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Re: Soup search results

Postby wwei23 » October 28th, 2018, 6:16 pm

Removed two cells, should preserve lifespan.
x = 20, y = 20, rule = B3/S23
o2bob2o2bobo2bo$2o2b2ob3obob2o2b3o$b2o2bo3bob6o$2obo4b4obo3b2o$obob2ob
o2b2o2b5o$b2ob3ob4o2b2ob3o$b2o6bo2b5ob2o$bo6bobob3obo2bo$o3bob3ob3o3bo
bo$b2o2b2obob3o$b4o3bo4b2obo$2o2b6obo5bobo$bob3ob3obobo4bo$obobobobo3b
3o3b2o$2obobob2o3b2ob4o$ob2ob2o6bobo2bo$o3b2ob2ob2obo4bo$7o6bo4bo$2b2o
bo7b2o2b3o$o3b3o6b3o2bo!
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Re: Soup search results

Postby A for awesome » October 28th, 2018, 7:30 pm

wwei23 wrote:Removed two cells, should preserve lifespan.
x = 20, y = 20, rule = B3/S23
o2bob2o2bobo2bo$2o2b2ob3obob2o2b3o$b2o2bo3bob6o$2obo4b4obo3b2o$obob2ob
o2b2o2b5o$b2ob3ob4o2b2ob3o$b2o6bo2b5ob2o$bo6bobob3obo2bo$o3bob3ob3o3bo
bo$b2o2b2obob3o$b4o3bo4b2obo$2o2b6obo5bobo$bob3ob3obobo4bo$obobobobo3b
3o3b2o$2obobob2o3b2ob4o$ob2ob2o6bobo2bo$o3b2ob2ob2obo4bo$7o6bo4bo$2b2o
bo7b2o2b3o$o3b3o6b3o2bo!

Down another cell:
x = 20, y = 20, rule = B3/S23
o2bob2o2bobo2bo$2o2b2ob3obob2o2b3o$b2o2bo3bob6o$2obo4b4obo3b2o$obob2ob
o2b2o2b3obo$b2ob3ob4o2b2ob3o$b2o6bo2b5ob2o$bo6bobob3obo2bo$o3bob3ob3o3bo
bo$b2o2b2obob3o$b4o3bo4b2obo$2o2b6obo5bobo$bob3ob3obobo4bo$obobobobo3b
3o3b2o$2obobob2o3b2ob4o$ob2ob2o6bobo2bo$o3b2ob2ob2obo4bo$7o6bo4bo$2b2o
bo7b2o2b3o$o3b3o6b3o2bo!
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V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη)
K=(Λu²)/2
Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt)

$$x_1=\eta x$$
$$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$
$$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$
$$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$

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Re: Soup search results

Postby AforAmpere » October 28th, 2018, 7:40 pm

A for awesome wrote:
wwei23 wrote:Removed two cells, should preserve lifespan.
RLE

Down another cell:
RLE

And 4 more:
x = 20, y = 20, rule = B3/S23
o2bob2o2bobo2bo$2o2b2ob3obob2o2b3o$b2o2bo3bob6o$2obo4b4obo3b2o$obob2ob
o2b2o2b3obo$b2ob3ob4o2b2ob3o$b2o6bo2b5ob2o$bo6bobob3obo2bo$o3bob3ob3o
3bobo$b2o2b2obob3o$b4o3bo4b2obo$2o2b6obo5bobo$bob3ob3obobo4bo$obobobob
o3b3o3b2o$bobobob2o3b2ob4o$2b2ob2o6bobo2bo$4b2ob2ob2obo4bo$b6o6bo4bo$
2b2obo7b2o2b3o$o3b3o6b3o2bo!
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Re: Soup search results

Postby Macbi » October 28th, 2018, 9:44 pm

Here's the minimal population 20 by 20 pattern that agrees after one generation (population 149):
x = 20, y = 20, rule = B3/S23
bobob2o6bo$2obob2ob3ob3o2b3o$b2o2bo6b5o$bobo4b4o5b2o$b2ob2obob3o2bobob
o$b2ob3o3bo7b2o$bo6bobo6b3o$b2o5bo7bob2o$o4bo3bobo5bo$obo2bobo6b2obo$b
o7bo6bo$3o8b2ob4o$b2o11bo2bobo$2o6bobo5bo2bo$o2bo4bobobo3bobo$o5b2o4bo
3bo$2ob5obo4bo3b2o$ob4o3bo3bo4bo$3b2o2bo5b2o2b3o$2o2b3o6b3o2bo!
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Re: Soup search results

Postby rliston » October 28th, 2018, 10:13 pm

Macbi wrote:Here's the minimal population 20 by 20 pattern that agrees after one generation (population 149):
x = 20, y = 20, rule = B3/S23
bobob2o6bo$2obob2ob3ob3o2b3o$b2o2bo6b5o$bobo4b4o5b2o$b2ob2obob3o2bobob
o$b2ob3o3bo7b2o$bo6bobo6b3o$b2o5bo7bob2o$o4bo3bobo5bo$obo2bobo6b2obo$b
o7bo6bo$3o8b2ob4o$b2o11bo2bobo$2o6bobo5bo2bo$o2bo4bobobo3bobo$o5b2o4bo
3bo$2ob5obo4bo3b2o$ob4o3bo3bo4bo$3b2o2bo5b2o2b3o$2o2b3o6b3o2bo!

Very cool Macbi. Can you point me to an automated way of finding the minimal parent pattern? I have an additional (300) 20x20 random patterns with lifespan 25K+ which I would like to compare visually.
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Re: Soup search results

Postby Redstoneboi » October 29th, 2018, 1:23 am

rliston wrote:Can you point me to an automated way of finding the minimal parent pattern? I have an additional (300) 20x20 random patterns with lifespan 25K+ which I would like to compare visually.

Well I guess you could try every possible pattern within bounding box -1,-1,x+1,y+1 (where 0,0,x,y, are the positions of the original bounding box’s corners), if gen 1 of the tested pattern is the target, add it to the list of parents, and take the lowest population of those
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Re: Soup search results

Postby danny » October 29th, 2018, 3:15 am

First apgmethuselah (meth_25k) to someone besides apgoucher somehow goes to me:

x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
obbooboobboobbbo$
oooboboobbbbbbob$
bboobooobbbobbbb$
obbbbobobobooobo$
bobobobooboboooo$
oooooboobbboobbb$
bobbbobbbobboboo$
bbbbbbbbbobooooo$
bboobobooobobboo$
booooboboooboboo$
booobobooooobobo$
obbbbbbooobobobb$
oobobbboobboooob$
oobbbbbbbbobbooo$
obbboooobbbobobo$
bbbbbbbbobbobooo!


It lasts 26,239 generations and produces a twinhat at (-62,-112) starting around generation 20,936, using this predecessor:
x = 13, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
o$o$o2$2b3o2$o9b2o$o9bobo$o9bobo$11bo!

I'm assuming that is well-known.

And then another meth_25k which lasts 26255 and produces a carrier at (-93,-112) generation 18317:
x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
oooobobboooooboo$
obbbobooboboobob$
ooooooooooobobbb$
bobboobobbbbobbb$
bobbboobbooooobb$
bbbboooobbbbbbob$
obobbbbbbboobbbb$
oboboooooboooobb$
bbbbboooboooobbo$
oooobobobbbboobo$
bbobobbbobboboob$
booboobooobobooo$
boobobbooboboobo$
bboobbbbbobobooo$
obobbobbbobobobo$
oooooobbbooobbbo!
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Re: Soup search results

Postby Entity Valkyrie » October 29th, 2018, 4:54 am

danny wrote:It lasts 26,239 generations and produces a twinhat at (-62,-112) starting around generation 20,936, using this predecessor:
x = 13, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
o$o$o2$2b3o2$o9b2o$o9bobo$o9bobo$11bo!

I'm assuming that is well-known.


6G:

x = 46, y = 42, rule = B3/S23
bo$2bo34bo$3o32b2o$36b2o2$6bobo$7b2o5bobo$7bo7b2o$15bo4$4b2o$3bobo$5bo
6$14b2o$15b2o$14bo17$43b3o$43bo$44bo!

EDIT: That's actually seven.
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Re: Soup search results

Postby wildmyron » October 29th, 2018, 5:13 am

Redstoneboi wrote:
rliston wrote:Can you point me to an automated way of finding the minimal parent pattern? I have an additional (300) 20x20 random patterns with lifespan 25K+ which I would like to compare visually.

Well I guess you could try every possible pattern within bounding box -1,-1,x+1,y+1 (where 0,0,x,y, are the positions of the original bounding box’s corners), if gen 1 of the tested pattern is the target, add it to the list of parents, and take the lowest population of those

Don't actually do that though.
A) I suspect only parents inside 20x20 are of interest
B) there are 2^400 possible patterns to evaluate.

There are several options for automated searching. Macbi probably used logic life search which is a python frontend to an SAT solver. This seems to be the current best search method for predecessor searching. LLS has an option to set a maximum population, so the search won't be completely automated - you need to rerun the search with successively lower population bounds.

There are also GUI programs which can do these searches: "win life search" and "java life search". These are probably easier to use (particularly JLS which allows pasting rle patterns). For this size search I think they'll be quite a bit slower and you would likely need to take particular care with the search order to get a result in a reasonable time
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Re: Soup search results

Postby Goldtiger997 » October 29th, 2018, 7:39 am

rliston wrote:Found this 20x20 soup with lifespan 39693 after searching ~23B patterns using my own FPGA-based search engine...


Here's a 20x20 pattern that shares its third generation with rliston's pattern's second generation. This means it has a lifespan of 39694 (no longer a pallendrome). Also, it's population is 140, but I'm pretty certain it can still be lowered. I found it with LLS:

x = 20, y = 20, rule = B3/S23
bobobobob2o7b2o$b5o6b3obo$o8bo3bo4bo$4bo5bo5b2o$obobo2bobo2bobo4bo$2b
3o2b2obo2b3o2bo$6bob2obo5b2o$obo7bobo5bo$o4bo3bo3b2ob3o$bo3bobobob2ob
3o$b2obo9b2o$2bo2bobo3bobo4b2o$3b2obob5o5b2o$b2o10bo4bo$2o5bobobo3b3o$
o3bob2o3bobo3bo$2obo5bo4b4o$b2o3bo3bo4b2obo$4b2o6bob2ob2o$bo3b2obo5bo
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Re: Soup search results

Postby Macbi » October 29th, 2018, 7:56 am

If this new methuselah was found after searching only 23 billion soups then it shouldn't take long at all for the new apgsearch to find a new record. If I'm reading the charts correctly, the Catagolue receives more than that many soups every day.
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Re: Soup search results

Postby calcyman » October 29th, 2018, 8:01 am

Macbi wrote:If this new methuselah was found after searching only 23 billion soups then it shouldn't take long at all for the new apgsearch to find a new record. If I'm reading the charts correctly, the Catagolue receives more than that many soups every day.


The charts are in objects, rather than soups -- 23 billion soups corresponds to about 500 billion objects.
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Re: Soup search results

Postby Macbi » October 29th, 2018, 8:18 am

I see. So at current search rates it should take about a week.
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Re: Soup search results

Postby calcyman » October 29th, 2018, 8:22 am

Macbi wrote:I see. So at current search rates it should take about a week.


Yes, assuming that 16x16 soups are as likely to yield methuselahs as 20x20 soups. (I expect that's not the case, but that the ratio of the probabilities is still relatively small.)
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Re: Soup search results

Postby Ian07 » October 29th, 2018, 3:34 pm

Macbi wrote:I see. So at current search rates it should take about a week.

That's also assuming everyone is actually reporting the methuselahs they find, which they're not. As far as I can tell none of the "main" searchers have updated to v4.55 yet.
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Re: Soup search results

Postby Apple Bottom » October 29th, 2018, 4:29 pm

Ian07 wrote:That's also assuming everyone is actually reporting the methuselahs they find, which they're not. As far as I can tell none of the "main" searchers have updated to v4.55 yet.


(Mine have, but I'm only searching D8_1 at the moment.)

And just to make this post a little less pointless, allow me to observe that D8_1 has not just surpassed 10 trillion objects but also overtaken b38s23/C1 and become the second most-searched rule/symmetry combination, in terms of total objects censused.

(I remember looking at the D8_1 census back in mid-2015 -- Catagolue was still largely fed by apgsearch 1.x at the time --, marveling at Beluchenko's p37 and p51, and thinking how unlikely I'd ever be to see either of those myself. The times, they are a-changin'...)
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Re: Soup search results

Postby dvgrn » October 29th, 2018, 8:52 pm

wildmyron wrote:There are also GUI programs which can do these searches: "win life search" and "java life search". These are probably easier to use (particularly JLS which allows pasting rle patterns). For this size search I think they'll be quite a bit slower and you would likely need to take particular care with the search order to get a result in a reasonable time...

Just for the record, here's the actual JavaLifeSearch link. WinLifeSearch and a pile of other search software can be found at the bottom of the Game of Life Links thread.
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Re: Soup search results

Postby Apple Bottom » October 30th, 2018, 3:53 am

dvgrn wrote:Just for the record, here's the actual JavaLifeSearch link. WinLifeSearch and a pile of other search software can be found at the bottom of the Game of Life Links thread.


As well as on the wiki.
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Re: Soup search results

Postby mniemiec » October 30th, 2018, 9:35 am

There are a several unsolved P2s that show up in Catagolue soups, and that lead to syntheses or potential syntheses.
The 4th soup from https://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xp ... 2z01/b3s23 gives this 20-glider synthesis of 18P2.338.
The 2nd soup from https://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xp ... x111/b3s23 gives a potential path to 18P2.358.
The 4th soup from https://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xp ... gb0s/b3s23 gives a potential path to 18P2.378 plus much toxic junk (see generation 29).
x = 256, y = 98, rule = B3/S23
57bo$9bo47bobo170bo$9bobo45boo171bobo$9boo44bo26bo147boo$7bo8bo36bobo
26bobo10boo24boo12boo24boo35bo29bo$5bobo7bo11boo6bo18boo11boo6bo6boo
10bobbo9boo6bo5boo11bobbo9boo6bo5boo34bobo27bobo$6boo7b3o8bobbo4bobo
29bobbo4bobo8boo8boo9bobbo4bobo14boobboo9bobbo4bobo29bo3bo6bobo16bo3bo
6bobo16bo3bo$27boo5bobo30boo5bobo8bobo19boo5bobo13bobo14boo5bobo29bo3b
obo5bo17bo3bobo5bo17bo3bobo$18b3o14bo39bo9bo29bo16bo22bo29bobbo26bobbo
26bobbo$bo16bo174boo28boo28boo$bbo16bo166boo28boo28boo$3o22bo29bo9bo
39bo39bo22bo23bobbo26bobbo26bobbo$24bobo5boo19bobo8bobo5boo30bobo5boo
30bobo5boo14bobo11bo5bobo3bo17bo5bobo3bo23bobo3bo$3b3o7boo9bobo4bobbo
19boo8bobo4bobbo29bobo4bobbo9boo18bobo4bobbo9boobboo11bobo6bo3bo16bobo
6bo3bo25bo3bo$5bo7bobo9bo6boo23boo6bo6boo11boo11boo5bo6boo9bobbo11boo
5bo6boo9bobbo14bobo27bobo$4bo8bo42bobo26bobo10boo24boo12boo24boo16bo
29bo$10boo46bo26bo123boo$9bobo70boo124bobo$11bo69bobo126bo$83bo12$5bo$
5bo$bbobbo$3bo$bboo$4o$$12boo43bo$11bobbo40bobo$12boo39bo5bobo$53bo7bo
bo$53bobo7bo$3boo50bobo5bo$bbobbo53bobo$3boo54bo$$13b4o$13boo$13bo$11b
obbo$11bo$11bo21$58bo$56booboo5b3o$56bobboo4bobbo$55bo3bo5b3o$60b6o$9b
o46bobobob3o$9bo50boobo$ooboo4bo5bo45bo$o3bo9b3o38boo3bo$b3o10bobbo10b
o26b3o10b3o$b3o22bobbo24bo$11boo13boobo24bo6boo3boobo$3boo6boo6boo6boo
25bo6bo8bo6bo$bboboo13boo41boboo3boo6bo$bbobbo22b3o46bo$3bo10bobbo10b
3o30b3o10b3o$15b3o9bo3bo39bo3boo$16bo5bo4booboo38bo$22bo45boboo$22bo
44b3obobobo$66b6o$64b3o5bo3bo$63bobbo4boobbo$63b3o5booboo$73bo!

The only soup from https://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xp ... 0ago/b3s23 gives a synthesis of 18P2.395 (28 gliders plus massive cleanup TBD).
x = 268, y = 140, rule = B3/S23
bbo$obo30bo49bo49bo49bo49bo$boo29bobo47bobo47bobo47bobo47bobo$14bo17bo
bo47bobo47bobo47bobo47bobo$12boo19bo49bo49bo49bo49bo$13boo63bo$37boo
40bo7boo40bo7boo40bo7boo40bo7boo$15bo20bobbo37b3o6bobbo38bobo5bobbo38b
obo5bobbo38bobo5bobbo$14boo21boo48boo39bobo6boo39bobo6boo39bobo6boo$
14bobo57b3o52bo49bo49bo$33bo42bo6bo49bo49bo49bo$32bobo40bo6bobo47bobo
47bobo47bobo$32bobo47bobo47bobo47bobo47bobo$33bo49bo49bo49bo49bo$186bo
$186bobo$186boo$183boo47boo$183bobo46boo$156bo26bo$154bobo49boo$155boo
49boo$152boo$151bobo$153bo$106bo49bo49bo$105bobo47bobo4b4o39bobo$105bo
bo47bobo4bo3bo38bobo$106bo49bo5bo43bo$53bobo107bobbo43bo$54boo45boo48b
oo7boo39boo6bobo$54bo45bobbo46bobbo6bobo37bobbo5bobo$101boo48boo7bo40b
oo7bo$55boo$56boo48bo49bo49bo$55bo49bobo47bobo47bobo$67boo36bobo47bobo
47bobo$67bobo36bo49bo49bo$67bo21$208boo$208boo4$206boo$206bobo7boo$
189boo16bo8boo$172boo15boo19bo$172boo36bo$210bo$$206b3o3b3o$$192boo16b
o$191bobo16bo46boo$192bo17bo6bo39boo$217bo43boo$217bo43bobo$262bo$195b
oo16b3o$195boo$83bo$82bobo$82bobo176boo$62bo20bo107bo29bo38bobo$61bo
117bo10bobo5bo21bobo8bo29bo$61b3o4bo10bo7boo90bo10bobo5bo9b3o9bobo7bob
o$59bo7bo10bobo5bobbo89bo11bo6bo22bo7bobbo$60bo6b3o8bobo6boo141boo$58b
3o4bo13bo95b3o3b3o10b3o$66bo16bo170bo$64b3o15bobo94bo62bo11bo$82bobo
94bo62bo11bo$69bo13bo95bo62bo$70boo$69boo144boo$72b3o140bo$72bo9boo
132bobo37boo$73bo8boo171bobo$159bobobo19bo31b3oboob3o31bo$56boo8bo115b
obo$56boo9bo114boo37bobo$65b3o156bo$69boo152boo$68boo$56bo13bo126bo62b
o$55bobo127bo11bo62bo$55bobo15b3o109bo11bo62bo$56bo16bo111bo$60bo13bo
4b3o161b3o10b3o3b3o$51boo6bobo8b3o6bo128boo$50bobbo5bobo10bo7bo126bobb
o7bo22bo6bo11bo$51boo7bo10bo4b3o128bobo7bobo9b3o9bo5bobo10bo$78bo99bo
29bo8bobo21bo5bobo10bo$56bo20bo99bobo38bo29bo$55bobo119boo$55bobo$56bo
$243boo$224b3o16boo$177bo$176bobo43bo$177boo43bo$181boo39bo6bo17bo$
181boo46bo16bobo$229bo16boo$$225b3o3b3o$$229bo$229bo36boo$229bo19boo
15boo$222boo8bo16boo$222boo7bobo$232boo4$230boo$230boo!


There are also a few others that I couldn't find workable predecessors from:
7 soups for 18P2.253: https://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xp ... 0307/b3s23
2 soups for 18P2.444: https://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xp ... 0p0e/b3s23
Also, 1 soup for 24P4.1: https://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xp ... 5011/b3s23

(Also, while editing this, I found a bug in LiveViewer: If you enter an invalid rule, you can't bring up the popup menu, which means you can't close the LifeViewer if it's taller than the screen; the only recourse is to click on a LifeViewer attached to another valid pattern on the page, and then close that).

EDIT: The above 18P2.395 synthesis can be cleaned up with 20 gilders, for a total of 48; I'm sure the cleanup can be improved.
x = 217, y = 81, rule = B3/S23
40boo$40boo$188bo$34bo153bobo$35boo151boo$bo32boobboo$bbo35bobo7boo78b
oo38boo$3o18boo16bo8boo78boo38boo$4boo15boo19bo$4boo36bo$42bo$$38b3o3b
3o$20bo$21bobboo16bo$19b3obobo16bo46boo$24bo17bo6bo39boo38bo39bo$49bo
43boo34bo39bo$49bo43bobo33bo31bobo5bo$94bo67boo$27boo16b3o77b3o34bobb
3o$27boo$100bo$99bo77bo$93boo4b3o74bo$23bo29bo35bobbobo38bo39bobb3o$3b
obo5bo10bobo5bo21bobo8bo26bobbo38bobo8bo28bobo8bo$4boo5bo10bobo5bo9b3o
9bobo7bobo23b3o29b3o9bobo7bobo15b3o9bobo7bobo$4bo6bo11bo6bo22bo7bobbo
68bo7bobbo28bo7bobbo$62boo78boo38boo$7b3o3b3o10b3o$86bo$11bo62bo11bo$
11bo62bo11bo$11bo62bo$$47boo34bobo41boo38boo38boo$47bo36boo41bo39bo39b
o$48bobo33bo3boo38bobo37bobo37bobo$87bobo$15bo31b3oboob3o31bo38b3oboob
3o30b3oboob3o30b3oboob3o$14bobo$14boo3bo33bobo77bobo37bobo37bobo$18boo
36bo79bo39bo39bo$18bobo34boo78boo38boo38boo$$29bo62bo$17bo11bo62bo$17b
o11bo62bo$17bo$75b3o10b3o3b3o$40boo78boo38boo$39bobbo7bo22bo6bo11bo6bo
19bobbo7bo28bobbo7bo$13b3o23bobo7bobo9b3o9bo5bobo10bo5boo19bobo7bobo9b
3o15bobo7bobo9b3o$10bobbo26bo8bobo21bo5bobo10bo5bobo19bo8bobo28bo8bobo
$9bobobbo35bo29bo49bo34b3obbo$bb3o4boo156bo$4bo161bo$3bo$75boo$56b3o
16boo59b3o37b3obbo$9bo170boo$8bobo43bo79bo39bo5bobo$9boo43bo79bo39bo$
13boo39bo6bo17bo54bo39bo$13boo46bo16bobob3o$61bo16boobbo$83bo$57b3o3b
3o$$61bo$61bo36boo$61bo19boo15boo$54boo8bo16boo18b3o30boo38boo$54boo7b
obo35bo32boo38boo$64boobboo32bo$67boo85boo$69bo83bobo$155bo$62boo$62b
oo!
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Re: Soup search results

Postby rowett » October 30th, 2018, 9:42 am

mniemiec wrote:(Also, while editing this, I found a bug in LiveViewer: If you enter an invalid rule, you can't bring up the popup menu, which means you can't close the LifeViewer if it's taller than the screen; the only recourse is to click on a LifeViewer attached to another valid pattern on the page, and then close that).

Pressing "Esc" will close a popup LifeViewer on a device with a keyboard.
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Re: Soup search results

Postby Ian07 » October 30th, 2018, 12:58 pm

Heavpoot has found the first 30k+ generation methuselah on Catagolue:
x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
bobbbbbobbobooob$
oobboboboobbooob$
obobbobooobbbbbo$
ooobobooboobbbbo$
boobobobbbbbobbo$
obobooboobobbooo$
bbobbobbbbbbbobb$
oobbbbbbooboobob$
oobboobbbbbooboo$
obboboooobobobbb$
oooooboobbobboob$
ooobbooooooboooo$
bbobbbobobbooboo$
bobobbobbooobbob$
obbbbobbobbbbobb$
ooobboobbobobboo!


Its exact lifespan is 30289 generations, and it produces a temporary canoe in generation 20616 which lasts until generation 21359.

Haul: http://catagolue.appspot.com/haul/b3s23 ... e44984f603
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Re: Soup search results

Postby A for awesome » October 30th, 2018, 6:33 pm

Yet another p30 shuttle variant, found by carybe as usual:
x = 47, y = 47, rule = B3/S23
19b2o5b2o$19b2o5b2o11$16b2o3b2ob2o3b2o$18b3o5b3o$17bo3bo3bo3bo$18bobo5bobo$
12bo6bo7bo6bo$12bobo17bobo$13bobo15bobo$2o11bo2bo4bo3bo4bo2bo11b2o$2o11bobo4b
obobobo4bobo11b2o$12bobo4bo2bobo2bo4bobo$12bo7b2o3b2o7bo2$12bo7b2o3b2o7bo$12b
obo4bo2bobo2bo4bobo$2o11bobo4bobobobo4bobo11b2o$2o11bo2bo4bo3bo4bo2bo11b2o$
13bobo15bobo$12bobo17bobo$12bo6bo7bo6bo$18bobo5bobo$17bo3bo3bo3bo$18b3o5b3o$
16b2o3b2ob2o3b2o11$19b2o5b2o$19b2o5b2o!

x = 31, y = 31, rule = B3/S23
bbobbbbbbbbbbooooobbbbbbbbbbobb$
bboobobbbboooobbboooobbbboboobb$
oobobooobobbbobbbobbboboooboboo$
booobbbobobbobooobobbobobbbooob$
bbbbbbbobobbobooobobbobobbbbbbb$
boobbbobbooobooboobooobbobbboob$
bbobbobbbbboobbbbboobbbbbobbobb$
bbooobbbboooobbobboooobbbbooobb$
bbbbbbbboooboobbboobooobbbbbbbb$
bbooooboooboboobooboboooboooobb$
bobbbobooboobooooobooboobobbbob$
bobbboooboobbbobobbboobooobbbob$
boboobooobbbbbbbbbbbbboooboobob$
ooobbobbooobbbooobbbooobbobbooo$
obbooobbbooobooooobooobbbooobbo$
obboobbobbobbooboobbobbobboobbo$
obbooobbbooobooooobooobbbooobbo$
ooobbobbooobbbooobbbooobbobbooo$
boboobooobbbbbbbbbbbbboooboobob$
bobbboooboobbbobobbboobooobbbob$
bobbbobooboobooooobooboobobbbob$
bbooooboooboboobooboboooboooobb$
bbbbbbbboooboobbboobooobbbbbbbb$
bbooobbbboooobbobboooobbbbooobb$
bbobbobbbbboobbbbboobbbbbobbobb$
boobbbobbooobooboobooobbobbboob$
bbbbbbbobobbobooobobbobobbbbbbb$
booobbbobobbobooobobbobobbbooob$
oobobooobobbbobbbobbboboooboboo$
bboobobbbboooobbboooobbbboboobb$
bbobbbbbbbbbbooooobbbbbbbbbbobb!
x₁=ηx
V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη)
K=(Λu²)/2
Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt)

$$x_1=\eta x$$
$$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$
$$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$
$$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$

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Re: Soup search results

Postby rliston » October 30th, 2018, 8:21 pm

Apple Bottom wrote:
dvgrn wrote:Just for the record, here's the actual JavaLifeSearch link. WinLifeSearch and a pile of other search software can be found at the bottom of the Game of Life Links thread.


As well as on the wiki.

Thanks for the pointers everyone. I am planning to minimize the (288) 25K+ lifespan patterns in https://github.com/rliston/life-soup/tr ... lif/r00i20 and visually look for symmetry or other regularizer to help narrow the search.
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Re: Soup search results

Postby cordership3 » October 30th, 2018, 9:34 pm

Fourfold Hertz variant, found by – you guessed it – carybe.
x = 21, y = 17, rule = B3/S23
5b2o7b2o$5b2o7b2o2$5b4o3b4o$b2obo4bobo4bob2o$obobo3b2ob2o3bobobo$obobo4bobo4b
obobo$bo3b4o3b4o3bo2$bo3b4o3b4o3bo$obobo4bobo4bobobo$obobo3b2ob2o3bobobo$b2ob
o4bobo4bob2o$5b4o3b4o2$5b2o7b2o$5b2o7b2o!

x = 31, y = 31, rule = B3/S23
boobobobobboobbbbboobboboboboob$
obooooooobbbbooooobbbbooooooobo$
ooboobobooobobbbbbobooobobooboo$
bobobobbobooobbbbbooobobbobobob$
oobbbooobbbbooboboobbbbooobbboo$
boobobooobooobbbbboooboooboboob$
obboboobobbbbbobobbbbboboobobbo$
bobobboboobbobooobobboobobbobob$
bbobbooobooobbbbbbbooobooobbobb$
ooooboobbbooooooooooobbbooboooo$
bbbbboooboobbooboobboobooobbbbb$
bobboobooobbbobobobbboooboobbob$
bobobbooooobbbooobbbooooobbobob$
ooooobbobbobobobobobobbobbooooo$
oobbbooobobbobbobbobbobooobbboo$
bbobooboooobbooooobbooooboobobb$
oobbbooobobbobbobbobbobooobbboo$
ooooobbobbobobobobobobbobbooooo$
bobobbooooobbbooobbbooooobbobob$
bobboobooobbbobobobbboooboobbob$
bbbbboooboobbooboobboobooobbbbb$
ooooboobbbooooooooooobbbooboooo$
bbobbooobooobbbbbbbooobooobbobb$
bobobboboobbobooobobboobobbobob$
obboboobobbbbbobobbbbboboobobbo$
boobobooobooobbbbboooboooboboob$
oobbbooobbbbooboboobbbbooobbboo$
bobobobbobooobbbbbooobobbobobob$
ooboobobooobobbbbbobooobobooboo$
obooooooobbbbooooobbbbooooooobo$
boobobobobboobbbbboobboboboboob!
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Re: Soup search results

Postby BobShemyakin » October 31st, 2018, 3:31 pm

Entity Valkyrie wrote:
danny wrote:It lasts 26,239 generations and produces a twinhat at (-62,-112) starting around generation 20,936, using this predecessor:
x = 13, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
o$o$o2$2b3o2$o9b2o$o9bobo$o9bobo$11bo!

I'm assuming that is well-known.


6G:

x = 46, y = 42, rule = B3/S23
bo$2bo34bo$3o32b2o$36b2o2$6bobo$7b2o5bobo$7bo7b2o$15bo4$4b2o$3bobo$5bo
6$14b2o$15b2o$14bo17$43b3o$43bo$44bo!

EDIT: That's actually seven.

4G:
x = 72, y = 33, rule = B3/S23
15bo$16b2o$15b2o$67bo$63b2obobob2o$64bobobobo$18b3o43bobobobo$20bo44bo
3bo$19bo18$54b3o$54bo$55bo2$2o$b2o$o!

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