B3/S1e23iqr

[Hdjensofjfnen]

A rule that looks like it might be as engineerable as dominoplex.
To start off, the rule has this xq2:

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B3/S1e23iqr
obo$o$obo!

Pseudo-heisenburps, which look promising:

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x = 8, y = 4, rule = B3/S1e23iqr
5b3o$obo$2bo2bobo$obo!

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x = 4, y = 9, rule = B3/S1e23iqr
bobo2$b3o4$2o$b2o$2o!

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x = 3, y = 9, rule = B3/S1e23iqr
obo2$3o4$2o$b2o$2o!

** EDIT: With B35y/S1e23iqr it's even more ridiculous:

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x = 3, y = 9, rule = B35y/S1e23iqr
obo2$3o4$2o$b2o$2o!

2G --> 4G superunity:

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x = 6, y = 9, rule = B3/S1e23iqr
3bobo2$3b3o4$2o$b2o$2o!

6-cell infinite growth:

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x = 3, y = 4, rule = B3/S1e23iqr
o$obo$obo$bo!

Two glider very big messes:

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x = 9, y = 4, rule = B3/S1e23iqr
6b3o$obo$2bo3bobo$obo!

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x = 8, y = 6, rule = B3/S1e23iqr
5bobo$5bo$5bobo$2o$b2o$2o!

Glider eater:

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x = 8, y = 3, rule = B3/S1e23iqr
5bobo$2o3bo$5bobo!

Domino toggle:

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x = 7, y = 5, rule = B3/S1e23iqr
4bobo$4bo$4bobo$o$o!

Glider piggy bank:

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x = 99, y = 6, rule = B3/S1e23iqr
b2o3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bob
o$o5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo$b2o3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo
3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo$96bobo$96bo$96bobo!

[googoIpIex]

how apgsearchable is this?
EDIT: It isn't. 3 soups/sec.

[Hdjensofjfnen]

how apgsearchable is this?
EDIT: It isn't. 3 soups/sec.

apgsearch must love these giant flowery reactions that set everything nearby on fire:

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x = 3, y = 1, rule = B3/S1e23iqr
3o!

And this stuff, too:

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x = 7, y = 7, rule = B3/S1e23iqr
4b3o$3bo2bo$2bo3bo$bo$o$o$obo!

EDIT: Which I believe is 10 cells at the least if I am not mistaken. You know it's bad when even LifeViewer is struggling.

[googoIpIex]

gun:

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x = 19, y = 3, rule = B3/S1e23iqr
8b3o$2o6bobo3b2ob2o$8b3o!

[Hdjensofjfnen]

gun:

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x = 19, y = 3, rule = B3/S1e23iqr
8b3o$2o6bobo3b2ob2o$8b3o!

I knew it wouldn't take long, given that at least nine or ten gliders fly from every soup.
EDIT: A different six-cell infinite growth (6c/13o) that probably makes apgsearch want to curl up and cry:

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x = 7, y = 4, rule = B3/S1e23iqr
o$o5bo$o5bo$6bo!

EDIT: In the sister rule with B5y, it's a quieter Sierpinski triangle generator:

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x = 7, y = 4, rule = B35y/S1e23iqr
o$o5bo$o5bo$6bo!

EDIT: I keep hitting "Quote" instead of "Edit"

[77topaz]

EDIT: A different six-cell infinite growth (6c/13o) that probably makes apgsearch want to curl up and cry:

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x = 7, y = 4, rule = B3/S1e23iqr
o$o5bo$o5bo$6bo!

Yeah, I think that one qualifies as an explosion.

[Hdjensofjfnen]

Yeah, I think that one qualifies as an explosion.

I think it's definitely one of the factors in making the rule unapgsearchable -- maybe the B5y variant is better suited for apgsearch? (ZZ_LINEAR would probably be thrown upon reaching the 6-cell Sierpinski generator.)

[googoIpIex]

This rule could use some refining, any transitions which could decrease explosiveness?

[77topaz]

This rule could use some refining, any transitions which could decrease explosiveness?

Depends on which things you want to preserve. Removing B3e removes the six-cell explosion and preserves two of the three pseudo-Heisenburps, but not the 2G->4G:

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x = 104, y = 76, rule = B3-e/S1e23iqr
o$o5bo$o5bo$6bo10$33b3o$28bobo$30bo2bobo$28bobo13$55bobo2$55b3o4$54b2o
$55b2o$54b2o8$76bobo2$76b3o4$76b2o$77b2o$76b2o14$101bobo2$101b3o4$98b
2o$99b2o$98b2o!

EDIT: Adding B8 is a better option:

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x = 104, y = 76, rule = B38/S1e23iqr
o$o5bo$o5bo$6bo10$33b3o$28bobo$30bo2bobo$28bobo13$55bobo2$55b3o4$54b2o
$55b2o$54b2o8$76bobo2$76b3o4$76b2o$77b2o$76b2o14$101bobo2$101b3o4$98b
2o$99b2o$98b2o!

It removes the six-cell explosion, preserves the three pseudo-Heisenburps and turns the 2G->4G into a 2G->6G.

This diagonal puffer works in both the original rule and the B8 variant:

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x = 38, y = 42, rule = B38/S1e23iqr
5b2o7$12b2o5$o$o$19b2o5$7bo$7bo$26b2o$26bobo2$32bobo$26bobo3bobo$14bo$
14bo15bo$29b3o$28bo2bo$27bo2bo$30bo$26bo2bo4b2o$26bo2bo6bo$27b5o3b3o$
30bo5bo$30b2o3$24b2o2$24b2o!

In the B3-e variant, it still works, but with a different trail.

EDIT 2: The B8 variant is apgsearchable, at a more reasonable speed (~70 soups/sec).

[Hdjensofjfnen]

This diagonal puffer works in both the original rule and the B8 variant:

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x = 38, y = 42, rule = B38/S1e23iqr
5b2o7$12b2o5$o$o$19b2o5$7bo$7bo$26b2o$26bobo2$32bobo$26bobo3bobo$14bo$
14bo15bo$29b3o$28bo2bo$27bo2bo$30bo$26bo2bo4b2o$26bo2bo6bo$27b5o3b3o$
30bo5bo$30b2o3$24b2o2$24b2o!

Please look up before you post. I posted a six-cell predecessor above.
EDIT: A new linear growth pattern from Catagolue:

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x = 16, y = 16, rule = B38/S1e23iqr
bbobbbbbbooobooo$
oobbobobboobbbbb$
bbbbbbobobbooooo$
oooboooboooboobo$
bbbbboobooboobob$
bobbbooobbobbobb$
oobobboboboobboo$
obbbboooooooobob$
oobboobboobobobb$
booobooboooooooo$
oobbobbobobooobb$
ooobbbobboboobbo$
boobbobobbobbbbo$
bbobbobbbobbbbbb$
bbbobobboboboooo$
bbobbobboobbbobb!

And a new tagalong:

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x = 16, y = 16, rule = B38/S1e23iqr
oboobbbobooooobo$
bbbbbbbobobobobo$
oobooboboooboboo$
ooobbbbobbobbobb$
boobboooobbobbob$
ooooobobooooobbb$
obbbbbobbbooobbo$
obobbooboooooobo$
boooooobobbbbooo$
ooboboobobobobob$
obbobobbbobbobbb$
booobobooboobooo$
bobobobboobbobbo$
oooobbbbbobobbob$
ooboobbooobbobbo$
obbboooobbobobob!

[googoIpIex]

EDIT: Some new linear growth patterns from Catagolue:

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pattern

2 things:
1. you're welcome
2. I wonder if we can make a cordership from those?

[77topaz]

Please look up before you post. I posted a six-cell predecessor above.

I was pointing out that it works in the B8 variant as well. And a rude statement like that is really rich coming from the person who continually failed to "look up" in the 5S thread. And that after I helped you by creating a non-explosive variant of your rule...

Anyway, do we have any Snarks yet? I think omniperiodicity may be achievable for this rule.

[Naszvadi]

gun:

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x = 19, y = 3, rule = B3/S1e23iqr
8b3o$2o6bobo3b2ob2o$8b3o!

Constructed p294 gun, with p147 glider stream stopped with a domino eater:

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#C p294 and a domino eater
x = 85, y = 55, rule = B3/S1e23iqr
45bo$45bo$19bo$18bobo$41b2o$43bo$19bo23bo2$16b3ob3o12b2o$18b3o14b2o$
11bo2bo4bo4bo2bo42bobo$2o9bob3o7b3obo44bo10b2o$11bo15bo42bobo$13b2o9b
2o$14b3o5b3o2$19bo$19bo2$19bo$19bo4$45bo$44b3o$43b3o8$44b3o$36b2ob2o3b
obo6b2o$44b3o8$43b3o$44b3o$45bo7$45bo$45bo!

[77topaz]

Natural breeder (in B8)!

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x = 16, y = 16, rule = B38/S1e23iqr
2o2bo5b3o2bo$obo2b2o2b5o$ob4o2bo3b3o$ob3o5bobo$bob4obo4b3o$obo3bobo3b
2o$3b2ob2obobob3o$5b3ob2o2bo$4o2bo2bo4bo$2b2obob9o$6o4bobo$bo5b2o2bobo
bo$bobo2bob3obo2bo$o9b3o2bo$2bo4bob2o3bo$5obobobo2b3o!

It's sufficiently rare for the rule not to be explosive, though. I like the way all the output puffers are aligned.

(The double-barrelled gun, unfortunately, does not work in either the B8 variant or the B3-e one. It seems to be quite difficult to find rules in which that gun works but not the explosive failedrep.)

EDIT: Found one:

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x = 62, y = 4, rule = B37c/S1e23iqr
o$o5bo44b3o$o5bo36b2o6bobo3b2ob2o$6bo44b3o!

It preserves the three pseudo-Heisenburps, but not the 2G->4G, which is turned into a less interesting 2G->1G:

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x = 104, y = 76, rule = B37c/S1e23iqr
o$o5bo$o5bo$6bo10$33b3o$28bobo$30bo2bobo$28bobo13$55bobo2$55b3o4$54b2o
$55b2o$54b2o8$76bobo2$76b3o4$76b2o$77b2o$76b2o14$101bobo2$101b3o4$98b
2o$99b2o$98b2o!

The diagonal puffer also does not work in this variant.

The B7c variant does appear to be stable, and apgsearches at a speed similar to the B8 one.

[googoIpIex]

Natural breeder (in B8)!

You're welcome. I'm running 2 searches for the B8 variant w/C1 symmetry, 1 search for D8_4, and one for D2_X.

[Moosey]

seed for the gun:

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x = 8, y = 3, rule = B3/S1e23iqr
6bo$2o3b3o$6bo!

Stabilization.alternate:

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x = 32, y = 4, rule = B3/S1e23iqr
25bo$6bo17b3o3b2o$2o3b3o17bo$6bo!

Neat reaction:

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x = 30, y = 15, rule = B3/S1e23iqr
24bo$24bo3$5bo18bo$2o2b3o2b2o8b2o2b3o2b2o$5bo18bo3$19b2o7b2o4$24bo$24b
o!

[Hdjensofjfnen]

Please look up before you post. I posted a six-cell predecessor above.

I was pointing out that it works in the B8 variant as well. And a rude statement like that is really rich coming from the person who continually failed to "look up" in the 5S thread. And that after I helped you by creating a non-explosive variant of your rule...

Anyway, do we have any Snarks yet? I think omniperiodicity may be achievable for this rule.

It certainly didn't look that way. And obviously on several occasions in the 5S thread I was clearly either
1) actually helping,
or 2) thinking I was actually helping because I read the database incorrectly.
The fact that other forumers think I'm just a good-for-nothing idiot is genuinely insulting.

[2718281828]

Some ships (c/3, 2c/5 and c/4):

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x = 139, y = 81, rule = B3/S1e23iqr
11$14b2o5b2o20b3o23bo25bo20b2o3b2o$12bo4bobo4bo16b2o3b2o19b2ob2o21b5o
17b4ob4o$12bo4bobo4bo14b2obobobob2o14b2obobobob2o16bo7bo$39bo2bo3bo2bo
13bo3bo3bo3bo15bo7bo15b3o3b3o$9b4obob2ob2obob4o9bo3b2o3b2o3bo15bo3bo
23bo19b2o5b2o$7bo3b2o3b2ob2o3b2o3bo6b2o3bo5bo3b2o8b2o2bo7bo2b2o14bo2bo
2bo17bobobobo$6b2obob2obo7bob2obob2o5b6o5b6o9bo3bo5bo3bo16bobobo12b2ob
o4bobo4bob2o$8b3o4b2o3b2o4b3o9bo3bo3bo3bo12bobo7bobo18bobo13bo2bob2obo
bob2obo2bo$9bo7bobo7bo13b7o12bo3b4o3b4o3bo13b7o13b2ob2o5b2ob2o$8b2o7bo
bo7b2o11bo7bo10b3o15b3o14b3o15bo2bo7bo2bo$7bo21bo12bo3bo12bo3b4o5b4o3b
o10bo2bobobo2bo11b2obobo3bobob2o$16bobobo20bo2bo2bo12bo3b2o7b2o3bo30b
2o4bobobobobo4b2o$16b5o20b2o3b2o13bo15bo12b2o7b2o10bo3bob2ob2obo3bo$
14b3obob3o18bo5bo15bo2b2o3b2o2bo14b5ob5o14b2o5b2o$40b2o5b2o42bo2bobo2b
o$39bo9bo41b2o5b2o$90bob2o3b2obo15b3ob3o$89b2ob2obob2ob2o11b2o3bobo3b
2o$91bo2b3o2bo15bo7bo$89b2o4bo4b2o11b2o9b2o$88b2o11b2o11b2obo3bob2o$
89b2obo5bob2o12b4o3b4o$88b2o2bo5bo2b2o10bo2bo5bo2bo$109b2obo13bob2o$
111b2o2bo7bo2b2o$109bo19bo$111bobo11bobo$110bo17bo$112b2o11b2o$114bo2b
5o2bo$115bo7bo$119bo$115b2o5b2o$117b5o$117bo3bo2$114b2o7b2o$116b3ob3o$
115b2obobob2o$118bobo2$112b5o5b5o$114bo9bo$112b2o11b2o2$111b2o4bo3bo4b
2o$113bo2bobobobo2bo$113bo11bo$112bo5bobo5bo$112bo4bo3bo4bo$110b2obobo
7bobob2o$113bobo7bobo$112b2obob2ob2obob2o$113bobo7bobo$110b2obobo7bobo
b2o$111bobobo7bobobo$112bo2bob2ob2obo2bo$111bobobo7bobobo$110b2obob2o
5b2obob2o$110b2o2bobo5bobo2b2o$112bo13bo!