## Very nearly exploding rules

For discussion of other cellular automata.

### Re: Very nearly exploding rules

Day 3:
Almost 3*10^6 gens.
27 ships.
Population: ~2.3*10^6
No sign of stability.
Kiran Linsuain

Kiran

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### Re: Very nearly exploding rules

You're up against a class 3 rule, Kiran, something like B2/S. It won't stop.
Princess of Science, Parcly Taxel

Freywa

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### Re: Very nearly exploding rules

Freywa wrote:You're up against a class 3 rule, Kiran, something like B2/S. It won't stop.

I don't see why you consider this rule to be class 3. By far the majority of random fill patterns at least up to a size of 50x50 stabilise within a reasonable amount of time, which would place this rule well within the definition of Class IV.
wildmyron

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Here's a p6
x = 11, y = 11, rule = 12478/378/35$8.2A$7.B.A$7.AB$7.A.B$8.2A! This is game of life, this is game of life! Loafin' ships eaten with a knife! towerator Posts: 328 Joined: September 2nd, 2013, 3:03 pm ### Re: Very nearly exploding rules In B37/S4567, no patterns explode as far as I know, but sometimes they get very large before stabilizing; for example, this one stabilizes around generation 60000, with about 137500 cells. Would this count as "nearly exploding"? Code: Select all #C [[ THEME 3 THUMBNAIL ZOOM 4 ]]x = 16, y = 16, rule = B37/S4567ob3o3bobob3o$3o2bo2b2obob3o$obob3o3bob2obo$b4o3b5ob2o$2bo2bo3b2o2bobo$b2o2b3obob5o$2o4bo2b3ob3o$4o2b5o3bo$2obobo5b4o$7obobo2bo$2ob2ob3obob2o$3o2bobo5bo$b2ob2obo2bo4bo$2ob2ob2o3bo2b2o$3o2bobo2bo4bo$2ob3o3bo2b3o!

gameoflifeboy

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### Re: Very nearly exploding rules

The rule B36/S0124567 also seems to qualify. Most patterns stabilize after a very long (>20000 generations) time into a large cluster and several wickstretchers, often called "shoots". A representative sample of the objects in the ash of a normal pattern (excluding shoots) is below.
x = 400, y = 384, rule = 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It also has a very spectacular "seed explosion", shown below. x = 3, y = 4, rule = B36/S01245672bo$bo$o$2bo!
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### Re: Very nearly exploding rules

A slight variation of the rule (B36/S24567) seems to comply with the requirements for a very nearly exploding rule, and has a much smaller and more useful spaceship, shown below.
x = 6, y = 5, rule = B36/S24567o$obo$b4o$2bob2o$4bo!

Although most of the collisions between two gliders make a gigantic mess, there are a few useful collisions, shown below.
x = 175, y = 17, rule = B36/S2456746bo40bo$o45bobo38bobo$obo44b4o37b4o37bo37bo$b4o43bob2o37bob2o36bobo35bobo$2bob2o44bo40bo38b4o34b4o$4bo126bob2o34bob2o$133bo37bo3$60b2o37bo$15b2o42bo37b2obo$14bo43b3o37bo41b2o31b2o$13b3o43bo36b3o40bo32bo$14bo42b3o36b2o40b3o30b3o$12b3o43bo37bobo40bo32bo$13bo123b3o30b3o$138bo32bo!

The glider also has an eater, shown below.
x = 27, y = 7, rule = B36/S2456725bo$23b2obo$bobo20bo$5o17b3o$bobo18b2o$5o17bobo$bobo!
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### Re: Very nearly exploding rules

b345/s is also interesting it expands quadrically but very slowly (1000th gen is about 35000 while 100000th gen is about 50000 in the soup i ran)
edit: it is accualy not explosive but it still could trick me
Last edited by Sarp on July 21st, 2016, 11:46 am, edited 1 time in total.
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### Re: Very nearly exploding rules

I nominate PuffLife:
@RULE PuffLife*** B34-i5-a6-a/S2-an34-akrw ***This is a two state, isotropic, non-totalistic rule on the Moore neighbourhood.The notation used to define the rule was originally proposed by Alan Hensel.See http://www.ibiblio.org/lifepatterns/neighbors2.html for details@TABLEn_states:2neighborhood:Mooresymmetries:rotate4reflectvar a={0,1}var b={0,1}var c={0,1}var d={0,1}var e={0,1}var f={0,1}var g={0,1}var h={0,1}# Birth0,1,1,1,0,0,0,0,0,10,1,1,0,1,0,0,0,0,10,1,1,0,0,1,0,0,0,10,1,1,0,0,0,1,0,0,10,1,1,0,0,0,0,1,0,10,1,1,0,0,0,0,0,1,10,1,0,1,0,1,0,0,0,10,1,0,1,0,0,1,0,0,10,1,0,0,1,0,1,0,0,10,0,1,0,1,0,1,0,0,10,1,1,1,1,0,0,0,0,10,1,1,1,0,1,0,0,0,10,1,1,1,0,0,1,0,0,10,1,1,0,1,0,1,0,0,10,1,1,0,1,0,0,1,0,10,1,1,0,1,0,0,0,1,10,1,1,0,0,1,1,0,0,10,1,1,0,0,1,0,1,0,10,1,1,0,0,1,0,0,1,10,1,1,0,0,0,1,1,0,10,1,0,1,0,1,0,1,0,10,0,1,0,1,0,1,0,1,10,1,1,1,1,1,0,0,0,10,1,1,1,1,0,1,0,0,10,1,1,1,1,0,0,1,0,10,1,1,1,0,1,1,0,0,10,1,1,1,0,1,0,1,0,10,1,1,0,1,1,1,0,0,10,1,1,0,1,1,0,1,0,10,1,1,0,1,0,1,1,0,10,1,1,0,1,0,1,0,1,10,1,1,1,1,1,0,1,0,10,1,1,1,1,0,1,1,0,10,1,1,1,1,0,1,0,1,10,1,1,1,0,1,1,1,0,10,1,1,0,1,1,1,0,1,1# Survival1,1,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,11,1,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,11,1,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,11,0,1,0,1,0,0,0,0,11,1,1,1,0,0,0,0,0,11,1,1,0,1,0,0,0,0,11,1,1,0,0,1,0,0,0,11,1,1,0,0,0,1,0,0,11,1,1,0,0,0,0,1,0,11,1,1,0,0,0,0,0,1,11,1,0,1,0,1,0,0,0,11,1,0,1,0,0,1,0,0,11,1,0,0,1,0,1,0,0,11,0,1,0,1,0,1,0,0,11,1,1,1,0,0,1,0,0,11,1,1,0,1,1,0,0,0,11,1,1,0,1,0,1,0,0,11,1,1,0,1,0,0,0,1,11,1,1,0,0,1,1,0,0,11,1,1,0,0,1,0,1,0,11,1,1,0,0,1,0,0,1,11,1,0,1,0,1,0,1,0,11,0,1,0,1,0,1,0,1,1# Death1,a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,0@COLORS@ICONScircles

Also B3/S12-ae34ceit:
x = 3, y = 3, rule = B3_S12-ae34ceitbo$3o$bo!

Both rules are hard to search
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I found this:

x = 16, y = 16, rule = PuffLife2o4bob2obob3o$b3obo2b5obo$b7o2b2o2bo$2b2ob3obo2bobo$3bob4ob3o$o2bo9b2o$b2ob2obob4obo$bo4bobobob4o$2o2b2o9bo$o2b2ob2obob2obo$6bo3bo2b2o$o2bo2b2o2b2obobo$4b3o4bobobo$obo3b8obo$2obo11bo$b2obobobobo! That probably makes the rule a lot harder to use apgsearch on. gameoflifeboy Posts: 474 Joined: January 15th, 2015, 2:08 am ### Re: Very nearly exploding rules WOAH! So that makes this a minimum qg predecessor: x = 8, y = 3, rule = B34-i5-a6-a_S2-an34-akrw8o2$7bo!
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### Re: Very nearly exploding rules

A puffer in B3_S12-ae34ceit (I had trouble separating the engine from its debris without getting an explosion in the back):

x = 1005, y = 133, rule = 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gameoflifeboy Posts: 474 Joined: January 15th, 2015, 2:08 am ### Re: Very nearly exploding rules Does this qualify? 237/34/3 has this 17832-gen methuselah. x = 6, y = 4, rule = 237/34/32A$2.A$3.2A$5.A!

Sadly, there are no spaceships, just one oscillator (the p9 star also found in similar rules (unless you count a pattern made up of two of those which interact)) and so far just five still lifes (block, beehive, boat, ship and long ship).

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### Re: Very nearly exploding rules

B2-a3-ik4-aki/S23.

Try apgsearching it and you will fail.

I've had soups that took over 80000 gens to stabilize.

Also interesting because it is the only rule in its neighborhood that is any stable. All others just explode, even rules like B2-a3-ik4-aki/S23-k or B2-a3-ik/S23, which have fewer "on" transitions.

EDIT: Tried searching it again. Golly crashed. I need a better computer, or someone with a better one than my laptop.
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That's funny. Normally, adding any S1 condition to a rule makes it more, not less, explosive. x₁=ηx V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη) K=(Λu²)/2 Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt) $$x_1=\eta x$$ $$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$ $$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$ $$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$ http://conwaylife.com/wiki/A_for_all Aidan F. Pierce A for awesome Posts: 1673 Joined: September 13th, 2014, 5:36 pm Location: 0x-1 ### Re: Very nearly exploding rules Another nearly exploding rule. 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Really want to apgsearch it.. That might be hard, as it's actually barely exploding. x = 16, y = 16, rule = B378/S1256o2bo3b5ob2o$2o4b5o4bo$2b5ob5o$2obo3bob3obo$3bo2b2o4bob2o$2b3o2b2o3b4o$o2b4obob2o2bo$o2b2obo2bo2b2obo$bo2bo2bob3o3bo$b5obo2b3ob2o$ob6obo3b3o$3o2bo3b2ob2obo$4obo2bo3bob2o$b3o2b2obo4b2o$bo4b4o5bo$2o2bob4ob5o!

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### Re: Very nearly exploding rules

Okay so the problem is it doesn't die..

But such behaviour is quite similar to the aforementioned rules in this post
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### Re: Very nearly exploding rules

Reviving this thread with this rule: B3/S236ei

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### Re: Very nearly exploding rules

ygh wrote:Reviving this thread with this rule: B3/S236ei

This rule might be explosive:
x = 19, y = 3, rule = B3/S236ei3o13b3o$obo13bobo$obo13bobo!
Lasts over 66000 gens.
Also 'Dustclouds03' (B2ce3-ai/S03, if I remember correctly,) appears to be explosive.
x = 11, y = 1, rule = B2ce3-ai/S03obo7bo!
seems like it explodes forever. Also, I nominate B3/S237e.Here is a puffer with a period of 400 and a tail that takes over 42000 generations to stabilize and produces about 40 distinct lines of gliders.
x = 23, y = 5, rule = B3/S237e3o17b3o$o2bo15bo2bo$o6b3o3b3o6bo$o5bo2bo3bo2bo5bo$bobo6bobo6bobo!
This might have something to do with the fact that pi-heptomino is a failed 2d replicator.
x = 3, y = 3, rule = B3/S237e3o$obo$obo!
(Un?)fortunately, the extra pi disrupts the replication. It might be a diagonal puffer engine in another rule, though.
x = 4, y = 2, rule = B3/S23ob2o$2obo! (Check Gen 2) toroidalet Posts: 881 Joined: August 7th, 2016, 1:48 pm Location: Somewhere on a planet called "Earth" ### Re: Very nearly exploding rules Do I have quite the candidate for you today. Love to see this get tallied: x = 3, y = 3, rule = B3-ckq4e/S02-c34inz2o$b2o$bo! Or this: x = 3, y = 4, rule = B3-ckq4e/S02-c34inzbo$b2o$2o$o!

Or this:
x = 2, y = 7, rule = B3-ckq4e/S02-c34inz2o$bo$bo$bo$bo$bo$bo!

To be quite honest, I was almost ready to give up at this pattern:
x = 3, y = 7, rule = B3-ckq4e/S02-c34inzb2o$2bo$b2o2$b2o$2bo$3o! This post was brought to you by the letter D, for dishes that Andrew J. Wade won't do. (Also Daniel, which happens to be me.) Current rule interest: B2ce3-ir4a5y/S2-c3-y drc Posts: 1664 Joined: December 3rd, 2015, 4:11 pm Location: creating useless things in OCA ### Re: Very nearly exploding rules I can't say I've laughed quite as much at a cellular automata before. waiting for apgsearch to support one-dimensional rules muzik Posts: 2971 Joined: January 28th, 2016, 2:47 pm Location: Scotland ### Re: Very nearly exploding rules Currently apgsearching said rule and it's...well...let's just say I'm never doing this again cause I'm actually scared Edit: Gave up. Played around with B3/S12-ae34ceit and found this possible c/9o ship head: x = 3, y = 5, rule = B3/S12-ae34ceit3o3$bo$bo! Edit2:B3-kblah/Sblah has this weird almost replicator: x = 4, y = 4, rule = B3-k5c6n7c/S23-eky5kb3o$o2bo$o2bo$b2o!

Edit3:Nearly impossible to tame into a puffer due to its debris catching up with it. Here's the best I got:
x = 51, y = 6, rule = B3-k5c6n7c/S23-eky5kb2o$o2bo44b2o$o2bo42b2o2bo$b3o42bo3bo$46bo2bo$47b3o! Last edited by drc on November 15th, 2016, 7:27 pm, edited 3 times in total. This post was brought to you by the letter D, for dishes that Andrew J. Wade won't do. (Also Daniel, which happens to be me.) Current rule interest: B2ce3-ir4a5y/S2-c3-y drc Posts: 1664 Joined: December 3rd, 2015, 4:11 pm Location: creating useless things in OCA ### Re: Very nearly exploding rules Damn. How about B3-k5c6n7-e/S23-eky5k ? waiting for apgsearch to support one-dimensional rules muzik Posts: 2971 Joined: January 28th, 2016, 2:47 pm Location: Scotland ### Re: Very nearly exploding rules also B34e5y7e/S23 and B2i3-y6ci/S23-e A p174 gun in B2i3-y6ci/S23-e x = 7, y = 32, rule = B2i3-y6ci/S23-e3bobo$2bobobo$2bo3bo$3bobo$4bo23$2bo$bobo$o3bo$obobo$bobo!

A p20 rake in B34e5y7e/S23
x = 23, y = 5, rule = B34e5y7e/S233o17b3o$o2bo15bo2bo$o6b3o3b3o6bo$o5bo2bo3bo2bo5bo$bobo6bobo6bobo!

A 61k methuselah in B34e5y7e/S23
x = 14, y = 3, rule = B34e5y7e/S233o8b3o$o2bo6bo2bo$o12bo!

and some pattern that I think explodes in B2i3-y6ci/S23-e
x = 495, y = 481, rule = 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x = 4, y = 2, rule = B3/S23ob2o\$2obo!

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