codeholic wrote: you can build glider salvo seeds, that will destroy the tape-reading spaceships further down.
HartmutHolzwart wrote: it might be more efficient to use upstream *WSS convoys as the central spine and build them with the downstream helix
x = 23, y = 298, rule = B3/S23
11bo$9b2o$10b2o22$5b3o$5bo2bo$5bo$5bo$6bobo2$bo$3o$ob2o$b3o$b2o44$bo$
2b2o$b2o29$13bo$12b3o$11b2obo$11b3o$12b2o5$14b3o$14bo2bo$14bo$14bo$15b
obo57$17bo$17bobo$17b2o13$13b3o$13bo2bo$13bo$13bo3bo$13bo$14bobo2$10bo
$9b3o$9bob2o$10b3o$10b3o$10b3o$10b2o50$20bobo$20b2o$21bo25$12b3o$11bo
2bo$14bo$14bo$11bobo3$11b3o$11bo2bo$11bo$11bo3bo$11bo3bo$11bo$12bobo!
x = 21, y = 64, rule = B3/S23
2bo$obo$b2o25$8b3o$8bo2bo$8bo$8bo3bo$8bo3bo$8bo$9bobo5$17bo$16b3o$16bo
b2o$17b3o$17b3o$17b2o15$18bo$17b3o$17bob2o$18b3o$18b3o$18b2o!
x = 36, y = 58, rule = B3/S23
6$14b2o$14b3o$5bobo5bob2o$8bo4b3o$4bo3bo5bo$4bo3bo$8bo$5bo2bo$6b3o28$
22b2o$22bobo$22bo!
x = 21, y = 61, rule = B3/S23
bo$o$3o8$18bo$16bo3bo$15bo$15bo4bo$15b5o44$13b3o$13bo$14bo!
x = 92, y = 92, rule = B3/S23
12$26bo$25bo$25b3o11$26b3o6b4o$26bo8bo3bo$27bo7bo$36bo2bo50$86b3o$86bo
$87bo!
x = 14, y = 25, rule = B3/S23
o$o$o$2b3o$2bo$3bo17$11b2o$11bobo$11bo!
x = 117, y = 514, rule = B3/S23
bo$bo$bo37$3o37$bo$bo$bo37$3o37$bo$bo$bo$3b3o$3bo$4bo$29b2o$29b2o15$
12b2o$12bobo$12bo19$23b3o$22bo2bo$25bo$21bo3bo$21bo3bo5bo$25bo4b3o$22b
obo5bob2o$31b3o$31b3o$31b2o10$112b2o$112b2o3$94b2o$93b2o$95bo2$25b3o$
24bo2bo$27bo$27bo$24bobo3$18b3o$17bo2bo$20bo$20bo$17bobo7$23b3o$22bo2b
o$25bo$21bo3bo$21bo3bo$25bo$22bobo11$24b3o$23bo2bo$26bo$22bo3bo$26bo$
23bobo3$107bo$106b3o$105b2obo$105b3o$105b3o$105b3o5b3o$106b2o4bo2bo$
115bo$111bo3bo$115bo$112bobo17$109bo$108b3o$107b2obo$107b3o$108b2o3$
102bo$101b3o$100b2obo$100b3o$101b2o7$107bo$106b3o$105b2obo$105b3o$105b
3o$105b3o$106b2o4$24bo$23b3o$23bob2o$24b3o$24b3o$24b3o3b3o$24b2o4bo2bo
$30bo77bo$30bo3bo72b3o$30bo75b2obo$31bobo72b3o$106b3o$107b2o15$26bo$
25b3o$25bob2o$26b3o$26b2o3$19bo$18b3o$18bob2o$19b3o$19b2o7$24bo$23b3o$
23bob2o$24b3o$24b3o$24b3o$24b2o11$25bo$24b3o$24bob2o$25b3o$25b3o$25b2o
4$106b3o$105bo2bo$108bo$104bo3bo$104bo3bo5bo$108bo4b3o$105bobo5bob2o$
114b3o$114b3o$114b2o18$108b3o$107bo2bo$110bo$110bo$107bobo3$101b3o$
100bo2bo$103bo$103bo$100bobo7$106b3o$105bo2bo$108bo$104bo3bo$104bo3bo$
108bo$105bobo4$23b3o$23bo2bo$23bo$23bo3bo$23bo3bo3bo$23bo6b3o$24bobo2b
2obo$29b3o75b3o$29b3o74bo2bo$30b2o77bo$105bo3bo$109bo$106bobo15$25b3o$
25bo2bo$25bo$25bo$26bobo3$18b3o$18bo2bo$18bo$18bo$19bobo7$23b3o$23bo2b
o$23bo$23bo3bo$23bo3bo$23bo$24bobo11$24b3o$24bo2bo$24bo$24bo3bo$24bo$
25bobo!
x = 21, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
4b6o$4bo5bo$4bo$5bo4bo$7b2o2$16b4o$15b6o$14b2ob4o$15b2o3$bo$2o$obo!
x = 192, y = 305, rule = B3/S23
45$126b2o$126b3o$126b3o$126b3o$125bob2o$125b3o$126bo92$166b2o$166b3o$
166b3o$166b3o$165bob2o$165b3o$166bo80$117bobo$120bo$116bo3bo$116bo3bo$
120bo$117bo2bo$118b3o4$121bobo$124bo$120bo3bo$120bo3bo$124bo$121bo2bo$
122b3o10$147b2o$145bo4bo$144bo$144bo5bo$144b6o5$155b2o$154b2ob4o$155b
6o$156b4o2$141b2o$140b2o$142bo!
simsim314 wrote:2. Converting Upper G + Lower G + Side M/LWSS -> Down *WSS. Here I've got only MWSS:
x = 102, y = 40, rule = B3/S23
75bo$75bobo$75b2o12$bo$o$3o5$97b4o$97bo3bo$97bo$98bo2bo3$b3o6b4o$bo8bo
3bo$2bo7bo$11bo2bo7$73b2o$73bobo$73bo!
x = 359, y = 115, rule = B3/S23
41b3o$40b5o$39b2ob3o$40b2o2$44bo$44bo$44bo$39b2ob4o$38b4o$37b2o$38bo$
39b4o3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3b
o3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo
3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo
3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo$43bo2bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3b
o3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo
3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo
3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo$39b
4o3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3b
o3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo
3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo
3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo$38bo$37b2o$38b4o$39b2ob4o$44bo$44bo$44b
o2$40b2o$39b2ob3o$40b5o$41b3o62$4b3o$3b5o$2b2ob3o$3b2o2$7bo$7bo$7bo$2b
2ob4o$b4o$2o309bo$bo308bobob3o$2b4o5bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3b
o3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo
3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo
3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3b4obob3o$6bo4bo3bo3bo
3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo
3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo
3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo
3bo3bo3bo$2b4o5bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3b
o3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo
3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo
3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3b4obob3o$bo308bobob3o$2o309bo$b4o$2b2ob4o
9b2o$7bo9b2ob3o$7bo10b5o$7bo11b3o2$3b2o$2b2ob3o$3b5o$4b3o!
x = 170, y = 43, rule = B3/S23
3$45b3obo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo
3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo$44bo4bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3b
o3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo$38bobo6bobo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo
3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo$38bo5b3o$37b2o2bo$27bo7b
2ob3o$26bo9bobo$26b3o9b2o3b2o$42bob2o$42bo3b2o3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo
3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo$42bo4bo3bo3bo3bo3b
o3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo$43bo
2b2o3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo
3bo3bo3bo$43b3o3$27b2o$27bobo$27bo$38b2o$38bobo$38bo37b3obo3bo3bo3bo3b
o3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo$49b2o24bo4bo3bo3bo3bo3b
o3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo$49bobo18b2o6bobo3bo3bo
3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo$49bo25b3o$60b2o8b
3o$60bobo$60bo7b2o4bo$70bo2bo3bo$72b2o4bo$72bo5bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo
3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo$79bo2bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3b
o3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo$78bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo
3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo$73bo4bo$74b2o!
x = 26, y = 43, rule = B3/S23
22bobo$21bo$21bo3bo$21bo3bo$21bo$21bo2bo$21b3o4$14b2o5b2o$14b3o4b3o$
14b3o4b3o$13bob2o4b3o$13b3o4bob2o$14bo5b3o$21bo11$b2o$3o$3o$3o$2obo$b
3o$2bo3$3bobo4bobo$2bo6bo$2bo3bo2bo3bo$2bo3bo2bo$2bo6bo2bo$2bo2bo3b3o
2b2o$2b3o9b2o!
Alexey_Nigin wrote: Instead, they create an upward stream of *WSS (B) capable of activating SLs
simsim314 wrote:The total cost of such approach is 5 (for lower glider) + 6 (for upper glider) + 7 (5 for down glider + 2 for *WSS stram) = 18 streams which is very nice. If the recipe is not clean another glider is needed for cleaning the mess so it's 23 (which is OK).
codeholic wrote:That is quite a generous calculation. You don't need a separate helix for each glider (or spaceship), you need only one helix to set the pace. And then fanout devices are more efficient
x = 333, y = 18, rule = B3/S23
212bo$8b3o200bo59bo57bo$3o5bo133bo68b3o56bo57bo$o2bo5bo131bo128b3o55b
3o$o93b3o44b3o$o3bo89bo$o94bo$bobo$214bo57b3o$213b3o56bo2bo52b3o$212b
2obo56bo55bo2bo$86b3o55bo67b3o57bo3bo51bo$86bo2bo53b3o66b3o57bo3bo51bo
3bo$86bo55b2obo67b2o57bo55bo$86bo3bo51b3o128bobo53bobo$86bo3bo51b3o$
86bo56b2o$87bobo!
x = 10, y = 60, rule = B3/S23
6bo$5bo$5b3o6$8bo$7b3o$6b2obo$6b3o$6b3o$7b2o40$2b3o$bo2bo$4bo$o3bo$o3b
o$4bo$bobo!
x = 2654, y = 1467, rule = B3/S23
1847bo$1848b2o236bobo$1847b2o238b2o545bobo$2087bo547b2o$2635bo$2538bo$
2539b2o$2538b2o11$2329bobo$2330b2o$2330bo13$1177bo$1178b2o$1177b2o$
1607bo$1608bo$1606b3o6$963bo$964bo429bobo$962b3o430b2o$774bo620bo$772b
obo$773b2o7$614bobo$615b2o$615bo7$2651bo$2564bo85b3o$2563b3o84bob2o$
171bo2390b2obo85b3o$169bobo2390b3o86b3o$170b2o2390b3o86b3o$2bobo2558b
2o86b2o$3b2o$3bo320bo867bo$322bobo148bo717b3o$323b2o146bobo716b2obo$
472b2o716b3o216b3o$1190b3o216bo2bo942bo$1191b2o216bo944b3o$1409bo3bo
940bob2o$1409bo945b3o$1410bobo210b3o245bo483b3o$1622bo2bo244b3o482b2o$
1625bo244bob2o$1621bo3bo245b3o$1621bo3bo245b3o$1625bo245b2o239bo$1622b
obo486b3o$2110b2obo$2110b3o$2110b3o432b3o$2111b2o432bo2bo$2545bo$2545b
o3bo$787bo1757bo97b3o$786b3o1757bobo94bo2bo$628bo157bob2o188bo1664bo$
627b3o157b3o187b3o634b3o1026bo$626b2obo157b2o187b2obo422b3o209bo2bo
1026bobo$626b3o347b3o206b3o214bo2bo208bo723b3o$626b3o348b2o206bo2bo
213bo211bo3bo719bo2bo$626b3o556bo216bo3bo207bo3bo719bo$627b2o556bo216b
o211bo723bo$10b3o768b3o402bobo214bobo209bobo237b3o481bobo$10bo2bo164b
3o600bo2bo1070bo2bo$10bo167bo2bo599bo1073bo$10bo3bo163bo602bo1073bo$
10bo3bo163bo603bobo185b3o883bobo$10bo168bobo788bo2bo$11bobo609b3o344bo
$488b3o132bo2bo343bo3bo1119b3o$488bo2bo131bo346bo1123bo2bo$488bo134bo
347bobo1120bo$479b3o6bo3bo131bobo1467bo3bo$479bo2bo5bo1605bo$479bo9bob
o1603bobo$479bo3bo$479bo$480bobo5$339bo$16bo321b3o$15b3o320bob2o$14b2o
bo321b3o$14b3o167bo154b3o$15b2o166b3o153b3o$182b2obo145b3o5b2o$182b3o
146bo2bo$182b3o146bo$183b2o146bo$332bobo90$1381bo$1381bobo$1381b2o5$
1586bo$1585bo$1585b3o3$2118bo$2117bo$1832bo284b3o$1830b2o$1831b2o5$
1261bobo$1261b2o$697bo564bo$697bobo$697b2o303bo$1002bobo1318bo$29bo
972b2o1317b2o$28bo2293b2o$28b3o2$471bo$469b2o$470b2o3$600bo247bobo$
598b2o248b2o295bobo$599b2o248bo295b2o106b3o$1146bo105bo2bo$1255bo$
1251bo3bo117b3o$1251bo3bo116bo2bo$1255bo119bo$1252bobo116bo3bo197b3o$
327bobo1041bo3bo197bo2bo$327b2o1046bo197bo$193bobo132bo1043bobo198bo3b
o$193b2o1378bo3bo$194bo1378bo$1574bobo$1241b3o580bo$1240bo2bo579b3o
489bo$840b3o400bo579bob2o487b3o$839bo2bo294b3o103bo580b3o487bob2o$842b
o293bo2bo100bobo581b3o488b3o$838bo3bo296bo684b2o489b3o$838bo3bo292bo3b
o222b3o950b3o$319b3o520bo296bo222bo2bo949b2o$20b3o295bo2bo517bobo294bo
bo223bo$19bo2bo298bo1040bo$22bo294bo3bo367b3o301b3o367bobo$18bo3bo294b
o3bo366bo2bo300bo2bo$18bo3bo298bo369bo303bo581b3o$22bo162b3o130bobo
366bo3bo303bo580bo2bo$19bobo162bo2bo503bo300bobo584bo$187bo500bobo884b
o3bo$183bo3bo937b3o447bo3bo$187bo638b3o295bo2bo451bo$184bobo639bo2bo
153bo143bo448bobo$826bo155b3o142bo$826bo3bo151bob2o138bobo$826bo156b3o
837b3o$461b3o363bobo153b3o836bo2bo487b3o$460bo2bo127b3o389b3o839bo276b
3o207bo2bo$463bo126bo2bo389b2o836bo3bo276bo2bo209bo$463bo129bo1231bo
276bo212bo$460bobo126bo3bo1228bobo277bo3bo205bobo$593bo1508bo3bo$171b
3o416bobo1509bo$171bo2bo1928bobo$171bo518bo$171bo3bo132b3o378b3o$171bo
135bo2bo377b2obo$172bobo135bo377b3o$306bo3bo377b3o$310bo378b2o$307bobo
142bo$451b3o$450b2obo128bo$450b3o128b3o$10bo440b2o127b2obo$9b3o568b3o$
8b2obo569b2o$8b3o$8b3o2097b3o$8b3o2096bo2bo$9b2o2099bo$2110bo$2107bobo
85$354bo$354b2o$353bobo2$259b2o$260b2o$259bo$135b2o$134bobo$136bo233bo
$369b3o$3o5b3o358bob2o$2bo5bo2bo358b3o$bo6bo361b2o$8bo3bo129b3o$8bo3bo
129bo2bo128bo$8bo133bo130b3o$9bobo130bo3bo119b3o3b2obo$142bo3bo119bo2b
o2b3o$142bo123bo6b2o86b3o$143bobo120bo3bo90bo2bo$266bo3bo90bo$266bo94b
o3bo$267bobo91bo3bo$361bo$362bobo10$145bo$144b3o$144bob2o$145b3o$145b
3o$145b2o2$13b3o$12bo2bo$15bo$11bo3bo$15bo$12bobo98$165bo237b3o286b2o
128b3o$164b2o237bo130b3o154b2o129bo260b2o$164bobo237bo129bo158bo129bo
120b2o136b2o$535bo407b2o139bo$267bo545b3o129bo$266b2o544bo2bo$38bo227b
obo546bo$37b2o776bo$37bobo218b3o551bobo$257bo2bo$260bo$256bo3bo$260bo$
257bobo424b3o$156b3o524bo2bo383bo4b3o$155bo2bo235b3o289bo382b3o2bo2bo$
158bo234bo2bo128b3o154bo3bo240b3o139bob2o4bo$154bo3bo237bo127bo2bo154b
o3bo126bo113bo2bo139b4o3bo$158bo237bo130bo158bo125b3o112bo142b3o4bo$
155bobo235bobo131bo155bobo125b2obo112bo8b3o131b3obobo$29b3o492bobo284b
3o114bobo4bo2bo131b2o$28bo2bo780b2o124bo$31bo902bo3bo$27bo3bo481bo168b
o251bo3bo$31bo348bo131b3o166b3o254bo$28bobo348b3o129b2obo166bob2o250bo
bo$256bo122bob2o128b3o168b3o$255b3o122b3o129b2o168b2o$254b2obo122b3o$
254b3o123b2o$255b2o5$141b3o$141bo2bo$141bo$141bo$142bobo4$12b3o$11bo2b
o$14bo$10bo3bo$14bo$11bobo165$25bobo$25b2o$26bo2$160bo$160bobo133bo$
160b2o132b2o$295b2o24$152b3o124bo$151bo2bo123b3o$154bo123bob2o$150bo3b
o124b3o$150bo3bo124b3o$154bo124b3o$151bobo125b2o$17b3o$16bo2bo$19bo$
15bo3bo$15bo3bo$19bo267b3o$10bo5bobo267bo2bo$9b3o277bo$8b2obo273bo3bo$
8b3o274bo3bo$8b3o278bo$8b3o275bobo$9b2o$152bo$151b3o$150b2obo$150b3o$
151b2o128$20b2o$19bobo$21bo6$32bo$31b3o$30b2obo$30b3o$30b3o$31b2o15$
27b3o$27bo2bo$27bo$27bo3bo$27bo$28bobo125$270bobo$271b2o$271bo5$32bo$
33b2o$32b2o106bo$141bo$139b3o31$284bo$283b3o$39b3o241bob2o$39bo2bo241b
3o$39bo244b3o$39bo3bo240b3o$39bo3bo103b3o134b2o$39bo107bo2bo$40bobo
104bo130b3o$147bo3bo126bo2bo$147bo3bo126bo$147bo8b3o119bo3bo$148bobo5b
o2bo118bo3bo$156bo121bo$156bo3bo118bobo$156bo3bo$156bo$157bobo9$51bo$
50b3o$49b2obo$49b3o$49b3o$50b2o94$366bo$367b2o$366b2o$216bo$217bo$215b
3o4$376bo$375b3o$375bob2o$376b3o$376b3o$376b3o$376b2o2$27bo$25bobo$26b
2o16$374b3o$374bo2bo$374bo$374bo$375bobo2$223b3o$223bo2bo$223bo$33b3o
187bo3bo$33bo2bo186bo$33bo190bobo$33bo3bo$33bo3bo$33bo$34bobo$234b3o$
233bo2bo$236bo$232bo3bo$42bo193bo$41b3o189bobo$41bob2o$42b3o$42b3o$42b
2o104$32bobo$32b2o$33bo9$23bo$22b3o$22bob2o$23b3o$23b3o$23b3o$23b2o7$
24b3o$23bo2bo$26bo$22bo3bo$26bo$23bobo!
x = 1594, y = 1031, rule = B3/S23
115bo$116bo$114b3o34$217bo$218b2o$217b2o15$2bo$obo$b2o8$136bo$135b3o$
134b2obo$134b3o$134b3o90b3o$134b3o89bo2bo$135b2o92bo$229bo$226bobo4$
224b3o$9b3o212bo2bo$9bo2bo211bo$9bo214bo3bo$9bo113b3o98bo3bo$10bobo
110bo2bo97bo$123bo101bobo$123bo$124bobo$12bo$11b3o$11bob2o$12b3o$12b2o
161$1434bo$1434bobo$1434b2o6$847bo$845b2o$846b2o10$639bo$637b2o$638b2o
9$29bo$28bo$28b3o$424bobo$424b2o$425bo5$259bo$258bo$258b3o1332bo$1591b
2o$1592b2o3$1286bo$1286bobo$1286b2o128b3o$1057bobo356bo2bo$1057b2o357b
o166b3o$1058bo357bo3bo161bo2bo$250b3o1163bo3bo164bo$249bo2bo1023b3o
137bo164bo3bo$252bo1023bo2bo137bobo165bo$248bo3bo1023bo305bobo$252bo
1023bo3bo$249bobo1024bo3bo$20b3o597bo655bo$19bo2bo224bo371b3o655bobo$
22bo223b3o370bob2o425bo$18bo3bo223bob2o370b3o424b3o$22bo224b3o165b3o
202b3o424bob2o$19bobo225b3o164bo2bo202b2o426b3o$247b2o168bo630b3o$17bo
399bo411bo218b2o$16b3o395bobo411b3o$15b2obo808b2obo$15b3o809b3o$15b3o
396b3o410b3o447b3o$15b3o396bo2bo410b2o219b3o224bo2bo145b3o155b3o$16b2o
396bo215b3o415bo2bo227bo144bo2bo154bo2bo$414bo3bo210bo2bo418bo227bo
147bo157bo$414bo3bo213bo414bo3bo224bobo148bo157bo$414bo213bo3bo418bo
372bobo155bobo$415bobo210bo3bo415bobo$632bo$629bobo2$837b3o$836bo2bo$
839bo$839bo$836bobo125$952bo$233bo716b2o$232bo565bo152b2o$232b3o146bob
o413bo$34bobo344b2o414b3o$34b2o346bo$35bo6$535bobo$535b2o$536bo$675bob
o$675b2o$676bo14$936b3o$787b3o146bo2bo$786bo2bo146bo$789bo146bo3bo$
785bo3bo146bo3bo$789bo146bo$786bobo148bobo3$372b3o$371bo2bo$26b3o195b
3o147bo$25bo2bo194bo2bo147bo$28bo197bo144bobo$24bo3bo193bo3bo$24bo3bo
187bo5bo3bo141bo419b3o$28bo186b3o8bo140b3o417bo2bo$25bobo186b2obo5bobo
140b2obo420bo$214b3o149b3o157b3o261bo$214b3o149b3o156bo2bo258bobo$214b
3o149b3o159bo413b3o$215b2o150b2o159bo137b3o272bo2bo$525bobo137bo2bo
275bo$668bo275bo$522bo145bo272bobo$521b3o141bobo$520b2obo$520b3o139bo$
520b3o138b3o$521b2o137b2obo$660b3o$14b3o644b2o$14bo2bo$14bo$14bo$15bob
o78$206bobo$207b2o$207bo28$29bo$30b2o$29b2o24$221bo$220b3o$220bob2o$
221b3o$221b3o$41bo179b2o$40b3o$40bob2o$41b3o$41b3o$41b3o$41b2o16$215b
3o$215bo2bo$36b3o176bo$36bo2bo175bo$36bo179bobo$36bo3bo$36bo3bo$36bo$
37bobo139$58b3o$60bo$59bo4$74bo$73b3o$73bob2o$74b3o$74b3o$74b3o$74b2o
5$66b3o$66bo2bo$66bo$66bo3bo$66bo3bo$66bo$67bobo100$142bo$141bo$141b3o
16$70bobo$70b2o$71bo21$132b3o$131bo2bo$134bo$130bo3bo$134bo$131bobo2$
55bo$54b3o$53b2obo$53b3o$53b3o$53b3o5b3o$54b2o4bo2bo$63bo$63bo$60bobo
13$132b3o$131bo2bo$134bo$134bo$131bobo!
x = 166, y = 103, rule = B3/S23
31$59bo$57bobo$58b2o12$143bo$143bobo$143b2o6$135b3o$134bo2bo$137bo$
133bo3bo$137bo$134bobo4$102b2o$103b2o$102bo$147bo$146b3o$145b2obo$116b
3o26b3o$115bo2bo26b3o$118bo26b3o$114bo3bo27b2o$114bo3bo$118bo$115bobo
4$110bo$109b3o$109bob2o$110b3o$110b3o$110b3o$110b2o!
x = 133, y = 315, rule = B3/S23
41bobo$44bo$40bo3bo$40bo3bo$44bo$41bo2bo$42b3o92$bobo$4bo$o3bo$o3bo$4b
o$bo2bo$2b3o81$49b2o$48b3o$48b3o$48b3o$48b2obo$49b3o$50bo6$34b2o$33b3o
$33b3o$33b2obo$34b3o$35bo44$15bo$13bobo$14b2o12$99bo$99bobo$99b2o3$
127bo$127bobo$127b2o$91b3o$90bo2bo$93bo$89bo3bo$93bo$90bobo26b3o$118bo
2bo$121bo$117bo3bo$58b2o61bo$59b2o57bobo$58bo$103bo$102b3o$101b2obo$
72b3o26b3o$71bo2bo26b3o$74bo26b3o27bo$70bo3bo27b2o26b3o$70bo3bo54b2obo
$74bo54b3o$71bobo55b3o$129b3o$130b2o2$66bo$65b3o$65bob2o$66b3o$66b3o$
66b3o$66b2o14$40b2o$40b2o!
x = 150, y = 151, rule = B3/S23
11$65b2o$64b3o$64b3o$64b3o$64b2obo$65b3o$66bo4$61b2o$60b3o$50b2o8b3o$
49b3o8b3o$49b3o8b2obo$49b2obo8b3o$50b3o9bo$51bo55$28bo$29bo$27b3o12$
112bo$111bo$111b3o5$104b3o$104bo2bo$104bo$104bo3bo$104bo$105bobo4$72bo
$72b2o$71bobo$116bo$115b3o$115bob2o$85b3o28b3o$85bo2bo27b3o$85bo30b3o$
85bo3bo26b2o$85bo3bo$85bo$86bobo4$79bo$78b3o$77b2obo$77b3o$77b3o$77b3o
$78b2o!
Michael Simkin wrote:Hey Alexey it's cool idea that I can't see working unfortunately. The reason is that upward stream capable of activating SLs will not move those SLs up (while those SLs are the "actual" caterpillar material). This is unpleasant feature of this mechanism. Any stream that activates SLs will move those SLs in opposite direction of its movement, so the only way to move the front is using helices and not stream that activate SLs.
Alexey_Nigin wrote: I do not see any reason why a stream cannot move SLs forward. Do I miss anything?
x = 18, y = 32, rule = B3/S23
10b2o$10b2o14$15b3o$4b3o7bo2bo$3bo2bo10bo$6bo6bo3bo$2bo3bo10bo$2bo3bo
7bobo$6bo$3bobo3$2b3o$bo2bo$4bo$o3bo$o3bo$4bo$bobo!
codeholic wrote:Did I get it right
I wrote:to spend a century on it.
Michael Simkin wrote:and then I saw this:
x = 188, y = 469, rule = B3/S23
31$123bobo$122bo$122bo3bo$122bo3bo$122bo$122bo2bo$122b3o146$167b2o$
166b3o$166b3o$166b3o$166b2obo$167b3o$168bo80$121bobo$120bo$120bo3bo$
120bo3bo$120bo$120bo2bo$120b3o55$131b2o$131b3o$131b3o$130bob2o$130b3o$
131bo7$110bobo$109bo6b2o$109bo3bobo2bo$109bo5bobo$109bo2bo3bo$109b3o
26$116b2o$115bo2bo$115bobo$116bo57$116b2o$115bo2bo$115bobo$116bo!
x = 80, y = 372, rule = B3/S23
46b2o$46b3o$46b3o$46b3o$45bob2o$45b3o$46bo13$77b2o$77b3o$76bob2o$76b3o
$77bo12$22b2o$21b3o$21b2obo$22b3o$23bo$obo$3bo$3bo$o2bo$b3o3$4bobo$3bo
$3bo3bo$3bo3bo$3bo$3bo2bo$3b3o46$31bobo$34bo$30bo3bo$30bo3bo$34bo$31bo
2bo$32b3o4$35bobo$38bo$34bo3bo7bobo$34bo3bo10bo$38bo6bo3bo$35bo2bo10bo
$36b3o7bo2bo$47b3o14$42b2o$42b2o29$42b2o$42b2o59$42b2o$42b2o29$42b2o$
42b2o59$42b2o$42b2o29$42b2o$42b2o29$42b2o$42b2o!
x = 318, y = 410, rule = B3/S23
261bobo$260bo$260bo$260bo2bo$260b3o140$315b2o$314b3o$314b3o$314b3o$
314b2obo$315b3o$316bo36$44bobo$47bo$43bo3bo$43bo3bo$47bo$44bo2bo$45b3o
13$77b2o$77b3o$76bob2o$76b3o$77bo13$15bobo$14bo$14bo3bo$14bo3bo$14bo$
14bo2bo$14b3o2$bobo265bobo$o267bo$o3bo263bo3bo$o3bo263bo3bo$o267bo$o2b
o264bo2bo$3o265b3o49$31bobo$34bo$30bo3bo$30bo3bo$34bo$31bo2bo$32b3o
244b2o$279b3o$279b3o$278bob2o$35bobo240b3o$38bo240bo$34bo3bo7bobo$34bo
3bo10bo$38bo6bo3bo$35bo2bo10bo$36b3o7bo2bo$47b3o$258bobo$257bo6b2o$
257bo3bobo2bo$257bo5bobo$257bo2bo3bo$257b3o8$42b2o$42b2o17$264b2o$263b
o2bo$263bobo$264bo11$42b2o$42b2o29$42b2o$42b2o15$264b2o$263bo2bo$263bo
bo$264bo11$42b2o$42b2o!
x = 77, y = 322, rule = B3/S23
33bobo$36bo$32bo3bo$32bo3bo$36bo$33bo2bo$34b3o4$44bobo$47bo$43bo3bo$
47bo$44bo2bo$45b3o31$15bobo56b2o$18bo55b3o$14bo3bo55b3o$14bo3bo55b3o$
18bo54bob2o$15bo2bo54b3o$16b3o55bo2$bobo$4bo$o3bo$o3bo$4bo$bo2bo$2b3o
54$40bobo$39bo$39bo3bo$39bo3bo$39bo$39bo2bo$39b3o55$50b2o$50b3o$50b3o$
49bob2o$49b3o$50bo7$29bobo$28bo6b2o$28bo3bobo2bo$28bo5bobo$28bo2bo3bo$
28b3o36$35b2o$34bo2bo$34bobo$35bo47$35b2o$34bo2bo$34bobo$35bo37$35b2o$
34bo2bo$34bobo$35bo!
x = 63, y = 302, rule = B3/S23
40bobo$43bo$39bo3bo$39bo3bo$43bo$40bo2bo$41b3o4$51bobo$54bo$50bo3bo$
54bo$51bo2bo$52b3o38$15bobo$18bo$14bo3bo$14bo3bo$18bo$15bo2bo$16b3o2$b
obo$4bo$o3bo$o3bo$4bo$bo2bo$2b3o60$60b2o$60b3o$60b3o$59bob2o$59b3o$60b
o6$57bobo$60bo$56bo3bo$56bo3bo$60bo$57bo2bo$58b3o23$36bobo$35bo6b2o$
35bo3bobo2bo$35bo5bobo$35bo2bo3bo$35b3o36$42b2o$41bo2bo$41bobo$42bo47$
42b2o$41bo2bo$41bobo$42bo37$42b2o$41bo2bo$41bobo$42bo!
simsim314 wrote:Once again thx to Alexey that "showed the way" of optimizing the "caterpillar" idea to it's maximal potential. Although at this point it's should not be called caterpillar but some other creature like gemnipillar or something.
codeholic wrote: "strange loop" seems a better name.
m1,2:E-11
m-12,11:E-9 E13 E-7
m5,12:E-9 E-29 E35
m8,9:E-9 E13 E-51
m-8,7:E9 E29 E9
m1,7:E-9 E11 E3 E-23
m10,10:E-9 E13 E9 E-51
m-10,12:E-9 E13 E-35 E-7
m-11,13:E-9 E13 E-57 E-7
m-2,1:E9 E13 E29 E5
m3,5:E-9 E-27 E-19 E7
m6,14:E-9 E-29 E-25 E35
m-6,5:E-9 E-3 E13 E-11
m-6,8:E9 E29 E-19 E9
m7,13:E-9 E-29 E-3 E35
m-7,9:E9 E29 E-41 E9
m9,11:E-9 E13 E-13 E-51
m0,4:E9 E-7 E-11 E29 E-7
m1,3:E9 E-7 E5 E29 E27
m-10,15:E-9 E13 E-57 E-59 E-7
m11,12:E-9 E13 E9 E-11 E-51
m-14,2:E9 E3 E-11 E5 E29
m2,6:E9 E23 E-5 E19 E9
m2,9:E-9 E-23 E3 E-23 E3
m-2,10:E-9 E7 E-21 E3 E-9
m-2,9:E9 E3 E-1 E-3 E-3
m-3,7:E-9 E-23 E-11 E13 E11
m4,9:E-9 E11 E-7 E-11 E3
m-4,8:E-9 E-23 E-27 E13 E-23
m-4,9:E9 E29 E-19 E-17 E9
m5,6:E-9 E7 E-19 E7 E-19
m-5,10:E9 E29 E-19 E-39 E9
m-6,11:E9 E29 E-41 E-43 E9
m-6,13:E-9 E-13 E-17 E-19 E-19
m7,16:E-9 E-29 E-25 E-27 E35
m8,15:E-9 E-29 E-25 E-5 E35
m-8,13:E-9 E13 E-35 E-33 E-7
m9,14:E-9 E-29 E-3 E-1 E35
m-9,14:E-9 E13 E-35 E-55 E-7
m1,28:E-9 E7 E7 E-17 E-5 E9
m-10,5:E-9 E-3 E11 E7 E-27 E-9
m-11,17:E-9 E-13 E-17 E-19 E-23 E-41
m13,21:E-9 E-29 E-23 E-1 E-55 E35
m17,17:E9 E29 E5 E-15 E39 E-35
m-20,18:E9 E29 E-39 E-17 E-37 E9
m-24,22:E-9 E13 E-55 E-33 E-53 E-7
m-3,19:E-9 E-29 E-5 E15 E5 E35
m-3,9:E-9 E7 E11 E13 E-21 E19
m-4,18:E9 E29 E-19 E-19 E-33 E-5
m5,24:E9 E23 E23 E-1 E3 E-3
m-5,13:E9 E29 E-41 E-43 E-45 E9
m-7,13:E9 E3 E-1 E-3 E-7 E-5
m-7,15:E-9 E13 E-35 E-33 E-53 E-7
m-7,23:E-9 E-29 E-23 E-1 E-11 E35
m-8,16:E-9 E13 E-57 E-59 E-39 E-7
m-8,22:E-9 E13 E-35 E-35 E-49 E-37
m-9,17:E-9 E13 E-57 E-59 E-61 E-7
m0,29:E-9 E-27 E-27 E-39 E-49 E-3 E-13
m-1,23:E9 E29 E-41 E-43 E-43 E-63 E1
m-13,17:E9 E29 E-19 E-39 E-21 E-1 E7
m14,23:E-9 E-29 E-25 E-25 E-3 E-57 E35
m-14,29:E9 E29 E5 E-9 E-9 E27 E27
m-15,-1:E9 E27 E29 E-1 E23 E-9 E-57
m-16,16:E-9 E7 E13 E-23 E-3 E-25 E-21
m-17,21:E-9 E13 E-35 E-55 E-37 E-17 E-9
m18,19:E9 E29 E5 E-15 E39 E-11 E-35
m-18,19:E9 E29 E-19 E-37 E-15 E-35 E9
m-18,33:E-9 E13 E-11 E-25 E-25 E11 E9
m-19,20:E9 E29 E-39 E-17 E-37 E-87 E9
m-21,12:E-9 E-3 E11 E7 E-27 E-25 E-5
m-21,9:E9 E3 E-1 E-17 E-1 E7 E33
m22,22:E9 E29 E3 E21 E-19 E-21 E-47
m-22,23:E-9 E13 E-35 E-53 E-31 E-51 E-7
m-25,13:E-9 E-13 E-17 E-33 E-17 E-9 E17
m-5,27:E-9 E13 E-57 E-59 E-59 E-79 E-15
m-6,25:E-9 E-29 E-25 E-25 E-3 E-13 E35
m-16,34:E-9 E13 E-11 E-25 E-25 E11 E-91 E9
m-17,35:E-9 E13 E-11 E-25 E-25 E11 E-113 E9
m-21,25:E-9 E13 E-57 E-57 E-35 E-83 E-55 E-7
m-23,14:E-9 E-13 E-17 E-33 E-17 E-9 E-65 E17
m-30,17:E-9 E-13 E-27 E-11 E-57 E-35 E-55 E-5
m16,36:E-9 E-29 E-5 E-17 E-17 E-7 E-19 E9 E35
m-16,-13:E-9 E7 E-5 E-3 E11 E11 E-1 E27 E-9
m-22,-8:E-9 E-13 E-17 E-15 E1 E-21 E-27 E-49 E45
m-25,-11:E9 E3 E-1 E1 E17 E-5 E-11 E-17 E61
m-28,18:E-9 E-13 E-27 E-11 E-57 E-35 E-55 E-83 E-5
m-29,19:E-9 E-13 E-27 E-11 E-57 E-35 E-55 E-105 E-5
m-29,-7:E-9 E-13 E-17 E-15 E1 E-21 E-27 E-33 E45
x = 63, y = 42, rule = B3/S23
61bo$60bo$60b3o10$20b2o$20b2o3$10b2o3b2o$6b2o2b2o3b2o$6b2o9$6bo$5bobo$
5bobo$6bo2$b2o$o2bo$b2o$36b2o$7b2o11b2o14b2o$7b2o11b2o$27b2o$27b2o$12b
2o$12b2o!
x = 30, y = 30, rule = B3/S23
2$23b2o$23b2o10$16b2o5b2o$16b2o4bo2bo$11bo11b2o$9bobo$10b2o2$20b2o$19b
o2bo$19bobo$20bo2$13b2o$13b2o!
x = 60, y = 70, rule = B3/S23
$9bo$10bo$8b3o21$40b2o$40b2o8$43b2o$43b2o4$12b2o$12b2o$41b2o$41b2o5$
22b2o$17b2o3b2o$17b2o29b2o$37bo9bo2bo$36bobo9b2o$36bobo$37bo6bo$43bobo
$43bobo$44bo3$43b2o$43b2o5$42b2o$41bo2bo$38bo3b2o$37bobo$37bobo$38bo!
x = 15, y = 21, rule = B3/S23
2b2o$2b2o2$12bo$12bobo$12b2o9$10b2o$10b2o3$b2o$obo$bo!
simsim314 wrote:The further the seeds the more operations they will require.
codeholic wrote:simsim314 wrote:
The further the seeds the more operations they will require.
Hmm. Why so?
simsim314 wrote:Head1 can't be killed by glider shoot from itself obviously - because it's faster
simsim314 wrote:By the way codeholic do you have any idea how to generate edge shooting MWSS using only P1 in more efficient way (less than 12 SLs)? (and where can I find Glue recipes for different SLs P1?)