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Rule table request

PostPosted: August 31st, 2018, 10:20 am
by KittyTac
A rule like GOL, but with an extra state that acts like ordinary GOL, but all state 1 cells near state 2 die and state 2 cells can be born into state 1 cells. So state 2 ships are unstoppable by state 1.

Re: Rule table request

PostPosted: August 31st, 2018, 11:50 am
by wildmyron
KittyTac wrote:A rule like GOL, but with an extra state that acts like ordinary GOL, but all state 1 cells near state 2 die and state 2 cells can be born into state 1 cells. So state 2 ships are unstoppable by state 1.

Sounds interesting, but you've left a lot of ambiguity around how cells with both cell types as neighbours should behave. Here's an example collision - could you show how the pattern should evolve for the next few generations and it should then be pretty easy to make up a rule table:
x = 9, y = 4, rule = 23/3/3
B2.B$4.B2.A$B3.B.A.A$.4B2.A!


P. S. There is a good thread which you can use for these kind of requests.

Re: Rule table request

PostPosted: August 31st, 2018, 12:56 pm
by dvgrn
wildmyron wrote:P. S. There is a good thread which you can use for these kind of requests.

There are similar rules already asked for and posted on that thread. For example, RockScissorsPaperLife has State 1 spaceships that are unstoppable by State 2 (and State 2 spaceships unstoppable by State 3, and State 3 spaceships unstoppable by State 1). That's the reverse of this new request for states 1 and 2, but it's equivalent. Maybe the ThreeDeadlyEnemies or DeadlyEnemies rules would also be interesting, though they don't quite match the requested behavior either.

The only adjustment needed to the RockScissorsPaperLife rule table would be to add a transition to 0 for any "recessive" state that sees a "dominant" state as a neighbor. (And then just don't use State 3 -- unless you want to try a Rock Scissors Paper variant where each dominant state is recessive relative to the next state.)

Re: Rule table request

PostPosted: September 1st, 2018, 12:05 am
by KittyTac
wildmyron wrote:
KittyTac wrote:A rule like GOL, but with an extra state that acts like ordinary GOL, but all state 1 cells near state 2 die and state 2 cells can be born into state 1 cells. So state 2 ships are unstoppable by state 1.

Sounds interesting, but you've left a lot of ambiguity around how cells with both cell types as neighbours should behave. Here's an example collision - could you show how the pattern should evolve for the next few generations and it should then be pretty easy to make up a rule table:
x = 9, y = 4, rule = 23/3/3
B2.B$4.B2.A$B3.B.A.A$.4B2.A!


P. S. There is a good thread which you can use for these kind of requests.

The tub would be erased by the HWSS. It would plow right through like RockScissorsPaperLife.

I'll modify my request. Add 4 states to normal Life that act like the states from RockScissorsPaperLife, but move at lightspeed in 4 cardinal directions.

Re: Rule table request

PostPosted: September 1st, 2018, 1:21 am
by 77topaz
KittyTac wrote:I'll modify my request. Add 4 states to normal Life that act like the states from RockScissorsPaperLife, but move at lightspeed in 4 cardinal directions.


That's still too vague, as there are lots of rules/ways in which patterns can move at light speed in Life-like CA.

Re: Rule table request

PostPosted: September 1st, 2018, 2:06 am
by KittyTac
77topaz wrote:
KittyTac wrote:I'll modify my request. Add 4 states to normal Life that act like the states from RockScissorsPaperLife, but move at lightspeed in 4 cardinal directions.


That's still too vague, as there are lots of rules/ways in which patterns can move at light speed in Life-like CA.

I meant like the signals from particle rules. Basically 1-cell spaceships.

Re: Rule table request

PostPosted: September 1st, 2018, 3:03 am
by Hunting
I can make that rule table. But I'm busy.

Re: Rule table request

PostPosted: September 1st, 2018, 6:25 pm
by Redstoneboi
how about 2 cell spaceships, like the ones in brian’s brain, but thinner?
a head and a tail.

Re: Rule table request

PostPosted: September 1st, 2018, 8:53 pm
by Hunting
Redstoneboi wrote:how about 2 cell spaceships, like the ones in brian’s brain, but thinner?
a head and a tail.

That's easy to build.

Re: Rule table request

PostPosted: September 6th, 2018, 5:33 am
by Redstoneboi
Hunting wrote:
Redstoneboi wrote:how about 2 cell spaceships, like the ones in brian’s brain, but thinner?
a head and a tail.

That's easy to build.

alright.
go ahead and make a rule with a 2 cell lightspeed diagonal spaceship AND a 2 cell lightspeed orthogonal ship.

Re: Rule table request

PostPosted: September 6th, 2018, 5:44 am
by Saka
Redstoneboi wrote:alright.
go ahead and make a rule with a 2 cell lightspeed diagonal spaceship AND a 2 cell lightspeed orthogonal ship.

For the highlighted request, assuming it also means p1, 4 states is required for every direction except using radius 2, which us currently out of reach for golly ruletables.