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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Posted: January 14th, 2019, 2:54 pm
by BlinkerSpawn
chris_c wrote:
Entity Valkyrie wrote:Reduced P48 LWSS gun:
This kind of thing should definitely allow a smaller pseudo-p16. Here is the current version for reference:

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x = 177, y = 176, rule = LifeHistory
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One fewer row and column by redoing the last insertion, leaving the others in place.
Welding to pull in another diagonal doesn't quite work.
Redoing the rest might save another few rows, I'm not sure. (EDIT: Got another row for free pulling in the corner guns)

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x = 176, y = 174, rule = LifeHistory
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3BA15.ABAB4.B6A3BA3B.5B4.A2.3ABA.2A4.6B2A2BA4B$10.A.B.2BA5.A.4BA.A18.
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13.2BA3BA12B3.3BA.4A.3B4.2B3A3.3A2B4.4B9.2BA2B22.A.ABA.2A$13.A.A.A.A.
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11BA12BABAB4.A4BA$13.A.A.A.A.2A3.3A.AB2.2B.A2BABA4.3AB.A10.2B.AB.BAB.
3B3.A.A7.7BA3BA11BA7BA3BA12B.2A2B3.B4A$12.2A.2A8.B2A.BA4.BA.A4BA2.3AB
A.A10.B2A.4A.4B3.2A7.4B.4B4A9BABA8B4A12B2.4B3.4B$24.5A2B4.2A.A.2BA3.A
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2B.2BAB2.B.A.2A50.2A$99.2A.2A4.AB3.BA4.2A.2A51.B!

Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Posted: January 14th, 2019, 8:00 pm
by Sokwe
Here's a stator minimization for the weld in the p48 LWSS gun with no improvement to the bounding box:

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x = 71, y = 67, rule = LifeHistory
10.2A.2A4.2B3.2B4.2A.2A$10.2A.A.B2.2A2B.2B2A2.B.A.2A$13.A.BA3B2A.2A3B
AB.A$13.2ABA5B.5BAB2A5.B$14.2BA5B.5BA2B5.BA2B$8.A.A6.A3BA.A3BA8.3A3B$
6.3A.3A3.2B3AB.B3A2B5.BA3B2A2B$5.A7.A2.3BA2B.2BA3B5.2A2B3AB.B$5.BAB6A
3.3A2B.2B3A4.BA.AB.3B.3B$6.2AB.B.A3.B3A2B.2B3AB3.3A.4A.B2AB$6.B.AB.B
2A2.2B2A2B.2B2A2B.BA3BA4.AB2A2B$7.A.A.BABA.4BAB.BA5B2A2B.A.2A.ABABAB$
8.A.BA3B2.BA2BA.A2BA2B.BABABA.2A.A.2B2AB4.B5.B$10.BA3BABA3BA.A3BA2.2B
2ABA4.A3BAB4.3B3.3B$9.2BA3BA2BA2BABA2BAB3.B2AB.4A.3A4.4BA3.A4B$10.BA
3B3.3A3B3AB3.3B.3B.BA.AB3.4BA.A.A.A4B$10.BA2BA4.3B2.3B5.B.B3A2B2A5.5B
2A.2A5B$12.A6.BA3.4B5.2B2A3BAB5.7B.7B$10.A.A.A4.BAB3.4B5.3B3A7.7B.7B$
9.A.A.2A4.3B4.4B6.2BAB7.B2A4B.4B2AB$9.A.A6.A3BA4.3BA7.B8.BAB4A.4ABAB$
10.2A4.3A.A.3A3.3BA15.2BA3BA.A3BA2B$15.A3.2AB3.A3.3AB14.2BA2B.A.A.2BA
2B$15.A.2A2.2ABA.A3.4B14.2B3A3.3A2B$10.B5.A2.2A2B2A.A4.4B15.3B3.3B$9.
4B4.2A2.2ABA.2A4.4B15.B5.B$9.2B3AB4.A2.A.A.A2.A3.3BA13.B$7.3B6A3.4A.
2A2.2A3.4BA4BA2BA20BA2BAB$7.3BAB3A.A6.A8.3B3A8BA23BA$5.2B.BA.2BA.2AB
3.A.A7.2A9BA3BA19BA3BA$5.3B.4A.4A3.2A7.2B2A.8B4A20B4A$3.4B2A4.AB3AB
10.2BA39B$2.3B2A.A.2A.A2B2AB9.4B.3B$3.B2A2BA.2A.A.2A3B7.4B.2B2A$3.B3A
BA4.2A4B7.4B3.2A2B$4.4A.4A.3B8.2A2B5.BA2B$2A2.B2A.A2B.AB.2B7.2B2A7.4B
17.2A$2A3.A.3ABA3B8.2BAB9.4B16.A.A$6.6A3B7.4B11.4B17.A$4A3.B3A2B8.4B
13.2B2A12.4A.2A2.2A$A2.AB4.4B7.4B15.2A2B11.A2.B.A.A2.A$.4B6.B7.2A2B3.
2A12.BA2B8.2A2.2ABA.2A$2.3B.2B.4B5.2B2A5.A13.4B6.A2.2A3BA.A$2.8BA5B.
2BAB4.A16.4B4.A.2A2.2ABA.A$.9B2A8B3.4A16.4B3.A3.BAB3.A$2B3A6B2A6B3.A
4.A2.2A12.2B2A3.3A.A.3A4.2A$3BABA4B2A6B3.A.2AB2A2.A9.2A3.2A2B4.2AB2A
6.A.A$.3B2A10B5.A.BAB2.2A2.A6.A2.A3.BA2B4.3B4.2A.A.A$14.2B4.2A.A2B2A
2.5A3.A.A.A4.4B3.3B4.A.A.A$.3B2A11B.A2B.BABA.A.A5.A.A2.A.2A4.4B3.2B6.
A$3BABA4B2A6BAB2AB.A2.A.A.2A.2A.2A.A2.BAB3.3B2.3B4.B2A2B$2B3A6B2A5BA
2B.A.A.2A.A.2A.A2.B2.2AB3A2.10B3.3A2B$.9B2A4B4.2A.A.A3.A3.B.ABABAB.B
3AB.13B3A3B$2.8BA4B6.A.A.A3.A.3ABA2.2A3B3AB.2BA2B.2BA4B3A2B$2.3B.2B.
3B.2B6.A2.A5.2A.B2AB.B.3B3A.2B3AB.B3AB2.3A2B.A$.4B8.2B7.2A9.A.A2.A.2A
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2.3B.AB.A$4A3.2A.7B2.A8.A2.A3.A3.2A.A4.6B.6B3.A.B.3B$6.A.2B9A10.A.A.
2A.2A3.A2.A3.5B.5B3.B6ABA$2A4.A.A.7A2.3A6.2A.2A.A.A.2A.A.2A2.6B.6B2.A
7.A$2A3.2A.2A2.4AB.A2.A18.A.A4.6B.6B3.3A.3A$8.A.BA2.B4.2A19.A.A5.3B2A
.2A3B6.A.A$5.2A.ABA.A28.A3.4B2ABA.AB2A4B$6.A.2B.A32.2A3BA3B.3BA3B2A$
6.A.3A33.A.3B3AB.B3A3B.A$7.2A32.2A.A.B2.4B.4B2.B.A.2A$41.2A.2A4.2B3.
2B4.2A.2A!
Unfortunately, the p6 rotors cannot be brought closer together according to JLS.

Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Posted: January 15th, 2019, 12:05 am
by Kazyan
Further reductions to the pseudo p16:

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x = 168, y = 167, rule = LifeHistory
50.2A32.2A.2A4.2B3.2B4.2A.2A25.2A$5.2A.2A4.2B3.2B4.2A.2A19.A.3A30.2A.
A.B2.4B.4B2.B.A.2A23.3A.A$5.2A.A.B2.2A2B.2B2A2.B.A.2A19.A.2B.A32.A.4B
2AB.B2A4B.A25.A.2B.A$8.A.2BA2BAB.BA2BA2B.A6.B14.2A.ABA.A31.2A3B2A2B.
2B2A3B2A24.A.ABA.2A$8.2A2BA2BAB.BA2BA2B2A4.4B16.A.BA2.B4.2A20.A3.5BAB
A.ABA5B17.2A4.B2.AB.A$9.3BA3BA.A3BA3B3.3B2AB8.2A3.2A.2A2.4AB.A2.A18.A
.A5.3B2A.2A3B6.A.A10.A2.A.B4A2.2A.2A3.2A$3.A.A6.BA2BA.A2BAB5.3BA2B2AB
6.2A4.A.A.7A2.3AB17.A.A4.6B.6B3.3A.3A8.3A2.7A.A.A4.2A$.3A.3A3.3B2AB.B
2A3B3.B.2B5AB12.A.2B9A10.A.2A.A.A.2A.A.2A2.6B.6B2.A7.A10.9A2B.A$A7.A
2.6B.6B2.3B.BAB.2B.2B4.4A3.2A.7B2.A7.3A.A.2A.2A3.A2.A3.5B.5B3.B4AB3A
9.A2.7B.2A3.4A$3AB4AB3.5B.5B3.4B.4A.B2A4.A2.AB6.6B.2A6.A4.B3.A3.2A.A
4.6B.6B3.B.B.ABA10.2A.6B6.BA2.A$.ABA.B.B3.B3A2B.2B3AB.2B4A4.AB2A2B3.
4B8.2B7.2A2.A2.3AB2A2B2A.A.2A3.B2ABAB.BAB2AB2.BAB.2A.A6.2A7.2B8.4B$.A
.2A.BAB2.2AB2AB.B2AB2A.BABABA.2A.A.ABA2B3.3B.2B.3B.2B6.A2.A.A.A4.A.A
2.A.BA.BAB.BA2BAB.BA2BAB.BA2B.A.A6.A2.A6.2B.3B.2B.3B$2.A.A.2BAB.2ABAB
A.ABAB2A2BABA.A.2A.ABABAB4.BA5B4A2B6.A.A.A.2A.2A.BA2B.A.BA2BAB.2B3AB.
B3AB2.BA3B.A6.A.A.A6.6B3A4B$3.A.3BAB2.A3BA.A3BAB.2B2ABA4.4A2B3.2AB2A
3BA2B2A2B4.2A.A.A3.A.2ABAB2.6BA8B.8BA3B8.A.A.2A4.6B2A3BA3B$5.3BA3BA2B
AB.BA2BA4.2AB.4A.4B3.B2AB2A4BA2B2A4BAB.B.A.2A.A3.B.B3ABA.2BA17BA3BA5.
2A.A.B.A9B2A2BABA4B$4.A3BA4B3A3B3AB4.2B.2B.BAB.3B3.3BA2BA3BA2BA5B2ABA
.A2.A.A.2A.A2.B2.A3BAB2.10B3.BA3B6.A2.A.2A11BA5BA3B$5.3BAB3.10B6.B5A
2B.B5.3B2A5B2A4B.BAB.B2AB.A.A.2A.2A.2A.A2.BAB3.3B2.3B4.BA2BA3.2A.A.AB
AB.A2B.8B5A3B$5.A2BAB4.3B2.3B7.B2A2BA3B19.2B4.2A.BAB2A.A5.A.A2.A.2A4.
4B3.AB6.A5.A2.ABABA.2A4.2B$7.A6.2B3.4B8.B2A3B7.3B2A5B2A3B5.A.ABA2.A.
5A3.A.A.A4.4B3.BAB4.A.A.A4.2A2.3B.A5.7B5A3B$5.A.A.A4.BAB3.4B7.4B8.3BA
2BA3BA2BA4B3.A.5A2.A2.A5.A2.A3.A3B4.3B4.2A.A.A5.5A.A3.8BA5BA3B$4.A.A.
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I tried using a single Rich's p16 to filter both a glider stream and a LWSS stream (upper left), but couldn't quite get the phasing to work out. Perhaps someone else can.

Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Posted: January 15th, 2019, 12:58 am
by Sokwe
Kazyan wrote:Further reductions to the pseudo p16
Stator reduction:

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x = 168, y = 167, rule = LifeHistory
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Posted: January 15th, 2019, 7:35 am
by chris_c
Kazyan wrote:Further reductions to the pseudo p16:
Glad to see some work on the top-left since I had already been having a go at the bottom right. With a few more tweaks I got down to 164x162:

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x = 164, y = 162, rule = LifeHistory
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Kazyan wrote: I tried using a single Rich's p16 to filter both a glider stream and a LWSS stream (upper left), but couldn't quite get the phasing to work out. Perhaps someone else can.
The two closest p16's are out of phase by 3 ticks. Seeing as all other periods in the pattern are even I don't see how this is reconcilable. The p16 that deletes the LWSS on the other side is out by an even phase but is placed on the wrong color. Seems like we are out of luck there as well.

EDIT: Flipping a couple of p12's saves a row at the top. EDIT2 and also a column by moving the p16's closer together:

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x = 163, y = 161, rule = LifeHistory
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8.4B4.2B3A3.3A2B13.2A7B.BA2BA15.A.AB.A$7.2BA5BA7.3BA19.A.AB.A12.2A2.
2BA.A2B.BA.2A7.4B5.3B3.3B16.4B2ABA.BA2B17.B2A.A$.4A3.2BA3B8.4B19.2A.B
2A.A15.B3A.4A.2AB8.3BA5.B5.B18.3B3A2.BAB20.BA$.A2.AB4.A2BA7.4B23.A.2A
2.A4.2A6.2A3BA4.ABA2BA7.3BA3.B26.3BAB2.BABA3.A$2.4B6.A7.4B3.2A11.2A3.
2A.AB2.4BA.A2.A5.5BA.2A.A.4BA6.B3A3BA2BA20BA2BA4B3.BA.A.2BA$3.3B.BA.
4B5.3AB5.A11.2A4.A.A.7B2.3A4.A4B.A.2A.A5B6.12BA23BA4B4.A4BA$3.5B3A6B.
3BA4.A19.A.ABA6B2A8.A2BABA4.A3B2A5.9BA3BA19BA3BA.3BA3.B4A$2.5BA3BA8BA
3.4A12.4A3.AB.B6A2.A9.B2A.4A.3AB5.2A2B.6B4A20BA3B2.ABAB3.4B$.3B3A4BA
8B3.A4.A11.A2.AB6.6B.2A9.2A.AB.2BA.A2B4.2B2A34B2A3.2A2B$.3BA5B2A7B3.A
.5A12.4B8.2B7.2A7.3A3B2A.B4.2BAB.3B31.2B4.4B$2.3B5A7B5.A.A2B2.2A11.3B
.2B.3B.2B6.A2.A6.A5BA2B4.4B.4B31.3B4.3BA$15.2B4.2A.4BA2.A10.4B2A6BA6.
A.A.A7.3BA2B4.4B3.2B2A14.2A14.3B5.ABAB$2.3B5A8B.2BA.BABA.A.2A9.A3BA2B
A4BABA4.2A.A.A7.A2BA5.4B5.2A2B12.A.A13.5A5.2A2B$.3BA5B2A9B3A.A2.A11.A
4BA2BA10BAB.A.A.2A6.A6.2A2B7.BA2B11.A13.3A.A.3A4.4B$.3B3A4BA9BA.B.A.
2A11.A3B2AB2A9B3A2B.A2.A12.2B2A9.4B4.2A2.2A.4A8.A3.BAB3.A4.3BA$2.5BA
3BA5B4.2A.A.A14.4B2A10B.BAB.ABAB.A.2A8.2BAB11.4B3.A2.A.A.B2.A8.A.2A2.
AB2A.A4.ABAB$3.5B3A5B6.A.A.A27.2B4.2A.3B2A2.A7.4B13.4B4.2A.AB2A2.2A7.
A2.2A3BA.A5.2A2B$3.3B.BA.3B.2B6.A2.A15.4B2A9B5.A.A2B2.2A7.4B15.2B2A4.
A.A3B2A2.A7.2A2.A2BA.2A5.4B$2.4B8.2B7.2A15.A3B2AB2A9B3.A.ABABA8.4B17.
2A2B3.A.AB2A2.2A.A8.A2.B.A.A2.A4.3BA$.A2.AB6.6B.2A19.A4BA2BA9BA3.A4.A
7.2A2B19.BA2B3.A3.BAB3.A8.4A.2A2.2A5.ABAB$.4A3.AB.B6A2.A20.A3BA2BA10B
A3.4A7.2B2A21.4B3.3A.A.3A4.2A7.A12.2A2B$7.A.ABA6B2A22.4B2A8B.3AB4.A7.
2BAB23.4B4.2AB2A6.A.A4.A.A13.4B$.2A4.A.A.7B2.3A19.3B.2B.4B5.4B5.A4.4B
17.B7.4B4.3B4.2A.A.A4.2A15.3BA$.2A3.2A.AB2.4BA.A2.A18.4B6.B7.4B3.2A3.
4B16.4B7.2B2A3.3B4.A.A.A23.ABAB$9.A.2A2.A4.2A18.A2.AB4.4B7.4B6.4B15.
3BA2B8.2A2B3.2B6.A26.2A2B$6.2A.B2A.A26.4A3.3B2AB8.3BA4.2A2B15.4B2A3B
7.BAB2.2BA4.B2A2B25.4B$7.A.AB.A33.3BA2B2AB7.3BA2.2B2A15.B.4B2A2B6.9BA
3.3A2B26.3BA$7.A.3A28.2A3.B.2B5AB8.3A3BAB15.3B.3B.BA.2B4.8B2A3B3A3B
26.ABAB$8.2A30.2A2.3B.BAB.2B.2B7.6B5.2A9.4B.4A.A2B4.5B.2BA4B3A2B28.2A
2B$44.4B.4A.B2A6.7B4.A2.A7.5BA4.ABA3B.3BA2B.5B2.3A2B.A27.4B$43.2B4A4.
AB2A2B4.7B4.A.A.A6.B2A2BA.2A.A.2A5BABAB.6B.B2AB.A.A27.3BA$43.BABABA.
2A.A.ABA2B2.2A7B2.2A.A.A5.3B2A.A.2A.A2B2AB.6B.6B2.3B.AB.A27.ABAB$42.
2BABA.A.2A.ABABAB3.2A.B2A2B.3B.A.A.2A4.3BABA4.A5B.6B.6B3.A.B.3B28.2A
2B$43.2B2ABA4.4A2B6.BABA.2A2B2A.A2.A6.2BA.4A.4B3.5B.5B3.B6ABA28.4B$
45.2AB.4A.4B8.BAB2.3B.BABA.A.2A3.2B.AB.3B.3B2.3BA2B.2BA3B2.A7.A29.3BA
$45.2B.2B.BAB.3B6.4B5.2A.AB3A2.A5.2B2A4B.B3.2B3AB.B3A2B3.3A.3A31.ABAB
$47.B5A2B.B7.2A8.A.BAB2.2A6.3B2A4B5.A2B2A.2A2BA6.A.A34.2A2B$47.B2A2BA
3B9.A8.A.5A10.2BA3B3.2A6B.6B2A41.4B$49.B2A3B7.3A7.2A.A4.A10.4B4.A6B2A
.2A6BA41.3BA$49.4B9.A9.A2.A.3A12.B6.A.2A5B.5B2A.A42.ABA$50.B23.2A.A
18.2A.A.B2.B2AB.B2AB2.B.A.2A40.2A$96.2A.2A4.BA3.AB4.2A.2A41.B!

Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Posted: January 15th, 2019, 11:04 am
by calcyman
Sokwe wrote:Unfortunately, the p6 rotors cannot be brought closer together according to JLS.
Did you only check stator welds (p1), or did you also do a search for an arbitrary p6 which produces both sparks?

Incidentally, at this separation a p12 is equally good:

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x = 71, y = 67, rule = LifeHistory
10.2A.2A4.2B3.2B4.2A.2A$10.2A.A.B2.2A2B.2B2A2.B.A.2A$13.A.BA3B2A.2A3B
AB.A$13.2ABA5B.5BAB2A5.B$14.2BA5B.5BA2B5.BA2B$8.A.A6.A3BA.A3BA8.3A3B$
6.3A.3A3.2B3AB.B3A2B5.BA3B2A2B$5.A7.A2.3BA2B.2BA3B5.2A2B3AB.B$5.BAB6A
3.3A2B.2B3A4.BA.AB.3B.3B$6.2AB.B.A3.B3A2B.2B3AB3.3A.4A.B2AB$6.B.AB.B
2A2.2B2A2B.2B2A2B.BA3BA4.AB2A2B$7.A.A.BABA.4BAB.BA5B2A2B.A.2A.ABABAB$
8.A.BA3B2.BA2BA.A2BA2B.BABABA.2A.A.2B2AB4.B5.B$10.BA3BABA3BA.A3BA2.2B
2ABA4.A3BAB4.3B3.3B$9.2BA3BA2BA2BABA2BAB3.B2AB.4A.3A4.2B3A3.3A2B$10.B
A3B3.3A3B3AB3.3B.3B.BA.AB3.2BA2B.A.A.2BA2B$10.BA2BA4.3B2.3B5.B.B3A2B
2A5.2BA3BA.A3BA2B$12.A6.BA3.4B5.2B2A3BAB5.BAB4A.4ABAB$10.A.A.A4.BAB3.
4B5.3B3A7.B2A4B.4B2AB$9.A.A.2A4.3B4.4B6.2BAB7.7B.7B$9.A.A6.A3BA4.3BA
7.B8.7B.7B$10.2A4.3A.A.3A3.3BA15.5B2A.2A5B$15.A3.2AB3.A3.3AB14.4BA.A.
A.A4B$15.A.2A2.2ABA.A3.4B14.4BA3.A4B$10.B5.A2.2A2B2A.A4.4B15.3B3.3B$
9.4B4.2A2.2ABA.2A4.4B15.B5.B$9.2B3AB4.A2.A.A.A2.A3.3BA13.B$7.3B6A3.4A
.2A2.2A3.4BA4BA2BA8BA2BA13B$7.3BAB3A.A6.A8.3B3A8BA11BA12B$5.2B.BA.2BA
.2AB3.A.A7.2A9BA3BA7BA3BA12B$5.3B.4A.4A3.2A7.2B2A.8B4A8B4A12B$3.4B2A
4.AB3AB10.2BA39B$2.3B2A.A.2A.A2B2AB9.4B.3B$3.B2A2BA.2A.A.2A3B7.4B.2B
2A$3.B3ABA4.2A4B7.4B3.2A2B$4.4A.4A.3B8.2A2B5.BA2B$2A2.B2A.A2B.AB.2B7.
2B2A7.4B14.2A$2A3.A.3ABA3B8.2BAB9.4B12.A.A$6.6A3B7.4B11.4B11.A$4A3.B
3A2B8.4B13.2B2A4.2A2.2A.4A$A2.AB4.4B7.4B15.2A2B3.A2.A.A.B2.A$.4B6.B7.
2A2B3.2A12.BA2B4.2A.AB2A2.2A$2.3B.2B.4B5.2B2A5.A13.4B4.A.A3B2A2.A$2.
8BA5B.2BAB4.A16.4B3.A.AB2A2.2A.A$.9B2A8B3.4A16.4B3.A3.BAB3.A$2B3A6B2A
6B3.A4.A16.2B2A3.3A.A.3A4.2A$3BABA4B2A6B3.A.2AB2A9.B7.2A2B4.2AB2A6.A.
A$.3B2A10B5.A.BAB2.2A6.4B6.BA2B4.3B4.2A.A.A$14.2B4.2A.A2B2A2.A5.2BA3B
5.4B3.3B4.A.A.A$.3B2A11B.A2B.BABA.A.2A3.3B2A4B5.4B3.2B6.A$3BABA4B2A6B
AB2AB.A2.A6.2B2A4B.B5.3B2.3B4.B2A2B$2B3A6B2A5BA2B.A.A.2A4.2B.AB.3B.3B
3.10B3.3A2B$.9B2A4B4.2A.A.A6.2BA.4A.4B3.13B3A3B$2.8BA4B6.A.A.A4.3BABA
4.A5B2.2BA2B.2BA4B3A2B$2.3B.2B.3B.2B6.A2.A4.3B2A.A.2A.A2B2AB.2B3AB.B
3AB2.3A2B.A$.4B8.2B7.2A6.B2A2BA.2A.A.2A4BA2B2A.2A2BAB.B2AB.A.A$A2.AB
6.6B.2A10.5BA4.ABA3B.B3A2B.2B3AB2.3B.AB.A$4A3.2A.7B2.A11.4B.4A.A2B3.
6B.6B3.A.B.3B$6.A.2B9A12.3B.3B.BA.2B4.5B.5B3.B6ABA$2A4.A.A.7A2.3A10.B
.4B2A2B5.6B.6B2.A7.A$2A3.2A.2A2.4AB.A2.A11.4B2A3B5.6B.6B3.3A.3A$8.A.B
A2.B4.2A13.3BA2B8.3B2A.2A3B6.A.A$5.2A.ABA.A23.4B5.4B2ABA.AB2A4B$6.A.
2B.A26.B5.2A3BA3B.3BA3B2A$6.A.3A33.A.3B3AB.B3A3B.A$7.2A32.2A.A.B2.4B.
4B2.B.A.2A$41.2A.2A4.2B3.2B4.2A.2A!

Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Posted: January 15th, 2019, 12:29 pm
by Sokwe
calcyman wrote:
Sokwe wrote:Unfortunately, the p6 rotors cannot be brought closer together according to JLS.
Did you only check stator welds (p1), or did you also do a search for an arbitrary p6 which produces both sparks?
I checked that those particular p6 rotors in those particular positions could not be brought closer together in the most naive way that would shrink the gun. I did not search for any new p6 rotors.

Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Posted: February 28th, 2019, 5:07 am
by Sokwe
Here are stator reductions to the p20 and p40 guns that don't change the bounding box.

p20:

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x = 70, y = 38, rule = LifeHistory
35.BA$35.2AB.2A$34.B.2A2.A$34.BA.3A$34.BA2B2.3A$28.2A4.BA2.A.A2.A$27.
A2.A3.B4A.AB2A2.A6.2A$26.A2.A.2B6.3A2.3A5.A.3A11.2A$11.2A10.A2.3A.2AB
3.B2A.2B2A8.A4.A9.A.A$11.A11.3A3.3AB3.BA.BA3.A3.A2.2A3.A.B.A.B2A2.A$
2A11.A12.2A.B2A4.BA.A.3A3.A.A5.A.6A3B2A$A.A9.2A2.A2.A3.4A.B8.A3BA5.A.
7A3.B3A3B$2.A2.BAB.B.A2.6A3.A2.BA7.2A.B.A7.A3.B3.3A2BA.BA.2A$2.2AB2A
5B2A10.2AB.A6.2A.AB10.AB.2AB.2AB.B5A.A$4.BAB4A3.8A3.B2A.BA4.BA.BAB8.
2A.2B.A2B3.A7.A$2.2A.2B.6A3.A3.A4.3A.AB2.2B.3A7.2BA.3B2AB5.7A$.A.2ABA
2B.3B.ABA.2A7.3B2A2.B3A9.3BA3BABAB5.A2.A$A7.A3.A2B.2A.2A7.B.2B3.AB4.
3B.B2A2B2A.A2BABA2.A$.7A5.3BA2B.BAB7.2A6.BA5BA4BA.2A3.BA2.2A$3.A2.A5.
ABA4B4A8.2B3.BA2BA4BA2B.A.A2.4A$8.A2.A2BABA.2AB2A2B.3B.3A2.3AB3A3BA3B
A3BA$7.2A2.AB3.2A.2ABA12B.ABABA4BA2B.A.A2.4A$12.4A2.A.B.A3B3A5B6A5BA
4BA.2A3.BA2.2A$16.2A2BABA4B2A5BA3BAB.3B.B2A2B2A.A2BABA2.A$12.4A2.A.B.
A3B3A5BA3B9.3BA3BABAB5.A2.A$7.2A2.AB3.2A.2ABA10B2.3BA8.2BA.3B2AB5.7A$
8.A2.A2BABA.2AB2A2B.3B.B2A3.3BA9.2A.2B.A2B3.A7.A$3.A2.A5.ABA4B4A9.B4.
3AB9.AB.2AB.2AB.B5A.A$.7A5.3BA2B.BAB7.2B6.4B6.A3.B3.3A2BA.BA.2A$A7.A
3.A2B.2A.2A7.BA2BAB5.4B4.A.7A3.B3A3B$.A.2ABA2B.3B.ABA.2A7.A2B2A2BA5.
3BA3.A.A5.A.6A3B2A$2.2A.2B.6A3.A3.A5.A2B2A2BA6.3BA3.A2.2A3.A.B.A.B2A
2.A$4.BAB4A3.7A.A6.4A9.3AB6.A4.A9.A.A$2.2AB2A5BA.A5.A.A4.A.A2.A.A8.4B
5.A.3A11.2A$2.A2.BAB.B.A.A3.2A2.A5.2A4.2A9.4B5.2A$A.A9.A4.A27.3BA$2A
11.3A.A28.3BA$15.2A30.3AB!
p40:

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x = 70, y = 40, rule = LifeHistory
35.BA$35.2AB.2A$34.B.2A2.A$34.BA.3A$34.BA2B2.3A$28.2A4.BA2.A.A2.A$27.
A2.A3.B4A.AB2A2.A6.2A$26.A2.A.2B6.3A2.3A5.A.3A11.2A$11.2A10.A2.3A.2AB
3.B2A.2B2A8.A4.A9.A.A$11.A11.3A3.3AB3.BA.BA3.A3.A2.2A3.A.A.B.BAB2.A$
2A11.A12.2A.B2A4.BA.A.3A3.A.A5.A.A5B2AB2A$A.A9.2A2.A2.A3.4A.B8.A3BA5.
A.7A3.4ABAB$2.A2.B2A.A.B2.6A3.A2.BA7.2A.B.A7.A3.A3.6A.2B.2A$2.2A7B3A
10.2AB.A6.2A.AB10.2A.ABA.3B.2BAB2A.A$4.ABA4B3.8A3.B2A.BA4.BA.BAB8.2A.
2A.2BA3.A7.A$2.2A.AB.B3ABA3.B3.A4.3A.AB2.2B.3A7.BAB.2BA3B5.7A$.A.AB4A
.BAB.2AB.BA7.3B2A2.B3A9.4A4BABA5.A2.A$A7.A3.B2A.AB.2A7.B.2B3.AB4.B2A.
2B2AB2A.ABA2BA2.A$.7A5.ABA3B.A2B7.2B6.3B3A3BAB2A.2A3.BA2.2A$3.A2.A5.
2AB2AB3A2B8.2B3.3B2ABA4BA.B.A2.4A$8.A2.3B3A.B2A2BAB.3B.3B2.4B2A6BABA
2B2A$7.2A2.AB3.AB.BA3B2A3BA5B.3B2ABA4BA.B.A2.4A$12.4A2.A.A.B2A5B2A3BA
5B3A3BAB2A.2A3.BA2.2A$16.2A2B2AB3A3B3A4BA3B.B2A.2B2AB2A.ABA2BA2.A$12.
4A2.A.A.B2A5B2A2B3AB9.4A4BABA5.A2.A$7.2A2.AB3.AB.BA3B2A3BA3B2.4B8.BAB
.2BA3B5.7A$8.A2.3B3A.B2A2BAB.3B.3B3.4B9.2A.2A.2BA3.A7.A$3.A2.A5.2AB2A
B3A2B7.B6.3BA9.2A.ABA.3B.2BAB2A.A$.7A5.ABA3B.A2B7.A7.3BA6.A3.A3.6A.2B
.2A$A7.A3.B2A.AB.2A8.2BA7.3AB4.A.7A3.4ABAB$.A.AB4A.BAB.2AB.BA7.A.A2B
8.4B3.A.A5.A.A5B2AB2A$2.2A.AB.B3ABA3.B3.A5.2ABA10.4B3.A2.2A3.A.A.B.BA
B2.A$4.ABA4B3.8A3.2A3.AB9.5B6.A4.A9.A.A$2.2A7B3A10.A2.2ABAB10.5B5.A.
3A11.2A$2.A2.B2A.A.B2.6A4.2A.A.B9.3B2.4B5.2A$A.A9.2A2.A2.A7.A6.B2.BA
3B3.4B$2A11.A13.2A4.3AB2A2B2A3.4B$11.A21.4A4B2A4.3BA$11.2A21.3B2A2.B
6.3BA$34.3B12.3AB!

Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Posted: March 4th, 2019, 5:55 am
by Sokwe
Here's a smaller p48 gun:

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x = 45, y = 39, rule = LifeHistory
5.2A3.ABAB.A17.2BA$4.A2B2.BAB2A3BA13.A4B4.2A$2.A2.2BA.A.B3A3B.AB7.BA.
3BA.A2.A.A$2.4A.A.2A2.2B2AB2AB7.B2AB2AB2A2B2A$7.A.A4.B2.4BA5.A4B2.B.B
.5B$2.5A2.A7.BA2BA2.A2.A2BAB2.5B2.2A$2.A3.A.A.2A6.13B4.3A3.A$3.A2.A2.
A2.A5.2A.2A3B2A.2A4.BAB4.3A$4.A.2A.A.A.A7.B5AB8.A7.A$3.2A.A2.A.A.BA8.
3B$3.A2.AB2A.BA3B6.4B4.2A$4.3A.A.AB.B3A5.3B5.A3.8B$3.3B2A.A2B.B.2AB3.
5B.BA.A2.5B2A3B$2.A.A2BA.A2.BAB.A4.ABABA.B2A3.4BA2BA2B$2.2A.B2A.A.2A
2B3AB.2B3A4B3.8B2A2B$8.2A.A3.2A6BA4B3.3BA5B3A2B$2.5A4.A7.9B4.BA.A3BAB
.AB$.A4.A.3A10.4B9.2A3B3A$.A.2A.A.A6.2A4.3BA$2A.A2.A5.B4AB2.B.3BA8.2A
3B3A$.A.A.A.A3.2B2A.BA.4B3AB5.BA.A3BAB.AB$.A.A.2A.A2.A3.2B2.9B3.3BA5B
3A2B$2A.2A2.2A3B4A2.6B.4B3.8B2A2B$3.A.B3AB.AB.2A2.2BA3B2.4B3.4BA2BA2B
$3.A.A.2A5BAB2.BABAB4.3BA2.5B2A3B$2.2A.A2B2ABA2BAB2.A3BA5.3BA.9B$4.A
2.B2AB.A2BA3.ABA7.3A2B$4.A.A.B5.A3.2BAB8.4B$3.2A.2A10.3A4.2A4.4B$4.A
5.2A4.7A.B2A5.4B$4.A.2A2.A2.AB.2ABAB2A.B8.4B$5.A.A3.2A.4A3B3AB4A5.4B$
8.3A2.A3B2.B2.2BA3.A6.4B$11.2A.2A7.A.2A9.4B$10.A2.B2AB5.A.A.2A9.4B$
10.3AB2.A3.3A.A13.4B$14.2A3.A4.A14.3BA$10.4A5.2A3.2A14.3BA$10.A2.A27.
3AB!
I simply found a p4 that allowed the p16 filter to be brought closer in Noam Elkies' gun. I tried to remove another row on the bottom, but was unsuccessful. I doubt it can be done without changing multiple sparkers.

Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Posted: March 5th, 2019, 2:36 am
by Kazyan
Some rearranging of the right side of the p15 gun saves columns:

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x = 83, y = 43, rule = LifeHistory
13.3BA2B43.4BAB3.2B$5.2B4.5BABA2B4.B29.B4.5B2A6B.BA$4.4B.10B2A2B.B2A
27.2AB.6B2A4B2A2BABA2B$4.15B2A4B2A27.2A7B3A4B2A2BABA$3.16B2A5B29.9B2A
4B2A3BA2B$3.13BABA7B13.2BA3B4.B5.10B2A11B$2.7B4.3BA2B4.B13.2BABA10B5.
B4.4BAB4.7B$2.7B16.4B2A.B2.2B2A13B20.2A3B2A$2.3BA3B9.B4.5BA3BA4B2A12B
2A19.2A3B2A$2.2B3A2B8.2AB.6BA5BA2B.2A10B.B2A19.7B$2.B5AB8.2A8BA3BAB2A
4BABA5B4.B20.2B3A2B$2.2A3B2A9.9BA5BA7BA3B27.2B3A2B$3.5A10.10BA3BA7B
18.2AB12.2BA2B$2.BA3BA12.B4.4B2A3.7B15.2B2AB12.6B$3.BABAB2.2A26.2BAB
14.2B2AB12.5B$3.2BA3B2.A27.2B2A12.3BA.2B10.6B$2.7B2.A.AB3.B2A3B16.2A
2B12.BABA2B10.7B$2.2B.4B3.2AB.3B2A5B15.4B11.BABAB11.4B.2B$.2BA5B5.8B
2A4B2.B.2BA3B4.4B10.2BA2B11.BA6B$.2AB2A4B4.8B3A7BABA5B3.4B9.5B10.2A7B
$10BA4.7B2A2B.3B2A9B3.4B7.7B8.2B2A7B$A5BA.3BA4.3B2A9B2A10B3.4B6.2A3B
2A7.4B.7B$7B2.3AB5.B2A9B2A10B4.BABA5.ABABABA6.4B2.2B3A2B$2ABAB2A3.4B
9.9BABA5B.B2A3.B2AB4.B5AB5.4B3.BA3BAB.B$7B4.4B7.A6B3.2BA3B3.BA.A3.A3B
3.2B3A2B4.4B4.A5BA$7B5.4B5.BABA19.A4.4B2.3BA3B3.4B5.A5BA$.5B7.4B3.2B
2A20.2A4.4B2.5B3.ABAB7.2BA2B$.5B8.4B.4B28.4B.5B2.B2AB8.A3BA$.4B10.3BA
.3B29.4B.4B.3BA10.3A$.4B11.ABA12B2A22BA4B.6B.3B2AB3.AB$4B13.2A2B.8B4A
13B2A7B2A3.8BA2BA3B2A2B.B$.4B13.12B2AB2A10B2AB2A5B2A2B5.4BA7B2A3B2A$.
2B2AB13.13B2A11B4A11B4.4BA6BA2BA2B2A$3.2A15.B2A23B2A6B3.3BA4.3BA7B2A
2.2B$8.BABA2B3.5B2A24.2B.B6.ABAB4.3BA2BA3B$.B4.3BA2BA8BAB23.6B7.2A2B
5.3B2AB$2AB.8B2A11B2AB16.10B6.4B$2A8BA3B2A8BABA3B4.B7.BA2BAB2ABA2BAB
5.BABA$.4B2A5B2A5B.3BA6B2A.B2A5.B2A2BA4BA2B2AB5.B2AB$.3BA4BA2BA10BA2B
A2BA2BAB2A6.BA2BAB2ABA2BAB7.A3B$3.B4.BABA2B.B2.5BA6B2A3B9.10B10.3BA$
20.4BABA8B11.6B13.3BA$22.3B2AB4.B15.2B16.3AB!

Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Posted: March 5th, 2019, 4:03 am
by Sokwe
Kazyan wrote:Some rearranging of the right side of the p15 gun saves columns
Fixed LifeHistory:

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x = 83, y = 43, rule = LifeHistory
13.3BA2B43.4BAB$5.2B4.5BABA2B4.B29.B4.5B2A3B4.BA$4.4B.10B2A2B.B2A27.
2AB.6B2A4B2A.BABA$4.15B2A4B2A27.2A7B3A4B2A2BABA$3.16B2A5B29.9B2A4B2A
3BA2B$3.13BABA7B13.2BA3B4.B5.10B2A11B$2.7B4.3BA2B4.B13.2BABA10B5.B4.
4BAB4.7B$2.7B16.4B2A.B2.2B2A13B20.2A3B2A$2.3BA3B9.B4.5BA3BA4B2A12B2A
19.2A3B2A$2.2B3A2B8.2AB.6BA5BA2B.2A10B.B2A19.7B$2.B5AB8.2A8BA3BAB2A4B
ABA5B4.B20.2B3A2B$2.2A3B2A9.9BA5BA7BA3B27.2B3A2B$3.5A10.10BA3BA7B18.
2A13.2BA2B$2.BA3BA12.B4.4B2A3.7B15.2B2AB12.6B$3.BABAB2.2A26.2BAB14.2B
2A13.5B$3.2BA3B2.A27.2B2A12.3BA13.6B$2.7B2.A.AB3.B2A3B16.2A2B12.BABA
12.7B$2.2B.4B3.2AB.3B2A5B15.4B11.BABA12.4B.2B$.2BA5B5.8B2A4B2.B.2BA3B
4.4B10.2BA2B11.BA6B$.2AB2A4B4.8B3A7BABA5B3.4B9.5B10.2A7B$10BA4.7B2A2B
.3B2A9B3.4B7.7B8.2B2A7B$A5BA.3BA4.3B2A9B2A10B3.4B6.2A3B2A7.4B.7B$7B2.
3AB5.B2A9B2A10B4.BABA5.ABABABA6.4B2.2B3A2B$2ABAB2A3.4B9.9BABA5B.B2A3.
B2AB4.B5AB5.4B3.BA3BAB$7B4.4B7.A6B3.2BA3B3.BA.A3.A3B3.2B3A2B4.4B4.A5B
A$7B5.4B5.BABA19.A4.4B2.3BA3B3.4B5.A5BA$.5B7.4B3.2B2A20.2A4.4B2.5B3.A
BAB7.2BA2B$.5B8.4B.4B28.4B.5B2.B2AB8.A3BA$.4B10.3BA.3B29.4B.4B.3BA10.
3A$.4B11.ABA12B2A22BA4B.6B.3B2AB3.AB$4B13.2A2B.8B4A13B2A7B2A3.8BA2BA
3B2A2B.B$.4B13.12B2AB2A10B2AB2A5B2A2B5.4BA7B2A3B2A$.2B2AB13.13B2A11B
4A11B4.4BA6BA2BA2B2A$3.2A15.B2A23B2A6B3.3BA4.3BA7B2A2.2B$8.BABA2B3.5B
2A24.2B.B6.ABAB4.3BA2BA3B$.B4.3BA2BA8BAB23.6B7.2A2B5.3B2AB$2AB.8B2A
11B2AB16.10B6.4B$2A8BA3B2A8BABA3B4.B7.BA2BAB2ABA2BAB5.BABA$.4B2A5B2A
5B.3BA6B2A.B2A5.B2A2BA4BA2B2AB5.B2AB$.3BA4BA2BA10BA2BA2BA2BAB2A6.BA2B
AB2ABA2BAB7.A3B$3.B4.BABA2B.B2.5BA6B2A3B9.10B10.3BA$20.4BABA8B11.6B
13.3BA$22.3B2AB4.B15.2B16.3AB!

Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Posted: March 10th, 2019, 7:49 am
by Sokwe
Smaller p270:

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x = 58, y = 27, rule = LifeHistory
22.4B2A25.2A$15.B4.5BA5B21.B2A2B$14.2AB.6BA7B2.B.B2A3B11.4B$14.2A8BA
7BA4B2A5B4.B5.4B$15.9BA5B.2B2A5B2A4B.B2A3.3BA$15.10BA4B2A2BA5B3A5B2A
3.2BAB$17.B4.4B2AB5A6B2A7B3.3BAB$27.5BA4B2A10B3.5B$26.9B.B2A3B4.B4.7B
$11.A13.9B17.2A3B2A$11.3A10.11B16.3BA3B$14.A8.12B16.A5BA$13.2A7.13B
16.B2AB2AB$13.5B3.4B.10B15.2BABA2B$4.2A9.3B2.4B2.11B15.2BA2B$3.A.A8.
9B5.9B15.2BA2B$3.A8.B.8B7.10B13.4B$2A.AB.B3.BA9B9.B4.4B13.4B$.A.A.2AB
.3A9B3.2A10.4B2AB3.4BA4B$.A.A.2A2B2A10B4.A11.3BA2BA6BABA3B$2A.A2.5BA
9B4.A.AB3.3B2A2BA3BA7BABA3B$A2.4A3BA8B.B2A3.2AB.4B3A2B2A2BA7BA2BA2B$.
2A2.BAB.BA8B.BA.A4.3BAB2A5B.10BABA2B$3.2A6.7B5.A4.3BA2BA8B3A4BABAB$3.
A7.2B.3BA5.2A4.2BAB2A7B2.B.4BAB$5.A9.3BA11.4B3A3B$4.2A10.3AB12.3B2AB!

Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Posted: March 22nd, 2019, 8:46 am
by googoIpIex
Im searching for various welds (non-frozen) to shrink the p48 LWSS gun in JLS

Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Posted: March 22nd, 2019, 4:29 pm
by googoIpIex
Can someone update the list of optimizable guns?

Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Posted: March 22nd, 2019, 9:10 pm
by Kazyan
Bullet's p10 sparker can form a smaller stabilization for the p50 gun, replacing the previous bulky p30 blinker-pushing mechanism. This leads to new smaller p50, p100, and p200 guns:

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#50
x = 52, y = 29, rule = LifeHistory
27.A3.2A3.2A$25.3A4.A4.A$24.A6.A3.A$7.A16.2A5.2A2.2A7.A$7.3A11.5B2.3B
2.A.A2.A3.3A$10.A9.4B3.6BA3.2A2.A$2.2A3.2A.A9.5B2.6B.A6.A.2A3.2A$2.A
4.A.A9.14B2A7.A.A4.A$3.3A.A4.2A4.14B.B4.2A4.A.3A$5.A.A4.2AB4.13B5.B2A
4.A.A$7.2A4.2B.B2A14B2AB.2B4.2A$2.A2.A2.BAB.4B3A14B3A4B.BAB2.A2.A$2.
5ABA5B3A6BA4BA6B3A5BAB5A$7.2BA4B3A6B6A6B3A4BA2B$4.2AB3A4B3A6BA4BA6B3A
4B3AB2A$4.A2.B2AB.4B3A14B3A4B.B2AB2.A$5.3AB4.2B.B2A14B2AB.2B4.B3A$12.
2AB5.13B4.B2A$3.3AB5.2A4.B.14B4.2A5.B3A$2.A2.B2AB8.2A14B10.B2AB2.A$2.
2AB3AB8.A.6B2.5B11.B3AB2A$5.2BA2B3.2A3.A6B.7B9.2BA2B$5ABA2B4.A2.A.A2.
3B2.6B11.2BAB5A$A2.A2.BAB6.2A2.2A5.7B10.BAB2.A2.A$5.2A9.A3.A6.7B11.2A
$3.A.A8.A4.A6.B.7B11.A.A$.3A.A8.2A3.2A4.A9BA10.A.3A$A4.A.2A15.A.AB.2B
2.3BA6.2A.A4.A$2A3.2A.A16.AB7.3AB5.A.2A3.2A!

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#100
x = 48, y = 52, rule = LifeHistory
41.2A3.2A$41.A3.A.A$25.2A3.2A6.2A.A3.A$25.A.A3.A5.A.A.2A.2A$27.A3.A.
2A2.A.A.A$27.2A.2A.A.A.2AB2A.5A$31.A.A.A.4BABA3.A$22.2A.5A.2AB2A2.4BA
3.A$23.A.A3.ABA4B2.5B3.2A$23.A2.A3.A4B5.B$24.2A4.5B$31.3B$27.2A.5B.2A
$23.2A2.2A7B2A$19.2A3.A3.9B$19.A2.A7.5B$21.3A5.3BA3B$25.2A2.2B3A2B$
23.2A.AB.BABABAB.B$19.2A.A.3B2.BABABA4B$19.A.2A.4B2AB3AB2A4B$23.4BAB
2ABAB2ABA4B$23.3B2ABA5BAB2A3B$23.4B2ABA3BAB2A4B$12.2A4.A5.4B3A3B3A3B.
B2A$12.A4.A.A6.13B2.BA.A$7.2A5.A2.BA2B.3B.13B5.A$7.A5.2A3.2B.7B3A3B3A
4B3.2A$4.2A.A.3B7.8B2ABA3BAB2A4B$4.A2.A.2A2B2A3.8B2ABA5BAB2A3B$6.2A.A
.2B2AB2.9BAB2ABAB2ABA4B$9.A.4B4.9B2AB3AB2A4B.2A.A$9.2A.4B3.4B.B.4BABA
BAB2.3B.A.2A$12.10B5.B.BABABAB.BA.2A$3.2A7.9B8.2B3A2B2.2A$3.A8.8B9.3B
A3B5.3A$2A.A.B3.10B11.5B7.A2.A$A2.3AB.2B2A7B9.9B3.A3.2A$.2A2.BA3B2A7B
5.2A.2A7B2A2.2A$3.4A12B4.A.A.2A.5B.2A$3.A.2B3.7B.B2A2.A.A5.3B$4.3AB2.
7B.BA.A.A.A4.5B$7.A4.4B5.A.A.2A3.A4B5.B$2.5A5.4B5.A.A5.ABA4B2.5B3.2A$
2.A10.4B5.A.6A.2AB2A2.4BA3.A$4.A9.4B5.A7.A.A.A.4BABA3.A$3.2A10.4B5.2A
.2A.2A.A.A.2AB2A.5A$16.4B5.A.A3.A.2A2.A.A.A$17.4B4.A.A3.A5.A.A.2A.2A$
18.3BA4.A3.2A6.2A.A3.A$19.3BA18.A3.A.A$20.3AB17.2A3.2A!

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#200
x = 50, y = 52, rule = LifeHistory
43.2A3.2A$43.A3.A.A$27.2A3.2A6.2A.A3.A$27.A.A3.A5.A.A.2A.2A$29.A3.A.
2A2.A.A.A$29.2A.2A.A.A.2AB2A.5A$33.A.A.A.4BABA3.A$24.2A.5A.2AB2A2.4BA
3.A$25.A.A3.ABA4B2.5B3.2A$25.A2.A3.A4B5.B$26.2A4.5B$33.3B$29.2A.5B.2A
$25.2A2.2A7B2A$21.2A3.A3.9B$21.A2.A7.5B$23.3A5.3BA3B$27.2A2.2B3A2B$
25.2A.AB.BABABAB.B$21.2A.A.3B2.BABABA4B$21.A.2A.4B2AB3AB2A4B$25.4BAB
2ABAB2ABA4B$25.3B2ABA5BAB2A3B$25.4B2ABA3BAB2A4B$14.2A4.A5.4B3A3B3A3B.
B2A$14.A4.A.A6.13B2.BA.A$9.2A5.A2.BA2B.3B.13B5.A$9.A5.2A3.2B.7B3A3B3A
4B3.2A$6.2A.A.3B7.8B2ABA3BAB2A4B$6.A2.A.2A2B2A3.8B2ABA5BAB2A3B$8.2A.A
.2B2AB2.9BAB2ABAB2ABA4B$11.A.4B4.9B2AB3AB2A4B.2A.A$11.2A.4B3.4B.B.4BA
BABAB2.3B.A.2A$4.2A8.10B5.B.BABABAB.BA.2A$3.A.A8.9B8.2B3A2B2.2A$3.A8.
B.8B9.3BA3B5.3A$2A.AB.B3.11B11.5B7.A2.A$.A.A.2AB.12B9.9B3.A3.2A$.A.A.
2A14B5.2A.2A7B2A2.2A$2A.A2.5B2A8B4.A.A.2A.5B.2A$A2.4A3BA2BA5B.B2A2.A.
A5.3B$.2A2.BAB.2B2A6B.BA.A.A.A4.5B$3.2A6.7B5.A.A.2A3.A4B5.B$3.A7.2B.
4B5.A.A5.ABA4B2.5B3.2A$5.A9.4B5.A.6A.2AB2A2.4BA3.A$4.2A10.4B5.A7.A.A.
A.4BABA3.A$17.4B5.2A.2A.2A.A.A.2AB2A.5A$18.4B5.A.A3.A.2A2.A.A.A$19.4B
4.A.A3.A5.A.A.2A.2A$20.3BA4.A3.2A6.2A.A3.A$21.3BA18.A3.A.A$22.3AB17.
2A3.2A!
This can definitely be used to make the p25 gun smaller, too, which would involve a bunch of moving parts that I don't feel like welding close together right now. Perhaps googolplex can give it a try.

Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Posted: March 22nd, 2019, 9:50 pm
by BlinkerSpawn
Kazyan wrote:Bullet's p10 sparker can form a smaller stabilization for the p50 gun, replacing the previous bulky p30 blinker-pushing mechanism. This leads to new smaller p50, p100, and p200 guns:
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This can definitely be used to make the p25 gun smaller, too, which would involve a bunch of moving parts that I don't feel like welding close together right now. Perhaps googolplex can give it a try.
I couldn't resist, 15587 -> 10164:

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x = 121, y = 84, rule = LifeHistory
28.2A3.A.A$28.A3.A.2A$12.2A3.2A6.2A.A3.A$12.A.A3.A5.A.A.2A.2A.2A$14.A
3.A.2A2.A.A.B5.A.A$14.2A.2A.A.A.2A2BA.3A3.3A$18.B.A.A.4B3A2.3A3.A$9.
2A.5A.A2B2A2.5B3.A3.2A.A21.A3.2A3.2A$10.A.A3.3A4B2.5B5.2A.A.A19.3A4.A
4.A$10.A2.A3.5B5.B8.A3.2A17.A6.A3.A$11.2A4.5B14.A.A2.A2B15.2A5.2A2.2A
7.A$18.3B16.2AB2A2B12.5B2.3B2.A.A2.A3.3A$14.2A.5B.2A15.5B10.4B3.6BA3.
2A2.A$14.2A7B2A2.2A8.3A4B11.5B2.6B.A6.A.2A3.2A7.2A3.2A$15.9B3.A3.2A4.
A2.A3B10.14B2A7.A.A4.A7.A.A3.A$17.5B7.A2.A5.3AB5.2A4.14B.B4.2A4.A.3A
10.A3.A.2A6.2A3.2A$16.7B5.3A16.2AB4.13B5.B2A4.A.A12.2A.2A.A.A5.A3.A.A
$16.2B3A2B2.2A13.3AB4.2B.20B.2B4.2A18.A.A.A2.2A.A3.A$14.B.BA3BAB.BA.
2A7.2A.A2.A3B.10B2A4B2A10B.2BA2.A2.A7.5A.2AB2A.A.A.2A.2A$13.4BA3BAB2.
3B.A.2A2.A.A.3A15B2A4B2A13B2AB4A7.A3.ABA4B.A.A.A$11.4B2AB3AB2A4B.2A.A
2.A.A4.14BA8BA14B13.A3.A4B2.2AB2A.5A.2A$10.4BABA5BABA4B7.A2.2AB2A13B
2A4B2A15B3A9.2A3.5B2.4BABA3.A.A$10.4BA9BA4B8.2A.A2.A2B.10B2A4B2A10B.
3BA2.A16.B5.4BA3.A2.A$10.4B2ABA3BAB2A4B9.A3.2A4.2B.20B.2B4.B3A23.5B4.
2A$8.2AB.4B2A3B2A5B5.A4.A.A.A4.2AB5.13B4.B2A31.3B$7.A.AB2.13B6.A.A4.
2A.A4.2A4.B.14B4.2A5.B3A2.2A14.2A.2AB2A.2A$7.A5.13B.3B.2BAB7.A.A7.2A
14B10.3BA2.A2.A14.2AB2AB2AB2A$6.2A3.5B2A3B2A8B.2B8.2A.A6.A.6B2.5B11.
4B3A.A16.B3AB3AB$10.4B2ABA3BAB2A8B12.A2.2A3.A6B.7B9.5B4.2A17.B3AB$10.
4BA9BA9B8.3A3.A2.A.A2.3B2.6B11.2B2AB2A2.A16.3BA3B$10.4BABA5BABA9B8.A
7.2A2.2A5.7B10.2BA2.A.2A5.2A10.7B$6.A.2A.4B2AB3AB2A9B18.A3.A6.7B11.2A
3.A7.A8.B.7B.B$6.2A.A.3B2.BA3BA4B.B.4B16.A4.A6.B.7B11.A.A.A7.A.AB2.B.
13B$10.2A.AB.BA3BAB.B5.4B15.2A3.2A4.A10B10.A.2A9.2AB.18B$12.2A2.2B3A
2B8.4B24.A.AB.2B2.4B8.2A14.21B$8.3A5.7B9.4B24.AB7.BABA6.A2.3A5.2A4.
10B3A8B$6.A2.A7.5B11.4B33.B2AB5.2A4.A3.B2AB3.10BABA8B$6.2A3.A3.9B10.
4B33.A3B9.2A3.3B5.9B3A6B.B2A$10.2A2.2A7B2A10.BABA33.4B8.5B.B.B5.8B3A
5B2.BA.A$14.2A.5B.2A11.B2AB33.4B9.7B5.8B3A5B5.A$18.3B16.A3B33.4B7.8BA
12B3A7B3.2A$11.2A4.5B16.4B33.4B6.7B2A3BA8BABA8B$10.A2.A3.5B5.B11.4B
33.4B5.6BA4BABA7B3A8B$10.A.A3.3A4B2.5B3.2A5.4B33.4B3.8B3ABA20B$9.2A.
5A.A2B2A2.5B3.A7.4B3.4BA2BA37BABA2BA17B.2A.A$18.B.A.A.4B3A3.A7.4B.4BA
24B4A14B2AB2A17B.A.2A$14.2A.2A.A.A.2A2BA.5A8.8BA3BA20BA3BA14BABA3B.B.
7B.BA.2A$14.A3.A.2A2.A.A.B13.2A7B4A21BA19BA4B3.7B2.2A$12.A.A3.A5.A.A.
2A.2A8.ABA33BA2BA4B.15B3.3BA3B5.3A$12.2A3.2A6.2A.A3.A7.3BA2.4B39.4B2.
4B6.B3AB7.A2.A$28.A3.A.A4.4B4.2BAB36.5B4.2B5.B3AB3AB3.A3.2A$28.2A3.2A
3.4B6.2B2A35.2A13.2AB2AB2AB2A2.2A$37.4B8.2A2B35.A13.2A.2AB2A.2A$36.4B
10.4B31.3A18.3B$35.4B12.4B30.A19.5B4.2A$2A3.2A.A16.AB7.4B5.A.2A5.4B
43.B5.4BA3.A2.A$A4.A.2A15.A.AB.2B2.4B6.2A.A6.3BA35.2A3.5B2.4BABA3.A.A
$.3A.A8.2A3.2A4.A3BA6B10.A.2A4.3BA35.A3.A4B2.2AB2A.5A.2A$3.A.A8.A4.A
6.B.3A4B11.A.A.A4.3AB33.A3.ABA4B.A.A.A$5.2A9.A3.A6.A2B2A2B11.2A3.A5.
4B32.5A.2AB2A.A.A.2A.2A$A2.A2.BAB6.2A2.2A5.A3BA2B10.BAB2.A.2A5.4B37.A
.A.A2.2A.A3.A$5ABA2B4.A2.A.A2.3B2.2B2A2B11.2BAB3A2.A5.4B32.2A.2A.A.A
5.A3.A.A$5.2BA2B3.2A3.A6B.B2A4B9.2BA2B4.2A6.4B31.A3.A.2A6.2A3.2A$2.2A
B3AB8.A.6B2.5B11.B3AB2A.A8.BABA28.A.A3.A$2.A2.B2AB8.2A14B10.B2AB2.A2.
A8.B2AB27.2A3.2A$3.3AB5.2A4.B.14B4.2A5.B3A2.2A9.A3B$12.2AB5.13B4.B2A
23.4B$5.3AB4.2B.4BA10BA4B.2B4.B3A17.4B$4.A2.B2AB.3BA3BABA8BABA3BA3B.B
2AB2.A17.4B$4.2AB3A4BA4BA2BA6BA2BA4BA4B3AB2A18.3BA$7.2BA3BA2BA5BA6BA
5BA2BA3BA2B22.ABAB$2.5ABA5BA4BA2BA6BA2BA4BA5BAB5A18.2A2B$2.A2.A2.BAB.
3BA3BABA8BABA3BA3B.BAB2.A2.A19.4B$7.2A4.2B.4BA10BA4B.2B4.2A25.4B$5.A.
A4.2AB4.13B5.B2A4.A.A24.4B$3.3A.A4.2A4.14B.B4.2A4.A.3A23.2BAB$2.A4.A.
A9.14B2A7.A.A4.A23.2B2A$2.2A3.2A.A9.5B2.6B.A6.A.2A3.2A24.2A2B$10.A9.
4B3.6BA3.2A2.A33.4B$7.3A11.5B2.3B2.A.A2.A3.3A31.4B$7.A16.2A5.2A2.2A7.
A32.4B$24.A6.A3.A42.3BA$25.3A4.A4.A41.3BA$27.A3.2A3.2A42.3AB!
(I've been waiting for such a reduction to be possible for quite some time now.)

Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Posted: March 23rd, 2019, 12:26 am
by googoIpIex
Kazyan wrote:Bullet's p10 sparker can form a smaller stabilization for the p50 gun, replacing the previous bulky p30 blinker-pushing mechanism.
I was going to ask about the p5 quinti-snark, but it's too high repeat time

Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Posted: March 23rd, 2019, 12:36 am
by googoIpIex
I'm bad at trying to shrink guns:
(failed attempt at smaller p350)

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x = 54, y = 77, rule = LifeHistory
27.A3.2A3.2A$25.3A4.A4.A$24.A6.A3.A$7.A16.2A5.2A2.2A7.A$7.3A11.5B2.3B
2.A.A2.A3.3A$10.A9.B3A3.B3AB2A3.2A2.A$2.2A3.2A.A9.BA2BA2.A2BA2B.A6.A.
2A3.2A$2.A4.A.A9.A4BA2BA6BA7.A.A4.A$3.3A.A4.2A4.BA5B2A5B.A4.2A4.A.3A$
5.A.A4.2AB4.A5B2A4BA5.B2A4.A.A$7.2A4.2B.5BA2BA2BA2BA5B.2B4.2A$2.A2.A
2.BAB.28B.BAB2.A2.A$2.5AB2A6BAB2ABA8BAB2ABA6B2AB5A$7.2BA6BA4BA8BA4BA
6BA2B$4.2ABA2BA5BAB2ABA8BAB2ABA5BA2BAB2A$4.A2.2BAB.28B.BA2B2.A$5.4A4.
2B.5BA2BA2BA2BA5B.2B4.4A$12.2AB5.A4B2A5BA4.B2A$3.4A5.2A4.A.5B2A5BAB4.
2A5.4A$2.A2.2BAB8.A6BA2BA4BA10.BA2B2.A$2.2ABA2BA8.A.2BA2BA2.A2BAB11.A
2BAB2A$5.2BA2B3.2A3.2AB3AB.2B3A2B9.2BA2B$5AB2AB4.A2.A.A2.3B2.6B11.B2A
B5A$A2.A2.BAB6.2A2.2A5.7B10.BAB2.A2.A$5.2A9.A3.A6.7B11.2A$3.A.A8.A4.A
6.B.7B11.A.A$.3A.A8.2A3.2A4.A10B10.A.3A$A4.A.2A15.A.AB.2B2.4B6.2A.A4.
A$2A3.2A.A16.AB7.4B5.A.2A3.2A$35.4B$36.4B$28.2A7.4B$29.A8.BCBC$29.A.A
B3.B.2B2CB$30.2AB.6BC4B$32.14B.B$32.19B$32.B2A17B$33.2A17B$34.7B.11B$
35.6B.11B$35.5B.12B$33.5B4.3C7B$33.2AB5.3BC3B$34.A5.3BC2.B$31.3A5.4B$
31.A6.4B$37.4B$2.2A3.2A.A16.AB7.4B5.A.2A3.2A$2.A4.A.2A15.A.AB.2B2.4B
6.2A.A4.A$3.3A.A8.2A3.2A4.A10B10.A.3A$5.A.A8.A4.A6.B.7B11.A.A$7.2A9.A
3.A6.7B11.2A$2.A2.A2.A2B6.2A2.2A5.3BA3B10.2BA2.A2.A$2.4ABA3B4.A2.A.A
2.3B2.2B3AB11.3BAB4A$7.A4B3.2A3.A4B2A.B2A2BAB9.4BA$4.2A5B8.A.6B2.5B
11.5B2A$4.A2.A3B8.2A10B3AB10.3BA2.A$5.3AB5.2A4.B.9B3A2B4.2A5.B3A$14.
2AB5.3BA4BAB2AB4.B2A$7.3AB4.2B.9B2A9B.2B4.B3A$6.A2.A3B.28B.3BA2.A$6.
2A10B2A2B2A8B2A2B2A10B2A$9.A7B3AB3A8B3AB3A7BA$4.4ABA8B2A2B2A8B2A2B2A
8BAB4A$4.A2.A2.A2B.28B.2BA2.A2.A$9.2A4.2B.9B2A9B.2B4.2A$7.A.A4.2AB4.B
2ABA4BA3B5.B2A4.A.A$5.3A.A4.2A4.2B3A9B.B4.2A4.A.3A$4.A4.A.A9.B3A10B2A
7.A.A4.A$4.2A3.2A.A9.3B2A2.6B.A6.A.2A3.2A$12.A9.2A2B3.2A4BA3.2A2.A$9.
3A11.5B2.3B2.A.A2.A3.3A$9.A16.2A5.2A2.2A7.A$26.A6.A3.A$27.3A4.A4.A$
29.A3.2A3.2A!

Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Posted: March 23rd, 2019, 2:16 am
by Sokwe
Kazyan wrote:Bullet's p10 sparker can form a smaller stabilization for the p50 gun, replacing the previous bulky p30 blinker-pushing mechanism.
Nice! That p10 sparker has been quite useful. Here are further reductions to the p50, p100, and p200 guns.

p50 (by making the p10s shorter):

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x = 50, y = 29, rule = LifeHistory
26.A3.2A3.2A$24.3A4.A4.A$23.A6.A3.A$23.2A5.2A2.2A$20.5B2.3B2.A.A2.A$
19.4B3.6BA3.2A$.2A16.5B2.6B.A13.2A$.A4.2A10.14B2A8.2A4.A$2.3A2.A3.2A
4.14B.B4.2A3.A2.3A$4.A.A4.2AB4.13B5.B2A4.A.A$6.2A4.2B.B2A14B2AB.2B4.
2A$.A2.A2.BAB.4B3A14B3A4B.BAB2.A2.A$.5ABA5B3A6BA4BA6B3A5BAB5A$6.2BA4B
3A6B6A6B3A4BA2B$3.2AB3A4B3A6BA4BA6B3A4B3AB2A$3.A2.B2AB.4B3A14B3A4B.B
2AB2.A$4.3AB4.2B.B2A14B2AB.2B4.B3A$11.2AB5.13B4.B2A$2.3AB5.2A4.B.14B
4.2A5.B3A$.A2.B2AB8.2A14B10.B2AB2.A$.2AB3AB8.A.6B2.5B11.B3AB2A$4.2BA
2B3.2A3.A6B.7B9.2BA2B$.3ABA2B4.A2.A.A2.3B2.6B5.2A4.2BAB3A$2.A2.BAB6.
2A2.2A5.7B4.A5.BAB2.A$A3.2A9.A3.A6.7B4.3A4.2A3.A$2A3.A.A5.A4.A6.B.7B
5.A2.A.A3.2A$4.A2.3A3.2A3.2A4.A9BA5.3A2.A$4.2A4.A12.A.AB.2B2.3BA7.A.A
$9.2A13.AB7.3AB5.2A.2A!
p100 (by reorienting the semi-snark and making one of the p10s shorter):

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x = 55, y = 40, rule = LifeHistory
7.2A2.2A5.2A3.2A3.A$7.A2.A.A5.A4.A4.3A$4.2A.A.2A9.A3.A6.A$2.A2.A.A2.B
AB6.2A2.2A5.2A$2.2A3.5AB4.A2.A.A2.3B2.5B$6.A2.BA3B3.2A3.A6B3.4B$6.5A
2B8.A.6B2.5B16.2A$9.BA2B8.2A14B10.2A4.A$6.4AB5.2A4.B.14B4.2A3.A2.3A$
5.A10.2AB5.13B4.B2A4.A.A$6.6AB4.2B.20B.2B4.2A$11.BA2B.4B3A14B3A4B.BAB
2.A2.A$8.5A6BAB2AB4A4B4AB2ABA5B8A$8.A2.BA6BA3B6A2B6A3BA6BAB$4.2A3.5A
5BAB2AB4A4B4AB2ABA6B5A$4.A2.A.A2.BAB.4B3A14B3A4B.2BAB2.A$6.2A.A.2A4.
2B.20B.2B4.B3A$9.A.A4.2AB4.13B5.B2A$9.A.A4.2A4.14B.B4.2A5.B3A$10.A12.
14B2A8.2BAB2.A$11.3A10.5B2.6B.A8.2B5A$7.2A5.A8.7B.6BA3.2A3.3BAB$7.A5.
2A9.6B2.3B2.A.A2.A4.B6A$4.2A.A.3B11.7B5.2A2.2A6.BAB2.A$4.A2.A.2A2B2A
7.7B6.A3.A9.2A3.A$6.2A.A.2B2AB5.7B.B6.A4.A5.A.A3.2A$9.A.4B5.A9BA4.2A
3.2A3.3A2.A$9.2A.2BAB3.BABA2.2B.BA.A12.A4.2A$12.2B2A4B2A7.BA13.2A$2A.
2A7.3B2A4B$2A.A8.8B$3.A.B3.2A8B$3.2A2B.3BA7B$.2A2.A2BAB2A7B$A2.AB2A
12B$2A.A.AB3.7B.B2A$.A2.3AB2.7B.BA.A$.A5.A4.2BAB5.A$2.5A5.3BA5.2A$4.A
8.3AB!
p200 (by reorienting the quadri-snark and making one of the p10s shorter):

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x = 57, y = 41, rule = LifeHistory
9.2A2.2A5.2A3.2A3.A$9.A2.A.A5.A4.A4.3A$6.2A.A.2A9.A3.A6.A$4.A2.A.A2.B
AB6.2A2.2A5.2A$4.2A3.2AB3A4.A2.A.A2.3B2.5B$8.A2.AB2AB3.2A3.A6B3.4B$8.
2A2B3A8.A.6B2.5B16.2A$11.2BAB8.2A14B10.2A4.A$8.5A5.2A4.B.14B4.2A3.A2.
3A$7.A10.2AB5.13B4.B2A4.A.A$8.7A4.2B.BA16BAB.2B4.2A$13.2BAB.5BA16BA5B
.BAB2.A2.A$10.2A2B3A11B2AB2AB2A11B3AB5A$10.A2.AB2A2B2A7B2A4B2A7B2A2B
2ABA$6.2A3.2AB3A11B2AB2AB2A11B3A2B2A$6.A2.A.A2.BAB.5BA16BA5B.BA2B2.A$
8.2A.A.2A4.2B.BA16BAB.2B4.4A$11.A.A4.2AB4.13B5.B2A$11.A.A4.2A4.14B.B
4.2A5.4A$12.A12.14B2A8.BA2B2.A$13.3A10.5B2.6B.A8.3A2B2A$9.2A5.A8.7B.
6BA3.2A3.B2ABA$9.A5.2A9.6B2.3B2.A.A2.A4.3AB3A$6.2A.A.3B11.7B5.2A2.2A
6.BAB2.A$6.A2.A.2A2B2A7.7B6.A3.A9.2A3.A$8.2A.A.2B2AB5.7B.B6.A4.A5.A.A
3.2A$11.A.4B5.10BA4.2A3.2A3.3A2.A$11.2A.4B3.A3B2.2B.BA.A12.A4.2A$4.2A
8.3BA3BABA7.BA13.2A$3.A.A8.2BABA2B2A$3.A8.B.3BA4B$2A.AB.B3.BA9B$.A.A.
2AB.3A9B$.A.A.2A2B2A10B$2A.A2.5BA9B$A2.4A3BA8B.B2A$.2A2.BAB.BA8B.BA.A
$3.2A6.7B5.A$3.A7.2B.3BA5.2A$5.A9.3BA$4.2A10.3AB!
The p25 pseudo-period gun can also be reduced further, but I'm not up to trying all the possible welds right now. Here's are some preliminary ideas for the left side:

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x = 99, y = 163, rule = B3/S23
3b2o$3bo2bob2o6b2o3b2o$5b2obobo5bo3bobo$6bobobo2b2obo3bo$b2obobo3bobob
ob2ob2o$bob2o3b2o2bobobo$5b2obo3bo3bob2obo$2b2o9b2o3bob2o$2bo11bob2o$o
bo$2o$10b2o7b2o$10b2o7b2o2b2o$23bo3b2o$25bo2bo$24b3o$21b2o$21bob2o$15b
o9bob2o$14bobo8b2obo$13bo3bo$13bo3bo$13b2ob2o$4b2o23bo$3bobo22bobo$3bo
25bo$2b2o$13b2ob2o$13bo3bo$13bo3bo$2bob2o8bobo$2b2obo9bo$6b2obo$8b2o$
4b3o$2bo2bo25bo$2b2o3bo24b2o$6b2o2b2o7b2o10b2o$10b2o7b2o3$14bob2o2b2o
48bo2bo$13b2o3bo2bo22b4o21bo24b4o$5b2obo3bo3bob3o23bo3bo20bo3bo20bo3bo
$bo2bo3b2o2bobobo19b3o5bo24b4o21bo$b4obo3bobobob3o19bo6bo2bo46bo2bo$6b
obobobob2o3bo5bo11bo$3b4obobo2bo3bo2bo3bobo$3bo3b2obo4b2ob2o5bo17bobo$
4b2o3bo6bobo25b2o$6b3o7bo3bo23bo$6bo8b2o2b2o$13bo2bobo$13b2o3bo$17bo
33bo$6bo10b2o23b2o5bobo$5bobo4b2o24b2o2bo7b2o$5bobo4b2o24b2o4bob2o$2b
2obob2o34b2obobo$3bobo3bo12b2o4b2o12bo3bobo$2bo2b5o10b2obo4bob2o10b5o
2b2o5bo$2bobo3bo11b2o8b2o11bo3bobo7b2o$b2ob5o11b2obo4bob2o11b5o2bo5b2o
$2bo5bo13b2o4b2o13bo4b3o$o2b5o36b4o$3o9b2o24b2o9b2o$3b3o6b2o24b2o6b3ob
o12bo$2o4bo26b2o10bo18bo$ob5o27bo10b5o12b3o$2bo3bo26bo3b2o6bo3bo$o2b5o
25bobo2bo5b5o3b2o$2obo3bo16b2o5b2o2b2o7bo3bobo2bo$bobob2o17bo6bo3bo9b
2obob2o$bobo2bobo16b3o4bo4bo5bobo2bo19bobo$2ob2o2b2o18bo3b2o3b2o5b2o2b
2o20b2o$69bo28$30bo3b2o3b2o5b2o2b2o$28b3o4bo4bo5bobo2bo$27bo6bo3bo9b2o
bob2o$27b2o5b2o2b2o7bo3bobo2bo$36bobo2bo5b2ob2o3b2o$24b3o4b3ob2o3b2o5b
o4bo$5b2o17bo2bo2bo2bo3bo8bo2bob2o$5bo4b2o10bo4bo2bo6bo9bo$6b3o2bo3b2o
5bo5b2o6bo4b2o5b4obo$8bobo4b2o5bo5b2o4bo6b2o9b2o$10b2o12bo2bo2bo2bo12b
5o$5bo2bo3bo32bo5b3o$5b5ob2o6bob2obo8bob2obo5bo2bob2o2bo$12bo6bo4bo8bo
4bo6bo4bobo$7b2obo2bo5bob2obo8bob2obo6b2ob2o2b2o$7bo4bo32bo3bobo$8b4o
12bo2bo2bo2bo12b2obobo$15b2o6bo4b2o5bo5b2o4bob2o$6b4o5b2o4bo6b2o5bo5b
2o2bo$5bo4bo9bo6bo2bo4bo9b2o$5b2obo2bo8bo3bo2bo2bo2bo$10bo5b2o3b2ob3o
4b3o$5b3ob2o5bo2bobo$6bo3bo7b2o2b2o$4bo3b2o9bo3bo$4b2o3bobo5bo4bo46bo
2bo$8bo2b3o3b2o3b2o4bo14b4o21bo24b4o$8b2o4bo12bobo13bo3bo20bo3bo20bo3b
o$13b2o13bo6b3o5bo24b4o21bo$37bo6bo2bo46bo2bo$9b2o13bo11bo$4b2o4bo12bo
bo$4bo2b3o3b2o3b2o4bo17bobo$2o3bobo5bo4bo24b2o$o3b2o9bo3bo23bo$2bo3bo
7b2o2b2o$b6o5bo2bobo$5bo6b2o3bo$b5o10bo33bo$bo3bo10b2o23b2o5bobo$2b3o
6b2o24b2o2bo7b2o$11b2o24b2o4bob2o$4b3o35b2obobo$3bo3bo13b2o4b2o12bo3bo
bo$3b5o11b2obo4bob2o10b5o2b2o5bo$7bo11b2o8b2o11bo3bobo7b2o$b8o10b2obo
4bob2o11b5o2bo5b2o$bo2bo3bo12b2o4b2o13bo4b3o$6b2o35b4o$4bobo4b2o24b2o
9b2o$2b3o2bo3b2o24b2o6b3obo12bo$bo4b2o24b2o10bo18bo$b2o30bo10b5o12b3o$
32bo3b2o6bo3bo$32bobo2bo5b5o3b2o$23b2o5b2o2b2o7bo3bobo2bo$23bo6bo3bo9b
2obob2o$24b3o4bo4bo5bobo2bo19bobo$26bo3b2o3b2o5b2o2b2o20b2o$68bo!

Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Posted: March 23rd, 2019, 7:37 am
by calcyman
BlinkerSpawn wrote:I couldn't resist, 15587 -> 10164:
9477:

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x = 117, y = 81, rule = LifeHistory
24.2A3.A.A$24.A3.A.2A$8.2A3.2A6.2A.A3.A$8.A.A3.A5.A.A.2A.2A.2A$10.A3.
A.2A2.A.B.A5.A.A$10.2A.2A.A.A.A2B2A.3A3.3A$14.A.B.A.A5BA2.3A3.A$5.2A.
5A.2A2BA2.5B3.A3.2A.A21.A3.2A3.2A$6.A.A3.A5BA2.A3BA5.2A.A.A19.3A4.A4.
A$6.A2.A3.5B5.A8.A3.2A17.A6.A3.A$7.2A4.A3BA14.A.A2.2BA15.2A5.2A2.2A7.
A$14.BAB16.4A3B12.5B2.3B2.A.A2.A3.3A$10.2A.5B.2A15.A3BA10.4B3.6BA3.2A
2.A$10.2A7B2A2.2A8.2A5B11.5B2.6B.A6.A.2A3.2A7.2A3.2A$11.9B3.A3.2A4.A
2.3BA10.14B2A7.A.A4.A7.A.A3.A$13.5B7.A2.A5.4A5.2A4.14B.B4.2A4.A.3A10.
A3.A.2A6.2A3.2A$12.7B5.3A16.2AB4.13B5.B2A4.A.A12.2A.2A.A.A5.A3.A.A$
12.7B2.2A13.4A4.2B.20B.2B4.2A18.B.B.A2.2A.A3.A$10.B.7B.BA.2A7.2A.A2.
3BA.9B2A6B2A9B.A2B2.A2.A7.5A.2AB2A.A.A.2A.2A$9.10B2.3B.A.2A2.A.A.2A
10BA2BA4BA2BA4BA2BA8B6A7.A3.2A5B.A.B.B$7.17B.2A.A2.A.A4.A3BA4BA2BA4BA
2BA4BA2BA4BA3BA13.A3.5B2.2AB2A.5A.2A$6.9BA9B7.A2.4A8BA2BA4BA2BA4BA2BA
10B2A9.2A3.5B2.5B2A3.A.A$6.8BABA8B8.2A.A2.2BA.9B2A6B2A9B.A3B2.A16.B5.
5B3.A2.A$6.8BABA8B9.A3.2A4.2B.20B.2B4.4A23.5B4.2A$4.2AB.6BABA7B5.A4.A
.A.A4.2AB5.13B4.B2A31.3B$3.A.AB2.13B6.A.A4.2A.A4.2A4.B.14B4.2A5.4A2.
2A14.2A.5B.2A$3.A5.13B.3B.2BAB7.A.A7.2A14B10.A3B2.A2.A14.2A7B2A$2.2A
3.7BABA10B.2B8.2A.A6.A.6B2.5B11.5B2A.A16.9B$6.8BABA12B12.A2.2A3.A6B.
7B9.A3BA4.2A17.2BA2B$6.8BABA13B8.3A3.A2.A.A2.3B2.6B11.3B4A2.A16.2B3A
2B$6.9BA14B8.A7.2A2.2A5.7B10.A2B2.A.2A5.2A10.2B3A2B$2.A.2A.22B18.A3.A
6.7B11.2A3.A7.A8.B.7B.B$2.2A.A.3B2.10B.B.4B16.A4.A6.B.4BABA11.A.A.A7.
A.AB2.B.6BA6B$6.2A.AB.7B.B5.4B15.2A3.2A4.A7B2AB10.A.2A9.2AB.BAB3A2B3A
2B3ABA$8.2A2.7B8.4B24.A.AB.2B2.A3B8.2A14.2BA2B3A2B3A2B3ABAB$4.3A5.7B
9.BABA24.AB7.4B6.A2.3A5.2A4.B2A2B2A9B2A3B$2.A2.A7.5B11.B2AB33.4B5.2A
4.A3.B2AB3.2B2A3BA7BA2BA2B$2.2A3.A3.9B10.A3B33.4B9.2A3.3B5.2BA14BA.B
2A$6.2A2.2A7B2A10.4B33.4B8.B3AB.B.B5.6BA5BA3B2.BA.A$10.2A.5B.2A11.4B
33.4B9.3A4B5.6BA5BA3B5.A$2A12.BAB16.4B33.4B7.B3A10BA15BA3.2A$A.A10.A
3BA4.2A10.4B33.4B6.2AB2A8B2A3BA7BA3BAB$2.A4.A5.5B3.A2.A10.4B33.4B5.B
3A8B2A2B2A14B$2.2A.A3BA2.A5BA3.A.A11.4B33.4B3.2B3A9BA2B3A2B3A8B$5.5B
2.A2B2A.5A.2A11.4B3.10BA2BA18BA18BAB3A2B3A7B.2A.A$.A.2A5BA.A.B.A21.4B
.10BA23B2AB2A21BA8B.A.2A$.2A.A.2A2BA.A.A.2A.2A18.14BA3BA18B2A2B2A15B.
B.7B.BA.2A$6.A.B.A2.2A.A3.A17.4BA10B4A40B3.2B3A2B2.2A$5.2A.A.A5.A3.A.
A14.6B2A36B.15B3.2B3A2B5.3A$3.A2.A.2A6.2A3.2A13.4B2.2A2B39.4B2.4B6.2B
A2B7.A2.A$3.2A21.AB7.2A2B4.4B36.5B4.2B5.9B3.A3.2A$25.A.AB.2B2.ABAB6.
4B35.2A13.2A7B2A2.2A$15.2A3.2A4.A9BA8.4B35.A13.2A.5B.2A$15.A4.A6.B.7B
10.3BA31.3A18.3B$17.A3.A6.7B12.3BA30.A19.5B4.2A$16.2A2.2A5.7B14.3AB
43.B5.5B3.A2.A$14.A2.A.A2.3B2.6B16.4B35.2A3.5B2.5B2A3.A.A$14.2A3.A6B.
7B16.4B35.A3.5B2.2AB2A.5A.2A$3.2A13.A.6B2.5B18.4B33.A3.2A5B.A.B.B$3.A
4.2A8.2A14B10.2A6.4B32.5A.2AB2A.A.A.2A.2A$4.3A2.A3.2A4.B.14B4.2A3.A2.
2A4.BABA37.B.B.A2.2A.A3.A$6.A.A4.2AB5.13B4.B2A4.A.A.A4.B2AB32.2A.2A.A
.A5.A3.A.A$8.2A4.2B.20B.2B4.2A3.A5.A3B31.A3.A.2A6.2A3.2A$3.A2.A2.BAB.
4B3A14B3A4B.BAB2.A2.2A4.4B28.A.A3.A$3.8A5BAB2AB4A4B4AB2ABA5B7A2.A4.4B
27.2A3.2A$8.BA6BA3B6A2B6A3BA6BAB4.2A6.4B$5.5A6BAB2AB4A4B4AB2ABA6B5A.A
8.3BA$5.A2.BA2B.4B3A14B3A4B.2BAB2.A.A.A7.ABAB$6.3AB4.2B.20B.2B4.B3A3.
2A8.2A2B$13.2AB4.13B5.B2A21.4B$4.3AB5.2A4.14B.B4.2A5.B3A13.4B$3.A2.BA
2B10.14B2A8.2BAB2.A13.4B$3.5A2B11.5B2.6B.A8.2B5A14.2BAB$6.BA3B10.4B3.
6BA3.2A3.3BAB18.2B2A$3.6AB12.5B2.3B2.A.A2.A4.B6A16.2A2B$4.A2.BAB15.2A
5.2A2.2A6.BAB2.A18.4B$2.A3.2A17.A6.A3.A9.2A3.A17.4B$2.2A3.A.A16.3A4.A
4.A5.A.A3.2A18.4B$6.A2.3A16.A3.2A3.2A3.3A2.A23.3BA$6.2A4.A28.A4.2A24.
3BA$11.2A28.2A30.3AB!

Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Posted: March 23rd, 2019, 10:33 am
by googoIpIex
Reductions to the p800:

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x = 57, y = 57, rule = LifeHistory
9.2A2.2A5.2A3.2A3.A$9.A2.A.A5.A4.A4.3A$6.2A.A.2A9.A3.A6.A$4.A2.A.A2.B
AB6.2A2.2A5.2A$4.2A3.2ABA2B4.A2.A.A2.3B2.5B$8.A2.2BA2B3.2A3.A3BA2B3.B
A2B$8.2AB3AB8.A.AB3AB2.B3AB16.2A$11.B2AB8.4A2B2A2B2A2BAB10.2A4.A$8.4A
B5.2A4.B.3ABA2BAB4AB4.2A3.A2.3A$7.A10.2AB5.5A2B5AB4.B2A4.A.A$8.6AB4.
2B.7B2A2B2A7B.2B4.2A$13.B2AB.28B.BAB2.A2.A$10.2AB3A7B2A14B2A8BAB5A$
10.A2.2BA6B3AB3A6B3AB3A6BA2B$6.2A3.2ABA8B2A14B2A7B3AB2A$6.A2.A.A2.BAB
.28B.B2AB2.A$8.2A.A.2A4.2B.7B2A2B2A7B.2B4.B3A$11.A.A4.2AB4.B5A2B5A5.B
2A$11.A.A4.2A4.B4ABA2BAB3A.B4.2A5.B3A$12.A12.BA2B2A2B2A2B4A8.B2AB2.A$
13.3A10.B3AB2.B3ABA.A8.B3AB2A$9.2A5.A8.3BA3B.2BA3BA3.2A3.2BA2B$9.A5.
2A9.6B2.3B2.A.A2.A4.2BAB3A$6.2A.A.3B11.7B5.2A2.2A6.BAB2.A$6.A2.A.2A2B
2A7.7B6.A3.A9.2A3.A$8.2A.A.2B2AB5.7B.B6.A4.A5.A.A3.2A$11.A.4B5.10BA4.
2A3.2A3.3A2.A$11.2A.4B3.4B2.2B.BA.A12.A4.2A$4.2A8.10B7.BA13.2A$3.A.A
8.9B$3.A8.B.8B$2A.AB.B3.7BA3B$.A.A.2AB.7BA4B$.A.A.2A9B3A2B$2A.A2.5B2A
8B$A2.4A3BA2BA5B.B2A5.2A$.2A2.BAB.2B2A6B.BA.A5.A$3.2A6.7B5.A3.A5.2A$
3.A7.2B.4B5.2A2.2A5.A$5.A9.4B11.3B.A.2A$4.2A10.4B7.2A2B2A.A2.A$17.4B
5.B2A2B.A.2A$18.4B5.4B.A$19.4B3.4B.2A$20.6BA3B8.2A$21.4BABA2B8.A.A$
22.4BA3B.B8.A$23.9BAB3.B.BA.2A$23.9B3A.B2A.A.A$23.10B2A2B2A.A.A$23.9B
A5B2.A.2A$21.2AB.8BA3B4A2.A$20.A.AB.8BAB.BAB2.2A$20.A5.7B6.2A$19.2A5.
A3B.2B7.A$25.A3B9.A$24.B3A10.2A!
Edit:
And the p984:

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x = 62, y = 35, rule = LifeHistory
35.A$35.3A$33.2A3.A$25.3B4.A.A.2A.A$24.4B3.2BABA.A.A$18.4B.8B.4B.A.2A
$15.16B2.BAB.A$14.17B2.2BA.A$14.15B5.2A.2A$13.16B$.2A5.2B3.17B$2.A5.
3B2.18B$2.A.AB.4B3.18B$3.2AB.5B.20B9.2A2.2A$5.8B.20B8.A4.A$5.30B4.BA.
A2.A5.2A$5.6BABA24B.B2A3.2A5.A$6.5BABA26B8.3B.A.2A$6.5B2ABAB2A22B5.2A
2B2A.A2.A$8.4BAB4AB2A6B2.11B4.B2A2B.A.2A$8.4BA5BABA7B.11B5.4B.A$9.7B
4A7B4.B2.2B.4B3.4B.2A$10.2B4A12B2.3B5.6BA3B8.2A$11.3B5A9B.B2AB6.4BABA
2B8.A.A$12.2BA3BA9B2.2A8.4BA3B.B8.A$2.2A.2A5.5B2A8B14.9BAB3.B.BA.2A$
3.A.2AB2.4B2AB2A8B14.9B3A.B2A.A.A$3.A.2BA2.6BA9B15.10B2A2B2A.A.A$2A.A
.ABAB.8B.4B18.9BA5B2.A.2A$.A.A.3BAB3.4B22.2AB.8BA3B4A2.A$.A.2A.B.A4.
3B22.A.AB.8BAB.BAB2.2A$2.A3.2A30.A5.7B6.2A$3.3A31.2A5.A3B.2B7.A$5.A
37.A3B9.A$42.B3A10.2A!

Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Posted: March 23rd, 2019, 5:40 pm
by chris_c
Kazyan wrote:Bullet's p10 sparker can form a smaller stabilization for the p50 gun, replacing the previous bulky p30 blinker-pushing mechanism. This leads to new smaller p50, p100, and p200 guns:
Nice!
googoIpIex wrote:Reductions to the p800:
Thanks.
googoIpIex wrote: Edit:
And the p984:
Seems to be bigger than this.
Sokwe wrote: The p25 pseudo-period gun can also be reduced further, but I'm not up to trying all the possible welds right now. Here's are some preliminary ideas for the left side:
Using the first of your left-hand-sides:

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x = 111, y = 75, rule = LifeHistory
3.2A$3.A2.A.2A6.2A3.2A$5.2A.A.A5.A3.A.A$6.A.B.A2.2A.A3.A$.2A.A.2A2BA.
A.A.2A.2A$.A.2A5BA.A.B.A$5.5B2.A2B2A.2A.A$2.2A.A3BA2.A5BA.2A$2.A4.A5.
5B23.2A64.2A$A.A10.A3BA18.2A4.A33.2A29.A$2A12.BAB19.A2.3A16.A3.2A3.2A
8.A30.A$10.2A.2BA2B.2A11.2A3.A.A16.3A4.A4.A8.A.2A26.2A$10.2A3BA3B2A2.
2A7.A3.2A17.A6.A3.A9.2A.A.A8.2A3.2A4.2A.2A$11.3BABA3B3.A3.2A5.A2.BAB
15.2A5.2A2.2A6.BAB2.A.A8.A.A3.A5.A.A.5A$13.2BA2B7.A2.A4.4ABAB12.5B2.
3B2.A.A2.A4.BAB3A2.2A8.A3.A.2A2.A.B.B3.A$12.3BA3B5.3A9.5B10.4B3.6BA3.
2A3.5B2.A.A9.2A.2A.A.A.2AB2A.A$12.7B2.2A10.3AB2AB11.5B2.6B.A8.B2AB3A.
A13.B.B.A.5B3A$10.B.7B.BA.2A8.A2.BA2B10.14B2A8.2BAB3.A9.A.2A.2AB2A2.
5B2.A$9.10B2.3B.A.2A5.3AB5.2A4.14B.B4.2A5.B4A10.2A.2A5B2.5B.2A$7.17B.
2A.A14.2AB4.13B5.B2A24.5B5.B$6.19B11.3AB4.2B.BA16BAB.2B4.B4A16.5B$6.
8B3A8B10.A2.BA2B.4BAB2AB2A6B2AB2ABA4B.2BAB3.A16.3B$6.8B3A8B10.3AB2A5B
A8BA2BA8BA5B2AB3A.A11.2A.5B.2A$4.2AB.7BA8B5.A8.7B2A8BA2BA8B2A7B2.A.A
11.2A7B2A$3.A.AB2.13B6.A.A2.6ABA5BA8BA2BA8BA5BAB3A2.2A11.9B$3.A5.13B.
3B.B2AB2.A2.A2.BAB.4BAB2AB2A6B2AB2ABA4B.BAB2.A.A15.5B$2.2A3.8BA11B.2A
8.2A4.2B.BA16BAB.2B4.2A.A.A14.7B$6.8B3A5B2A3B2A7.A.A4.2AB5.13B4.B2A4.
A.2A3.2A10.7B$6.8B3A10B3A4.3A2.A3.2A4.B.14B4.2A4.A7.A8.B.7B.B$6.18B2A
2B2A3.A4.2A8.2A14B10.2A7.A.AB2.B.13B$2.A.2A.18BABAB4.2A13.A.6B2.5B21.
2AB.18B$2.2A.A.3B2.10B.B.3AB15.2A3.A6B.7B8.A13.11BA9B$6.2A.AB.7B.B5.
4B14.A2.A.A2.3B2.6B9.3A5.2A4.10BABA8B$8.2A2.7B8.4B15.2A2.2A5.7B11.A3.
B2AB3.9B2AB2A7B$4.3A5.3BA3B9.4B15.A3.A6.7B9.2A3.3B5.18B.B2A$2.A2.A7.
2BA2B11.4B12.A4.A6.B.7B8.5B.B.B5.16B2.BA.A$2.2A3.A3.3BABA3B10.4B11.2A
3.2A4.A8BAB9.7B5.16B5.A$6.2A2.2A3BA3B2A10.4B20.A.AB.2B2.2B2A7.31B3.2A
$10.2A.2BA2B.2A11.4B20.AB7.2A2B6.20B2AB2A7B$14.BAB16.4B29.4B5.13BA7BA
BA8B$13.A3BA16.4B29.4B3.6B2A5BABA7BA9B$7.A5.5B2.2A13.2BAB3.16BA2BA16B
2A2BA4BA2BA15B.2A.A$5.A3BA2.A5BA2.A14.2B2A.16BA20B2AB2A6BA11B2.3B.A.
2A$5.5B2.A2B2A.3A16.2A18BA3BA16B2AB2A3B4AB.B.7B.BA.2A$.A2.A5BA.A.B.A
19.21B4A19BA4BA2BA2B3.7B2.2A$.4A.2A2BA.A.A.3A16.40B.9BABA3B3.7B5.3A$
6.A.B.A.A.2A3.A5.AB7.4B2.4B35.4B2.BA2B6.5B7.A2.A$3.4A.A.A2.A3.A2.A3.A
.AB.AB2.4B4.3BA32.5B4.2B5.9B3.A3.2A$3.A3.2A.A4.2A.2A5.AB4A5B6.3BA31.
2A13.2A7B2A2.2A$4.2A3.A6.A.A7.B.3BA3B8.3AB31.A13.2A.5B.2A$6.3A7.A3.A
6.4B2AB10.4B27.3A4.2A12.3B$6.A8.2A2.2A5.4B2AB12.4B26.A6.A.A10.5B$13.A
2.A.A2.3B2.6B14.4B34.A4.B5.5B$13.2A3.A6B.BABA3B14.4B33.2A.5B2.5B2A.2A
$17.A.6B2.BA3B16.BABA35.5B2.2AB2A.2A.A$6.A10.2A14B9.2A5.B2AB30.A.3A5B
.A.B.B$5.A.A4.2A4.B.14B4.2A2.A7.A3B29.2A.A.2AB2A.A.A.2A.2A$5.A.A4.2AB
5.13B4.B2A4.A.2A3.4B33.B.B.A2.2A.A3.A$2.2A.A.2A4.2B.4BA10BA4B.2B4.2A.
A.A3.4B31.2A.A.A5.A3.A.A$3.A.A2.BAB.7BA2BA6BA2BA7B.BAB2.A.A4.4B28.A2.
A.2A6.2A3.2A$2.A2.2AB3A2BABA7BA4BA7BABA2B3AB2A2.2A3.3BA27.2A$2.A.A2.A
B2A2BA2BA6BA4BA6BA2BA2B2ABA2.A.A5.ABAB$.2A.2A2B3A2BABA7BA4BA7BABA2B3A
2B2A2.A5.2A2B$2.A4.2BAB.7BA2BA6BA2BA7B.BA2B3.3A6.4B$A2.6A4.2B.4BA10BA
4B.2B4.5A10.4B$3A9.2AB4.13B5.B2A9.2A8.4B$3.4A5.2A4.14B.B4.2A5.4A.A9.
2BAB$2A3.2BAB10.14B2A8.BA2B14.2B2A$A.2A2B3A11.5B2.6B.A8.3A2B2A12.2A2B
$2.A2.AB2AB10.4B3.6BA3.2A3.B2ABA2.A13.4B$A2.2AB3A12.5B2.3B2.A.A2.A4.
3AB2A3.2A10.4B$2A.A2.BAB15.2A5.2A2.2A6.BAB2.A.A2.A11.4B$.A.A.2A17.A6.
A3.A9.2A.A.2A14.3BA$.A.A2.A.A16.3A4.A4.A5.A.A2.A18.3BA$2A.2A2.2A18.A
3.2A3.2A5.2A2.2A19.3AB!
Also a reduced p400 is possible:

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x = 57, y = 50, rule = LifeHistory
9.2A2.2A5.2A3.2A3.A$9.A2.A.A5.A4.A4.3A$6.2A.A.2A9.A3.A6.A$4.A2.A.A2.B
AB6.2A2.2A5.2A$4.2A3.5AB4.A2.A.A2.3B2.5B$8.A2.BA3B3.2A3.A6B3.4B$8.5A
2B8.A.6B2.5B16.2A$11.BA2B8.2A14B10.2A4.A$8.4AB5.2A4.B.14B4.2A3.A2.3A$
7.A10.ABA5.13B4.ABA4.A.A$8.6AB4.2B.8B4A8B.2B4.2A$13.BA2B.BA9B6A9BAB.B
AB2.A2.A$10.5A13B8A12B8A$10.A2.BA6B3A3B2A6B2A3B3A6BAB$6.2A3.5A12B8A
13B5A$6.A2.A.A2.BAB.BA9B6A9BAB.2BAB2.A$8.2A.A.2A4.2B.8B4A8B.2B4.B3A$
11.A.A4.ABA4.13B5.ABA$11.A.A4.2A4.14B.B4.2A5.B3A$12.A12.14B2A8.2BAB2.
A$13.3A10.5B2.6B.A8.2B5A$9.2A5.A8.7B.6BA3.2A3.3BAB$9.A5.2A9.6B2.3B2.A
.A2.A4.B6A$6.2A.A.3B11.A6B5.2A2.2A6.BAB2.A$6.A2.A.2A2B2A7.A6B6.A3.A9.
2A3.A$8.2A.A.2B2AB5.B3A3B.B6.A4.A5.A.A3.2A$11.A.4B5.10BA4.2A3.2A3.3A
2.A$11.2A.4B3.4B2.2B.BA.A12.A4.2A$4.2A8.10B7.BA13.2A$3.A.A8.9B$3.A8.B
.8B$2A.AB.B3.11B$.A.A.2AB.12B$.A.A.2A14B8.8B$2A.A2.5B2A8B7.3B2A5B$A2.
4A3BA2BA5B.B2A5.2BA2BA4B$.2A2.BAB.2B2A6B.BA.A3.2B2A8B$3.2A6.7B5.A2.2B
3A5BA3B$3.A7.2B.4B5.2A2.BA.BA3BA.AB$4.A10.4B10.3A3B2A$3.2A11.4B$17.4B
8.3A3B2A$18.4B5.BA.BA3BA.AB$19.4B3.2B3A5BA3B$20.4B3.2B2A8B$21.4B.4BA
2BA4B$22.9B2A5B$23.3BA10B$24.3BA$25.3AB!

Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Posted: March 23rd, 2019, 7:08 pm
by calcyman
chris_c wrote:Using the first of your left-hand-sides:

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x = 111, y = 75, rule = LifeHistory
8325 --> 7800 by adding a Snark:

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x = 120, y = 65, rule = LifeHistory
33.A6.2A.2A2.2A18.A3.2A3.2A5.2A2.2A20.2A.2A.2A2.A$28.2A3.3A3.A.A.A2.A
.A16.3A4.A4.A5.A.A2.A18.A2.A.A3.4A$A2.2A.2A.2A17.A.A5.A.A2.A.A.2A17.A
6.A3.A9.2A.A.2A11.A.4A.A2.2A$4A3.A.A2.A17.A4.2A.A.2A.A2.BAB15.2A5.2A
2.2A6.BAB2.A.A2.A9.2A4.A.A.A.5A$5.2A2.A.4A.2A8.4A.2A2.A2.A.A2.AB2A2B
12.5B2.3B2.A.A2.A4.2B2ABA3.2A12.2A.A.A.B.A3.A$5A.A.A.A4.2A.A7.A2.A.A.
A.A.2A3.A2.BA3B10.4B3.6BA3.2A3.3BAB2.A11.5A.A.A.A2BAB.A$A3.B.A.A.A.2A
4.A9.BABABA.A2.A.A.4A3B11.5B2.6B.A8.3B4A10.A4.A.B.A.ABABAB2A$2.A.A2B
2A.A.A.4A11.B2ABA.A2.A.2A3.A3B10.14B2A8.3BA14.3A.BA2BA2.5A2.A$.4A4B.A
.A.B15.2B.BA4.A3.3AB5.2A4.14B.B4.2A5.B4A13.ABABABA2.B3AB.2A$A2.5B2.2A
2BA.4A.2A6.3B8.3A9.ABA4.13B5.ABA10.A13.5A5.B$2A.5B2.4B3A2.A.A6.4B12.
4AB4.BA.20B.AB4.B6A14.B3AB$5.B5.5B5.A6.B2A3B6.4A3.A3B.A10B6A10BA.3BA
20.3B$11.5B5.A.AB3.B2A3B6.A3.4A4BA3BA5BA6BA5BA3BA4B4A13.2A.5B.2A$12.
3B7.2AB.10B6.A.A2.BA7BA4BA8BA4BA7BAB2.A13.2A7B2A$8.2A.5B.2A5.13B4.2A
2.AB2A3BA3BA5BA6BA5BA3BA3B2ABA5.A9.9B$4.2A2.2A7B2A5.14B5.A.A2.BAB.A
10B6A10BA.BAB2.A.A.3A11.2BA2B$2A3.A3.9B6.4B2A9B4.A.A.2A4.BA.20B.AB4.
2A.A.2A13.3BA3B$A2.A7.5B10.3B2A3B2.4B4.2A.A4.ABA5.13B4.ABA4.A.A4.2A
10.3BA3B$2.3A5.7B9.2BA3B5.4B8.A2.2A4.B.14B4.2A4.A.A5.A8.B.7B.B$6.2A2.
7B8.9B4.BABA6.2A7.2A14B12.A6.A.AB2.B.6BA6B$4.2A.AB.7B.B5.4B4.2A5.B2AB
14.A.6B2.5B21.2AB.8B3A7B$2A.A.3B2.10B.B.4B5.A7.A3B9.2A3.A6B.7B8.A13.
9BABABA7B$A.2A.22B6.3A5.4B8.A2.A.A2.3B2.6B9.3A5.2A4.9BABABA7B$4.9BA
14B7.A6.4B9.2A2.2A5.5BAB11.A3.B2AB3.10B3A8B$4.7B2AB2A12B15.4B9.A3.A6.
5B2A9.2A3.3B5.10BA7B.B2A$4.7B2AB2A11B17.4B6.A4.A6.B.3B2A2B8.5B.B.B5.
16B2.BA.A$2A3.20B.2B17.4B5.2A3.2A4.A10B9.7B5.16B5.A$.A5.13B.3B.2BAB
17.4B14.A.AB.2B2.4B7.5B2A15BA8B3.2A$.A.AB2.13B6.A.A18.4B14.AB7.4B6.5B
ABA3BA9B3A8B$2.2AB.16B5.A20.4B23.4B5.5BAB6A7BABABA7B$4.7B2AB2A7B26.4B
23.4B3.7BA2BAB2A7BABABA7B$4.7B2AB2A7B27.2BAB3.16BA2BA13BA2BA11B3A7B.
2A.A$4.9BA9B28.2B2A.16BA18B2A13BA3B2.3B.A.2A$5.17B.2A.A25.2A18BA3BA
19B3AB.B.7B.BA.2A$7.10B2.3B.A.2A24.21B4A22BAB3.3BA3B2.2A$8.B.7B.BA.2A
27.34B.10B3A2B3.3BA3B5.3A$10.7B2.2A19.AB7.4B2.4B29.4B2.4B6.2BA2B7.A2.
A$10.7B5.3A14.A.AB.AB2.4B4.3BA26.5B4.2B5.9B3.A3.2A$11.5B7.A2.A2.2A3.
2A4.AB4A5B6.3BA25.2A13.2A7B2A2.2A$9.9B3.A3.2A2.A4.A6.B.3BA3B8.3AB25.A
13.2A.5B.2A$8.2A7B2A2.2A8.A3.A6.4B2AB10.4B21.3A4.2A12.3B$8.2A.5B.2A
11.2A2.2A5.4B2AB12.4B20.A6.A.A10.B3AB$12.3B13.A2.A.A2.3B2.6B14.4B28.A
4.B5.5A$11.5B12.2A3.A6B.BABA3B14.4B27.2A.B3AB2.ABABABA.2A$5.B5.5B16.A
.6B2.BA3B16.BABA29.5A2.A2BAB.2A.A$2A.5B2.4B3A6.2A7.2A14B9.2A5.B2AB24.
A.2ABABABA.A.B.A$A2.5B2.2A2BA.3A3.A.A2.2A4.B.14B4.2A2.A7.A3B23.2A.A.B
A2BA.A.A.2A.2A$.4A4B.A.A.B4.A2.A4.2AB5.13B4.B2A4.A.2A3.4B27.A.B.A2.2A
.A3.A$2.A.A2B2A.A.A.5A.A.2A4.2B.4BA10BA4B.2B4.2A.A.A3.4B25.2A.A.A5.A
3.A.A$A3.B.A.A.A.2A4.A.A2.BAB.7BA2BA6BA2BA7B.BAB2.A.A4.4B22.A2.A.2A6.
2A3.2A$5A.A.A.A4.3A2.2AB3A2BABA7BA4BA7BABA2B3AB2A2.2A3.3BA21.2A$5.2A
2.A.4A2.A.A2.AB2A2BA2BA6BA4BA6BA2BA2B2ABA2.A.A5.ABAB$4A3.A.A2.A2.2A2.
2A2B3A2BABA7BA4BA7BABA2B3A2B2A2.A5.2A2B$A2.2A.2A.2A3.A2.2A3.2BAB.7BA
2BA6BA2BA7B.BA2B3.3A6.4B$15.2A2.5A4.2B.4BA10BA4B.2B4.5A10.4B$17.A9.2A
B4.13B5.B2A9.2A8.4B$17.5A5.2A4.14B.B4.2A5.4A.A9.2BAB$20.2BAB10.14B2A
8.BA2B14.2B2A$17.2A2B3A11.5B2.6B.A8.3A2B2A12.2A2B$17.A2.AB2AB10.4B3.
6BA3.2A3.B2ABA2.A13.4B$13.2A3.2AB3A12.5B2.3B2.A.A2.A4.3AB2A3.2A10.4B$
13.A2.A.A2.BAB15.2A5.2A2.2A6.BAB2.A.A2.A11.4B$15.2A.A.2A17.A6.A3.A9.
2A.A.2A14.3BA$18.A2.A.A16.3A4.A4.A5.A.A2.A18.3BA$18.2A2.2A18.A3.2A3.
2A5.2A2.2A19.3AB!

Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Posted: March 24th, 2019, 7:13 am
by chris_c
calcyman wrote: 8325 --> 7800 by adding a Snark:
Excellent. Saved one more column on the left side:

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x = 119, y = 65, rule = LifeHistory
37.2A3.2A2.2A18.A3.2A3.2A5.2A2.2A20.2A.2A.2A2.A$3.2A32.A4.A2.A.A16.3A
4.A4.A5.A.A2.A18.A2.A.A3.4A$4.A23.2A8.3A.A.2A17.A6.A3.A9.2A.A.2A11.A.
4A.A2.2A$2.A25.A.A9.A.A2.BAB15.2A5.2A2.2A6.BAB2.A.A2.A9.2A4.A.A.A.5A$
2.2A26.A4.2A5.AB2A2B12.5B2.3B2.A.A2.A4.2B2ABA3.2A12.2A.A.A.B.A3.A$5.
2A.2A4.2A3.2A5.4A.2A2.A2.A2.A2.BA3B10.4B3.6BA3.2A3.3BAB2.A11.5A.A.A.A
2BAB.A$5A.A.A5.A3.A.A5.A2.A.A.A.A.2A2.4A3B11.5B2.6B.A8.3B4A10.A4.A.B.
A.ABABAB2A$A3.A.B.A2.2A.A3.A9.BABABA.A8.A3B10.14B2A8.3BA14.3A.BA2BA2.
5A2.A$2.A.2BABA.A.A.2A.2A10.B2ABA.A5.4AB5.2A4.14B.B4.2A5.B4A13.ABABAB
A2.B3AB.2A$.2ABA3BA.A.B.A15.2B.BA5.A10.ABA4.13B5.ABA10.A13.5A5.B$A2.
3ABA2.ABA2B.5A8.3B9.6AB4.BA.20B.AB4.B6A14.B3AB$2A.3BAB2.A3BABA2.A.A6.
4B14.A3B.A10B6A10BA.3BA20.3B$5.B5.AB3A5.A6.B2A3B9.4A4BA3BA5BA6BA5BA3B
A4B4A13.2A.5B.2A$11.BA3B5.A.AB3.B2A3B5.2A2.A2.BA7BA4BA8BA4BA7BAB2.A
13.2A7B2A$12.3B7.2AB.10B4.A3.AB2A3BA3BA5BA6BA5BA3BA3B2ABA5.A9.9B$8.2A
.5B.2A5.13B3.A.A.A2.BAB.A10B6A10BA.BAB2.A.A.3A11.2BA2B$4.2A2.2A3BA3B
2A5.14B3.2A.A.2A4.BA.20B.AB4.2A.A.2A13.3BA3B$2A3.A3.3BABA3B6.15B5.A.A
4.ABA5.13B4.ABA4.A.A4.2A10.3BA3B$A2.A7.5B10.B2A5B2.4B4.A.A4.2A4.B.14B
4.2A4.A.A5.A8.B.7B.B$2.3A5.A5BA9.2B2A2B5.BABA4.A10.2A14B12.A6.A.AB2.B
.6BA6B$6.2A2.3BA3B8.2BA6B4.B2AB14.A.6B2.5B21.2AB.8B3A7B$4.2A.AB.2A3B
2A.B5.4B4.2A5.A3B9.2A3.A6B.7B8.A13.9BABABA7B$2A.A.3B2.10B.B.4B5.A7.4B
8.A2.A.A2.3B2.6B9.3A5.2A4.9BABABA7B$A.2A.22B6.3A5.4B9.2A2.2A5.5BAB11.
A3.B2AB3.10B3A8B$4.24B7.A6.4B9.A3.A6.5B2A9.2A3.3B5.10BA7B.B2A$4.9BA
14B15.4B6.A4.A6.B.3B2A2B8.5B.B.B5.16B2.BA.A$4.8B3A12B17.4B5.2A3.2A4.A
10B9.7B5.16B5.A$2A3.20B.2B17.4B14.A.AB.2B2.4B7.5B2A15BA8B3.2A$.A5.5B
3A5B.3B.2BAB17.4B14.AB7.4B6.5BABA3BA9B3A8B$.A.AB2.5B3A5B6.A.A18.4B23.
4B5.5BAB6A7BABABA7B$2.2AB.16B5.A20.4B23.4B3.7BA2BAB2A7BABABA7B$4.8B3A
8B26.2BAB3.16BA2BA13BA2BA11B3A7B.2A.A$4.9BA9B27.2B2A.16BA18B2A13BA3B
2.3B.A.2A$4.19B28.2A18BA3BA19B3AB.B.7B.BA.2A$5.17B.2A.A23.21B4A22BAB
3.3BA3B2.2A$7.10B2.3B.A.2A22.34B.10B3A2B3.3BA3B5.3A$8.B.2A3B2A.BA.2A
16.AB7.4B2.4B29.4B2.4B6.2BA2B7.A2.A$10.3BA3B2.2A17.A.AB.AB2.4B4.3BA
26.5B4.2B5.9B3.A3.2A$10.A5BA5.3A.A2.2A2.2A4.AB4A5B6.3BA25.2A13.2A7B2A
2.2A$11.5B7.A.2A2.A3.A6.B.3BA3B8.3AB25.A13.2A.5B.2A$9.3BABA3B3.A8.A3.
A6.4B2AB10.4B21.3A4.2A12.3B$8.2A3BA3B2A2.2A6.2A2.2A5.4B2AB12.4B20.A6.
A.A10.B3AB$8.2A.5B.2A8.A2.A.A2.3B2.6B14.4B28.A4.B5.5A$12.3B12.2A3.A6B
.BABA3B14.4B27.2A.B3AB2.ABABABA.2A$11.BA3B15.A.6B2.BA3B16.BABA29.5A2.
A2BAB.2A.A$5.B5.AB3A5.2A8.2A14B9.2A5.B2AB24.A.2ABABABA.A.B.A$2A.3BAB
2.A3BABA.2A2.A3.2A4.B.14B4.2A2.A7.A3B23.2A.A.BA2BA.A.A.2A.2A$A2.3ABA
2.ABA2B.2A.A.A4.2AB5.13B4.B2A4.A.2A3.4B27.A.B.A2.2A.A3.A$.2ABA3BA.A.B
.A6.2A4.2B.4BA10BA4B.2B4.2A.A.A3.4B25.2A.A.A5.A3.A.A$2.A.2BABA.A.A.4A
.A2.BAB.7BA2BA6BA2BA7B.BAB2.A.A4.4B22.A2.A.2A6.2A3.2A$A3.A.B.A.A.2A4.
3AB3A2BABA7BA4BA7BABA2B3AB2A2.2A3.3BA21.2A$5A.A.A.A4.2A4.AB2A2BA2BA6B
A4BA6BA2BA2B2ABA2.A.A5.ABAB$5.2A.A.A5.A.2A2B3A2BABA7BA4BA7BABA2B3A2B
2A2.A5.2A2B$2.2A5.A5.A2.A2.2BAB.7BA2BA6BA2BA7B.BA2B3.3A6.4B$2.A12.2A
2.4A4.2B.4BA10BA4B.2B4.5A10.4B$4.A21.2AB4.13B5.B2A9.2A8.4B$3.2A8.8A5.
2A4.14B.B4.2A5.4A.A9.2BAB$13.A5.2BAB10.14B2A8.BA2B14.2B2A$16.2A2B3A
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Posted: March 24th, 2019, 12:26 pm
by googoIpIex
Why does the gun collection only go up to p1000? I'm sure there's more tiny guns for higher periods...