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Re: A 1.4 million tick JvN29 replicator

Postby Redstoneboi » August 18th, 2018, 11:52 pm

I'm just wondering, why is there a 32nd state in nobili32 and hutton32 if you could just use the 27th/28? I mean, it's not like it doesn't have 2 perpendicular inputs and outputs.
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Re: A 1.4 million tick JvN29 replicator

Postby calcyman » August 19th, 2018, 12:14 pm

Redstoneboi wrote:I'm just wondering, why is there a 32nd state in nobili32 and hutton32 if you could just use the 27th/28? I mean, it's not like it doesn't have 2 perpendicular inputs and outputs.


You mean to replace the 'doubly-excited crossover' (31) with the 'confluent state in its final level of excitation' (27)? That would indeed work correctly (if I'm not mistaken) and reduce the state count to 31. I imagine the reason that's not been done is because overloading a single physical state to behave as multiple logical states (depending on context) often makes things difficult to reason about at the expense of slightly reducing the state count. Either way, you need 5 bits to represent each cell irrespective of whether the number of states is 32, 31 or 29 (or even 17).
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Re: A 1.4 million tick JvN29 replicator

Postby Redstoneboi » August 20th, 2018, 7:28 am

Ah, thank you Calcyman.
also, i’m working on optimizing the replicator body and tape, might be able to get 1,500 ticks off of the final product. A more realistic goal would be 500, though.

currently reduced bounding box, construction recipe beginning and end are now different.
Next thing to optimize is the tape. good luck to me.
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Re: A 1.4 million tick JvN29 replicator

Postby Redstoneboi » August 25th, 2018, 7:06 am

I just wanna say good luck to whoever makes a compiler for this.
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Re: A 1.4 million tick JvN29 replicator

Postby Hdjensofjfnen » August 25th, 2018, 3:32 pm

What have I done?
x = 6, y = 7, rule = JvN29
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Re: A 1.4 million tick JvN29 replicator

Postby Redstoneboi » August 25th, 2018, 7:08 pm

You’ve created a loop that creates an up STS, destroys it, and generates the sequence “1001 1001 1001 1001 10001” which causes the wire to move 4 times left, and 1 time up each cycle after the STS is destroyed.
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Re: A 1.4 million tick JvN29 replicator

Postby Redstoneboi » August 26th, 2018, 4:47 am

This may be worth posting, even after i edited the optimizations post. There are more ways to construct faster.
Anyway have a 4-rows-at-once construction.
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Re: A 1.4 million tick JvN29 replicator

Postby Redstoneboi » September 10th, 2018, 10:24 pm

calcyman wrote:I contemplated creating a variant of Nobili32 where confluent cells can't be created ex nihilo, but rather need to be collected as 'food particles' and positioned.


hmmm, seems like a nice concept: collecting food. I might be able to make an isotropic CA for that, in fact i already have some progress and it's already turing complete and probably construction universal too.

i'll be talking about such a rule in Sticky.

note: blocks can be created out of space, which i might either disable or leave it as is and make a machine that doesn't use exploits.
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Re: A 1.4 million tick JvN29 replicator

Postby fluffykitty » September 11th, 2018, 8:27 pm

Redstoneboi wrote:FINISHED REPLICATOR!!!
The pattern at generation 45 is exactly the same one as the new pattern at generation 221,738, therefore making the period 221,693, more than TWICE as fast as the previous completed replicator.
Anyone up to top that? :wink:

replicator

I didn't expect this to be able to get that fast! A spaceship using these methods would probably be possible, but it would require a lot of work and I don't have the motivation.
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Re: A 1.4 million tick JvN29 replicator

Postby Redstoneboi » September 22nd, 2018, 4:36 am

Progress on the new Optimum Replicator.
The stuff on the right are what I use to construct certain cells or combinations of cells.
x = 2021, y = 88, rule = JvN29
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