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Re: Extended Life

PostPosted: December 13th, 2017, 7:35 am
by Saka
This toad puffer doesnt seem to work in LifeExtension yet works in ExtendedLives :?
x = 27, y = 21, rule = ExtendedLives
.D2.D$5.D$.D3.D$2.4D3$9.A$9.A$9.A$10.2A9.3A$6.A8.10A$7.2A5.A.4A.2A.2A
$A6.2A.2A3.3A.4A2BA$2A7.A3.3A2.2A.2BA2BA$2A10.3A4.2A4BA$.A9.A3.A3.3A
2B2A$16.2A2.A3.A$16.2A3.3D$13.3A4.5D$20.3D.2D$23.2D!

Re: Extended Life

PostPosted: December 13th, 2017, 8:58 am
by BlinkerSpawn
Saka wrote:This toad puffer doesnt seem to work in LifeExtension yet works in ExtendedLives :?
x = 27, y = 21, rule = ExtendedLives
.D2.D$5.D$.D3.D$2.4D3$9.A$9.A$9.A$10.2A9.3A$6.A8.10A$7.2A5.A.4A.2A.2A
$A6.2A.2A3.3A.4A2BA$2A7.A3.3A2.2A.2BA2BA$2A10.3A4.2A4BA$.A9.A3.A3.3A
2B2A$16.2A2.A3.A$16.2A3.3D$13.3A4.5D$20.3D.2D$23.2D!

...because they're different rules. I used always-on and always-off and the majority of the other posted variants used birthforcer and/or deathforcer.

Re: Extended Life

PostPosted: December 13th, 2017, 9:13 am
by jimmyChen2013
A satisfying chain-reaction

x = 248, y = 2400, rule = ExtendedLives
102.2A2.2A$103.2AB2A$99.3A.A.2B2A$103.ABAB2A$104.A.2A$99.2A3.4A$93.3A
4.A3.A$93.2A.2A3.3A2.2A$93.2A2.A3.2A.3A$95.6A4.2A$97.5A.2A$98.A.A129.
5A$101.A10.2A115.3A2B2A$108.A.6A113.2AB.BA$106.3A.2A2B2A114.A.ABA.A$
106.2A2.A.A2B115.5A.A$105.A.A.3AB.A116.A3.A7.2A$105.A2.A3.4A112.A5.A
7.A3.A$107.2A6.A113.3A9.A.5A$93.A9.A.A.2A4.A116.A12.A3BA$93.4A7.3A2.
2A2.A129.2A.BA$92.A.4A7.2A3.A2.A101.A24.A.2A.B2A$98.A5.3A107.A.A22.2A
2.5A$98.A6.4A104.A2.A23.A4.2A$94.A11.A.A105.2A25.A$106.A2.A$95.2A10.
3A$94.A12.3A9$200.A$199.A.A$198.A2.A$199.2A2$79.3A9$95.A.A$96.2A$96.A
90$220.2A$219.5A$217.3A2B2A$217.2A.A2B$218.2AB.A$217.2A.4A$218.2A3.A$
230.2A2.2A$231.2AB2A$231.A.2B2A$204.A26.ABAB2A$203.A.A24.A.A.2A$202.A
2.A24.5A$203.2A26.A.2A12$189.A$188.A.A$187.A2.A$188.2A103$208.A$206.
2A$205.A.5A$205.A.A3BA$207.2A.BA$205.3A.B2A$203.A2.5A$207.A.3A$206.3A
9.A.4A$206.3A9.3A2BA$218.2AB.BA$192.2A22.2A.A.ABA.A$191.A.A22.9A$191.
A.A22.2A.2A3.A$192.3A25.A.2A$193.2A$219.A9$178.A$177.A.A$176.A2.A$
177.2A105$195.A.2A$195.2AB2A$195.A.2B2A$193.A.ABAB2A$193.A2.A.3A$192.
A3.5A$193.A3.A9.4A$193.4A10.5A$181.2A24.2A2B2A$180.3A23.2A.A2BA$181.A
23.A.2AB.A$181.A.A21.A3.4A$181.A2.A20.A$180.A24.2A.2A$182.2A23.A9$
167.A$166.A.A$165.A2.A$166.2A106$184.4A$182.3A2B2A$182.2AB.B2A$183.A.
ABA$183.6A$183.2A3.A$186.A8.2A.2A$170.A.A10.A12.5A$170.A13.A9.A.A3BA$
170.A25.2A.BA$172.A19.A2.2A.B2A$170.A.A20.A.5A$169.A2.A25.2A$169.A$
170.A8$156.A36.A$155.A.A$154.A2.A33.3A$155.2A106$171.4A$169.7A$168.2A
.2A2B2A$167.2A2.A.A2BA$169.4AB.2A$167.3A3.4A$162.2A3.4A4.A$161.6A5.4A
8.4A$160.7A.2A.A.A6.A.4AB2A$161.4A8.3A4.A.A.A.2B2A$162.A9.A5.A.3A.ABA
B2A$173.A5.A2.A2.A.3A$160.A20.A3.5A$159.2A22.A.A2.A$159.A.A19.A.3A.2A
$181.A.2A.2A$183.2A.A$181.2A$181.2A$180.3A$180.4A$179.5A$145.A34.3A$
144.A.A34.A$143.A2.A$144.2A107$160.A2.A$158.A.5A$157.A2.A3BA$156.2A2.
2A.BA$156.2A.2A.B2A$157.A.4A$151.A.A4.A5.A$150.2A2.A3.2A9.A.A.4A$151.
A2.A4.A.A.2A4.A3.A2B2A$152.2A6.A.A5.A3.AB.BA$155.6A8.A2.A.ABA$155.A3.
A7.2A3.6A$149.2A8.A5.3A.2A.2A$149.A.A5.A9.A2.2A4.A$149.A14.A2.A4.4A$
167.A5.2A$166.2A$169.2A$168.A2.A$168.A$169.3A$134.A35.A$133.A.A$132.A
2.A$133.2A107$148.A$147.A3.2A$148.2AB2A$144.2A2.A.2B2A$142.5A.ABAB2A$
142.2A.A3.A.3A$140.2A3.2A2.5A$139.3A.2A.3A3.A7.4A$147.A3.A7.7A$139.3A
4.A3.2A5.2A.2A2B2A$143.A13.A2.A.A2B$144.4A12.2AB.A$145.3A11.A2.3A.A$
139.2A13.2A2.2A5.A$138.2A14.2A.A.2A.A$140.A13.2A4.4A$155.A3.A2.2A$
156.A2.A.2A$161.2A$157.A.2A$157.A.2A$123.A33.A.A$122.A.A$121.A2.A$
122.2A109$135.6A$137.A2BA$132.A.A.AB.BA$134.3A.ABA$130.2A4.6A$129.A2.
4A.A$129.A3.A.A4.A8.A$129.A.A2.3A.2A7.A.5A$134.A2.A8.A2.A3BA$133.A12.
A2.2A.BA$134.A.A8.A2.2A.B2A$143.A2.A2.3A.A$128.3A15.3A.A2.A$128.A14.A
.2A.A.2A$129.A14.A2.2A$148.A2.A$146.A2.A$149.A$146.3A$112.A$111.A.A$
110.A2.A$111.2A109$126.2A$123.A.4A$122.A.2A2B2A$124.A.A2B$121.2A.2AB.
A$120.2A.2A.3A.A$119.3A7.A7.A$120.7A9.A3.A$121.6A10.2AB2A$137.A.2B2A$
134.2A.ABAB2A$134.2A2.A.2A$119.A14.2A.4A$118.2A14.2A.A3.A$118.A.A13.
2A2.A.A$134.5A$135.3A$136.A2$101.A$100.A.A$99.A2.A$100.2A109$113.2A$
112.A3.A$111.A.5A$113.A3BA$113.2A.BA$110.A.2A.B2A$109.2A2.5A$110.A4.
2A$111.A13.5A$124.3A2B2A$124.2AB.BA$125.A.ABA.A$125.5A.A$108.2A16.A3.
A$108.A.A12.A5.A$108.A15.3A$125.A3$90.A$89.A.A$88.A2.A$89.2A111$100.
2A2.2A$101.2AB2A$101.A.2B2A$101.ABAB2A$100.A.A.2A$100.5A$101.A.2A10.
2A$114.5A$112.3A2B2A$112.2A.A2B$113.2AB.A$112.2A.4A$98.2A13.2A3.A$97.
2A$99.A3$79.A$78.A.A$77.A2.A$78.2A112$88.A.4A$88.3A2BA$88.2AB.BA$86.
2A.A.ABA.A$86.9A$86.2A.2A3.A8.A$90.A.2A7.2A$100.A.5A$89.A10.A.A3BA$
102.2A.BA$100.3A.B2A$98.A2.5A$87.3A12.A.3A$87.A13.3A$88.A12.3A2$68.A$
67.A.A$66.A2.A$67.2A112$77.4A$77.5A$77.2A2B2A$76.2A.A2BA$75.A.2AB.A$
75.A3.4A$75.A$75.2A.2A10.A.2A$77.A12.2AB2A$90.A.2B2A$88.A.ABAB2A$88.A
2.A.3A$78.A8.A3.5A$77.2A9.A3.A$77.A.A8.4A2$57.A$56.A.A$55.A2.A$56.2A
113$65.2A.2A$66.5A$64.A.A3BA$66.2A.BA$62.A2.2A.B2A$63.A.5A$68.2A$79.
4A$77.3A2B2A$77.2AB.B2A$78.A.ABA$78.6A$67.2A9.2A3.A$67.A13.A$67.A4.A
5.A$46.A22.A2.A6.A$45.A.A15.A6.A$44.A2.A$45.2A14.3A114$54.4A$50.A.4AB
2A$50.A.A.A.2B2A$48.A.3A.ABAB2A$49.A2.A2.A.3A$51.A3.5A$53.A.A2.A7.4A$
51.A.3A.2A5.7A$51.A.2A.2A5.2A.2A2B2A$53.2A.A5.2A2.A.A2BA$51.2A11.4AB.
2A$51.2A9.3A3.4A$50.3A3.2A4.4A4.A$50.4A2.2A.3A5.4A$35.A13.5A2.A2.3A.
2A.A.A$34.A.A13.3A5.2A8.3A$33.A2.A14.A15.A$34.2A32.A115$39.A.A.4A$39.
A3.A2B2A$38.A3.AB.BA$39.A2.A.ABA$37.2A3.6A$35.3A.2A.2A$37.A2.2A4.A8.A
2.A$34.A2.A4.4A7.A.5A$37.A5.2A7.A2.A3BA$36.2A13.2A2.2A.BA$39.2A10.2A.
2A.B2A$38.A2.A10.A.4A$38.A6.2A.A4.A5.A$24.A14.3A4.A2.A3.2A$23.A.A14.A
5.A2.A4.A.A.2A$22.A2.A21.2A6.A.A$23.2A25.6A$50.A3.A$54.A$52.A112$30.
4A$29.7A$27.2A.2A2B2A$27.A2.A.A2B$30.2AB.A$29.A2.3A.A$24.2A2.2A5.A7.A
$24.2A.A.2A.A9.A3.2A$24.2A4.4A9.2AB2A$25.A3.A2.2A5.2A2.A.2B2A$26.A2.A
.2A4.5A.ABAB2A$31.2A4.2A.A3.A.3A$27.A.2A4.2A3.2A2.5A$13.A13.A.2A3.3A.
2A.3A3.A$12.A.A12.A.A12.A3.A$11.A2.A19.3A4.A3.2A$12.2A24.A$39.4A$40.
3A114$19.A$17.A.5A$16.A2.A3BA$16.A2.2A.BA$15.A2.2A.B2A$13.A2.A2.3A.A$
16.3A.A2.A$13.A.2A.A.2A8.6A$14.A2.2A13.A2BA$18.A2.A5.A.A.AB.BA$16.A2.
A9.3A.ABA$19.A5.2A4.6A$2.A13.3A5.A2.4A.A$.A.A20.A3.A.A4.A$A2.A20.A.A
2.3A.2A$.2A26.A2.A$28.A$29.A.A!

Re: Extended Life

PostPosted: December 13th, 2017, 9:24 am
by Saka
BlinkerSpawn wrote:...because they're different rules. I used always-on and always-off and the majority of the other posted variants used birthforcer and/or deathforcer.

No, Jimmy made a "update version" with the birthforce, toggle, and deathforce and it's also called ExtendedLives.

Re: Extended Life

PostPosted: January 16th, 2018, 1:53 pm
by A for awesome
5x5 p19:
x = 5, y = 5, rule = extendedlife
2.2E$4.F$E2A.E$F3.F$EFEFE!

Re: Extended Life

PostPosted: March 19th, 2018, 1:16 am
by jimmyChen2013
Simple oscillators in the extended states tend to last millions of generations, and finally stabilize into oscillators
this is too much for my mac air

Re: Extended Life

PostPosted: March 19th, 2018, 9:33 am
by jimmyChen2013
Results from my hunt for weird things
this rule basically allows you to make whatever you what
in my case, ships with long periods
like 144c/1008
x = 28, y = 29, rule = ExtendedLives
10.2D$12.D$13.D$10.3D$10.D$16.D3.A$15.D.D.A.A$11.2D2.D2.D$10.2D.D2.2D
6.3A$19.A.A.A.A$2D.D2.2D11.2CAC2.2CA$.2D2.D2.D8.2A.2C2.C2.C$5.D.D6.2A
3.A2.2AC.CA$6.D10.A.A5.C.A$D12.A3.A.C3.2A.A$3D16.3C2.2A$3.D10.A3.2A2.
C$2.D13.2A3.CA$2D17.2CA$19.A.A$10.2D.D2.2D$11.2D2.D2.D$15.D.D$16.D$
10.D$10.3D$13.D$12.D$10.2D!


or 615c/4305
x = 30, y = 48, rule = ExtendedLives
22.2D$21.D2.D$23.2D$21.D.2D2$10.D.D8.D5.D$10.D.D2.2D11.2D$9.D.D3.2D5.
D.D3.2D$15.2D.A4.D.D2.2D$8.D5.D2.A3.A.D.D$19.4A$8.D.2D3.2A.2A2B2A$10.
2D3.2A.AB2AB2A$.2D5.D2.D6.A.A2B2A$D2.D5.2D6.2ABA2B4A$2.2D13.A.A.3A.3A
$D.2D10.2A.2AB2A.2AB.A$15.A3.A.A2.2A2B2A$D5.D8.2A2.ABAB3A2BA$7.2D8.4A
B.B2A2B2A$.D.D3.2D9.3AB.B2A.2A$2.D.D2.2D12.7A$2.D.D18.A3.A3$2.D.D18.A
3.A$2.D.D2.2D12.7A$.D.D3.2D9.3AB.B2A.2A$7.2D8.4AB.B2A2B2A$D5.D8.2A2.A
BAB3A2BA$15.A3.A.A2.2A2B2A$D.2D10.2A.2AB2A.2AB.A$2.2D13.A.A.3A.3A$D2.
D5.2D6.2ABA2B4A$.2D5.D2.D6.A.A2B2A$10.2D3.2A.AB2AB2A$8.D.2D3.2A.2A2B
2A$19.4A$8.D5.D2.A3.A.D.D$15.2D.A4.D.D2.2D$9.D.D3.2D5.D.D3.2D$10.D.D
2.2D11.2D$10.D.D8.D5.D2$21.D.2D$23.2D$21.D2.D$22.2D!


a p196 back rake
x = 23, y = 40, rule = ExtendedLives
.2D$.2D$D2.D$3D$D$6.D$.D2.2D.D2.2A2.2A$D.D.2D2.D3.3A.A$D.D2.3D2.A.A2B
A.A$10.A.A2B3A$11.AB2ABA$11.A3B2A2.A$11.AB3A.3A$10.4A2.2AB3A$10.3AB2A
2BAB2A$9.A.AB.BA2B2AB2A$9.A.AB.B2A3B3A$11.4A2.5A$7.2A.A.A4.A$6.A2.2A
2.A$6.A2.2A2.A$7.2A.A.A4.A$11.4A2.5A$9.A.AB.B2A3B3A$9.A.AB.BA2B2AB2A$
10.3AB2A2BAB2A$10.4A2.2AB3A$11.AB3A.3A$11.A3B2A2.A$11.AB2ABA$10.A.A2B
3A$D.D2.3D2.A.A2BA.A$D.D.2D2.D3.3A.A$.D2.2D.D2.2A2.2A$6.D$D$3D$D2.D$.
2D$.2D!


a Block puffer (might be useful)
x = 54, y = 39, rule = ExtendedLives
31.2D$30.D2.D$30.D2.D$29.2D.D$30.D$35.2D$31.D.2D2.D3.2A.2A$30.D.D5.D.
A.5A$33.5D4.A2BA.A$36.D2.3AB2.B2A$39.A.AB2ABA$39.A.2B.B2A2.2A$2A9.2A
9.2A9.2A4.A.AB3A.3A.A$2A9.2A9.2A9.2A4.A.6A2B2A.A$39.A.2ABA2B.AB2A.A$
41.ABABA2.2ABA$41.A.A.5B3A$40.8AB2A$41.2A.2A4.A2$41.2A.2A4.A$40.8AB2A
$41.A.A.5B3A$41.ABABA2.2ABA$39.A.2ABA2B.AB2A.A$2A9.2A9.2A9.2A4.A.6A2B
2A.A$2A9.2A9.2A9.2A4.A.AB3A.3A.A$39.A.2B.B2A2.2A$39.A.AB2ABA$36.D2.3A
B2.B2A$33.5D4.A2BA.A$30.D.D5.D.A.5A$31.D.2D2.D3.2A.2A$35.2D$30.D$29.
2D.D$30.D2.D$30.D2.D$31.2D!


... or a p3752 super-slow blinker puffer
x = 45, y = 41, rule = ExtendedLives
20.2D$20.2D$19.D2.D$19.3D$19.D$25.D$20.D2.2D.D2.2A2.2A$3A16.D.D.2D2.D
3.3A.A$19.D.D2.3D2.A.A2BA.A$31.A2B3A$2.2D25.2AB2ABA$2.2D24.A.A3B2A2.A
$.D2.D20.A.2A.AB3A.3A$.3D20.2A2.A.3A2.2AB2A.2A$.D26.A.2AB2A2BAB5A$7.D
15.A2.A3.AB.BA2B2AB5A$2.D2.2D.D15.A3.A.AB.B2A3B2A2.A$.D.D.2D2.D14.A.
2A2.4A2.4A.2A$.D.D2.3D24.2A4.3A4$.D.D2.3D24.2A4.3A$.D.D.2D2.D14.A.2A
2.4A2.4A.2A$2.D2.2D.D15.A3.A.AB.B2A3B2A2.A$7.D15.A2.A3.AB.BA2B2AB5A$.
D26.A.2AB2A2BAB5A$.3D20.2A2.A.3A2.2AB2A.2A$.D2.D20.A.2A.AB3A.3A$2.2D
24.A.A3B2A2.A$2.2D25.2AB2ABA$31.A2B3A$19.D.D2.3D2.A.A2BA.A$3A16.D.D.
2D2.D3.3A.A$20.D2.2D.D2.2A2.2A$25.D$19.D$19.3D$19.D2.D$20.2D$20.2D!

Re: Extended Life

PostPosted: March 20th, 2018, 1:00 am
by fluffykitty
Rake:
x = 29, y = 29, rule = ExtendedLives
2.A$2.5A$A.A3BA$2.2A.BA$3A.B2A$A.3A.A$2A.2A.A$.2A3$10.6A$12.A2BA$10.
2AB.BA$10.2A.ABA$9.A.6A$9.2A.A$10.3A.A9.A$24.5A$22.A.A3BA$24.2A.BA$
22.3A.B2A$22.A.3A.A$11.3A8.2A.2A.A$11.A11.2A$12.A4$7.2A!

Re: Extended Life

PostPosted: March 20th, 2018, 1:10 am
by jimmyChen2013
Nice
I feel that we could find a breeder that fires this rake
won't be TOO hard?

EDIT: I just love breeders

x = 30, y = 26, rule = ExtendedLives
12.A$12.5A$10.A.A3BA$12.2A.BA$10.3A.B2A$10.A.3A.A$10.2A.2A.A$11.2A$
23.6A$25.A2BA$23.2AB.BA$23.2A.ABA$22.A.6A$22.2A.A$23.3A.A9$3D$2.D$.D!


x = 35, y = 27, rule = ExtendedLives
17.A$17.5A$15.A.A3BA$17.2A.BA$15.3A.B2A$15.A.3A.A$15.2A.2A.A$16.2A$
28.6A$30.A2BA$28.2AB.BA$28.2A.ABA$27.A.6A$27.2A.A$28.3A.A10$3D2.3D2.
3D$2.D4.D4.D$.D4.D4.D!


mildly interest
x = 19, y = 24, rule = ExtendedLives
14.A2.A$13.A.2CA$15.A2C$14.AC2.A2$14.2A16$3D$2.D$.D!


backrake
x = 18, y = 22, rule = ExtendedLives
13.A2.A$12.A.2CA$14.A2C$13.AC2.A2$13.2A14$3D$2.D$.D!

Re: Extended Life

PostPosted: March 20th, 2018, 2:17 am
by jimmyChen2013
2 more rules!

The first rule is where the extended states integrated, meaning that each extra states recognizes other states to survive
@RULE ExtendedLivesIntegrated
0: Vaccuumm
1: Normal
2: Birthforce
3: Both Combined
4: Deathforce
@TABLE
n_states:5
neighborhood:Moore
symmetries:permute

var a = {0,1}
var b = {0,1}
var c = {0,1}
var d = {0,1}
var e = {0,1}
var f = {0,1}
var g = {0,1}
var h = {0,1}

var i = {0,1,2,3,4}
var j = {i}
var k = {i}
var l = {i}
var m = {i}
var n = {i}
var o = {i}
var p = {i}

#all states
var q = {2,3,4}
var q1 = {q}
var q2 = {q}
var q3 = {q}
#all birth states
var r = {2,3}
#all death states
var s = {3,4}



#birthforcer life
a,q,q,q,b,c,d,e,f,q

q,q1,q2,q3,b,c,d,e,f,q
q,q1,q2,a,b,c,d,e,f,q

q,i,j,k,l,m,n,o,p,0

#life birthforcer gen
0,r,i,j,k,l,m,n,o,1

#life deathforcer gen
1,s,i,j,k,l,m,n,o,0

#life normal
0,1,1,1,0,0,0,0,0,1

1,1,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,1
1,1,1,1,0,0,0,0,0,1

1,a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,0

@COLORS
1 255 255 255
2 80 255 80
3 70 178 167
4 75 70 255


this allows something like this to exist:
x = 2, y = 2, rule = ExtendedLivesIntegrated
BC$DB!

but how they are born I've left unchanged, so not an integrated glider


the other rule has a small change. when a extended state dies, a normal life cell is born when the condition is right
@RULE ExtendedLives2
0: Vaccuumm
1: Normal
2: Birthforce
3: Both Combined
4: Deathforce
@TABLE
n_states:5
neighborhood:Moore
symmetries:permute

var a = {0,1}
var b = {0,1}
var c = {0,1}
var d = {0,1}
var e = {0,1}
var f = {0,1}
var g = {0,1}
var h = {0,1}

var i = {0,1,2,3,4}
var j = {i}
var k = {i}
var l = {i}
var m = {i}
var n = {i}
var o = {i}
var p = {i}

var a1 = {0,2,3,4}
var a2 = {a1}
var a3 = {a1}
var a4 = {a1}
var a5 = {a1}

#all states
var q = {2,3,4}
#all birth states
var r = {2,3}
#all death states
var s = {3,4}



#birthforcer life
a,q,q,q,b,c,d,e,f,q

q,q,q,q,b,c,d,e,f,q
q,q,q,a,b,c,d,e,f,q

q,1,1,1,a1,a2,a3,a4,a5,1
q,i,j,k,l,m,n,o,p,0

#life birthforcer gen
0,r,i,j,k,l,m,n,o,1

#life deathforcer gen
1,s,i,j,k,l,m,n,o,0

#life normal
0,1,1,1,0,0,0,0,0,1

1,1,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,1
1,1,1,1,0,0,0,0,0,1

1,a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,0

@COLORS
1 255 255 255
2 80 255 80
3 70 178 167
4 75 70 255

this has subtle (not rly) changes in the rules, like state 3 glider:
x = 3, y = 3, rule = ExtendedLives2
3C$2.C$.C!

x = 3, y = 3, rule = ExtendedLives
3C$2.C$.C!

Re: Extended Life

PostPosted: March 20th, 2018, 2:31 am
by 77topaz
Just to note, you misspelled "Integrated" in the title of your rule "ExtendedLivesInegrated".

Re: Extended Life

PostPosted: March 20th, 2018, 2:35 am
by jimmyChen2013
77topaz wrote:Just to note, you misspelled "Integrated" in the title of your rule "ExtendedLivesInegrated".

dont know how i managed to spell both wrong, but fixed

Re: Extended Life

PostPosted: October 27th, 2018, 1:27 pm
by Billabob
I wrote a simple search program and found 1,560 oscillators that use the "blocker" cells. Here are some rare periods:

x = 213, y = 268, rule = extendedlife
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A11.A.2A2.E10.A2.E8.A4.AE4.E8.A10.A.E$56.E2.A7.EA3.AE5.E4A2.E20.3A10.
A4.AE12.E7.A3.A11.E$58.A.A7.A3.AE8.2A7.2E.E11.E3A10.A4.A10.2E9.2AE2AE
5.E.A$58.A.A7.A3.A8.E65.E11.E2A12.E$59.A9.EAE36.E13.3A$59.E2$116.A.A$
116.2A$117.A2$114.E3$92.2AE22.E84.EA$161.E.A20.E17.2A$92.A.A13.E40.E
6.A5.A.AE7.E14.E10.E2.2A.A$71.E21.A9.E31.2E8.E10.A7.A8.A.E7.E22.2A$
59.E.E23.E50.2A17.A2.2A.A.3A6.3A13.A8.E2A5.A.A$45.E.E.E21.3AE6.3A7.E
3.E9.A.A8.E.A.E13.A.A.A10.3A6.2A6.E3.EA.A.A.E4.E3.3A.E11.A3.A$45.E.E.
E4.E3.3A3.E3.E.A2.2A4.EA3.A.E17.E.A3.E7.A13.3A2.2AE9.A.AE13.E4.A.A.A
12.A9.E2A.A.2AE$45.3E.E8.A.A18.EA3.A.E19.A10.A.A14.A2.3A5.E4.2AE19.3A
E24.A3.A$47.E.E3.E4.3A9.EA.2AE4.A3.A5.E.3A8.E32.A.A11.2AE5.E14.A11.E
14.E3A.E$47.E.E12.E8.A2.A6.3A8.3A.E13.E4.E6.E10.E2.2A9.E22.E30.3A$53.
E6.E11.2A8.E10.A10.E30.2E13.E21.E14.E$57.2E13.E18.E17.E5.E4.E40.E39.E
$119.E12.E$94.E12.E23.E3A$56.E75.A.A$58.A73.3A.E35.EA$56.2A.AE10.A10.
E47.E30.E9.E3A9.E.2AE15.3A$55.EA2.A9.E3.A17.E4.E20.E29.E24.3A11.2A2.
2A8.E2.A$54.E2A.A9.A4.AE5.E.3A22.E10.2A44.2A10.E5.E6.3A12.A2.A$55.A4.
E5.E6.AE10.A21.A9.3AE10.E3AE9.E3.E9.E2.A3.A3.E11.E8.E7.E2.2A2.A$56.3A
.E6.A.A.A9.EA2.AE18.E3A6.EA3.A11.A.A12.A14.A2.A16.E5.A.A15.E$54.E2.A.
AE7.A.2AE9.A.A.E10.E7.A.A.AE7.A.A10.E3A11.3A10.E5.E6.3A2.E10.A11.E2.A
$58.2AE10.E11.A11.A8.3A.2AE4.EA3.AE22.E2A.2A2.E8.A.2A5.E.3A11.E14.E2.
A$55.E10.E14.E2A2.E6.2A.AE7.A.A.A7.2A27.3A10.E2.2A9.A30.AE$93.2A.AE5.
E2.3A6.E31.A14.A.E$58.E25.E6.E.2A.A10.E24.AE41.E$95.A8.E27.2A13.2E2.E
21.E$95.E23.E12.EA$57.E$58.A10.E4.E$58.A8.E3.E$58.2AE6.3A3.2A$53.E12.
A2.A3.A$55.2A3.AE2.EA8.A$54.A3.A.AE4.A2.A5.E$55.2A.2A6.E3A3.2A$56.E.E
9.E2.E5$134.E5.E41.E$99.E2.E64.E16.2E$58.E.E23.E2.E10.E67.2A3.A.A11.A
$55.E32.A15.E25.E2.3A29.E.A2.2A.A5.E4.3A$45.E.3E.E19.E.3E.3E7.A.A.E5.
E.A4.E8.E.3E.E.E13.A.A2.E8.E.E.E.E11.A.A13.2A.2AE$45.E.E.E.E4.E14.E.E
.E3.E2.E3.A3.A6.E3A12.E.E.E.E.E15.A11.E.E.E.E11.A.A.A3.E8.3A$45.E.E.E
.E4.E2A2.AE8.E.E.E.3E6.A3.A.E4.EA.A2.E9.E.E.E.3E27.E.E.3E9.E2A.A12.2E
.A$45.E.E.E.E5.A2.A.A8.E.E.E.E9.3A9.3A11.E.E.E3.E27.E.E3.E11.A2.E14.E
$45.E.3E.E5.A4.A.E6.E.3E.3E3.E4.E9.E3.E10.E.3E3.E12.E14.E.E3.E10.E$
56.E2.3A2.E20.E4.E$57.E.3A2.E37.E24.E2A$57.E70.2A$61.E8$102.E$62.6E
33.2A$63.A.A26.2A7.2A$64.A.A25.2A10.E$45.E.3E.3E6.E2.2A.A7.E.E.E.E.E
8.E13.A$45.E3.E.E12.2A4.E3.E.E.E.E.E21.2A$45.E.3E.3E9.E10.E.3E.3E18.
4A$45.E.E5.E10.E9.E3.E3.E16.E.2A3.E$45.E.3E.3E15.E4.E3.E3.E19.E$104.E
$67.E!


Hopefully some of these can be stabilised with sparkers or catalysts. I can provide more oscillators upon request - I have all periods under 103, except for 78, 80, 82, 91, 94, 97 and 99.

Re: Extended Life

PostPosted: November 13th, 2018, 4:29 pm
by Billabob
Hello again. I apologise for double posting, but I've decided to release my script and every oscillator it found. Be warned: my code is NOT for the faint of heart.

greycellsoscs.zip
Oscillator collection, re-compressed and uploaded by your friendly neighborhood dvgrn to dodge the size limit
(3.05 MiB) Downloaded 92 times


Many of the oscillators are hopeless - especially the ones with blocker cells buried inside the rotor. Some oscillators can be chained together, requiring only a couple of grey cells per link. (Notably including a P38 traffic-lights hassler that can be seen in the previous post). There doesn't seem to be much interest in using related rules to help find patterns in Life, but hopefully at least one of you finds this post useful.

Re: Extended Life

PostPosted: January 13th, 2019, 11:16 am
by PHPBB12345
x = 12, y = 18, rule = extendedlife
EFE5.EFE$A2.A$A$A3.A$A3.A6.E$A10.E$A2.A$EFE3$7.3A.E$7.A2.AE$7.A.2AE$
11.E$2.2A$.EA8.E$.EA$2.2A!

Re: Extended Life

PostPosted: January 13th, 2019, 6:02 pm
by cvojan
stuff based off a p14
x = 74, y = 45, rule = extendedlife
53.C$C.D.C7.C.D.C8.C.D.C8.C.D.C11.C.D.C10.C.D.C$.F.F9.F.F10.F.F10.F.F
13.F.F12.F.F$37.C5.C$23.C7.C2$14.F10.C.F.C$11.C5.C52.F.F$27.A8.C2.F.F
2.C10.F4.C$14.F12.A$27.A3$38.E3.E19.C2$25.C.F.C7.C5.C$37.E.F.F.E$23.C
3.A3.C$26.A.A$12.E3.E9.FAF$14.E10.CADAC$26.3A$36.C7.C$36.C7.C$40.A$
40.A$40.A3$37.E.F.F.E$37.C5.C2$38.E3.E5$36.C2.F.F2.C5$37.C5.C$39.F.F$
38.C.D.C!

EDIT: a wire
x = 11, y = 76, rule = extendedlife
5.A$2.C.A.A.C$2.C.F.F.C$5.A$3.C3.C2$5.A$2.C.A.A.C$2.C.F.F.C$5.A$3.C3.
C2$5.A$2.C.A.A.C$2.C.F.F.C$5.A$3.C3.C2$5.A$2.C.A.A.C$2.C.F.F.C$5.A$3.
C3.C2$5.A$2.C.A.A.C$2.C.F.F.C$5.A$3.C3.C2$5.A$2.C.A.A.C$2.C.F.F.C$5.A
$3.C3.C2$5.A$2.C.A.A.C$2.C.F.F.C$5.A$3.C3.C2$5.A$2.C.A.A.C$2.C.F.F.C$
5.A$3.C3.C2$5.A$2.C.A.A.C$2.C.F.F.C$5.A$3.C3.C4$5.F5$3.F3.F$C9.C3$2.C
5.C$4.F.F7$4.F.F$3.C.D.C!

EDIT 2: A G-to-B+G:
x = 32, y = 31, rule = extendedlife
.A$2.A$3A11$26.C5$13.C15.C2$30.E$9.A$8.A$7.2A$9.A15.F$9.A3$30.A$31.A$
29.2A!

Re: Extended Life

PostPosted: January 14th, 2019, 5:57 am
by Hunting
x = 3, y = 3, rule = ExtendedLife
B.B2$B.B!

Re: Extended Life

PostPosted: January 14th, 2019, 6:19 am
by Hunting
Probably useless
x = 7, y = 23, rule = ExtendedLife
2.2A$2.2A5$2.3A2$A5.A$A5.A$3.B$A2.B2.A$3.B$A5.A$A5.A2$2.3A5$2.2A$2.2A
!


x = 7, y = 5, rule = ExtendedLife
.5A$3.B$A2.B2.A$3.B$.5A!

Re: Extended Life

PostPosted: January 27th, 2019, 6:46 pm
by Moosey
Found accidentally, sometime last year.
x = 7, y = 6, rule = extendedlife
3.A$2.A.A$C2AG2AC$C.3A.C$C5.C$7C!

The file was saved as "p451 double barreled gun discovered accidentally".
The viewer should support this ruletable, though it would probably be a hassle to get it to do so.
EDIT in response to muzik:
yeah, I figured as much

Re: Extended Life

PostPosted: January 27th, 2019, 7:03 pm
by muzik
Moosey wrote:Found accidentally, sometime last year.
x = 7, y = 6, rule = extendedlife
3.A$2.A.A$C2AG2AC$C.3A.C$C5.C$7C!

The file was saved as "p451 double barreled gun discovered accidentally".
The viewer should support this ruletable, though it would probably be a hassle to get it to do so.

It'd be interesting to see LifeViewer simulate arbritrary extended rules like it does history rules, but that'd probably not be too easy to do.

Re: Extended Life

PostPosted: February 11th, 2019, 2:20 pm
by Moosey
Another thing, found somewhat accidentally a few minutes ago:
It’s a gun. (Technically it’s a predecessor to a gun but whatever)
x = 79, y = 16, rule = extendedlife
77.A$76.A.A$76.A.A$77.A3$45.B3$33.B3$.A$A.A$A.A$.A!

Re: Extended Life

PostPosted: February 18th, 2019, 7:12 pm
by Moosey
An enormous collection of oscillators of period 6 or above, which I compiled:
x = 127, y = 987, rule = extendedlife
42.A$8.3E30.A.A$8.E12.A.A.A15.F.A$8.3E9.A.3F.A10.F2.F.A$8.E.E9.AF.F.F
A9.A.3F$8.3E10.2FA2F10.A.A.2A$37.A8$86.2A$86.2A3$51.A13.A$8.3E34.A.A
2.A.A11.A.A17.E2F.E$10.E11.5H14.A3.3F3.A8.A3.3F3.A15.F$10.E29.A.A2.A.
A11.A.A2.A.A2.A.A14.F$10.E30.A18.A9.A14.AF$10.E75.F$85.EF$86.2F5$8.3E
$8.E.E14.2C$8.3E14.2BC$8.E.E12.A.2BC$8.3E12.A$24.2A5$15.2A13.2A$16.A
13.A$16.A.A9.A.A$8.3E6.2A9.2A$8.E.E12.A$8.3E11.3F$10.E12.A$8.3E6.2A9.
2A$16.A.A9.A.A$16.A13.A$15.2A13.2A3$37.A$6.E.3E10.3E12.A.A$6.E.E.E10.
AFA10.A2.B.A$6.E.E.E11.F10.A$6.E.E.E9.A.F.A$6.E.3E9.A3.A13.A$20.2A.2A
7.A.B2.A$33.A.A$22.C11.A8$6.E.3E14.2C$6.E3.E14.2BC$6.E.3E14.2BC$6.E.E
13.A$6.E.3E12.A$24.A7$6.E.3E$6.E3.E$6.E.3E31.2A17.AFA$6.E3.E12.3A15.A
2.A15.A.F.A$6.E.3E12.EBA15.3F17.AFA$23.2EA15.A2.A$42.2A17.AFA$60.A.F.
A$61.AFA8$6.E.E.E$6.E.E.E6.A.2A.A$6.E.3E$6.E3.E6.B4.B15.AEA$6.E3.E27.
ABA$17.A.2A.A15.3A13$46.2F$46.2A$25.3A$24.A2.F$28.FA20.AF$6.E.3E12.A.
B3.A20.AF$6.E.E17.B2.A14.A$6.E.3E13.A3.A14.ABA$6.E.E.E15.A17.A$6.E.3E
26.FA$37.FA3$41.2A$41.2F17$6.E.3E$6.E.E.E12.2A2.A$6.E.3E11.A2.2F.A$6.
E.E.E12.2A2.A$6.E.3E$39.F$38.AFA$39.F5$39.F$38.AFA$39.F9$6.E.3E$6.E.E
.E$6.E.3E12.A3.A$6.E3.E12.5A$6.E.3E14.H$25.H$25.H$25.H$25.H$25.H$25.H
$25.H$25.H$25.H$23.5A$23.A3.A10$4.3E.3E$6.E3.E13.A$4.3E.3E12.A.A$4.E
3.E13.A.G.A$4.3E.3E10.C3.A$22.C.A$23.C9$4.3E.E.E$6.E.E.E$4.3E.3E11.A.
A$4.E5.E11.3F$4.3E3.E11.A.A18$4.3E.3E39.A2.A33.A$6.E.E40.A3FA32.A.A$
4.3E.3E10.C8EC17.A2.F$4.E3.E.E8.A.10B.A14.A.3F17.3A13.A3.A$4.3E.3E35.
AF.F17.E.F.F.E12.F.F$23.A4.A18.3F18.A.F.A12.A.F.A$25.2A20.F21.A.A$46.
2A22.A15.3A12$4.3E.3E$6.E3.E$4.3E3.E9.A$4.E5.E6.H5.H$4.3E3.E6.7H$18.A
3.A24$4.3E.3E9.H3.H$6.E.E.E10.3A$4.3E.E.E10.A.A$6.E.E.E10.F.F$4.3E.3E
10.E.E$22.F15$4.3E.3E$6.E3.E$4.3E.3E10.C8EC$6.E.E10.A.10B.A$4.3E.3E9.
A10.A42.E$20.A10.A18.4A6.4A10.AGA$22.A2.2A2.A21.AGA6.AGA9.EA.FA$22.A
6.A19.C.3A6.3A.C8.G2F$50.C2.A6.A2.C9.2A.A$51.C10.C2$25.2A$25.2A6$4.3E
.3E$6.E.E$4.3E.3E11.2A$6.E.E.E12.F.A$4.3E.3E11.2FG20.E$23.F.A19.A$22.
2A20.3A$45.FA$44.3A$45.A$45.E18$103.2A14.A$103.2A$117.A3.A$116.2A$
116.A3.B.A3.C$26.E89.2A$54.A62.A3.A$23.E$4.3E.3E12.F.3A24.A3.A62.A$6.
E3.E11.A3.2A28.2A$4.3E3.E10.EAF.A2.A8.E9.C3.A.B3.A$6.E3.E11.A3.2A28.
2A$4.3E3.E12.F.3A24.A3.A$23.E$54.A$26.E76.3A$102.2A.2A2$100.A7.A$104.
B$102.A3.A$104.A4$104.C13$35.3E$4.3E.3E6.H3.H$6.E.E.E7.3A12.EA3.AE$4.
3E.3E7.A.A12.E.3A.E$6.E3.E7.F.F12.E2.A2.E$4.3E.3E7.E.E$18.EFE12.E5.E$
33.E5.E$33.E5.E2$35.3E13$19.A$4.E.E.3E6.A3.A$4.E.E.E.E5.A5.A$4.3E.E.E
5.A.B.G$6.E.E.E5.A6.A$6.E.3E9.B$22.A$19.3A25$6.E.E.E$6.E.E.E$6.3E.E7.
F.8A.F$8.E.E6.AE2F6G2FEA$8.E.E7.F10EF32$25.A2.A2$4.E.E.3E16.B.A$4.E.E
3.E14.A2.A$4.3E.3E16.A$6.E3.E9.A$6.E.3E8.A2.A$18.A.B2$19.A2.A9$4.E.E.
3E$4.E.E.E.E$4.3E.3E12.E.E$6.E.E.E11.5A$6.E.3E11.A3.A$23.3F$24.A2$20.
H7.H29$50.A$25.EAE21.3A$25.AFA20.A3.A23.A$26.F20.A5.A21.A2.A$25.AFA
20.2A.2A21.A4.A$23.2A.F.2A47.G$6.3E.E11.A3.F3.A41.A7.A$6.E3.E11.A2.AF
A2.A19.A20.A7.A$6.3E.E11.2A5.2A18.3A18.A7.A$8.E.E12.2A3.2A43.G$6.3E.E
60.A4.A$50.F21.A2.A$74.A3$50.C26$4.3E.E.E$4.E3.E.E$4.3E.3E17.A$6.E3.E
17.2AE$4.3E3.E16.AGAF$28.2AE$28.A12$20.3E$4.3E.3E$4.E3.E9.E5.E$4.3E.
3E7.E5.E$6.E.E.E7.E5.E$4.3E.3E7.E5.E2$18.E.3A.E$21.A15$4.3E.3E$4.E3.E
.E9.A5.A$4.3E.3E9.A5.A$6.E.E.E8.A.5G.A$4.3E.3E9.A5.A$20.A5.A11$4.3E.
3E$4.E5.E10.A$4.3E.3E10.AFH$4.E.E3.E9.FE.H$4.3E.3E10.AFH$21.A12$4.3E.
E.E$4.E3.E.E$4.3E.3E$4.E.E3.E8.A.D.B$4.3E3.E13$25.E3$25.A$24.A.A$25.B
.A3.E$2.3E.3E14.A$2.E3.E10.2A4.A$2.3E.3E10.A4.2A$2.E.E.E.E10.A$2.3E.
3E2.E3.A.B$16.A.A$17.A3$17.E8$36.A$2.3E.3E$2.E.E.E25.3A6.A$2.3E.3E23.
AB2A.2B2.A$2.E.E.E.E23.3A6.A$2.3E.3E$36.A8$2.3E.3E$2.E.E.E.E6.A$2.3E.
E.E7.A$4.E.E.E4.AHG.A$2.3E.3E7.A$15.A49$4.3E.3E35.2A$4.E.E.E.E35.A2.A
$4.3E.3E4.EF.8A.FE19.B$6.E.E.E5.E2F6G2FE19.A2.A$4.3E.3E5.F10EF21.2A$
51.C16$6.E.E.E$6.E.E.E$6.E.E.E6.3A$6.E.E.E7.F.A$6.E.E.E7.2FA$20.A33$
25.2A10.2A$24.A.A10.A.A$24.A14.A$22.3A14.3A$21.A20.A$21.2A3.3A.4A.3A
3.2A$2.E.3E.3E15.AGA.A2.A.AGA$2.E.E3.E.E15.3A.A2.A.3A$2.E.3E.E.E$2.E.
E.E.E.E15.3A6.3A$2.E.3E.3E15.A10.A$26.A10.A$26.3A6.3A2$26.3A.A2.A.3A$
26.AGA.A2.A.AGA$21.2A3.3A.4A.3A3.2A$21.A20.A$22.3A14.3A$24.A14.A$24.A
.A10.A.A$25.2A10.2A16$20.E$28.A$2.E.3E.3E9.E6.A.A.2A$2.E.E5.E15.A3.A.
A$2.E.3E3.E18.G$2.E.E.E3.E20.A$2.E.3E3.E14.A$27.G$24.A.A3.A$24.2A.A.A
6.E$28.A$36.E20$.3E2.E.3E$3.E2.E3.E$.3E2.E3.E$.E4.E3.E$.3E2.E3.E$31.A
$30.3A$24.C4.2AG2A$30.3A$31.A5$31.C16$17.F10EF$17.E2F6G2FE$16.EF.8A.F
E3$3E.3E.E.E$2.E3.E.E.E$3E3.E.3E$E5.E3.E$3E3.E3.E8$16.EF.8A.FE$17.E2F
6G2FE$17.F10EF35$29.A29.A$28.A.A10.2A3.2A10.A.A$28.A.F10EF5.F10EF.A$
29.AE2F6G2FEA3.AE2F6G2FEA$29.EF.3A2.2A2.FE3.EF2.2A2.3A.FE$3E.3E.3E20.
2A4.3A9.3A4.2A$2.E.E3.E.E21.A23.A$3E.3E.3E$2.E.E.E.E.E$3E.3E.3E8$32.A
23.A$31.2A4.3A9.3A4.2A$29.EF.3A2.2A2.FE3.EF2.2A2.3A.FE$29.AE2F6G2FEA
3.AE2F6G2FEA$28.A.F10EF5.F10EF.A$28.A.A10.2A3.2A10.A.A$29.A29.A!


Has periods 6-10, 12-14, 16, 18-19, 22, 24, 26-27, 30, 32, 36-37 (for 37 there is a honeyfarm sparker thing. can someone make a gun based on it?), 39-41, 43, 48, 51, 54, 56, 58, 63-64, 66, 86, 90, 98, 111, 160, 167, 217, 274, and 368.
works using the "extended" extendedlife: (PHPBB12345 posted it once, thanks!)
@RULE extendedlife

Copied from a phpBB12345 post. Thank you!

@TABLE

n_states:9
neighborhood:Moore
symmetries:permute

# 0 is empty
# 1 is on
# 2 is birthforcer (on)
# 3 is deathforcer (off)
# 4 is birthforcer + deathforcer
# 5 is blocker
# 6 is reactor
# 7 is birthforcer (off)
# 8 is deathforcer (on)

# a - any

var aa={0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8}
var ab={aa}
var ac={aa}
var ad={aa}
var ae={aa}
var af={aa}
var ag={aa}
var ah={aa}

# u - on

var ua={1,2,6,8}
var ub={ua}
var uc={ua}
var ud={ua}
var ue={ua}
var uf={ua}
var ug={ua}
var uh={ua}

# n - off

var na={0,3,5,7}
var nb={na}
var nc={na}
var nd={na}
var ne={na}
var nf={na}
var ng={na}
var nh={na}

# b & d

var b = {2,4,7}
var d = {3,4,8}

0, b,ab,ac,ad,ae,af,ag,ah,1  # 0 from birth to 1
0,ua,ub,uc,nd,ne,nf,ng,nh,1  # 0 from 3 to 1
1, d,ab,ac,ad,ae,af,ag,ah,0  # 1 from death to 0
1,aa,nb,nc,nd,ne,nf,ng,nh,0  # 1 from 0 ... 1 to 0
1,ua,ub,uc,ud,ae,af,ag,ah,0  # 1 from 4 ... 8 to 0


@COLORS
0   0   0   0
1 255 255 255
2  85 255  85
3 170   0   0
4   0   0 255
5  85  85  85
6 170 170 170
7   0 170   0
8 255  85  85


also, a herschel flipper:
x = 12, y = 4, rule = extendedlife
2E$EFA6.3A$EBA7.A$3E5.3A!


and an H eater (edgy):
x = 9, y = 4, rule = extendedlife
6.3A$7.A$EF3.3A$.E!


EDIT:
a 2-cell 20908M(!)
x = 40, y = 2, rule = extendedlife
39.G$B!


a 20-by-20 methuselah with a lifespan of about 140 thousand generations:
x = 20, y = 20, rule = extendedlife
GBFEG2.G.F.A.A4.A$3DFAE2.2F2.C4.AHD$2.2E.AG.B10.F$.CAB2.HFG.C2DG4.BH$
G2.D2.H.A3.D2.BC2.B$.E3.E.HE3.ABA$2.CGF.2AFB.H.B.2EDFC$HAG2H.D2.H2E2.
2E$4.A4.D3.HF2.B.D$4.CD.C.F.G2.B.B$E3.H.B2.DFGFG.F.E.F$.D.E.H.HEA3.F.
H2D$GH2.G.G5.D.GBD.E$.C2A.G.G4.BEHAG.AH$3.AH6.H3.F.AGE$2.A3.E.2G3.F3.
CDA$CB.H.AHAB.DH.D.GH$B2.EB.DF2CB7.B$D.H3.AG.FC4.DF.B$.E.G2.A4.G3.F.H
.A!


which ends up with this unusual oscillator:
x = 25, y = 25, rule = extendedlife
.3A.2A2.A$.A.3A6.A$A.GBFEG2.G.F6.A.A$A.3DFAE2.2F2.C.A3.HD$A3.2E.AG.B
5.A4.F2.A$A2.CAB2.HFG.C2DG4.BH2.A$A.G2.D2.H.A3.D2.BC2.B$.A.E3.E.HE3.A
B$.A2.CGF.2AFB.H.B.2EDFC$2.HAG2H.D2.H2E2.2E$6.A4.D3.HF2.B.D.A$6.CD.C.
F.G2.B.B$2.E3.H.B2.DFGFG.F.E.F$.A.D.E.H.HEA3.F.H2D2.A$2.GH2.G.G2.A2.D
.GBD.E.A$2A.C2A.G.G4.BEHAG.AH$.A.A.AH6.H3.F.AGE$4.A3.E.2G3.F3.CDA$2.C
B.H.AHAB.DH.D.GH$A.B2.EB.DF2CB7.B$A.D.H3.AG.FC4.DF.B.A$3.E.G2.3A2.G3.
F.H2.A$6.A2.A2.A6.2A$3.A9.A2.2A$4.2A!


unimpressive 2-cell 11034M
x = 21, y = 3, rule = extendedlife
20.F2$B!


4-cell 71937M, MCPS=5. L/MCPS = 14387.4(!)
x = 3, y = 4, rule = extendedlife
2.F$F$2.F$.F!

Re: Extended Life

PostPosted: February 25th, 2019, 6:33 pm
by Moosey
A bit (as in information):
x = 58, y = 113, rule = extendedlife
52.A$51.A$51.3A5$.A$2.A$3A15$18.A$19.A$17.3A7$20.2AE$19.E2FE$19.AFA$
19.A.E$21.H38$56.A$55.A$55.3A31$28.E$25.E2FE$25.AFA$25.A.E$27.H!