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Finding a job for the unemployed mango

Postby Rhombic » August 3rd, 2017, 10:30 am

Someone recently asked whether the mango, or a mango, depending on your desired level of courtesy (HRH the Duke of Mango), has been used in a conduit or "interesting reaction".
Apparently, nobody has really been able to use a mango appropriately in an interesting situation.

This thread is meant to find uses for a mango, if there are any. For the sake of simplicity, consider mango to refer to the 8-cell still life and not to the drupe or to ...oh my god!

Here goes a potential candidate.

Clean B-climbing reaction:
x = 45, y = 144, rule = B3/S23
11bo$10bobo$10bo2bo$11bobo$12bo7$3o21$18bo$17bobo$17bo2bo$18bobo$19bo
7$7b3o21$25bo$24bobo$24bo2bo$25bobo$26bo7$14b3o21$32bo$31bobo$31bo2bo$
32bobo$33bo7$21b3o21$39bo$38bobo$38bo2bo$39bobo$40bo7$28b3o2$43bo$42b
3o$41b2obo!
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Re: Finding a job for the unemployed mango

Postby dvgrn » August 4th, 2017, 7:47 am

I tried a search of ancient archives hoping that someone would have mentioned needing a slightly offset support structure in close quarters for ... something or other ... but no luck.

Found only a useless piece of trivia: you can hit a mango with a glider to produce a pentadecathlon. But it happens via a simple pi+block combination that can also happen in lots of other ways:

#C pentadecathlon from mango, and from 13.214 [Koenig numbering]
x = 166, y = 61, rule = LifeHistory
16.D$16.D$15.3D3$15.3D$16.D$16.D$16.D$16.D$15.3D3$15.3D$16.D$16.D35$
13.A138.A$12.A140.A$12.3A136.3A3$158.2A.2A$.A157.A.A$A.A156.A2.A$A2.A
154.2A3.A.A$.A.A160.2A$2.A!
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Re: Finding a job for the unemployed mango

Postby Rhombic » August 6th, 2017, 7:21 am

The reaction in the first post is so far the most usable, but I've found another orthogonal climber that is unusable but at least shows new potential reactions:
x = 30, y = 90, rule = B3/S23
18bo$17bobo$17bo2bo$18bobo$19bo2$27bo$26bobo$26bo2bo$27bobo$28bo9$11bo
$10bobo$9bo2bo$9bobo$10bo2$2bo$bobo$o2bo$obo$bo9$18bo$17bobo$17bo2bo$
18bobo$19bo2$27bo$26bobo$26bo2bo$27bobo$28bo9$11bo$10bobo$9bo2bo$9bobo
$10bo2$2bo$bobo$o2bo$obo$bo9$18bo$17bobo$17bo2bo$18bobo$19bo2$27bo$26b
obo$26bo2bo$27bobo$28bo$9bo$8b3o$7b2obo!
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Re: Finding a job for the unemployed mango

Postby Kazyan » August 8th, 2017, 12:32 pm

I've thrown a mango into a CatForce search, and no mango-specific reaction came out of it. Here was the input file:

max-gen 250
start-gen 3
last-gen 150
num-catalyst 2
stable-interval 20
search-area -10 -20 30 40
=search-area -20 -25 40 45
=combine-results yes 3 3 10 20
=fit-in-width-height 15 15

pat o$obo$3o$2bo! -10 0
output H-test13_2testspartan.rle

=Test=
cat bo$obo$o2bo$bobo$2bo! 100 -1 -2 x
=Block=
cat 2o$2o 100 0 0 .
=Mirrored Dock (Fishhook functionality is with Ship+Eater)=
cat 2o3b2o$obobobo$2bobo$2bobo$obobobo$2o3b2o 12 -3 -3 / forbidden 2o3b2o$obobobo$2bobo$2bobo4bo$obobobobobo$2o3b2ob2o! -3 -3 forbidden 2o3b2ob2o$obobobobobo$2bobo4bo$2bobo$obobobo$2o3b2o! -3 -3 forbidden b2ob2o3b2o$obobobobobo$bo4bobo$6bobo$4bobobobo$4b2o3b2o! -7 -3 forbidden 4b2o3b2o$4bobobobo$6bobo$bo4bobo$obobobobobo$b2ob2o3b2o! -7 -3 forbidden 2bo$obo$b2o$4b2o3b2o$4bobobobo$6bobo$6bobo$4bobobobo$4b2o3b2o! -7 -6 forbidden 8bo$8bobo$8b2o$2o3b2o$obobobo$2bobo$2bobo$obobobo$2o3b2o! -3 -6 forbidden 4b2o3b2o$4bobobobo$6bobo$6bobo$4bobobobo$4b2o3b2o$b2o$obo$2bo! -7 -3 forbidden 2o3b2o$obobobo$2bobo$2bobo$obobobo$2o3b2o$8b2o$8bobo$8bo! -3 -3
=Other Spartan=
cat bo$obo$obo$bo 100 -1 -2 /
cat b2o$o2bo$bobo$2bo 100 -2 -2 +
cat bo$obo$bo 100 -1 -1 .
cat 2o$obo$bo 100 -1 -1 +
cat 2o$obo$b2o 100 -1 -1 |


Another idea I had was to take two conduits that use a tub as a rock, and place them together in such a way that a mango would be needed to weld the tubs. However, I only found two conduits that use a tub as a rock, and neither of them could be placed so close together.
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Re: Finding a job for the unemployed mango

Postby dvgrn » August 18th, 2017, 1:26 pm

... Hey, look -- BlinkerSpawn has found a use for a mango (in the 14G recipe)! Two mangoes, actually.

Unfortunately I suspect that the mangoes could be replaced with some two-glider dying sparks, reducing the cost to 12 gliders and presumably putting the mangoes out on the street again. Maybe I just shouldn't mention that...!
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Re: Finding a job for the unemployed mango

Postby BlinkerSpawn » August 28th, 2017, 5:58 pm

dvgrn wrote:... Hey, look -- BlinkerSpawn has found a use for a mango (in the 14G recipe)! Two mangoes, actually.

Unfortunately I suspect that the mangoes could be replaced with some two-glider dying sparks, reducing the cost to 12 gliders and presumably putting the mangoes out on the street again. Maybe I just shouldn't mention that...!

I actually checked against a few of the standard sparks before trying the mango path and they didn't quite work. There might be some other, more obscure way to shave off a glider but I'm not certain that's possible.
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Re: Finding a job for the unemployed mango

Postby 83bismuth38 » September 8th, 2017, 4:52 pm

dvgrn wrote:I tried a search of ancient archives hoping that someone would have mentioned needing a slightly offset support structure in close quarters for ... something or other ... but no luck.

Found only a useless piece of trivia: you can hit a mango with a glider to produce a pentadecathlon. But it happens via a simple pi+block combination that can also happen in lots of other ways:

#C pentadecathlon from mango, and from 13.214 [Koenig numbering]
x = 166, y = 61, rule = LifeHistory
16.D$16.D$15.3D3$15.3D$16.D$16.D$16.D$16.D$15.3D3$15.3D$16.D$16.D35$
13.A138.A$12.A140.A$12.3A136.3A3$158.2A.2A$.A157.A.A$A.A156.A2.A$A2.A
154.2A3.A.A$.A.A160.2A$2.A!

it's a pretty small amount of cells though.
also, I think the mango is either insanely disproportionate or very gmo:
x = 11, y = 4, rule = B3/S23
8b2o$b2o4bo2bo$obo3bo2bo$2o5b2o!

also a key component in a still life:
x = 12, y = 14, rule = B3/S23
3bob2o2b2o$3b2obo2bo$7b2o2bo$3b4o2b3o$3bo3b2o$2obo2bo2bo$2obobo2bo$3bo
2b2o$3bo$4b6o$9bo$6bo$5bobo$6bo!
x = 8, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
3b2o$3b2o$2b3o$4bobo$2obobobo$3bo2bo$2bobo2bo$2bo4bo$2bo4bo$2bo!

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Re: Finding a job for the unemployed mango

Postby 83bismuth38 » September 8th, 2017, 6:06 pm

I decided to send the mango to WLS Elementary School. So far, it's just trying to think that it's something it's not:
x = 9, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
6b2o$5b3o$4bob2o$2obobo$ob2o2bo$4b2o$b2o3b3o$2bob2o2bo$bo2bo2bo$b2o2b
2o!
EDIT: Adding insult to injury:
x = 8, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
3b2o$2b3o$bob2o$obo$o2bo$b2o$5b2o$4bo2bo$3bo2bo$4b2o!
x = 8, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
3b2o$3b2o$2b3o$4bobo$2obobobo$3bo2bo$2bobo2bo$2bo4bo$2bo4bo$2bo!

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Re: Finding a job for the unemployed mango

Postby calcyman » September 23rd, 2018, 1:41 pm

The latest version of slmake uses a block-on-mango as an indication of the input glider stream:

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x = 14, y = 15, rule = LifeHistory
11.2C$11.2C2$11.2D$10.D2BD$9.D2BD$8.2B2D$7.4B$6.4B$5.4B$4.4B$3.3AB$2.
3BA$.3BA$4B!


It very snugly occupies the four diagonals of the input glider stream, and determines the orientation uniquely.
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Re: Finding a job for the unemployed mango

Postby dvgrn » September 24th, 2018, 9:43 am

calcyman wrote:The latest version of slmake uses a block-on-mango as an indication of the input glider stream...

... And in another recent instance of a mango making itself useful, it turns out to be an optimal way to keep certain groups of cells alive in Solitaire of Life. Thank you, mango!
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Re: Finding a job for the unemployed mango

Postby Redstoneboi » September 26th, 2018, 11:16 am

x = 15, y = 18, rule = B3/S23
10b2o$10b2o8$o2bo$4bo$o3bo$b4o2$11b2o$10bo2bo$11bo2bo$12b2o!

Mango can work for the navy.

Mango’s backstory:
#C[[ PAUSE 3 "Synthplace: Oak (formerly Acorn)" STEP 15 ZOOM 8
#CT 3700 ZOOM 4 X -40 Y -35 "Synthday: Genuary 9, 3900"
#CT 3800 PAUSE 1 "*Record scratch*"
#CT 3909 ZOOM 32 PAUSE 1 "*Freeze frame*"
#CT 4100 STEP 1 "Yep, that’s me."
#CT 4500 ZOOM 2 "You’re probably wondering how\nI got into this situation."
#CT 4750 "You know what?\nLife’s pretty boring."
#CT 5206 "I want a job."
#CT 5207 STEP 1 GPS 5 ]]
x = 7, y = 3, rule = B3/S23
bo$3bo$2o2b3o!
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Re: Finding a job for the unemployed mango

Postby 77topaz » September 29th, 2018, 12:38 am

The Life of Mango: coming soon to LifeViewers near you!
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Re: Finding a job for the unemployed mango

Postby danny » September 29th, 2018, 11:17 am

77topaz wrote:The Life of Mango: coming soon to LifeViewers near you!

Wait, does that make us... the LifeViewer Viewers?
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Re: Finding a job for the unemployed mango

Postby 77topaz » September 30th, 2018, 5:12 am

Sure. You can buy your tickets at "Show in viewer" buttons, available in most leading codeboxes across the world.
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Re: Finding a job for the unemployed mango

Postby Saka » September 30th, 2018, 5:32 am

When we play a pattern in B3/S23 on LifeViewer, do we not become the Life Viewer?
If you're the person that uploaded to Sakagolue illegally, please PM me.
x = 17, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
b2ob2obo5b2o$11b4obo$2bob3o2bo2b3o$bo3b2o4b2o$o2bo2bob2o3b4o$bob2obo5b
o2b2o$2b2o4bobo2b3o$bo3b5ob2obobo$2bo5bob2o$4bob2o2bobobo!

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Re: Finding a job for the unemployed mango

Postby Redstoneboi » October 12th, 2018, 9:59 pm

Sequel, Mango’s life, coming (not) soon
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Re: Finding a job for the unemployed mango

Postby 77topaz » October 13th, 2018, 1:06 am

The Life of Mango Pie, by Yann Mangotel.
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