascinating.
Making random fills (I like using 25%) is quite a good way to find interesting oscillators.

P22:
x = 11, y = 8, rule = Symbiosis5.B$2.2AB.BA$2.3B2.B$B.B2.2B.BA$AB7.B$5.B4.B$6.5B$5.A.BA! P20: x = 6, y = 8, rule = Symbiosis3.A$2.B$2.B$2A$BA$2.2B$B2.B.B$.A3.A!

P18:
x = 7, y = 5, rule = Symbiosis5.BA$.B.2B$AB.2B$B3.B$3.A.A!

P11:
x = 11, y = 9, rule = Symbiosis5.B$4.A.B$4.2A$.B5.B$BA5.A2.B$.A7.A$3.A.A3.A$3.A.A2.A.B$.BA.B2.B!

P45:
x = 12, y = 13, rule = Symbiosis10.A$2.2B4.B2.B$.AB.A.BA$.B2.2A.B2.2A$3.A2.A3.2A$3.4A4.A$.ABA5.2A$2.A6.A$BAB.A2.A3.A$A4.A5.B$2A8.A$7.A2.B$6.2B!

And, a new P19:
x = 11, y = 12, rule = Symbiosis.BAB.2B$2A.B.BA$4.2B.B$3.A.2A$A.3A$AB6.A$B7.A$9.AB$2A2.A.A.B$.B2.A2.B$.A.B.B$2.B! There's probably ways to reduce the stators on a lot of these, but I didn't make more than cursory attempts to do so. bobo2b3o2b2o2bo3bobo$obobobo3bo2bobo3bobo$obobob2o2bo2bobo3bobo$o3bobo3bo2bobobobo$o3bob3o2b2o3bobo2bo! SuperSupermario24 Posts: 120 Joined: July 22nd, 2014, 12:59 pm Location: Within the infinite expanses of the Life universe ### Re: Symbiosis WSS Extender thingy and insanely small glider gun. x = 43, y = 15, rule = Symbiosis34.3A$36.A5.A$35.A2$26.A.A$29.A2.2A.B$26.A4.A.2A$30.2A.A$28.2AB.B2A$3B23.BA3.B2A$B2.B21.B.A3.AB2A$B25.2B$B$.B.B$.A!

P116
x = 12, y = 16, rule = Symbiosis6.A$5.2B$2.A$3.B2$8.B$.AB4.BA$AB3.B.BA.B$5.2B.2A$5.B2$3.B.B2.2B$BA2.A3.2B$3.ABA4.A$3.B5.A.B$9.2A! EDIT: If only we could gind a puffer. x = 11, y = 78, rule = SymbiosisBA7.AB3$BA7.AB3$BA7.AB3$BA7.AB3$BA7.AB3$BA7.AB3$BA7.AB3$BA7.AB3$BA7.AB3$BA7.AB3$BA7.AB3$BA7.AB3$BA7.AB3$BA7.AB3$BA7.AB3$BA7.AB3$BA7.AB3$BA7.AB3$BA7.AB3$BA7.AB3$BA7.AB3$BA7.AB3$BA7.AB3$BA7.AB3$BA2.3B2.AB$4.B2.B$4.B$4.B$5.B.B$5.A!
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x = 17, y = 10, rule = B3/S23b2ob2obo5b2o$11b4obo$2bob3o2bo2b3o$bo3b2o4b2o$o2bo2bob2o3b4o$bob2obo5bo2b2o$2b2o4bobo2b3o$bo3b5ob2obobo$2bo5bob2o$4bob2o2bobobo! (Check gen 2) Saka Posts: 3077 Joined: June 19th, 2015, 8:50 pm Location: In the kingdom of Sultan Hamengkubuwono X ### Re: Symbiosis Saka wrote:small glider gun. gun+XWSS extender smaller: x = 10, y = 7, rule = Symbiosis5.3A.B$4.A3.A$4.2A.A$2.2AB.B.B$BA$.A$.B! Saka wrote:P116 x = 12, y = 16, rule = Symbiosis6.A$5.2B$2.A$3.B2$8.B$.AB4.BA$AB3.B.BA.B$5.2B.2A$5.B2$3.B.B2.2B$BA2.A3.2B$3.ABA4.A$3.B5.A.B$9.2A!

Smaller:
x = 11, y = 15, rule = Symbiosis6.A$5.2B$2.A$3.B2$8.B$.AB3.2BA$AB3.B.B$8.A2$6.B$3.B.2B$BA2.A4.B$3.ABA4.A$3.B5.AB!

I'm sad nobody cared about the p77 glider loop (just like with the oblique 1d replicator)
Most of the oscillators are billiard tables, so seeing one that's not is pretty rare. (Some billiard tables, like Saka's p116 are interesting)
As a result, no oscillators I post are billiard tables (except the p13, which is interesting)
P21:
x = 4, y = 6, rule = Symbiosis2.B$.B.A$B.2A$.A.A$.A$B2A! Cool p9: x = 7, y = 5, rule = Symbiosis4.2B$.B2.B.B$3.B.A$B.B.A$2B.A! This p13 just seems to be a run-of-the-mill billiard table oscillator, but a modification with a higher population has eater properties: (Also showing 3 cool interactions which briefly turn a still-life into an oscillator before blocking the p13 and an infinite extension) x = 135, y = 39, rule = Symbiosis2.A7.A7.A7.A7.A7.A7.A7.A7.A7.A7.A7.A7.A7.A$2.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B$3.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B$3.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B$AB3.BA.AB3.BA.AB3.BA.AB3.BA.AB3.BA.AB3.BA.AB3.BA.AB3.BA.AB3.BA.AB3.BA.AB3.BA.AB3.BA.AB3.BA.AB3.BA2$.2B.2B3.2B.2B3.2B.2B3.2B.2B3.2B.2B3.2B.2B3.2B.2B3.2B.2B3.2B.2B3.2B.2B3.2B.2B3.2B.2B3.2B.2B3.2B.2B$2.B.A5.B.BA4.B.BA4.B.BA4.B.BA4.B.BA4.B.BA4.B.BA4.B.BA4.B.BA4.B.BA4.B.BA4.B.BA4.B.BA$.A7.A7.A7.A7.A7.A7.A7.A7.A7.A7.A7.A7.A7.A.B2$19.2B6.2B6.2B6.2B.B4.2B.B4.2B.B3.B.2BA3.B.2B4.2B6.B.2B5.2B$19.2B6.A6.A.B5.A.B.BA2.A.B.BA2.A.B.BA3.AB6.AB6.A5.A2.A6.AB$77.A32.2B$42.BA16.BA48.B.B$45.2B.B61.B$44.A.B.BA2$44.BA70.B$47.2B.B64.2B$46.A.B.BA63.B.B2$46.BA$49.2B.B66.2B$48.A.B.BA65.B.B$119.B$48.BA$51.2B.B70.2B$50.A.B.BA69.B.B$125.B2$130.2B$130.B.B$130.B4$132.2B$132.B.B$132.B! (For you pedants out there, these evolve into p13s, they aren't in this stage to show similarities.) "Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life." -Terry Pratchett toroidalet Posts: 998 Joined: August 7th, 2016, 1:48 pm Location: my computer ### Re: Symbiosis Cool p279 x = 16, y = 14, rule = Symbiosis8.A$9.B2.2A$7.B.B2.B$6.A2B2.BA$2.B12.B$2.A4.B6.2A$6.B.B$7.B$.A.B3.B$A.2B$.A7.B4.A$8.B.B2.A.B$6.AB.BAB.B$7.A3.A!
If you're the person that uploaded to Sakagolue illegally, please PM me.
x = 17, y = 10, rule = B3/S23b2ob2obo5b2o$11b4obo$2bob3o2bo2b3o$bo3b2o4b2o$o2bo2bob2o3b4o$bob2obo5bo2b2o$2b2o4bobo2b3o$bo3b5ob2obobo$2bo5bob2o$4bob2o2bobobo! (Check gen 2) Saka Posts: 3077 Joined: June 19th, 2015, 8:50 pm Location: In the kingdom of Sultan Hamengkubuwono X ### Re: Symbiosis Nice edge eater: x = 6, y = 8, rule = Symbiosis3.A.A$4.2A$4.A2$2.2A$BA2.B$.A$.B! x₁=ηx V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη) K=(Λu²)/2 Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt) $$x_1=\eta x$$ $$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$ $$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$ $$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$ http://conwaylife.com/wiki/A_for_all Aidan F. Pierce A for awesome Posts: 1862 Joined: September 13th, 2014, 5:36 pm Location: 0x-1 ### Re: Symbiosis toroidalet wrote: Saka wrote:small glider gun. gun+XWSS extender smaller: x = 10, y = 7, rule = Symbiosis5.3A.B$4.A3.A$4.2A.A$2.2AB.B.B$BA$.A$.B! Saka wrote:P116 x = 12, y = 16, rule = Symbiosis6.A$5.2B$2.A$3.B2$8.B$.AB4.BA$AB3.B.BA.B$5.2B.2A$5.B2$3.B.B2.2B$BA2.A3.2B$3.ABA4.A$3.B5.A.B$9.2A!

Smaller:
x = 11, y = 15, rule = Symbiosis6.A$5.2B$2.A$3.B2$8.B$.AB3.2BA$AB3.B.B$8.A2$6.B$3.B.2B$BA2.A4.B$3.ABA4.A$3.B5.AB!

I'm sad nobody cared about the p77 glider loop (just like with the oblique 1d replicator)
Most of the oscillators are billiard tables, so seeing one that's not is pretty rare. (Some billiard tables, like Saka's p116 are interesting)
As a result, no oscillators I post are billiard tables (except the p13, which is interesting)
P21:
x = 4, y = 6, rule = Symbiosis2.B$.B.A$B.2A$.A.A$.A$B2A! Cool p9: x = 7, y = 5, rule = Symbiosis4.2B$.B2.B.B$3.B.A$B.B.A$2B.A! This p13 just seems to be a run-of-the-mill billiard table oscillator, but a modification with a higher population has eater properties: (Also showing 3 cool interactions which briefly turn a still-life into an oscillator before blocking the p13 and an infinite extension) x = 135, y = 39, rule = Symbiosis2.A7.A7.A7.A7.A7.A7.A7.A7.A7.A7.A7.A7.A7.A$2.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B$3.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B$3.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B7.B$AB3.BA.AB3.BA.AB3.BA.AB3.BA.AB3.BA.AB3.BA.AB3.BA.AB3.BA.AB3.BA.AB3.BA.AB3.BA.AB3.BA.AB3.BA.AB3.BA2$.2B.2B3.2B.2B3.2B.2B3.2B.2B3.2B.2B3.2B.2B3.2B.2B3.2B.2B3.2B.2B3.2B.2B3.2B.2B3.2B.2B3.2B.2B3.2B.2B$2.B.A5.B.BA4.B.BA4.B.BA4.B.BA4.B.BA4.B.BA4.B.BA4.B.BA4.B.BA4.B.BA4.B.BA4.B.BA4.B.BA$.A7.A7.A7.A7.A7.A7.A7.A7.A7.A7.A7.A7.A7.A.B2$19.2B6.2B6.2B6.2B.B4.2B.B4.2B.B3.B.2BA3.B.2B4.2B6.B.2B5.2B$19.2B6.A6.A.B5.A.B.BA2.A.B.BA2.A.B.BA3.AB6.AB6.A5.A2.A6.AB$77.A32.2B$42.BA16.BA48.B.B$45.2B.B61.B$44.A.B.BA2$44.BA70.B$47.2B.B64.2B$46.A.B.BA63.B.B2$46.BA$49.2B.B66.2B$48.A.B.BA65.B.B$119.B$48.BA$51.2B.B70.2B$50.A.B.BA69.B.B$125.B2$130.2B$130.B.B$130.B4$132.2B$132.B.B$132.B! (For you pedants out there, these evolve into p13s, they aren't in this stage to show similarities.) I think the P77 is cool, especially because it's a glider loop. I was busy looking for P23s... Also, I am quoting the entire post because this is from my iPad, so it's extremely hard to trim... wwei23 Posts: 936 Joined: May 22nd, 2017, 6:14 pm Location: The (Life?) Universe ### Re: Symbiosis wwei23 wrote: a few people wrote:AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I think the P77 is cool, especially because it's a glider loop. I was busy looking for P23s... Also, I am quoting the entire post because this is from my iPad, so it's extremely hard to trim... Still try to trim if you just want to say a few words. If you're the person that uploaded to Sakagolue illegally, please PM me. x = 17, y = 10, rule = B3/S23b2ob2obo5b2o$11b4obo$2bob3o2bo2b3o$bo3b2o4b2o$o2bo2bob2o3b4o$bob2obo5bo2b2o$2b2o4bobo2b3o$bo3b5ob2obobo$2bo5bob2o$4bob2o2bobobo!

(Check gen 2)

Saka

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### Re: Symbiosis

Saka wrote:
wwei23 wrote:
toroidalet wrote:AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

I think the P77 is cool, especially because it's a glider loop. I was busy looking for P23s... Also, I am quoting the entire post because this is from my iPad, so it's extremely hard to trim...

Still try to trim if you just want to say a few words.

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EDIT: New 3-cell P2 rotor:
x = 7, y = 6, rule = Symbiosis.B.B$2.3A$.A3.A$B4.AB$2.B2.A$.A2.B! Last edited by wwei23 on August 12th, 2017, 1:27 am, edited 1 time in total. wwei23 Posts: 936 Joined: May 22nd, 2017, 6:14 pm Location: The (Life?) Universe ### Re: Symbiosis wwei23 wrote: Saka wrote:Still try to trim if you just want to say a few words. Big Mess Oh come on. Anyway, cool p15 that pulls down a tail x = 10, y = 9, rule = Symbiosis6.B$5.2A$2.AB$.B3.B2.BA$A.2B.2B$7.BA$.5B.B$.AB2.AB$3.AB! If you're the person that uploaded to Sakagolue illegally, please PM me. x = 17, y = 10, rule = B3/S23b2ob2obo5b2o$11b4obo$2bob3o2bo2b3o$bo3b2o4b2o$o2bo2bob2o3b4o$bob2obo5bo2b2o$2b2o4bobo2b3o$bo3b5ob2obobo$2bo5bob2o$4bob2o2bobobo!

(Check gen 2)

Saka

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### Re: Symbiosis

As for the XWSS lengthener, this just might work:
x = 14, y = 7, rule = Symbiosis2.B8.A$B.B8.A.A$.2B8.2A2$5.B2.A$3.B.B2.A.A$4.2B2.2A! wwei23 Posts: 936 Joined: May 22nd, 2017, 6:14 pm Location: The (Life?) Universe ### Re: Symbiosis Non-trivial P38: x = 11, y = 9, rule = Symbiosis.A5.BA$A.A$.A2$8.AB$6.3B$5.2B$2.A3.B2.2A$2.B3.A2.2A!
bobo2b3o2b2o2bo3bobo$obobobo3bo2bobo3bobo$obobob2o2bo2bobo3bobo$o3bobo3bo2bobobobo$o3bob3o2b2o3bobo2bo!

SuperSupermario24

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### Re: Symbiosis

Great! Woo hoo, Symbiosis!
Leftovers:
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wwei23

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### Re: Symbiosis

P23:
x = 13, y = 10, rule = Symbiosis8.ABA$4.A3.B2.B$4.2B3.2B.A$3.B2.B.B$.A2.2B$A.A2.B$.A3.A2$8.B$8.A!

Not been having any luck finding a P41, though, and 4 AM is probably not the best time to do this, so I'm going to stop for the night.
bobo2b3o2b2o2bo3bobo$obobobo3bo2bobo3bobo$obobob2o2bo2bobo3bobo$o3bobo3bo2bobobobo$o3bob3o2b2o3bobo2bo!

SuperSupermario24

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### Re: Symbiosis

By the way, this looks like a massive Go game with Cellular Automata!!! It's either a ridiculously long lived methuselah or explosive. Collision between two pi:
x = 11, y = 11, rule = Symbiosis8.3A$8.A$8.3A6$3B$2.B$3B! Another one of these massive developing/evolving configurations!! Very unique! x = 15, y = 6, rule = Symbiosis11.2B$12.2B$13.2B$2A$.2A$2.2A!

What is the long-term result of these things?
x = 13, y = 12, rule = Symbiosis2B$.2B$.B7$11.A$10.2A$11.2A! Breaking the symmetry gives new dispositions: x = 102, y = 98, rule = Symbiosis101.A$99.2A$100.2A78$2.B$B3.B43.A$5.B40.A3.A$B4.B39.A$.5B39.A4.A$19.B25.5A$17.B3.B$22.B$17.B4.B14.5A$18.5B14.A4.A$37.A$38.A3.A$10.5B25.A$9.B4.B39.5A$14.B39.A4.A$9.B3.B40.A$11.B43.A3.A$57.A! Last edited by Rhombic on August 12th, 2017, 1:57 pm, edited 2 times in total. SoL : FreeElectronics : DeadlyEnemies : 6a-ite : Rule X3VI what is “sesame oil”? Rhombic Posts: 1056 Joined: June 1st, 2013, 5:41 pm ### Re: Symbiosis P134: x = 11, y = 6, rule = Symbiosis2.A5.A$.A.A.A.A.A$2AB.A.A.B2A$.A.B.A.B.A$2A2.B.B2.2A$5.B!
x₁=ηx
V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη)
K=(Λu²)/2
Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt)

$$x_1=\eta x$$
$$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$
$$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$
$$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$

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