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Re: Solitaire of Life

Postby Billabob » May 16th, 2018, 6:22 pm

BlinkerSpawn wrote:30:
x = 11, y = 9, rule = LifeHistory
7.C$.A4.C.A.C$A.C3.C2.CA$.C3.AC$4.C4.2A$4.C4.C$3.AC.AC.A$2.A2.C2.A$2.
CA2.AC!


I think that’s optimal, well done.
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Re: Solitaire of Life

Postby wwei23 » July 5th, 2018, 4:41 pm

Can I post a puzzle, since no one else seems to be posting one?
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Re: Solitaire of Life

Postby Macbi » July 5th, 2018, 4:47 pm

Please do.
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Re: Solitaire of Life

Postby wwei23 » July 5th, 2018, 4:56 pm

x = 5, y = 5, rule = LifeHistory
.2A$.A.2A$A3.A$2A.A$2.2A!

I myself will offer a 36-cell solution, the smallest I can get:
x = 11, y = 11, rule = LifeHistory
2.C$.C.C4.2C$.C.C3.C2.C$2.C.2A2.2C$4.A.2A$3.A3.A$3.2A.A$.2C2.2A.C$C2.
C3.C.C$.2C4.C.C$8.C!

After manually inspecting this one, I noticed that the red cells have to be dead.
x = 7, y = 7, rule = LifeHistory
2.3D$.D2A2D$2DAD2AD$DA3DAD$D2ADA2D$.2D2AD$2.3D!

As a result, to prevent birth on blue, four cells will always be on:
x = 7, y = 7, rule = LifeHistory
2.3DC$CD2ABD$DBAD2AD$DA3DAD$D2ADABD$.DB2ADC$.C3D!

All solutions must have at least 24 cells.
x = 7, y = 7, rule = LifeHistory
2B3DCB$CD2A2DB$2DAD2AD$DA3DAD$D2ADA2D$B2D2ADC$BC3D2B!

Four cells to prevent birth on blue:
x = 7, y = 7, rule = LifeHistory
2.3DC$CB2ADB$2DAD2AD$DA3DAD$D2ADA2D$.BD2ABC$.C3D!

Such cells will touch white, so four more cells are required to stabilize the white cells.
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Re: Solitaire of Life

Postby Macbi » July 6th, 2018, 4:12 pm

wwei23 wrote:I myself will offer a 36-cell solution, the smallest I can get:
x = 11, y = 11, rule = LifeHistory
2.C$.C.C4.2C$.C.C3.C2.C$2.C.2A2.2C$4.A.2A$3.A3.A$3.2A.A$.2C2.2A.C$C2.
C3.C.C$.2C4.C.C$8.C!
LLS verifies that this the unique optimal solution.
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Re: Solitaire of Life

Postby wwei23 » July 6th, 2018, 4:39 pm

Almost posted this as a puzzle, but then I was doing my preparative analysis, and then this happened:
x = 8, y = 8, rule = LifeHistory
3.3D$2.D2A2D$.2DAD2AD$D2A3DAD$DA2D2A2D$2DADA3D$.D2A2DED$2.5D!


What's the highest minimal stabilization to unstabilized ratio possible? I managed to get 3 in that last puzzle.
This will be the next puzzle with 14 cells, then...
x = 7, y = 7, rule = LifeHistory
3.3D$2.2D2AD$.D2ADAD$2DA3DA$DA2D2AD$D2ADA2D$.2DA2D!

I managed to find a 38 cell solution.
x = 11, y = 11, rule = LifeHistory
9.C$2.2C4.C.C$.C2.C3.C.C$.C.C2.2A.C$2.C.2A.A$4.A3.A$3.A2.2A.C$3.2A.A
2.C$.2C2.A2.C$C2.C2.2C$.2C!

I just try to make everything connected pre-blocks, because those tend to be excruciatingly hard.
Now for my analysis!

Every solution will have at least 24 cells.
Three are forced on. Three are needed to stabilize the two in the upper left, four to stabilize the one on the lower right:
x = 9, y = 9, rule = LifeHistory
2.3B$2.BC3D$3B2D2AD$BCD2ADAD$B2DA3DA$.DA2D2ADE$.D2ADA2DE$2.2DA2DC$5.
2E!
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Re: Solitaire of Life

Postby BlinkerSpawn » July 7th, 2018, 10:59 am

wwei23 wrote:Every solution will have at least 24 cells.
Three are forced on. Three are needed to stabilize the two in the upper left, four to stabilize the one on the lower right:
x = 9, y = 9, rule = LifeHistory
2.3B$2.BC3D$3B2D2AD$BCD2ADAD$B2DA3DA$.DA2D2ADE$.D2ADA2DE$2.2DA2DC$5.
2E!

This would be a lot more fun if you hadn't done half the solving already
x = 9, y = 9, rule = LifeHistory
.2C2B$C2.C3D$C.C2D2AD$BCD2ADAD$B2DA3DA$.DA2D2ADE$.D2ADA2DE$2.2DA2DC$
5.2E!
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Re: Solitaire of Life

Postby wwei23 » July 7th, 2018, 12:16 pm

That's not even a still life, what's going on here?
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Re: Solitaire of Life

Postby Majestas32 » July 9th, 2018, 1:06 am

BlinkerSpawn wrote:
wwei23 wrote:Every solution will have at least 24 cells.
Three are forced on. Three are needed to stabilize the two in the upper left, four to stabilize the one on the lower right:
x = 9, y = 9, rule = LifeHistory
2.3B$2.BC3D$3B2D2AD$BCD2ADAD$B2DA3DA$.DA2D2ADE$.D2ADA2DE$2.2DA2DC$5.
2E!

This would be a lot more fun if you hadn't done half the solving already
x = 9, y = 9, rule = LifeHistory
.2C2B$C2.C3D$C.C2D2AD$BCD2ADAD$B2DA3DA$.DA2D2ADE$.D2ADA2DE$2.2DA2DC$
5.2E!


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Please, stop spam searching Snowflakes.
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Re: Solitaire of Life

Postby gmc_nxtman » July 9th, 2018, 2:50 am

New puzzle:

x = 10, y = 10, rule = LifeHistory
5.C2.C$8.C$3.C2.C$.C2.C$.C2.C$4.2C2.C$8.C$C$3.C5.C$4.2C!
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Re: Solitaire of Life

Postby Goldtiger997 » July 9th, 2018, 6:29 am

gmc_nxtman wrote:New puzzle:

x = 10, y = 10, rule = LifeHistory
5.C2.C$8.C$3.C2.C$.C2.C$.C2.C$4.2C2.C$8.C$C$3.C5.C$4.2C!


42:
x = 15, y = 11, rule = LifeHistory
12.2A$8.AC2.C$7.A2.A.C$7.C.AC.2A$A.2A.CA.C$2A.A.C2.C$5.A2.2C2.CA$4.A
7.C$4.CA2.2A4.A$7.C2.A2.CA$8.2C!
Things to work on:
  • Work on the snowflakes orthogonoid
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Re: Solitaire of Life

Postby Macbi » July 9th, 2018, 1:35 pm

42 isn't optimal.
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Re: Solitaire of Life

Postby wwei23 » July 9th, 2018, 5:44 pm

38 and 38:
x = 33, y = 11, rule = LifeHistory
9.2A17.2A$8.C2.C15.C2.C$8.A2.C15.A2.C$6.CA.CA14.CA.CA$4.C2.C15.C2.C$
4.CA.C15.CA.C$5.A.2C2.CA6.2A3.A.2C2.CA$2A.A.A5.C7.A2.A.A5.C$A.AC.A.2A
4.A7.AC.A.2A4.A$6.C2.A2.CA11.C2.A2.CA$7.2C17.2C!

And 38 and 38 and 38:
x = 49, y = 12, rule = LifeHistory
7.2A15.2A18.2A$6.C2.C13.C2.C16.C2.C$6.A2.C13.A2.C16.A2.C$4.CA.CA12.CA
.CA15.CA.CA$2.C2.C13.C2.C16.C2.C$2.CA.C13.CA.C16.CA.C$3.A.2C2.CA9.A.
2C2.CA12.A.2C2.CA$3.A5.C10.A5.C13.A5.C$.CA.3A4.A6.CA.3A4.A7.A.CA.3A4.
A$2.A.C2.A2.CA4.A2.A.C2.A2.CA7.2A.A.C2.A2.CA$A4.2C9.2A4.2C18.2C$2A!

35:
x = 11, y = 11, rule = LifeHistory
6.2A$5.C2.C$5.A2.C$3.CA.CA$.C2.C$.CA.C$4.2C2.CA$.3A4.C$C3.2A4.A$2A.C
2.A2.CA$4.2C!

34:
x = 11, y = 11, rule = LifeHistory
6.2A$5.C2.C$5.A2.C$3.CA.CA$.C2.C$.CA.C$4.2C2.CA$A.2A4.C$CA2.2A4.A$3.C
2.A2.CA$4.2C!
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Re: Solitaire of Life

Postby Macbi » July 9th, 2018, 6:16 pm

Yep, 34 wins.
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Re: Solitaire of Life

Postby AforAmpere » July 9th, 2018, 6:42 pm

Here's a new one:
x = 11, y = 10, rule = LifeHistory
7.2C2$4.C4.2C$C8.C$C5.C$.2C3.C$3.C2$6.C$6.C!
Things to work on:
- Find a (7,1)c/8 ship in a Non-totalistic rule (someone please search the rules)
- Find a C/10 in JustFriends
- Find a C/10 in Day and Night
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Re: Solitaire of Life

Postby Macbi » July 9th, 2018, 7:09 pm

AforAmpere wrote:Here's a new one:
x = 11, y = 10, rule = LifeHistory
7.2C2$4.C4.2C$C8.C$C5.C$.2C3.C$3.C2$6.C$6.C!
33
x = 11, y = 11, rule = LifeHistory
3.2A2.A2.A$3.A3.2C2A$4.A$3.AC4.2C$CA7.C$C5.CA.A$.2CA2.CA.2A$3.C2$6.CA
$6.CA!
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Re: Solitaire of Life

Postby Saka » July 9th, 2018, 7:09 pm

AforAmpere wrote:Here's a new one:
x = 11, y = 10, rule = LifeHistory
7.2C2$4.C4.2C$C8.C$C5.C$.2C3.C$3.C2$6.C$6.C!

34:
x = 13, y = 11, rule = LifeHistory
9.A$3.2A2.2C3A$3.A2.A5.A$4.C2A2.2C.A$CA7.C.A$C5.C2A$.2CA2.C$3.C2$6.CA
$6.CA!

EDIT: Aw really? Darn it!
Proud owner and founder of Sakagolue
x = 17, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
b2ob2obo5b2o$11b4obo$2bob3o2bo2b3o$bo3b2o4b2o$o2bo2bob2o3b4o$bob2obo5b
o2b2o$2b2o4bobo2b3o$bo3b5ob2obobo$2bo5bob2o$4bob2o2bobobo!

(Check gen 2)
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Re: Solitaire of Life

Postby BlinkerSpawn » July 9th, 2018, 10:08 pm

29 looks better:
x = 11, y = 11, rule = LifeHistory
7.A$7.2CA$2.2A6.A$.A2.C4.2C$C.2A5.C$C5.CA.A$.2CA2.C.A$3.C2$6.CA$6.CA!
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Re: Solitaire of Life

Postby Hdjensofjfnen » July 16th, 2018, 8:40 pm

31. It doesn't improve the previous one, but is still worth noting, if only for the 16-bitter:
x = 12, y = 11, rule = LifeHistory
7.A$7.2CA$10.A$.2A.CA3.2C$C.A.A.A2.C$C5.C4.A$.2CA2.CA2.2A$3.C2$6.CA$
6.CA!
Life is hard. Deal with it.
This is my new favorite spaceship:
x = 8, y = 4, rule = B3-ek/S023
bobo$2obo3bo$bobo$3bo!
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Re: Solitaire of Life

Postby Saka » August 6th, 2018, 7:22 am

I like this game so here's a puzzle:
x = 12, y = 12, rule = LifeHistory
3.C2$10.C$C5.C$6.C.C$.2C2.C$8.C2.C$.C4.2C2.C$.C$7.C$.C4.C$9.C!
Proud owner and founder of Sakagolue
x = 17, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
b2ob2obo5b2o$11b4obo$2bob3o2bo2b3o$bo3b2o4b2o$o2bo2bob2o3b4o$bob2obo5b
o2b2o$2b2o4bobo2b3o$bo3b5ob2obobo$2bo5bob2o$4bob2o2bobobo!

(Check gen 2)
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Re: Solitaire of Life

Postby PHPBB12345 » August 6th, 2018, 9:24 am

Saka wrote:I like this game so here's a puzzle:
x = 12, y = 12, rule = LifeHistory
3.C2$10.C$C5.C$6.C.C$.2C2.C$8.C2.C$.C4.2C2.C$.C$7.C$.C4.C$9.C!


75, isn't optimal.
x = 15, y = 16, rule = LifeHistory
4.AC$4.2A3.A$8.A.A.CA$.AC5.C.A.2A$.A2.A.A.C.C$3.2C.AC2.A$10.C.AC$3.C
4A2CA.CA$3.C3.A$A4.A3.C4A$3AC4ACA4.A$11.C2A$2.4A2.4A$2.A2.A2.A$9.A$8.
2A!


61:
x = 15, y = 13, rule = LifeHistory
4.AC$4.2A3.A$8.A.A.CA$.AC5.C.A.2A$.A2.A.A.C.C$3.2C.AC2.A$10.C.AC$3.C
4A2CA.CA$3.C$2A.A.2A.AC4A$A.AC.2A.C5.A$11.C2A$11.A!
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Re: Solitaire of Life

Postby danny » August 6th, 2018, 1:57 pm

Here's a 57, definitely suboptimal (although I haven't checked):
x = 15, y = 13, rule = LifeHistory
4.AC$4.A.A5.2A$6.A5.CA$.AC3.A.CA$.A2.A.A.C.C$3.2C.AC2.A$10.C.AC$3.C4A
2C2.C$3.C8.A.A$2A.A.2A.AC3.2A$A.AC.2A.C$9.2AC$11.A!
I prefer Dani now, but Danny is fine seeing as it's my username and I've already made 4 too many accounts.
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Re: Solitaire of Life

Postby AforAmpere » August 6th, 2018, 6:21 pm

Here's 50:
x = 14, y = 13, rule = LifeHistory
4.AC$4.2A$11.AC$.AC4.AC.A.A$.A2.A.A.C.C$3.2C.AC2.A$10.C.AC$3.CA.2A2C
2.C$3.C.2A5.A$2A.A5.C2A$A.AC4.C$9.2AC$11.A!



And a different 50:
x = 14, y = 14, rule = LifeHistory
5.2A$5.CA2$11.AC$2.CA3.AC.A.A$2.A.A.A.C.C$3.2C.AC2.A$10.C.AC$3.CA.2A
2C2.C$3.C.2A5.A$2A.A5.C2A$A.AC4.C$9.2AC$11.A!


And another:
x = 14, y = 14, rule = LifeHistory
4.2A$4.AC2$11.AC$2.CA3.AC.A.A$2.A2.A2.C.C$3.2C2AC2.A$10.C.AC$3.CA.2A
2C2.C$3.C.2A5.A$2A.A5.C2A$A.AC4.C$9.2AC$11.A!
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- Find a (7,1)c/8 ship in a Non-totalistic rule (someone please search the rules)
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Re: Solitaire of Life

Postby gmc_nxtman » August 6th, 2018, 11:46 pm

44:

x = 14, y = 13, rule = LifeHistory
2.2A$2.AC2$9.AC$CA3.AC.A.A$A.A3.C.CA$.2C2.C$5.A.AC2AC$.CA3.2C2.C2.A$.
C10.2A$2.A3.AC$.CA3.C2.A$8.AC!
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Re: Solitaire of Life

Postby wwei23 » August 7th, 2018, 10:43 am

Here's another 44:
x = 12, y = 13, rule = LifeHistory
2.2A$2.AC2$5.2A2.AC$CA4.C3.A$A.A3.C.C$.2C2.CA.2A$5.A2.C2.C$.CA3.2C2.C
A$.C$2.A3.AC2.2A$.CA3.C.A2.A$9.CA!

Edit:
41:
x = 12, y = 13, rule = LifeHistory
2.2A$2.AC2$5.2A2.AC$CA4.C3.A$A.A3.C.C$.2C2.CA.2A$5.A2.C2.C$.CA3.2C2.C
A$.C$2.A3.AC$.CA3.C2.A$8.AC!
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