## Help with names

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### Re: Help with names

Two questions:
1.Why are Catacryst and Metacatacryst are named so?Is it related to "catalyst" and "crystal"?
2.How many ways are there in which two 34P13s can share one or two common blocks if we consider different phases?And how to tell them apart besides apgcodes?What if there are more?
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### Re: Help with names

GUYTU6J wrote:Two questions:
1.Why are Catacryst and Metacatacryst are named so?Is it related to "catalyst" and "crystal"?
2.How many ways are there in which two 34P13s can share one or two common blocks if we consider different phases?And how to tell them apart besides apgcodes?What if there are more?

1. Most likely.
2. There are 3 ways two of these can share blocks: in a straight line, at right angles, or both simultaneously. Both oscillators can have one of 13 different phase separations between the (+0..+12), but since they are both the same, and all 3 kinds of interactions are symmetrical, symmetry reduces this to 7 distinct ones (+0..+6). The block cannot eat both oscillators simultaneously, so +0 is never viable. The other 6 (+1..+6) are viable when one block is shared, but +1 and +3 don't work when both blocks are shared, yielding 16 viable sharings:
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Both oscillators can have one of 13 different phase separations between the (+0..+12), but since they are both the same, and all 3 kinds of interactions are symmetrical, symmetry reduces this to 7 distinct ones (+0..+6). Thanks!Maybe we can name them like "cis/trans/double-block 34P13 on +n 34P13" where +n is the phase difference? For methuselahs' names:why are Iwona,Justyna,Lidka,Blom and Eve named so?Is the reason just like why Ed,Fred and Edna are named? And who named that pattern "Cambrian-Explosion" in Golly? EDIT:Why "any pattern covering the whole plane that is periodic in both space and time" is called agar?Isn't that a kind of substance?Previously I decided to call it "瓷砖(tile)". Welcome to share your ideas about etymology of names! GUYTU6J Posts: 403 Joined: August 5th, 2016, 10:27 am Location: outside Plain of Life ### Re: Help with names GUYTU6J wrote:Who named that pattern "Cambrian-Explosion" in Golly? Presumably, it's named Cambrian Explosion after the biological event, due to the myriad different species of Life specimens in the pattern. LifeWiki: Like Wikipedia but with more spaceships. [citation needed] BlinkerSpawn Posts: 1875 Joined: November 8th, 2014, 8:48 pm Location: Getting a snacker from R-Bee's ### Re: Help with names GUYTU6J wrote:Thanks!Maybe we can name them like "cis/trans/double-block 34P13 on +n 34P13" where +n is the phase difference? Or perhaps "cis/trans/double siamese bi-34P13" (siamese, since they share cells). Unfortunately, nomenclature gets less and less precise, the more complex the objects get. GUYTU6J wrote:For methuselahs' names:why are Iwona,Justyna,Lidka,Blom and Eve named so?Is the reason just like why Ed,Fred and Edna are named? Probably just random people's names given by the pattern discoverers. And who named that pattern "Cambrian-Explosion" in Golly? GUYTU6J wrote:Why "any pattern covering the whole plane that is periodic in both space and time" is called agar?Isn't that a kind of substance?Previously I decided to call it "瓷砖(tile)". In the early days of Life, there was a series of patterns found consisting of a very long snake-like pattern, with a stable cap, a long diagonal line, and an unstable end. This "burned" up the diagonal line, periodically leaving behind debris (or sometimes nothing). As this resembled a burning fuse, such patterns were called "fuses". This term became generalized to any pattern that had a periodic repeating body, with an unstable end that would eat through the body. From "fuse" came the term "wick" (which in real life is a fuse that has not yet been ignited) to describe the periodic part of the above-mentioned patterns - i.e. patterns that repeated infinitely in one dimension. These sometimes apply to still-lifes, but more commonly to oscillators - especially, oscillators that can stabilize copies of themselves (so they can exist in wick form) but for which finite stabilizations are not yet known, so they can only be studied in wick form. A name was later needed for patterns that repeated infinitely in two dimensions. Again, while this can apply to stable patterns, it is more frequently used to describe oscillators for which stable one-dimensional or finite forms are not yet known. The term "agar" in real life is a substance that is used in a laboratory to foster growth of bacteria that cannot grow in isolation, but flourish when grown in a nutrient medium. In Life, agars are similar - the universe may be thought of as consisting of repeating copies of a certain medium that can support certain behavior that cannot survive in isolation. Last edited by mniemiec on February 14th, 2017, 4:04 am, edited 1 time in total. mniemiec Posts: 1022 Joined: June 1st, 2013, 12:00 am ### Re: Help with names GUYTU6J wrote:why are Iwona,Justyna,Lidka,Blom and Eve named so? I know that Blom is B + LOM, but I don't know about the rest. x₁=ηx V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη) K=(Λu²)/2 Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt)$$x_1=\eta xV^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$\$

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Isn't blom bloom in Swedish, which is kind of what the mesuthelah does?
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### Re: Help with names

Bump
[quote=mniemiec]Probably just random people's names given by the pattern discoverers.[/quote]
This convention applies to Wilma, Homer, Sir Robin and minstrel, right?How about Bronco?
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GUYTU6J wrote:Bump
mniemiec wrote:Probably just random people's names given by the pattern discoverers.

This convention applies to Wilma, Homer, Sir Robin and minstrel, right?How about Bronco?

Wilma and Homer continue a specific just-for-funsies convention for new lifetime-record-breaking methuselahs: find a fictional character that shares the name of the previous record-holder, then name the new one after their spouse.

Sir Robin's naming was decided on in page 2 of the thread announcing its discover. In short, the character Sir Robin is a knight who "bravely ran away", the ship is a knightship running as fast as possible, and it sets a precedent for how to name future elementary knightships.

The reason for naming for the bronco is recounted here.
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