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Re: Soup search results

Postby dvgrn » February 1st, 2019, 12:51 pm

testitemqlstudop wrote:Here's a huge soup (9 billion objects!) collected from running my computer overnight:

https://catagolue.appspot.com/haul/b3s2 ... 72164f9f71

There's few interesting things, but I didn't think about looking through all 1701 objects. Does catagolue have a "sort by rarity" function?

I think you mean "haul" rather than "soup". And if you check the Occurrences column, you'll find the objects are already sorted by their number of occurrences -- which is a good approximation of rarity, at least until you get down to the objects with only one occurence each (where it will turn out that some were much luckier finds than others).

If there's nothing particularly worth seeing in the haul, there's no need to post this kind of announcement in the Soup Search Results thread. Half a billion soups is moderately large for a single haul, but Rob Liston for example is contributing that many soups to C1 every couple of hours these days.
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Re: Soup search results

Postby testitemqlstudop » February 1st, 2019, 4:19 pm

Yeah, I meant haul.

I know the 1-occurrence objects are at the bottom, but some of the still lives have occured 200 times in C1 but some have only occured 40 or so in C1. I want the ones that occured only 40 times in C1 at the bottom .

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Re: Soup search results

Postby Apple Bottom » February 1st, 2019, 6:22 pm

testitemqlstudop wrote:I know the 1-occurrence objects are at the bottom, but some of the still lives have occured 200 times in C1 but some have only occured 40 or so in C1. I want the ones that occured only 40 times in C1 at the bottom .


Your best bet, I think, is to grep through the log for the haul in question, filtering out uninteresting stuff like still lifes and period-two oscillators. Using a random recent haul of mine as an example:

$ wc -l log.1549048356.l_2echxv5D5hwx.txt
2941 log.1549048356.l_2echxv5D5hwx.txt
$ cat log.1549048356.l_2echxv5D5hwx.txt | grep -v ^xs | grep -v ^xp2_
[...]
@CENSUS TABLE
xq4_153 1716237
xp3_co9nas0san9oczgoldlo0oldlogz1047210127401 375434
xp8_gk2gb3z11 13560
xp6_ccb7w66z066 7776
xq4_6frc 5192
xp4_ssj3744zw3 4808
xq4_27dee6 2552
xp14_j9d0d9j 1464
xq4_27deee6 648
xp3_xg8vxv8gzhhhhhy1hhhhhzx12vxv21 510
xq4_27dee6z4eb776 320
xp5_idiidiz01w1 304
xp3_0gs46364sgz13e8ogo8e31zy11 295
xp5_y131u0u13z3lkkk21x12kkkl3z32x12s0s21x23zy13210123 282
xp15_4r4z4r4 248
xp5_oca71v0v17acoztll55o0o55lltz012747074721 198
xp4_8eh5e0e5he8z178a707a871 56
xq4_27deee6z4eb7776 32
xp4_y1g9b9gze40ehy1he04ezy11iqi1 21
messless_5h 9
xp4_37bkic 8
xp3_co9na4oggzw12e 8
xp3_wggc2l2cggz25a8i2d2i8a52zy012521 6
xp29_y8252y1252zy94c4x4c4z8k8y0ogydgoy08k8zy3hyfhz252y031yd13y0252zy9464x464zy88k8y18k8 5
xp4_hv4a4vh 4
xp3_gwk7zdlp1ui0311 4
xp3_g31u0u13gz1pgf0fgp1 4
xp3_co9na4o0o4an9oczwhaaah0haaahz63ita43034ati36 4
xp3_699m4k8gzx122cjic 4
xp3_4s3ia4oggzw12e 4
xp15_4r4y14r4z4r4y14r4 4
xp3_3jc42s0s24cj3z08l55o0o55l8z6611210121166 2
xp5_y36t1u0u1t6zo4c8829o6430346o9288c4ozo5lll5loy3ol5lll5oz011w240r1u0u1r042w11zy3354303453 1
xp5_y135a404a53z35a40653x35604a53zca5206acxca6025aczy1ca52025ac 1
xp5_y125a404a52z25a40653x35604a52z4a5206acxca6025a4zy14a52025a4 1
xp4_y539e0e93zggxoki17y171ikoxggzhaarydraahz11x359gsy1sg953x11zy5oie0eio 1
xp4_y38eh5e0e5he8zg88cgc89n8a707a8n98cgc88gzhara0arahy3hara0arahz1226162it2as0sa2ti2616221zy32ehke0ekhe2 1
xp3_s47117471174szt57y375tz1174471744711 1
xp3_ggw3p686p3wggzhaalh44r44hlaahz11wojc2cjow11 1
xp3_ggw35icgci53wggz12lka298m892akl21z65201h6o5o6h10256zy0321x123 1
xp30_y1ccx8k2s3yd3s2k8xcczw33y4103yd301y433zgka9akgytgka9akgzzzz4k888k4yt4k888k4zw121yx121zw330oox8k2s3yd3s2k8xoo033zy8103yd301 1
messless_10h 1
[...]
$


As you can see, drilling down to the (potentially) interesting stuff's pretty straightforward.
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Re: Soup search results

Postby testitemqlstudop » February 1st, 2019, 7:28 pm

Apple Bottom wrote:
testitemqlstudop wrote:I know the 1-occurrence objects are at the bottom, but some of the still lives have occured 200 times in C1 but some have only occured 40 or so in C1. I want the ones that occured only 40 times in C1 at the bottom .


Your best bet, I think, is to grep through the log for the haul in question, filtering out uninteresting stuff like still lifes and period-two oscillators. Using a random recent haul of mine as an example:

$ wc -l log.1549048356.l_2echxv5D5hwx.txt
2941 log.1549048356.l_2echxv5D5hwx.txt
$ cat log.1549048356.l_2echxv5D5hwx.txt | grep -v ^xs | grep -v ^xp2_
[...]
@CENSUS TABLE
xq4_153 1716237
xp3_co9nas0san9oczgoldlo0oldlogz1047210127401 375434
xp8_gk2gb3z11 13560
xp6_ccb7w66z066 7776
xq4_6frc 5192
xp4_ssj3744zw3 4808
xq4_27dee6 2552
xp14_j9d0d9j 1464
xq4_27deee6 648
xp3_xg8vxv8gzhhhhhy1hhhhhzx12vxv21 510
xq4_27dee6z4eb776 320
xp5_idiidiz01w1 304
xp3_0gs46364sgz13e8ogo8e31zy11 295
xp5_y131u0u13z3lkkk21x12kkkl3z32x12s0s21x23zy13210123 282
xp15_4r4z4r4 248
xp5_oca71v0v17acoztll55o0o55lltz012747074721 198
xp4_8eh5e0e5he8z178a707a871 56
xq4_27deee6z4eb7776 32
xp4_y1g9b9gze40ehy1he04ezy11iqi1 21
messless_5h 9
xp4_37bkic 8
xp3_co9na4oggzw12e 8
xp3_wggc2l2cggz25a8i2d2i8a52zy012521 6
xp29_y8252y1252zy94c4x4c4z8k8y0ogydgoy08k8zy3hyfhz252y031yd13y0252zy9464x464zy88k8y18k8 5
xp4_hv4a4vh 4
xp3_gwk7zdlp1ui0311 4
xp3_g31u0u13gz1pgf0fgp1 4
xp3_co9na4o0o4an9oczwhaaah0haaahz63ita43034ati36 4
xp3_699m4k8gzx122cjic 4
xp3_4s3ia4oggzw12e 4
xp15_4r4y14r4z4r4y14r4 4
xp3_3jc42s0s24cj3z08l55o0o55l8z6611210121166 2
xp5_y36t1u0u1t6zo4c8829o6430346o9288c4ozo5lll5loy3ol5lll5oz011w240r1u0u1r042w11zy3354303453 1
xp5_y135a404a53z35a40653x35604a53zca5206acxca6025aczy1ca52025ac 1
xp5_y125a404a52z25a40653x35604a52z4a5206acxca6025a4zy14a52025a4 1
xp4_y539e0e93zggxoki17y171ikoxggzhaarydraahz11x359gsy1sg953x11zy5oie0eio 1
xp4_y38eh5e0e5he8zg88cgc89n8a707a8n98cgc88gzhara0arahy3hara0arahz1226162it2as0sa2ti2616221zy32ehke0ekhe2 1
xp3_s47117471174szt57y375tz1174471744711 1
xp3_ggw3p686p3wggzhaalh44r44hlaahz11wojc2cjow11 1
xp3_ggw35icgci53wggz12lka298m892akl21z65201h6o5o6h10256zy0321x123 1
xp30_y1ccx8k2s3yd3s2k8xcczw33y4103yd301y433zgka9akgytgka9akgzzzz4k888k4yt4k888k4zw121yx121zw330oox8k2s3yd3s2k8xoo033zy8103yd301 1
messless_10h 1
[...]
$


As you can see, drilling down to the (potentially) interesting stuff's pretty straightforward.


Actually, on a web browser, you can do a Ctrl-F and type in stuff like "xq", "yl", etc. But I meant "intersting" as in "rearely occuring in C1", and I want my hauls to be sorted by the object's rarity in C1!
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Re: Soup search results

Postby testitemqlstudop » February 7th, 2019, 12:09 pm

Holy cow, an MWSS on HWSS 2 (43 in C1) and a new xp3 occurs in the same haul:
http://catagolue.appspot.com/haul/b3s23 ... eecc59a5ec

xp3_wg31u064koz47011
x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
obbbbbbbooobobob$
oboobobobboobbbb$
bbobbobbboooobbb$
booobbbbobbboboo$
bbbooboobboobboo$
bobobooobboboboo$
oboobobbbboobbbb$
oobooobbobbooobo$
boobobboobbobbbb$
obobbbbbbooobbbb$
obobbbobobbbbobb$
oboobobboobobbbo$
oobobobooooobbob$
oooboobobbbooobb$
bbboboobbbbobboo$
boboooboobbbbooo!


xq4_27dee6z4eb7776 (MWSS on HWSS 2)
x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
boobbbbboobboobb$
bobbooooboooobob$
obobbobbbobooboo$
oobooooboobbboob$
ooooboobbbbbbboo$
oooboobobboobboo$
oboooobobobbbobo$
bobooobooooooobb$
bobobobboooboooo$
bobobbboobbboobb$
oobobooboobobbob$
oooboboboboooooo$
bboobobbbooooobb$
booooobobobobbbb$
ooobbbbobobooboo$
boobbobooboboooo!


EDIT: The shocking thing is that the flotilla appears together,not like in most flotilla soups, where a first ship appears and a second ship is edge-shot.
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Re: Soup search results

Postby Hdjensofjfnen » February 7th, 2019, 2:03 pm

testitemqlstudop wrote:xq4_27dee6z4eb7776 (MWSS on HWSS 2)
x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
boobbbbboobboobb$
bobbooooboooobob$
obobbobbbobooboo$
oobooooboobbboob$
ooooboobbbbbbboo$
oooboobobboobboo$
oboooobobobbbobo$
bobooobooooooobb$
bobobobboooboooo$
bobobbboobbboobb$
oobobooboobobbob$
oooboboboboooooo$
bboobobbbooooobb$
booooobobobobbbb$
ooobbbbobobooboo$
boobbobooboboooo!


That soup also has an LWSS shot to the north, making all three XWSSes in one soup.
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4b3o$6bo$o3b3o$2o$bo!
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Re: Soup search results

Postby testitemqlstudop » February 7th, 2019, 2:37 pm

Oh, wow! How did I miss that?

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Re: Soup search results

Postby alphazelf » February 7th, 2019, 6:28 pm

Professor variant in B3S23 C1, found by rliston

x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
bobbobboboobbobo$
oobbbobbooobbobo$
obobbooobboboooo$
bobbooooobbobooo$
oboobboboobbboob$
oobobooobbooobbb$
obbbboooooobbbbb$
oobbobobobbbobbo$
obbbboooooobobbo$
bboooobbooobbbbb$
boobooobbbobbbbo$
obbbooobbbbobbbo$
bbbobooooboobobo$
bobobooooboobooo$
bbobbooobbbbbooo$
oboooobbboobbbbo!
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Re: Soup search results

Postby Moosey » February 7th, 2019, 6:37 pm

alphazelf wrote:Professor variant in B3S23 C1, found by rliston

x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
bobbobboboobbobo$
oobbbobbooobbobo$
obobbooobboboooo$
bobbooooobbobooo$
oboobboboobbboob$
oobobooobbooobbb$
obbbboooooobbbbb$
oobbobobobbbobbo$
obbbboooooobobbo$
bboooobbooobbbbb$
boobooobbbobbbbo$
obbbooobbbbobbbo$
bbbobooooboobobo$
bobobooooboobooo$
bbobbooobbbbbooo$
oboooobbboobbbbo!

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Re: Soup search results

Postby A for awesome » February 8th, 2019, 2:54 pm

1067-gen diehard in C1, found by rliston:
x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
obbbbooobbboobbb$
obbbobboobbbobbo$
oobobobobbbbobbb$
boobbobbboooobob$
boobbobboooooobo$
boooooobbbobobbb$
bobboobobobobbbb$
obobooboboooobbo$
bboobbooobboobbo$
boboobooooooboob$
bboobooobbboobbb$
obbobobbbbbbbbbo$
ooooobobbobooboo$
oooobbbbobobobbo$
bbobbbbobbobbooo$
boboobbooobbooob!
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K=(Λu²)/2
Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt)

$$x_1=\eta x$$
$$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$
$$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$
$$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$

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Re: Soup search results

Postby A for awesome » February 9th, 2019, 11:54 am

Second occurrence of an xs44:
x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
bbobooobobobbobb$
bobbbbbobooobobb$
boobbbbbbboboooo$
boooooboboobbobo$
oobboobbobobboob$
booobbooobboobbo$
obbboobbobooobbo$
obbbooobbobooobo$
oboobbbobbbbobbb$
obbobbbooobobbbb$
oobbobobboobbboo$
bbobooboobobbobo$
oooobobboobboobb$
bobbbboobbboooob$
oobboooobbbobbbo$
bbbboobobbbooobo!
x₁=ηx
V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη)
K=(Λu²)/2
Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt)

$$x_1=\eta x$$
$$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$
$$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$
$$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$

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Re: Soup search results

Postby Apple Bottom » February 9th, 2019, 2:52 pm

A lot of messless_14h diehards have been found lately, all by carybe:

In C4_1, T = 1440:

#C messless_14h
#C C4_1 sample soup ? of ?
#C https://catagolue.appspot.com/object/messless_14h/b3s23/C4_1
#C https://catagolue.appspot.com/hashsoup/C4_1/l_aS7crURCNYZd2468016/b3s23
#C https://catagolue.appspot.com/haul/b3s23/C4_1/7064c06687499ea090dad818e4d10c4c
x = 31, y = 31, rule = B3/S23
booboooobobbboboooboobbobbooobb$
bboooooobboobbooooboboobbboobbo$
obbobbooooobbbobooooobbbbbbbboo$
oobobobbbbbbboooobbboboboooooob$
ooboobbbooboobooboboobboooobboo$
bbbooooooobbbbobbbbbbbboooboboo$
bbbooooobbobbbobbooobooboobbooo$
obbboobboobboooooobooboboobbooo$
bobobbooooobbbobbobbboooboobobb$
bobbbbobooobbobbobobooooboobobo$
obooobboboobbobobobbooobobbboob$
oooboboobbbobooooboobbbbbbobbob$
bbobbbobbobobobobbbbbbbobbobbbb$
ooobobooobobbbbobboooobobbbobbo$
oooobbbobobobbbobbbobboooooooob$
ooboobbobbooooobooooobbobbooboo$
boooooooobbobbbobbbobobobbboooo$
obbobbboboooobbobbbbobooobobooo$
bbbbobbobbbbbbbobobobobbobbbobb$
bobbobbbbbbooboooobobbboobobooo$
boobbbobooobbobobobboobobbooobo$
obobooboooobobobbobbooobobbbbob$
bboboobooobbbobbobbbooooobbobob$
ooobboobobooboooooobboobboobbbo$
ooobbooboobooobbobbbobbooooobbb$
oobobooobbbbbbbbobbbbooooooobbb$
oobboooobbooboboobooboobbbooboo$
boooooobobobbboooobbbbbbboboboo$
oobbbbbbbbooooobobbbooooobbobbo$
obboobbbooboboooobboobboooooobb$
bbooobbobboobooobobbbobooooboob!


T = 1426:

#C messless_14h
#C C4_1 sample soup ? of ?
#C https://catagolue.appspot.com/object/messless_14h/b3s23/C4_1
#C https://catagolue.appspot.com/hashsoup/C4_1/l_rgG4yUrMeCq47229843/b3s23
#C https://catagolue.appspot.com/haul/b3s23/C4_1/c85d03a3122c5ae81ccc3f95c2a8cee2
x = 31, y = 31, rule = B3/S23
obboboobbbobbbboooooooobbbbobbo$
bobbbbbbbooboooobbboobbobooooob$
bobbbbbobbbbobbobobbobbbboobbbb$
ooboooooobooobboobboobbooobobbo$
boobbobboboboobobbbooboobobobbb$
boooobobobooobbobooboobobboobbo$
bbbobboobobobbbbbbbbbbbooobobbo$
bobooooobbboobboooobbbboobboobb$
obbbobbbooooooboboboooobbooobbb$
obbbbobbobbobooobobobbobobbbbob$
oooooobboboooooobbbbobobboooboo$
ooboobbboobooboooboooooooobobbb$
obbbbobobbbobooooobooboobooooob$
obobbobooobbooboooobooobbbobbob$
obbobbbobbbooobobboooobbbbbbbob$
ooooooboooooooooooooooooboooooo$
bobbbbbbboooobbobooobbbobbbobbo$
bobbobbbooobooooboobbooobobbobo$
booooobooboobooooobobbbobobbbbo$
bbboboooooooobooobooboobbbooboo$
oobooobbobobbbboooooobobboooooo$
bobbbbobobbobobooobobbobbobbbbo$
bbbooobbooooboboboooooobbbobbbo$
bboobboobbbboooobboobbbooooobob$
obbobooobbbbbbbbbbboboboobbobbb$
obboobbobooboobobboooboboboooob$
bbbobobooboobbboboobobobbobboob$
obbobooobboobboobbooobooooooboo$
bbbboobbbbobbobobbobbbbobbbbbob$
booooobobboobbbooooboobbbbbbbob$
obbobbbboooooooobbbbobbboobobbo!


T = 1498:

#C messless_14h
#C C4_1 sample soup ? of ?
#C https://catagolue.appspot.com/object/messless_14h/b3s23/C4_1
#C https://catagolue.appspot.com/hashsoup/C4_1/l_xunNcW49Yxhf9844647/b3s23
#C https://catagolue.appspot.com/haul/b3s23/C4_1/e47b885b363068408f619c4fc7d5b301
x = 31, y = 31, rule = B3/S23
bboobbbobbobbbboooobboooboooobb$
bbbboooboooboooobobbbboooobobbb$
obbbbobobboooooooboooooooobbbbo$
oobbobbbboobboboobboobooooobbbo$
obbobooboobbobobooobobbooobobob$
oooooooboobbbooobbbobboooooboob$
boooooobobobbooooboobbbbooobbob$
oooooobbbobbbboobooboobbbbbbobo$
oooobobbbobbbooobboooobbooobbob$
obobbbboobobbboobooooboobooobob$
bbooobbooooboboboooboobbobboooo$
bboobooboobboboobbbbbbbbbbbbobb$
obobobooooobobboooooobbbbboboob$
oobbobboboobobbobbbbbboboobooob$
obooobobbbobobbbbbbooooooooboob$
ooooboooooboooboboooboooooboooo$
booboooooooobbbbbbobobbbobooobo$
boooboobobbbbbbobboboobobbobboo$
boobobbbbboooooobbobooooobobobo$
bbobbbbbbbbbbbboobobboobooboobb$
oooobbobbooboooboboboooobbooobb$
boboooboobooooboobbboboobbbbobo$
bobbooobboooobbooobbbobbboboooo$
obobbbbbboobooboobbbbobbboooooo$
bobbooobbbbooboooobboboboooooob$
boobooooobbobbbooobbboobooooooo$
bobobooobbobooobobobbooboobobbo$
obbboooooboobboobobboobbbbobboo$
obbbboooooooobooooooobbobobbbbo$
bbboboooobbbboboooobooobooobbbb$
bboooobooobboooobbbbobbobbboobb!


T = 1432:

#C messless_14h
#C C4_1 sample soup ? of ?
#C https://catagolue.appspot.com/object/messless_14h/b3s23/C4_1
#C https://catagolue.appspot.com/hashsoup/C4_1/l_DCACGT76Wq4G9579049/b3s23
#C https://catagolue.appspot.com/haul/b3s23/C4_1/1d556a55b67c1d8cf8629ec220e93afd
x = 31, y = 31, rule = B3/S23
oooobobbobobboboboooobbbooboooo$
obbboooboooooboobobobobbbbooobo$
oobbbooobobooobooboobobbbbobbbo$
oobbobbboobboobobbobobbbobbbbbo$
boobbbooobbobbbobobobbbobobobob$
obbboobbbbbbbobobobobboobobbooo$
obbobbbooobooboobobooobobboboob$
bbbboooobobobobobobbboboobobobb$
bbbbbobbbboobbboobobobbbobooboo$
boobbboobbboooboooobbbboobbooob$
obbobbobobbooobobbobbbobbbbbboo$
ooobooobbbbbbbbooboboooooboboob$
oboobbbbooooobbooboboobbobbooob$
oobboooobobbbboobbbbooboboboobo$
bbobbbbboobooboooobbbbbbobbbbob$
ooooooooooooooobooooooooooooooo$
bobbbbobbbbbboooobooboobbbbbobb$
obooboboboobbbboobbbboboooobboo$
booobbobbooboboobbooooobbbboobo$
booboboooooboboobbbbbbbbooobooo$
oobbbbbbobbbobbobooobbobobbobbo$
booobboobbbboooobooobbboobbboob$
ooboobobbboboboobbboobbbbobbbbb$
bboboboobobbboboboboboboooobbbb$
boobobbobooobobooboobooobbbobbo$
ooobboboobbobobobobbbbbbboobbbo$
bobobobobbbobobobbbobbooobbboob$
obbbbbobbbobobboboobboobbbobboo$
obbbobbbbobooboobooobobooobbboo$
obooobbbboboboboobooooobooobbbo$
ooooboobbboooobobobbobobboboooo!


C4_4, T = 1410:

#C messless_14h
#C C4_4 sample soup ? of ?
#C https://catagolue.appspot.com/object/messless_14h/b3s23/C4_4
#C https://catagolue.appspot.com/hashsoup/C4_4/l_w3wudhXkzXta8294299/b3s23
#C https://catagolue.appspot.com/haul/b3s23/C4_4/e41e872fbbe9af61a8767734a34041e9
x = 32, y = 32, rule = B3/S23
bbboobbbbbbbobboobbbbbobboboobob$
obooooooobobbbbboobbbobobboobobb$
bobboobooooobobooobbboboobbobbob$
obbooooooooobobbbbbbbobooobboboo$
ooobbooobobobobbobbbbobooobboooo$
bobbbboboobobooooobbooobbbboooob$
obboobobobbbbbobboooboobooooobob$
bboooboobooobobboobbbbbbobboooob$
boooobbbbobbooobobbbobbbboobooob$
obbbboobboobbboooooooboooboooobb$
boooooobbbbobbbobbobobobobbbooob$
bbbbbobboooboooobooobobboboooobb$
bbbbbbobbobooobbooboobbobbbbbbbo$
bbbbbbobbooobbooobboobbooboooobb$
boobboooboboobobooobobooboobbbbb$
oooboobooobbooooobobooobbbobbobo$
obobbobbbooobobooooobboooboobooo$
bbbbboobooboboooboboobobooobboob$
bbooooboobboobbooobbooobbobbbbbb$
obbbbbbbobbooboobbooobobbobbbbbb$
bboooobobboboooboooobooobbobbbbb$
booobbbobobobobbobbbobbbboooooob$
bboooobooobooooooobbboobboobbbbo$
boooboobbbbobbbobooobbobbbboooob$
boooobbobbbbbboobboboooboobooobb$
boboooooboobooobbobbbbboboboobbo$
boooobbbbooobboooooboboobobbbbob$
oooobbooobobbbbobbobobobooobbooo$
oobobbooobobbbbbbbobooooooooobbo$
bobbobboobobbboooboboooooboobbob$
bboboobbobobbboobbbbbobooooooobo$
boboobobbobbbbboobbobbbbbbboobbb!


D4_+4, T = 1416:

#C messless_14h
#C D4_+4 sample soup ? of ?
#C https://catagolue.appspot.com/object/messless_14h/b3s23/D4_+4
#C https://catagolue.appspot.com/hashsoup/D4_+4/l_TfRgQFVaQsuq7643970/b3s23
#C https://catagolue.appspot.com/haul/b3s23/D4_+4/f5a9e81d665f400599d24e8ec7a4805a
x = 32, y = 32, rule = B3/S23
boooooooboooooboobooooobooooooob$
boboboobooooboobboobooooboobobob$
oobooboboooobooooooboooobobooboo$
oboobbboooooooboobooooooobbboobo$
booobooooboobbboobbbooboooobooob$
boooobboobbbobboobbobbboobboooob$
oobbobbbbobobobbbbobobobbbbobboo$
obbboooooboobbbbbbbboobooooobbbo$
bbboooooobboboooooobobboooooobbb$
oobbooobbbboobbbbbboobbbbooobboo$
obbobobbbbbbobobbobobbbbbbobobbo$
obobbobboooobboooobboooobbobbobo$
oobobboobbobooobbooobobboobboboo$
oobboooboobbboobboobbboobooobboo$
bbbobbboobobobobboboboboobbbobbb$
obobooobboboobboobboobobbooobobo$
obobooobboboobboobboobobbooobobo$
bbbobbboobobobobboboboboobbbobbb$
oobboooboobbboobboobbboobooobboo$
oobobboobbobooobbooobobboobboboo$
obobbobboooobboooobboooobbobbobo$
obbobobbbbbbobobbobobbbbbbobobbo$
oobbooobbbboobbbbbboobbbbooobboo$
bbboooooobboboooooobobboooooobbb$
obbboooooboobbbbbbbboobooooobbbo$
oobbobbbbobobobbbbobobobbbbobboo$
boooobboobbbobboobbobbboobboooob$
booobooooboobbboobbbooboooobooob$
oboobbboooooooboobooooooobbboobo$
oobooboboooobooooooboooobobooboo$
boboboobooooboobboobooooboobobob$
boooooooboooooboobooooobooooooob!


At the rate that these are popping up, I'd say expect to see more soon, and with longer lifetimes.
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Re: Soup search results

Postby A for awesome » February 9th, 2019, 5:56 pm

A fourfold p46 in C4_4, found by carybe a while ago:
x = 32, y = 32, rule = B3/S23
obobbobbbbboobooobboboobbbbooboo$
ooooboooboobboooobbboboobbobobob$
bbooobobboooobooobbooooboobobooo$
oobooboobbooobbboooooobbboobooob$
obobbbbobbbbbobooboobboboobboobb$
bobobooobboboobbbobobbbobbobbboo$
bbooobbbbbbbooobbbbbobbbbbobooob$
bbobobbbbobooobbobooooobbbooobob$
bobbbobbboobooboobobobbbbbbbbbbb$
ooobobbobboobobbooooobboobbbboob$
oboobbbobbbbobbooobbbboobbobooob$
booobbooooboobbbbbbbobobobbboobo$
oboooobobobbbboooboboobooooboobo$
bbboobbooobboobbbbobbboooooobbob$
bbbobobbboobbbbbobbobbbbbobbbooo$
ooooobboooobobobbbbobobobbbobooo$
ooobobbbobobobbbboboboooobbooooo$
ooobbbobbbbbobbobbbbboobbbobobbb$
bobboooooobbbobbbboobbooobboobbb$
oboobooooboobobooobbbboboboooobo$
oboobbbobobobbbbbbbooboooobbooob$
booobobboobbbbooobbobbbbobbboobo$
boobbbboobbooooobboboobbobbobooo$
bbbbbbbbbbboboboobooboobbbobbbob$
bobooobbbooooobobbooobobbbbobobb$
booobobbbbbobbbbbooobbbbbbbooobb$
oobbbobbobbbobobbboobobbooobobob$
bboobboobobbooboobobbbbbobbbbobo$
boooboobbboooooobbbooobboobooboo$
ooobobooboooobboooboooobbobooobb$
bobobobboobobbboooobbooboooboooo$
ooboobbbboobobboooboobbbbbobbobo!

Nontrivial P60 beehive hassler dimer from D4_+1, also found by carybe:
x = 31, y = 31, rule = B3/S23
bobbobobbobbbobbbobbbobbobobbob$
boboobbobboobbobobboobbobboobob$
bobbobooboooobooobooooboobobbob$
boobbobbobbobooooobobbobbobboob$
bobobboooobboobbboobboooobbobob$
bobbooboooobbooboobbooooboobbob$
obbobbbbooboobooobooboobbbbobbo$
oboobbbbbobbobbobbobbobbbbboobo$
oobbbobobbooobobobooobbobobbboo$
obbobbbobooooooooooooobobbbobbo$
oboobbbbobbbbbbobbbbbbobbbboobo$
oobbooobbboobbbobbboobbbooobboo$
ooboobbbbobooooooooobobbbbooboo$
bboobobobbbobooboobobbboboboobb$
ooobobbbbbbobobobobobbbbbbobooo$
bobbboooooboobbbbboobooooobbbob$
ooobobbbbbbobobobobobbbbbbobooo$
bboobobobbbobooboobobbboboboobb$
ooboobbbbobooooooooobobbbbooboo$
oobbooobbboobbbobbboobbbooobboo$
oboobbbbobbbbbbobbbbbbobbbboobo$
obbobbbobooooooooooooobobbbobbo$
oobbbobobbooobobobooobbobobbboo$
oboobbbbbobbobbobbobbobbbbboobo$
obbobbbbooboobooobooboobbbbobbo$
bobbooboooobbooboobbooooboobbob$
bobobboooobboobbboobboooobbobob$
boobbobbobbobooooobobbobbobboob$
bobbobooboooobooobooooboobobbob$
boboobbobboobbobobboobbobboobob$
bobbobobbobbbobbbobbbobbobobbob!
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V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη)
K=(Λu²)/2
Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt)

$$x_1=\eta x$$
$$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$
$$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$
$$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$

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Re: Soup search results

Postby Ian07 » February 9th, 2019, 10:29 pm

47575M found by Adam Goucher:
x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
bbbbbooboobboboo$
bbobbobbbbooobob$
obbooboboboobbbo$
boboobbboobbooob$
ooobbbbbbbboobbo$
bobooobbbboooboo$
boboooobobooobbb$
oboobobbobbbooob$
bboooobboooobbob$
bbbbbboobboboboo$
obbbobbobbooooob$
bboooobbbooooooo$
obboobboboobooob$
obbobbboobbbobob$
oobooboboooooooo$
oooooobbbobobbbb!
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Re: Soup search results

Postby muzik » February 10th, 2019, 6:02 am

wow.
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Re: Soup search results

Postby calcyman » February 10th, 2019, 11:03 am

Ian07 wrote:47575M found by Adam Goucher:


47484-generation methuselah with 18 live cells:

x = 23, y = 18, rule = B3/S23
21bo$21bo$20bobo2$6b3o9$12bo$bo10b2o$obo$o2bo$b3o!


Can it be reduced further?
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Re: Soup search results

Postby Kazyan » February 10th, 2019, 11:16 am

calcyman wrote:47484-generation methuselah with 18 live cells:

x = 23, y = 18, rule = B3/S23
21bo$21bo$20bobo2$6b3o9$12bo$bo10b2o$obo$o2bo$b3o!


Can it be reduced further?


It can: 47487 generations and 16 live cells.

x = 22, y = 17, rule = B3/S23
19b3o$20bo$6bo$6bo$6bo8$11bo$o10b2o$o$obo$b2o!
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Re: Soup search results

Postby A for awesome » February 10th, 2019, 11:17 am

calcyman wrote:47484-generation methuselah with 18 live cells:

x = 23, y = 18, rule = B3/S23
21bo$21bo$20bobo2$6b3o9$12bo$bo10b2o$obo$o2bo$b3o!


Can it be reduced further?

16 cells, 47487 gens, slightly smaller bounding box:
x = 22, y = 17, rule = B3/S23
$19b3o2$6bo13bo$6bo$6bo8$11bo$o10b2o$o$obo$b2o!
x₁=ηx
V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη)
K=(Λu²)/2
Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt)

$$x_1=\eta x$$
$$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$
$$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$
$$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$

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Re: Soup search results

Postby calcyman » February 10th, 2019, 11:35 am

Kazyan wrote:It can: 47487 generations and 16 live cells.

x = 22, y = 17, rule = B3/S23
19b3o$20bo$6bo$6bo$6bo8$11bo$o10b2o$o$obo$b2o!


Impressive! That makes it the smallest methuselah that's longer-lived than 32829M. And in terms of width+height+population, it's the smallest one that's longer-lived than simeks' Lidka predecessor.
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Re: Soup search results

Postby testitemqlstudop » February 10th, 2019, 11:41 am

wow, congratulations!

(so much for the 42K is the answer to life)
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Re: Soup search results

Postby calcyman » February 10th, 2019, 12:06 pm

testitemqlstudop wrote:wow, congratulations!

(so much for the 42K is the answer to life)


Interestingly, 42 now has a double special significance in Catagolue:

  • The last time there was a contiguous range of still-life bit counts was {..., 40, 41, 42};
  • The last time there was a contiguous range of methuselah bins was {..., 40, 41, 42};

and, with high probability, that will remain the case forever.
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Re: Soup search results

Postby dvgrn » February 10th, 2019, 1:33 pm

calcyman wrote:
testitemqlstudop wrote:wow, congratulations!

(so much for the 42K is the answer to life)


Interestingly, 42 now has a double special significance in Catagolue:

  • The last time there was a contiguous range of still-life bit counts was {..., 40, 41, 42};
  • The last time there was a contiguous range of methuselah bins was {..., 40, 41, 42};

and, with high probability, that will remain the case forever.

That last is not an official prediction, though, right? It seems vaguely possible that the methuselah bin range might fill back in eventually -- weirder things have happened.

A new 41K methuselah showed up today, too, and even that has been fairly rare up to now but doesn't seem so impressive any more:

Soup l_JQLfjuLih9QJ11966861 was found on 2019-02-10 at 07:13:18 UTC and is owned by apgoucher@gmx.com
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Re: Soup search results

Postby Hdjensofjfnen » February 10th, 2019, 5:06 pm

calcyman wrote:
Kazyan wrote:It can: 47487 generations and 16 live cells.

x = 22, y = 17, rule = B3/S23
19b3o$20bo$6bo$6bo$6bo8$11bo$o10b2o$o$obo$b2o!


Impressive! That makes it the smallest methuselah that's longer-lived than 32829M. And in terms of width+height+population, it's the smallest one that's longer-lived than simeks' Lidka predecessor.

Congratulations!
Although there will inevitably be a record-breaker in the near future :lol:
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Re: Soup search results

Postby dvgrn » February 10th, 2019, 11:39 pm

Hdjensofjfnen wrote:Congratulations!
Although there will inevitably be a record-breaker in the near future :lol:

Depends on your definition of "near future". This is about as big a jump past lots of empty 1000-tick Catagolue bins as my ridiculously lucky early 42K methuselah was. Even with lots of people upgrading to methuselah-searching versions of apgsearch, this one might take a while to beat.

-- Also it depends on your definition of "record-breaker". Here's a way to add two ticks at the cost of two more columns, so it's only an improvement if longevity is more important than bounding box:

#C 47489-tick,16-cell methuselah
x = 24, y = 17, rule = B3/S23
21b3o2$8bo13bo$8bo$8bo8$13bo$obo10b2o$2bo$4bo$3b2o!


If each new methuselah is named after someone married to (someone with the name of) the previous record-holder, what's the name for this new 16x16 -- "Marge", maybe?
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Re: Soup search results

Postby calcyman » February 11th, 2019, 5:38 am

dvgrn wrote:
Hdjensofjfnen wrote:Congratulations!
Although there will inevitably be a record-breaker in the near future :lol:

Depends on your definition of "near future". This is about as big a jump past lots of empty 1000-tick Catagolue bins as my ridiculously lucky early 42K methuselah was. Even with lots of people upgrading to methuselah-searching versions of apgsearch, this one might take a while to beat.


Indeed! Perhaps 'Jeanne' would be an appropriate name for a methuselah with such anomalous longevity? This plot illustrates the surprising nature quite well: http://i.imgur.com/jNRUznm.png

However, the longevity of this 47K methuselah is not nearly as disputed as that of Madame Calment... https://medium.com/@yurideigin/jaccuse- ... 87fc0c3133

-- Also it depends on your definition of "record-breaker". Here's a way to add two ticks at the cost of two more columns, so it's only an improvement if longevity is more important than bounding box:


Well, if longevity were more important than bounding box, it would be trumped by a glider aimed at a very distant blinker. I like Oscar's L/MCPS metric, which gives a ratio of 1283.4 for 47487M. Again, the longest-lived methuselah which beats that is simeks' remarkable 9x6 Lidka variant (1941.7).
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