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## Oscillator Discussion Thread

For discussion of specific patterns or specific families of patterns, both newly-discovered and well-known.

### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Yes! Name it um what about um Pi fountain? Pi remaker? Pi chef (eaters)?
Also, a p690 osc
x = 26, y = 33, rule = B3/S2311b2o$9bo4bo$8bo6bo$7bo8bo$7bo8bo$7bo8bo$8bo6bo$9bo4bo$11b2o2$13bo$13bo5$13bo$13bo3$14bo$3b2o8bobo$3b2o7b2ob2o5bob2o$22b2obo2$2b2o$3bo$3o$o13bo$13bobobob2o$12bob2ob2obo$12bo$11b2o!
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x = 17, y = 10, rule = B3/S23b2ob2obo5b2o$11b4obo$2bob3o2bo2b3o$bo3b2o4b2o$o2bo2bob2o3b4o$bob2obo5bo2b2o$2b2o4bobo2b3o$bo3b5ob2obobo$2bo5bob2o$4bob2o2bobobo! (Check gen 2) Saka Posts: 2916 Joined: June 19th, 2015, 8:50 pm Location: In the kingdom of Sultan Hamengkubuwono X ### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread How about Phircle? (The "phi" part references the phi spark, and the "-ircle" part references a circle, or 2π radians; the pi heptomino appears twice in the oscillator's period.) x = 81, y = 96, rule = LifeHistory58.2A$58.2A3$59.2A17.2A$59.2A17.2A3$79.2A$79.2A2$57.A$56.A$56.3A4$27.A$27.A.A$27.2A21$3.2A$3.2A2.2A$7.2A18$7.2A$7.2A2.2A$11.2A11$2A$2A2.2A$4.2A18$4.2A$4.2A2.2A$8.2A!
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### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

I've written it up as Tanner's p46 for now -- since Tanner discovered it, I think he should have the honor of naming it. The wiki article can be moved as appropriate.
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### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Apple Bottom wrote:I've written it up as Tanner's p46 for now -- since Tanner discovered it, I think he should have the honor of naming it. The wiki article can be moved as appropriate.

Horray! The second pattern discovered this year that gets it's own wiki page!
We need more patterns!! Kazyan, how was this found?
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x = 17, y = 10, rule = B3/S23b2ob2obo5b2o$11b4obo$2bob3o2bo2b3o$bo3b2o4b2o$o2bo2bob2o3b4o$bob2obo5bo2b2o$2b2o4bobo2b3o$bo3b5ob2obobo$2bo5bob2o$4bob2o2bobobo! (Check gen 2) Saka Posts: 2916 Joined: June 19th, 2015, 8:50 pm Location: In the kingdom of Sultan Hamengkubuwono X ### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread Apple Bottom wrote:I've written it up as Tanner's p46 for now -- since Tanner discovered it, I think he should have the honor of naming it. The wiki article can be moved as appropriate. Keep it as Tanner's p46; that seems to be the convention for these smallish but unusual oscillators (and, quite an honor, personally). If it becomes useful enough in the next few days that my name will be all over p46 technology where it doesn't need to be, we'll rename it. Tanner Jacobi Kazyan Posts: 818 Joined: February 6th, 2014, 11:02 pm ### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread Kazyan wrote:Keep it as Tanner's p46; that seems to be the convention for these smallish but unusual oscillators (and, quite an honor, personally). If it becomes useful enough in the next few days that my name will be all over p46 technology where it doesn't need to be, we'll rename it. Excellent. Yes, between Rich's and Achim's and Coe's and Silver's and Gabriel's and Merzenich's et al. oscillators, "Tanner's p46" is a good fit. (FWIW, personally I think there's no reason to rename it if it starts seeing wider use either; credit where credit is due, after all.) I've added RLE files to the article -- didn't want to do so until the name was decided, since RLE files can't be renamed and I wanted to avoid the hassles of deleting and reuploading them after a name change. If you speak, your speech must be better than your silence would have been. — Arabian proverb Catagolue: Apple Bottom • Life Wiki: Apple Bottom • Twitter: @_AppleBottom_ Proud member of the Pattern Raiders! Apple Bottom Posts: 1024 Joined: July 27th, 2015, 2:06 pm ### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread This version with an eater has a slightly smaller bounding box: x = 25, y = 13, rule = B3/S2314bo$3b2o7b2ob2o$3b2o7b2ob2o$21b2o$21bobo$2b2o19bo$3bo19b2o$3o$o13bo$13bobobob2o$12bob2ob2obo$12bo$11b2o! gmc_nxtman Posts: 1147 Joined: May 26th, 2015, 7:20 pm ### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread 42-cell variant using a block to suppress the spark: x = 26, y = 24, rule = B3/S2314b2o$14b2o11$3b2o9bo$3b2o8b3o6bob2o$13bobo6b2obo2$2b2o$3bo$3o$o13bo$13bobobob2o$12bob2ob2obo$12bo$11b2o! Not really that interesting, honestly. x₁=ηx V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη) K=(Λu²)/2 Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt) $$x_1=\eta x$$ $$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$ $$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$ $$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$ http://conwaylife.com/wiki/A_for_all Aidan F. Pierce A for awesome Posts: 1809 Joined: September 13th, 2014, 5:36 pm Location: 0x-1 ### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread Oh god, this generates more possibilities! (Since I'm the type of type of guy who has to look at every possibility, you can imagine how my sanity must feel.) EDIT: Changing the other snake to an eater as well results in a slightly more tucked-in form: x = 25, y = 13, rule = B3/S2314bo$3b2o7b2ob2o$3b2o7b2ob2o$21b2o$21bobo$2b2o19bo$3bo19b2o$3o16b2o$o13bo4bo$13bobobobo$12bob2ob2o$12bo$11b2o! I Like My Heisenburps! (and others) Extrementhusiast Posts: 1758 Joined: June 16th, 2009, 11:24 pm Location: USA ### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread I believe it's possible that a gun might exist along these lines, with one osc's phi spark replacing the right-hand catalyst of the other: x = 25, y = 42, rule = B3/S2317b2o$17bo$15bobo$11b2o2b2o$11b2o7$22bo$10b3o7b3o$9bo2bo6bo$8bo9bobo$9bo2bo6b2o$10b3o$19b2o$20bo$19bo$19b2o4$9b3o$10bo3$10b6ob2o$9b2obob2ob2o$14bo2b2ob2o$11b2obo3b2obo$2b2o8bo2b2ob3o$bobo8b2ob2o2b3o$bo19b2o$2o19bo$22b3o$10bo13bo$4b2obobobo$4bob2ob2obo$12bo$12b2o! Gencols did not give me anything -- but gencols historically hasn't played nice with me (and/or I just haven't figured out how to use it) so I'm not sure I can trust my result. Could anyone else check? As a side note, there are also plenty of non-gun oscillators following this setup, including the following. x = 25, y = 41, rule = B3/S2318b2o$18bo$16bobo$12b2o2b2o$12b2o3$11b3o$10bo2bo$10b2o2b2o$10bo2bobo$13bobo7bo$21b3o$7bo3bo2bo5bo$7b2o2bo7bobo$7bo3bo2bo5b2o2$10bo4bo4b2o$9bo5bo5bo$10bo9bo$14bo5b2o$13bo8$20b2o$11bo8b2o$2b2o6b2o$bobo5bo$bo8b2o9b2o$2o9bo9bo$22b3o$10bo13bo$4b2obobobo$4bob2ob2obo$12bo$12b2o10$35b2o$11b2o22bo$12bo20bobo$12bob2ob2obo8b2o2b2o$13bobobob2o8b2o$o13bo$3o$3bo$2b2o$9b3o5b2o$9bo3bobo4bo$3b2o2b2ob2o9bo18bo$3b2o2bo30b3o$7bobo3b3o14b2ob2o2bo$8b3o6bobo11bobo2bobo$18bo13bo4b2o$14bo$13b3o21b2o$38bo$37bo$37b2o$3b2o$4bo$3bo$3b2o21b3o$27bo$3b2o4bo13bo$3bobo2bobo11bobo6b3o$4bo2b2ob2o14b3o3bobo$b3o30bo2b2o$bo18bo9b2ob2o2b2o$21bo4bobo3bo$23b2o5b3o$38b2o$38bo$39b3o$27bo13bo$11b2o8b2obobobo$7b2o2b2o8bob2ob2obo$6bobo20bo$6bo22b2o$5b2o! Last edited by M. I. Wright on October 21st, 2017, 9:03 pm, edited 2 times in total. gamer54657 wrote:God save us all. God save humanity. hgkhjfgh nutshelltlifeDiscord 'Conwaylife Lounge' M. I. Wright Posts: 371 Joined: June 13th, 2015, 12:04 pm ### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread Here's a gun: x=35, y=384b2o$5bo$5bobo$6b2o2b2o$10b2o7$o$3o7b2o$3bo6bobo$2bobo7bo$2b2o6bobo$10b2o$2b2o$2bo$3b3o$5bo$8b2o$9bo$6b3o14b3o$6bo15bo3bo$21bo5bo$13b2o6bo5bo$13b2o6b3ob3o$31b2o$31bobo$12b2o19bo$13bo19b2o$10b3o16b2o$10bo13bo4bo$23bobobobo$22bob2ob2o$22bo$21b2o!

Edit: slightly smaller starting cell count. 92P46
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### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

hkoenig wrote:Here's a gun:

x=35, y=384b2o$5bo$5bobo$6b2o2b2o$10b2o7$o$3o7b2o$3bo6b2o$2bobo7bo$2b2o6b2o$10b2o$2b2o$2bo$3b3o$5bo$8b2o$9bo$6b3o15bo$6bo16b3o$22b2ob2o$13b2o6b2o3b2o$13b2o7b2ob2o$31b2o$31bobo$12b2o19bo$13bo19b2o$10b3o16b2o$10bo13bo4bo$23bobobobo$22bob2ob2o$22bo$21b2o! Nice! Looks like it won't be possible to improve on the old 49*16 two-twin-bees gun, though, at least if we go by bounding box as usual... unless, just possibly, there's a Bellman catalyst or some such that can convert a single oscillator's phi spark into a glider. EDIT: Sneaking in a celebratory HWSS gun here based on Kazyan's discovery above and Sokwe's discovery below, because it's not really interesting enough to get its own post: Code: Select all x = 114, y = 85, rule = LifeHistory91.2A$91.A$85.2A.2A.A$84.A.A.A.A$65.2A17.A3.BA3.3B7.A$65.A17.2A2.4B.5B4.3A$59.2A.2A.A13.2A6.10B3.A$58.A.A.A.A15.A7.B3A5B3.2A$58.A3.BA3.3B7.A2.A.AB2.3BA12B$57.2A2.4B.5B4.3A3.2AB.4B3A8B$53.2A6.10B3.A8.16B2A$54.A7.9B3.2A7.16B2A$54.A.2A2.A5BA9B7.15B.B$55.A2B.ABA3BAB2A5B10.14B9.A$44.2A11.4BA3BA3BA3B2A11.10B9.3A$45.A11.5BABA4BA3B2A12.8B9.A$45.A.AB8.2A4BA4B2A2B.B14.6B10.2A$46.2AB.2A6.BA7BA4B15.6B8.5B2.A$48.BA2BA7.BA3BA4B18.5A7.4B4.3A$48.BA2B9.A3BA3B19.B3AB7.5B6.A$48.BA2BAB8.6B21.BAB7.7B4.2A$45.5BAB2A7.B3A2B22.4B3.B.8B.2B$44.9BAB5.B.5B22.6B2A13B2A$44.3B3A3B3A4.7B22.8BA11BA.A$44.6BA2BA3B3.6B22.6BA2BA6B2A3B.A$27.2A11.A4.2B2AB2A14B21.7BABA7BABAB3.3A$27.A12.3A3.3B2AB2A12B20.4B4.10B3A2B4.A$19.A.2A.2A.A15.A.8BA2BA9B19.4B8.9BA3B$19.2A.A.A.A15.A.A6B2A4B2A7BA17.4B10.12B$4.2A18.BA3.3B7.A2.2A9BA2BA3B4.3BA15.4B12.8B2AB$5.A17.4B.5B4.3A5.2B.8B.B7.3AB13.ABAB14.7B2A$5.A.AB6.2A6.6B3AB3.A5.2A4.7B11.4B11.B2AB15.6B$6.2AB.2A4.A7.4BA3BA3.2A4.A6.5B13.4B9.3BA18.4B$8.2B2AB3.A.AB2.5B2A3BA5B5.3A4.4B14.4B7.4B18.B2A2B$8.4B5.2AB.5BAB2A6B9.A2.5B16.4B5.4B20.2A.B2A$8.6B5.8BA7B2A11.2A20.4B3.4B24.BA.A$5.2A7B5.6BAB2ABA4B2A12.A21.9B28.A$4.3BA7B4.5B3ABAB2A2B.B10.3A23.7B29.2A$4.B3A8B4.5BA3BABA2B12.A25.6B$4.3B2A8B5.3B3ABA2B41.6B$A4.B2A12B3.5B2AB.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.A.B.B.B.B.B.3B.29B2A$3A3.2A2BA7BA43BA3BA40BA4BA$3.A.3B2A6BAB2A4BABA13B5A22BA17B6A22BA$2.A.A11BABA6BA13BA4BA17BA4BA16BA5BA16BA5BA$2.2A13BA2B4.BA18BA18B5A22BA17B6A$5.2B.8B.B6.15BA3BA40BA4BA22B$2.2A4.7B12.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.A.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.7B.7B2A22B$2.A6.5B56.9B$3.A6.4B28.A26.9B$2.2A4.5B29.3A23.4B.5B$8.2A35.A21.4B4.4B26.A$9.A34.2A20.4B6.4B23.3A$6.3A32.A2.5B16.4B8.4B21.A$6.A32.3A4.4B14.2A2B10.4B20.2A$38.A6.5B13.2B2A12.2B2A16.5B2.A$38.2A4.7B11.2BAB14.2A2B14.4B4.3A$41.2B.8B.A7.4B16.BA2B13.5B6.A$38.2A7B3AB3A2B4.4B18.4B11.7B4.2A$38.A.A6B6A10B20.4B7.B.8B.2B$39.A.6BAB2AB3A7B22.4B4.2BA13B2A$36.3A3.3B4A4B2A7B23.8BABA11BA.A$36.A4.2B2ABAB2A2BA3B.5B24.7B3A6B2A3B.A$40.8B2A3B5.4B24.7BA7BA2BAB3.3A$40.2B2AB3AB2AB6.BA3B23.16BAB2AB4.A$40.3ABA3BA2B7.3A2B23.4B5.9BA3B$41.7BAB7.B3A2B22.5B6.9BA2B$44.6B8.2B3AB21.2BABA7.8B2AB$44.4B9.2BA3BAB20.B2ABAB7.7B2A$44.2B2AB7.3BA3BA2B18.A3B2A8.6B$42.2AB.2A6.5B3ABA4B15.BA6B9.4B$41.A.AB8.5B2A2BA2B2AB.B12.6BA3B7.B2A2B$41.A11.5B2A3B3A3B2A9.2BABA2B2A5B6.2A.B2A$40.2A11.6BA3B2A4B2A7.B.BA2B2A2BA6B8.BA.A$51.2AB.15B7.2A3BA2BA2BA6B11.A$50.A.AB2.5B3A8B5.2A5B2A2BA6B11.2A$50.A7.4BABA2B3.2A6.5BABA7B.B2A$49.2A6.5BA4B3.A5.7B3A6B2.BA.A$53.2A2.4B.B3AB4.3A2.2A3.2B2A5B7.A$54.A3.BA3.3B7.A3.A3.10B6.2A$54.A.A.A.A13.3A4.2A3B.4B2.2A$55.2A.2A.A9.3A8.BAB3.AB3.A$61.A9.A2.A12.A.A.A.A$61.2A10.2A11.A.2A.2A$86.A$85.2A!#C [[ THUMBNAIL THUMBSIZE 2 GPS 10 ZOOM 5.5 AUTOSTART ]] dvgrn Moderator Posts: 5634 Joined: May 17th, 2009, 11:00 pm Location: Madison, WI ### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread hkoenig wrote:Here's a gun: x=35, y=384b2o$5bo$5bobo$6b2o2b2o$10b2o7$o$3o7b2o$3bo6bobo$2bobo7bo$2b2o6bobo$10b2o$2b2o$2bo$3b3o$5bo$8b2o$9bo$6b3o14b3o$6bo15bo3bo$21bo5bo$13b2o6bo5bo$13b2o6b3ob3o$31b2o$31bobo$12b2o19bo$13bo19b2o$10b3o16b2o$10bo13bo4bo$23bobobobo$22bob2ob2o$22bo$21b2o!

Edit: slightly smaller starting cell count. 92P46

Very nice! It yields these three other gun by turning around one or both oscillators, but that's a trivial observation on my behalf:
x = 137, y = 38, rule = B3/S2354b2o$55bo$6bo48bobo48bo$6b3o47b2o2b2o44b3o$9bo50b2o47bo$8b2o98b2o$2b2o98b2o$3bo99bo$2bo99bo$2b2o98b2o$10b2o98b2o$2b2o6bobo37bo51b2o6bobo$2bobo7bo37b3o7b2o40bobo7bo$3bo6bobo40bo6bobo40bo6bobo$3o7b2o40bobo7bo37b3o7b2o$o51b2o6bobo37bo$60b2o$52b2o$52bo$53bo$52b2o$58b2o$10b2o47bo50b2o$6b2o2b2o11b3o30b3o12b3o32b2o2b2o9b3o$5bobo14bo3bo29bo13bo3bo30bobo12bo3bo$5bo15bo5bo41bo5bo29bo13bo5bo$4b2o7b2o6bo5bo41bo5bo6b2o20b2o13bo5bo6b2o$13b2o6b3ob3o41b3ob3o6b2o35b3ob3o6b2o$31b2o31b2o48b2o$31bobo29bobo47bobo$12b2o19bo29bo19b2o28bo19b2o$13bo19b2o27b2o19bo28b2o19bo$10b3o71b3o47b3o$10bo13bo47bo13bo35bo13bo$23bobobob2o35b2obobobo42b2obobobo$22bob2ob2obo35bob2ob2obo41bob2ob2obo$22bo51bo49bo$21b2o51b2o48b2o! This post was brought to you by the letter D, for dishes that Andrew J. Wade won't do. (Also Daniel, which happens to be me.) Current rule interest: B2ce3-ir4a5y/S2-c3-y drc Posts: 1664 Joined: December 3rd, 2015, 4:11 pm Location: creating useless things in OCA ### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread dvgrn wrote:Nice! Looks like it won't be possible to improve on the old 49*16 two-twin-bees gun, though, at least if we go by bounding box as usual... unless, just possibly, there's a Bellman catalyst or some such that can convert a single oscillator's phi spark into a glider. I'd bet more on a lucky p4/6/8 sparker interacting in just the right way to make a p92/138/184. Speaking of p138, maybe try rubbing Gabriel's p138 up on it. Tanner Jacobi Kazyan Posts: 818 Joined: February 6th, 2014, 11:02 pm ### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread Kazyan wrote:I'd bet more on a lucky p4/6/8 sparker interacting in just the right way to make a p92/138/184. Speaking of p138, maybe try rubbing Gabriel's p138 up on it. I tried a non-exhaustive manual search for something p4 or p6 earlier, but the only thing that came up was a p6 placement that released a glider on one cycle but blew up the next. It's possible there's something that works among the arrangements that I didn't try, or that there's a p8 or 138 placement that would work, or even a transparent catalysis -- I looked preliminarily at that option earlier and didn't find anything, but my manual search was shallow and nowhere near exhaustive. x₁=ηx V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη) K=(Λu²)/2 Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt) $$x_1=\eta x$$ $$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$ $$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$ $$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$ http://conwaylife.com/wiki/A_for_all Aidan F. Pierce A for awesome Posts: 1809 Joined: September 13th, 2014, 5:36 pm Location: 0x-1 ### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread Here's another gun: x = 40, y = 29, rule = B3/S236bo$6b3o$9bo$8b2o$2b2o$3bo$2bo$2b2o2$2b2o7bobo2bobo$2bobo6bo2bo3bo$3bo5b2o3bobobo$3o7b3obo$o6b2o5b2o8b3o$7b2o4b2o8bo3bo$7b2o3bo9bo5bo$7b2obobo8bo3bo3bo$7b2obobo8bo7bo5b2o$21bobo3bobo5b2o$17b2o3b2o3b2o$10b2o4bobo$6b2o2b2o4bo19b2o$5bobo7b2o19bo$5bo31b3o$4b2o19bo13bo$19b2obobobo$19bob2ob2obo$27bo$27b2o!
-Matthias Merzenich
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Astounding!

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### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Sokwe wrote:Here's another gun:
WOWOWOW

I thought it was just another glider gun!!
LIFE JUST GOT REAL
Do we need another wiki page? Matthias' Torpedo Launcher?
Also, is this the FIRST GLIDERLESS MWSS GUN??
If you're the person that uploaded to Sakagolue illegally, please PM me.
x = 17, y = 10, rule = B3/S23b2ob2obo5b2o$11b4obo$2bob3o2bo2b3o$bo3b2o4b2o$o2bo2bob2o3b4o$bob2obo5bo2b2o$2b2o4bobo2b3o$bo3b5ob2obobo$2bo5bob2o$4bob2o2bobobo! (Check gen 2) Saka Posts: 2916 Joined: June 19th, 2015, 8:50 pm Location: In the kingdom of Sultan Hamengkubuwono X ### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread Saka wrote:is this the FIRST GLIDERLESS MWSS GUN?? No: x = 44, y = 51, rule = B3/S2317b2o6b2o$17b2o6b2o7$b2o38b2o$obo38bobo$obob2o32b2obobo$bobobo32bobobo$3bo36bo$bo2bo13b2o4b2o13bo2bo$4bo12bobo4bobo12bo$o3bo12bo8bo12bo3bo$o3bo12bobo4bobo12bo3bo$4bo13b2o4b2o13bo$bo2bo34bo2bo$3bo36bo$bobobo32bobobo$obob2o32b2obobo$obo38bobo$b2o25bo12b2o$26b2o2bobo$28bo2bobo$30b2o$15b2o$16bo$13b3o$13bo8bo4bo6b2o$18b2o2bo3bobo5bobo$18bo7bobo7bo$19bo3bo3b2o7b2o$23bo5$31b5o$30bo4bo$35bo$30bo3bo$32bo$23bob2o$21b3ob2o$20bo$21b3ob2o$23bobo$23bobo$24bo! Saka wrote:Do we need another wiki page? None of the guns should get their own pages. They should instead be included in the gallery on the page for the oscillator. -Matthias Merzenich Sokwe Moderator Posts: 1465 Joined: July 9th, 2009, 2:44 pm ### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread Dang this is a good new osc ^ What ever up there likely useless Cclee Posts: 56 Joined: October 5th, 2017, 9:51 pm Location: de internet ### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread Wow... Congrats for Kazyan and Sokwe! Isn't this a new record for the smallest *WSS gun? Best wishes to you, Scorbie Scorbie Posts: 1379 Joined: December 7th, 2013, 1:05 am ### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread Sokwe wrote:Here's another gun: x = 40, y = 29, rule = B3/S236bo$6b3o$9bo$8b2o$2b2o$3bo$2bo$2b2o2$2b2o7bobo2bobo$2bobo6bo2bo3bo$3bo5b2o3bobobo$3o7b3obo$o6b2o5b2o8b3o$7b2o4b2o8bo3bo$7b2o3bo9bo5bo$7b2obobo8bo3bo3bo$7b2obobo8bo7bo5b2o$21bobo3bobo5b2o$17b2o3b2o3b2o$10b2o4bobo$6b2o2b2o4bo19b2o$5bobo7b2o19bo$5bo31b3o$4b2o19bo13bo$19b2obobobo$19bob2ob2obo$27bo$27b2o!

Compatible rules are: B3/S23 - B34e8/S234c6i8. Sorry to cut&paste the full pattern, but this belongs to my favourite patterns from now! Even new banners, displays are possible with smaller elements using the above component.

Congrats to Sokwe et al, jolly astounding!

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### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Nice work Kazyan and Sokwe!

@Kazyan this is the second time recently (out of many more times), that a discovery of yours has sparked a lot of discussion and discoveries!

I spent a long time applying many tricks to try and reduce the synthesis from 19 gliders without success. The trick that got the closest was making the carrier/snake + junk in 3 gliders, and using the junk + 2 gliders to make a pi.This is one of the close calls (the reaction was found with gencols):

x = 44, y = 14, rule = B3/S2340bo$38bobo$o38b2o$3o11bo$3bo8bobo26b3o$2b2o9b2o28bo$42bo$22b2o$3b2o17bo2bo$3b2o9b2o8b2o11b2o$13bobo3bo16bobo$15bo2bobo17bo$18bobo$19bo! A general method I tried that someone else might be able to get to work, is to use one glider to collide with the junk and create a spark which reacts with another glider to create the pi in the right spot: x = 72, y = 35, rule = B3/S2311b2o38b2o$12bo39bo$12bob2ob2obo31bob2ob2obo$13bobobob2o32bobobob2o$o13bo25bo13bo$3o37b3o$3bo39bo$2b2o38b2o$13bo$14b2o6b2obo$3b2o8b2o7bob2o17b2o$3b2o38b2o$15bo$55b2o2b2o$56b2obobo$55bo3bo17$70bo$69b2o$69bobo! The block can also be replaced with a few different 2G constellations for no extra cost. Can anyone else reduce the synthesis? Goldtiger997 Posts: 517 Joined: June 21st, 2016, 8:00 am Location: 11.329903°N 142.199305°E ### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread Smallest phase for gun (not including ships produced) x = 40, y = 29, rule = B3/S236bo$6b3o$9bo$8b2o$2b2o$3bo$2bo$2b2o$10b2o$2b2o6bobo$2bobo7bo$3bo6bobo$3o7b2o$o4$35b2o$35b2o$17b2o7b2o$10b2o4bobo6b2o$6b2o2b2o4bo9b2o8b2o$5bobo7b2o19bo$5bo31b3o$4b2o19bo13bo$19b2obobobo$19bob2ob2obo$27bo$27b2o!

EDIT: The chain of ships can act as a wick, destroying the gun and leaving tons of periodic ash:
x = 2235, y = 29, rule = B3/S236bo$6b3o$9bo$8b2o$2b2o$3bo$2bo$2b2o$64b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o$2b2o13bo25b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o$2bobo11bob2o4b3o13b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o24b3o$3bo3b3o8b2o5bo14b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o$3o3bo2bo7b3o21b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o$o25b4o$5bo2bo16b3obo$29bobo$7bo16bo3bo2bo$6bo17b2o2bob2o3b2o$35b2o$17b2o7bo2bo$10b2o4bobo$6b2o2b2o4bo10b2obobo3b2o$5bobo7b2o12b3o4bo$5bo24bo6b3o$4b2o19bo13bo$19b2obobobo$19bob2ob2obo$27bo$27b2o!
x = 81, y = 96, rule = LifeHistory58.2A$58.2A3$59.2A17.2A$59.2A17.2A3$79.2A$79.2A2$57.A$56.A$56.3A4$27.A$27.A.A$27.2A21$3.2A$3.2A2.2A$7.2A18$7.2A$7.2A2.2A$11.2A11$2A$2A2.2A$4.2A18$4.2A$4.2A2.2A\$8.2A!
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### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Sokwe wrote:
Saka wrote:is this the FIRST GLIDERLESS MWSS GUN??

No:

...but is it the smallest such gun?
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