## Soup search results

For discussion of specific patterns or specific families of patterns, both newly-discovered and well-known.

### Re: Soup search results

Removed two cells, should preserve lifespan.
x = 20, y = 20, rule = B3/S23o2bob2o2bobo2bo$2o2b2ob3obob2o2b3o$b2o2bo3bob6o$2obo4b4obo3b2o$obob2obo2b2o2b5o$b2ob3ob4o2b2ob3o$b2o6bo2b5ob2o$bo6bobob3obo2bo$o3bob3ob3o3bobo$b2o2b2obob3o$b4o3bo4b2obo$2o2b6obo5bobo$bob3ob3obobo4bo$obobobobo3b3o3b2o$2obobob2o3b2ob4o$ob2ob2o6bobo2bo$o3b2ob2ob2obo4bo$7o6bo4bo$2b2obo7b2o2b3o$o3b3o6b3o2bo! wwei23 Posts: 935 Joined: May 22nd, 2017, 6:14 pm Location: The (Life?) Universe ### Re: Soup search results wwei23 wrote:Removed two cells, should preserve lifespan. x = 20, y = 20, rule = B3/S23o2bob2o2bobo2bo$2o2b2ob3obob2o2b3o$b2o2bo3bob6o$2obo4b4obo3b2o$obob2obo2b2o2b5o$b2ob3ob4o2b2ob3o$b2o6bo2b5ob2o$bo6bobob3obo2bo$o3bob3ob3o3bobo$b2o2b2obob3o$b4o3bo4b2obo$2o2b6obo5bobo$bob3ob3obobo4bo$obobobobo3b3o3b2o$2obobob2o3b2ob4o$ob2ob2o6bobo2bo$o3b2ob2ob2obo4bo$7o6bo4bo$2b2obo7b2o2b3o$o3b3o6b3o2bo!

Down another cell:
x = 20, y = 20, rule = B3/S23o2bob2o2bobo2bo$2o2b2ob3obob2o2b3o$b2o2bo3bob6o$2obo4b4obo3b2o$obob2obo2b2o2b3obo$b2ob3ob4o2b2ob3o$b2o6bo2b5ob2o$bo6bobob3obo2bo$o3bob3ob3o3bobo$b2o2b2obob3o$b4o3bo4b2obo$2o2b6obo5bobo$bob3ob3obobo4bo$obobobobo3b3o3b2o$2obobob2o3b2ob4o$ob2ob2o6bobo2bo$o3b2ob2ob2obo4bo$7o6bo4bo$2b2obo7b2o2b3o$o3b3o6b3o2bo! x₁=ηx V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη) K=(Λu²)/2 Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt) $$x_1=\eta x$$ $$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$ $$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$ $$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$ http://conwaylife.com/wiki/A_for_all Aidan F. Pierce A for awesome Posts: 1809 Joined: September 13th, 2014, 5:36 pm Location: 0x-1 ### Re: Soup search results A for awesome wrote: wwei23 wrote:Removed two cells, should preserve lifespan. RLE Down another cell: RLE And 4 more: x = 20, y = 20, rule = B3/S23o2bob2o2bobo2bo$2o2b2ob3obob2o2b3o$b2o2bo3bob6o$2obo4b4obo3b2o$obob2obo2b2o2b3obo$b2ob3ob4o2b2ob3o$b2o6bo2b5ob2o$bo6bobob3obo2bo$o3bob3ob3o3bobo$b2o2b2obob3o$b4o3bo4b2obo$2o2b6obo5bobo$bob3ob3obobo4bo$obobobobo3b3o3b2o$bobobob2o3b2ob4o$2b2ob2o6bobo2bo$4b2ob2ob2obo4bo$b6o6bo4bo$2b2obo7b2o2b3o$o3b3o6b3o2bo!
Things to work on:
- Find a (7,1)c/8 ship in a Non-totalistic rule (someone please search the rules)
- Find a C/10 in JustFriends
- Find a C/10 in Day and Night
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### Re: Soup search results

Here's the minimal population 20 by 20 pattern that agrees after one generation (population 149):
x = 20, y = 20, rule = B3/S23bobob2o6bo$2obob2ob3ob3o2b3o$b2o2bo6b5o$bobo4b4o5b2o$b2ob2obob3o2bobobo$b2ob3o3bo7b2o$bo6bobo6b3o$b2o5bo7bob2o$o4bo3bobo5bo$obo2bobo6b2obo$bo7bo6bo$3o8b2ob4o$b2o11bo2bobo$2o6bobo5bo2bo$o2bo4bobobo3bobo$o5b2o4bo3bo$2ob5obo4bo3b2o$ob4o3bo3bo4bo$3b2o2bo5b2o2b3o$2o2b3o6b3o2bo! Macbi Posts: 668 Joined: March 29th, 2009, 4:58 am ### Re: Soup search results Macbi wrote:Here's the minimal population 20 by 20 pattern that agrees after one generation (population 149): x = 20, y = 20, rule = B3/S23bobob2o6bo$2obob2ob3ob3o2b3o$b2o2bo6b5o$bobo4b4o5b2o$b2ob2obob3o2bobobo$b2ob3o3bo7b2o$bo6bobo6b3o$b2o5bo7bob2o$o4bo3bobo5bo$obo2bobo6b2obo$bo7bo6bo$3o8b2ob4o$b2o11bo2bobo$2o6bobo5bo2bo$o2bo4bobobo3bobo$o5b2o4bo3bo$2ob5obo4bo3b2o$ob4o3bo3bo4bo$3b2o2bo5b2o2b3o$2o2b3o6b3o2bo!

Very cool Macbi. Can you point me to an automated way of finding the minimal parent pattern? I have an additional (300) 20x20 random patterns with lifespan 25K+ which I would like to compare visually.
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### Re: Soup search results

rliston wrote:Can you point me to an automated way of finding the minimal parent pattern? I have an additional (300) 20x20 random patterns with lifespan 25K+ which I would like to compare visually.

Well I guess you could try every possible pattern within bounding box -1,-1,x+1,y+1 (where 0,0,x,y, are the positions of the original bounding box’s corners), if gen 1 of the tested pattern is the target, add it to the list of parents, and take the lowest population of those
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### Re: Soup search results

First apgmethuselah (meth_25k) to someone besides apgoucher somehow goes to me:

x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23obbooboobboobbbo$oooboboobbbbbbob$bboobooobbbobbbb$obbbbobobobooobo$bobobobooboboooo$oooooboobbboobbb$bobbbobbbobboboo$bbbbbbbbbobooooo$bboobobooobobboo$booooboboooboboo$booobobooooobobo$obbbbbbooobobobb$oobobbboobboooob$oobbbbbbbbobbooo$obbboooobbbobobo$bbbbbbbbobbobooo! It lasts 26,239 generations and produces a twinhat at (-62,-112) starting around generation 20,936, using this predecessor: x = 13, y = 10, rule = B3/S23o$o$o2$2b3o2$o9b2o$o9bobo$o9bobo$11bo!

I'm assuming that is well-known.

And then another meth_25k which lasts 26255 and produces a carrier at (-93,-112) generation 18317:
x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23oooobobboooooboo$obbbobooboboobob$ooooooooooobobbb$bobboobobbbbobbb$bobbboobbooooobb$bbbboooobbbbbbob$obobbbbbbboobbbb$oboboooooboooobb$bbbbboooboooobbo$oooobobobbbboobo$bbobobbbobboboob$booboobooobobooo$boobobbooboboobo$bboobbbbbobobooo$obobbobbbobobobo$oooooobbbooobbbo! she/they // Please stop using my full name. Refer to me as dani. "I'm always on duty, even when I'm off duty." -Cody Kolodziejzyk, Ph.D. danny Posts: 946 Joined: October 27th, 2017, 3:43 pm Location: New Jersey, USA ### Re: Soup search results danny wrote:It lasts 26,239 generations and produces a twinhat at (-62,-112) starting around generation 20,936, using this predecessor: x = 13, y = 10, rule = B3/S23o$o$o2$2b3o2$o9b2o$o9bobo$o9bobo$11bo!

I'm assuming that is well-known.

6G:

x = 46, y = 42, rule = B3/S23bo$2bo34bo$3o32b2o$36b2o2$6bobo$7b2o5bobo$7bo7b2o$15bo4$4b2o$3bobo$5bo6$14b2o$15b2o$14bo17$43b3o$43bo$44bo!

EDIT: That's actually seven.

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### Re: Soup search results

Redstoneboi wrote:
rliston wrote:Can you point me to an automated way of finding the minimal parent pattern? I have an additional (300) 20x20 random patterns with lifespan 25K+ which I would like to compare visually.

Well I guess you could try every possible pattern within bounding box -1,-1,x+1,y+1 (where 0,0,x,y, are the positions of the original bounding box’s corners), if gen 1 of the tested pattern is the target, add it to the list of parents, and take the lowest population of those

Don't actually do that though.
A) I suspect only parents inside 20x20 are of interest
B) there are 2^400 possible patterns to evaluate.

There are several options for automated searching. Macbi probably used logic life search which is a python frontend to an SAT solver. This seems to be the current best search method for predecessor searching. LLS has an option to set a maximum population, so the search won't be completely automated - you need to rerun the search with successively lower population bounds.

There are also GUI programs which can do these searches: "win life search" and "java life search". These are probably easier to use (particularly JLS which allows pasting rle patterns). For this size search I think they'll be quite a bit slower and you would likely need to take particular care with the search order to get a result in a reasonable time
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### Re: Soup search results

rliston wrote:Found this 20x20 soup with lifespan 39693 after searching ~23B patterns using my own FPGA-based search engine...

Here's a 20x20 pattern that shares its third generation with rliston's pattern's second generation. This means it has a lifespan of 39694 (no longer a pallendrome). Also, it's population is 140, but I'm pretty certain it can still be lowered. I found it with LLS:

x = 20, y = 20, rule = B3/S23bobobobob2o7b2o$b5o6b3obo$o8bo3bo4bo$4bo5bo5b2o$obobo2bobo2bobo4bo$2b3o2b2obo2b3o2bo$6bob2obo5b2o$obo7bobo5bo$o4bo3bo3b2ob3o$bo3bobobob2ob3o$b2obo9b2o$2bo2bobo3bobo4b2o$3b2obob5o5b2o$b2o10bo4bo$2o5bobobo3b3o$o3bob2o3bobo3bo$2obo5bo4b4o$b2o3bo3bo4b2obo$4b2o6bob2ob2o$bo3b2obo5bo4bo! Goldtiger997 Posts: 517 Joined: June 21st, 2016, 8:00 am Location: 11.329903°N 142.199305°E ### Re: Soup search results If this new methuselah was found after searching only 23 billion soups then it shouldn't take long at all for the new apgsearch to find a new record. If I'm reading the charts correctly, the Catagolue receives more than that many soups every day. Macbi Posts: 668 Joined: March 29th, 2009, 4:58 am ### Re: Soup search results Macbi wrote:If this new methuselah was found after searching only 23 billion soups then it shouldn't take long at all for the new apgsearch to find a new record. If I'm reading the charts correctly, the Catagolue receives more than that many soups every day. The charts are in objects, rather than soups -- 23 billion soups corresponds to about 500 billion objects. What do you do with ill crystallographers? Take them to the mono-clinic! calcyman Posts: 2031 Joined: June 1st, 2009, 4:32 pm ### Re: Soup search results I see. So at current search rates it should take about a week. Macbi Posts: 668 Joined: March 29th, 2009, 4:58 am ### Re: Soup search results Macbi wrote:I see. So at current search rates it should take about a week. Yes, assuming that 16x16 soups are as likely to yield methuselahs as 20x20 soups. (I expect that's not the case, but that the ratio of the probabilities is still relatively small.) What do you do with ill crystallographers? Take them to the mono-clinic! calcyman Posts: 2031 Joined: June 1st, 2009, 4:32 pm ### Re: Soup search results Macbi wrote:I see. So at current search rates it should take about a week. That's also assuming everyone is actually reporting the methuselahs they find, which they're not. As far as I can tell none of the "main" searchers have updated to v4.55 yet. Ian07 Posts: 213 Joined: September 22nd, 2018, 8:48 am ### Re: Soup search results Ian07 wrote:That's also assuming everyone is actually reporting the methuselahs they find, which they're not. As far as I can tell none of the "main" searchers have updated to v4.55 yet. (Mine have, but I'm only searching D8_1 at the moment.) And just to make this post a little less pointless, allow me to observe that D8_1 has not just surpassed 10 trillion objects but also overtaken b38s23/C1 and become the second most-searched rule/symmetry combination, in terms of total objects censused. (I remember looking at the D8_1 census back in mid-2015 -- Catagolue was still largely fed by apgsearch 1.x at the time --, marveling at Beluchenko's p37 and p51, and thinking how unlikely I'd ever be to see either of those myself. The times, they are a-changin'...) If you speak, your speech must be better than your silence would have been. — Arabian proverb Catagolue: Apple Bottom • Life Wiki: Apple Bottom • Twitter: @_AppleBottom_ Proud member of the Pattern Raiders! Apple Bottom Posts: 1024 Joined: July 27th, 2015, 2:06 pm ### Re: Soup search results wildmyron wrote:There are also GUI programs which can do these searches: "win life search" and "java life search". These are probably easier to use (particularly JLS which allows pasting rle patterns). For this size search I think they'll be quite a bit slower and you would likely need to take particular care with the search order to get a result in a reasonable time... Just for the record, here's the actual JavaLifeSearch link. WinLifeSearch and a pile of other search software can be found at the bottom of the Game of Life Links thread. dvgrn Moderator Posts: 5634 Joined: May 17th, 2009, 11:00 pm Location: Madison, WI ### Re: Soup search results dvgrn wrote:Just for the record, here's the actual JavaLifeSearch link. WinLifeSearch and a pile of other search software can be found at the bottom of the Game of Life Links thread. As well as on the wiki. If you speak, your speech must be better than your silence would have been. — Arabian proverb Catagolue: Apple Bottom • Life Wiki: Apple Bottom • Twitter: @_AppleBottom_ Proud member of the Pattern Raiders! Apple Bottom Posts: 1024 Joined: July 27th, 2015, 2:06 pm ### Re: Soup search results There are a several unsolved P2s that show up in Catagolue soups, and that lead to syntheses or potential syntheses. The 4th soup from https://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xp ... 2z01/b3s23 gives this 20-glider synthesis of 18P2.338. The 2nd soup from https://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xp ... x111/b3s23 gives a potential path to 18P2.358. The 4th soup from https://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xp ... gb0s/b3s23 gives a potential path to 18P2.378 plus much toxic junk (see generation 29). x = 256, y = 98, rule = B3/S2357bo$9bo47bobo170bo$9bobo45boo171bobo$9boo44bo26bo147boo$7bo8bo36bobo26bobo10boo24boo12boo24boo35bo29bo$5bobo7bo11boo6bo18boo11boo6bo6boo10bobbo9boo6bo5boo11bobbo9boo6bo5boo34bobo27bobo$6boo7b3o8bobbo4bobo29bobbo4bobo8boo8boo9bobbo4bobo14boobboo9bobbo4bobo29bo3bo6bobo16bo3bo6bobo16bo3bo$27boo5bobo30boo5bobo8bobo19boo5bobo13bobo14boo5bobo29bo3bobo5bo17bo3bobo5bo17bo3bobo$18b3o14bo39bo9bo29bo16bo22bo29bobbo26bobbo26bobbo$bo16bo174boo28boo28boo$bbo16bo166boo28boo28boo$3o22bo29bo9bo39bo39bo22bo23bobbo26bobbo26bobbo$24bobo5boo19bobo8bobo5boo30bobo5boo30bobo5boo14bobo11bo5bobo3bo17bo5bobo3bo23bobo3bo$3b3o7boo9bobo4bobbo19boo8bobo4bobbo29bobo4bobbo9boo18bobo4bobbo9boobboo11bobo6bo3bo16bobo6bo3bo25bo3bo$5bo7bobo9bo6boo23boo6bo6boo11boo11boo5bo6boo9bobbo11boo5bo6boo9bobbo14bobo27bobo$4bo8bo42bobo26bobo10boo24boo12boo24boo16bo29bo$10boo46bo26bo123boo$9bobo70boo124bobo$11bo69bobo126bo$83bo12$5bo$5bo$bbobbo$3bo$bboo$4o$$12boo43bo11bobbo40bobo12boo39bo5bobo53bo7bobo53bobo7bo3boo50bobo5bobbobbo53bobo3boo54bo$$13b4o$13boo$13bo$11bobbo$11bo$11bo21$58bo$56booboo5b3o$56bobboo4bobbo$55bo3bo5b3o$60b6o$9bo46bobobob3o$9bo50boobo$ooboo4bo5bo45bo$o3bo9b3o38boo3bo$b3o10bobbo10bo26b3o10b3o$b3o22bobbo24bo$11boo13boobo24bo6boo3boobo$3boo6boo6boo6boo25bo6bo8bo6bo$bboboo13boo41boboo3boo6bo$bbobbo22b3o46bo$3bo10bobbo10b3o30b3o10b3o$15b3o9bo3bo39bo3boo$16bo5bo4booboo38bo$22bo45boboo$22bo44b3obobobo$66b6o$64b3o5bo3bo$63bobbo4boobbo$63b3o5booboo$73bo!

The only soup from https://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xp ... 0ago/b3s23 gives a synthesis of 18P2.395 (28 gliders plus massive cleanup TBD).
x = 268, y = 140, rule = B3/S23bbo$obo30bo49bo49bo49bo49bo$boo29bobo47bobo47bobo47bobo47bobo$14bo17bobo47bobo47bobo47bobo47bobo$12boo19bo49bo49bo49bo49bo$13boo63bo$37boo40bo7boo40bo7boo40bo7boo40bo7boo$15bo20bobbo37b3o6bobbo38bobo5bobbo38bobo5bobbo38bobo5bobbo$14boo21boo48boo39bobo6boo39bobo6boo39bobo6boo$14bobo57b3o52bo49bo49bo$33bo42bo6bo49bo49bo49bo$32bobo40bo6bobo47bobo47bobo47bobo$32bobo47bobo47bobo47bobo47bobo$33bo49bo49bo49bo49bo$186bo$186bobo$186boo$183boo47boo$183bobo46boo$156bo26bo$154bobo49boo$155boo49boo$152boo$151bobo$153bo$106bo49bo49bo$105bobo47bobo4b4o39bobo$105bobo47bobo4bo3bo38bobo$106bo49bo5bo43bo$53bobo107bobbo43bo$54boo45boo48boo7boo39boo6bobo$54bo45bobbo46bobbo6bobo37bobbo5bobo$101boo48boo7bo40boo7bo$55boo$56boo48bo49bo49bo$55bo49bobo47bobo47bobo$67boo36bobo47bobo47bobo$67bobo36bo49bo49bo$67bo21$208boo$208boo4$206boo$206bobo7boo$189boo16bo8boo$172boo15boo19bo$172boo36bo$210bo$$206b3o3b3o$$192boo16bo$191bobo16bo46boo$192bo17bo6bo39boo$217bo43boo$217bo43bobo$262bo$195boo16b3o$195boo$83bo$82bobo$82bobo176boo$62bo20bo107bo29bo38bobo$61bo117bo10bobo5bo21bobo8bo29bo$61b3o4bo10bo7boo90bo10bobo5bo9b3o9bobo7bobo$59bo7bo10bobo5bobbo89bo11bo6bo22bo7bobbo$60bo6b3o8bobo6boo141boo$58b3o4bo13bo95b3o3b3o10b3o$66bo16bo170bo$64b3o15bobo94bo62bo11bo$82bobo94bo62bo11bo$69bo13bo95bo62bo$70boo$69boo144boo$72b3o140bo$72bo9boo132bobo37boo$73bo8boo171bobo$159bobobo19bo31b3oboob3o31bo$56boo8bo115bobo$56boo9bo114boo37bobo$65b3o156bo$69boo152boo$68boo$56bo13bo126bo62bo$55bobo127bo11bo62bo$55bobo15b3o109bo11bo62bo$56bo16bo111bo$60bo13bo4b3o161b3o10b3o3b3o$51boo6bobo8b3o6bo128boo$50bobbo5bobo10bo7bo126bobbo7bo22bo6bo11bo$51boo7bo10bo4b3o128bobo7bobo9b3o9bo5bobo10bo$78bo99bo29bo8bobo21bo5bobo10bo$56bo20bo99bobo38bo29bo$55bobo119boo$55bobo$56bo$243boo$224b3o16boo$177bo$176bobo43bo$177boo43bo$181boo39bo6bo17bo$181boo46bo16bobo$229bo16boo$$225b3o3b3o$$229bo$229bo36boo$229bo19boo15boo$222boo8bo16boo$222boo7bobo$232boo4$230boo$230boo! There are also a few others that I couldn't find workable predecessors from: 7 soups for 18P2.253: https://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xp ... 0307/b3s23 2 soups for 18P2.444: https://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xp ... 0p0e/b3s23 Also, 1 soup for 24P4.1: https://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xp ... 5011/b3s23 (Also, while editing this, I found a bug in LiveViewer: If you enter an invalid rule, you can't bring up the popup menu, which means you can't close the LifeViewer if it's taller than the screen; the only recourse is to click on a LifeViewer attached to another valid pattern on the page, and then close that). EDIT: The above 18P2.395 synthesis can be cleaned up with 20 gilders, for a total of 48; I'm sure the cleanup can be improved. x = 217, y = 81, rule = B3/S2340boo$40boo$188bo$34bo153bobo$35boo151boo$bo32boobboo$bbo35bobo7boo78boo38boo$3o18boo16bo8boo78boo38boo$4boo15boo19bo$4boo36bo$42bo$$38b3o3b3o20bo21bobboo16bo19b3obobo16bo46boo24bo17bo6bo39boo38bo39bo49bo43boo34bo39bo49bo43bobo33bo31bobo5bo94bo67boo27boo16b3o77b3o34bobb3o27boo100bo99bo77bo93boo4b3o74bo23bo29bo35bobbobo38bo39bobb3o3bobo5bo10bobo5bo21bobo8bo26bobbo38bobo8bo28bobo8bo4boo5bo10bobo5bo9b3o9bobo7bobo23b3o29b3o9bobo7bobo15b3o9bobo7bobo4bo6bo11bo6bo22bo7bobbo68bo7bobbo28bo7bobbo62boo78boo38boo7b3o3b3o10b3o86bo11bo62bo11bo11bo62bo11bo11bo62bo$$47boo34bobo41boo38boo38boo$47bo36boo41bo39bo39bo$48bobo33bo3boo38bobo37bobo37bobo$87bobo$15bo31b3oboob3o31bo38b3oboob3o30b3oboob3o30b3oboob3o$14bobo$14boo3bo33bobo77bobo37bobo37bobo$18boo36bo79bo39bo39bo$18bobo34boo78boo38boo38boo$$29bo62bo17bo11bo62bo17bo11bo62bo17bo75b3o10b3o3b3o40boo78boo38boo39bobbo7bo22bo6bo11bo6bo19bobbo7bo28bobbo7bo13b3o23bobo7bobo9b3o9bo5bobo10bo5boo19bobo7bobo9b3o15bobo7bobo9b3o10bobbo26bo8bobo21bo5bobo10bo5bobo19bo8bobo28bo8bobo9bobobbo35bo29bo49bo34b3obbobb3o4boo156bo4bo161bo3bo75boo56b3o16boo59b3o37b3obbo9bo170boo8bobo43bo79bo39bo5bobo9boo43bo79bo39bo13boo39bo6bo17bo54bo39bo13boo46bo16bobob3o61bo16boobbo83bo57b3o3b3o$$61bo$61bo36boo$61bo19boo15boo$54boo8bo16boo18b3o30boo38boo$54boo7bobo35bo32boo38boo$64boobboo32bo$67boo85boo$69bo83bobo$155bo$62boo$62boo! Last edited by mniemiec on October 31st, 2018, 10:18 am, edited 1 time in total. mniemiec Posts: 1022 Joined: June 1st, 2013, 12:00 am ### Re: Soup search results mniemiec wrote:(Also, while editing this, I found a bug in LiveViewer: If you enter an invalid rule, you can't bring up the popup menu, which means you can't close the LifeViewer if it's taller than the screen; the only recourse is to click on a LifeViewer attached to another valid pattern on the page, and then close that). Pressing "Esc" will close a popup LifeViewer on a device with a keyboard. rowett Moderator Posts: 1400 Joined: January 31st, 2013, 2:34 am Location: UK ### Re: Soup search results Heavpoot has found the first 30k+ generation methuselah on Catagolue: x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23bobbbbbobbobooob$oobboboboobbooob$obobbobooobbbbbo$ooobobooboobbbbo$boobobobbbbbobbo$obobooboobobbooo$bbobbobbbbbbbobb$oobbbbbbooboobob$oobboobbbbbooboo$obboboooobobobbb$oooooboobbobboob$ooobbooooooboooo$bbobbbobobbooboo$bobobbobbooobbob$obbbbobbobbbbobb$ooobboobbobobboo!

Its exact lifespan is 30289 generations, and it produces a temporary canoe in generation 20616 which lasts until generation 21359.

Haul: http://catagolue.appspot.com/haul/b3s23 ... e44984f603
Ian07

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### Re: Soup search results

Yet another p30 shuttle variant, found by carybe as usual:
x = 47, y = 47, rule = B3/S2319b2o5b2o$19b2o5b2o11$16b2o3b2ob2o3b2o$18b3o5b3o$17bo3bo3bo3bo$18bobo5bobo$12bo6bo7bo6bo$12bobo17bobo$13bobo15bobo$2o11bo2bo4bo3bo4bo2bo11b2o$2o11bobo4bobobobo4bobo11b2o$12bobo4bo2bobo2bo4bobo$12bo7b2o3b2o7bo2$12bo7b2o3b2o7bo$12bobo4bo2bobo2bo4bobo$2o11bobo4bobobobo4bobo11b2o$2o11bo2bo4bo3bo4bo2bo11b2o$13bobo15bobo$12bobo17bobo$12bo6bo7bo6bo$18bobo5bobo$17bo3bo3bo3bo$18b3o5b3o$16b2o3b2ob2o3b2o11$19b2o5b2o$19b2o5b2o! x = 31, y = 31, rule = B3/S23bbobbbbbbbbbbooooobbbbbbbbbbobb$bboobobbbboooobbboooobbbboboobb$oobobooobobbbobbbobbboboooboboo$booobbbobobbobooobobbobobbbooob$bbbbbbbobobbobooobobbobobbbbbbb$boobbbobbooobooboobooobbobbboob$bbobbobbbbboobbbbboobbbbbobbobb$bbooobbbboooobbobboooobbbbooobb$bbbbbbbboooboobbboobooobbbbbbbb$bbooooboooboboobooboboooboooobb$bobbbobooboobooooobooboobobbbob$bobbboooboobbbobobbboobooobbbob$boboobooobbbbbbbbbbbbboooboobob$ooobbobbooobbbooobbbooobbobbooo$obbooobbbooobooooobooobbbooobbo$obboobbobbobbooboobbobbobboobbo$obbooobbbooobooooobooobbbooobbo$ooobbobbooobbbooobbbooobbobbooo$boboobooobbbbbbbbbbbbboooboobob$bobbboooboobbbobobbboobooobbbob$bobbbobooboobooooobooboobobbbob$bbooooboooboboobooboboooboooobb$bbbbbbbboooboobbboobooobbbbbbbb$bbooobbbboooobbobboooobbbbooobb$bbobbobbbbboobbbbboobbbbbobbobb$boobbbobbooobooboobooobbobbboob$bbbbbbbobobbobooobobbobobbbbbbb$booobbbobobbobooobobbobobbbooob$oobobooobobbbobbbobbboboooboboo$bboobobbbboooobbboooobbbboboobb$bbobbbbbbbbbbooooobbbbbbbbbbobb! x₁=ηx V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη) K=(Λu²)/2 Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt) $$x_1=\eta x$$ $$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$ $$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$ $$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$ http://conwaylife.com/wiki/A_for_all Aidan F. Pierce A for awesome Posts: 1809 Joined: September 13th, 2014, 5:36 pm Location: 0x-1 ### Re: Soup search results Apple Bottom wrote: dvgrn wrote:Just for the record, here's the actual JavaLifeSearch link. WinLifeSearch and a pile of other search software can be found at the bottom of the Game of Life Links thread. As well as on the wiki. Thanks for the pointers everyone. I am planning to minimize the (288) 25K+ lifespan patterns in https://github.com/rliston/life-soup/tr ... lif/r00i20 and visually look for symmetry or other regularizer to help narrow the search. rliston Posts: 6 Joined: July 20th, 2018, 9:30 pm ### Re: Soup search results Fourfold Hertz variant, found by – you guessed it – carybe. x = 21, y = 17, rule = B3/S235b2o7b2o$5b2o7b2o2$5b4o3b4o$b2obo4bobo4bob2o$obobo3b2ob2o3bobobo$obobo4bobo4bobobo$bo3b4o3b4o3bo2$bo3b4o3b4o3bo$obobo4bobo4bobobo$obobo3b2ob2o3bobobo$b2obo4bobo4bob2o$5b4o3b4o2$5b2o7b2o$5b2o7b2o!

x = 31, y = 31, rule = B3/S23boobobobobboobbbbboobboboboboob$obooooooobbbbooooobbbbooooooobo$ooboobobooobobbbbbobooobobooboo$bobobobbobooobbbbbooobobbobobob$oobbbooobbbbooboboobbbbooobbboo$boobobooobooobbbbboooboooboboob$obboboobobbbbbobobbbbboboobobbo$bobobboboobbobooobobboobobbobob$bbobbooobooobbbbbbbooobooobbobb$ooooboobbbooooooooooobbbooboooo$bbbbboooboobbooboobboobooobbbbb$bobboobooobbbobobobbboooboobbob$bobobbooooobbbooobbbooooobbobob$ooooobbobbobobobobobobbobbooooo$oobbbooobobbobbobbobbobooobbboo$bbobooboooobbooooobbooooboobobb$oobbbooobobbobbobbobbobooobbboo$ooooobbobbobobobobobobbobbooooo$bobobbooooobbbooobbbooooobbobob$bobboobooobbbobobobbboooboobbob$bbbbboooboobbooboobboobooobbbbb$ooooboobbbooooooooooobbbooboooo$bbobbooobooobbbbbbbooobooobbobb$bobobboboobbobooobobboobobbobob$obboboobobbbbbobobbbbboboobobbo$boobobooobooobbbbboooboooboboob$oobbbooobbbbooboboobbbbooobbboo$bobobobbobooobbbbbooobobbobobob$ooboobobooobobbbbbobooobobooboo$obooooooobbbbooooobbbbooooooobo$boobobobobboobbbbboobboboboboob!

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### Re: Soup search results

Entity Valkyrie wrote:
danny wrote:It lasts 26,239 generations and produces a twinhat at (-62,-112) starting around generation 20,936, using this predecessor:
x = 13, y = 10, rule = B3/S23o$o$o2$2b3o2$o9b2o$o9bobo$o9bobo$11bo! I'm assuming that is well-known. 6G: x = 46, y = 42, rule = B3/S23bo$2bo34bo$3o32b2o$36b2o2$6bobo$7b2o5bobo$7bo7b2o$15bo4$4b2o$3bobo$5bo6$14b2o$15b2o$14bo17$43b3o$43bo$44bo! EDIT: That's actually seven. 4G: x = 72, y = 33, rule = B3/S2315bo$16b2o$15b2o$67bo$63b2obobob2o$64bobobobo$18b3o43bobobobo$20bo44bo3bo$19bo18$54b3o$54bo$55bo2$2o$b2o\$o!

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