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Reflectorless Rotating Oscillators (RRO)

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Re: Reflectorless Rotating Oscillators (RRO)

Postby Macbi » February 21st, 2019, 8:08 am

Would it be possible to make an RRO puffer such that the RROs "interlink" like the following?
x = 136, y = 20, rule = B2-an3-eiky4aiqw5ijnr6ak/S012ik3-acir4kqw5acq6ack7c8
bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo$o15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo2$
o15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo13$7bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15b
o2$7bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo$6bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo
15bo!
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Re: Reflectorless Rotating Oscillators (RRO)

Postby Hdjensofjfnen » February 26th, 2019, 5:23 pm

What the FLIP? :lol:
x = 7, y = 5, rule = B3/S2-i3-y4i
4b3o$6bo$o3b3o$2o$bo!

EDIT: I think it's period 1912.
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4b3o$6bo$o3b3o$2o$bo!
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Re: Reflectorless Rotating Oscillators (RRO)

Postby Moosey » February 26th, 2019, 5:39 pm

Hdjensofjfnen wrote:What the FLIP? :lol:
x = 7, y = 5, rule = B3/S2-i3-y4i
4b3o$6bo$o3b3o$2o$bo!

That thing is kookier than chris cain's camelship and given that it literally has gliders bouncing around inside there must be a gun.
A close call (twice period):
x = 133, y = 109, rule = B3/S2-i3-y4i
56b2ob2o$56b2ob2o2$56b2ob2o$56b2ob2o2$3b2ob2o$3b2ob2o2$3b2ob2o$3b2ob2o
33$61bo$62bo$23b2ob2o32b3o$23b2ob2o$122b2ob2o$122b2ob2o2$122b2ob2o$3b
2o117b2ob2o$2bob2ob2o$b2o5b2o59b2ob2o$3o4bob2o58b2ob2o$b3o$2bo4bo61b2o
b2o$4bo11bo52b2ob2o$4bo2bo9bo$3bo14bo$4b2o9bobo$10bo2b2obo29$127bo$
128bo$89b2ob2o32b3o$89b2ob2o5$69b2o$68bob2ob2o$67b2o5b2o52b2ob2o$66b3o
4bob2o51b2ob2o$67b3o$68bo4bo54b2ob2o$70bo11bo45b2ob2o$70bo2bo9bo$69bo
14bo$70b2o9bobo$76bo2b2obo!


EDIT:
x = 112, y = 117, rule = B3/S2-i3-y4i
48b2ob2o$48b2ob2o2$48b2ob2o$48b2ob2o39b3o$92bobo$92bobo3$96bo$88bo6b4o
$81bo4b2o7bo2bo$79b2o3b3obo9b2o$80bobob2o11b2o$80bo15b2o$82b3o11b2o$
84bo$82b2o$82bo9bo18$76b3o$76bo$77bo8$19bobo$19bo3bo3bo79b2ob2o$24bobo
bo78b2ob2o$19bo$19bo10bo76b2ob2o$20bo4bobo2bo76b2ob2o$22b2obo2bo$54b2o
b2o$54b2ob2o36bo$95bo$54b2ob2o$54b2ob2o2$53b2ob2o$53b2ob2o$16bo$16bo
36b2ob2o$53b2ob2o$83bo2bob2o$2ob2o76bo2bobo4bo$2ob2o76bo10bo$92bo$2ob
2o78bobobo$2ob2o79bo3bo3bo$90bobo8$34bo$35bo$33b3o18$19bo9bo$28b2o$27b
o$14b2o11b3o$14b2o15bo$13b2o11b2obobo$12b2o9bob3o3b2o$13bo2bo7b2o4bo$
13b4o6bo$15bo3$17bobo$17bobo$17b3o39b2ob2o$59b2ob2o2$59b2ob2o$59b2ob2o
!


Another close call:
x = 123, y = 118, rule = B3/S2-i3-y4i
59b2ob2o$59b2ob2o2$59b2ob2o$59b2ob2o39b3o$103bobo$103bobo3$107bo$99bo
6b4o$92bo4b2o7bo2bo$90b2o3b3obo9b2o$91bobob2o11b2o$91bo15b2o$93b3o11b
2o$95bo$93b2o$93bo9bo18$87b3o$87bo$88bo9$59b2ob2o54b2ob2o$59b2ob2o54b
2ob2o2$59b2ob2o54b2ob2o$17b3o39b2ob2o54b2ob2o$17bobo$17bobo45b2ob2o$
65b2ob2o36bo$106bo$15bo49b2ob2o$13b4o6bo41b2ob2o$13bo2bo7b2o4bo$12b2o
9bob3o3b2o$13b2o11b2obobo$14b2o15bo$14b2o11b3o$27bo$28b2o64bo2bob2o$
19bo9bo62bo2bobo4bo$92bo10bo$103bo$94bobobo$95bo3bo3bo$101bobo13$33b3o
$35bo$34bo9$2ob2o$2ob2o2$2ob2o$2ob2o2$53b2ob2o$16bo36b2ob2o$16bo$53b2o
b2o$53b2ob2o7$22b2obo2bo$20bo4bobo2bo$19bo10bo$19bo$24bobobo$19bo3bo3b
o$19bobo!


Oh well
x = 91, y = 135, rule = B3/S2-i3-y4i
2ob2o$2ob2o2$2ob2o$2ob2o39b3o$44bobo$44bobo3$48bo$40bo6b4o$33bo4b2o7bo
2bo$31b2o3b3obo9b2o$32bobob2o11b2o$32bo15b2o$34b3o11b2o$36bo$34b2o$34b
o9bo18$28b3o$28bo$29bo9$59b2ob2o$59b2ob2o2$59b2ob2o$59b2ob2o2$6b2ob2o$
6b2ob2o36bo$47bo$6b2ob2o$6b2ob2o7$27b2ob2o3bo2bob2o$27b2ob2obo2bobo4bo
$33bo10bo$27b2ob2o12bo$27b2ob2o3bobobo31b3o$36bo3bo3bo26bobo$42bobo26b
obo3$75bo$67bo6b4o$60bo4b2o7bo2bo$58b2o3b3obo9b2o$59bobob2o11b2o$59bo
15b2o$61b3o11b2o$63bo$61b2o$61bo9bo18$55b3o$55bo$56bo9$86b2ob2o$86b2ob
2o2$86b2ob2o$86b2ob2o2$33b2ob2o$33b2ob2o36bo$74bo$33b2ob2o$33b2ob2o7$
62bo2bob2o$60bo2bobo4bo$60bo10bo$71bo$62bobobo$63bo3bo3bo$69bobo!


x = 141, y = 158, rule = B3/S2-i3-y4i
118b2ob2o$118b2ob2o2$118b2ob2o$118b2ob2o8$79b4o$78bo4bo$78bo4b2o$78bo
5bobo35b3o$82b2obo2bo35bo$79b2o5bo35b2o$80bob6o6b3o24bo5b2o$79bo14b4o
29b2o$80b3o4bob2o3b2obo34bo4b2o$77bo3b2o3b2obobo40bo5b2o$78bobo2b2obo
4bo45bo2bo$85bo5bo46bobo$84b2o4bo38bobo5bo$82b3o52b2o$81b6o51bo$81bo3b
o$81bo3bo$82bobo27bo$83bo26b2o$111b2o9$47b2ob2o$47b2ob2o2$47b2ob2o$47b
2ob2o8$8b4o$7bo4bo111b2ob2o$7bo4b2o110b2ob2o$7bo5bobo35b3o$11b2obo2bo
35bo70b2ob2o$8b2o5bo35b2o71b2ob2o$9bob6o6b3o24bo5b2o$8bo14b4o29b2o13b
2ob2o$9b3o4bob2o3b2obo34bo4b2o3b2ob2o$6bo3b2o3b2obobo40bo5b2o$7bobo2b
2obo4bo45bo2bob2ob2o$14bo5bo46bobob2ob2o$13b2o4bo38bobo5bo$11b3o52b2o$
10b6o51bo$10bo3bo$10bo3bo$11bobo27bo$12bo26b2o$40b2o17$89b2o$91bo$86b
2obob2o$87b2obobo2$53b2ob2o$53b2ob2o2$53b2ob2o33b2o$53b2ob2o30bo2$2ob
2o83bo$2ob2o50b2ob2o33b2o$55b2ob2o33b2o$2ob2o$2ob2o50b2ob2o$55b2ob2o
36b2o$95bobo$95bobo10b2ob2o$94bo13b2ob2o2$108b2ob2o$108b2ob2o6$81bobo$
81b2o$82bo13$92b2o$93b2o$92b3o$92b3o3$89b3o$88bo3bo$91b2o$96bo$91b2obo
$86bo3b2o2b2obo$84b3ob2o4bobo$83bo2b3obo3bo2b2o$82bo3b2o2bo3bobob2o$
83bo2b2o3b2obobo3bo$84b3o4b2o7bo$90bobob2o4bo$93bobo4bo$90bo6b3o$91bo
2$49b2ob2o$49b2ob2o2$49b2ob2o$49b2ob2o!


EDIT:
SOOOOOOO CLOSE!!!!
x = 113, y = 134, rule = B3/S2-i3-y4i
47b2ob2o$47b2ob2o2$47b2ob2o$47b2ob2o8$12bo$10b4o$10bo2b3o$9b2o3b2o$10b
2o42b2o$4b3o$4bo$4b3o11bo47b2ob2o$65bo$70bo$64bo$10bobo51bo4bo$11bo56b
o$11b2o51b2o$12b2o54bo$12b2ob2o48bo3bo$15bobo46bo3bo$13bobob2o$11bo53b
2o$12b3o$12bo$36bo$36bobo$36b2o18$53b2ob2o$53b2ob2o2$53b2ob2o$53b2ob2o
2$2ob2o$2ob2o2$2ob2o$2ob2o44b2ob2o$49b2ob2o2$49b2ob2o$49b2ob2o39b3o$
93bobo$93bobo3$97bo$89bo6b4o$82bo4b2o7bo2bo$80b2o3b3obo9b2o$81bobob2o
11b2o$81bo15b2o$83b3o11b2o$85bo$83b2o$83bo9bo18$77b3o$77bo$78bo9$108b
2ob2o$108b2ob2o2$108b2ob2o$108b2ob2o2$55b2ob2o$55b2ob2o36bo$96bo$55b2o
b2o$55b2ob2o7$84bo2bob2o$82bo2bobo4bo$82bo10bo$93bo$84bobobo$85bo3bo3b
o$91bobo!


*Abhpzta looks over shoulder*
"oh, that's easy"
*makes gun in three seconds*
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Re: Reflectorless Rotating Oscillators (RRO)

Postby Hdjensofjfnen » February 26th, 2019, 6:01 pm

Another much less impressive RRO:
x = 4, y = 4, rule = B3/S2-i3-r4i
2o$o$bobo$2bo!
Life is hard. Deal with it.
My favorite oscillator of all time:
x = 7, y = 5, rule = B3/S2-i3-y4i
4b3o$6bo$o3b3o$2o$bo!
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Re: Reflectorless Rotating Oscillators (RRO)

Postby Moosey » February 26th, 2019, 6:15 pm

FINALLY!!!!!! (p3824 gun)
x = 147, y = 76, rule = B3/S2-i3-y4i
47b2ob2o$47b2ob2o2$47b2ob2o$47b2ob2o7$129bo$12bo115bobo$10b4o71bo43bob
o$10bo2b3o68bo45bo$9b2o3b2o69bo44bo$10b2o42b2o31bo40b3o$4b3o81bo39bo2b
o$4bo81b2o41bobo$4b3o11bo47b2ob2o14bo4bo37b2obo$65bo18b3o2bobo34b2o$
70bo16bobo35b2o2b2o$64bo22b2o3bobo31b3o$10bobo51bo4bo17bo5bo33b2o4b2o$
11bo56bo65b2o$11b2o51b2o62b2o$12b2o54bo63bobo$12b2ob2o48bo3bo53b2o2bob
2obobo$15bobo46bo3bo53bo6bo2bobo$13bobob2o103bobobo$11bo53b2obo5bo46bo
6b2obo$12b3o52bobo3b2o47b3o6b2o$12bo59bobo51b2obob2o$36bo33bobo2b3o49b
ob2o$36bobo32bo4bo$36b2o36b2o$73bo$74bo$76bo$77bo$76bo13$53b2ob2o$53b
2ob2o2$53b2ob2o$53b2ob2o2$2ob2o$2ob2o2$2ob2o$2ob2o2$142b2ob2o$142b2ob
2o2$142b2ob2o$142b2ob2o2$89b2ob2o$89b2ob2o2$89b2ob2o$89b2ob2o!


p26768:
x = 326, y = 76, rule = B3/S2-i3-y4i
47b2ob2o222b2ob2o$47b2ob2o222b2ob2o2$47b2ob2o222b2ob2o$47b2ob2o222b2ob
2o7$129bo66bo$12bo115bobo64bobo115bo$10b4o71bo43bobo62bobo43bo71b4o$
10bo2b3o68bo45bo64bo45bo68b3o2bo$9b2o3b2o69bo44bo64bo44bo69b2o3b2o$10b
2o42b2o31bo40b3o64b3o40bo31b2o42b2o$4b3o81bo39bo2bo62bo2bo39bo81b3o$4b
o81b2o41bobo62bobo41b2o81bo$4b3o11bo47b2ob2o14bo4bo37b2obo62bob2o37bo
4bo14b2ob2o47bo11b3o$65bo18b3o2bobo34b2o70b2o34bobo2b3o18bo$70bo16bobo
35b2o2b2o64b2o2b2o35bobo16bo$64bo22b2o3bobo31b3o68b3o31bobo3b2o22bo$
10bobo51bo4bo17bo5bo33b2o4b2o56b2o4b2o33bo5bo17bo4bo51bobo$11bo56bo65b
2o54b2o65bo56bo$11b2o51b2o62b2o66b2o62b2o51b2o$12b2o54bo63bobo56bobo
63bo54b2o$12b2ob2o48bo3bo53b2o2bob2obobo56bobob2obo2b2o53bo3bo48b2ob2o
$15bobo46bo3bo53bo6bo2bobo56bobo2bo6bo53bo3bo46bobo$13bobob2o103bobobo
72bobobo103b2obobo$11bo53b2obo5bo46bo6b2obo62bob2o6bo46bo5bob2o53bo$
12b3o52bobo3b2o47b3o6b2o60b2o6b3o47b2o3bobo52b3o$12bo59bobo51b2obob2o
60b2obob2o51bobo59bo$36bo33bobo2b3o49bob2o64b2obo49b3o2bobo33bo$36bobo
32bo4bo172bo4bo32bobo$36b2o36b2o174b2o36b2o$73bo178bo$74bo176bo$76bo
172bo$77bo170bo$76bo172bo13$53b2ob2o210b2ob2o$53b2ob2o210b2ob2o2$53b2o
b2o210b2ob2o$53b2ob2o210b2ob2o2$2ob2o316b2ob2o$2ob2o316b2ob2o2$2ob2o
316b2ob2o$2ob2o316b2ob2o2$142b2ob2o32b2ob2o$142b2ob2o32b2ob2o2$142b2ob
2o32b2ob2o$142b2ob2o32b2ob2o2$89b2ob2o138b2ob2o$89b2ob2o138b2ob2o2$89b
2ob2o138b2ob2o$89b2ob2o138b2ob2o!
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Re: Reflectorless Rotating Oscillators (RRO)

Postby toroidalet » February 27th, 2019, 12:16 am

p1912 gun:
x = 173, y = 129, rule = B3/S2-i3-y4i
9$64b2ob2o$64b2ob2o2$64b2ob2o$64b2ob2o2$11b2ob2o$11b2ob2o2$11b2ob2o$
11b2ob2o12$37b2o$38b2o$37bo17$65bo$59b3o3bo$58bo2bo3bo$58bo2bo$61bo2bo
23b2ob2o34bo$64b2o22b2ob2o33b3o$126bob2o$88b2ob2o35b2o$88b2ob2o2$125bo
$125b2o$125bobo$63bob2o59bo2bobo7bo$63bo2bo57b2o3b2o7b2o$63b3o58b2o3b
2o7bob2o$125b2ob3o7b5o$128b3o7b2obo5bo$17b2ob2o104bo2bobo7bobobo3bobo$
17b2ob2o109b2o5bo4bo3bob2o$130b3o14b3o$17b2ob2o112bobo10b2o$17b2ob2o$
135bo$140b2o2b3o$146bo$116bo18b2o6bob2o$115b3o17bobo5b2o$115bobo20bo$
135bobo$119b2o14b2o$111b2o7b2o$110b2o7b2o$111b2o2$114bobo5b2obobo$114b
3o8bo2bo$115bo6b2obob2o$123bob2o$122b2obo$121bo2b2o$120bo$120bobo$120b
o2bo$121bo2bo$121bo2bo$122b3o5$147b2ob2o$147b2ob2o$134b2o$134b2o11b2ob
2o$147b2ob2o2$94b2ob2o$94b2ob2o2$94b2ob2o$94b2ob2o!
x = 4, y = 2, rule = B3/S23
ob2o$2obo!

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Re: Reflectorless Rotating Oscillators (RRO)

Postby 2718281828 » March 21st, 2019, 12:35 pm

A minimal 1/2/4 RRO with small periods 68/34/17:
x = 47, y = 45, rule = B2ce4a5-eknq/S012ik3ejnr4ijr5j6k7e
10$26b2o$9bo12bo12bo$7bobo10bobo4bo5bobo6$12bobo10bobo5bo$12bo12bo$33b
2o7$20bo2$19bob5o$22bo2bobo$21b5o5$20bo2$19bob7o3bo$22bo5bobobo$21b7o
3bo!


Further, I tried to find a 7-fold (in fact 1/2/4/5/7) with a period of 140/70/35/28/20 but I failed. The closest I found is this one, which is only 1/2/4/5(+failed 7) fold:
x = 109, y = 53, rule = B2e3cin4jkwz5kqy6k/S12acn3aejqr4ajkqz5cjry
15$11b2o20b2o4b2o14b2o8bo11b2o20b2o$12b2o20b2o2b3o15b2o5bo2bo11b2o20b
2o$11b3o19b3o2bobo14b3o6b2o11b3o19b3o3$99bobo2$99b2o$101bo$101bo$60b3o
15b2o20bo$61b2o14bo22b2o$61bo15bobo19b3o$60b2o16b2o$78bo$60bo17b2o$60b
2o15b3o$16b3o19b3o14bobo9bo4bo$16b2o20b2o15b3o8bo4bo$17b2o20b2o14b2o
10b2o3bo!


Edit1:
A lower period 1/2/4-fold (p 64/32/16):
x = 79, y = 60, rule = B2-an3aj4ar5aci8/S01c2-en3ejkn4j5aqry6k7e
18$70bo$70b2o$70bo2$74bo4$5b2o13b2o4bobo6b2o$26bo43bo$4bobo12bobo6bo5b
obo33b2o$70bo$74bo4$11bobo12bobo5bo$36bo$11b2o13b2o6bobo33bo$70b2o$70b
o3bo9$70bo$70b2o2bo$70bo5$62bo7bo$62b2o6b2o2bo$62bo7bo!

(This rule has a small c/2 ship and a nice 3-dot failed replicator and is stable)
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Re: Reflectorless Rotating Oscillators (RRO)

Postby muzik » March 21st, 2019, 12:47 pm

It's something.
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Re: Reflectorless Rotating Oscillators (RRO)

Postby Naszvadi » March 21st, 2019, 2:04 pm

toroidalet wrote:p1912 gun:
x = 173, y = 129, rule = B3/S2-i3-y4i
9$64b2ob2o$64b2ob2o2$64b2ob2o$64b2ob2o2$11b2ob2o$11b2ob2o2$11b2ob2o$
11b2ob2o12$37b2o$38b2o$37bo17$65bo$59b3o3bo$58bo2bo3bo$58bo2bo$61bo2bo
23b2ob2o34bo$64b2o22b2ob2o33b3o$126bob2o$88b2ob2o35b2o$88b2ob2o2$125bo
$125b2o$125bobo$63bob2o59bo2bobo7bo$63bo2bo57b2o3b2o7b2o$63b3o58b2o3b
2o7bob2o$125b2ob3o7b5o$128b3o7b2obo5bo$17b2ob2o104bo2bobo7bobobo3bobo$
17b2ob2o109b2o5bo4bo3bob2o$130b3o14b3o$17b2ob2o112bobo10b2o$17b2ob2o$
135bo$140b2o2b3o$146bo$116bo18b2o6bob2o$115b3o17bobo5b2o$115bobo20bo$
135bobo$119b2o14b2o$111b2o7b2o$110b2o7b2o$111b2o2$114bobo5b2obobo$114b
3o8bo2bo$115bo6b2obob2o$123bob2o$122b2obo$121bo2b2o$120bo$120bobo$120b
o2bo$121bo2bo$121bo2bo$122b3o5$147b2ob2o$147b2ob2o$134b2o$134b2o11b2ob
2o$147b2ob2o2$94b2ob2o$94b2ob2o2$94b2ob2o$94b2ob2o!


Is this the same?

x = 153, y = 163, rule = B3/S2-i3-y4i
152bo$150b3o$149bo$135b2ob2o9b2o$135b2ob2o2$135b2ob2o$135b2ob2o2$82b2o
b2o$82b2ob2o2$82b2ob2o$82b2ob2o28$91b3o$91bobo$90bo2bo$89bo2b2o43bo$
93bo44b2o$91bo4bo40b2o2$96bo5b2ob2o$102b2ob2o2$97bo$97bo$95bo3$82b2o
57b2ob2o$82bo58b2ob2o$83b2o$84b5o52b2ob2o$84bo3bo52b2ob2o$85b2o2b2o5bo
$86b2o2b2o3bobo$86bobobo5bo$87bobo$88bo6$90b3o$83bo5bo3bo$82bobo4bo3bo
$83bo5b2o2b2o$34b2ob2o52bobo$34b2ob2o52b2ob2o$96bo$34b2ob2o58bo$34b2ob
2o54bo2b2o$93bo$83bo$83bo$81bobo2$83bo$73b2ob2o$73b2ob2o$82b3o$41b2o
44bo$41bobo43bobo$41bo45bobo$86bo2bo$86b3o$87bo28$93b2ob2o$93b2ob2o2$
93b2ob2o$93b2ob2o2$40b2ob2o$40b2ob2o2$40b2ob2o$40b2ob2o27$2b2o$3bo$3o$
o!


According to OSCAR.py, it has period 1912. It was quite easy to find manually (less than 5mins) withOUT reading former results. So much fun! :)

[APPEND]

Nope, mine has two barrels!

[EDIT #2]

2019.03.22 - gun with 4 barrels composed of 2 RROs with symmetric phases:
#C 2019.03.22 - gun with 4 barrels composed of 2 RROs with symmetric phases:
x = 104, y = 137, rule = B3/S2-i3-y4i
93b2ob2o$93b2ob2o2$93b2ob2o$93b2ob2o2$40b2ob2o$40b2ob2o11b2o$56b2o$40b
2ob2o$o39b2ob2o22b3o$3o63bo2bo$3bo62bo3bo$2b2o61b2o2bo$66bo$66b2o$68b
3o$67bo2bo$67bo2bo$67b3o$76bo$64bo10bobo$63bobo8b5o$2o60bo2bo7b2o3b2o$
bo59b2obo7b2o5b2o$bobo58bo2bo7b2o3b2obo$2b2o61bo4bo3bo3bob3o$64b2o3b3o
7b2ob2o$54b2o12b2ob2o10b2o$53bo2bo10b2o14bobo$57bo8bobo14b2o$52bob4o9b
2o10b2ob2o$48b3o17b2ob2o7b3o$52bo16b3obo3bo3bo$49bobobo16bob2o3b2o$44b
o6b2ob4o13b2o5b2o$43bobo6bo4bo14b2o3b2o$46bobo4bo2bo16b5o$48b2o4b2o18b
obo$39bo2bo6bo25bo$39bo2bo15bo$38bo9b2o7bobo$38bo3bo4bobo7bobo$39bo2bo
15bo$40b3o4b2o10b4o$60bo2bo$59bo2bo$59bo2bo$59bo3b2ob2o$63bo4bo$62b4o$
62b2o3bobo$69bo$64bo3bo30b2ob2o$63bo35b2ob2o$63bo2bo$64bobo32b2ob2o$
66bob2o29b2ob2o$65b4o$65bo$63b2o16$39b2o$38bo$35b4o$2ob2o29b2obo$2ob2o
32bobo$37bo2bo$2ob2o35bo$2ob2o30bo3bo$34bo$34bobo3b2o$38b4o$35bo4bo$
36b2ob2o3bo$41bo2bo$41bo2bo$40bo2bo$41b4o10b2o4b3o$45bo15bo2bo$44bobo
7bobo4bo3bo$44bobo7b2o9bo$45bo15bo2bo$28bo25bo6bo2bo$27bobo18b2o4b2o$
26b5o16bo2bo4bobo$25b2o3b2o14bo4bo6bobo$24b2o5b2o13b4ob2o6bo$25b2o3b2o
bo16bobobo$22bo3bo3bob3o16bo$21b3o7b2ob2o17b3o$20b2ob2o10b2o9b4obo$19b
2o14bobo8bo$18bobo14b2o10bo2bo$19b2o10b2ob2o12b2o$20b2ob2o7b3o3b2o$21b
3obo3bo3bo4bo61b2o$22bob2o3b2o7bo2bo58bobo$23b2o5b2o7bob2o59bo$24b2o3b
2o7bo2bo60b2o$25b5o8bobo$26bobo10bo$27bo$34b3o$33bo2bo$33bo2bo$33b3o$
36b2o$37bo$34bo2b2o61b2o$33bo3bo62bo$34bo2bo63b3o$34b3o22b2ob2o39bo$
59b2ob2o$46b2o$46b2o11b2ob2o$59b2ob2o2$6b2ob2o$6b2ob2o2$6b2ob2o$6b2ob
2o!
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Re: Reflectorless Rotating Oscillators (RRO)

Postby muzik » March 21st, 2019, 3:31 pm

Have you maybe tried looking for something along the lines of a 1/2/4/8/16 RRO? Or a 1/2/3/4/6/8/12/16 RRO? These might be easier targets than 1/2/3/4/5/6/7 for now.
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Re: Reflectorless Rotating Oscillators (RRO)

Postby 2718281828 » March 21st, 2019, 4:54 pm

muzik wrote:Have you maybe tried looking for something along the lines of a 1/2/4/8/16 RRO? Or a 1/2/3/4/6/8/12/16 RRO? These might be easier targets than 1/2/3/4/5/6/7 for now.

I am not looking for a 1/2/3/4/5/6/7 - that's far beyond what we can find. I am looking for any 1/x1/.../xn/7 (e.g. 1/2/4/5/7, or maybe 1/2/3/4/6/7). I suspect that it will be much easier to find a 1/x1/.../xn/16 as the RRO must move quite fast for the 1/2/4/8 we have the 'ships' get already quite close to each other, for a 1/x1/.../xn/16 we require roughly the double radius.
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Re: Reflectorless Rotating Oscillators (RRO)

Postby 77topaz » Yesterday, 4:34 am

2718281828 wrote:Edit1:
A lower period 1/2/4-fold (p 64/32/16):
x = 79, y = 60, rule = B2-an3aj4ar5aci8/S01c2-en3ejkn4j5aqry6k7e
18$70bo$70b2o$70bo2$74bo4$5b2o13b2o4bobo6b2o$26bo43bo$4bobo12bobo6bo5b
obo33b2o$70bo$74bo4$11bobo12bobo5bo$36bo$11b2o13b2o6bobo33bo$70b2o$70b
o3bo9$70bo$70b2o2bo$70bo5$62bo7bo$62b2o6b2o2bo$62bo7bo!

(This rule has a small c/2 ship and a nice 3-dot failed replicator and is stable)


An interesting glider-advancing reaction in this rule:
x = 8, y = 12, rule = B2-an3aj4ar5aci8/S01c2-en3ejkn4j5aqry6k7e
o$2o5bo$o7$o$2o$o!
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Re: Reflectorless Rotating Oscillators (RRO)

Postby Moosey » Yesterday, 8:48 am

77topaz wrote:
2718281828 wrote:Edit1:
A lower period 1/2/4-fold (p 64/32/16):
x = 79, y = 60, rule = B2-an3aj4ar5aci8/S01c2-en3ejkn4j5aqry6k7e
18$70bo$70b2o$70bo2$74bo4$5b2o13b2o4bobo6b2o$26bo43bo$4bobo12bobo6bo5b
obo33b2o$70bo$74bo4$11bobo12bobo5bo$36bo$11b2o13b2o6bobo33bo$70b2o$70b
o3bo9$70bo$70b2o2bo$70bo5$62bo7bo$62b2o6b2o2bo$62bo7bo!

(This rule has a small c/2 ship and a nice 3-dot failed replicator and is stable)


An interesting glider-advancing reaction in this rule:
x = 8, y = 12, rule = B2-an3aj4ar5aci8/S01c2-en3ejkn4j5aqry6k7e
o$2o5bo$o7$o$2o$o!

Oh, neat!
x = 8, y = 9, rule = B2-an3aj4ar5aci8/S01c2-en3ejkn4j5aqry6k7e
o$2o5bo$o4$o$2o5bo$o!

I like the Heisenburp reaction in this:
x = 8, y = 9, rule = B2-an3aj4ar5aci8/S01c2-en3ejkn4j5aqry6k7e
2o$o6bo$2o4$o$2o5bo$o!


This one’s cool:
x = 10, y = 9, rule = B2-an3aj4ar5aci8/S01c2-en3ejkn4j5aqry6k7e
o$2o7bo$o4$bo$b2o6bo$bo!


The rule is explosive, however.
x = 18, y = 13, rule = B2-an3aj4ar5aci8/S01c2-en3ejkn4j5aqry6k7e
2o$o16bo$2o3$bo$b2o5bo$bo3$2o$o16bo$2o!


EDIT:
Wow.
x = 19, y = 41, rule = B2-an3aj4ar5aci8/S01c2-en3ejkn4j5aqry6k7e
2o$o17bo$2o3$bo$b2o5bo$bo3$2o$o17bo$2o16$2o$o$2o3$bo$b2o$bo3$2o$o$2o!


x = 19, y = 13, rule = B2-an3aj4ar5aci8/S01c2-en3ejkn4j5aqry6k7eHistory
2A$A17.C$2A3$.A$.2A5.C$.A3$2A$A17.C$2A!


Hey, another ship:
x = 18, y = 8, rule = B2-an3aj4ar5aci8/S01c2-en3ejkn4j5aqry6k7e
o9bo$2o8b2o5bo$o9bo3$bo8bo$b2o7b2o3bo$bo8bo!
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Re: Reflectorless Rotating Oscillators (RRO)

Postby 2718281828 » Yesterday, 10:08 am

I think this is the smallest period RRO, 1/2-fold with period 28/14:
x = 17, y = 22, rule = B2ack3enr4jq5in/S1e2i3ceky4jnt
2bo13bo$bo13bo$3o11b3o3$9b3o$10bo$9bo11$3bo$o2bo2$o!


Edit1:
There also exist a couple of rules with at least two different small RROs, some of them are stable, like this:
x = 54, y = 11, rule = B2ck3anqr4ikqr5aeiq6aik7/S1e2ai3-aciy4ajkry5n6-ce7c8
49b5o$22bo11bo14bobobo$o9bo9bo2bo8bo2bo14b3o$3o7b3o8b3o9b3o7b3o4b3o$bo
9bo10bo11bo9bo6bo3$6bo22bo$5b3o20b3o$7bo20bo2bo$29bo!
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Re: Reflectorless Rotating Oscillators (RRO)

Postby Saka » Yesterday, 10:13 am

Moosey wrote:Wow.
x = 19, y = 41, rule = B2-an3aj4ar5aci8/S01c2-en3ejkn4j5aqry6k7e
2o$o17bo$2o3$bo$b2o5bo$bo3$2o$o17bo$2o16$2o$o$2o3$bo$b2o$bo3$2o$o$2o!


This is really neat. The constellation of dots actually remains intact (Although a few more dots are added) and it produces 3 additional gliders, although I don't really see how the 2 that go behind the 3 glider group can be used directly, and the 3 glider group does change phase.

This could possibly lead to a spaceship.

Some random direct reactions found by hand
x = 30, y = 31, rule = B2-an3aj4ar5aci8/S01c2-en3ejkn4j5aqry6k7e
19b2o$19bo9bo$19b2o5$12b2o5b2o$12bo6bo9bo$12b2o5b2o5$11bo7b2o$11b2o6bo
9bo$11bo7b2o5$10bo8b2o$10b2o7bo9bo$10bo8b2o5$o9bo8b2o$2o8b2o7bo9bo$o9b
o8b2o!


Pull back dot 1 cell+spaceship
x = 23, y = 8, rule = B2-an3aj4ar5aci8/S01c2-en3ejkn4j5aqry6k7e
2b2o$2bo19bo$2b2o3$2o$o$2o!


Delete operation
x = 26, y = 4, rule = B2-an3aj4ar5aci8/S01c2-en3ejkn4j5aqry6k7e
2o15bo$o16b2o$2o15bo$8bo16bo!


Push dot by 7 cells
x = 37, y = 16, rule = B2-an3aj4ar5aci8/S01c2-en3ejkn4j5aqry6k7e
2o$o$2o4$16b2o$16bo19bo$16b2o3$15bo$15b2o$4b2o9bo$4bo$4b2o!
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x = 17, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
b2ob2obo5b2o$11b4obo$2bob3o2bo2b3o$bo3b2o4b2o$o2bo2bob2o3b4o$bob2obo5b
o2b2o$2b2o4bobo2b3o$bo3b5ob2obobo$2bo5bob2o$4bob2o2bobobo!

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Re: Reflectorless Rotating Oscillators (RRO)

Postby googoIpIex » Yesterday, 10:41 am

A period 840 RRO could be 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, and 8 fold
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Re: Reflectorless Rotating Oscillators (RRO)

Postby Moosey » Yesterday, 10:46 am

googoIpIex wrote:A period 840 RRO could be 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, and 8 fold

Unless it has a really tight orbit.
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Re: Reflectorless Rotating Oscillators (RRO)

Postby googoIpIex » Yesterday, 10:58 am

Moosey wrote:
googoIpIex wrote:A period 840 RRO could be 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, and 8 fold

Unless it has a really tight orbit.

I was just noting that it would bethe smallest possible period to be that fold.
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Re: Reflectorless Rotating Oscillators (RRO)

Postby 2718281828 » Yesterday, 11:00 am

Moosey wrote:
googoIpIex wrote:A period 840 RRO could be 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, and 8 fold

Unless it has a really tight orbit.

Yes, but finding a p840 RRO is more tricky than it looks like, and it is the smallest possible period, for 1/2/.../7 'only' 420 we be required, in a standard design one 1 quarter would have a period of 105 which is quite high.
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Re: Reflectorless Rotating Oscillators (RRO)

Postby 2718281828 » Yesterday, 11:31 am

Moosey wrote:The rule is explosive, however.
x = 18, y = 13, rule = B2-an3aj4ar5aci8/S01c2-en3ejkn4j5aqry6k7e
2o$o16bo$2o3$bo$b2o5bo$bo3$2o$o16bo$2o!


Yes,adding B5q makes it more stable
x = 18, y = 13, rule = B2-an3aj4ar5aciq8/S01c2-en3ejkn4j5aqry6k7e
2o$o16bo$2o3$bo$b2o5bo$bo3$2o$o16bo$2o!

still occasionally something like this might happen:
x = 498, y = 1, rule = B2-an3aj4ar5aciq8/S01c2-en3ejkn4j5aqry6k7e
2o3b4o2bo2bo3bobo5bob5o3bo2b2o3b4ob3obobo3b2ob3o2bo3bo2bo5b2o3bobo5b2o
2b2o2b2obo3bo3bobo3bob2o3bo3b2obo3bo4b2ob3o2b2ob3obob2ob2o4bo2b3o2b2o
2b3obob2o2bobob2o3b3ob2o5b3obobo2bobo3bobo2bo4bo5b4ob3obob2o2b2o8bobo
2bob2o4b3ob3obo2bob3ob3o2b4ob4o3bob2o2bob2o4b5o6bo2b5ob2ob3ob2ob4o2bob
5o2bo6bo2b3o2b6o3bo2b2o3bo4b2ob4obo2b5ob3o2bobo2bob2o2bo4bob4ob3o2bobo
b2o2bob2obo3bo3b4o3bo6b2ob2o!
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Re: Reflectorless Rotating Oscillators (RRO)

Postby Macbi » Yesterday, 2:48 pm

Does anyone in this thread know of an RRO that could be simulated by metacells in order to produce an RRO in Life, like I described in this post?
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