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Re: Spaceships made up of other spaceships (SMOS)

Postby toroidalet » September 18th, 2017, 10:41 am

Me too!
rule-specific :( 4c/93:
x = 3, y = 11, rule = B3-ckry4-enqyz5eqr6-c/S1c2aek3jnqr4jq5i6ain7e
2bo$obo$b2o6$b2o$obo$2bo!

3c/45 diagonal ship:
x = 7, y = 7, rule = B2cik3aeiy4ejnqwy5enry6ekn7e/S02ace3-aei4iry5acenq6aik7e
3bob2o3$o2$o$o!
x = 11, y = 5, rule = B2ck3-ij5n78/S01e2ei3-k5ai
8b2o$2o3b2o$bo4bo3bo$2bo2b2o$o7bo!

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Re: Spaceships made up of other spaceships (SMOS)

Postby Rhombic » September 18th, 2017, 7:40 pm

Natural SMOS!!!
But best thing... I started apgsearching before knowing of its existence!!!
x = 20, y = 20, rule = B3/S2-in3-eky4r
2o$o2b2o$2o3bo$bo$2b3o10$17bo$15bo2bo$15bo2bo$15bo$16b2obo$17b3o!
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Re: Spaceships made up of other spaceships (SMOS)

Postby Saka » September 20th, 2017, 6:07 am

c/22d t-ship
x = 7, y = 7, rule = B2n34-acty5-aenq6-ek7e8/S2ac3-cjn4inr5acej6aei8
o$2o$o3$5bo$4b3o!

c/18d
x = 7, y = 7, rule = B3-ck4cijnqwy5anq6-an7e8/S2-in3aceiy4ry5a7
o$2o$o3$5bo$4b3o!


4c/74o
x = 3, y = 10, rule = B2k3-ceky4ajknz5i6in8/S02ace3cjnr4ijr5ceiny6eik
2bo$obo$b2o5$b2o$obo$2bo!

3c/23 (A life-speed ship made of life gliders)
x = 3, y = 10, rule = B2i3-cqr4aejkz5-aein6-a7c8/S2ace3jnr4n5r6e7e
2bo$obo$b2o5$b2o$obo$2bo!


High-priority ships to be SMOShed:
-LWSS
-Moon
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x = 17, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
b2ob2obo5b2o$11b4obo$2bob3o2bo2b3o$bo3b2o4b2o$o2bo2bob2o3b4o$bob2obo5b
o2b2o$2b2o4bobo2b3o$bo3b5ob2obobo$2bo5bob2o$4bob2o2bobobo!

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Re: Spaceships made up of other spaceships (SMOS)

Postby Saka » September 20th, 2017, 11:32 pm

3c/16o
x = 3, y = 10, rule = B2ikn3-ey4aekntwz5aceq6-e7c/S02aen3ijnqr4jt6k
bo$2bo$3o5$3o$2bo$bo!

4c/17o
x = 3, y = 10, rule = B2i3aeijn4ant5eq6aei7c/S02-ci3ijnqr4q5cejq8
bo$2bo$3o5$3o$2bo$bo!

2c/48
x = 3, y = 11, rule = B2i3aijn4q/S2ae3-ky4aiqrwyz5ery6-ci7
bo$2bo$3o6$3o$2bo$bo!

7c/96o
x = 3, y = 11, rule = B2ik3-cer4-eqrw5ey6cik7/S2aei3eijnr4ace5cn6ci
bo$2bo$3o6$3o$2bo$bo!

6c/25o
x = 3, y = 11, rule = B2i3aijny4jkq5cy6cen7e/S2ae3-cy4anqwz5ceijr6-cn7
bo$2bo$3o6$3o$2bo$bo!

3c/39o
x = 3, y = 11, rule = B2in3-cekr4iknwz5ajkry6i8/S02-ci3-ae4wz5acjkq6i
bo$2bo$3o6$3o$2bo$bo!
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x = 17, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
b2ob2obo5b2o$11b4obo$2bob3o2bo2b3o$bo3b2o4b2o$o2bo2bob2o3b4o$bob2obo5b
o2b2o$2b2o4bobo2b3o$bo3b5ob2obobo$2bo5bob2o$4bob2o2bobobo!

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Re: Spaceships made up of other spaceships (SMOS)

Postby 83bismuth38 » September 21st, 2017, 6:49 pm

i got no rule about this, but it seems cool. I'm gonna search for rules like this.
snudder thing: what about a SMOS made of a SMOS?
x = 8, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
3b2o$3b2o$2b3o$4bobo$2obobobo$3bo2bo$2bobo2bo$2bo4bo$2bo4bo$2bo!

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Re: Spaceships made up of other spaceships (SMOS)

Postby Saka » September 21st, 2017, 7:17 pm

83bismuth38 wrote:i got no rule about this, but it seems cool. I'm gonna search for rules like this.
snudder thing: what about a SMOS made of a SMOS?

1. Use Rhombic's RuleSrc and make the following formation as a start:
x = 3, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
bo$2bo$3o5$3o$2bo$bo!

Set the generations to keep to 4. Now, wait, ships usually come from 60K to over 100K rules tested.

2. For a SMOS made of a SMOS, we would need a "very natural" SMOS that is versatile.
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x = 17, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
b2ob2obo5b2o$11b4obo$2bob3o2bo2b3o$bo3b2o4b2o$o2bo2bob2o3b4o$bob2obo5b
o2b2o$2b2o4bobo2b3o$bo3b5ob2obobo$2bo5bob2o$4bob2o2bobobo!

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Re: Spaceships made up of other spaceships (SMOS)

Postby Saka » September 22nd, 2017, 3:38 am

I GOT THIS IN LESS THAN 1 MINUTE
8c/127o
x = 3, y = 16, rule = B3aijnr4w5cey6ei7c8/S2-ci3-iy4aciry5-cry6-cn
bo$2bo$3o11$3o$2bo$bo!

6c/57o
x = 3, y = 16, rule = B2ik3-cey4aiw5ei6in7e/S2ae3ijnqr4cer5n6aci
bo$2bo$3o11$3o$2bo$bo!


Extreme 7c/312o
x = 3, y = 16, rule = B3aijn5e8/S2-i3ijnqr4-aijk5aceqr6-e7c8
bo$2bo$3o11$3o$2bo$bo!


19c/233o
x = 3, y = 26, rule = B2n3aijnr4ijkn5r6kn7e8/S2-in3ajnr4aceirwy5ci
bo$2bo$3o21$3o$2bo$bo!


2c/69d
x = 10, y = 10, rule = B2n34-airy5cinqy6-in78/S2ac3-jq4ceiknry5ekry6ein7
o$2o$o6$8bo$7b3o!

2c/163d
x = 10, y = 10, rule = B2i3-n4cjknrwz5-aekn6ck8/S2-in3-ckqr4ckny5c7
o$2o$o6$8bo$7b3o!

5c/68d
x = 10, y = 10, rule = B3-cknq4eir5ij6in/S2ack3-cnr4-acjkt5-aijy6akn7c8
o$2o$o6$8bo$7b3o!


5c/59d
x = 12, y = 12, rule = B2ek3inr4anz5ekr6ek/S1c2-in3n6k
2o$bo$2o8$9b3o$9bobo!
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x = 17, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
b2ob2obo5b2o$11b4obo$2bob3o2bo2b3o$bo3b2o4b2o$o2bo2bob2o3b4o$bob2obo5b
o2b2o$2b2o4bobo2b3o$bo3b5ob2obobo$2bo5bob2o$4bob2o2bobobo!

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Re: Spaceships made up of other spaceships (SMOS)

Postby Saka » September 22nd, 2017, 11:41 pm

New day
9c/427d
x = 12, y = 12, rule = B2ein3aceir4-ijnw5acen6-c8/S2-n3jnr4enr5kq6c
2o$bo$2o8$9b3o$9bobo!
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x = 17, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
b2ob2obo5b2o$11b4obo$2bob3o2bo2b3o$bo3b2o4b2o$o2bo2bob2o3b4o$bob2obo5b
o2b2o$2b2o4bobo2b3o$bo3b5ob2obobo$2bo5bob2o$4bob2o2bobobo!

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Re: Spaceships made up of other spaceships (SMOS)

Postby Goldtiger997 » September 23rd, 2017, 12:08 am

Started finding ones myself after working how to use Rhombic's latest version of rulesrc.

7c/109:
x = 3, y = 11, rule = B2kn3aeijn4j5ik6eik/S02aen3-aeky4aceiny5-i6ack8
bo$2bo$3o6$3o$2bo$bo!


Mostly, I looked for diagonal glider SMOSs because they don't seem to have been searched for much

8c/216d:
x = 11, y = 11, rule = B2ikn3-eqr4-anrtz5qy7c8/S2-kn3jknry4enryz5ny6aek
2bo$obo$b2o6$8b3o$8bo$9bo!


4c/31d:
x = 8, y = 8, rule = B2k3aijny4acintwz5acq/S2ace3ijknr4-jknw5-jry6kn7e
bo$2bo$3o3$5b2o$5bobo$5bo!


c/62d:
x = 8, y = 8, rule = B2k3-ceq4aejt5ijq6-ak/S02-ck3jknry4aceijrt5-eiq6aik78
bo$2bo$3o3$5b2o$5bobo$5bo!


4c/49d:
x = 9, y = 9, rule = B2k3-ckqr4aeitw5cjkr6ce7/S02aen3-ay4acitw5-acr6-n7e
obo$b2o$bo4$7b2o$6b2o$8bo!


c/14d:
x = 7, y = 7, rule = B2k3aijn4-ijnr5-in6ace/S2ae3-a4ain5cqr6k7c
2bo$obo$b2o2$4b3o$4bo$5bo!


2c/47d:
x = 9, y = 9, rule = B2ik3acijn4aijkty5aejr6cin7c8/S2-c3jnry4ain5ijn6e
o$b2o$2o4$7bo$6b2o$6bobo!


83bismuth38 wrote:what about a SMOS made of a SMOS?


As Saka said, we would need a very small versatile SMOS.
Here are two things that should be easier to find:

1. An asymmetric SMOS
2. A rule with two SMOSs
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Re: Spaceships made up of other spaceships (SMOS)

Postby Saka » September 23rd, 2017, 7:03 am

Going to the mosque is very nice. It lets you leave your computer searching for things like this failed rake 20c/190o
x = 3, y = 26, rule = B2in3-cqy4eknqwz5eiry6e7c/S2-kn3cejnr4cjryz5ckq6aek
bo$2bo$3o21$3o$2bo$bo!


[OFFTOPIC]
I think the failed-glider-sparks can be used:
x = 40, y = 35, rule = B2in3-cqy4eknqwz5eiry6e7c/S2-kn3cejnr4cjryz5ckq6aek
37bobo$38b2o$38b2o$37bobo29$3o$2bo$bo!


There's also a weird p6 in that rule:
x = 16, y = 16, rule = B2in3-cqy4eknqwz5eiry6e7c/S2-kn3cejnr4cjryz5ckq6aek
o2bobob4o2b2o$2b5ob3o3b2o$2obo2b2o2b4o$o2bo3b2o$b2ob2o3b3o3bo$b3ob3o2b
ob2obo$b2obo2b3o2bo2bo$2o5b2o2b2o2bo$obo3b2obob4o$2b2ob3ob2o2bo$2o2b2o
b4ob2obo$o2b2o2b3o4bo$3ob2o2b5o2bo$o3b2o5b2obo$2bob4obo2bo$2b3obo2bobo
b2o!


wat
x = 16, y = 16, rule = B2in3-cqy4eknqwz5eiry6e7c/S2-kn3cejnr4cjryz5ckq6aek
boboboooboooobbb$
obboboooobobobob$
oooboboooboboobb$
bboobboobboobooo$
obbbbbobboobbboo$
obboboobboboooob$
ooobbboboobboooo$
oooboobobbobbbbo$
ooooobobobbobooo$
obbbboobbobobbbb$
ooobobooooobbbbb$
obbbbobobbbooobb$
boobbbooboboobob$
obobooboobboobbo$
bbbooobooboobbob$
boboooobbobboobb!

[/OFFTOPIC]
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x = 17, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
b2ob2obo5b2o$11b4obo$2bob3o2bo2b3o$bo3b2o4b2o$o2bo2bob2o3b4o$bob2obo5b
o2b2o$2b2o4bobo2b3o$bo3b5ob2obobo$2bo5bob2o$4bob2o2bobobo!

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Re: Spaceships made up of other spaceships (SMOS)

Postby muzik » September 23rd, 2017, 3:25 pm

Found my first one, a c/22:
x = 3, y = 10, rule = B3aeijn4acqtyz5cy6ik8/S2-n3jnr4jry5j6e8
bo$2bo$3o5$3o$2bo$bo!



I'll try to find some skew ones, maybe this could result in a knight SMOS.
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Re: Spaceships made up of other spaceships (SMOS)

Postby Saka » September 23rd, 2017, 8:00 pm

muzik wrote:Found my first one, a c/22:
x = 3, y = 10, rule = B3aeijn4acqtyz5cy6ik8/S2-n3jnr4jry5j6e8
bo$2bo$3o5$3o$2bo$bo!



I'll try to find some skew ones, maybe this could result in a knight SMOS.

I've been looking for skews for a few weeks (But not in one long session) , probably gone through what, 5M rules?

TOday's results:
4c/68d
x = 14, y = 14, rule = B2ce3-cjy4-eiknq5ejnr6a7c/S2-in3qr6n7c
10b2o$10bo2bo$10b2o8$3o$obo2$bo!


c/64d
x = 8, y = 8, rule = B2eik3ir4jryz5j6ik/S1c2-in3ekny4aeijkn5cijkn6aik7c
6b2o$6bo$6bo$6b2o3$4o$o2bo!
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x = 17, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
b2ob2obo5b2o$11b4obo$2bob3o2bo2b3o$bo3b2o4b2o$o2bo2bob2o3b4o$bob2obo5b
o2b2o$2b2o4bobo2b3o$bo3b5ob2obobo$2bo5bob2o$4bob2o2bobobo!

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Re: Spaceships made up of other spaceships (SMOS)

Postby muzik » September 24th, 2017, 1:28 pm

2c/40:

x = 3, y = 10, rule = B2ikn3-ek4-knqyz5qr6a7e/S1c2ae3cijnr4jr5ay6e
bo$2bo$3o5$3o$2bo$bo!
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Re: Spaceships made up of other spaceships (SMOS)

Postby wildmyron » September 25th, 2017, 5:00 am

2c/24 diagonal with LWSS
x = 11, y = 11, rule = B2n3-n4-akrtw5ijq6cek7e/S2-cn3aijnr4jr5q6ce
7bo2bo$6bo$6bo3bo$6b4o3$b3o$o2bo$3bo$3bo$obo!
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Re: Spaceships made up of other spaceships (SMOS)

Postby Saka » September 25th, 2017, 5:39 am

wildmyron wrote:2c/24 diagonal with LWSS
x = 11, y = 11, rule = B2n3-n4-akrtw5ijq6cek7e/S2-cn3aijnr4jr5q6ce
7bo2bo$6bo$6bo3bo$6b4o3$b3o$o2bo$3bo$3bo$obo!

Congratulations! You just found the first macroship SMOS!

EDIT:
6c/296o
x = 3, y = 26, rule = B2n3-ekq4nqz5eikr6-in/S2-n3cejnr4ajrz5ejy6ce8
bo$2bo$3o21$3o$2bo$bo!
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x = 17, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
b2ob2obo5b2o$11b4obo$2bob3o2bo2b3o$bo3b2o4b2o$o2bo2bob2o3b4o$bob2obo5b
o2b2o$2b2o4bobo2b3o$bo3b5ob2obobo$2bo5bob2o$4bob2o2bobobo!

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Re: Spaceships made up of other spaceships (SMOS)

Postby wildmyron » September 25th, 2017, 7:33 pm

Here's another SMOLWSS, 4c/29 diagonal:
x = 11, y = 11, rule = B3aeijq4acknr6aei/S2-c3-cky4eijknqt5aeknr78
7bobo$10bo$10bo$7bo2bo$8b3o3$o2bo$4bo$o3bo$b4o!


and another with anti-parallel LWSS, c/28 orthogonal:
x = 4, y = 13, rule = B2n3-cknq4acntz5-aceq6kn/S2-cn3aijnr4iz
bobo$o$o$o2bo$3o4$3o$o2bo$o$o$bobo!


@Saka: macroship? Also, these don't seem that difficult to find - did you actually try searching with LWSS?

Edit:
another, 5c/148 orthogonal:
x = 4, y = 26, rule = B2kn3-cen4-anty5-aei6aik8/S1e2eik3-cekq4ej5i6aci
obo$3bo$3bo$o2bo$b3o17$b3o$o2bo$3bo$3bo$obo!
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Re: Spaceships made up of other spaceships (SMOS)

Postby Saka » September 26th, 2017, 5:03 am

wildmyron wrote:@Saka: macroship? Also, these don't seem that difficult to find - did you actually try searching with LWSS?


Macroship is a random term I made up yet again. Yes, I tried, I probably didnt do the right things.
Very highly important edit:
9c/93o
x = 3, y = 20, rule = B2in3aijkn4acjt5-ainy6ik78/S2ace3-ckqy4enr5-cqy6n
bo$2bo$3o15$3o$2bo$bo!


My first LWSS SMOS!!
3c/30
x = 4, y = 15, rule = B3-cnr4jknqy5y6cek/S23-cky4ijyz5in6i8
obo$3bo$3bo$o2bo$b3o6$b3o$o2bo$3bo$3bo$obo!


So now we need to SMOS the moon

EDIT2:
SMOSed another ship:
x = 4, y = 15, rule = B3aiqy4ijr5kry6en7/S2-ik3-cy4ajknqwz5ijy7c
2o$3bo$b3o$2bo8$2bo$b3o$3bo$2o!


VERY COOL EDIT:
this is beautiful :o :o :o :shock:
27c/337
x = 7, y = 42, rule = B2k3aij4r7c/S23-ak4-kny5-iqry6-ak7e
4bo$4b2o$o4b2o$6o$2bobo33$2bobo$6o$o4b2o$4b2o$4bo!
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x = 17, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
b2ob2obo5b2o$11b4obo$2bob3o2bo2b3o$bo3b2o4b2o$o2bo2bob2o3b4o$bob2obo5b
o2b2o$2b2o4bobo2b3o$bo3b5ob2obobo$2bo5bob2o$4bob2o2bobobo!

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Re: SMOSMOS

Postby Saka » September 28th, 2017, 5:45 am

I have just found the first spaceship made up of spaceships made up of other spaceships!
It's a nice 6c/92o with A for Awesome's c/18 T-Ship
x = 9, y = 24, rule = B34enw5q6ae7c/S2ac3-cknq4-aenqt5akqy8
6b3o2$6bobo$7bo3$obo$o2bo$obo7$obo$o2bo$obo3$7bo$6bobo2$6b3o!
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x = 17, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
b2ob2obo5b2o$11b4obo$2bob3o2bo2b3o$bo3b2o4b2o$o2bo2bob2o3b4o$bob2obo5b
o2b2o$2b2o4bobo2b3o$bo3b5ob2obobo$2bo5bob2o$4bob2o2bobobo!

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Re: SMOSMOS

Postby Gamedziner » September 28th, 2017, 6:24 am

Saka wrote:I have just found the first spaceship made up of spaceships made up of other spaceships!
It's a nice 6c/92o with A for Awesome's c/18 T-Ship
x = 9, y = 24, rule = B34enw5q6ae7c/S2ac3-cknq4-aenqt5akqy8
6b3o2$6bobo$7bo3$obo$o2bo$obo7$obo$o2bo$obo3$7bo$6bobo2$6b3o!

Congratulations!
x = 81, y = 96, rule = LifeHistory
58.2A$58.2A3$59.2A17.2A$59.2A17.2A3$79.2A$79.2A2$57.A$56.A$56.3A4$27.
A$27.A.A$27.2A21$3.2A$3.2A2.2A$7.2A18$7.2A$7.2A2.2A$11.2A11$2A$2A2.2A
$4.2A18$4.2A$4.2A2.2A$8.2A!
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Re: Spaceships made up of other spaceships (SMOS)

Postby muzik » September 28th, 2017, 10:49 am

The obvious question arises: SMOSMOSMOS?
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Re: Spaceships made up of other spaceships (SMOS)

Postby fluffykitty » September 28th, 2017, 10:50 am

Starting to get unlikely. You'd need a reaction that reforms 8+ ships in just the right positions.
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Re: Spaceships made up of other spaceships (SMOS)

Postby toroidalet » September 28th, 2017, 11:01 am

muzik wrote:The obvious question arises: SMOSMOSMOS?

Most likely not, and I would suggest the sname SMSMSMOS.
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Triple-T 2c/30:
x = 11, y = 6, rule = B3-cknq4kn5r6akn7c/S2acn3-c4ijqrw5aceqr6ik7e8
4b3o$5bo2$o9bo$2o7b2o$o9bo!

c/28 normal bi-glider:
x = 3, y = 10, rule = B2kn3-qry4ijntz5jkqr6-ak7/S023-a4eijnqtz5cjny67c8
bo$2bo$3o5$3o$2bo$bo!
x = 11, y = 5, rule = B2ck3-ij5n78/S01e2ei3-k5ai
8b2o$2o3b2o$bo4bo3bo$2bo2b2o$o7bo!

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Re: Spaceships made up of other spaceships (SMOS)

Postby Saka » September 29th, 2017, 5:35 am

Nice 8c/52o from normal bigliders
x = 3, y = 22, rule = B2in3aijkn4at5eq6an7e/S2-cn3-acek4eiw5cjy6cei7c
2bo$obo$b2o17$b2o$obo$2bo!


Maybe we can add the SMOSMOS to the golly pattern collection?
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x = 17, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
b2ob2obo5b2o$11b4obo$2bob3o2bo2b3o$bo3b2o4b2o$o2bo2bob2o3b4o$bob2obo5b
o2b2o$2b2o4bobo2b3o$bo3b5ob2obobo$2bo5bob2o$4bob2o2bobobo!

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Re: Spaceships made up of other spaceships (SMOS)

Postby Saka » September 29th, 2017, 10:21 pm

SMOSed the thumb into a c/29o
x = 2, y = 11, rule = B2ekn3acin4acijkr5acn6n7c8/S2aek3eijnr4acetz5ejr6ai78
2o$2o$bo6$bo$2o$2o!

3c/42o
x = 2, y = 11, rule = B2ein3ai4r6e/S2-i3-ajq4-erz5cijkq6-n7c
2o$2o$bo6$bo$2o$2o!
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x = 17, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
b2ob2obo5b2o$11b4obo$2bob3o2bo2b3o$bo3b2o4b2o$o2bo2bob2o3b4o$bob2obo5b
o2b2o$2b2o4bobo2b3o$bo3b5ob2obobo$2bo5bob2o$4bob2o2bobobo!

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Re: Spaceships made up of other spaceships (SMOS)

Postby Rhombic » October 2nd, 2017, 4:40 pm

x = 13, y = 3, rule = B2i3-ckqy4-acjrz5iq6-ck8/S2-kn3eijnr4eijnry5-ijkr6-ae7e8
3o7b3o$2bo7bo$bo9bo!
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