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Re: Soup search results

Post by FlameandFury » November 28th, 2016, 12:11 am

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x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
o2b2ob2ob2o2bobo$3o3bo2bo2b4o$o2bobob4o3bo$bob5o2bob2obo$obo2bo2b3obo
2bo$3bo5b3o$3ob2o4b2obobo$2ob3ob2obob2obo$3o2b2obobob2obo$2b5ob5o$2o2b
4o2b2o3bo$4bob4ob2o$bo4bobo2bob2o$bo2bobob2obobobo$2bo2b2obo5b2o$2bo3b
ob4obo!
Any use?
what is sesame oil?

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Re: Soup search results

Post by mniemiec » November 28th, 2016, 4:08 am

BlinkerSpawn wrote:12-bit P2 in 13 gliders, listed as 18: ...
A for Awesome found an 8 glider synthesis on 2016-09-14 based on a predecessor by GoldTiger997.

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x = 127, y = 31, rule = B3/S23
41bo$42boo$41boo$31bo32bobo$32bo31boo$30b3o32bo7$82b3o17b3o17b3o$bo45b
o$bbo42boo34boobbo15boobbo15boobbo$3o43boo$20boo27b3o8boo20bobboo15bo
bboo15bobboo$bbo17bobo26bo10bobo$boo18bo28bo10bo21b3o17b3o17b3o$bobo5$
81bo19bo$80bobo17bobo$80bobo17bobo$81bo19bo$98boo$97bobo$99bo!

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Re: Soup search results

Post by praosylen » November 29th, 2016, 6:05 pm

Two new soups for the copperhead:

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x = 32, y = 32, rule = B3/S23
bbooobbobbbbobboobbobbbbobbooobb$
boobboobbbbbbbboobbbbbbbboobboob$
oooooboobbbbobboobbobbbboobooooo$
obooboooobbbbbboobbbbbbooooboobo$
oboboboboboooobooboooobobobobobo$
bobobbobobooobboobbooobobobbobob$
booooobbobboobbbbbboobbobbooooob$
oboobbboobboboboobobobboobbboobo$
bbboooooboooboboobobooobooooobbb$
bbbbbbbbobboobbbbbboobbobbbbbbbb$
bbbboobbobboooobboooobbobboobbbb$
bbbboooooooooobooboooooooooobbbb$
obobooobboooobooooboooobbooobobo$
bbbbobbooboobobbbbobooboobbobbbb$
bbbbbbbbbbobobobbobobobbbbbbbbbb$
ooooooboobboobbbbbboobbooboooooo$
ooooooboobboobbbbbboobbooboooooo$
bbbbbbbbbbobobobbobobobbbbbbbbbb$
bbbbobbooboobobbbbobooboobbobbbb$
obobooobboooobooooboooobbooobobo$
bbbboooooooooobooboooooooooobbbb$
bbbboobbobboooobboooobbobboobbbb$
bbbbbbbbobboobbbbbboobbobbbbbbbb$
bbboooooboooboboobobooobooooobbb$
oboobbboobboboboobobobboobbboobo$
booooobbobboobbbbbboobbobbooooob$
bobobbobobooobboobbooobobobbobob$
oboboboboboooobooboooobobobobobo$
obooboooobbbbbboobbbbbbooooboobo$
oooooboobbbbobboobbobbbboobooooo$
boobboobbbbbbbboobbbbbbbboobboob$
bbooobbobbbbobboobbobbbbobbooobb!

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x = 32, y = 32, rule = B3/S23
bobbobbobbbobobbbbobobbbobbobbob$
bbbbbooobbbboboooobobbbbooobbbbb$
obbbobobbbbobobbbbobobbbbobobbbo$
bbobboobooooooobboooooooboobbobb$
boobooboooooooobboooooooobooboob$
oboobboooobbobobbobobboooobboobo$
bobbobbooooboobbbbooboooobbobbob$
bbboobooboobboooooobboobooboobbb$
oobbboobbbobobboobbobobbboobbboo$
ooobboooooobboobboobboooooobbooo$
boobobooboboobobboboobobooboboob$
boobobbooooobobbbbobooooobboboob$
oooobbobobobobobbobobobobobboooo$
bbobbbboooooooobboooooooobbbbobb$
oooooobbobboobooooboobbobboooooo$
oobbbbbobobbboboobobbbobobbbbboo$
oobbbbbobobbboboobobbbobobbbbboo$
oooooobbobboobooooboobbobboooooo$
bbobbbboooooooobboooooooobbbbobb$
oooobbobobobobobbobobobobobboooo$
boobobbooooobobbbbobooooobboboob$
boobobooboboobobboboobobooboboob$
ooobboooooobboobboobboooooobbooo$
oobbboobbbobobboobbobobbboobbboo$
bbboobooboobboooooobboobooboobbb$
bobbobbooooboobbbbooboooobbobbob$
oboobboooobbobobbobobboooobboobo$
boobooboooooooobboooooooobooboob$
bbobboobooooooobboooooooboobbobb$
obbbobobbbbobobbbbobobbbbobobbbo$
bbbbbooobbbboboooobobbbbooobbbbb$
bobbobbobbbobobbbbobobbbobbobbob!
Unfortunately, they both form within the first seven gens.

A strange p3:

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x = 32, y = 31, rule = B3/S23
oooobobobooobooooooboooboboboooo$
obbbobobbooobbobbobbooobbobobbbo$
obbooobbbobbbbboobbbbbobbbooobbo$
obboboboooooboooooobooooobobobbo$
obbbbbbbbbbbbbobbobbbbbbbbbbbbbo$
booooobbboboooooooooobobbbooooob$
boobbbbbbbbboobooboobbbbbbbbboob$
bboobbbbooobboboobobbooobbbboobb$
bbobboobbbbboobooboobbbbboobbobb$
obobobboooboboobboobobooobbobobo$
boboooooobobbobbbbobboboooooobob$
bbbbbboobobbbobbbbobbboboobbbbbb$
ooobbooboobobbboobbbobooboobbooo$
oobooboobbbboboooobobbbboobooboo$
obbboboobooobbbbbbbboooboobobbbo$
booooooobbbobobbbbobobbbooooooob$
obbboboobooobbbbbbbboooboobobbbo$
oobooboobbbboboooobobbbboobooboo$
ooobbooboobobbboobbbobooboobbooo$
bbbbbboobobbbobbbbobbboboobbbbbb$
boboooooobobbobbbbobboboooooobob$
obobobboooboboobboobobooobbobobo$
bbobboobbbbboobooboobbbbboobbobb$
bboobbbbooobboboobobbooobbbboobb$
boobbbbbbbbboobooboobbbbbbbbboob$
booooobbboboooooooooobobbbooooob$
obbbbbbbbbbbbbobbobbbbbbbbbbbbbo$
obboboboooooboooooobooooobobobbo$
obbooobbbobbbbboobbbbbobbbooobbo$
obbbobobbooobbobbobbooobbobobbbo$
oooobobobooobooooooboooboboboooo!
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Re: Soup search results

Post by muzik » November 29th, 2016, 6:30 pm

I have a weird suspicion zdr is a time traveller.

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Re: Soup search results

Post by gmc_nxtman » November 29th, 2016, 6:47 pm

A for awesome wrote:Two new soups for the copperhead...
The latter one of those allows this predecessor, which may (translation: probably won't) make for a slightly cheaper synthesis:

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x = 12, y = 14, rule = B3/S23
3bo$5bo$3b2obo2$6b2o$5bobo$2obobo4b2o$o2bobo4b2o$5bobo$6b2o2$3b2obo$5b
o$4bo!

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Re: Soup search results

Post by dvgrn » November 29th, 2016, 8:43 pm

gmc_nxtman wrote:
A for awesome wrote:Two new soups for the copperhead...
The latter one of those allows this predecessor, which may (translation: probably won't) make for a slightly cheaper synthesis...
Not that I really know what I'm talking about, but that does look kind of promising. It's basically a dock (four gliders? Too bad it's not a pi...) plus three small active objects which I'd expect to take three or four gliders each. Up to five gliders each would still beat the current 22-glider cost.

It's too bad that block can't be replaced by a single glider. But at least there's a lot of flexibility in the time that the block is created, so it won't be in the way until it's needed:

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x = 18, y = 14, rule = B3/S23
3bo$5bo$3b2obo$14bo$6b2o4b2o$5bobo5b2o$2obobo$o2bobo$5bobo$6b2o$16b2o$
3b2obo8b2o$5bo11bo$4bo!

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Re: Soup search results

Post by AbhpzTa » November 30th, 2016, 4:13 pm

A for awesome wrote:A strange p3:

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x = 32, y = 31, rule = B3/S23
oooobobobooobooooooboooboboboooo$
obbbobobbooobbobbobbooobbobobbbo$
obbooobbbobbbbboobbbbbobbbooobbo$
obboboboooooboooooobooooobobobbo$
obbbbbbbbbbbbbobbobbbbbbbbbbbbbo$
booooobbboboooooooooobobbbooooob$
boobbbbbbbbboobooboobbbbbbbbboob$
bboobbbbooobboboobobbooobbbboobb$
bbobboobbbbboobooboobbbbboobbobb$
obobobboooboboobboobobooobbobobo$
boboooooobobbobbbbobboboooooobob$
bbbbbboobobbbobbbbobbboboobbbbbb$
ooobbooboobobbboobbbobooboobbooo$
oobooboobbbboboooobobbbboobooboo$
obbboboobooobbbbbbbboooboobobbbo$
booooooobbbobobbbbobobbbooooooob$
obbboboobooobbbbbbbboooboobobbbo$
oobooboobbbboboooobobbbboobooboo$
ooobbooboobobbboobbbobooboobbooo$
bbbbbboobobbbobbbbobbboboobbbbbb$
boboooooobobbobbbbobboboooooobob$
obobobboooboboobboobobooobbobobo$
bbobboobbbbboobooboobbbbboobbobb$
bboobbbbooobboboobobbooobbbboobb$
boobbbbbbbbboobooboobbbbbbbbboob$
booooobbboboooooooooobobbbooooob$
obbbbbbbbbbbbbobbobbbbbbbbbbbbbo$
obboboboooooboooooobooooobobobbo$
obbooobbbobbbbboobbbbbobbbooobbo$
obbbobobbooobbobbobbooobbobobbbo$
oooobobobooobooooooboooboboboooo!
Probably 20G:

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x = 138, y = 110, rule = B3/S23
obo132bobo$b2o132b2o$bo134bo47$48b2o38b2o$48b4o8bo16bo8b4o$47bo12bo16b
o12bo$48bo2bo8bo16bo8bo2bo$48b3o36b3o8$64bo8bo$63bobo6bobo$62bo2bo6bo
2bo$63b2o8b2o43$10b2o114b2o$9bobo114bobo$11bo114bo!
100009436650194649 = 94649 * 1056634900001

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Re: Soup search results

Post by Goldtiger997 » December 1st, 2016, 7:20 am

dvgrn wrote:
gmc_nxtman wrote:
A for awesome wrote:Two new soups for the copperhead...
The latter one of those allows this predecessor, which may (translation: probably won't) make for a slightly cheaper synthesis...
Not that I really know what I'm talking about, but that does look kind of promising. It's basically a dock (four gliders? Too bad it's not a pi...) plus three small active objects which I'd expect to take three or four gliders each. Up to five gliders each would still beat the current 22-glider cost.

It's too bad that block can't be replaced by a single glider. But at least there's a lot of flexibility in the time that the block is created, so it won't be in the way until it's needed:

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x = 18, y = 14, rule = B3/S23
3bo$5bo$3b2obo$14bo$6b2o4b2o$5bobo5b2o$2obobo$o2bobo$5bobo$6b2o$16b2o$
3b2obo8b2o$5bo11bo$4bo!
Here are some 3 glider syntheses for the junk on the top and bottom, and on the left:

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x = 48, y = 63, rule = B3/S23
4$12bo$14bo$12b2obo$23bo$15b2o4b2o$14bobo5b2o$9b2obobo$9bo2bobo$14bobo
$15b2o$25b2o$12b2obo8b2o$14bo11bo$13bo17$15bo19b2o$12b2o2bo15b2o$13b2o
18b2o$12bo19bo10$31bo$30b2o$13bo16bobo$7b3obobo$9bo2b2o14b2o$8bo18bobo
$29bo$12b2o$11bobo22bo$13bo21b2o$35bobo!
I am not sure how to make the dock with a synthesis from a suitable predecessor

EDIT:

Here are some more ways of making the junk on the left:

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x = 37, y = 61, rule = B3/S23
2$7bo3bo$5bobob2o$6b2o2b2o12bo3bo$25b2obobo$24b2o2b2o2$8b3o$8bo$9bo5$
30bo$29b2o$12bo16bobo$12bobo$12b2o6$9bobo$10b2o18bo$10bo19bobo$30b2o$
10b3o$12bo14bo$11bo13bobo$26b2o$29b2o$30b2o$29bo2$5b2o$6b2o$5bo3bobo
22bo$9b2o21b2o$10bo22b2o$14b2o$13b2o16bo$15bo13bobo$30b2o2$28b2o$27bob
o$29bo3$11bo$6bo4bobo$7bo3b2o$5b3o$9b2o$8bobo$10bo!
That along with the previous ones should be all the possible 3-glider collisions for that piece of junk

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Re: Soup search results

Post by muzik » December 1st, 2016, 11:59 am

The third pattern that I was the first to discover. 'about a synthesis?

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x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
oooooooooboobooo$
obbboooooboboboo$
oobobbbbooooobbo$
oobooooooobobbbo$
bbobobobbobboobb$
obobboooobooobbb$
oobobobbboboboob$
obobobbbboboobbb$
oobbbboobooooboo$
bobbboobooooobob$
bobbbobboooooobb$
obbobooboobboooo$
bbbooooooobboobb$
oboooooobbbooooo$
bboobobbboboooob$
boooboobboobboob!

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Re: Soup search results

Post by AbhpzTa » December 1st, 2016, 4:25 pm

muzik wrote:The third pattern that I was the first to discover. 'about a synthesis?

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x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
oooooooooboobooo$
obbboooooboboboo$
oobobbbbooooobbo$
oobooooooobobbbo$
bbobobobbobboobb$
obobboooobooobbb$
oobobobbboboboob$
obobobbbboboobbb$
oobbbboobooooboo$
bobbboobooooobob$
bobbbobboooooobb$
obbobooboobboooo$
bbbooooooobboobb$
oboooooobbbooooo$
bboobobbboboooob$
boooboobboobboob!
13G:

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x = 73, y = 77, rule = B3/S23
15bo$13bobo$14b2o4$2bo$obo$b2o8$30bobo$31b2o$31bo38bobo$70b2o$65bobo3b
o$65b2o$66bo2$23bo34bo$24b2o31bo$23b2o32b3o3$16bo44bobo$14bobo44b2o$
15b2o45bo24$67b2o$66b2o$68bo7$60b2o$59b2o$61bo4$62b3o$62bo$63bo2$24b2o
$25b2o$24bo!
100009436650194649 = 94649 * 1056634900001

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Re: Soup search results

Post by mniemiec » December 1st, 2016, 8:24 pm

Goldtiger997 wrote:Here are some 3 glider syntheses for the junk on the top and bottom, and on the left: ...
When attempting a synthesis by combining several separate components, it is usually a good idea to try to understand how the components will come together. Components can be adjacent only if they could be created adjacent to one another, and this usually requires either both components to be created from the same initial pattern (e.g. often happens in soups), or if two patterns both edge-shoot the components. In this case, almost all of the syntheses of "pre-block plus domino" create it via "pre-pre-block plus domino", with the domino receding inward. Even if such a component could be created on an edge, the dock would have to advance at c into the receding domino, meaning that typical dock predecessors could not work - you would need one that relies on the domino being there. A similar problem exists with the top and bottom junk - they recede just before forming the junk.

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Re: Soup search results

Post by praosylen » December 3rd, 2016, 12:39 pm

New xs39 in C1:

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x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
boboobboobbobboo$
bboobobbbbobbbob$
bbbobooooboobboo$
bobobbbbbbobbobo$
obooobobobooooob$
bobbbobbobbobbob$
bbbbooboobobbboo$
bbobboobobbobobo$
booooobboobbbobo$
obbbobbobboooobo$
ooooboooboooobob$
obboobbbobbbobob$
boooobobooboooob$
oboobboobbooobbb$
bobbbooobbbobboo$
bboobboobbbbobbo!
Second double queen bee oscillator in C1:

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x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
bbooobobboobobbo$
oooobbbobbbbbbbb$
boobobooooobbbbb$
oobbboboboooobbb$
bbbobboooooooobo$
boooobooboobobbb$
ooooobobbobboobo$
bbbobbbbbobbbobo$
ooobbooobbbboobo$
ooobobobbbbbboob$
boobbbbobboobobo$
bboobbbbobbooobo$
bbbobboobobobbbb$
obobbobobbobobbb$
obobobooboobbbob$
boobbobobbbbbobb!
This is actually the smallest known (albeit trivial) p10 in terms of minimum bounding box:

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x = 31, y = 31, rule = B3/S23
bbobbobbbobooobbbooobobbbobbobb$
boobbobbbbooboobooboobbbbobboob$
ooboobbooobbbooooobbbooobbooboo$
bbobboooobbbbobbbobbbboooobbobb$
bboboobbobbobobbbobobbobboobobb$
ooboooobbbooobbobbooobbbooooboo$
bbbobobbbbbbobbbbbobbbbbbobobbb$
bboobbbbooooobbobbooooobbbboobb$
bbooobbobboobbbobbboobbobbooobb$
obobbbbobooobbbobbbooobobbbbobo$
bobbbobooooboboboboboooobobbbob$
oobbooboooboboooooboboooboobboo$
obbbbooobbobobooobobobbooobbbbo$
ooooobbbbbbobbooobbobbbbbbooooo$
boobbbbbbbooooobooooobbbbbbboob$
bbobbobooobooobobooobooobobbobb$
boobbbbbbbooooobooooobbbbbbboob$
ooooobbbbbbobbooobbobbbbbbooooo$
obbbbooobbobobooobobobbooobbbbo$
oobbooboooboboooooboboooboobboo$
bobbbobooooboboboboboooobobbbob$
obobbbbobooobbbobbbooobobbbbobo$
bbooobbobboobbbobbboobbobbooobb$
bboobbbbooooobbobbooooobbbboobb$
bbbobobbbbbbobbbbbobbbbbbobobbb$
ooboooobbbooobbobbooobbbooooboo$
bboboobbobbobobbbobobbobboobobb$
bbobboooobbbbobbbobbbboooobbobb$
ooboobbooobbbooooobbbooobbooboo$
boobbobbbbooboobooboobbbbobboob$
bbobbobbbobooobbbooobobbbobbobb!
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Re: Soup search results

Post by Apple Bottom » December 3rd, 2016, 2:41 pm

A for awesome wrote:New xs39 in C1:

Second double queen bee oscillator in C1:

This is actually the smallest known (albeit trivial) p10 in terms of minimum bounding box:
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Re: Soup search results

Post by muzik » December 3rd, 2016, 3:59 pm

Another first of mine:

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x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
bobbobbbbobooobb$
bboobbooboooboob$
bobobobobobbboob$
boboboobooboobbo$
obooobooooboboob$
obobooobbobobboo$
boobbbobbbobooob$
oooooboobbbbbobo$
ooobbboobooobobb$
ooboobbbobobobbo$
oobbboooboooobob$
oooobboobobbobbb$
boooooobobbboobb$
obobbbbboobbbboo$
oobbbbboooobbbob$
obbbobbobobboobb!
Looks awkward to synthensize.

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Re: Soup search results

Post by AbhpzTa » December 3rd, 2016, 5:24 pm

muzik wrote:Another first of mine:

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x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
bobbobbbbobooobb$
bboobbooboooboob$
bobobobobobbboob$
boboboobooboobbo$
obooobooooboboob$
obobooobbobobboo$
boobbbobbbobooob$
oooooboobbbbbobo$
ooobbboobooobobb$
ooboobbbobobobbo$
oobbboooboooobob$
oooobboobobbobbb$
boooooobobbboobb$
obobbbbboobbbboo$
oobbbbboooobbbob$
obbbobbobobboobb!
Looks awkward to synthensize.
10 gliders:

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x = 124, y = 86, rule = B3/S23
99bo$98bo$98b3o19$72bo30bo4b2o$73bo28bobo2bobo$71b3o23b2o3bob4o$97bo2b
obobo2bobo$99b2ob2o4b2o4$34bo$29b2ob2o28bo$28bobo2b2o26bobo$30bo30b2o$
76bo$o76b2obo$b2ob2o26bo29bo9bo3b2o2bobo$2o2bobo24bobo27bobo7b2o7b2o$
4bo27b2o28b2o7bobo46$122b2o$121b2o$123bo!
100009436650194649 = 94649 * 1056634900001

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Re: Soup search results

Post by Apple Bottom » December 4th, 2016, 4:56 pm

New p29 pre-pulsar-shuttle variant in D8_1:

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x = 39, y = 39, rule = B3/S23
12bo13bo12b$12b3o9b3o12b$15bo7bo15b$14bobo5bobo14b$15bo7bo15b$39b$39b$
39b$39b$39b$39b$16bo5bo16b$2o13b3o3b3o13b2o$bo13b3o3b3o13bob$bobo31bob
ob$2bobo7b2o11b2o7bobo2b$3bo7b3o11b3o7bo3b$12b2o11b2o12b$39b$39b$39b$12b
2o11b2o12b$3bo7b3o11b3o7bo3b$2bobo7b2o11b2o7bobo2b$bobo31bobob$bo13b3o
3b3o13bob$2o13b3o3b3o13b2o$16bo5bo16b$39b$39b$39b$39b$39b$39b$15bo7bo15b$
14bobo5bobo14b$15bo7bo15b$12b3o9b3o12b$12bo13bo12b!
Soup:

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x = 31, y = 31, rule = B3/S23
oboobooooobobbobobboboooooboobo$
bbbbooboboooobobobooooboboobbbb$
oboboooobbboobbbbboobbboooobobo$
obbboooobobobbooobboboboooobbbo$
booobbooboooobbbbbooooboobbooob$
oooobobbobobobbbbbobobobboboooo$
obooobboboobbobobobboobobbooobo$
ooooobooobbobooooobobbooobooooo$
obbbbobobooboooboooboobobobbbbo$
ooboobobooboboobooboboobobooboo$
bobboooboboobbobobboobobooobbob$
ooooobbobooboobbbooboobobbooooo$
booboobbobbooboooboobbobbooboob$
bbbbbboooobobobbboboboooobbbbbb$
oobobbbooooboboboboboooobbboboo$
bbbobboobbbbobbbbbobbbboobbobbb$
oobobbbooooboboboboboooobbboboo$
bbbbbboooobobobbboboboooobbbbbb$
booboobbobbooboooboobbobbooboob$
ooooobbobooboobbbooboobobbooooo$
bobboooboboobbobobboobobooobbob$
ooboobobooboboobooboboobobooboo$
obbbbobobooboooboooboobobobbbbo$
ooooobooobbobooooobobbooobooooo$
obooobboboobbobobobboobobbooobo$
oooobobbobobobbbbbobobobboboooo$
booobbooboooobbbbbooooboobbooob$
obbboooobobobbooobboboboooobbbo$
oboboooobbboobbbbboobbboooobobo$
bbbbooboboooobobobooooboboobbbb$
oboobooooobobbobobboboooooboobo!
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Re: Soup search results

Post by mniemiec » December 4th, 2016, 6:31 pm

I thought this P4 oscillator had been synthesized before, but I can't find any record of it. It seems to come up in many soups. It came up again today with long boat stabilizers: http://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xp4 ... 1252/b3s23, which leads to a 34-glider synthesis with long boats, or 38 gliders with blocks. There are several ways to do the cleanup with 3 gliders per quadrant, but it's likely it can be done with 2 (or possibly even 1).

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x = 158, y = 130, rule = B3/S23
41bo$42boo20bo$41boo22bo$63b3o6$111bobo$111boo$112bo11$66bobo$66boo$
67bo7bo$74bo$62bobo4bo4b3o58boo$63boo4bobo63boo$63bo5boo$$73boo12bo$
72bobo10boo23bo$74bo11boo22bobo30bo$110boo30bobo11boo$90boo49bobo12boo
$89boo50boo$91bo$58bo26b3o53b4o$56bobo26bo54bo4bo$22boo33boo3b3o7boo
12bo48bo3bobooboboboo$bobo17bobbo37bo8bobbo7bo51bobobbo4bobobobo$bboo
17bobbo38bo7bobbo8bo51bobobobo4bobbobo$bbo19boo35bo12boo7b3o3boo47boob
oboboobo3bo$60bo26bobo50bo4bo$boo55b3o26bo53b4o$obo51bo$bbo52boo86boo$
54boo72boo12bobo$34boo92boo11bobo$33bobo22boo11bo70bo$35bo23boo10bobo$
58bo12boo$$75boo5bo$74bobo4boo66boo$69b3o4bo4bobo65boo$71bo$70bo7bo$
78boo$77bobo11$33bo$33boo$32bobo6$80b3o$80bo22boo$81bo20boo$104bo11$
14bo$12bobo$13boo$$15boo$15boo$$101bo$40bo58bobo$39bo60boo$23bo15b3o
21bo39bo$22bobo11boo24bobo37bobo$21bobo12boo23bobo37bobo37boo$21boo38b
oo38boo38boo$$21b4o36b4o36b4o8bo27b4o$20bo4bo34bo4bo34bo4bo6bo27bo4bo$
15bo3bobooboboboo25bo3bobooboboboo25bo3bobooboboboobb3o24bobooboboboo$
14bobobbo4bobobobo23bobobbo4bobobobo23bobobbo4bobobobo28bo4boboboo$15b
obobobo4bobbobo23bobobobo4bobbobo23bobobobo4bobbobo24boobobo4bo$16boob
oboboobo3bo25booboboboobo3bo20b3obbooboboboobo3bo25booboboboobo$20bo4b
o34bo4bo27bo6bo4bo34bo4bo$21b4o36b4o27bo8b4o36b4o$$23boo38boo38boo38b
oo$8boo12bobo37bobo37bobo38boo$8boo11bobo37bobo37bobo$4b3o15bo39bo39bo
$6bo97boo$5bo98bobo$104bo$$29boo$29boo$$31boo$31bobo$31bo!

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Re: Soup search results

Post by thunk » December 4th, 2016, 11:09 pm

p7 haul (thunk) recovers an oscillator in jslife.
However, a stator reduction is immediately obvious.

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x = 21, y = 26, rule = B3/S23
6bob2ob2obo$6b2obobob2o2$6b3o3b3o$5bo3bobo3bo$5b3obobob3o$3b2o4bobo4b
2o$2bobob2o5b2obobo$3bo2bo7bo2bo$6bobo3bobo$7b2o3b2o4$5b2obo3bob2o$5bo
b2o3b2obo2$6b3o3b3o$5bo3bobo3bo$5b3obobob3o$bob2o4bobo4b2obo$b2obob2o
5b2obob2o$4bobo7bobo$4bobo7bobo$5bo9bo!
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Re: Soup search results

Post by Scorbie » December 5th, 2016, 2:18 am

Great to see that in catagolue.
Here's a reduction in bounding box with the same population.

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x = 15, y = 11, rule = B3/S23
3bob2ob2obo$3b2obobob2o2$3b3o3b3o$2bo3bobo3bo$2b3obobob3o$2o4bobo4b2o$
bob2o5b2obo$o2bo7bo2bo$2o3bo3bo3b2o$4b2o3b2o!

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Re: Soup search results

Post by AbhpzTa » December 5th, 2016, 2:02 pm

mniemiec wrote:I thought this P4 oscillator had been synthesized before, but I can't find any record of it. It seems to come up in many soups. It came up again today with long boat stabilizers: http://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xp4 ... 1252/b3s23, which leads to a 34-glider synthesis with long boats, or 38 gliders with blocks. There are several ways to do the cleanup with 3 gliders per quadrant, but it's likely it can be done with 2 (or possibly even 1).

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x = 158, y = 130, rule = B3/S23
41bo$42boo20bo$41boo22bo$63b3o6$111bobo$111boo$112bo11$66bobo$66boo$
67bo7bo$74bo$62bobo4bo4b3o58boo$63boo4bobo63boo$63bo5boo$$73boo12bo$
72bobo10boo23bo$74bo11boo22bobo30bo$110boo30bobo11boo$90boo49bobo12boo
$89boo50boo$91bo$58bo26b3o53b4o$56bobo26bo54bo4bo$22boo33boo3b3o7boo
12bo48bo3bobooboboboo$bobo17bobbo37bo8bobbo7bo51bobobbo4bobobobo$bboo
17bobbo38bo7bobbo8bo51bobobobo4bobbobo$bbo19boo35bo12boo7b3o3boo47boob
oboboobo3bo$60bo26bobo50bo4bo$boo55b3o26bo53b4o$obo51bo$bbo52boo86boo$
54boo72boo12bobo$34boo92boo11bobo$33bobo22boo11bo70bo$35bo23boo10bobo$
58bo12boo$$75boo5bo$74bobo4boo66boo$69b3o4bo4bobo65boo$71bo$70bo7bo$
78boo$77bobo11$33bo$33boo$32bobo6$80b3o$80bo22boo$81bo20boo$104bo11$
14bo$12bobo$13boo$$15boo$15boo$$101bo$40bo58bobo$39bo60boo$23bo15b3o
21bo39bo$22bobo11boo24bobo37bobo$21bobo12boo23bobo37bobo37boo$21boo38b
oo38boo38boo$$21b4o36b4o36b4o8bo27b4o$20bo4bo34bo4bo34bo4bo6bo27bo4bo$
15bo3bobooboboboo25bo3bobooboboboo25bo3bobooboboboobb3o24bobooboboboo$
14bobobbo4bobobobo23bobobbo4bobobobo23bobobbo4bobobobo28bo4boboboo$15b
obobobo4bobbobo23bobobobo4bobbobo23bobobobo4bobbobo24boobobo4bo$16boob
oboboobo3bo25booboboboobo3bo20b3obbooboboboobo3bo25booboboboobo$20bo4b
o34bo4bo27bo6bo4bo34bo4bo$21b4o36b4o27bo8b4o36b4o$$23boo38boo38boo38b
oo$8boo12bobo37bobo37bobo38boo$8boo11bobo37bobo37bobo$4b3o15bo39bo39bo
$6bo97boo$5bo98bobo$104bo$$29boo$29boo$$31boo$31bobo$31bo!
22G(with longboats) or 26G(with blocks):

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x = 228, y = 102, rule = B3/S23
47bo$45bobo$46b2o3$140bo$139bo$139b3o4$125bobo$125b2o$126bo$51bo$52b2o
$51b2o15$90bo$91bo$89b3o4$90b2o$89bobo$91bo97bo$187bobo$188b2o$84b3o
74bo29bo$86bo73bobo27bobo$85bo13bo59bobo27bobo27b2o$97bobo59b2o28b2o
28b2o$98b2o$159b4o26b4o8bo17b4o$5bo152bo4bo24bo4bo6bo17bo4bo$o3bo25b2o
58b2o11bo4bo44bo3bob2obobob2o15bo3bob2obobob2o2b3o14bob2obobob2o$b2ob
3o22bo2bo39b2o3b3o9bo2bo11bo3bobo41bobo2bo4bobobobo13bobo2bo4bobobobo
18bo4bobob2o$2o27bo2bo38bobo3bo11bo2bo9b3o3b2o43bobobobo4bo2bobo13bobo
bobo4bo2bobo14b2obobo4bo$30b2o41bo4bo11b2o62b2obobob2obo3bo10b3o2b2obo
bob2obo3bo15b2obobob2obo$158bo4bo17bo6bo4bo24bo4bo$159b4o17bo8b4o26b4o
$82b2o$82bobo76b2o28b2o28b2o$82bo13bo63bobo27bobo28b2o$95bo63bobo27bob
o$95b3o62bo29bo$192b2o$192bobo$90bo101bo$90bobo$90b2o4$90b3o$90bo$91bo
15$129b2o$128b2o$130bo$55bo$55b2o$54bobo4$40b3o$42bo$41bo3$134b2o$134b
obo$134bo!
100009436650194649 = 94649 * 1056634900001

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Re: Soup search results

Post by praosylen » December 5th, 2016, 6:17 pm

New variant of a known p4 in D4_+4:

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x = 32, y = 32, rule = B3/S23
obobbbbobbobobboobbobobbobbbbobo$
obbobbooobooooobbooooobooobbobbo$
boobobooboobooboobooboobooboboob$
oboobbooobbbooobbooobbbooobboobo$
bobbboobooobobobboboboooboobbbob$
obooobboboobooobboooboobobbooobo$
bboooooboooooooooooooooobooooobb$
bobbooobboobooboobooboobbooobbob$
bbobobbbboboooboobooobobbbbobobb$
bbbobbobboboobbbbbboobobbobbobbb$
obobobobooboboobbooboboobobobobo$
booboboobobbboobboobbbobooboboob$
bbobbobbobooboobbooboobobbobbobb$
boooooobbobbooobbooobbobboooooob$
bobboobobooobbobbobboooboboobbob$
boobobboboobbbboobbbboobobboboob$
boobobboboobbbboobbbboobobboboob$
bobboobobooobbobbobboooboboobbob$
boooooobbobbooobbooobbobboooooob$
bbobbobbobooboobbooboobobbobbobb$
booboboobobbboobboobbbobooboboob$
obobobobooboboobbooboboobobobobo$
bbbobbobboboobbbbbboobobbobbobbb$
bbobobbbboboooboobooobobbbbobobb$
bobbooobboobooboobooboobbooobbob$
bboooooboooooooooooooooobooooobb$
obooobboboobooobboooboobobbooobo$
bobbboobooobobobboboboooboobbbob$
oboobbooobbbooobbooobbbooobboobo$
boobobooboobooboobooboobooboboob$
obbobbooobooooobbooooobooobbobbo$
obobbbbobbobobboobbobobbobbbbobo!
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Re: Soup search results

Post by yootaa » December 7th, 2016, 6:17 am

New p4:

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x = 32, y = 32, rule = B3/S23
ob3ob3ob2ob2o$b2obob3o2b3o$b3obobo2bobob2o$o2bobobob3obobo$o3b4o2b3o$
2b2o3bobo3b2o$b3o2b2o5b3o$5b6o2b2o$bo2bobobo4bobo$2o2bobobo2bo2bo$2b2o
2bobob3o2bo$2bo3b3o2bob3o$2o2b3obo2bobobo$2obo3b3o3bo$8obo5bo$4b2o3bob
ob3o$16b3obobo3b2o$16bo5bob8o$18bo3b3o3bob2o$16bobobo2bob3o2b2o$16b3ob
o2b3o3bo$16bo2b3obobo2b2o$17bo2bo2bobobo2b2o$16bobo4bobobo2bo$17b2o2b
6o$16b3o5b2o2b3o$17b2o3bobo3b2o$19b3o2b4o3bo$16bobob3obobobo2bo$16b2ob
obo2bobob3o$18b3o2b3obob2o$17b2ob2ob3ob3obo!

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x = 40, y = 42, rule = B3/S23
b3o8$14bo$13b3o$12b5o13bo$11b2o3b2o12bo$10b2o5b2o11bo$11b2o3b2o$12bo3b
o3$bo$obo$obo22b3o$bo$38bo$12b3o22bobo$37bobo$38bo3$23bo3bo$22b2o3b2o$
9bo11b2o5b2o$9bo12b2o3b2o$9bo13b5o$24b3o$25bo8$36b3o!

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Re: Soup search results

Post by muzik » December 8th, 2016, 7:35 am

A for awesome wrote:New variant of a known p4 in D4_+4:

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x = 32, y = 32, rule = B3/S23
apgcode y u so long
Assuming this known p4 is an emulator?

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Re: Soup search results

Post by mniemiec » December 8th, 2016, 11:15 am

yootaa wrote:New p4: ...[/code]
Here is a crude implementation from 32 gliders. The cleanup can likely be substantially improved:

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x = 335, y = 205, rule = B3/S23
107bo$108boo$107boo42$202bo$203boo$202boo$206bobo$206boo$207bo5$316boo
$15bo300boo$14bo$14b3o$12bo284boo$10bobo284bobo$11boo285bo$187bo$65bo
109bo12boo139boo$65bo109bo11boo123boo15boo$65bo109bo136boo$191bo$15bo
175bobo108bo$16bo174boo108bobo$14b3o28bo254bo19b3o$44bo49bo109bo94boo
bbo$12boo30b3o46bobo107bobo71b3o19bo$3bo7bobo54b3o22bobo82b3o22bobo84b
oo10b3o$4bo8bo33b3o44bo109bo85boo11b3o$bb3o33bo8bo9bo109bo138b3o11boo$
38bobo7bo7bobo22b3o82bobo22b3o113b3o10boo$5b3o30boo16bobo107bobo143bo
19b3o$7bo49bo109bo140bobboo$6bo28b3o251b3o19bo$35bo143boo127bobo$36bo
141bobo128bo$180bo$86bo109bo101boo$86bo96boo11bo84boo15boo$86bo95boo
12bo84boo$184bo$39boo272bo$39bobo270bobo$39bo273boo$35b3o$37bo$36bo
257boo$294boo5$164bo$164boo$163bobo$168boo$167boo$169bo42$263boo$262b
oo$264bo16$68bo$67bo$67b3o$46boo68boo44bo3boo$obo43boo68boo45booboo$b
oo159boo$bo$27boo$27bobo$28bo91boo48boo$120boo48boo$59boo$42boo15boo
51boo48boo$42boo68boo48boo$$32bo69bo49bo39bo$31bobo67bobo13boo32bobo
13boo22bobo$30bo19b3o47bo16boo31bo16boo21bo$29boobbo65boobbo45boobbo
16b3o16boobbo$7b3o5bobo11bo69bo49bo20bo18bo$16boobboo10b3o67b3o47b3o
16bo20b3o$16bo3boo11b3o67b3o47b3o37b3o$36b3o11boo3bo50b3o47b3o37b3o$
37b3o10boobboo51b3o30bo16b3o37b3o$42bo11bobo5b3o47bo28bo20bo39bo$38bo
bboo65bobboo26b3o16bobboo35bobboo$19b3o19bo51boo16bo31boo16bo39bo$38bo
bo52boo13bobo32boo13bobo37bobo$39bo69bo49bo39bo$$28boo68boo48boo$11boo
15boo68boo48boo$11boo$90boo48boo$43bo46boo48boo$42bobo$43boo$70bo$69b
oo77boo$24boo43bobo22boo48booboo$24boo68boo48boo3bo$bb3o$4bo$3bo!

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Re: Soup search results

Post by praosylen » December 8th, 2016, 5:37 pm

muzik wrote:
A for awesome wrote:New variant of a known p4 in D4_+4:

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x = 32, y = 32, rule = B3/S23
apgcode [sic] y u so long
Assuming this known p4 is an emulator?
No, actually.
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