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B34w7e/S234kqw

Post by Majestas32 » December 20th, 2017, 5:46 pm

This rule was inspired by trying to make a "lite" version of PlasmaLife (b34-air/S234-air) that kept the essential components (mostly, the c/10d glider).

This rule ended up being much more almost-exploding than PlasmaLife was, though.

The five most common oscillators are below.

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x = 40, y = 20, rule = B34w7e/S234kqwHistory
34.B$33.4B$32.5B$28.B2.7B$26.13B$25.14B$24.16B$24.15B$23.16B$24.14B$
5.3B3.BAB3.BA5.2A9B.B$.B3.2B2A2.B2A3.2AB3.A2B3A6B$3A2.B2AB2.B2A2.B2A
3.B2A3B2A5B$.B4.A2B2.BAB3.AB2.3BABAB2A4B$20.6B2A5B$21.9B$21.10B$23.7B
$24.5B$26.B!
The sparky p88 can be used to make guns:

(From AbhpzTa)
p176 and p88 ant guns:

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x = 70, y = 16, rule = B34w7e/S234kqw
2b2o13bo34b2o13bo$b3o11b2o34b3o11b2o$bo2bo7bobo3b2o31bo2bo7bobo3b2o$bo
b2o12b2o32bob2o12b2o$o11bob2obobo30bo11bob2obobo$ob2o9bo36bob2o9bo$b2o
14b2o32b2o14b2o$17bo49bo$17bo49bo4$53b2o$54bo$53bo$53b2o!
p88 wv gun:

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x = 48, y = 13, rule = B34w7e/S234kqw
4b2o$4b3o$4b3o11b2o$17b2obo$o2bo2b2o12bo$bo2bo3bo7b2obo$bo3bobo8bo2bo
25b2o$3bobo11b3o20b2ob4o$17b2o21bo$40bo6bo$41bobo3bo$42bobo$42bobo!
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Here are the basic spaceships, in order of commonness (not counting flotillae or slight modifications)

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x = 77, y = 20, rule = B34w7e/S234kqwHistory
2A9.2A5.A9.A7.3A9.A15.A7.3A$2A8.2A4.2A.2A7.A6.A3.A7.A.A12.2A.2A4.2A.
2A$2.A6.A6.2A.2A8.A5.A3.A7.A.A12.2A.2A6.A$10.2A3.A.A.A.A5.2A19.A13.A
3.A$16.A3.A6.2A6.2A.2A21.2A3.2A3.2A.2A$36.A.A11.A20.5A$48.2A.2A$28.3A
17.3A$72.3A$72.3A$73.A2$48.2A$50.A$51.A$50.A$71.2A.2A$70.A5.A$71.2A.
2A$72.3A!
c/10d glider, c/4d ant, c/2o p8, c/9o p18 that drags a p2, c/2o p6, c/37o p74 that drags a p6, c/2o p2, c/2o p12 sparky T-hassling spaceships.

Most still lives in this rule are from Life, but several rare ones are much more common in this rule. Beehives are more common than blocks, long ships are the 5th most common SL being much more common than the ship (which is due to the R pentomino being a 50 generation long ship predecessor), and para-loaf on cap is surprisingly common for some reason.
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Re: B34w7e/S234kqw

Post by LaundryPizza03 » December 20th, 2017, 9:30 pm

I think it's the B7e transition that's causing this:

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#C PlasmaLife Lite
x = 16, y = 16, rule = B34w7e/S234kqw
bo3b3o5bobo$2bo4bob2ob2o$b3o2b2o2b2o3bo$o4bobob4o$o2b2ob2obo4b2o$o4b2o
bo2bo3bo$2b2o2b2o2bobo$2ob2o2bo4bob2o$3o3b4ob2obo$2o5b2o3b3o$o4bob3obo
$3b2ob2o6b2o$4o3b3ob2ob2o$ob7o3b2obo$3o3b2o2bob3o$5o3b4ob3o!

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#C PlasmaLife eLite
x = 16, y = 16, rule = B34w/S234kqw
bo3b3o5bobo$2bo4bob2ob2o$b3o2b2o2b2o3bo$o4bobob4o$o2b2ob2obo4b2o$o4b2o
bo2bo3bo$2b2o2b2o2bobo$2ob2o2bo4bob2o$3o3b4ob2obo$2o5b2o3b3o$o4bob3obo
$3b2ob2o6b2o$4o3b3ob2ob2o$ob7o3b2obo$3o3b2o2bob3o$5o3b4ob3o!

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#C PlasmaLife
x = 16, y = 16, rule = B34-air/S234-air
bo3b3o5bobo$2bo4bob2ob2o$b3o2b2o2b2o3bo$o4bobob4o$o2b2ob2obo4b2o$o4b2o
bo2bo3bo$2b2o2b2o2bobo$2ob2o2bo4bob2o$3o3b4ob2obo$2o5b2o3b3o$o4bob3obo
$3b2ob2o6b2o$4o3b3ob2ob2o$ob7o3b2obo$3o3b2o2bob3o$5o3b4ob3o!
The B-heptomino lasts 5164 generations in Lite, 73 generations in eLite, and 6 in PlasmaLife:

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#C PlasmaLife Lite
x = 4, y = 3, rule = B34w7e/S234kqw
ob2o$3o$bo!

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#C PlasmaLife eLite
x = 4, y = 3, rule = B34w/S234kqw
ob2o$3o$bo!

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#C PlasmaLife
x = 4, y = 3, rule = B34-air/S234-air
ob2o$3o$bo!
The main culprit for the instability is most likely the traffic light sequence, which evolves into a honey farm instead of disappearing.
However, for larger soups, PlasmaLife Lite is slightly more stable than regular PlasmaLife:

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#C PlasmaLife Lite
x = 64, y = 64, rule = B34w7e/S234kqw
2bo2bob3o3b3obob2o2bo4b4o3bo2b2o2bob2o3b3o2bobobo2bobo$3b3ob3o2b4o5bo
2bo4b2o2bo3bo2bob4ob2o4b4ob6o$ob2obobo2b6o2bob3ob4o3bobobo2bo2bo4bobo
2bo2b2obo3b3o$ob2obobo2b2o3bo3bob2obo4bo4bob3obo2bob3obobobobo6bo$2o2b
2o2bob2o3b3ob5o2b6obob4obo4bo7b4o2b2o2bo$3bob3ob3ob2o3b2o2bobobo2b2o3b
o2b3o3b3obobo4b3ob3obo$2b2ob3o2b2ob3obo2b4o2bobobo2b2o2b3obo2bobobob2o
b3obob3obo$5ob7obo3bobobob2ob2obob2o6bob11o2b2o2b5o$4ob2obo6bo2b3ob2o
6bo2bo3bo3b2ob2o2bob3obo2b6o$2o2bo2bob2o5bob4o2b2obo2bo4b3o2b3o3bo3bo
2bo2bo3b2o$4ob3obo4bo3b3obo2b4o3b3obo2bo2b2ob2o2bo3bo4b3obo$b5ob3ob2o
2b2ob2o2b2ob3o5bo2b2o3bob3o2bob3ob3o4bo$5o2bob4o2bo2b6obob2o2bo4bo2bo
2b4ob2ob2obo2b5obo$3ob4obo2bob5ob3o4bo2bo2bo4b2o4b3o2bob4ob2ob2obo$2ob
ob2o2bob2o10bo2bo3b3ob2o2bob3o3bob3o2b2ob2o2bobo$o4bob3ob5obobobo2bob
4o2b2o2bob5ob2ob3ob3obo2b4obo$4obob5ob2o2b2o2b3ob2obob2ob3o2bo2bob2o2b
ob4obo3b4obo$o3b2o4b3ob3ob5obobobob4o2bo2bob2obo2bobobobo4bo2bobo$2bob
2o3bob2ob2ob3o4b4o5b4o2bob2o2bob5ob4obo2b2o$3obobob2ob2ob2ob2o3b2o2bo
5b2ob2o2b4o2bo4bo2bo3bo3b2o$2bo2b2obo3b4ob2ob4ob4o2b2o4bo2bob5ob2o6b5o
2bo$b4ob3o6bob3obobob2o2bobo2b2obo2bob2o2b4obob3obo2b2o$2b2ob2obobobob
ob5o2bo2b2o3bob2o3b3o2b3ob5ob4obob2obo$3bobo2b7o3b3obo4b4obobobo2bob2o
bob4ob3o2bo3b3o$bob5o3bo2b2o2bo5b2ob2o2b9o2b3o3bobob3o2b2o2bobo$2ob5ob
3obo4b2o2b2o8b3o2bo5bob2o5bob2o2b5o$3b7o2b2o2b4ob2ob3o2b2ob2obo5b3obo
3bo5bob3o$5bobobo3b2o3b2o3bo4b2obo2b8o2bob3obo3b5o3bo$o3bobo5bo2bobo2b
o7bob4ob2ob3o3bobo3bobo3bobo3bo$o3bo3b2ob4o3b2ob6obo3bob5ob3ob2ob2ob2o
b5o3b2o$b3ob2ob4obobobob2o3bo2bo2b4o2bo6bob2ob2o3b5o2b3o$4b3o2b2o3bo2b
2ob4ob2obob2o3b2o2bo5b3ob7o3b5o$obo2b2obobobob3o4b2o3bobob2o3bobo2bobo
b2o2b4ob4o6bo$5obo2bo2b2obobo2b2ob2o2b2obo3bo2b4o6b2obo2bo2b2obobo$bo
3bo2b3obob5o2b2o2b3o4b2ob2obo5b3ob2o2b3obo$2ob2ob2ob2ob4ob2obob2obo3bo
3b3obobo2bobobo4bob2obobobobo$5bo2b2o4b3ob3o3bo3b2o4bob7o5bob2o6b2o2bo
$obo3bo4b2ob2ob3ob3ob3o3bo2bo4b3ob3obobo2bobo3b2ob3o$o3b3ob5obo3b3o2bo
2bobobobo2bobo2b3o2b2ob3o2bobob3obo$2b2ob2o3bo2b8obo2b2o3b3o5b2o2b2o3b
4obo3b4o2b2o$2b5ob5o2b3o2b3ob4ob2obobobobo3b2ob6o5bobobo$o3b4ob5obo4b
2ob3o2bob5o2b7obobo3b2ob3obo2bobo$o2b4obo5b6ob2obobo2b2o2b2obob2obo5bo
b4o2b2o2bo$b2obo2b3o2b4ob5o4b3o2b3o2b3o2bo2bo3b3o3bobo2b2obo$o4bob2o4b
o5b4obobob6obob3obob4ob2o3b3o3b4o$2o2bo2b2obo2bo4b6o4b2obob4o5bo4b3obo
b2o4b5o$2obo3bobob2obo3b2o4b3ob3o3bo2bobobo6bob2ob6o2b2o$3o3b2ob2ob3o
2b3o4bo4bo4bobob2o2b2ob3obo2bo2bo3b5o$o2b2o5b6o4bo3bo3b2ob2o3b2o2bobo
2b3o2bo2b2obobo2b2o$o2b3ob2o2b2obo2b2obo6b2o3b2obo2bo3bo2b2ob4obo4bobo
bo$o3b2obobo2b3obo2b2ob2o2b2o4b2obo2b3ob2o2bo2b4obo2b5obo$b2obo3bo2b2o
b3ob2obo3bo3bo5bobo3bob7o4bob4ob2o$b6o2b3obobo5bo2b2obo2b3obo4bo3b2obo
3bobobo3bo$7b3obobo4bo2bo2bobo2bob2o3b4ob3o2bo2bo4b2obo3bobo$ob3obobo
2bo5b2o3bo3b5o6b4o5b2obob2obob2o3b2o$3bobobo2b2o2b2obo2b2obob3o6bo2b3o
2bo2bo3b2o3b2obo2b3o$2o2b2obobob2obo3bob3o5b2o3b2obo2b2o6b2obobob2obob
5o$ob2obo3bo3b2ob6ob2o5b2obo4bobob2obob2o5bobobob4o$bobo2b2o3b4o2b3ob
2o2b3ob3o3b2ob3o3b2ob4ob4obo2b4o$bobo4bobo3b3obob2o2b8o2bo7bo2bobobo3b
4o3bo$2ob2obob8obob7o5b4o2bob3o3bo4bobobobob3ob2o$4b2o2b6o2b4obobo2bob
o5bob2o2bo7bobob2obobo2b4o$ob5obo3b2obo5b2o2bob4obo3bob2o4b6o2b5o5bo$
3b2ob2obo3b2ob3o5bob2o3bo2bo3bob2obob3obob2o3b2o3b2o!

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#C PlasmaLife
x = 64, y = 64, rule = B34-air/S234-air
2bo2bob3o3b3obob2o2bo4b4o3bo2b2o2bob2o3b3o2bobobo2bobo$3b3ob3o2b4o5bo
2bo4b2o2bo3bo2bob4ob2o4b4ob6o$ob2obobo2b6o2bob3ob4o3bobobo2bo2bo4bobo
2bo2b2obo3b3o$ob2obobo2b2o3bo3bob2obo4bo4bob3obo2bob3obobobobo6bo$2o2b
2o2bob2o3b3ob5o2b6obob4obo4bo7b4o2b2o2bo$3bob3ob3ob2o3b2o2bobobo2b2o3b
o2b3o3b3obobo4b3ob3obo$2b2ob3o2b2ob3obo2b4o2bobobo2b2o2b3obo2bobobob2o
b3obob3obo$5ob7obo3bobobob2ob2obob2o6bob11o2b2o2b5o$4ob2obo6bo2b3ob2o
6bo2bo3bo3b2ob2o2bob3obo2b6o$2o2bo2bob2o5bob4o2b2obo2bo4b3o2b3o3bo3bo
2bo2bo3b2o$4ob3obo4bo3b3obo2b4o3b3obo2bo2b2ob2o2bo3bo4b3obo$b5ob3ob2o
2b2ob2o2b2ob3o5bo2b2o3bob3o2bob3ob3o4bo$5o2bob4o2bo2b6obob2o2bo4bo2bo
2b4ob2ob2obo2b5obo$3ob4obo2bob5ob3o4bo2bo2bo4b2o4b3o2bob4ob2ob2obo$2ob
ob2o2bob2o10bo2bo3b3ob2o2bob3o3bob3o2b2ob2o2bobo$o4bob3ob5obobobo2bob
4o2b2o2bob5ob2ob3ob3obo2b4obo$4obob5ob2o2b2o2b3ob2obob2ob3o2bo2bob2o2b
ob4obo3b4obo$o3b2o4b3ob3ob5obobobob4o2bo2bob2obo2bobobobo4bo2bobo$2bob
2o3bob2ob2ob3o4b4o5b4o2bob2o2bob5ob4obo2b2o$3obobob2ob2ob2ob2o3b2o2bo
5b2ob2o2b4o2bo4bo2bo3bo3b2o$2bo2b2obo3b4ob2ob4ob4o2b2o4bo2bob5ob2o6b5o
2bo$b4ob3o6bob3obobob2o2bobo2b2obo2bob2o2b4obob3obo2b2o$2b2ob2obobobob
ob5o2bo2b2o3bob2o3b3o2b3ob5ob4obob2obo$3bobo2b7o3b3obo4b4obobobo2bob2o
bob4ob3o2bo3b3o$bob5o3bo2b2o2bo5b2ob2o2b9o2b3o3bobob3o2b2o2bobo$2ob5ob
3obo4b2o2b2o8b3o2bo5bob2o5bob2o2b5o$3b7o2b2o2b4ob2ob3o2b2ob2obo5b3obo
3bo5bob3o$5bobobo3b2o3b2o3bo4b2obo2b8o2bob3obo3b5o3bo$o3bobo5bo2bobo2b
o7bob4ob2ob3o3bobo3bobo3bobo3bo$o3bo3b2ob4o3b2ob6obo3bob5ob3ob2ob2ob2o
b5o3b2o$b3ob2ob4obobobob2o3bo2bo2b4o2bo6bob2ob2o3b5o2b3o$4b3o2b2o3bo2b
2ob4ob2obob2o3b2o2bo5b3ob7o3b5o$obo2b2obobobob3o4b2o3bobob2o3bobo2bobo
b2o2b4ob4o6bo$5obo2bo2b2obobo2b2ob2o2b2obo3bo2b4o6b2obo2bo2b2obobo$bo
3bo2b3obob5o2b2o2b3o4b2ob2obo5b3ob2o2b3obo$2ob2ob2ob2ob4ob2obob2obo3bo
3b3obobo2bobobo4bob2obobobobo$5bo2b2o4b3ob3o3bo3b2o4bob7o5bob2o6b2o2bo
$obo3bo4b2ob2ob3ob3ob3o3bo2bo4b3ob3obobo2bobo3b2ob3o$o3b3ob5obo3b3o2bo
2bobobobo2bobo2b3o2b2ob3o2bobob3obo$2b2ob2o3bo2b8obo2b2o3b3o5b2o2b2o3b
4obo3b4o2b2o$2b5ob5o2b3o2b3ob4ob2obobobobo3b2ob6o5bobobo$o3b4ob5obo4b
2ob3o2bob5o2b7obobo3b2ob3obo2bobo$o2b4obo5b6ob2obobo2b2o2b2obob2obo5bo
b4o2b2o2bo$b2obo2b3o2b4ob5o4b3o2b3o2b3o2bo2bo3b3o3bobo2b2obo$o4bob2o4b
o5b4obobob6obob3obob4ob2o3b3o3b4o$2o2bo2b2obo2bo4b6o4b2obob4o5bo4b3obo
b2o4b5o$2obo3bobob2obo3b2o4b3ob3o3bo2bobobo6bob2ob6o2b2o$3o3b2ob2ob3o
2b3o4bo4bo4bobob2o2b2ob3obo2bo2bo3b5o$o2b2o5b6o4bo3bo3b2ob2o3b2o2bobo
2b3o2bo2b2obobo2b2o$o2b3ob2o2b2obo2b2obo6b2o3b2obo2bo3bo2b2ob4obo4bobo
bo$o3b2obobo2b3obo2b2ob2o2b2o4b2obo2b3ob2o2bo2b4obo2b5obo$b2obo3bo2b2o
b3ob2obo3bo3bo5bobo3bob7o4bob4ob2o$b6o2b3obobo5bo2b2obo2b3obo4bo3b2obo
3bobobo3bo$7b3obobo4bo2bo2bobo2bob2o3b4ob3o2bo2bo4b2obo3bobo$ob3obobo
2bo5b2o3bo3b5o6b4o5b2obob2obob2o3b2o$3bobobo2b2o2b2obo2b2obob3o6bo2b3o
2bo2bo3b2o3b2obo2b3o$2o2b2obobob2obo3bob3o5b2o3b2obo2b2o6b2obobob2obob
5o$ob2obo3bo3b2ob6ob2o5b2obo4bobob2obob2o5bobobob4o$bobo2b2o3b4o2b3ob
2o2b3ob3o3b2ob3o3b2ob4ob4obo2b4o$bobo4bobo3b3obob2o2b8o2bo7bo2bobobo3b
4o3bo$2ob2obob8obob7o5b4o2bob3o3bo4bobobobob3ob2o$4b2o2b6o2b4obobo2bob
o5bob2o2bo7bobob2obobo2b4o$ob5obo3b2obo5b2o2bob4obo3bob2o4b6o2b5o5bo$
3b2ob2obo3b2ob3o5bob2o3bo2bo3bob2obob3obob2o3b2o3b2o!

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#C PlasmaLife eLite
x = 64, y = 64, rule = B34w/S234kqw
b2obobob2obo2b5o2bo5b5ob3o3bo2b2obo2bob2obob2o3b3o$3bobo2b3ob4o3bob2ob
obo2b8obo5b5o2bobo3b4ob2o$2bob2o2bo4bobo3b2ob2o7bo2b2ob3ob3o2b4o2b3o2b
2o3b2o$3bo3bobo4b2o2b2ob2o2b2o2bo2bo8b2obo2bo2b2o4b4ob2o$b2ob3obob3ob
2ob2ob5ob2ob3o4bo2b2ob3o2b2obob3ob2o2b4o$o2b3o2bo2bo2bo2b4ob2o2bobob2o
bobo3bobob2obob2o2b5obob3o$bo2bo4b3o3bobo4b3o3b2o3bo4b5ob2o2bo2bob2obo
3bo2bo$4obo5b5o2b3o2bo2bo2bo2b2o3bobo4b2o2b4o2b3ob3o$2ob7o4b2o2bo2bobo
3b2ob5obob2o5b2ob5obo2bo3b3o$2o3bob6obo2bo2b7obob2ob2obobob4obo6bo2bob
ob3obo$o2b4ob3ob2ob2ob2ob2o4b4obob2o2bob2o2bob3o10bo2bo$b4obobo2b4obob
2obobobo2bobo2b3obo2bo6b4obo5b2o$2bo7bo3bo2bo3b3o2b3o4bobobob2o7b2o2bo
2b3o2b3o$2obobo2bo3bo3b3obob3o2bo4bobo3b2o4b2o4bo2b3o3b2obo$5obo2b2o2b
obobo5bo2bobo2bo3b4o3bo3bobobob2ob2obob2o$b6o4bob3obo2bob2ob2obobo3b2o
bo4b2o7bob2o2b2o$2obo4b3obo2bob4obo3bo3bob2o2bo2bo4b3obob7ob2o2bo$2bo
4bobob3o3b5obob2o3bo3bobo2bo3bobo3b4o2bo6b2o$obo2b2o3b3obob4o3bo2b4o3b
2o2b2o4bo6b2ob2o2bob3o$3o2b2obo4b2ob2o2b2obo3b2obob2o2bob2obob2o5b2ob
3o2bo2bobo$6b4obo3bo2b2obob2o4b2obob3o2b2o3bob2o4b2o2b2o3bobo$bob2obo
3bobo2bo5b2obo7bo2bo2b5obo3b3obobo3b3o$2ob4o2bo3bo3bobobo3bob4ob2ob3o
3bo3b2obob3o7bob2o$5bo2bo4bo5b2o2bobo2bo2b3obob4o2bob2o3b3o2b4o3b2o$5b
o3bobob2ob3obo2b6ob2ob2o4b2o5bo2bo2bo7bo$obo3bo2b2o2b4obo3bobo4b2o2b2o
2bob2obob3ob6ob2o2b4o$5b4ob2o2bob3ob2o2bo2bob2obo6bobob2obobo4b5o2b4o$
2b2ob2o2bob2ob2obob4obo2b4obo2bobob4o3bobo3bo2bob2obo2bo$3ob3o3bo3bobo
6b2ob3obob4obobob4o2bo2b4ob2obo2bo$2b3ob2o4b2o3b2obob2o6b3obo2bo2b2ob
2obo2b2o2b7obobo$2bo2bob2obob2obob2o3b2obo4b3ob2o2bo2b2o2b3o2b2o3bo2b
2obobo$2b4o2b2obobo3bob6o5b2ob3obo4bo4b2obobo4b2o2bobo$o4b3obobob6o3b
2o2bo2b2o5bob2o4bo4bob7ob4o$b2o2bob7ob2obob2ob3o2b2obobo3b4obo2b2o2b2o
bob2ob7o$o5bo2bob2o3b3o2bo3b5ob2ob2ob2o3bo4bo2b3o2bo3bob2o$bo2bobo6bob
3ob5ob3obo2b3o2b2o2b2o3bo2b2o2bo2bo2b2o$obobo3bobobob5o2bob3ob4obobob
2o2bo2b4obo2b9ob2o$3bo4b3ob5ob2o3b3ob8obob3obob2ob2o2b2ob3ob5o$bo2b2ob
o2bo3bo2b2o3bo2b3ob4ob7o3bobo4b2obo2bob3obo$4o7bobob2o2b2o3bob2o2bo2b
3ob2o5bobob3o4b2o3bo2bo$5o4b2ob4o10bobob2ob2o3b2obo2b7ob2ob5ob2o$2bo3b
obob2o3bobo2bob3o4bo3b3o4b2obo4bo5b2o6bo$3b4o2bo3b3obobo6bobo4bobo2bob
ob7obo2bob3obo2b2o$2b3ob5ob3o2b2o2bob3o2b3o2bo2bo4b6o6b6o3bo$5bob6obob
obo3bo2bobo2b3obo3bob2ob2ob2obo2b4obob4o$2ob2obobo3b2obob2o7b2ob3ob2ob
o2bo2b2o2b3o4b2o5bobo$obo3b2ob4o2bob2o2b2ob3obobob4o4b5o8b3obob5o$2bo
3bo3b2ob3o2bo4bob3obo2bobobob2o2b2o2b5obobobob2o2b2o$o3bo4bob2ob2obo2b
3o3b3obo2b4ob3o3b3obobo2b2obob3o$o2bob2ob2o2b2o4b2ob2o3bob2ob2o2bo2bo
2bo5b2obobob2obo4b2o$6o2bo2bobobo3bo2b3o2bob4ob2obo3b7obo2bob2obob2o2b
o$bobobob2o3bobobo2bob4obob2ob3o5b2o2b2o3b3ob2ob5o$2bobo3b7o2bobob3o2b
3ob2o2b2ob2o4bob5o3bob3o3bobo$bobobobo2b3o3b3o5bo3b2obo2b7ob3ob4o3b6ob
2obo$o2b2o3bobo2b4o7b3o5b3obo2bo2b4o2bo4b3ob7o$o5bobobob2obo2bob2ob2ob
o2b2o8b2ob2o3bobo5b2o3b4o$bob2ob3obob2ob3obo2b3ob2o2b5obobo5bob4obo3bo
3bobobo$o3b4obobob2o3b3o4bob2o2bob3obob2obob4o2bob2obo2b2ob3o$o4b2obob
2obo6bo2bo2b2ob2ob4o6bob2o4bobo3b4o2bo$3b3o2b3o3bo3bo8b2ob2o3bob2ob4ob
4ob4o2bo2bo3bo$bobobo5b6ob3o2b2o3bob2o7b3obo2b4o3bo4bobo$2o3bo3b2ob7o
3b3o2b2obobo3bobob3obob2obob2o5b3obo$obob2o3b2obo4b2o2bob4o2bo4bob2o3b
4ob2obo2bo3bo2b2ob2o$bo4b3o2b2obobob2obo4bo2bo2b3obo2bob2ob3o4b2obo2b
4obo!
The occurrence of the loaf on cap seems to be purely chance. Could you do some apgsearch in this rule?

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Re: B34w7e/S234kqw

Post by Majestas32 » December 20th, 2017, 10:02 pm

LaundryPizza03 wrote: The occurrence of the loaf on cap seems to be purely chance. Could you do some apgsearch in this rule?
https://catagolue.appspot.com/census/b34w7es234kqw/C1

I get ~110 soups/sec when running 2 instances of apgluxe. We have 245 para-loafs on cap (para-loaf on caps?) out of 23,362,867 objects which is 0.00105%; while in b3s23 we have 2,410,264 para-loafs on cap out of 210,892,176,692,510 which is 0.00000114%. Thus they are ~1000x more common in PLLite than Life.

Also this 2221-gen methuselah is common, resulting from multiple 2G collisions.

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2o$o4$4bo$3b2o$4bo!
B7e indeed causes it. Adding S4e makes the rule borderline explode and makes the p88 sparkier; adding B7 turns the T into 4 p8 c/2 orthogonal spaceships and makes it explode.

Though the 64x64 results are probably by chance. My 100x585 takes 11700 gens on Lite and 927 on regular PL.

Hat also seems to be much more common.

@LaundryPizza03 Since you just got apgsearch maybe you could try searching this rule!
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Re: B34w7e/S234kqw

Post by BlinkerSpawn » December 20th, 2017, 10:32 pm

LaundryPizza03 wrote:The occurrence of the loaf on cap seems to be purely chance...
It's not chance, per se:

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x = 9, y = 6, rule = B34w7e/S234kqw
2o$2o$5b2o$5bo$5bo2bo$6b2o!
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Re: B34w7e/S234kqw

Post by Majestas32 » December 20th, 2017, 10:44 pm

BlinkerSpawn wrote:
LaundryPizza03 wrote:The occurrence of the loaf on cap seems to be purely chance...
It's not chance, per se:

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x = 9, y = 6, rule = B34w7e/S234kqw
2o$2o$5b2o$5bo$5bo2bo$6b2o!
Ah! I was wondering what reaction produced it.
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Re: B34w7e/S234kqw

Post by AbhpzTa » December 21st, 2017, 3:57 pm

I don't want to call this (1,1)c/10 p10 mod10 spaceship

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B34w7e/S234kqw
2o$2o$2bo!
"glider" because it isn't a glidesymmetric spaceship.
VW ? WV ? (from PlasmaLife(B34-air/S234-air))


p176 and p88 ant guns:

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x = 70, y = 16, rule = B34w7e/S234kqw
2b2o13bo34b2o13bo$b3o11b2o34b3o11b2o$bo2bo7bobo3b2o31bo2bo7bobo3b2o$bo
b2o12b2o32bob2o12b2o$o11bob2obobo30bo11bob2obobo$ob2o9bo36bob2o9bo$b2o
14b2o32b2o14b2o$17bo49bo$17bo49bo4$53b2o$54bo$53bo$53b2o!
p88 (1,1)c/10_p10_mod10 spaceship gun:

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x = 48, y = 13, rule = B34w7e/S234kqw
4b2o$4b3o$4b3o11b2o$17b2obo$o2bo2b2o12bo$bo2bo3bo7b2obo$bo3bobo8bo2bo
25b2o$3bobo11b3o20b2ob4o$17b2o21bo$40bo6bo$41bobo3bo$42bobo$42bobo!
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Re: B34w7e/S234kqw

Post by Majestas32 » December 21st, 2017, 4:07 pm

How bout just V (or Q)?

Also, c/2 orthogonal p24 block puffer:

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x = 16, y = 4, rule = B34w7e/S234kqw
2b3o6b3o$b2ob2o4b2ob2o$o5bo2bo5bo$obobobo2bobobobo!
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Re: B34w7e/S234kqw

Post by dani » December 21st, 2017, 9:55 pm

Slight tagalong for the c/10:

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x = 7, y = 8, rule = B34w7e/S234kqw
bo$3o$b2o2$3bo2bo$6bo$6bo$3b3o!
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Re: B34w7e/S234kqw

Post by 83bismuth38 » December 21st, 2017, 10:08 pm

sorry for the mix up, it's WV... i'm very inconsistent, aren't I?
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looking to support hive five (n+18) and charity's oboo reaction (2n+18)

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x = 28, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
19bo$3bo15bo4b2o$2bobo14bo4bobo$2bobo20b2o$3bo11b3o2$25b3o$b2o22b3o$o
2bo$b2o12b2o$10b2o2bobo$bo8b2o2b2o$obo7b2o!

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Re: B34w7e/S234kqw

Post by Majestas32 » December 21st, 2017, 10:16 pm

@83bismuth38 or just Q for short.
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Re: PlasmaLifeLite (B34w7e/S234kqw)

Post by Rhombic » December 22nd, 2017, 9:21 am

The g for this rule is 116(.2)±1.5 cells, similar in growth rate to CGoL. Baseline of 600 to 700 cells (I'll check my values for CGoL later, but probably similar). Outliers in growth seem to be uncommon. In any case, I think it's within the right amount of growth for it to be interesting enough without exploding crazily.
On the other hand, why is it related to PlasmaLife? The WV is conserved, but that's a fairly distant relation I think.
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Re: B34w7e/S234kqw

Post by 83bismuth38 » December 22nd, 2017, 11:13 am

Majestas32 wrote:@83bismuth38 or just Q for short.
why Q?
looking to support hive five (n+18) and charity's oboo reaction (2n+18)

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x = 28, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
19bo$3bo15bo4b2o$2bobo14bo4bobo$2bobo20b2o$3bo11b3o2$25b3o$b2o22b3o$o
2bo$b2o12b2o$10b2o2bobo$bo8b2o2b2o$obo7b2o!

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Re: (B34w7e/S234kqw)

Post by Majestas32 » December 22nd, 2017, 1:45 pm

Rhombic wrote:The g for this rule is 116(.2)±1.5 cells, similar in growth rate to CGoL. Baseline of 600 to 700 cells (I'll check my values for CGoL later, but probably similar). Outliers in growth seem to be uncommon. In any case, I think it's within the right amount of growth for it to be interesting enough without exploding crazily.
It actually could be interesting to see the g for 16x16 soups as well as 7x7 since in this rule large patterns tend to explode more proportionally than small patterns. As well, this rule tends to have higher bounding box and stabilization time than CGoL soups, but a much lower density of objects. It's an interesting test case.
Rhombic wrote: On the other hand, why is it related to PlasmaLife? The WV is conserved, but that's a fairly distant relation I think.
Any name suggestions then?
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Re: B34w7e/S234kqw

Post by Majestas32 » December 29th, 2017, 3:55 am

Inefficient diagonal INC2 and DEC21 salvos:

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x = 57, y = 44, rule = B34w7e/S234kqwHistory
bC3b2o15bC$CbC2b2o14bCbC$b2C4bo14b2C$25b2o$25b2o$27bo$15b2o$15b2o$17bo
5$28b2o$28b2o$30bo5$18b2o12b2o$18b2o12b2o$20bo13bo2$37b2o$37b3o$19b2o
17bo$18bo2bo25b2o$17bo29b3o$17bo2bo27bo$18bo$54b2o$54b3o$55bo3$25b2o$
24bo2bo$23bo$23bo2bo12b2o$24bo13bo2bo$37bo$37bo2bo$38bo!
Repeat times 404 and 118.
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Re: B34w7e/S234kqw

Post by AbhpzTa » December 29th, 2017, 1:47 pm

Examples of slow salvos:

Block-to-block
PULL_2.5_SHIFT_1.5
PULL_6_SHIFT_3

Block-to-HF
PULL_0.5_SHIFT_3
PULL_3_SHIFT_7.5
PULL_3_SHIFT_2.5
PULL_8.5_SHIFT_0
PULL_8_SHIFT_2.5

HF-to-block
PUSH_6.5_SHIFT_3
PUSH_3.5_SHIFT_2
PULL_5_SHIFT_3.5
PUSH_4.5_SHIFT_2
PULL_4_SHIFT_3.5
PULL_7.5_SHIFT_1
0_SHIFT_2.5
PUSH_7_SHIFT_7.5
PULL_4.5_SHIFT_10
PULL_14_SHIFT_14.5
PULL_5_SHIFT_6.5
PULL_5_SHIFT_1.5

HF-to-HF
PUSH_2_SHIFT_1
PULL_10_SHIFT_2
PULL_9.5_SHIFT_0.5
PULL_4.5_SHIFT_0.5

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x = 1502, y = 478, rule = B34w7e/S234kqw
64b2o128b2o$64b2o128b2o20$43b2o128b2o$43b2o128b2o$42bo129bo22$26b2o
128b2o$26b2o128b2o$25bo129bo13$b2o$b2o$o2$136b2o$136b2o$135bo64$64b2o
128b2o128b2o128b2o128b2o$64b2o128b2o128b2o128b2o128b2o13$56b2o127b2o$
56b2o127b2o$55bo128bo5$303b2o128b2o128b2o$303b2o128b2o128b2o$302bo129b
o129bo22$286b2o128b2o128b2o$286b2o128b2o128b2o$285bo129bo129bo13$262b
2o$262b2o$261bo262b2o$524b2o$523bo$397b2o$397b2o$396bo58$65bo129bo129b
o129bo129bo129bo129bo129bo129bo129bo129bo129bo$64bobo127bobo127bobo
127bobo127bobo127bobo127bobo127bobo127bobo127bobo127bobo127bobo$64bobo
127bobo127bobo127bobo127bobo127bobo127bobo127bobo127bobo127bobo127bobo
127bobo$65bo129bo129bo129bo129bo129bo129bo129bo129bo129bo129bo129bo2$
60b2o7b2o119b2o7b2o119b2o7b2o119b2o7b2o119b2o7b2o119b2o7b2o119b2o7b2o
119b2o7b2o119b2o7b2o119b2o7b2o119b2o7b2o119b2o7b2o$59bo2bo5bo2bo117bo
2bo5bo2bo117bo2bo5bo2bo117bo2bo5bo2bo117bo2bo5bo2bo117bo2bo5bo2bo117bo
2bo5bo2bo117bo2bo5bo2bo117bo2bo5bo2bo117bo2bo5bo2bo117bo2bo5bo2bo117bo
2bo5bo2bo$60b2o7b2o119b2o7b2o119b2o7b2o119b2o7b2o119b2o7b2o119b2o7b2o
119b2o7b2o119b2o7b2o119b2o7b2o119b2o7b2o119b2o7b2o119b2o7b2o2$65bo129b
o129bo129bo129bo129bo129bo129bo129bo129bo129bo129bo$64bobo127bobo127bo
bo127bobo127bobo127bobo127bobo127bobo127bobo127bobo127bobo127bobo$64bo
bo127bobo127bobo127bobo127bobo127bobo127bobo127bobo127bobo127bobo127bo
bo127bobo$65bo129bo129bo129bo129bo129bo129bo129bo129bo129bo129bo129bo
9$558b2o128b2o$38b2o128b2o128b2o128b2o128b2o128b2o128b2o128b2o128b2o$
38b2o128b2o128b2o128b2o127bo129bo130b2o128b2o128b2o$37bo129bo129bo129b
o389bo129bo129bo3$1343b2o128b2o$1343b2o128b2o$1342bo129bo3$1219b2o$
1219b2o$1218bo6$16b2o128b2o128b2o128b2o909b2o128b2o$16b2o128b2o128b2o
128b2o909b2o128b2o$15bo129bo129bo129bo910bo129bo$1190b2o$1190b2o$1189b
o6$808b2o128b2o128b2o$549b2o128b2o127b2o128b2o128b2o$549b2o128b2o126bo
129bo129bo$548bo129bo6$386b2o$386b2o$385bo3$522b2o128b2o$522b2o128b2o$
521bo129bo652b2o$5b2o1297b2o$5b2o1296bo$4bo2$139b2o128b2o$139b2o128b2o
$138bo129bo1172b2o$1441b2o$1440bo4$106b2o$106b2o$105bo4$632b2o$373b2o
257b2o$245b2o126b2o256bo$245b2o125bo$244bo262b2o$507b2o$506bo9$867b2o
128b2o$867b2o128b2o$866bo129bo17$757b2o$757b2o$756bo8$65bo129bo129bo
129bo$64bobo127bobo127bobo127bobo530b2o$64bobo127bobo127bobo127bobo
530b2o$65bo129bo129bo129bo530bo2$60b2o7b2o119b2o7b2o119b2o7b2o119b2o7b
2o$59bo2bo5bo2bo117bo2bo5bo2bo117bo2bo5bo2bo117bo2bo5bo2bo$60b2o7b2o
119b2o7b2o119b2o7b2o119b2o7b2o$734b2o$65bo129bo129bo129bo278b2o$64bobo
127bobo127bobo127bobo276bo133b2o$64bobo127bobo127bobo127bobo410b2o$65b
o129bo129bo129bo410bo9$38b2o128b2o128b2o128b2o$38b2o128b2o128b2o128b2o
$37bo129bo129bo129bo28$28b2o$28b2o129b2o128b2o128b2o$27bo131b2o128b2o
128b2o$158bo129bo129bo11$132b2o128b2o128b2o$132b2o128b2o128b2o$131bo
129bo129bo18$111b2o$111b2o$110bo$244b2o$244b2o$243bo132b2o$376b2o$375b
o!
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Re: B34w7e/S234kqw

Post by Majestas32 » April 26th, 2023, 7:22 pm

FWKnightship apgsearched this rule in D8_1 and found this new ship (3c/133 diagonal):

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x = 20, y = 20, rule = B34w7e/S234kqw
b2o$o2bo$ob2o$obo$2o$3o$2bo$2bo9$17b2o$12b3ob2obo$14b2o3bo$14b5o!
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Re: B34w7e/S234kqw

Post by C_R_116 » April 29th, 2023, 11:33 am

Simple c/4

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x = 11, y = 10, rule = B34w7e/S234kqw
5bo$4bobo$b2obobob2o$b2obobob2o$4bobo$3b2ob2o$2bobobobo$bo2bobo2bo$o3b
obo3bo$bo7bo!
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