### Re: Only one object [GAME]

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**February 5th, 2019, 3:23 pm**Βεν Γ. Κυθισ wrote:What?

In the original rule:

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`x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2e4q6n/S1c2a3n`

b2o$obo$2o!

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Posted: **February 5th, 2019, 3:23 pm**

Βεν Γ. Κυθισ wrote:What?

In the original rule:

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`x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2e4q6n/S1c2a3n`

b2o$obo$2o!

Posted: **February 5th, 2019, 3:43 pm**

Okay, but I found a real counterexample for PkmnQ's submission:

I fixed it here:

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`x = 5, y = 4, rule = B2e4q6n/S1c2a3n`

2bobo$2b2o$o$bo!

I fixed it here:

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`x = 5, y = 4, rule = B2e3k4q6n/S1c2a3n`

2bobo$2b2o$o$bo!

Posted: **February 5th, 2019, 3:56 pm**

Βεν Γ. Κυθισ wrote:Okay, but I found a real counterexample for PkmnQ's submission:Code: Select all`x = 5, y = 4, rule = B2e4q6n/S1c2a3n`

2bobo$2b2o$o$bo!

I fixed it here:Code: Select all`x = 5, y = 4, rule = B2e3k4q6n/S1c2a3n`

2bobo$2b2o$o$bo!

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`x = 8, y = 6, rule = B2e3k4q6n/S1c2a3n`

5bobo$6b2o$3b2o$4bo$b2o$obo!

Found in a couple seconds.

Posted: **February 5th, 2019, 4:00 pm**

Removed it:

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`x = 8, y = 6, rule = B2e3kq4q6n/S1c2a3n`

5bobo$6b2o$3b2o$4bo$b2o$obo!

Posted: **February 5th, 2019, 5:12 pm**

Βεν Γ. Κυθισ wrote:Removed it:Code: Select all`x = 8, y = 6, rule = B2e3kq4q6n/S1c2a3n`

5bobo$6b2o$3b2o$4bo$b2o$obo!

This rule still doesn't quite have one object, as the oscillators can be nontrivially combined together: http://catagolue.appspot.com/census/b2e ... a3n/C1/xp2

Posted: **February 5th, 2019, 5:53 pm**

I found three more counterexamples other than the catagoule ones and fixed them as well as the catagoule ones:

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`x = 39, y = 31, rule = B2e3q4qz6n/S1c2a3n`

15bobo$15b2o7bo$14bo3bo4b2o$16b2o7bo$4b2o9bobo$obobo$b2o2bo30bobo$3bo

11bobo18b2o$16b2o6bobo$13b2o9b2o$4bobo7bo7bo$5b2o4b2o9b2o9bobo$3bo6bob

o21b2o$b2o33b2o$2bo26bobo4bo$bo28b2o5bo$10bo10bobo8b2o$11bo9b2o9bobo$o

bo7b2o8bo$b2o9bo9b2o$3bo6bo10bobo$5b2o4bo$4bobo3b2o4$12b2o$12bo6bo$14b

o3bo$13b2o5bo$19b2o!

Posted: **February 5th, 2019, 7:25 pm**

Still not quite a one-object rule: http://catagolue.appspot.com/census/b2e ... s1c2a3n/C1

Aside from the p2s, there's even a p3 now:

Aside from the p2s, there's even a p3 now:

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`x = 5, y = 5, rule = B2e3q4qz6n/S1c2a3n`

bobo$o2b2o$2bo$4bo$3b2o!

Posted: **February 5th, 2019, 7:52 pm**

Code: Select all

`x = 21, y = 19, rule = B2e3jq4qwz6n/S1c2a3kn`

5b2o5bo$5bo6b2o3bobo$6bo4bo4bo2b2o$18bo$20bo$9bobo7b2o$10b2o$12b2o$2bo

bo7bo$3b2o8bo$5b2o$5bobo3$bo8bo$o2bo5bo2bo$2b2o7b2obo$4bo8b2o$3b2o!

Posted: **February 5th, 2019, 7:54 pm**

Βεν Γ. Κυθισ wrote:Code: Select all`x = 21, y = 19, rule = B2e3jq4qwz6n/S1c2a3kn`

5b2o5bo$5bo6b2o3bobo$6bo4bo4bo2b2o$18bo$20bo$9bobo7b2o$10b2o$12b2o$2bo

bo7bo$3b2o8bo$5b2o$5bobo3$bo8bo$o2bo5bo2bo$2b2o7b2obo$4bo8b2o$3b2o!

*APGsearch time!!!*

We’re gonna find a p7 oscillator or something at this rate.

Posted: **February 6th, 2019, 12:43 am**

Βεν Γ. Κυθισ wrote:PkmnQ wrote::roll:Code: Select all`x = 3, y = 2, rule = B2e4q6n/S1c2a3n`

obo$2o!

I removed some terms that didn't appear to have a purpose in this submission and I found a p2 ship that you need to remove:Code: Select all`x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2e/S1c2a3n`

b2o$obo$2o!

THAT'S WHY THE 6N IS THERE

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`x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2e6n/S1c2a3n`

b2o$obo$2o!

Oh, and the 4q is because of an aircraft carrier.

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`x = 4, y = 3, rule = B2e6n/S1c2a3n`

2b2o$o2bo$2o!

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`x = 4, y = 3, rule = B2e4q6n/S1c2a3n`

2b2o$o2bo$2o!

Posted: **February 6th, 2019, 1:26 am**

Moosey wrote:Βεν Γ. Κυθισ wrote:Code: Select all`x = 21, y = 19, rule = B2e3jq4qwz6n/S1c2a3kn`

5b2o5bo$5bo6b2o3bobo$6bo4bo4bo2b2o$18bo$20bo$9bobo7b2o$10b2o$12b2o$2bo

bo7bo$3b2o8bo$5b2o$5bobo3$bo8bo$o2bo5bo2bo$2b2o7b2obo$4bo8b2o$3b2o!

*APGsearch time!!!*

We’re gonna find a p7 oscillator or something at this rate.

It appears this rule may actually be a one-object rule - apgsearch has found more than a million of the object but not yet anything else.

Posted: **February 6th, 2019, 1:28 am**

Ya really searched it?!

REMOVED FAILED RULE. I made a mess.

REMOVED FAILED RULE. I made a mess.

Posted: **February 6th, 2019, 1:32 am**

Hunting wrote:EDIT: Oops.- Rules with B2e without at least one of S1c or B1e

Failed

That was specifically for the endemic object challenge, not the one object challenge in general. Though this rule does not satisfy the latter, either:

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`x = 2, y = 2, rule = B2e3ei/S2ac`

bo$o!

Posted: **February 6th, 2019, 1:33 am**

I was just about to say that thing too!

EDIT: I was talking about that p2, not anything else in their above post.

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`x = 53, y = 45, rule = B2e3ei/S2ac`

42bobobobobobo2$42bobo4bo2bo$45bo4bo$42bo6bo2bo2$42bo9bo2$obobobobobob

obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo2$o43bo$4bobobo2bo3bobo3b3ob

2ob2obobo2bo$o10b2obo2bobo2b5o2b3ob2o4bo4bo$6b4obob5obob4ob2o2bobo2b2o

2bo$o6b3o2bo3b3obo2b3o2bob4ob2o3bo3bo$5b5obobob2ob2o2bobo2bo2bo2b6obo$

o3b2ob7ob2o4b2ob2o2b2obobo2bo2b2o3bo$5bo2bob7ob7ob7o4b2o$o4bo2b5obobo

2bo4bob2obob5o4bo3bo$5b3obob2obo2b8o2bo2b2o4bob2o$o3bob2o2bo3bo2b2o2bo

b3obo4b2o2b3o5bo$6b2o2b2o2bobobobo2b3o3bo2b4o3b2o$o4bo2b2obobo3b3o2b2o

bobobobo2bobob2o4bo$4bob2o4bo2b3o2b4o3bo2b2o2b2o3bo$o3bo2b5o4b2o2bo2b

3o3bo2bob2ob2obo3bo$4b2o2b5ob2obobobo3bo2bo4bo6bo$o4bob2ob4o3b4o2b2o2b

2ob3ob5obo3bo$4bob2o2b3o2b2obobo3bobo4b2ob3ob3o$o4b5o2b3ob3ob2o2bobo2b

5o3bo2bo3bo$6bobo2b3o2bo4bo3bo3b2o3b3ob2o$o3b4o3b3o2bob4o2b2o4b3ob2ob

2obo3bo$7bob2o3bo4bob2ob2o3bobob2ob4o$o4b2o2bobob2o4b3o2b3obo6bo2b3o3b

o$4bo3bo6b2o4b3obobo4bo2b2ob3o$o3b3o2b3ob3o4bobob2o3b2obob4o2bo3bo$7b

5ob2o2bobo2b2ob4obo2bo2b2o2bo$o3bo3b2ob3o2b3o3bobobo4b4ob2o6bo$5bobobo

b3obo6b4o2bo3b2ob2obo$o4bo3bo3b3o2b2o2b3o3bo4b3o4bo3bo$7bo4bobo2b2o3bo

b3o2bo5bob2obo$o3bo3bob5o2b3obobob4ob2o2b3o3bo3bo2$o43bo2$obobobobobob

obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo!

EDIT: I was talking about that p2, not anything else in their above post.

Posted: **February 6th, 2019, 1:41 am**

77topaz wrote:Hunting wrote:EDIT: Oops.- Rules with B2e without at least one of S1c or B1e

Failed

That was specifically for the endemic object challenge, not the one object challenge in general. Though this rule does not satisfy the latter, either:Code: Select all`x = 2, y = 2, rule = B2e3ei/S2ac`

bo$o!

Yes... Just figure it out.

Unrelated:

HOW TO GET RID OF COMMON SMALL OBJECTS/OSCILLATORS

1. Get rid of a dot as a still life(without B0 there's no way that it can act as an oscillator)

Remove S0.

2. Get rid of a domino as a still life

Remove S1e.

3. Get rid of a

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`x = 1, y = 3, rule = B2c/S`

obo!

Remove B2c or Add S0 or B2i.

Posted: **February 6th, 2019, 3:38 am**

Posted: **February 6th, 2019, 5:11 am**

Posted: **February 6th, 2019, 8:02 am**

Ship also works, so

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`x = 13, y = 3, rule = B2ci3a4q6n/S2ae3n`

2b2o7b2o$o2bo6bobo$2o8b2o!

Posted: **February 6th, 2019, 3:44 pm**

I might be wrong

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`x = 4, y = 4, rule = B3cei4eq/S2acn5a6n`

2bo$bobo$o$bo!

Posted: **February 6th, 2019, 5:08 pm**

PkmnQ wrote:Ship also works, soCode: Select all`x = 13, y = 3, rule = B2ci3a4q6n/S2ae3n`

2b2o7b2o$o2bo6bobo$2o8b2o!

Still some other objects.

Rhombic wrote:I might be wrongCode: Select all`x = 4, y = 4, rule = B3cei4eq/S2acn5a6n`

2bo$bobo$o$bo!

I could've sworn I saw a one-object rule coming on... it may well be.

Posted: **February 6th, 2019, 5:18 pm**

77topaz wrote:I could've sworn I saw a one-object rule coming on... it may well be.

Not yet. Adding B3j or S2k and checking...

EDIT: B3ceij4eq/S2acn5a6n only has one object (as far as I can tell)

Posted: **February 6th, 2019, 5:23 pm**

It seems that posts are being replaced for no reason and it is really annoying when you are responding to something (see my previous post). EDIT: WAIT NVM

Posted: **February 7th, 2019, 12:38 am**

77topaz wrote:PkmnQ wrote:Ship also works, soCode: Select all`x = 13, y = 3, rule = B2ci3a4q6n/S2ae3n`

2b2o7b2o$o2bo6bobo$2o8b2o!

Still some other objects.

Those are just combinations of my focus one, did you even look at them? You probably just looked wt the numbers, but fine. If you're THAT strict, then I'll fix it.

Object 1:

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`x = 6, y = 2, rule = B2ci3aj4q6n/S2ae3n`

2o2b2o$ob2obo!

Fixed. No other objects found in soup, original object still works.

Object 2:

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`x = 6, y = 3, rule = B2ci3aj4q6n/S2ae3n`

2o2bo$o4bo$bo2b2o!

Fixed. In fact, it got auto-fixed by the fix for object 1.

Object 3:

Adding B2e won't work, because duoplet.

However, adding S2n…

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`x = 6, y = 4, rule = B2ci3aj4q6n/S2aen3n`

4b2o$bo3bo$o3bo$2o!

…fixes it! No other objects found in soup, original object still works.

Improved rule:

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`x = 2, y = 3, rule = B2ci3aj4q6n/S2aen3n`

bo$o$2o!

Posted: **February 7th, 2019, 3:34 am**

PkmnQ wrote:Improved rule:Code: Select all`x = 2, y = 3, rule = B2ci3aj4q6n/S2aen3n`

bo$o$2o!

New object:

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`x = 4, y = 4, rule = B2ci3aj4q6n/S2aen3n`

2o$obo$3bo$2b2o!

B2ci3acj4q6n/S2aen3n maybe be a one-object rule, though.

Posted: **February 7th, 2019, 2:40 pm**

OK I really hope this new rule works out...

The only object would be a p14 oscillator (!!)

Explanation of current modification: B2i=against the typical p2; S3r=against the table p2; B4q=against the aircraft carrier

The only object would be a p14 oscillator (!!)

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`x = 3, y = 2, rule = B2ci3aej4aq5i6i/S2aei3eiry5ij`

3o$obo!

Explanation of current modification: B2i=against the typical p2; S3r=against the table p2; B4q=against the aircraft carrier