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### Re: Only one object [GAME]

Posted: February 5th, 2019, 3:23 pm
Βεν Γ. Κυθισ wrote:What?

In the original rule:
`x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2e4q6n/S1c2a3nb2o\$obo\$2o!`

### Re: Only one object [GAME]

Posted: February 5th, 2019, 3:43 pm
Okay, but I found a real counterexample for PkmnQ's submission:
`x = 5, y = 4, rule = B2e4q6n/S1c2a3n2bobo\$2b2o\$o\$bo!`

I fixed it here:
`x = 5, y = 4, rule = B2e3k4q6n/S1c2a3n2bobo\$2b2o\$o\$bo!`

### Re: Only one object [GAME]

Posted: February 5th, 2019, 3:56 pm
Βεν Γ. Κυθισ wrote:Okay, but I found a real counterexample for PkmnQ's submission:
`x = 5, y = 4, rule = B2e4q6n/S1c2a3n2bobo\$2b2o\$o\$bo!`

I fixed it here:
`x = 5, y = 4, rule = B2e3k4q6n/S1c2a3n2bobo\$2b2o\$o\$bo!`

`x = 8, y = 6, rule = B2e3k4q6n/S1c2a3n5bobo\$6b2o\$3b2o\$4bo\$b2o\$obo!`

Found in a couple seconds.

### Re: Only one object [GAME]

Posted: February 5th, 2019, 4:00 pm
Removed it:
`x = 8, y = 6, rule = B2e3kq4q6n/S1c2a3n5bobo\$6b2o\$3b2o\$4bo\$b2o\$obo!`

### Re: Only one object [GAME]

Posted: February 5th, 2019, 5:12 pm
Βεν Γ. Κυθισ wrote:Removed it:
`x = 8, y = 6, rule = B2e3kq4q6n/S1c2a3n5bobo\$6b2o\$3b2o\$4bo\$b2o\$obo!`

This rule still doesn't quite have one object, as the oscillators can be nontrivially combined together: http://catagolue.appspot.com/census/b2e ... a3n/C1/xp2

### Re: Only one object [GAME]

Posted: February 5th, 2019, 5:53 pm
I found three more counterexamples other than the catagoule ones and fixed them as well as the catagoule ones:
`x = 39, y = 31, rule = B2e3q4qz6n/S1c2a3n15bobo\$15b2o7bo\$14bo3bo4b2o\$16b2o7bo\$4b2o9bobo\$obobo\$b2o2bo30bobo\$3bo11bobo18b2o\$16b2o6bobo\$13b2o9b2o\$4bobo7bo7bo\$5b2o4b2o9b2o9bobo\$3bo6bobo21b2o\$b2o33b2o\$2bo26bobo4bo\$bo28b2o5bo\$10bo10bobo8b2o\$11bo9b2o9bobo\$obo7b2o8bo\$b2o9bo9b2o\$3bo6bo10bobo\$5b2o4bo\$4bobo3b2o4\$12b2o\$12bo6bo\$14bo3bo\$13b2o5bo\$19b2o!`

### Re: Only one object [GAME]

Posted: February 5th, 2019, 7:25 pm
Still not quite a one-object rule: http://catagolue.appspot.com/census/b2e ... s1c2a3n/C1

Aside from the p2s, there's even a p3 now:
`x = 5, y = 5, rule = B2e3q4qz6n/S1c2a3nbobo\$o2b2o\$2bo\$4bo\$3b2o!`

### Re: Only one object [GAME]

Posted: February 5th, 2019, 7:52 pm
`x = 21, y = 19, rule = B2e3jq4qwz6n/S1c2a3kn5b2o5bo\$5bo6b2o3bobo\$6bo4bo4bo2b2o\$18bo\$20bo\$9bobo7b2o\$10b2o\$12b2o\$2bobo7bo\$3b2o8bo\$5b2o\$5bobo3\$bo8bo\$o2bo5bo2bo\$2b2o7b2obo\$4bo8b2o\$3b2o!`

### Re: Only one object [GAME]

Posted: February 5th, 2019, 7:54 pm
Βεν Γ. Κυθισ wrote:
`x = 21, y = 19, rule = B2e3jq4qwz6n/S1c2a3kn5b2o5bo\$5bo6b2o3bobo\$6bo4bo4bo2b2o\$18bo\$20bo\$9bobo7b2o\$10b2o\$12b2o\$2bobo7bo\$3b2o8bo\$5b2o\$5bobo3\$bo8bo\$o2bo5bo2bo\$2b2o7b2obo\$4bo8b2o\$3b2o!`

*APGsearch time!!!*
We’re gonna find a p7 oscillator or something at this rate.

### Re: Only one object [GAME]

Posted: February 6th, 2019, 12:43 am
Βεν Γ. Κυθισ wrote:
PkmnQ wrote::roll:
`x = 3, y = 2, rule = B2e4q6n/S1c2a3nobo\$2o!`

I removed some terms that didn't appear to have a purpose in this submission and I found a p2 ship that you need to remove:
`x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2e/S1c2a3nb2o\$obo\$2o!`

THAT'S WHY THE 6N IS THERE
`x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2e6n/S1c2a3nb2o\$obo\$2o!`

Oh, and the 4q is because of an aircraft carrier.
`x = 4, y = 3, rule = B2e6n/S1c2a3n2b2o\$o2bo\$2o!`

`x = 4, y = 3, rule = B2e4q6n/S1c2a3n2b2o\$o2bo\$2o!`

### Re: Only one object [GAME]

Posted: February 6th, 2019, 1:26 am
Moosey wrote:
Βεν Γ. Κυθισ wrote:
`x = 21, y = 19, rule = B2e3jq4qwz6n/S1c2a3kn5b2o5bo\$5bo6b2o3bobo\$6bo4bo4bo2b2o\$18bo\$20bo\$9bobo7b2o\$10b2o\$12b2o\$2bobo7bo\$3b2o8bo\$5b2o\$5bobo3\$bo8bo\$o2bo5bo2bo\$2b2o7b2obo\$4bo8b2o\$3b2o!`

*APGsearch time!!!*
We’re gonna find a p7 oscillator or something at this rate.

It appears this rule may actually be a one-object rule - apgsearch has found more than a million of the object but not yet anything else.

### Re: Only one object [GAME]

Posted: February 6th, 2019, 1:28 am
Ya really searched it?!

REMOVED FAILED RULE. I made a mess.

### Re: Only one object [GAME]

Posted: February 6th, 2019, 1:32 am
Hunting wrote:EDIT: Oops.
- Rules with B2e without at least one of S1c or B1e

Failed

That was specifically for the endemic object challenge, not the one object challenge in general. Though this rule does not satisfy the latter, either:
`x = 2, y = 2, rule = B2e3ei/S2acbo\$o!`

### Re: Only one object [GAME]

Posted: February 6th, 2019, 1:33 am
I was just about to say that thing too!
`x = 53, y = 45, rule = B2e3ei/S2ac42bobobobobobo2\$42bobo4bo2bo\$45bo4bo\$42bo6bo2bo2\$42bo9bo2\$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo2\$o43bo\$4bobobo2bo3bobo3b3ob2ob2obobo2bo\$o10b2obo2bobo2b5o2b3ob2o4bo4bo\$6b4obob5obob4ob2o2bobo2b2o2bo\$o6b3o2bo3b3obo2b3o2bob4ob2o3bo3bo\$5b5obobob2ob2o2bobo2bo2bo2b6obo\$o3b2ob7ob2o4b2ob2o2b2obobo2bo2b2o3bo\$5bo2bob7ob7ob7o4b2o\$o4bo2b5obobo2bo4bob2obob5o4bo3bo\$5b3obob2obo2b8o2bo2b2o4bob2o\$o3bob2o2bo3bo2b2o2bob3obo4b2o2b3o5bo\$6b2o2b2o2bobobobo2b3o3bo2b4o3b2o\$o4bo2b2obobo3b3o2b2obobobobo2bobob2o4bo\$4bob2o4bo2b3o2b4o3bo2b2o2b2o3bo\$o3bo2b5o4b2o2bo2b3o3bo2bob2ob2obo3bo\$4b2o2b5ob2obobobo3bo2bo4bo6bo\$o4bob2ob4o3b4o2b2o2b2ob3ob5obo3bo\$4bob2o2b3o2b2obobo3bobo4b2ob3ob3o\$o4b5o2b3ob3ob2o2bobo2b5o3bo2bo3bo\$6bobo2b3o2bo4bo3bo3b2o3b3ob2o\$o3b4o3b3o2bob4o2b2o4b3ob2ob2obo3bo\$7bob2o3bo4bob2ob2o3bobob2ob4o\$o4b2o2bobob2o4b3o2b3obo6bo2b3o3bo\$4bo3bo6b2o4b3obobo4bo2b2ob3o\$o3b3o2b3ob3o4bobob2o3b2obob4o2bo3bo\$7b5ob2o2bobo2b2ob4obo2bo2b2o2bo\$o3bo3b2ob3o2b3o3bobobo4b4ob2o6bo\$5bobobob3obo6b4o2bo3b2ob2obo\$o4bo3bo3b3o2b2o2b3o3bo4b3o4bo3bo\$7bo4bobo2b2o3bob3o2bo5bob2obo\$o3bo3bob5o2b3obobob4ob2o2b3o3bo3bo2\$o43bo2\$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo!`

EDIT: I was talking about that p2, not anything else in their above post.

### Re: Only one object [GAME]

Posted: February 6th, 2019, 1:41 am
77topaz wrote:
Hunting wrote:EDIT: Oops.
- Rules with B2e without at least one of S1c or B1e

Failed

That was specifically for the endemic object challenge, not the one object challenge in general. Though this rule does not satisfy the latter, either:
`x = 2, y = 2, rule = B2e3ei/S2acbo\$o!`

Yes... Just figure it out.

Unrelated:

HOW TO GET RID OF COMMON SMALL OBJECTS/OSCILLATORS

1. Get rid of a dot as a still life(without B0 there's no way that it can act as an oscillator)

Remove S0.

2. Get rid of a domino as a still life

Remove S1e.

3. Get rid of a
`x = 1, y = 3, rule = B2c/Sobo!`

Remove B2c or Add S0 or B2i.

### Re: Only one object [GAME]

Posted: February 6th, 2019, 3:38 am
`x = 3, y = 2, rule = B2ci3a/S2ae3nobo\$2o!`

### Re: Only one object [GAME]

Posted: February 6th, 2019, 5:11 am
`x = 3, y = 2, rule = B2ci3a/S2ae3nobo\$2o!`

Not a one-object rule yet...
`x = 4, y = 3, rule = B2ci3a/S2ae3n2o\$o2bo\$2b2o!`

### Re: Only one object [GAME]

Posted: February 6th, 2019, 8:02 am
Ship also works, so
`x = 13, y = 3, rule = B2ci3a4q6n/S2ae3n2b2o7b2o\$o2bo6bobo\$2o8b2o!`

### Re: Only one object [GAME]

Posted: February 6th, 2019, 3:44 pm
I might be wrong
`x = 4, y = 4, rule = B3cei4eq/S2acn5a6n2bo\$bobo\$o\$bo!`

### Re: Only one object [GAME]

Posted: February 6th, 2019, 5:08 pm
PkmnQ wrote:Ship also works, so
`x = 13, y = 3, rule = B2ci3a4q6n/S2ae3n2b2o7b2o\$o2bo6bobo\$2o8b2o!`

Still some other objects.

Rhombic wrote:I might be wrong
`x = 4, y = 4, rule = B3cei4eq/S2acn5a6n2bo\$bobo\$o\$bo!`

I could've sworn I saw a one-object rule coming on... it may well be.

### Re: Only one object [GAME]

Posted: February 6th, 2019, 5:18 pm
77topaz wrote:I could've sworn I saw a one-object rule coming on... it may well be.

Not yet. Adding B3j or S2k and checking...

EDIT: B3ceij4eq/S2acn5a6n only has one object (as far as I can tell)

### Re: Only one object [GAME]

Posted: February 6th, 2019, 5:23 pm
It seems that posts are being replaced for no reason and it is really annoying when you are responding to something (see my previous post). EDIT: WAIT NVM

### Re: Only one object [GAME]

Posted: February 7th, 2019, 12:38 am
77topaz wrote:
PkmnQ wrote:Ship also works, so
`x = 13, y = 3, rule = B2ci3a4q6n/S2ae3n2b2o7b2o\$o2bo6bobo\$2o8b2o!`

Still some other objects.

Those are just combinations of my focus one, did you even look at them? You probably just looked wt the numbers, but fine. If you're THAT strict, then I'll fix it.

Object 1:
`x = 6, y = 2, rule = B2ci3aj4q6n/S2ae3n2o2b2o\$ob2obo!`

Fixed. No other objects found in soup, original object still works.

Object 2:
`x = 6, y = 3, rule = B2ci3aj4q6n/S2ae3n2o2bo\$o4bo\$bo2b2o!`

Fixed. In fact, it got auto-fixed by the fix for object 1.

Object 3:
Adding B2e won't work, because duoplet.
`x = 6, y = 4, rule = B2ci3aj4q6n/S2aen3n4b2o\$bo3bo\$o3bo\$2o!`

…fixes it! No other objects found in soup, original object still works.

Improved rule:
`x = 2, y = 3, rule = B2ci3aj4q6n/S2aen3nbo\$o\$2o!`

### Re: Only one object [GAME]

Posted: February 7th, 2019, 3:34 am
PkmnQ wrote:Improved rule:
`x = 2, y = 3, rule = B2ci3aj4q6n/S2aen3nbo\$o\$2o!`

New object:
`x = 4, y = 4, rule = B2ci3aj4q6n/S2aen3n2o\$obo\$3bo\$2b2o!`

B2ci3acj4q6n/S2aen3n maybe be a one-object rule, though.

### Re: Only one object [GAME]

Posted: February 7th, 2019, 2:40 pm
OK I really hope this new rule works out...
The only object would be a p14 oscillator (!!)
`x = 3, y = 2, rule = B2ci3aej4aq5i6i/S2aei3eiry5ij3o\$obo!`

Explanation of current modification: B2i=against the typical p2; S3r=against the table p2; B4q=against the aircraft carrier