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Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by BlinkerSpawn » December 27th, 2017, 9:14 am

A rule so named for this common still life, which crystallizes from a simple seed:

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x = 15, y = 7, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
3bo$b5o$bo3bo$2obob2o5bobo$bo3bo$b5o$3bo!
A c/2 glider can collide with a snowflake, pushing it back and creating a glider:

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x = 21, y = 7, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
3bo$b5o$bo3bo13b2o$2obob2o12bo$bo3bo13b2o$b5o$3bo!
Feeding this reaction back into itself creates O(sqrt(t)) bounding box growth: (Credit: Danny)

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x = 37, y = 7, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
3bo29bo$b5o25b5o$bo3bo13b2o10bo3bo$2obob2o12bo10b2obob2o$bo3bo13b2o10b
o3bo$b5o25b5o$3bo29bo!
A Z can push the snowflake back, creating a 90/180 degree reflector:

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x = 19, y = 28, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
8bo$6b5o$6bo3bo6b2o$2bo2b2obob2o5bo$3o3bo3bo6b2o$o5b5o$8bo20$13b3o$13b
obo!
Various oscillators: (Credit: Danny, M. I. Wright, and myself)

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x = 25, y = 75, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
7bo$2bo9bo$3o4bo4b3o$o13bo10$2bo3bobo2bo$3o8b3o$o12bo$2b2o6b2o$3bo6bo$
3b2o4b2o6$7bo8bo$2bo18bo$3o4bo8bo4b3o$o22bo8$7bo$2bo10bo$3o4bo5b3o$o
14bo4$5b2o$6bo$6b2o3$15bo$13b3o$13bo$2bo3bobo$3o$o3$8b2o$9bo$9b2o3$11b
2o$12bo$12b2o3$24bo$7bo9bo4b3o$2bo19bo$3o4bo9bo$o3$11b2o$12bo$12b2o!
From top to bottom: p11, p18, p33, p34, p68, p69
Tiny p12 dot puffer: (Credit: Danny)

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x = 7, y = 12, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
o$bo$b2o$2o$4b2o$5b2o$5bo$obo2$4b2o$5bo$3b3o!
Finally, tiny p12 backrake:

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x = 8, y = 13, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
b2o2b2o$2bo3b2o$3o3bo$5bo2$5b2o$6bo$5b2o2$5bo$6bo$6b2o$5b2o!
EDIT: Interesting p316 puffer:

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x = 16, y = 13, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
9b2o2b2o$10bo3b2o$8b3o3bo$13bo2$2o6b2o3b2o$bo6bo5bo$2o6b2o3b2o2$13bo$
14bo$14b2o$13b2o!
EDIT 2/3: p38/44+4N glider guns:

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x = 37, y = 72, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
30b2o$31bo$31b2o3$32bo$30b5o$30bo3bo$29b2obob2o$32bo4$32bobo$32b3o3$
16b2o$7bo7bob2o6b3o6b2o$2bo13b2o7bobo7bo$3o4bo17b3o6b2o$o3$32bo$30b5o$
30bobobo$29b2o3b2o5$31b2o$31bo$30b2o3$31b2o$32bo$32b2o3$33bo$31b5o$31b
o3bo$30b2obob2o$33bo4$32bobo$32b3o3$7bo8b2o$2bo12bob2o6b3o6b2o$3o4bo8b
2o7bobo7bo$o24b3o6b2o4$32bo$30b5o$30bobobo$29b2o3b2o5$31b2o$31bo$30b2o
!
Move the top and left reflectors away from the center by N cells to increase the period by 4N.
EDIT 4: p41+4N glider gun:

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x = 49, y = 48, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
43b2o$44bo$44b2o3$45bo$43b5o$43bo3bo$42b2obob2o$45bo4$45bobo$45b3o16$
16b2o12b2o$7bo7bob2o10b2obo7bo$2bo13b2o12b2o$3o4bo32bo4b3o$o44bobo4$
45bo$42b2obob2o$43bo3bo$43b5o$45bo3$44b2o$44bo$43b2o!
Move the top and left reflectors and the corresponding gliders away from the center by 2N cells to increase the period by 4N.
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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by calcyman » December 27th, 2017, 7:31 pm

I really like this rule! I see that Danny has taken the liberty of Catagoluing it: https://catagolue.appspot.com/census/b2 ... 5ar6i7e/C1

Guns exist for all periods greater than or equal to 34:

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x = 100, y = 68, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
41b2o$42bo$42b2o3$43bo$41b5o$41bo3bo$40b2obob2o$41bo3bo$41b5o11b2o$8bo
34bo13bo$6b5o45b2o$6bo3bo14b2o15b2o$2bo2b2obob2ob3o10bo16bo$3o3bo3bo2b
obo9b2o15b2o12bo$o5b5o43b5o$8bo45bo3bo$53b2obob2o$54bo3bo$54b5o$56bo
34bo$89b5o$56b2o15b2o14bo3bo$56bo16bo10b3ob2obob2o2bo$42bobo11b2o15b2o
9bobo2bo3bo3b3o$42b3o44b5o5bo$91bo4$13b3o$13bobo3$55bobo$55b3o4$49bo$
47b5o32b3o$14b2o15b2o9bobo2bo3bo6b2o15b2o7bobo5b2o$14bo16bo10b3ob2obob
2o4bob2o13bob2o13bob2o$14b2o15b2o14bo3bo6b2o15b2o15b2o$47b5o$14bo34bo$
12b5o$12bo3bo$11b2obob2o$12bo3bo33bo$12b5o25bo5b5o$14bo27b3o3bo3bo2bob
o9b2o15b2o$44bo2b2obob2ob3o10bo16bo$48bo3bo14b2o15b2o$14b2o32b5o$15bo
34bo34bo$15b2o66b5o$83bo3bo$82b2obob2o$83bo3bo$83b5o$85bo3$84b2o$84bo$
83b2o!
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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by KittyTac » December 28th, 2017, 5:24 am

I'm apgsearching this.

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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by dani » December 28th, 2017, 3:13 pm

Ah, yes, this rule. How would one search for a pull reaction that also reflects the glider?

Other than that, this 2c/12 diagonal spaceship popped out of apgsearch:

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x = 4, y = 5, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
bo$3o$3bo2$o2bo!
Pretty much all Z-based things can have each Z reduced to this 4-cell still life (don't know how it slipped past everyone, haha.):

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x = 17, y = 7, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
8bo$6b5o5bo$2o4bo3bo3bo$bo3b2obob2o2b2o$2o4bo3bo$6b5o$8bo!
Also, a fun smaller p18 completely unrelated to the one in the OP:

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x = 13, y = 6, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
b2o$2bo$o4bobo$12bo$10bo$10b2o!
Various oscillators are on catagolue, but this one is my favourite.

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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by KittyTac » December 28th, 2017, 9:11 pm

How to determine who has discovered an object in the Catalogue?

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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by dani » December 28th, 2017, 9:32 pm

KittyTac wrote:How to determine who has discovered an object in the Catalogue?
Replace "object" in the url with "attribute". Please don't ask questions like that on this thread, that should go on general catagolue discussion or even the apgsearch thread. (EDIT: Looking back on it now, that may have come off as rude, deepest apologies)

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This is probably gun-able:

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x = 21, y = 7, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
7bo$5b5o$2o3bo3bo9b2o$bo2b2obob2o8bo$2o3bo3bo9b2o$5b5o$7bo!
I tried but the timing of the reflectors was off.

p35 and p39 activated by r-glider:

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x = 72, y = 24, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
14bo40bo$14bobo38bobo$14b3o38b3o4$22bo40bo$8bo11b5o23bo12b5o$6b5o9bo3b
o3b2o16b5o10bo3bo3b2o$b2o3bo3bo8b2obob2o2bo12b2o3bo3bo9b2obob2o2bo$2bo
2b2obob2o8bo3bo5bo11bo2b2obob2o9bo3bo5bo$o5bo3bo9b5o15bo5bo3bo10b5o$6b
5o5bo5bo23b5o6bo5bo$8bo5b5o29bo6b5o$14bo3bo36bo3bo$13b2obob2o34b2obob
2o$14bo3bo36bo3bo$14b5o36b5o$16bo40bo3$15b2o39b2o$15bo40bo$17bo40bo!
p17:

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x = 9, y = 11, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
3bo$5bo$4b2o$o2$3bobo2bo2$o$4b2o$5bo$3bo!
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D8_1 search was fruitful, here are the results as well as some noodling (there are a bunch of oscillators on the catagolue page. Seems like the only periods missing now are 13, 15, 22, 25, 27-31 until this rule is omniperiodic.):

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x = 54, y = 132, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
5bo2$5bo$4b3o$2obo$o5bo$2obo$4b3o$5bo2$5bo10$6bo2$6bo$5b3o$b2obo$bo5bo
$b2obo$5b3o$6bo2$6bo7$5b3o2$8bo$3bo$3o$obo3bo2bo$3o$3bo$8bo2$5b3o13$2b
o$4bo2$4bo2$4bo2$o4$o2$4bo2$4bo2$4bo$2bo12$25b2o$26bo$26b2o3$26bo$24b
5o$24bo3bo$23b2obob2o$24bo3bo$24b5o$26bo18bo$43b5o$43bo3bo5bo$42b2obob
2o2b3o$43bo3bo3bo$43b5o$45bo$30b2o$31bo$31b2o2$5bo2$5bo$4b3o$2obo$o5bo
$2obo$4b3o$5bo33bo$37b5o$5bo31bo3bo$36b2obob2o$31b2o4bo3bo$31bo5b5o$
30b2o7bo3$38b2o$39bo$39b2o!
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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by toroidalet » December 29th, 2017, 12:06 am

danny wrote:This is probably gun-able:

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rle
p120+12N gun:

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x = 128, y = 40, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
98bo3$15bo102bo$7bo5b5o15bo66bo15b5o5bo$9bo3bo3bo8b2o3b5o62b5o3b2o8bo
3bo3bo$8b2o2b2obob2o8bo3bo3bo9b2o40b2o9bo3bo3bo8b2obob2o2b2o$13bo3bo8b
2o2b2obob2o7b2obo38bob2o7b2obob2o2b2o8bo3bo$13b5o13bo3bo9b2o40b2o9bo3b
o13b5o$15bo15b5o62b5o15bo$33bo66bo3$31bo$98bo11$98bo$25bo2$8bo110bo$o
5b5o16bo72bo16b5o5bo$2bo3bo3bo9b2o3b5o68b5o3b2o9bo3bo3bo$b2o2b2obob2o
9bo3bo3bo9b2o46b2o9bo3bo3bo9b2obob2o2b2o$6bo3bo9b2o2b2obob2o7b2obo44bo
b2o7b2obob2o2b2o9bo3bo$6b5o14bo3bo9b2o46b2o9bo3bo14b5o$8bo16b5o68b5o
16bo$27bo72bo4$98bo!
It's not too useful until we get a use for r-gliders.
Toggle-switch contraption:

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x = 16, y = 50, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
8bo$6bo$6b2o2$8bo$6b5o$6bo3bo$5b2obob2o$6bo3bo$6b5o$8bo3$8b2o$9bo$7bo
6$13b3o$13bobo$15bo10$14bo$13b3o$12bo2bo12$3o$obo$2bo!
Safe repeat time for r-gliders on any side 25
Safe interstream repeat time 37
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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by AbhpzTa » December 29th, 2017, 11:14 am

p25 from Catagolue, reduced:

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x = 11, y = 8, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
10bo$o$7bobo$bo$10bo$2b2o$2bo$4bo!
p30:

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x = 25, y = 25, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
14bo$12bo$12b2o6$11bobo2$o$2bo5bo7bo$b2o19b2o$8bo7bo5bo$24bo2$11bobo6$
11b2o$12bo$10bo!
p30 gun:

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x = 52, y = 68, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
30bo$28bo$28b2o4$28bo$27b3o$28bo2$16bo$14bo3bo4bo9bo$12bo4b2o3b3o7b3o
3b2o$12b2o9bo9bo4bo$40bo2$12bo15bo$10b5o12b3o$10bo3bo13bo$9b2o3b2o$8bo
7bo$o5b3o7b3o$2bo3bo11bo7b2o$b2o2b2o11b2o5bob2o$6bo11bo7b2o$6b3o7b3o$
8bo7bo$9b2o3b2o$10bo3bo8bo$10b5o7b3o$12bo9bobo2bobo$23bo3b3o$41bo$11b
2o26bo$12bo26b2o$10bo30bo2$39bo2$36b2obob2o$37bo3bo$34bo2b5o2bo$34b3o
2bo2b3o$23bo12bo5bo$22b3o5bobobob2o3b2obobo2b2o$22bobo11bo5bo6bo$19bo
3bo10b3o2bo2b3o3bo2bo$34bo2b5o2bo$37bo3bo$36b2obob2o$23bo$23bo15bo$23b
o$11bo25bo$13bo24b2o$12b2o4b3o5b3o4b2o4bo$33bo3bo$35bo$23bo$23bo$23bo
5$22b2o$23bo$21bo!
p33 gun:

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x = 50, y = 54, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
28bo$26bo$26b2o3$27bo$25b5o$25bo3bo$24b2o3b2o7$24b2o3b2o$25bo3bo$25b5o
$27bo3$o7bo6bo6b2o$2bo20bo$b2o5bo6bo6b2o4$26bobo$26b3o2$47b2o$32b3o6b
3o3bo$22bo26bo$21b3o$21bobo$22bo2$19b2o3b2o$20bobobo$20b5o$22bo3$22bo$
20b5o$20bobobo$19b2o3b2o5$22b2o$23bo$21bo!
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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by Saka » December 30th, 2017, 7:13 am

This is a really fun rule.
I was quite surprised to not find this binary counter-esque thing.

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x = 124, y = 9, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
11bo15bo15bo36bo15bo15bo$9b5o11b5o11b5o32b5o11b5o11b5o$3bo5bo3bo5bo5bo
3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo20bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo$b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob
2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o7b2o7b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o$bo
3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo7bo8bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo
3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo$2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o6b2o6b2o
bob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o$bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5b
o5bo3bo16bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo$b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o16b5o11b5o
11b5o11b5o$3bo15bo15bo15bo20bo15bo15bo15bo!

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x = 284, y = 39, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
67bo$65b5o$59bo5bo3bo5bo$57b5o2b2obob2o2b5o$51bo5bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo5bo$
49b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o$43bo5bo3bo3bo3bo5bo5bo3bo3bo3bo5bo$41b
5o2b2obob2o2b5o11b5o2b2obob2o2b5o$35bo5bo3bo3bo3bo5bo15bo5bo3bo3bo3bo
5bo$33b5o2b2obob2o2b5o27b5o2b2obob2o2b5o$27bo5bo3bo3bo3bo5bo31bo5bo3bo
3bo3bo5bo$25b5o2b2obob2o2b5o43b5o2b2obob2o2b5o$19bo5bo3bo3bo3bo5bo47bo
5bo3bo3bo3bo5bo$17b5o2b2obob2o2b5o59b5o2b2obob2o2b5o$11bo5bo3bo3bo3bo
5bo63bo5bo3bo3bo3bo5bo$9b5o2b2obob2o2b5o75b5o2b2obob2o2b5o$3bo5bo3bo3b
o3bo5bo79bo5bo3bo3bo3bo5bo20bo127bo$b5o2b2obob2o2b5o91b5o2b2obob2o2b5o
7b2o7b5o123b5o$bo3bo3bo3bo5bo95bo5bo3bo3bo3bo7bo8bo3bo5bo111bo5bo3bo$
2obob2o2b5o107b5o2b2obob2o6b2o6b2obob2o2b5o107b5o2b2obob2o$bo3bo5bo
111bo5bo3bo16bo3bo3bo3bo5bo95bo5bo3bo3bo3bo$b5o123b5o16b5o2b2obob2o2b
5o91b5o2b2obob2o2b5o$3bo127bo20bo5bo3bo3bo3bo5bo79bo5bo3bo3bo3bo5bo$
158b5o2b2obob2o2b5o75b5o2b2obob2o2b5o$160bo5bo3bo3bo3bo5bo63bo5bo3bo3b
o3bo5bo$166b5o2b2obob2o2b5o59b5o2b2obob2o2b5o$168bo5bo3bo3bo3bo5bo47bo
5bo3bo3bo3bo5bo$174b5o2b2obob2o2b5o43b5o2b2obob2o2b5o$176bo5bo3bo3bo3b
o5bo31bo5bo3bo3bo3bo5bo$182b5o2b2obob2o2b5o27b5o2b2obob2o2b5o$184bo5bo
3bo3bo3bo5bo15bo5bo3bo3bo3bo5bo$190b5o2b2obob2o2b5o11b5o2b2obob2o2b5o$
192bo5bo3bo3bo3bo5bo5bo3bo3bo3bo5bo$198b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o$
200bo5bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo5bo$206b5o2b2obob2o2b5o$208bo5bo3bo5bo$214b5o$
216bo!
If one side is faster than the other the slower side will be verrrry slow.

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x = 156, y = 23, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
67bo$65b5o$59bo5bo3bo5bo$57b5o2b2obob2o2b5o$51bo5bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo5bo$
49b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o$43bo5bo3bo3bo3bo5bo5bo3bo3bo3bo5bo$41b
5o2b2obob2o2b5o11b5o2b2obob2o2b5o$35bo5bo3bo3bo3bo5bo15bo5bo3bo3bo3bo
5bo$33b5o2b2obob2o2b5o27b5o2b2obob2o2b5o$27bo5bo3bo3bo3bo5bo31bo5bo3bo
3bo3bo5bo$25b5o2b2obob2o2b5o43b5o2b2obob2o2b5o$19bo5bo3bo3bo3bo5bo47bo
5bo3bo3bo3bo5bo$17b5o2b2obob2o2b5o59b5o2b2obob2o2b5o$11bo5bo3bo3bo3bo
5bo63bo5bo3bo3bo3bo5bo$9b5o2b2obob2o2b5o75b5o2b2obob2o2b5o$3bo5bo3bo3b
o3bo5bo79bo5bo3bo3bo3bo5bo20bo$b5o2b2obob2o2b5o91b5o2b2obob2o2b5o7b2o
7b5o$bo3bo3bo3bo5bo95bo5bo3bo3bo3bo7bo8bo3bo$2obob2o2b5o107b5o2b2obob
2o6b2o6b2obob2o$bo3bo5bo111bo5bo3bo16bo3bo$b5o123b5o16b5o$3bo127bo20bo
!
Adding a Z to one side is also fun

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x = 81, y = 9, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
11bo15bo15bo$9b5o11b5o11b5o$3bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo20bo$b5o2b2o
bob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o7b2o7b5o$bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo
3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo7bo8bo3bo$2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob
2o6b2o6b2obob2o2bo$bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo16bo3bo3b3o$b5o11b
5o11b5o11b5o16b5o5bo$3bo15bo15bo15bo20bo!
A moving snowflake can clean up dots

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x = 67, y = 7, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
o25bo$2bo3b3o6b2o7b5o$b2o3bobo7bo7bo3bo$6b3o6b2o6b2obob2o$24bo3bo$24b
5o3bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo3bo$26bo!
Random weird fun useless reaction

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x = 44, y = 7, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
7bo27bo$b2o2b5o23b5o$bo3bo3bo13b2o8bo3bo$2o2b2obob2o12bo8b2obob2o2bo$
5bo3bo13b2o8bo3bo3b3o$5b5o23b5o5bo$7bo27bo!
A (Really bad) start on a pulling reaction

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x = 15, y = 18, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
7bo3$7bo$5b5o$b2o2bo3bo2b2o$bo2b2obob2o2bo$2o3bo3bo3b2o$5b5o$7bo7$5b3o
$5bobo!

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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by praosylen » December 30th, 2017, 1:55 pm

Another p34:

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x = 15, y = 25, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
6bo$8bo$7b2o5$6bobo2$o13bo$2bo9bo$b2o9b2o$5bo3bo5$6bobo5$7b2o$8bo$6bo!
P35:

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x = 7, y = 33, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
5bo$3bo$3b2o6$2bobo5$3bo$b5o$bo3bo$2obob2o$bo3bo$b5o$3bo5$2bobo6$3b2o$
3bo$5bo!
P40:

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x = 17, y = 21, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
10bo$8bo$8b2o5$bo13bo$3bo9bo$2b2o9b2o$o6bobo6bo$2b2o9b2o$3bo9bo$bo13bo
5$8b2o$8bo$10bo!
P12:

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x = 17, y = 15, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
11bo$9bo$9b2o2$bo13bo$3bo9bo$2b2o9b2o$o6bobo6bo$2b2o9b2o$3bo9bo$bo13bo
2$9b2o$9bo$11bo!
P24:

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x = 17, y = 17, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
11bo$9bo$9b2o3$bo13bo$3bo9bo$2b2o9b2o$o6bobo6bo$2b2o9b2o$3bo9bo$bo13bo
3$9b2o$9bo$11bo!
Another p12:

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x = 17, y = 23, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
8bo$5bo5bo$7bobo$6b2ob2o$8bo3$8bo$bo13bo$3bo9bo$2b2o9b2o$o6bobo6bo$2b
2o9b2o$3bo9bo$bo13bo$8bo3$8bo$6b2ob2o$7bobo$5bo5bo$8bo!
Yet another p12:

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x = 17, y = 9, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
6bo3bo$bo13bo$3bo9bo$2b2o9b2o$o6bobo6bo$2b2o9b2o$3bo9bo$bo13bo$6bo3bo!
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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by dani » December 30th, 2017, 2:32 pm

Probably extremely inefficient 12g 2c/19 synth:

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x = 56, y = 61, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
20bo$19bobo$19b3o$20bo3$18b2o$b2o4b2o9bo$ob2o4bo9b2o$b2o4b2o2$26b2o$
25b2obo$26b2o8b2o$36bo17b2o$36b2o16bo$54b2o19$10b3o$10bobo4$15bo$14b3o
$14bobo$15bo3$14b3o$14bobo6$11b3o$11bobo5$14b3o$14bobo!
Here are all 2G syntheses EXCLUDING the 2G syntheses that catalyze one glider with the other:

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x = 262, y = 53, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
2o18b2o18b2o18b2o18b2o68b2o18b2o8b2o$bo19bo19bo19bo19bo69bo9b2o8bo9bo$
2o8b2o8b2o18b2o18b2o18b2o68b2o8b2obo6b2o8b2o$10bo19b2o19b2o18b2o88b2o$
10b2o18bo20bo18b2obo17b2o$30b2o19b2o18b2o17b2obo$91b2o78b3o9bo$171bobo
8b3o$182bobo$183bo$2o8b2o13b2o123b2o18b2o18b2o18b2o8b2o$bo9bo14bo124bo
9b2o8bo19bo19bo9bo$2o8b2o13b2o123b2o9bo8b2o9b2o7b2o9b2o7b2o8b2o$161b2o
18bo18b2obo$181b2o18b2o2$27bo197bo$6b3o17b3o195b3o$6bobo7b3o7bobo185b
3o7bobo$16bobo8bo186bobo8bo$150b2o9b2o87b2o8b2o$151bo9bo89bo8bo$150b2o
9b2o87b2o8b2o8$150b2o18b2o$151bo8b2o9bo$150b2o8bo9b2o$160b2o$180b2o$
180bo$180b2o14$150b2o9b2o$151bo8b2obo$150b2o9b2o!
No 2G snowflakes or single gliders, unfortunately :(

EDIT: Funky G->2R:

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x = 14, y = 13, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
13bo$5bobo3bo$b2o2b3o3b2o$2bo$o4bo3$b2o$2bo$o$5b2o$5bo$7bo!
Related p36 gun (should allow for arbitrary periods of 40+8n, too, but also 36 for some reason):

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x = 14, y = 28, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
7bo$5bo$5b2o3$5b3o$4b2ob2o$4bo3bo$4b2ob2o$5b3o6$13bo$5bobo3bo$b2o2b3o
3b2o$2bo$o4bo3$b2o$2bo$o$5b2o$5bo$7bo!

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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by M. I. Wright » December 30th, 2017, 4:25 pm

Another funky G-2R, this one going forward:

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x = 14, y = 16, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
6bo$5bobo$5b3o$6bo5$11b2o$b2o8bo$2bo10bo$o6bo2$9b2o$9bo$11bo!
BlinkerSpawn noted in Discord that both duplicators' 180-degree output can be suppressed, giving a minimum repeat time of 40:

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x = 35, y = 34, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
7bo19bo$6bobo17bobo$6b3o17b3o$7bo19bo15$bo31bo$3bo27bo$2b2o3bo19bo3b2o
$o5bobo17bobo5bo$2bo3b3o17b3o3bo$b2o4bo3b2o9b2o3bo4b2o$11bo11bo$6bo6bo
7bo4bo2$3b2o$4bo17b2o$2bo20bo$21bo$26b2o$26bo$28bo!
Here are a few potential avenues for an R-G demoter:

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x = 51, y = 15, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
o9bo14bo14bo9bo$2bo2bo2bo33bo5bo$b2o5b2o10bo9bo10b2o2bo2b2o$22bo5bo$
21b2o5b2o10bo9bo$4b3o35bo5bo$4bobo34b2o5b2o$6bo3$24b3o$24bobo$26bo17b
3o$44bobo$46bo!
With the left-hand one, I was able to find these two parity-agnostic R-R period doublers:

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x = 33, y = 68, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
11bo19bo$9bo19bo$9b2o18b2o2$12bo19bo$10bo19bo$10b2o18b2o2$bo19bo$3bo2b
o2bo13bo2bo2bo$2b2o5b3o10b2o5b3o$11bo19bo4$b2o7b2o9b2o7b2o$2bo2b3o2bo
11bo2b3o2bo$o4bobo4bo7bo4bobo4bo$7bo17bo14$6bo19bo$5b3o17b3o$5bo2bo15b
o2bo15$5b3o17b3o$5bobo17bobo$5bo21bo14$6bo19bo$5b3o17b3o$4bo2bo17bo2bo
!

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x = 43, y = 79, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
11bo29bo$9bo29bo$9b2o28b2o2$12bo29bo$10bo29bo$10b2o28b2o2$bo29bo$3bo2b
o2bo23bo2bo2bo$2b2o5b3o20b2o5b3o$11bo29bo3$b2o7b2o19b2o7b2o$2bo7bo21bo
7bo$o4b3o4bo17bo4b3o4bo$5bobo27bobo$7bo27bo18$5b3o27b3o$5bobo27bobo$7b
o27bo18$5b3o27b3o$5bobo27bobo$7bo27bo18$5b3o27b3o$5bobo27bobo$7bo29bo!
Minimum repeat time for the first is 33 and for the second 40.

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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by toroidalet » December 31st, 2017, 3:01 pm

I self-corollary sniped: that word is so hard to spell
P120+12N glider gun (EDIT: smaller):

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x = 128, y = 63, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
27bo$25bo$25b2o3$26bo$24b5o$24bo3bo$23b2obob2o$24bo3bo$24b5o$26bo6bo$
31b5o34bo$31bo3bo32b5o$30b2obob2o11b2o18bo3bo5bo$31bo3bo12bo18b2obob2o
2bo$31b5o12b2o18bo3bo3b2o17bo$33bo34b5o$7bo62bo41bo$o6b3o16bo66bo16b3o
6bo$2bo6bo9b2o3b5o62b5o3b2o9bo6bo$b2o2b3ob2o9bo3bo3bo9b2o40b2o9bo3bo3b
o9b2ob3o2b2o$9bo9b2o2b2obob2o7b2obo38bob2o7b2obob2o2b2o9bo$7b3o14bo3bo
9b2o40b2o9bo3bo14b3o$7bo16b5o62b5o16bo$26bo66bo3$28bo62bo6$28bo$26bo$
26b2o3$27bo$25b5o$25bo3bo$24b2obob2o$25bo3bo$25b5o$27bo6bo$32b5o37bo$
32bo3bo35b5o$31b2obob2o17b2o15bo3bo5bo$32bo3bo18bo15b2obob2o2bo$32b5o
18b2o15bo3bo3b2o20bo$34bo37b5o$74bo$o26bo72bo26bo$2bo4bo6b2o9b5o68b5o
9b2o6bo4bo$b2o12bo9bo3bo15b2o34b2o15bo3bo9bo12b2o$7bo6b2o8b2obob2o13b
2obo32bob2o13b2obob2o8b2o6bo$25bo3bo15b2o34b2o15bo3bo$25b5o68b5o$27bo
72bo3$29bo68bo!
Could probably squeeze it another row at the expense of convoluted timing.
More guns:
P37 (A member of the p41+4N family):

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x = 46, y = 46, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
45bo$43bo$43b2o4$43bo$43bo$43bo8$43bobo$43b3o10$7bo30bo$5b5o26b5o2b3o$
3bobo3bo26bo3bo2bobo$b2ob2obob2o8b2o4b2o8b2obob2o$2bo2bo3bo8bob2o2b2ob
o8bo3bobo$o4b5o9b2o4b2o9b5o$7bo30bo4$43bo$43bo$43bo4$43b2o$43bo$45bo!
P40 (p44+4N family with special stabilization):

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x = 34, y = 60, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
32bo$30bo$30b2o5$31bo$30b3o$31bo3$25bo$7bo15b5o$5b5o11bobo3bo$b2obo4bo
9b2ob2obob2o$2bobo2bob2o7bobo2bo3bo3b3o$o3bo4bo9b2o2b5o3bobo$5b5o15bo$
7bo6$32bo$32bo$32bo5$32bo$32bo$32bo8$31bobo$31b3o7$31bo$30b3o$31bo5$
30b2o$30bo$32bo!
P43+4N (doesn't work at p39):

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x = 47, y = 46, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
46bo$44bo$44b2o5$44bo$44bo$44bo11$43b3o$43bobo3$43bobo$43b3o4$8bo10b2o
4b2o10bo6b2o$b2o4b3o9bo6bo9b3o4bob2o$2bo5bo10b2o4b2o10bo6b2o$o4$44bo$
44bo$44bo5$44b2o$44bo$46bo!
To increase the period by 4N move the left and top reflectors outward by 2N cells and move the respective glider pairs outward by N cells
p31 (oscillator):

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x = 13, y = 17, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
5bo$7bo$6b2o4$6bo$o11bo$2bo3bo3bo$b2o7b2o$6bo2$10b2o$10bo$5b2o5bo$6bo$
4bo!
Related p40:

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x = 13, y = 17, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
5bo$7bo$6b2o$bo4$o11bo$2bo3bo3bo$b2o7b2o$6bo2$6bo2$5b2o$6bo$4bo!
Another p20:

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x = 13, y = 18, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
8bo$6bo$6b2o5$o5bo5bo$2bo7bo$b2o3bo3b2o6$6b2o$6bo$8bo!
p16 siderakes:

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x = 8, y = 28, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
b2o$bo$b2o2$2bo$bo3b2o$2o3bo$b2o2b3o10$5b3o$5bo$5b2o$b2o$bo$b2o2$2bo$b
o$2o$b2o!
The top one is smaller but the bottom is probably easier for synthesis.
EDIT 2:
p16 c/2 ship:

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x = 11, y = 17, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
b2o$2o$bo$2bo6bo2$b2o3bo$bo7bo$b2o2$2b2o$2bo7bo$2b2o3bo2$3bo6bo$2bo$b
2o$2b2o!
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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by AforAmpere » January 1st, 2018, 3:39 pm

This rule does not seem to have many speeds for ships. I did find this weird 2c/4, but nothing really interesting.

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x = 13, y = 22, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
5b3o$5bobo$b3o5b3o$bobo5bobo$3bob3obo$6bo3$5b3o$2b3o3b3o$2bobo3bobo2$
6bo$5b3o$2bo3bo3bo$b3o5b3o$o2bob3obo2bo$4bo3bo2$2bo3bo3bo$b3o5b3o$o2bo
5bo2bo!
EDIT, ah, so close:

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x = 15, y = 178, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
$3bo7bo3$3bo7bo$3bo3bo3bo$3bo3bo3bo3$3bobo3bobo$2bo9bo$2bo9bo2$6b3o2$
7bo4$6bobo4$7bo$6b3o$6b3o$5b2ob2o$5bo3bo$5bo3bo2$7bo3$7bo$6b3o$7bo3$6b
3o2$7bo$5bo3bo$4bo2bo2bo3$7bo3$6b3o$6bobo$6b3o2$7bo3$7bo$7bo$7bo3$7bo
2$7bo$6b3o$5b5o$6b3o2$7bo4$6bobo4$7bo$6b3o$6b3o$5b2ob2o$5bo3bo$5bo3bo
2$7bo3$7bo$6b3o$7bo3$6b3o2$7bo$5bo3bo$4bo2bo2bo3$7bo3$6b3o$6bobo$6b3o
2$7bo3$7bo$7bo$7bo3$7bo2$7bo$6b3o$5b5o$6b3o2$7bo4$6bobo4$7bo$6b3o$6b3o
$5b2ob2o$5bo3bo$5bo3bo2$7bo3$7bo$6b3o$7bo3$6b3o2$7bo$5bo3bo$4bo2bo2bo
3$7bo3$6b3o$6bobo$6b3o2$7bo3$7bo$7bo$7bo3$7bo2$7bo$6b3o$5b5o$6b3o2$7bo
4$6bobo!
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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by 83bismuth38 » January 2nd, 2018, 3:22 pm

some random oscillators i gathered- most low period, 5-6, some not:

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x = 13, y = 24, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
o3bo$7bo3bo$2bo6bo$b3o4b3o$9bo2$7bo3bo2$o3bo$7bo3bo$5bo3bo$2bo$9bo2$
12bo$2b3o5bo$3bo3$8b2o$9bo$2b2o3bo2bo$3bo3b3o$bo7bo!

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x = 7, y = 11, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
bo3bo$3bo2$3bo2$o5bo2$3bo2$3bo$bo3bo!
also this still life is more realistic snowflake- they are stuck together, can;t be taken apart without large amount of glider:

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x = 11, y = 11, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
3bo$b5o$bo3bo$2obob2o$bo5bo$b3o3b3o$3bo5bo$4b2obob2o$5bo3bo$5b5o$7bo!
P32:

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x = 16, y = 10, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e:T16,10
2$4bo8bo$3b3o6b3o$4bo8bo!
p68:

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x = 16, y = 16, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
5bo$7bo$6b2o3$15bo$7b3o3bo$6b2ob2o2b2o$b2o3bo3bo$2bo3b2ob2o$o6b3o3$8b
2o$8bo$10bo!
P616:

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x = 41, y = 125, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
23bo$21bo$21b2o5$19b2o3b2o$20bobobo$20b5o$22bo10$21bobo$21b3o2$21bo$
19b5o$19bo3bo$18b2obob2o$19bo3bo$19b5o$14bo6bo$12b5o16bo$7b2o3bo3bo14b
5o$8bo2b2obob2o5b2o6bo3bo2b2o$6bo5bo3bo5b2obo4b2obob2obo$12b5o6b2o6bo
3bo4bo$14bo16b5o$33bo3$21bo$20bobo$20b3o$21bo5$21bo7$20bo$18b5o$18bo3b
o$17b2obob2o$18bo3bo$18b5o$20bo12$19bo16$8bo$6b5o$o5bo3bo4b2o9b3o$2bo
2b2obob2o2b2obo7b2ob2o4bo$b2o3bo3bo4b2o8bo3bo2bo$6b5o7b3o4b2ob2o2b2o$
8bo9bobo5b3o3$16b2o3b2o$17bo3bo$17b5o$19bo13$17b3o$16bo3bo$16bo3bo$15b
2obob2o$16bo3bo$16b5o$18bo3$18b2o$19bo$17bo!
extendable.
looking to support hive five (n+18) and charity's oboo reaction (2n+18)

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x = 28, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
19bo$3bo15bo4b2o$2bobo14bo4bobo$2bobo20b2o$3bo11b3o2$25b3o$b2o22b3o$o
2bo$b2o12b2o$10b2o2bobo$bo8b2o2b2o$obo7b2o!

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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by 83bismuth38 » January 3rd, 2018, 11:38 am

p2 that's useless like every other p2 ever:

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x = 7, y = 9, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
3bo2$b2ob2o$2bobo$o2bo2bo$3ob3o$2bobo2$3bo!
looking to support hive five (n+18) and charity's oboo reaction (2n+18)

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x = 28, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
19bo$3bo15bo4b2o$2bobo14bo4bobo$2bobo20b2o$3bo11b3o2$25b3o$b2o22b3o$o
2bo$b2o12b2o$10b2o2bobo$bo8b2o2b2o$obo7b2o!

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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by toroidalet » January 3rd, 2018, 1:04 pm

I was a fool. The p43+4N guns do work at p39 (but I had to shift the duplicator):

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x = 44, y = 45, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
40bo$42bo$41b2o6$41bobo9$42bo$41b3o$41bobo$42bo3$42bo$41bobo$41b3o$42b
o$7b3o24b3o$6b2ob2o5b2o8b2o5b2ob2o$b2o3bo3bo4b2obo6bob2o4bo3bo$2bo3b2o
b2o5b2o8b2o5b2ob2o$o6b3o24b3o4$41bobo6$41b2o$42bo$40bo!
Unfortunately the reflectors don't work at p35.
In a similar vein, you can make p34 and p36 guns:

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x = 34, y = 71, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
32bo$30bo$30b2o4$31bo$31bo$31bo8$7bo17bo5bobo$5b5o13b5o3b3o$o3bo4bo9bo
b2o4bo$2bobo2bob2o11bo2bob2o$b2obo4bo12bo4bo$5b5o13b5o$7bo17bo2$31bo$
31bo$31bo5$30b2o$30bo$32bo5$33bo$31bo$31b2o4$31b3o$31bobo$31b3o6$8bo$
8b3o14bo5bobo$bo8bo12b5o3b3o$3bo6b2o7bob2o4bo$2b2o6bo11bo2bob2o$8b3o
11bo4bo$8bo14b5o$25bo2$31bo$30b3o$31bo5$30b2o$30bo$32bo!
smaller p34 gun:

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x = 17, y = 34, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
14bo$12bo$12b2o5$10b2o3b2o$11bobobo$11b2ob2o$13bo6$8bo$6b5o3bo$o5bo3bo
2b3o$2bo2b2obob2obobo$b2o3bo3bo3bo$6b5o$8bo3$10b2o3b2o$11bobobo$11b2ob
2o$13bo3$12b2o$12bo$14bo!
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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by praosylen » January 9th, 2018, 5:49 pm

A bunch of oscillators, periods 43, 41, 39, 76, 33, 16, and a bonus p2, if I'm remembering right:

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x = 145, y = 49, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
120bo3$115bo9bo$15bo101bo5bo$13bo81bo20b2o5b2o$13b2o20bo7bo25bo$37bo3b
o25bo52bo$36b2o3b2o24b2o2$138bo$140bo$bo21bo4bo21bo4bo21bo4bo21bo4bo
10bo10bo7b2o$3bo17bo8bo17bo8bo17bo8bo17bo8bo17bo$2b2o17b2o6b2o17b2o6b
2o17b2o6b2o8bo8b2o6b2o5bo5bo5b2o9bo$o3bobo4bobo4bobo3bo2bo3bobo4bobo4b
obo3bo2bo3bobo4bobo4bobo3bo2bo3bo2bo9bo2bo3bo2bo7b3o3b3o7bo2bo3b2o3bo$
2b2o17b2o6b2o17b2o6b2o17b2o6b2o8bo8b2o6b2o5bo5bo5b2o9bo$3bo17bo8bo17bo
8bo17bo8bo17bo8bo17bo$bo21bo4bo21bo4bo21bo4bo21bo4bo10bo10bo7b2o$140bo
$138bo2$36b2o3b2o24b2o$37bo3bo25bo52bo$13b2o20bo7bo25bo$13bo81bo20b2o
5b2o$15bo101bo5bo$115bo9bo3$120bo12$12bo$8bo3bo3bo$12bo$9bob3obo$12bo$
8bo3bo3bo$12bo!
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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by Rhombic » January 31st, 2018, 5:47 am

It seems that interest has died off pretty soon. I still think this rule has great potential for engineered circuits.
Are there any snowflake-pull reactions?
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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by Naszvadi » January 31st, 2018, 7:12 am

Rhombic wrote:It seems that interest has died off pretty soon. I still think this rule has great potential for engineered circuits...
Yes, despite the small and orthogonal p2 glider, its guns, eaters, stable reflectors and signal duplicators etc. it would be easy to construct complex patterns. Probably the audience are keeping in mind and in scope that there are even outer-totalistic Life-like rules without proofs for availability for arbitrary computations :mrgreen:

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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by BlinkerSpawn » January 31st, 2018, 9:00 am

Naszvadi wrote:Probably the audience are keeping in mind and in scope that there are even outer-totalistic Life-like rules without proofs for availability for arbitrary computations :mrgreen:
The proofs of this are exactly the same as in Life and apply to all rules with guns and a clean annihilation reaction.

What I think is going on is that we're finding so many rules with dynamics similar to this rule that the threshold for lasting interest keeps being pushed higher and higher.
We build the oscillators, we construct the guns, we search for some ships, and we move on to the next challenge.
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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by 2718281828 » January 31st, 2018, 1:29 pm

And interesting side-rake/puffers:

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x = 23, y = 14, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
$6bo9bo$4bobo4bo4bobo$4b3o4bo4b3o3$10b3o$10b3o$11bo$9bo3bo$7bobo3bobo$
7b3o3b3o!

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x = 8, y = 14, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
3$2b3o$4bo$3b2o2$2b2o$3bo$2b2o2$3b2o$4bo$2b3o!

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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by 2718281828 » February 1st, 2018, 6:16 am

I did some soup search on several symmetries, but most extensively on D4_+1 and got some nice results.

Most importantly I found a new reflector (as part of an oscillator). Now we have 6 (of 2 general types) reflectors:

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x = 43, y = 101, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
8$26b2o$27bo$26b2o4$29bo$31bo$30b2o$28bo$35b2o$35bo$35b2o$28bo$30b2o$
31bo$29bo6$31b2o$31bo$30b2o$28bo$35b2o$35bo$35b2o$28bo$30b2o$31bo$31b
2o5$29bo$27b5o3b2o$27bo3bo3bo$23bo2b2obob2o2b2o$21b3o3bo3bo$21bo5b5o$
29bo10$29bo$27b5o3b2o$21bo5bo3bo3bo$23bo2b2obob2o2b2o$22b2o3bo3bo$27b
5o$29bo8$29bo$27b5o$27bo3bo3b2o$23bo2b2obob2o2bo$21b3o3bo3bo3b2o$21bo
5b5o$29bo10$29bo$27b5o$21bo5bo3bo3b2o$23bo2b2obob2o2bo$22b2o3bo3bo3b2o
$27b5o$29bo!
Most importantly, the new reflector(s) reflect(s) the glider colour preserving.

Thus, this reflector allows many nice things. E.g. the p39+4N gun (above) can be made much smaller:

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x = 69, y = 114, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
5$52b2o$53bo$53b2o3$54bo$52b5o$52bo3bo$51b2obob2o$54bo4$54bobo$54b3o
16$25b2o12b2o$16bo7bob2o10b2obo7bo$11bo13b2o12b2o$9b3o4bo32bo4b3o$9bo
44bobo4$54bo$51b2obob2o$52bo3bo$52b5o$54bo3$53b2o$53bo$52b2o3$52bo3bo$
49bo9bo$51bo5bo$50b2o5b2o$31bo$33bo$32b2o$30bo$38b2o$37b2obo7bo$38b2o$
30bo17bo4b3o$32b2o19bobo$33bo$31bo2$53bo$50b2obob2o$51bo3bo$51b5o$53bo
3$52b2o$52bo$54bo4$52bo3bo$49bo9bo$51bo5bo$50b2o5b2o2$30bo$32bo$31b2o$
29bo$38b2o$37b2obo7bo$38b2o$29bo18bo4b3o$31b2o20bobo$32bo$30bo2$53bo$
50b2obob2o$51bo3bo$51b5o$53bo3$52b2o$52bo$54bo!
But it also allows for small families of oscillators with adjustable an even period:

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x = 90, y = 34, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
5$5b2o2b2o12b2o3b2o20b2o4b2o14b2o6b2o$5bo4bo12bo5bo20bo6bo14bo8bo$4b2o
4b2o10b2o5b2o18b2o6b2o12b2o8b2o$2bo10bo6bo11bo14bo12bo8bo14bo$7b2o16b
2o22b2o6b2o13b2o6b2o$8bo17bo22bo8bo13bo8bo$7b2o16b2o22b2o6b2o13b2o6b2o
$2bo10bo6bo11bo14bo12bo8bo14bo$4b2o4b2o10b2o5b2o18b2o6b2o12b2o8b2o$5bo
4bo12bo5bo20bo6bo14bo8bo$5b2o2b2o12b2o3b2o20b2o4b2o14b2o6b2o3$4bo6bo
11bo7bo$6bo2bo15bo3bo$5b2o2b2o13b2o3b2o17bo10bo10bo12bo$3bo8bo9bo9bo
17bo6bo14bo8bo$8b2o17b2o20b2o6b2o12b2o8b2o$9bo18bo18bo12bo8bo14bo$8b2o
17b2o20b2o6b2o12b2o8b2o$3bo8bo9bo9bo16bo8bo12bo10bo$5b2o2b2o13b2o3b2o
18b2o6b2o12b2o8b2o$6bo2bo15bo3bo17bo12bo8bo14bo$4bo6bo11bo7bo17b2o6b2o
12b2o8b2o$50bo6bo14bo8bo$48bo10bo10bo12bo!
So we have p12+4N oscillators (one glider version), such as p10+4N oscillators (two glider versions), as we have many known p2, p4, p6, p8 oscillators, we have oscillators for all even periods.
However, combining it with the odd reflector (colour changing reflector), we get p37+4N oscillators (with 1 glider), and p35+4N oscillators (with 2 gliders):

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x = 101, y = 63, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
3$42bo32bo$40bo32bo$40b2o31b2o$27bo15bo15bo16bo$25b5o2b2o23b5o2b2o$19b
o5bo3bo2bo18bo5bo3bo2bo$21bo2b2obob2ob2o19bo2b2obob2ob2o$20b2o3bo3bo
13bo8b2o3bo3bo14bo$25b5o10b2o15b5o11b2o$27bo12bo18bo13bo$42bo32bo4$41b
o$39bo34bo$27bo11b2o31bo$25b5o12bo16bo12b2o$19bo5bo3bo3b2o22b5o13bo$
21bo2b2obob2o2bo17bo5bo3bo3b2o$20b2o3bo3bo3b2o18bo2b2obob2o2bo$25b5o
12bo9b2o3bo3bo3b2o$27bo11b2o16b5o13bo$39bo19bo12b2o$41bo30bo$74bo5$7bo
39bo6bo41bo$9bo17bo17bo10bo18bo18bo$8b2o35b2o8b2o37b2o$6bo15bo9bo15bo
4bo16bo9bo16bo$15b2o3b5o2bo2b5o3b2o23b2o3b5o2bo2b5o3b2o$16bo3bo3bo5bo
3bo3bo25bo3bo3bo5bo3bo3bo$15b2o2b2obob2o3b2obob2o2b2o23b2o2b2obob2o3b
2obob2o2b2o$6bo13bo3bo5bo3bo13bo4bo14bo3bo5bo3bo14bo$8b2o10b5o2bo2b5o
10b2o8b2o11b5o2bo2b5o11b2o$9bo12bo9bo12bo10bo13bo9bo13bo$7bo39bo6bo41b
o$27bo47bo5$8bo18bo18bo8bo19bo19bo$10bo33bo12bo35bo$9b2o11bo9bo11b2o
10b2o12bo9bo12b2o$7bo12b5o2bo2b5o12bo6bo13b5o2bo2b5o13bo$15b2o3bo3bo5b
o3bo3b2o23b2o3bo3bo5bo3bo3b2o$16bo2b2obob2o3b2obob2o2bo25bo2b2obob2o3b
2obob2o2bo$15b2o3bo3bo5bo3bo3b2o23b2o3bo3bo5bo3bo3b2o$7bo12b5o2bo2b5o
12bo6bo13b5o2bo2b5o13bo$9b2o11bo9bo11b2o10b2o12bo9bo12b2o$10bo33bo12bo
35bo$8bo18bo18bo8bo19bo19bo!
Thus, we have oscillators for all odd periods larger than 33 and all larger periods oscillators are known. For small periods, we know oscillators for all periods (smallest known example listed until p50):

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x = 179, y = 222, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
2$100bo$102bo3bo$66bo8bo25b2o26bo19bo19bo$64b3o6bo25bo13bo17bo35bo$64b
o8b2o33bo21b2o35b2o$39bo27bo37bob2o19bo20bo20bo$33b2o3b3o3b2o62bo28b2o
6bo7bo6b2o$10bo23bo4bo4bo22bo31bo13bo23bo23bo$32bo13bo17bo8b2o26b2o34b
2o6bo7bo6b2o$64b3o6bo28bo3bo21bo20bo20bo$66bo8bo24bo29b2o35b2o$131bo
35bo$129bo19bo19bo10$68b2o29bo11bo$68bo2bo29bo7bo26bo26bo$67b2ob2o28b
2o7b2o27bo22bo$11bo23bo7bo28bo25bo13bo24b2o22b2o$9b3o27bo67b2o26bo28bo
$9bo26bo2bo23bo3bo4bo2bo32bo39bo2bo$11bo27bo67b2o$10b2o23bo7bo28bo25bo
13bo35bo2bo$67b2ob2o28b2o7b2o24bo28bo$68bo2bo29bo7bo27b2o22b2o$68b2o
29bo11bo26bo22bo$136bo26bo10$37bo3bo59bo7bo52bo$34bo4bo4bo58bo3bo52bo$
36bo5bo31bo25bo9bo49b2o$35b2o2bo2b2o30b3o28bo57bo$5bo4b2o52bo11bo18bo
19bo41b2o$7bo2bo22bo5bo5bo27bo31bo31bo7bo11bo$6b2o4bo22bo7bo22bo37b3o
32bo17b2o$10b3o21b2o7b2o28bo31bo32b2o5bo17bo$10bo28bo24bo11bo18bo19bo
44b2o$37bo3bo32b3o28bo54bo$74bo25bo9bo51bo$103bo3bo$101bo7bo13$37bo29b
o3bo75bo3bo$13bo25bo99bo19bo$11bo26b2o97bo23bo$9bob2o21bo8bo16bo8bo8bo
53bo33bo$40bo58b2o4bo5b2o36bo$35bo30bobobobo27bo10bo23bobo23bobo$7b2ob
o29bo57bo6bo7bo35bo$8bo25bo8bo16bo8bo8bo53bo33bo$6bo31b2o97bo23bo$39bo
99bo19bo$37bo29bo3bo75bo3bo11$30b2o12bo$30bo13b3o$29b2o15bo56bo3bo$33b
o116bo$7bo3bo27bobobo56bo9bo41bo$9bo23bo40bo76b2o$4bo9bo49bo34bo2bo5bo
2bo33bo$6bo5bo20bo37bobo76bo$5b2o2bo2b2o51bo30bo5bo5bo5bo$74bo75bo$9bo
32bo23b2o31bo2bo5bo2bo33bo10bo$67bo83b2o$42bo22bo34bo9bo41bo$9bo22bobo
bo113bo$7bo3bo30bo60bo3bo$29bo15b2o$29b3o13bo$31bo12b2o10$101bo12bo36b
o3bo$35bo31b2o34bo8bo34bo11bo$37bo29bo2bo31b2o8b2o35bo7bo$11bo24b2o31b
2o29bo14bo32b2o7b2o$6bo56bo46b2o41bo$12bo23bo74bo$7bobo22bo3b2o3bo22bo
bo7bo35b2o36b2o3bo3b2o$36bo63bo14bo33bo7bo$6bo56bo38b2o8b2o33bo5bo5bo$
36b2o31b2o32bo8bo38bo3bo$37bo29bo2bo30bo12bo$35bo31b2o9$71bo$69bo$64bo
4b2o16bo18bo18bo41bo$66bo22bo33bo41bo$36bo28b2o6bo14b2o33b2o40b2o$38bo
47bo19bo19bo41bo$37b2o28bobobo22b2o6bo7bo6b2o44bo2bo$33bo60bo23bo22bo
7bo17bo$5bo5bo53b2o6bo20b2o6bo7bo6b2o24bo19bo2bo$36bobo2bo24bo19bo19bo
19bo15b2o5bo18bo$3bo8bo51bo4b2o17b2o33b2o40b2o$6bobobo22bo35bo19bo33bo
41bo$37b2o32bo15bo18bo18bo41bo$38bo$36bo9$107bo$63bo10bo34bo$65bo6bo
38b2o33bo15bo$64b2o6b2o38bo35bo11bo$8bo53bo12bo36b3o32b2o11b2o$6bo26bo
6bo29b2o31bo10bo30bo17bo$6b2o3bo59bo86b2o$34bobobo31b2o32bo5bobo46bo$
9bo2bo49bo12bo82b2o$33bo6bo23b2o6b2o29bo10bo30bo17bo$9bo55bo6bo39b3o
32b2o11b2o$63bo10bo37bo35bo11bo$111b2o33bo15bo$109bo$107bo6$68bo3bo$
70bo2$68bo3bo2$7bo3b2o47bo19bo37bo11bo21bo21bo$9bo2bo19bo29bo15bo37bo
15bo39bo$8b3ob2o20bo6bo19b2o15b2o36b2o13b2o39b2o$33b2o6bo2bo74bo9bo22b
o22bo$12bo28bo23bobobobobobo36b2o26b2o6bo7bo6b2o$45bo48bo7bo9bo27bo23b
o$61b2o15b2o16bo15b2o26b2o6bo7bo6b2o$62bo15bo16b2o5bo16bo9bo22bo22bo$
60bo19bo35b2o13b2o39b2o$116bo15bo39bo$68bo3bo45bo11bo21bo21bo2$70bo$
68bo3bo7$136bo30bo$105bo3bo28bo26bo$66bo31bo17bo20b2o26b2o$10bo57bo27b
o21bo16bo32bo$8b3o25bo30b2o22bo15bo15bo26bo2bo$8bo54bo12bo30bo$42bo51b
obo21bobo29bo2bo$31bo32bo3bo4bobo31bo27bo32bo$9bo2bo20bobobobo51bo15bo
15bo13b2o26b2o$8b3o21b2o29bo12bo19bo21bo19bo26bo$67b2o29bo17bo19bo30bo
$68bo36bo3bo$7bo3bo54bo!
Moreover, some other discoveries, a small direct p61, p45, p36 and two p19 guns (all not adjustable, the 10 cell gun was already known):

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x = 25, y = 97, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
3$14bo$16bo$12bo2b2o$10b3o$10bo$13bo2$13bo$10bo$10b3o$12bo2b2o$16bo$
14bo5$13b2o$10bo3bo$12bob2o$11b2o$7bo2$8bobo6bo2$7bo$11b2o$12bob2o$10b
o3bo$13b2o5$15b2o$13bo2bo$13b2ob2o$7bo7bo2$11bobo2$7bo7bo$13b2ob2o$13b
o2bo$15b2o7$17bo$14bo2$15bo2$15bo2$11bo3bo4$11bo3bo2$15bo2$15bo2$14bo$
17bo5$15b2o$15bo2bo$17b2o3$10bobobo2$9bo2$16bo5$10bobo$10b3o!
EDIT1:
Another colour changing reflector with just 8 cells (see top):

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x = 20, y = 110, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
2$11bo$9bo$4bo$14b2o$7bo2bo3bo$14b2o$4bo$9bo$11bo7$5b2o$6bo$5b2o4$8bo$
10bo$9b2o$7bo$14b2o$14bo$14b2o$7bo$9b2o$10bo$8bo6$10b2o$10bo$9b2o$7bo$
14b2o$14bo$14b2o$7bo$9b2o$10bo$10b2o5$8bo$6b5o3b2o$6bo3bo3bo$2bo2b2obo
b2o2b2o$3o3bo3bo$o5b5o$8bo10$8bo$6b5o3b2o$o5bo3bo3bo$2bo2b2obob2o2b2o$
b2o3bo3bo$6b5o$8bo8$8bo$6b5o$6bo3bo3b2o$2bo2b2obob2o2bo$3o3bo3bo3b2o$o
5b5o$8bo10$8bo$6b5o$o5bo3bo3b2o$2bo2b2obob2o2bo$b2o3bo3bo3b2o$6b5o$8bo!
This allows now for ridiculously small oscillators of period p29+4N (2gliders shuttle, with population 14!) and p31+4N (1 glider shuttle):

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x = 68, y = 37, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
4$21bo21bo$15bo3bo16bo4bo$19b2o20b2o$8bo13bo6bo14bo2$9bobo4bo13bobo4bo
2$8bo13bo6bo14bo$19b2o20b2o$15bo3bo16bo4bo$21bo21bo11$11bo8bo26bo10bo
2$4bo22bo12bo24bo2$5bobo4bo6bo4bobo14bobo4bo8bo4bobo2$4bo22bo12bo24bo
2$11bo8bo26bo10bo!

So some of the minimal oscillators above, have a smaller version. Also some guns can be made smaller using this technology.

EDIT1.2:
The complete list of known 180° G reflectors:

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x = 32, y = 98, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
6$17b2o$18bo$17b2o4$21bo$19b5o$19bo3bo$18b2obo$19bo$17bo7b2o$17b3o5bo$
19bo5b2o$19b2o4$19bo$21bo$20b2o$18bo$25b2o$25bo$25b2o$18bo$20b2o$21bo$
19bo5$20bo$16bo5bo$14b3o4b2o$14bo$25b2o$16bo8bo$25b2o$14bo$14b3o4b2o$
16bo5bo$20bo7$22bo$20bo$15bo$25b2o$18bo2bo3bo$25b2o$15bo$20bo$22bo8$
19bo$17b5o$11bo5bo3bo3b2o$13bo2b2obob2o2bo$12b2o3bo3bo3b2o$17b5o$19bo
7$19bo$17b5o3b2o$11bo5bo3bo3bo$13bo2b2obob2o2b2o$12b2o3bo3bo$17b5o$19b
o!
The upper one is p2, the other ones are stable. The p2 is very fast, the turning reaction requires only 4 ticks, so it allows for a p8 glider shuttle:

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x = 12, y = 13, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
4bo$2b5o$2bo3bo$b2obo$2bo5b2o$o5bo2bo$3o6b3o$2bo3bo4bo$2b2o5bo$7bob2o$
5bo3bo$5b5o$7bo!


EDIT2:
As mentioned by danny for the synthesis of the 12 glider 2c/19 spaceship, it seems that synthesis of still lifes is hard, as no still life (except 1 single cell) can be created by two gliders.

However, I gathered a few synthesis of objects:

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x = 147, y = 219, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
8$31bo$30bobo$30b3o$31bo6b2o29b2o$37b2obo27b2obo$19b2o17b2o29b2o$20bo$
19b2o$30b3o24b3o21b2o3b2o$30bobo24bobo21bo4bo$59bo23bo2b2o14$88b2o3bo$
87bob2o$88b2o$16bobo54b2o5b2o11bo2b2o$16b3o39bobo13bo5bo15bo$40b2o16b
3o12b2o5b2o14b2o$33b2o5bo52bo$32bob2o4b2o$33b2o61bo$19bo39bo20bo11b2o$
18b3o70bob2o$18bobo14bo56b2o3bo$19bo34b2o25bo$37bo17bo3bo38bo$54b2o26b
o$61bo2$98bo$97b3o$97bobo$98bo2$25b2o$18b2o4b2obo$19bo5b2o$18b2o10$21b
o$20bobo$20b3o$21bo2$38b2o5b2o$39bo4b2obo11b2o$38b2o5b2o13bo7b2o$23b2o
34b2o8bo$16b2o4b2obo42b2o5b2o4b2o$17bo5b2o49b2obo3bo$16b2o22bo34b2o4b
2o$39b3o$39bobo$40bo8$39bo$17b2o18bobo$18bo18b3o$17b2o36bobo$25b3o27b
3o$25bo15bo$25b2o3$52bobo$52b3o4$18b2o34bo$19bo32b5o$18b2o32bo3bo$24bo
26b2obo$22bo29bo$22b2o28b2o6$26bobo$26b3o4$40b2o$41bo5bo$40b2o$23b2o3b
2o$24bo2b2obo6b2o5bo$23b2o3b2o8bo$37b2o2$51bo$47b2o$24bo23bo$22bo23bo$
22b2o22b2o4$102bobo$102b3o3$99bobo$99b3o3$13bobo$13b3o$59bobo35bo$59b
3o20b2o5b2o$26bo2bo2bo17bo2bo2bo10bo2bo2bo3bo4bo6bo16bo$82b2o5b2o$98b
2o25b2o$13b3o37bo16bo28bo26bo$13bobo35b5o12b5o3bo20b5o9b2o11b5o$20b2o
29bo3bo2b3o7bo3bo24bo3bo8bob2o10bo3bo$21bo7b2o19b2obo4bobo6b2obo25b2ob
o11b2o5b2o3b2obo$20b2o8bo20bo16bo28bo21bo4bo$29b2o5b2o4b2o7b2o15b2o27b
2o19b2o4b2o$35b2obo3bo$36b2o4b2o2$117bobo$117b3o3$114bobo$114b3o3$13bo
bo$13b3o$60bobo49bo$60b3o23b2o5b2o5b2o$31bo2bo2bo12bo2bo2bo15bo2bo2bo
4bo2bo6bo6bo20bo$86b2o5b2o5b2o$113b2o$13b3o37bo21bo13b2o23bo$13bobo35b
5o17b5o4bo6bo22b5o$42b2o7bo3bo3b3o11bo3bo11b2o21bo3bo$33b2o7bo10bob2o
2bobo13bob2o35bob2o$33bo8b2o11bo21bo38bo$20b2o4b2o5b2o19b2o20b2o37b2o$
21bo3bob2o$20b2o4b2o13$125b2o$66bobo57bo$66b3o56b2o2$130bo$15bobo$15b
3o$31bo20bo14bo32bo$118b2o$25bobo91bo2bo7b2o$25b3o15b2o26b2o45b2o10bo$
30bo13bo2bo3bo11bo2bo3b2obo16b2o4b2o3b2o20bo4b3ob2o$14b3o26b2o26b2o18b
o5bo2b2obo24bo3bo$14bobo73b2o4b2o3b2o19bo7b3o$61bo68bo$46bo$24b3o94b3o
$24bobo94bobo2$45b3o$45bobo!
We have 4 gliders for the p4 spaceship (the R) and 12 gliders for the c/6 (p12) diagonal spaceship.
3 gliders for a snowflake and a 1/2-snowflake which is optimal.
4 gliders for the 3/4 snowflake, 5 gliders (1G+1R) for the 4 cell eater, 6 gliders for the 5 cell eater (the Z) and 10 gliders for the carrier.
12 gliders for the 'extended' 3/4 snowflake, and 14 for the 7-bit still life (the W heptomino). 8 gliders for the second most common 7bit still life (point symmetric 4-bit still life). And 8 gliders for a quite complex still life: two stacked W.
Everything which requires more than 3 gliders might be improved.

EDIT3:
A clean p12 R-rake and a p24 c/2 ship (with a relative large spark, based on a p12 Z-puffer):

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x = 60, y = 80, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
15$24bo$23b3o2bo$22bo2bob3o$27bobo$28bo$30b3o$27bo2bobo$32bo$26bo$25b
3o$26bo5$30b3o$32bo$24bo6b2o2$19b3o$19bobo5b3o$19bo7bobo$29bo19$47bo$
6bo16b3o3bo11b3o2b3o$5b3o2b3o10bobo2b3o10bobobo2bo$5bo2bobobo12bo2bobo
$29bo2b3o$32bobo11b3o$5b3o20bo5bo8bo2bobo$5bobo2bo16b3o18bo$5bo22bo11b
2o$12b2o26bo$13bo26b2o$12b2o12b2o$26bo9b2o$16b2o7b2o9bo$17bo18b2o$16b
2o$32b2o$20b2o4b2o4bo$21bo4bo5b2o$20b2o3b2o$28b2o$28bo$28b2o!
and a p2 wickstretcher, laying 1/2-snowflakes close to each other so that they become p2 oscillating:

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x = 46, y = 14, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
3$3b2o$4bo$3b2o$10b2o$11bo$5bobo2b2o2$11b2o$12bo$10b3o!
Some O(n/log(n)) growth:

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x = 23, y = 13, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
2bo$bo$2o19bo$b2o16bo$19b2o$22bo$b2o2bobo3b2o$bo10bo$b2o8b2o$6bo15bo$
5bo13b2o$4b2o13bo$5b2o14bo!
a quadratic growth pattern:

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x = 59, y = 62, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
30bo$24b3o2b3o$24bobo2bo2bo2$21bo$20b3o$20bo2bo$44bo$46bo$45b2o5$42b2o
3b2o$43bobobo$43b5o$45bo$31b3o$31bobo16b3o$41b2o6b2ob2o2b2o$41bo7bo3bo
2bo$41b2o6b2ob2o4bo$50b3o2$43b3o$19bo11b3o9bobo$18b3o9b2ob2o$18bobo9bo
3bo$19bo10b2ob2o$31b3o2$42b2o3b2o$32b2o9bobobo$33bo9b5o$31bo13bo3$45b
2o$46bo$44bo3$19bo$18b3o$8bo9bobo5bo$6b3o5b2o3bo4b3o$o5bo6bob2o7bo8bo$
2bo2bobo6b2o7bobo5bo$b2o3bo17bo6b2o$6b3o15b3o$8bo10bo6bo$17b5o$17bo3bo
$16b2obob2o$17bo3bo$17b5o$19bo2$19b2o$20bo$18bo!
and a natural (C4_4 soup) O(sqrt(n)) pattern with 28 cells:

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x = 42, y = 42, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
32bo$28bo2$28bo3$26bo$28bo2$o4$bobo3bo4bobo12bobo2$6bo11$35bo2$12bobo
12bobo4bo3bobo4$41bo2$13bo$15bo3$13bo2$13bo$9bo!
EDIT4:
A G to 2G signal converter (a splitter), unfortunately not a stable one, only a p191:

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x = 81, y = 97, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
71bo$69b5o$69bo3bo$64b2o2b2obob2o$65bo3bo3bo$63bo5b5o$71bo2$8bo$6b5o$
6bo3bo$b2o2b2obob2o$2bo3bo3bo$o5b5o$8bo3$38bo3bo3$22b2o16bo$23bo$23b2o
12bo5bo$40bo$36bo7bo$24bo$22b5o$22bo3bo$21b2obob2o$22bo3bo$22b5o$24bo
14bobo$39b3o$18b2o$17bob2o$18b2o6$57bo$55b5o6bo3bo$55bo3bo3bo9bo$54b2o
bob2o2b3o5bo$55bo3bo5bo5b2o$55b5o$14bo42bo$12b5o$12bo3bo$11b2obob2o13b
o$12bo3bo12bo$12b5o2b2o8b2o$14bo5bo$18bo4bo2$14b2o$14bo4b2o$16bo3bo$
18bo$23b2o$24bo6bo$22bo6b5o$29bo3bo$24b2o2b2obob2o$25bo3bo3bo$23bo5b5o
$31bo19bo$36b2o5b2o4b5o$37bo5bo5bo3bo$35bo9bo2b2obob2o$38bo3bo6bo3bo$
49b5o$51bo2$59bo$51b2o4b5o$51bo5bo3bo$50b4o2b2obob2o$53bo3bo3bo$51bo5b
5o$59bo17bo$75b5o$75bo3bo$68bo5b2obob2o$67b3o5bo3bo$67bobo5b5o$68bo8bo
2$64bo7bo$68bo8b2o$65bo5bo5bo$79bo$68bo3$66bo3bo!
However, signal converter with other (larger) periods are possible. For a stable G to 2G we require at least either a stable 90° R reflector, or a stable R to G converter.
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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by Rhombic » February 6th, 2018, 6:19 pm

Spaceship in a super-close Snowflakes relative:

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x = 17, y = 117, rule = B2ci3ai4ckry5ejk6ik78/S02ae3-cnry4cijqz5-ny6ik7
14bo$11bob2o$10b4o$11b3ob2o$10b3ob2o$12bo3bo22$5b2o$6bo$5b2o4$8bo$10bo
$9b2o$7bo$14b2o$14bo$14b2o$7bo$9b2o$10bo$8bo6$10b2o$10bo$9b2o$7bo$14b
2o$14bo$14b2o$7bo$9b2o$10bo$10b2o5$8bo$6b5o3b2o$6bo3bo3bo$2bo2b2obob2o
2b2o$3o3bo3bo$o5b5o$8bo10$8bo$6b5o3b2o$o5bo3bo3bo$2bo2b2obob2o2b2o$b2o
3bo3bo$6b5o$8bo8$8bo$6b5o$6bo3bo3b2o$2bo2b2obob2o2bo$3o3bo3bo3b2o$o5b
5o$8bo10$8bo$6b5o$o5bo3bo3b2o$2bo2b2obob2o2bo$b2o3bo3bo3b2o$6b5o$8bo!
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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by 2718281828 » February 8th, 2018, 1:52 pm

I found a relatively simple 90° R to G reflector:

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x = 48, y = 23, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
4$36bo$b2o16b3o12b5o$2b2o17bo12bo3bo$2bo17b2o11b2obob2o2b2o$bo32bo3bo
3bo$34b5o5bo$30bo5bo$28b5o$28bo3bo$27b2obob2o$28bo3bo$28b5o$30bo3$30b
2o$30bo$32bo!
with repeat time 37. This allows now the construction of stable G to 2G duplicators and splitters (also G to R+G, G to 2R, R to 2G, R to G+R, R to 2R) as we have stable G to R converters.

The most simple duplicator is:

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x = 38, y = 51, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
$4b2o$5bo$5b2o3$6bo$4b5o$4bo3bo$3b2obob2o$4bo3bo$4b5o$6bo2$3b2o$2bob2o
$3b2o2$24bo$22b5o$22bo3bo$21b2obob2o2b2o$22bo3bo3bo$22b5o5bo$24bo$13bo
$11bo$b2o8b2o$2bo$o4bo18bo$22b5o$22bo3bo$b2o18b2obob2o2b2o$2bo19bo3bo
3bo$o21b5o5bo$5b2o11bo5bo$6bo9b5o$4bo11bo3bo$15b2obob2o$16bo3bo$16b5o$
18bo3$18b2o$18bo$20bo!
The most simple G to 2G splitter I found so far is:

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x = 154, y = 259, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
$32bo$34bo$33b2o3$34bo$32b5o$32bo3bo$31b2obob2o$32bo3bo$32b5o$28bo5bo$
20bo5b5o$22bo3bo3bo$21b2o2b2obob2o$26bo3bo$26b5o$17bo4bo5bo$19bo4bo$
18b2o3b2o$56bo$54b5o20b2o$15b2o5bo31bo3bo3b2o16bo$16bo36b2obob2o2bo17b
2o$14bo39bo3bo5bo$54b5o$56bo24bo$27b2o50b5o$24b2obo51bo3bo$24bo4bo13bo
34b2obob2o$26bo14b5o33bo3bo$41bo3bo33b5o$29bo10b2obob2o18bo15bo$26bo4b
o9bo3bo17b5o$28bob2o9b5o17bo3bo$27b2o14bo15bo2b2obob2o$13bo43b3o3bo3bo
$11b5o41bo5b5o$11bo3bo27b2o20bo$6b2o2b2obob2o22bo4bo$7bo3bo3bo17bo5b3o
2b2o$5bo5b5o25bo$13bo5bo$17b5o9b2o3b2o$17bo3bo9bo4bo$16b2obob2o10bo4bo
$17bo3bo$17b5o$19bo3$18b2o$19bo$17bo7$143bo$141b5o$141bo3bo$140b2obob
2o2b2o$141bo3bo3bo$141b5o5bo$50bo92bo$48b5o35bo$48bo3bo33bo$47b2obob2o
22b2o8b2o$48bo3bo24bo$48b5o22bo4bo62bo$50bo90b5o$141bo3bo$76b2o62b2obo
b2o2b2o$49b2o26bo63bo3bo3bo$50bo24bo65b5o5bo$48bo22bo8b2o55bo5bo$70b3o
8bo53b5o$70bobo6bo55bo3bo$71bo62b2obob2o$135bo3bo$135b5o$137bo3$137b2o
$137bo$139bo166$71bo$70b3o$70bobo$71bo!
with a repeat time of 354.

This 90° R to G reflector in combination with the standard 90° G to G snowflake-reflectors and the 90° R to G converter can be used to construct any colour changing 90° reflector (the actual ones are colour preserving - this is also the reason the large repeat time of the splitter).

However, now the rule has lots of nice things:
- all stable colour changing 90° and 180° R and G reflectors,
- G and R guns of larger periods (G 33>=, R 40>=, also some smaller periods) and pseudo guns should be constructable for periods p>=21:

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x = 98, y = 61, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
2$47bobo$47b3o20$47bobo$47b3o20$47bobo$47b3o2$70b2o19b2o$70bo20bo$70b
2o19b2o2$9b2o18b3o33b3o18b2o$b2o7bo11b2o7bo33bo20bo$2bo5b3o12bo6b2o33b
2o19b3o$b2o19b2o!
- oscillators of all periods
- synthesis for all important natural still lifes and spaceships
- simple push reaction (for the single point and the snowflake), using splitters we might be able to construct pulls reaction as well.

EDIT1: The 90° reflector collection (G/R to G/R) with all possible colour changes:

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x = 598, y = 145, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
6$5b2o93b2o108b2o211b2o$6bo94bo109bo212bo$5b2o93b2o108b2o211b2o3$14bo$
12bo87b2o108b2o211b2o$12b2o87bo109bo212bo$99b3o107b3o210b3o2$12bo$10b
5o$10bo3bo97bo33bo74bo4bo20bo4bo35bo4bo52bo4bo83bo33bo51bo53bo$9b2obob
2o19bo4bo69bo33bo74bo4bo20bo4bo35bo4bo52bo4bo83bo33bo51bo53bo$10bo3bo
18bo4bo71b2o32b2o73b2o3b2o19b2o3b2o34b2o3b2o51b2o3b2o82b2o32b2o50b2o
52b2o$10b5o18b2o3b2o$12bo$43bo66bo33bo65b2o9bo5b2o7b2o9bo5b2o22b2o9bo
5b2o39b2o9bo5b2o79bo33bo51bo53bo$5b2o17b2o9bo5b3o64b5o29b5o64bo15bo9bo
15bo24bo15bo41bo15bo78b5o29b5o47b5o49b5o$6bo18bo15bo3bo62bo3bo29bo3bo
63b2o17bo6b2o17bo21b2o17bo38b2o17bo76bo3bo29bo3bo47bo3bo49bo3bo$5b2o
17b2o18b2o61b2obob2o27b2obob2o282b2obob2o27b2obob2o45b2obob2o47b2obob
2o$108bo3bo29bo3bo284bo3bo29bo3bo47bo3bo49bo3bo$108b5o29b5o68b2o24b2o
39b2o56b2o89b5o29b5o47b5o49b5o$29b2o14bo64bo5bo27bo5bo65bob2o22bob2o
37bob2o54bob2o88bo5bo27bo5bo45bo5bo47bo5bo$30bob2o9b5o66b5o5bo23b5o61b
o4bo20bo4bo35bo4bo52bo4bo92b5o5bo23b5o5bo41b5o5bo43b5o5bo$28bo4bo9bo3b
o66bo3bo3bo25bo3bo3bo60bo25bo17bo4bo17bo17bo4bo34bo17bo4bo71bo3bo3bo
25bo3bo3bo43bo3bo3bo45bo3bo3bo$31bo10b2obob2o51b2o11b2obob2o2b2o10b2o
11b2obob2o2b3o100bo4bo35bo4bo52bo4bo59b2o11b2obob2o2b2o10b2o11b2obob2o
2b2o28b2o11b2obob2o2b2o30b2o11b2obob2o2b2o$43bo3bo53bo12bo3bo16bo12bo
3bo5bobo98b2o3b2o34b2o3b2o51b2o3b2o59bo12bo3bo16bo12bo3bo34bo12bo3bo
36bo12bo3bo$43b5o51b3o12b5o14b3o12b5o4b2o83bo40bo57bo80b3o12b5o14b3o
12b5o32b3o12b5o34b3o12b5o$30bo14bo70bo33bo89b5o36b5o53b5o95bo33bo51bo
53bo5bo4bo$28b5o207bo3bo16bo5b2o12bo3bo16bo5b2o29bo3bo16bo5b2o215bo4bo
$28bo3bo124bo77b2o2b2obob2o21bo8b2o2b2obob2o21bo25b2o2b2obob2o21bo61b
2o32b2o50b2o67b2o3b2o$23b2o2b2obob2o116bo4b5o76bo3bo3bo24bo7bo3bo3bo
24bo24bo3bo3bo24bo60bo33bo51bo51bo$24bo3bo3bo115bo6bo3bo74bo5b5o30bo5b
5o47bo5b5o83bo33bo51bo45bo5b5o$22bo5b5o115b2o4b2obob2o81bo5bo34bo5bo
51bo5bo79b2o10bo21b2o10bo39b2o10bo35bo3bo3bo15bo5b2o$30bo5bo114bo3bo3b
o86b5o4b2o30b5o4b2o47b5o4b2o72bo8bo24bo8bo42bo8bo36b2o2b2obob2o20bo$
34b5o110bo5b5o86bo3bo5bob2o27bo3bo5bob2o44bo3bo5bob2o67bo10b2o21bo10b
2o39bo10b2o40bo3bo23bo$34bo3bo100b2o8b2o6bo5bo81b2obob2o2bo4bo26b2obob
2o2bo4bo43b2obob2o2bo4bo73bo33bo51bo46b5o$33b2obob2o100bo20b5o5bo74bo
3bo6bo29bo3bo6bo17bo4bo23bo3bo6bo17bo4bo48bo33bo51bo52bo$34bo3bo99bo4b
o17bo3bo3bo76b5o36b5o22bo4bo25b5o22bo4bo52bo33bo15bo4bo30bo15bo4bo41b
2o$34b5o121b2obob2o2b2o77bo40bo24b2o3b2o26bo24b2o3b2o50b2o32b2o13bo4bo
31b2o13bo4bo44bob2o$36bo124bo3bo131bo57bo122b2o3b2o45b2o3b2o41bo4bo$
139b2o20b5o129b5o53b5o103bo51bo67bo$140bo22bo83b2o39b2o5bo3bo16bo5b2o
22b2o5bo3bo16bo5b2o77b5o47b5o$35b2o101bo109bo40bobo2b2obob2o21bo24bobo
2b2obob2o21bo72bo5bo3bo16bo5b2o17bo5bo3bo16bo5b2o$36bo106b2o101bo42b3o
3bo3bo24bo22b3o3bo3bo24bo72bo2b2obob2o21bo20bo2b2obob2o21bo$34bo108bo
151b5o53b5o96b2o3bo3bo24bo17b2o3bo3bo24bo$145bo144bo6bo5bo44bo6bo5bo
97b5o47b5o$301b5o4b2o47b5o4b2o91bo5bo45bo5bo$301bo3bo5bob2o44bo3bo5bob
2o92b5o4b2o41b5o4b2o$300b2obob2o2bo4bo43b2obob2o2bo4bo92bo3bo5bob2o38b
o3bo5bob2o$301bo3bo6bo46bo3bo6bo17bo4bo70b2obob2o2bo4bo37b2obob2o2bo4b
o$301b5o53b5o22bo4bo73bo3bo6bo40bo3bo6bo17bo4bo$303bo57bo24b2o3b2o72b
5o47b5o22bo4bo$369bo97bo51bo24b2o3b2o$367b5o155bo$302b2o56b2o5bo3bo16b
o5b2o129b5o$303bo57bobo2b2obob2o21bo71b2o50b2o5bo3bo16bo5b2o$301bo59b
3o3bo3bo24bo70bo51bo4b2obob2o21bo$367b5o93bo51bo3bo3bo3bo24bo$362bo6bo
5bo144b2o3b5o$373b5o4b2o143bo5bo$373bo3bo5bob2o144b5o4b2o$372b2obob2o
2bo4bo144bo3bo5bob2o$373bo3bo6bo145b2obob2o2bo4bo$373b5o153bo3bo6bo$
375bo155b5o$533bo2$374b2o$375bo156b2o$373bo159bo$531bo!
EDIT2: Several shifting reactions for the point with one sided salvos:

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x = 82, y = 23, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
4$5bo11bo11bo11bo11bo11bo11bo3$25b3o27b3o9b3o5b3o$25bobo15b3o9bobo9bob
o5bobo$25bo17bobo11bo11bo5bo$4b3o9b3o26bo$4bobo9bobo11b3o$16bo13bobo$
30bo22b3o$53bobo2$28b3o12b3o$28bobo12bobo$45bo!
shifting by (0,1), (0,1), (0,-1), (0,-3), (1, 0), (1,-1), (2,-2)

And for the snowflake:

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x = 111, y = 188, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
$11bo24bo24bo$9b5o20b5o20b5o26bo$9bo3bo20bo3bo20bo3bo24b5o$8b2obob2o
18b2obob2o18b2obob2o23bo3bo$9bo3bo20bo3bo20bo3bo23b2obob2o$9b5o20b5o
20b5o24bo3bo$11bo24bo24bo26b5o$90bo2$10b3o16b3o22b3o$10bobo16bobo22bob
o26b3o$29bo24bo28bobo$83bo$6b3o$6bobo6$36b3o$36bobo52b3o$91bobo6$39b3o
$39bobo52b3o$94bobo$94bo2$41b3o$41bobo2$93b3o$93bobo$35b3o55bo$35bobo$
37bo2$90b3o$90bobo3$33b3o$33bobo$35bo54b3o$90bobo5$31b3o56b3o$31bobo
56bobo$33bo4$90b3o$90bobo$33b3o$33bobo$33bo5$35b3o$35bobo4$27b3o$27bob
o$27bo6$29b3o$29bobo$29bo6$31b3o$31bobo$31bo3$37b3o$37bobo$37bo5$35b3o
$35bobo5$35b3o$35bobo5$35b3o$35bobo5$35b3o$35bobo5$35b3o$35bobo5$35b3o
$35bobo5$35b3o$35bobo5$35b3o$35bobo5$35b3o$35bobo5$35b3o$35bobo5$35b3o
$35bobo5$35b3o$35bobo5$35b3o$35bobo!
shifting by (0,1), (0,-1), (1,0), (1,-3). The pull reaction is clearly not optimal (the combination of the other three ones gives a quicker pull reaction) but it illustrates well, how the shifting reactions of the points can be combined.

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