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That's a nice set of results, a shame they're all negative, but not too surprising. A few of them are duplicates of earlier results posted here, but it's good to have a summary of these higher period results in one place. Some of the previous results: 5c/11, w10; 3c/13, w7

Here's a non-monotonic frontend for a 2c/5 spaceship.
`x = 57, y = 44, rule = B3/S2314bo\$12bobo5bo\$11b2ob2o4bobo\$12b2ob3o2b2o\$18b2obo\$19bobo\$17bobo\$13b3obob2o\$14bo3bo\$9bobobo3bob3o\$3bo2b4o7bo3b3o\$2bo3b3o8bo3b2o\$b2o15b2o\$6bo\$o2bob5o\$bo4bo3bo\$2b3obo\$2bo\$3bobob2o2b2o\$4bo2bo\$5b6o\$9b2o\$9b3o\$12bo2b2o\$12b5o2\$14b2o4b2o\$14b3o3b4o\$13bo3bo2bob2ob2o\$14bo2bo3bo4bo\$14bo2bo3bo12b2o\$21b2o11b3o\$21bo4bo2b2o5bo\$21b4ob4obo3b3o12b2o\$22b2ob2o4b2obob2o18bo\$31bo4b3o17bo\$27bo5b2o10b9o2bo\$34bobo3b2o2bo2b2o3b3o\$35b3o4bob2o2bo4bo2bo\$36bob4o3b2o2bobo2bo\$39b2o5b2obo2bobo\$47bo3b2ob2o\$49b2o5bo\$50bo!`

Is such a ship known? I couldn't find an example in my perusal of the pattern collections, the wiki, or this forum. There are quite a few alternative frontends, I just chose this one and tried to extend it. I was quite hopeful of being able to complete it after it split in two and there were several narrow connections in the extended partials on both sides. But after meandering through the search space with JLS and sifting through the various narrow connections trying to find known components which could complete the ship, I've been unsuccessful. There were several other partials extending the botttom connection but I haven't recorded all of them. This was just the longest I've managed to extend the two parts (most time spent on the bottom part) although perhaps not the most promising.
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wildmyron wrote:Here's a non-monotonic frontend for a 2c/5 spaceship.

This could be interesting. I'm not aware of any non-monotonic 2c/5 ships, although I haven't really been looking, so there might already be something known.

Billabob wrote:I've spent the last month or so using ntzfind to search for low-width high-period ships

What version of ntzfind did you use?
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wildmyron wrote:That's a nice set of results, a shame they're all negative, but not too surprising. A few of them are duplicates of earlier results posted here, but it's good to have a summary of these higher period results in one place. Some of the previous results: 5c/11, w10; 3c/13, w7

Thanks. The duplicate results are probably not duplicate results, I just forgot to remove them before posting the list. Before running any searches I made a list in Excel of known spaceship speeds/widths, using the wiki's Status Page and this thread. When I posted the list I just copy-pasted from Excel into the reply box and re-formatted.

Sokwe wrote:What version of ntzfind did you use?

I used rokicki's updated version.
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Finished 1/2:
`x = 119, y = 41, rule = B3/S2314b2o\$13bo2bo\$12bobo3bo\$11b2o2bo3b2o\$12b2o4b2obo3b2o47bo12bo\$19bo3bob2o13b2o9b2o2b2o16b2o12b3o3b2o23bo\$18bo4b3obo10b2ob2o8bobo2b2o14bob3o8b3o2bobobo5b2obobo11b2o\$17b3o3bob5ob2o4bob2o2b2o6bobo5bo11b2ob5o5b2obo4bob2o3bo5bo11bo\$13b3obobo2bo6b4obobo3bo2b4o5bob2o4bo14bo3bo3bo3bo2bobo5bob2o3bo2bo9bo\$14bo8b4o7bobob3o3bo2bo5b2o3bo6bobobob2o4bo6b2obobo2bo3b2obo2b2o4bo7b3o\$9bobobo10b2o15bo5b2o5b4o6b4obo5bobob2o12b2o4bobo5b2o2bobo2b3o\$3bo2b4o19b2ob2o2bo3bo3bobo7bo9bob2obob3obobo3b2obo9b4o3bo6bo4b2o\$2bo3b3o20bo2bobo6b2o10bo5b5o5bobob2obo2b2obo14b3o3bo3b2obo2bo4bo\$b2o26b3obo2bo2b11o2bo3b2ob5obobobobobo4b2o4bo16bo3bo4bo3b2obo\$6bo29b2obobo2bo5b2o5bo9bobobobo5b3o19bo2b3o7b2obo\$o2bob5o33bo5bo9bo3bo8b2obo3b3o20bo3bo\$bo4bo3bo33bo2b2o2bob2ob2o17bo3b2o23b3o9b2o\$2b3obo38b4o3bo4bo16bobo27b3o11bo\$2bo43b2o27bo\$3bobob2o2b2o\$4bo2bo\$5b6o\$9b2o\$9b3o\$12bo2b2o\$12b5o2\$14b2o4b2o\$14b3o3b4o\$13bo3bo2bob2ob2o\$14bo2bo3bo4bo8b3o5b3o10bob2o\$14bo2bo3bo13b2o5b4o8bo3b2o5bobo\$21b2o11bo2b3ob2o8b2obo3b2obob3o2bo\$21bo4bo2b2o4bo7bo6bo3bobo4bob2o3bo3b2o\$21b4ob4obo11b3o3b2ob2o5b2o3b2ob3obo2bo\$22b2ob2o4b2ob2o3b2o3bobobob2obo7bo6bobo\$31bo3b3o7b2ob3ob2o11b3obo4bo\$27bo5b2o12bob2o2bo11bo3bo3bo\$33b2o11b3o18bo4bo\$47bob2ob2o13bob2o\$48bo!`
Still drifting.
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I was about 1.8 million seconds into the C/8 w10 u search when my computer randomly shut down while I was asleep. The final partial was this:
`.......o...o..............o...o..............o...o.................................o...o............oooo.oooo..........o.......o.........oo.oo.oo.oo.......oo..o.o.o..oo......oo...ooo...oo.....oooooo...oooooo..............................................................ooo.......ooo.........................o..o.....o..o.........o.....o.........ooo.......ooo......o....ooo....o.......................o.ooo...o...ooo.o.`

How do I use the dump feature to help stop that problem? Do I need to use a different ntzfind than rokicki's?
Things to work on:
- Find a (7,1)c/8 ship in a Non-totalistic rule (someone please search the rules)
- Find a C/10 in JustFriends
- Find a C/10 in Day and Night
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AforAmpere wrote:I was about 1.8 million seconds into the C/8 w10 u search when my computer randomly shut down while I was asleep. How do I use the dump feature to help stop that problem? Do I need to use a different ntzfind than rokicki's?

Yes. Currently, Tom's version doesn't have the dump feature. It probably wouldn't be too difficult to add it back in, but I don't have the time right now.
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A p15 c/3o tail. Can it be used as a tagalong?
`x = 5, y = 5, rule = B3/S234bo\$3o\$obo\$3o\$4bo!`
If you're the person that uploaded to Sakagolue illegally, please PM me.
`x = 17, y = 10, rule = B3/S23b2ob2obo5b2o\$11b4obo\$2bob3o2bo2b3o\$bo3b2o4b2o\$o2bo2bob2o3b4o\$bob2obo5bo2b2o\$2b2o4bobo2b3o\$bo3b5ob2obobo\$2bo5bob2o\$4bob2o2bobobo!`

(Check gen 2)

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Bullet51 wrote:Finished 1/2:
`<snip rle>`

Nice work, you've also persisted with the top part a lot longer than I had.

Saka wrote:A p15 c/3o tail. Can it be used as a tagalong?
`x = 5, y = 5, rule = B3/S234bo\$3o\$obo\$3o\$4bo!`

Cute. It can't be supported by a p3 c/3 because the dots would interfere with the pre-TL evolution, so you'd need a p15 ship with appropriate sparks.
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Bullet51 wrote:Finished 1/2

Here's a completion of the other side:
`x = 134, y = 41, rule = B3/S2314b2o\$13bo2bo\$12bobo3bo\$11b2o2bo3b2o\$12b2o4b2obo3b2o47bo12bo\$19bo3bob2o13b2o9b2o2b2o16b2o12b3o3b2o19b2o\$18bo4b3obo10b2ob2o8bobo2b2o14bob3o8b3o2bobobo5b2obobo7b3o\$17b3o3bob5ob2o4bob2o2b2o6bobo5bo11b2ob5o5b2obo4bob2o3bo5bo6b2o10bo\$13b3obobo2bo6b4obobo3bo2b4o5bob2o4bo14bo3bo3bo3bo2bobo5bob2o3bo2bo6bo6b2o3b3o\$14bo8b4o7bobob3o3bo2bo5b2o3bo6bobobob2o4bo6b2obobo2bo3b2obo2b2o4bo2bo3b2o5b2o3b5o\$9bobobo10b2o15bo5b2o5b4o6b4obo5bobob2o12b2o4bobo5b2o7bo5b2obo4b2o\$3bo2b4o19b2ob2o2bo3bo3bobo7bo9bob2obob3obobo3b2obo9b4o3bo6bo3bo2b2o5bo7b2obo\$2bo3b3o20bo2bobo6b2o10bo5b5o5bobob2obo2b2obo14b3o3bo3b2obo3bo6b3o6bo\$b2o26b3obo2bo2b11o2bo3b2ob5obobobobobo4b2o4bo16bo3bo4bo3bo6bo3bo4bobo\$6bo29b2obobo2bo5b2o5bo9bobobobo5b3o19bo2b3o8bo4b2obo3b4o\$o2bob5o33bo5bo9bo3bo8b2obo3b3o20bo3bo9b2o2bo4bo\$bo4bo3bo33bo2b2o2bob2ob2o17bo3b2o23b3o13bo3bo\$2b3obo38b4o3bo4bo16bobo27b3o14b2o\$2bo43b2o27bo\$3bobob2o2b2o\$4bo2bo\$5b6o\$9b2o\$9b3o\$12bo2b2o\$12b5o2\$14b2o4b2o\$14b3o3b4o\$13bo3bo2bob2ob2o\$14bo2bo3bo4bo8b3o5b3o10bob2o\$14bo2bo3bo13b2o5b4o8bo3b2o5bobo\$21b2o11bo2b3ob2o8b2obo3b2obob3o2bo\$21bo4bo2b2o4bo7bo6bo3bobo4bob2o3bo3b2o\$21b4ob4obo11b3o3b2ob2o5b2o3b2ob3obo2bo\$22b2ob2o4b2ob2o3b2o3bobobob2obo7bo6bobo\$31bo3b3o7b2ob3ob2o11b3obo4bo\$27bo5b2o12bob2o2bo11bo3bo3bo\$33b2o11b3o18bo4bo\$47bob2ob2o13bob2o\$48bo!`

I'm sure it's much bigger than it needs to be.
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wildmyron wrote:Cute. It can't be supported by a p3 c/3 because the dots would interfere with the pre-TL evolution, so you'd need a p15 ship with appropriate sparks.

Yes, but I don't know if p15 c/3 ships even exist. Where can I find them?
If you're the person that uploaded to Sakagolue illegally, please PM me.
`x = 17, y = 10, rule = B3/S23b2ob2obo5b2o\$11b4obo\$2bob3o2bo2b3o\$bo3b2o4b2o\$o2bo2bob2o3b4o\$bob2obo5bo2b2o\$2b2o4bobo2b3o\$bo3b5ob2obobo\$2bo5bob2o\$4bob2o2bobobo!`

(Check gen 2)

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Saka wrote:I don't know if p15 c/3 ships even exist. Where can I find them?

The first post in this thread contains a link to a post with my moving object collection. It contains pretty much every interesting moving except for large constructed patterns like caterpillars, half-baked ships, etc.

Edit: For your specific question, look in velocity-c3/ships-c3-hp.rle and in the c3-extended collection.

Edit 2: smaller stabilization of the non-monotonic 2c/5 ship:
`x = 80, y = 41, rule = B3/S2314b2o\$13bo2bo\$12bobo3bo\$11b2o2bo3b2o\$12b2o4b2obo3b2o\$19bo3bob2o13b2o9b2o2b2o\$18bo4b3obo10b2ob2o8bobo2b2o6b2o3bo4b3o\$17b3o3bob5ob2o4bob2o2b2o6bobo5bo3b2obo2b3o2bo2b3o\$13b3obobo2bo6b4obobo3bo2b4o5bob2o4bo3bob2obo4b5o\$14bo8b4o7bobob3o3bo2bo5b2o3bo9b2o6bobo\$9bobobo10b2o15bo5b2o5b4o6bo2b3o2b2o3bo\$3bo2b4o19b2ob2o2bo3bo3bobo7bo9bo3bo2b2o\$2bo3b3o20bo2bobo6b2o10bo5b5o3bo4bo\$b2o26b3obo2bo2b11o2bo3b2ob5o9bo\$6bo29b2obobo2bo5b2o5bo8bo\$o2bob5o33bo5bo9bo3bobo\$bo4bo3bo33bo2b2o2bob2ob2o\$2b3obo38b4o3bo4bo\$2bo43b2o\$3bobob2o2b2o\$4bo2bo\$5b6o\$9b2o\$9b3o\$12bo2b2o\$12b5o2\$14b2o4b2o\$14b3o3b4o\$13bo3bo2bob2ob2o\$14bo2bo3bo4bo8b3o5b3o10bob2o\$14bo2bo3bo13b2o5b4o8bo3b2o5bobo\$21b2o11bo2b3ob2o8b2obo3b2obob3o2bo\$21bo4bo2b2o4bo7bo6bo3bobo4bob2o3bo3b2o\$21b4ob4obo11b3o3b2ob2o5b2o3b2ob3obo2bo\$22b2ob2o4b2ob2o3b2o3bobobob2obo7bo6bobo\$31bo3b3o7b2ob3ob2o11b3obo4bo\$27bo5b2o12bob2o2bo11bo3bo3bo\$33b2o11b3o18bo4bo\$47bob2ob2o13bob2o\$48bo!`

Edit 2: Here are two known 2c/5 tagalong attachments that should have been included in the small ships collection, but weren't for some reason:
`x = 28, y = 67, rule = B3/S238bo\$6b2o3bo\$6b2o2bo8bo\$6b4obo3b2o2bo\$14bo3bo\$14bobo\$8bo4b2obo\$8b2o4b2o\$7bo5bo\$11bob3o\$5b2o\$5bo\$5b2o3bo\$7bo2bo\$8b2o2\$5b2o\$4b6o\$3bo3bo\$3bo4b2o\$3bo2bo2\$5b2o\$5bo2\$b2obo\$ob2obo\$o3bo\$ob2o\$b2obo\$4bobo\$4bobo14\$7b3o\$6bo\$9bo14bo\$4b2o16b2o3bo\$2b2o18b2o2bo\$b2ob5o13b4obo\$o7bo4bo\$b3o2b2obo3b2o\$2b2o2bo4bo3bo\$11b2o2bo5b3o\$15bo3b2o\$15bo5bo\$11b2o2bo\$2b2o2bo4bo3bo\$b3o2b2obo3b2o\$o7bo4bo\$b2ob5o\$2b2o\$4b2o\$9bo\$6bo\$7b3o!`

Edit 2: further reduction of the non-monotonic 2c/5:
`x = 75, y = 98, rule = B3/S2341b2o2b2o\$40b2o\$41bob2o\$37bo6bo\$37bo\$36bo6bo\$37b2obobo\$14b2o21b2o5bobo\$13bo2bo22b8o\$12bobo3bo\$11b2o2bo3b4o16b8o\$12b2o4b2o2b2obo2bo4bo3b2o5bobo\$19bo2bob2o4bo3bo2b2obobo\$20b2ob2o5b2o2b3o6bo\$17bo3b2o6bo2bo4bo\$13b3ob3o2bob2o3b2ob3o2bo6bo\$14bo4bo4bobo2b2ob2o7bob2o\$9bobobo7bo2bob2o12b2o\$3bo2b4o12b2ob3o13b2o2b2o\$2bo3b3o15b2o\$b2o21b2o\$6bo\$o2bob5o\$bo4bo3bo\$2b3obo\$2bo\$3bobob2o2b2o\$4bo2bo\$5b6o\$9b2o\$9b3o\$12bo2b2o\$12b5o2\$14b2o4b2o\$14b3o3b4o\$13bo3bo2bob2ob2o\$14bo2bo3bo4bo8b3o5b3o10bob2o\$14bo2bo3bo13b2o5b4o8bo3b2o5bobo\$21b2o11bo2b3ob2o8b2obo3b2obob3o2bo\$21bo4bo2b2o4bo7bo6bo3bobo4bob2o3bo3b2o\$21b4ob4obo11b3o3b2ob2o5b2o3b2ob3obo2bo\$22b2ob2o4b2ob2o3b2o3bobobob2obo7bo6bobo\$31bo3b3o7b2ob3ob2o11b3obo4bo\$27bo5b2o12bob2o2bo11bo3bo3bo\$33b2o11b3o18bo4bo\$47bob2ob2o13bob2o\$48bo10\$14b2o\$13bo2bo24b2o2b2o\$12bobo3bo21b2o\$11b2o2bo3b4o18bob2o\$12b2o4b2o2b2obo2bo4bo3bo6bo\$19bo2bob2o4bo3bo2bo\$20b2ob2o5b2o2b3o6bo\$17bo3b2o6bo2bo4b2obobo\$13b3ob3o2bob2o3b2ob3o2b2o5bobo\$14bo4bo4bobo2b2ob2o5b8o\$9bobobo7bo2bob2o\$3bo2b4o12b2ob3o11b8o\$2bo3b3o15b2o11b2o5bobo\$b2o21b2o11b2obobo\$6bo29bo6bo\$o2bob5o27bo\$bo4bo3bo26bo6bo\$2b3obo34bob2o\$2bo37b2o\$3bobob2o2b2o28b2o2b2o\$4bo2bo\$5b6o\$9b2o\$9b3o\$12bo2b2o\$12b5o2\$14b2o4b2o\$14b3o3b4o\$13bo3bo2bob2ob2o\$14bo2bo3bo4bo8b3o5b3o10bob2o\$14bo2bo3bo13b2o5b4o8bo3b2o5bobo\$21b2o11bo2b3ob2o8b2obo3b2obob3o2bo\$21bo4bo2b2o4bo7bo6bo3bobo4bob2o3bo3b2o\$21b4ob4obo11b3o3b2ob2o5b2o3b2ob3obo2bo\$22b2ob2o4b2ob2o3b2o3bobobob2obo7bo6bobo\$31bo3b3o7b2ob3ob2o11b3obo4bo\$27bo5b2o12bob2o2bo11bo3bo3bo\$33b2o11b3o18bo4bo\$47bob2ob2o13bob2o\$48bo!`

I found a partial result using gfind, and recognized a component from a small symmetric spaceship.
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@Sokwe: Thank you for completing the non-monotonic 2c/5 ship, and nice work on the reductions.
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Fairly boring p18, p24, and p30 c/3 orthogonal ships:
`x = 166, y = 76, rule = B3/S2322b2o58b2o58b2o\$18b3ob2ob3o50b3ob2ob3o50b3ob2ob3o\$17bo10bo48bo10bo48bo10bo\$18bob2o2b2obo50bob2o2b2obo50bob2o2b2obo\$22b2o58b2o58b2o\$19bo2b2o2bo52bo2b2o2bo52bo2b2o2bo\$19bob4obo52bob4obo52bob4obo\$17bob2o4b2obo48bob2o4b2obo48bob2o4b2obo\$16b2ob3o2b3ob2o46b2ob3o2b3ob2o46b2ob3o2b3ob2o\$15bo2bo3b2o3bo2bo44bo2bo3b2o3bo2bo44bo2bo3b2o3bo2bo\$19bo6bo52bo6bo52bo6bo\$18bo3b2o3bo50bo3b2o3bo50bo3b2o3bo\$19bo6bo52bo6bo52bo6bo2\$18b2o6b2o50b2o6b2o50b2o6b2o\$17bo2bo4bo2bo48bo2bo4bo2bo48bo2bo4bo2bo\$17bo10bo48bo10bo48bo10bo\$15bo14bo44bo14bo44bo14bo\$15bo14bo44bo14bo44bo14bo\$17bob2o4b2obo48bob2o4b2obo48bob2o4b2obo\$19b2o4b2o52b2o4b2o52b2o4b2o\$18bobo4bobo50bobo4bobo50bobo4bobo\$16b2o10b2o46b2o10b2o46b2o10b2o\$17b3o6b3o48b3o6b3o48b3o6b3o\$17bo2b2o2b2o2bo48bo2b2o2b2o2bo48bo2b2o2b2o2bo\$19b2o4b2o52b2o4b2o52b2o4b2o\$18bobo4bobo50bobo4bobo50bobo4bobo2\$15bo2b2o6b2o2bo44bo2b2o6b2o2bo44bo2b2o6b2o2bo\$15b5o6b5o44b5o6b5o44b5o6b5o\$15bo4b2o2b2o4bo44bo4b2o2b2o4bo44bo4b2o2b2o4bo\$15bo14bo44bo14bo44bo14bo\$14b2o5bo2bo5b2o42b2o5bo2bo5b2o42b2o5bo2bo5b2o\$14b2obo10bob2o42b2obo10bob2o42b2obo10bob2o\$16bo12bo46bo12bo46bo12bo\$16bo12bo46bo12bo46bo12bo\$16b2o4b2o4b2o46b2o4b2o4b2o46b2o4b2o4b2o\$17b2o8b2o48b2o8b2o48b2o8b2o2\$17bo10bo48bo10bo48bo10bo\$18b10o50b10o50b10o\$b3o9b3o14b3o9b3o17bo11bo\$bobo9bobo14bobo9bobo16bobo9bobo\$o3b2o5b2o3bo12bo3b2o5b2o3bo14b2obo9bob2o13bo11bo20bo11bo14bo11bo\$o15bo12bo15bo14b2o2bo7bo2b2o12bobo9bobo18bobo9bobo12bobo9bobo\$o5bo3bo5bo12bo5bo3bo5bo13b3o3bo5bo3b3o10b2obo9bob2o16b2obo9bob2o10b2obo9bob2o\$bob3ob3ob3obo14bob3ob3ob3obo15b2o2b9o2b2o11b2o2bo7bo2b2o16b2o2bo7bo2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2bo7bo2b2o\$b2o11b2o14b2o11b2o15b2ob11ob2o10b3o3bo5bo3b3o14b3o3bo5bo3b3o8b3o3bo5bo3b3o\$2b2o9b2o16b2o9b2o17bo6bo6bo12b2o2b9o2b2o16b2o2b9o2b2o10b2o2b9o2b2o\$61b3o9b3o12b2ob11ob2o16b2ob11ob2o10b2ob11ob2o\$3bobo5bobo18bobo5bobo19b3o7b3o7bo6bo6bo6bo18bo6bo6bo12bo6bo6bo\$3bobo5bobo18bobo5bobo46b3o9b3o18b3o9b3o12b3o9b3o\$3bo4bo4bo18bo4bo4bo19b2o9b2o15b3o7b3o20b3o7b3o14b3o7b3o\$5bobobobo22bobobobo25bobobo\$4b2obobob2o20b2obobob2o23bobobobo18b2o9b2o20b2o9b2o14b2o9b2o\$4bo2bobo2bo20bo2bobo2bo22b2obobob2o21bobobo28bobobo22bobobo\$3bob2o3b2obo18bob2o3b2obo20bo3bobo3bo19bobobobo26bobobobo20bobobobo\$4b3o3b3o20b3o3b3o21bo3bobo3bo18b2obobob2o24b2obobob2o18b2obobob2o\$3b2o7b2o18b2o7b2o23bo3bo20bo3bobo3bo22bo3bobo3bo16bo3bobo3bo\$3b2obo3bob2o18b2obo3bob2o23bo3bo20bo3bobo3bo22bo3bobo3bo16bo3bobo3bo\$bo4b2ob2o4bo14bo4b2ob2o4bo17b3ob2ob2ob3o19bo3bo28bo3bo22bo3bo\$bo4b2ob2o4bo14bo4b2ob2o4bo17bo11bo19bo3bo28bo3bo22bo3bo\$bo2bo7bo2bo14bo2bo7bo2bo15b3o2b3ob3o2b3o13b3ob2ob2ob3o20b3ob2ob2ob3o14b3ob2ob2ob3o\$3b5ob5o18b5ob5o19b3o7b3o15bo11bo20bo11bo14bo11bo\$4bo7bo20bo7bo21bo2bo3bo2bo14b3o2b3ob3o2b3o16b3o2b3ob3o2b3o10b3o2b3ob3o2b3o\$2b3o2bobo2b3o16b3o2bobo2b3o18bo4bobo4bo15b3o7b3o20b3o7b3o14b3o7b3o\$bo5bobo5bo14bo5bobo5bo17b3o7b3o16bo2bo3bo2bo22bo2bo3bo2bo16bo2bo3bo2bo\$bo13bo14bo13bo16bobo9bobo14bo4bobo4bo20bo4bobo4bo14bo4bobo4bo\$2bob2o5b2obo16bob2o5b2obo17b2o11b2o14b3o7b3o20b3o7b3o14b3o7b3o\$2b2o9b2o16b2o9b2o17b2obo7bob2o13bobo9bobo18bobo9bobo12bobo9bobo\$2bo11bo16bo11bo17b2obo7bob2o13b2o11b2o18b2o11b2o12b2o11b2o\$bobo9bobo14bobo9bobo16bo13bo13b2obo7bob2o18b2obo7bob2o12b2obo7bob2o\$62bo11bo14b2obo7bob2o18b2obo7bob2o12b2obo7bob2o\$b2o11b2o14b2o11b2o16bo13bo13bo13bo18bo13bo12bo13bo\$90bo11bo20bo11bo14bo11bo\$89bo13bo18bo13bo12bo13bo!`

They're based on a period-6 ship found by Tim Coe (Apr 2016) that is closely related to a period-78 puffer by Josh Ball (Sep 2011):
`x = 67, y = 46, rule = B3/S238b2o29b3o17b3o\$4b3ob2ob3o28bo15bo\$3bo10bo27b3o11b3o\$4bob2o2b2obo21b2ob3obobo11bobob3ob2o\$8b2o25b2o3bo4bo9bo4bo3b2o\$5bo2b2o2bo21bo2bo6bo11bo6bo2bo\$5bob4obo\$3bob2o4b2obo26b2obo11bob2o\$2b2ob3o2b3ob2o19b2o4b2ob2o9b2ob2o4b2o\$bo2bo3b2o3bo2bo18b2ob2o6b2o5b2o6b2ob2o\$5bo6bo21bo3b2o6bo7bo6b2o3bo\$4bo3b2o3bo24b2o7bo5bo7b2o\$5bo6bo33bo7bo2\$4b2o6b2o32b2o5b2o\$3bo2bo4bo2bo30bo2bo3bo2bo\$3bo10bo30bo9bo\$bo14bo26bo13bo\$bo14bo26bo13bo\$3bob2o4b2obo30bob2o3b2obo\$5b2o4b2o34b2o3b2o\$4bobo4bobo32bobo3bobo\$2b2o10b2o28b2o9b2o\$3b3o6b3o30b3o5b3o\$3bo2b2o2b2o2bo30bo2b2ob2o2bo\$5b2o4b2o34b2o3b2o\$4bobo4bobo32bobo3bobo2\$bo2b2o6b2o2bo26bo2b2o5b2o2bo\$b5o6b5o26b5o5b5o\$bo4b2o2b2o4bo26bo4b2ob2o4bo\$bo14bo26bo13bo\$2o5bo2bo5b2o24b2o5bobo5b2o\$2obo10bob2o24b2obo9bob2o\$2bo12bo28bo11bo\$2bo12bo28bo11bo\$2b2o4b2o4b2o28b2o4bo4b2o\$3b2o8b2o30b2o7b2o2\$3bo10bo30bo9bo\$4b10o32b9o2\$8b2o\$7b4o\$6bo4bo\$6bo4bo!`
-Matthias Merzenich
Sokwe
Moderator

Posts: 1364
Joined: July 9th, 2009, 2:44 pm

A new 71-cell 2c/5 ship based on Paul Tooke's 30-cell ship:
`x = 25, y = 17, rule = B3/S2316b2o2bobo\$15b2o3b2o\$16b2o4bo\$19b2o\$12bo2b2o3bo\$6bo4bob3o5bo\$5bobo5b2o6bo\$4bo3b4o5b2obob3o\$5bob3obo6bo2b2o\$6b2o11bob2o\$19bobo\$2b2obo\$bobo2bo\$2o3bo\$bobobo\$2b2ob2o\$5bo!`

It can be followed by a known tagalong, giving four new 88-cell ships:
`x = 148, y = 22, rule = B3/S23143bo2b2o\$16bobo123bob2o\$15bo4bo32b2o2bobo9bo22b2o2bobo4bo38bo2bo\$15bo4bob2o28b2o3b2o6b2o2bo21b2o3b2o3b3o37bo2bo\$15b2o3bo32b2o4bo4bo3bo23b2o4bo2b2o40bo\$56b2o6bobo28b2o7bo26b2o2bobo2b2o\$15b5o29bo2b2o3bo5b2obo21bo2b2o3bo5bo2bo24b2o3b2o3b3o\$6bo3b3ob2ob3o23bo4bob3o5bo5b2o16bo4bob3o5bo5bo2bo24b2o4bo4bo\$4b2o5b2o3bob2o2bo19bobo5b2o6bo4bo17bobo5b2o6bo5bob2o27b2o\$4b2o2b3o5b2obo2bo18bo3b4o5b2obob3ob3o14bo3b4o5b2obob3o3bo2b2o18bo2b2o3bo\$4b4o2bo11bo19bob3obo6bo2b2o21bob3obo6bo2b2o22bo4bob3o5bo\$18b3o4bo17b2o11bob2o22b2o11bob2o21bobo5b2o6bo\$19b2o35bobo36bobo21bo3b4o5b2obob3o\$b2obo18b2obo12b2obo35b2obo38bob3obo6bo2b2o\$ob2obo18bobo11bobo2bo33bobo2bo38b2o11bob2o\$o3bo19bo3bo8b2o3bo33b2o3bo52bobo\$ob2o21bo3bo8bobobo34bobobo35b2obo\$b2obo20b2o12b2ob2o34b2ob2o33bobo2bo\$4bobo20bo2bo11bo38bo33b2o3bo\$4bobo21b2o86bobobo\$117b2ob2o\$120bo!`
-Matthias Merzenich
Sokwe
Moderator

Posts: 1364
Joined: July 9th, 2009, 2:44 pm

I found a small c/3 tagalong that gives two new 50-cell ships:
`x = 38, y = 16, rule = B3/S235bo21bo\$4bobo19bobo\$4bobo19bobo6bobo\$4bo6bo2b2o10bo6bo2bo\$8b2obo2bo15b2obo2b2o\$3b2o8bobo9b2o\$b7o15b7o\$o21bo\$obo3b3o13bobo3b3o\$o5bo15bo5bo\$bo5b4o12bo5b4o\$bobo4bo14bobo4bo\$2bo5b2o14bo5b2o\$b2o6bo13b2o6bo\$2bobo5bo13bobo5bo\$3bo21bo!`

I then noticed that the connection area could be found in two smaller ships. I tried the tagalong on these ships, but it only worked for one of them, giving two new 49-cell ships:
`x = 32, y = 19, rule = B3/S236bo18bo\$5bobo16bobo\$5b2o17b2o\$5bo18bo\$6bo18bo\$4b2ob2o14b2ob2o\$4bo2b3o13bo2b3o\$3b2o17b2o\$2bo5bo12bo5bo\$2b4o2bo12b4o2bo\$o6bo11bo6bo\$5o14b5o\$o18bo9bobo\$bo3b2obo2b2o7bo3b2obo2bo\$bo6bo2bo8bo6bo2b2o\$3bo6bobo9bo\$b2o17b2o\$b2o17b2o\$3bo18bo!`

Surprisingly, however, the other ship can still support the tagalong, but in a slightly different location, giving two new 47-cell ships:
`x = 36, y = 23, rule = B3/S233bo20bo\$2bobo18bobo\$bo2bo17bo2bo\$2bo20bo\$3b2o19b2o2\$5bo6bobo11bo\$2bo7bo2bo9bo7bo2b2o\$bobob2obobo2b2o7bobob2obobo2bo\$2o19b2o10bobo\$bo2bo2bo14bo2bo2bo\$b2o19b2o\$2bo3bo16bo3bo\$3bo2bo17bo2bo\$5bo20bo\$5b2o19b2o2\$7b3o18b3o\$7b3o18b3o2\$6b2o19b2o\$6b2o19b2o\$8bo20bo!`

Here is the updated small c/3 ships collection:
`#C All known c/3 ships up to 50 bits.#C Spaceships found by Dean Hickerson, Stephen Silver, Jason Summers,#C David Bell, David Eppstein, and Matthias Merzenich.x = 799, y = 462, rule = 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I also expanded the list of known period-2 ships up to 75 bits:
`#C All known period-2 ships up to 75 bits#C Spaceships found by Dean Hickerson, David Bell, Harmut Holzwart,#C Aidan F. Pierce, and Matthias Merzenichx = 611, y = 281, rule = 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I've done complete searches up to width-26 (asymmetric) for p2 ships below 76 cells.
-Matthias Merzenich
Sokwe
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I ran what I think is a complete search for (2,0)c/4 spaceships up to width-13 (asymmetric) with a minimum population of no more than 50 cells using Nicolay Beluchenko's version of WLS (available here). Here are the new ships, with a few extras having widths up to 15:
`x = 101, y = 281, rule = B3/S23obobo3bobobo20b2o4b5o\$31bo6bo5bo\$4bo3bo21bo6bo\$30bo13bo\$obobo3bobobo17b8o\$35b2o\$4bo3bo3bo2\$obobo3bobobo18b2o\$30b2ob2o\$31b4o\$32b2o16\$32b2o\$31b4o\$30b2ob2o\$obobo3bobobo18b2o2\$4bo3bo3bo23bo\$36b2ob2o\$obobo3bobobo22bo5bo\$35bo\$4bo7bo23bo\$37b2obo\$obobo3bobobo17b4o5b5o\$30bo3bo7bo\$30bo\$31bo2bo18\$31b4o\$3bo3bo4bo18bo3bo\$31bo6b2o\$3bo3bo4bo19bo2bo2b3obo\$37bo2b2obo\$3bobobo4bo24b2obo\$40bo7bo\$7bo4bo28bo\$33b4o5bo5bo\$7bo4bo20bo3bo5b5o\$33bo\$34bo2bo18\$31b2obo\$30bo3bo\$o3bo3bobobo17bo\$30b2obo2bo\$o3bo7bo24bo\$32b2obo\$obobo3bobobo21bo\$35bo4bobo\$4bo7bo20b2obobobo2bobo\$42b4o\$4bo3bobobo18b2obo2bo5bo3bo\$31bo13bo\$31bo3bo9bo\$32b2obo19\$o3bo3bo3bo25b2o\$31b2o5b2o\$o3bo3bo3bo17b2ob4o\$31b5o3bobo\$obobo3bobobo19b3o4bo3b2o\$40b2o3bo\$4bo7bo28bo\$31b6o5bobo\$4bo7bo18bo5bo\$31bo\$32bo4bo\$34b2o19\$o3bo3bobobo39bo2bo\$30b4o4b2o4bo6bo12bobo\$o3bo3bo21bo3bo2bo3b2obo6bo3bo7bo\$30bo6bo4bo8b4o7b2o3bo\$obobo3bobobo18bo2bo2b3ob2o14b3obo3b2o\$34bo5b3o14b2o3b2o\$4bo3bo3bo18bo3bo21bo\$30bo26b2o\$4bo3bobobo17bo4bo\$30b5o3b4o11bo2bo3b4o\$38bo3bo9bo7bo3bo\$38bo13bo3bo3bo\$39bo2bo9b4o5bo2bo17\$82bo2bo11bo2bo\$o3bo3bobobo18b4o7bo12b4o7bo14bo14bo\$31bo3bo5bobo11bo3bo5bobo13bo3bo10bo3bo\$o3bo7bo18bo23bo11bo13b4o11b4o\$32bo2bo2bob2obo12bo2bo2bob2o24b2obo\$obobo7bo24b2o22b2o24bob5o\$36bo23bo25bo7bo\$4bo7bo23bo2bo2bo17bo2bo2bo17b2o4b2o\$32b2o3bobobo2bobo9b2o3bobobo2bobo11bo5b3o2bo\$4bo7bo18b4o3bo3b3obo8b4o3bo3b3obo10bo9bo\$30b2ob2o7b3o9b2ob2o7b3o12bo4bo\$31b2o22b2o24b5o18\$31bo2bo19bo2bo5bo\$30bo22bo7bo3bo\$o3bo3bobobo17bo3bo18bo3bo2bo\$30b4o4bo14b4o3bo4bo\$o3bo3bo3bo23b2obobo18b5o\$36bo3b2o\$obobo3bobobo23b5obo15bo\$37b2o18b3obo\$4bo3bo3bo43b2o2b2o\$33b2o3bob4o13bobobob2o\$4bo3bobobo19b4o3bo4bo13bo2bob3obo\$31b2ob2o3bo20b2ob3o2b2o\$32b2o6bo3bo17bo\$42bo16\$56bo\$55bo5bo\$33b2o4b4o12bo6bo3b4o\$o3bo3bobobo18bo6bo4bo11b5ob2o2bo4bo\$30bo6bo24bo\$o3bo3bo3bo17bo28b2o3b2o4bo\$30b8o21b2o\$obobo3bobobo22b2o5b2o15b2o\$41b2ob3o12b2o\$4bo7bo29b5o13bo\$31b2o10b3o11b2obobo\$4bo3bobobo17b2ob2o22bo2b3o\$31b4o22bo\$32b2o24b6o\$60bob2o18\$30b4o4b2o\$obobo3bobobo17bo3bo2bo3b2ob2o\$30bo6bo4bo\$o7bo3bo18bo2bo2b3ob2o3bo\$34bo5b3o2bobo\$obobo3bo3bo18bo3bo9bo\$30bo\$4bo3bo3bo17bo4bo\$30b5o3b4o\$obobo3bobobo25bo3bo\$38bo\$39bo2bo!`

And here is a collection of all of the small, "unique" c/2 ships up to 50 cells:
`#C A collection of c/2 spaceships (of any period) up#C to 50 cells. Spaceships that consist entirely of#C components found in smaller ships are not included.#C #C Discovery credits:#C BG = Bill Gosper#C DB = David Bell#C DH = Dean Hickerson#C HH = Hartmut Holzwart#C JC = John Conway#C JS = Jason Summers#C MM - Matthias Merzenich#C MN = Mark Niemiec#C PS = Paul Schick#C TC = Tim Coe#C#C  9 JC        1970 "Lightweight spaceship (LWSS)"#C 11 JC        1970 "Middleweight spaceship (MWSS)"#C 13 JC        1970 "Heavyweight spaceship (HWSS)"#C 24 HH 21 Jul 1992 "Sidecar"#C    ??#C 28 HH 23 Feb 2001#C    TC 26 Oct 1995 "Coe ship"#C 30 DB 11 Jul 1992#C    ??#C    HH 24 May 2002#C 31 DB 13 Aug 1992 (using OWSS; MWSS support found by DB on 16 Aug 1992)#C    JS 29 Oct 2000#C    ??             "Overweight spaceship (OWSS)"#C    ??             "OWSS 2"#C 32 HH 21 Jul 1992#C    HH  5 Jan 1993 "Big A"#C    JS  8 Apr 2006#C 33 ??             "OWSS 3"#C    ??#C 34 HH 10 Jul 1992 "x66"#C 35 ??             "OWSS 4"#C 36 ??#C    MM  6 May 2018#C 37 ??#C 38 HH 17 Jul 1992#C    BG 21 Aug 1992#C    JS 29 Oct 2000#C 39 ??             "OWSS 5"#C    TC 26 Oct 1995#C    MM  6 May 2018#C    MN 19 Mar 1997#C    PS        1972#C    ??#C 40 HH 25 Jun 1993 (using OWSS; LWSS support found by HH on 29 Jun 1993)#C    ??#C 41 HH 22 Jul 1994#C    HH  6 Sep 2002#C    HH 26 Nov 2002#C    MM  6 May 2018#C 42 HH 10 Jul 1992 "Hivenudger"#C    MN 21 Oct 1997#C    HH 17 Dec 2004#C 43 ??             "OWSS 6"#C    ??#C    HH 12 Mar 2001#C    HH 17 Dec 2004#C    HH 21 Jul 1992#C    ??#C    HH 27 Dec 2002#C    MM  6 May 2018#C 44 MM  6 May 2018#C 45 ??#C    JS  4 Feb 2002#C    HH 12 Mar 2001#C    HH  6 Sep 2002#C 46 ??#C    ??#C    HH  2 Jul 1993#C    MM  6 May 2018#C    MM  6 May 2018#C 47 ??#C    JS  3 Oct 1999#C    HH 22 Jan 1993#C    HH 24 May 2002#C    MM  6 May 2018#C    MM  6 May 2018#C    MM  6 May 2018#C 48 HH 21 Jul 1992#C    ?? before 23 Sep 1995#C    ??#C    HH 12 Mar 2001#C    MM  6 May 2018#C    MM  6 May 2018#C 49 ?? before 23 Sep 1995#C    MM  6 May 2018#C    MM  6 May 2018#C 50 HH 17 Dec 2004#C    MM  6 May 2018x = 647, y = 138, rule = 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I also ran a complete search of all period-2 ships of width 28 with a minimum population of no more than 75 cells using gfind. It didn't find any new ships.

Edit: A couple of weeks ago I started maintaining the jslife-moving collection on GitHub. The c/12 diagonal folder still needs updating. Specifically, it still needs David Bell's new switch engine spaceships and anything based on the 2-engine Cordership. I was having trouble deciding how exactly to update this section. Should I just delete patterns made "obsolete" by the 2-engine ship, or should a keep everything and just add in the 2-engine-based technology?
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Is there any way to connect Sir Robin and the almost knightship?
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Gamedziner wrote:Is there any way to connect Sir Robin and the almost knightship?

This is second-hand information, but I believe Adam and/or Tom had the almost-knightship front end as one of the starting points of their searches. It just didn't happen that that front end was the first one that allowed a completed knightship.

That said, it's definitely not trivial to connect the (complete) almost knightship to Sir Robin or anything else. The almost knightship creates two extra ON cells after 6 ticks, and I don't think there's a known likely front end or side spark or whatever for a second knightship, that could be placed nearby to suppress those two ON cells and not cause any other problems.

The fact that Sir Robin was found is maybe some kind of evidence that (2,1)c/6 isn't too terribly improbable, and therefore that the odds are pretty good that there's something "out there" that could finish the almost knightship successfully and make a connection to (some variation on) Sir Robin. It's just that the smallest such solution is likely to be a good bit bigger than the almost knightship, so it may or may not be within reach of a determined search.

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c/15 asymmetric width 6 is negative after 4126417.594000 seconds, or 47.76 days.

You might be wondering why I ran this particular search, and why I let it for this long. Well, when I was combing through low-width high-period spaceship searches, I started with asymmetric ships under the assumption that it didn't matter what I searched first, as long as I searched all of them. I knew right off the bat that c/15 w6 would be negative, but I assumed it would only take a day or two due to the low width. By the time I realised I should stop the search, a week had already passed, and I didn't want to stop a search after an entire week (what if it finished in a few hours?)

Now time for w7 asymmetric.
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Billabob wrote:c/15 asymmetric width 6 is negative after 4126417.594000 seconds, or 47.76 days.

You might be wondering why I ran this particular search, and why I let it for this long. Well, when I was combing through low-width high-period spaceship searches, I started with asymmetric ships under the assumption that it didn't matter what I searched first, as long as I searched all of them. I knew right off the bat that c/15 w6 would be negative, but I assumed it would only take a day or two due to the low width. By the time I realised I should stop the search, a week had already passed, and I didn't want to stop a search after an entire week (what if it finished in a few hours?)

Now time for w7 asymmetric.

What was the longest partial?

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Billabob wrote:c/15 asymmetric width 6 is negative after 4126417.594000 seconds, or 47.76 days.

You should report what search program (and version number) you used. The information would be helpful in case we find any bugs.

Billabob wrote:started with asymmetric ships under the assumption that it didn't matter what I searched first, as long as I searched all of them.

I sometimes skip the asymmetric search, because a gutter search will find any asymmetric ship of the same search width (in those rules for which gutter searches work). Of course, a gutter search will take quite a bit longer. I'm sure a gutter search would still have several weeks to go. Maybe even another month!

Billabob wrote:Now time for w7 asymmetric.

I hope you're joking. I suspect that this would take over a year to complete. You would be better served looking for something like a period 8 or 9 ship. At this stage, every program has its problems. The most glaring is the inability of zfind v3.0 to save the search state. I suggest not using it for any long searches, as the risk of losing all of your progress is not worth the added speed. Hopefully someone will eventually fix that feature.
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77topaz wrote:
Billabob wrote:c/15 asymmetric width 6 is negative after 4126417.594000 seconds, or 47.76 days.

You might be wondering why I ran this particular search, and why I let it for this long. Well, when I was combing through low-width high-period spaceship searches, I started with asymmetric ships under the assumption that it didn't matter what I searched first, as long as I searched all of them. I knew right off the bat that c/15 w6 would be negative, but I assumed it would only take a day or two due to the low width. By the time I realised I should stop the search, a week had already passed, and I didn't want to stop a search after an entire week (what if it finished in a few hours?)

Now time for w7 asymmetric.

What was the longest partial?

I didn't see any especially long partials. The longest pattern I saw printed was 9 cells long, and it was just a reaction with a beehive and ash that cause the beehive to move 1 cell upwards, and the ash to disappear.

Sokwe wrote:You should report what search program (and version number) you used. The information would be helpful in case we find any bugs.

I'm using ntzfind 3.0 from this thread.

Sokwe wrote:I hope you're joking. I suspect that this would take over a year to complete. You would be better served looking for something like a period 8 or 9 ship. At this stage, every program has its problems. The most glaring is the inability of zfind v3.0 to save the search state. I suggest not using it for any long searches, as the risk of losing all of your progress is not worth the added speed. Hopefully someone will eventually fix that feature.

I was joking - I'm not touching c/15 again with a ten-foot pole. What other search programs have save features? I'd like to run some long 2c/13 and 5c/14 searches, and I'd rather not risk losing everything because of a power cut.

EDIT: 5c/14 width 8 odd-symmetric is negative after 2.4 days, here are the largest partials reported:
`x = 245, y = 33, rule = B3/S236bo\$6bo33bo5bo22bo5bo\$5bobo31bobo3bobo21bo5bo53bo26bo\$38b2ob2ob2ob2o19bobo3bobo21bo5bo24bo26bo\$4b2ob2o29b5ob5o49bo5bo23bobo24bobo28bo26bo\$4b2ob2o28b3ob2ob2ob3o18b2obobob2o20bobo3bobo22bobo24bobo28bo26bo24bo\$2bob2ob2obo25bobo2b2ob2o2bobo16bobobobobobo47b2obobob2o20b2ob2o26bobo24bobo23bo\$2bobo3bobo56bo9bo19bob2ob2obo19bo3bo3bo18b2ob3ob2o76bobo\$2b3o3b3o25bo3b2obob2o3bo15bo2bo5bo2bo18bob2ob2obo19b2o5b2o17bo2bo3bo2bo22b2ob2o22b2ob2o\$37b3ob5ob3o16bo3bo3bo3bo17b2obo3bob2o19bo5bo18bo9bo22b2ob2o22b2ob2o20b2ob2o\$4bo3bo30bo3bo3bo18bobob2ob2obobo17b2o7b2o18bobo3bobo18bob2ob2obo21b3o3b3o18bob2ob2obo18b2ob2o\$3bobobobo31bo3bo21b2ob2ob2ob2o18bo9bo17b2ob2ob2ob2o17bobo3bobo20bo2bo3bo2bo17bobo3bobo16bob2ob2obo\$3bobobobo29b2obobob2o21b3ob3o23bo3bo20b2obobobob2o15bob2o5b2obo17bob2o5b2obo16b3o3b3o16bobo3bobo\$3bobobobo27bo2b2o3b2o2bo45b2obobobobob2o43b4o3b4o19bo2b2ob2o2bo42b3o3b3o\$2b4ob4o26bo3bo3bo3bo19bobobobo19b3obo3bob3o16bo2bo3bo2bo19b2ob2o22bo2b2ob2o2bo19bo3bo\$bobobobobobo27b2ob3ob2o21b2o3b2o20bo9bo19b2obob2o19bo7bo19bobo2bobo2bobo17bobobobo19bo3bo\$3o2bobo2b3o26bo7bo18b2o2bo3bo2b2o19b2o3b2o19bo2b2ob2o2bo15b2o9b2o17bo3bo3bo3bo17bobobobo18bobobobo\$2o9b2o25b2o2b3o2b2o17bo4b3o4bo17bo3bobo3bo17b2obo3bob2o15b2o3bobo3b2o17bo3bo3bo3bo17bobobobo18bobobobo\$bo9bo24b2o5bo5b2o14bo2bob5obo2bo43bo2b2o3b2o2bo14b5o3b5o20bo5bo22bobo20bobobobo\$o2b7o2bo26bobobobobo17bo4bobobo4bo15b2obo5bob2o14bo13bo14bo2bo3bo2bo19bo9bo16bo3bobo3bo15b4ob4o\$4bo3bo86bobob2ob2obobo15bo2b3ob3o2bo14b2ob2o3b2ob2o19bobo3bobo19b2o3b2o16bobobobobobo\$b4o3b4o112b2o7b2o15bo3b2ob2o3bo19b3o3b3o15bo13bo11b3o2bobo2b3o\$b2o3bo3b2o111bobo7bobo14b3obo3bob3o18bo9bo14bo13bo11b2o9b2o\$b2o7b2o137b2o4bobo4b2o16bobobo3bobobo14b6ob6o14bo7bo\$183bobobobo44b2ob3ob2o\$183b2o3b2o20bo5bo16bo9bo\$181b3o5b3o18bo5bo16b2o7b2o\$180b2o2bobobo2b2o17b3ob3o16b2o7b2o\$208bo9bo17bobobo\$207bo2bo2bo2bo2bo12b2ob2o3b2ob2o\$206bo4b5o4bo14b3ob3o\$206b4obo3bob4o\$208b3o2bo2b3o!`
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I was wondering why short wide spaceships are rather neglected.

Here is a 2c/5 wave:

`x = 102, y = 11, rule = B3/S233\$15bo21bo21bo21bo\$14b3o19b3o19b3o19b3o\$12b2obob2o15b2obob2o15b2obob2o15b2obob2o\$3b3o4bo9bo4b3o4bo9bo4b3o4bo9bo4b3o4bo9bo4b3o\$3b3o3b2o9b2o3b3o3b2o9b2o3b3o3b2o9b2o3b3o3b2o9b2o3b3o\$3bobo2b2o3bo3bo3b2o2bobo2b2o3bo3bo3b2o2bobo2b2o3bo3bo3b2o2bobo2b2o3bo3bo3b2o2bobo\$8b2o11b2o7b2o11b2o7b2o11b2o7b2o11b2o!`

Is it known? I couldn't come up with a completion so far. Could someone give it a try?
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HartmutHolzwart wrote:I was wondering why short wide spaceships are rather neglected.

Here is a 2c/5 wave:

`code`

Is it known? I couldn't come up with a completion so far. Could someone give it a try?

A first try:
`x = 19, y = 127, rule = B3/S2316b2o\$10bo5b2o\$9b2o4bo\$8bobo4b2o\$7b2ob5o\$6b2o4bobob2o\$6bo3bobob4o\$3b3o3b2obo\$3b2o11b2o\$3b3o11b2o\$18bo2\$5b2o\$4b3o\$3b2o2\$2bo\$2bo2bo\$bo\$3o\$bo\$2bo2bo\$2bo2\$3b2o\$4b3o\$5b2o3\$3b3o\$3b2o\$3b3o3\$5b2o\$4b3o\$3b2o2\$2bo\$2bo2bo\$bo\$3o\$bo\$2bo2bo\$2bo2\$3b2o\$4b3o\$5b2o3\$3b3o\$3b2o\$3b3o3\$5b2o\$4b3o\$3b2o2\$2bo\$2bo2bo\$bo\$3o\$bo\$2bo2bo\$2bo2\$3b2o\$4b3o\$5b2o3\$3b3o\$3b2o\$3b3o3\$5b2o\$4b3o\$3b2o2\$2bo\$2bo2bo\$bo\$3o\$bo\$2bo2bo\$2bo2\$3b2o\$4b3o\$5b2o3\$3b3o\$3b2o\$3b3o3\$5b2o\$4b3o\$3b2o2\$2bo\$2bo2bo\$bo\$3o\$bo\$2bo2bo\$2bo2\$3b2o\$4b3o\$5b2o2\$18bo\$3b3o11b2o\$3b2o11b2o\$3b3o3b2obo\$6bo3bobob4o\$6b2o4bobob2o\$7b2ob5o\$8bobo4b2o\$9b2o4bo\$10bo5b2o\$16b2o!`
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first completion of the 2c/5 wave:

`x = 146, y = 69, rule = B3/S237\$35bo21bo21bo21bo\$8bo4b3o18b3o19b3o19b3o19b3o18b3o4bo\$7bobo3bobo16b2obob2o15b2obob2o15b2obob2o15b2obob2o16bobo3bobo\$6b2ob2o2bo2bo6b3o4bo9bo4b3o4bo9bo4b3o4bo9bo4b3o4bo9bo4b3o6bo2bo2b2ob2o\$6bo2bo3bo5bo3b3o3b2o9b2o3b3o3b2o9b2o3b3o3b2o9b2o3b3o3b2o9b2o3b3o3bo5bo3bo2bo\$4b2ob2o4bo2bo2bo3bobo2b2o3bo3bo3b2o2bobo2b2o3bo3bo3b2o2bobo2b2o3bo3bo3b2o2bobo2b2o3bo3bo3b2o2bobo3bo2bo2bo4b2ob2o\$5b2o7bobo2bo8b2o11b2o7b2o11b2o7b2o11b2o7b2o11b2o8bo2bobo7b2o\$6b2o7b2o3bobo91bobo3b2o7b2o\$7bo9b2obo95bob2o9bo\$4b2o5bo2bo4bo97bo4bo2bo5b2o\$5b3o6bo4bo97bo4bo6b3o\$8bobo7b3o95b3o7bobo\$16bo103bo\$16bo2bo97bo2bo\$16bo103bo\$17bobo97bobo2\$17bobo97bobo\$16b2ob2o95b2ob2o\$16b2o101b2o\$18bo99bo\$16bo103bo\$15b2o103b2o\$14b2ob2o99b2ob2o\$14b2o2b2o97b2o2b2o\$15bo3bo97bo3bo\$15bob2o99b2obo\$14b2obo101bob2o\$17bob2o95b2obo\$14b2obobo97bobob2o\$14b2o2b2o97b2o2b2o\$7b3o3bo3bobo97bobo3bo3b3o\$6bo3bobobo107bobobo3bo\$6b2o6bo2bo101bo2bo6b2o\$6bo3bobo2bobo101bobo2bobo3bo\$7b2o8bo101bo8b2o\$4b3obo5bo4b3o93b3o4bo5bob3o\$4b2ob2o6bo105bo6b2ob2o\$5bob2o6bo4bo95bo4bo6b2obo\$7b2o5bobo103bobo5b2o\$4bo3bo8bo101bo8bo3bo\$7bo7b2o103b2o7bo!`

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