## is this c/10 spaceship known?

For discussion of specific patterns or specific families of patterns, both newly-discovered and well-known.

### Re: is this c/10 spaceship known?

muzik wrote:What I want to see is the other way round: a glider-to-copperhead or glider-to-fireship conduit. We already have a ridiculous space rakes to loafers conduit, so let's see what we can do with c/10.

Periodic or stable?

It's trivial to make a periodic glider-to-spaceship converter (of course, if that spaceship has a synthesis) but not as easy to make a stable one.

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### Re: is this c/10 spaceship known?

Give me a periodic one in that case.

As an added bonus, could this stream of gliders be made into one for the conduit thread?

x = 3717, y = 3601, rule = B3/S2343$3667bo$3667bobo$3667b2o58$3607bo$3607bobo$3607b2o178$3427bo$3427bobo$3427b2o58$3367bo$3367bobo$3367b2o178$3187bo$3187bobo$3187b2o118$3067bo$3067bobo$3067b2o358$2707bo$2707bobo$2707b2o58$2647bo$2647bobo$2647b2o58$2587bo$2587bobo$2587b2o58$2527bo$2527bobo$2527b2o58$2467bo$2467bobo$2467b2o58$2407bo$2407bobo$2407b2o178$2227bo$2227bobo$2227b2o358$1867bo$1867bobo$1867b2o298$1567bo$1567bobo$1567b2o538$1027bo$1027bobo$1027b2o238$787bo$787bobo$787b2o178$607bo$607bobo$607b2o298$307bo$307bobo$307b2o! Bored of using the Moore neighbourhood for everything? Introducing the Range-2 von Neumann isotropic non-totalistic rulespace! muzik Posts: 3465 Joined: January 28th, 2016, 2:47 pm Location: Scotland ### Re: is this c/10 spaceship known? muzik wrote:Give me a periodic one in that case. This concept can be used for any period as long as you can build a copperhead gun for that period. x = 604, y = 541, rule = 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gmc_nxtman

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### Re: is this c/10 spaceship known?

And now it's in the Infinite Conduit.

So how about a stable one now?
Bored of using the Moore neighbourhood for everything? Introducing the Range-2 von Neumann isotropic non-totalistic rulespace!
muzik

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### Re: is this c/10 spaceship known?

muzik wrote:So how about a stable one now?
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There is a script by chris_c to convert glider to any salvo, using stable circuitry. I'm not sure how to find it, probably the best is asking him or dvgrn.

I think this kind of projects is a good beginners practice, and good introduction to construction in GOL. I've even opened a thread for practice of this sort.

simsim314

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### Re: is this c/10 spaceship known?

muzik wrote:And now it's in the Infinite Conduit.

So how about a stable one now?

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### Re: is this c/10 spaceship known?

A copperhead can suppress the back sparks of a fireship:
x = 12, y = 54, rule = B3/S235b2o$4b4o2$3b6o$4b4o2$3b2o2b2o$b2obo2bob2o$4bo2bo3$5b2o$5b2o2$2bobo2bobo$bo2bo2bo2bo$bo8bo$bo8bo$b2o6b2o$3b6o2$5b2o$4b4o2$3b6o$4b4o2$3b2o2b2o$b2obo2bob2o$4bo2bo3$5b2o$5b2o! Actually found with the new zfind update. x₁=ηx V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη) K=(Λu²)/2 Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt) $$x_1=\eta x$$ $$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$ $$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$ $$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$ http://conwaylife.com/wiki/A_for_all Aidan F. Pierce A for awesome Posts: 1877 Joined: September 13th, 2014, 5:36 pm Location: 0x-1 ### Re: is this c/10 spaceship known? A for awesome wrote:A copperhead can suppress the back sparks of a fireship: x = 12, y = 54, rule = B3/S235b2o$4b4o2$3b6o$4b4o2$3b2o2b2o$b2obo2bob2o$4bo2bo3$5b2o$5b2o2$2bobo2bobo$bo2bo2bo2bo$bo8bo$bo8bo$b2o6b2o$3b6o2$5b2o$4b4o2$3b6o$4b4o2$3b2o2b2o$b2obo2bob2o$4bo2bo3$5b2o$5b2o!

Actually found with the new zfind update.

I'm pretty sure you meant:
x = 10, y = 34, rule = B3/S234b2o$3b4o2$2b6o$3b4o2$2b2o2b2o$2obo2bob2o$3bo2bo3$4b2o$4b2o2$bobo2bobo$o2bo2bo2bo$o8bo$o8bo$2o6b2o$2b6o2$4b2o$3b4o2$2b6o$3b4o2$2b2o2b2o$2obo2bob2o$3bo2bo3$4b2o$4b2o! This is game of life, this is game of life! Loafin' ships eaten with a knife! towerator Posts: 328 Joined: September 2nd, 2013, 3:03 pm ### Re: is this c/10 spaceship known? 4 copperhead-to-G (one backwards), 1 copperhead-to-2G, 1 copperhead-to-LWSS (forwards), 1 copperhead-to-MWSS (backwards): x = 43, y = 148, rule = LifeHistory22.C$21.C.C3.2C$21.C.C2.C2.C$22.C4.2C3$5.A.2A$4.A6.A$3.2A3.A2.A$2A.A5.2A$2A.A5.2A$3.2A3.A2.A$4.A6.A$5.A.2A2$28.C$27.C.C$27.2C6$5.A.2A$4.A6.A23.2C$3.2A3.A2.A23.2C$2A.A5.2A$2A.A5.2A$3.2A3.A2.A$4.A6.A21.2C$5.A.2A24.C.C$34.C4$29.C$28.C.C$28.C.C$29.C2$5.A.2A28.2C$4.A6.A25.2C$3.2A3.A2.A$2A.A5.2A$2A.A5.2A$3.2A3.A2.A26.2C$4.A6.A26.2C$5.A.2A8$30.3C6$5.A.2A$4.A6.A27.2C$3.2A3.A2.A27.2C$2A.A5.2A$2A.A5.2A$3.2A3.A2.A27.C$4.A6.A26.C.C$5.A.2A30.2C4$34.C$33.C.C$32.C2.C$33.2C7$5.A.2A$4.A6.A$3.2A3.A2.A$2A.A5.2A$2A.A5.2A$3.2A3.A2.A$4.A6.A$5.A.2A3$32.2C$32.2C6$33.2C$33.C.C$34.C4$5.A.2A$4.A6.A$3.2A3.A2.A$2A.A5.2A$2A.A5.2A30.2C$3.2A3.A2.A29.2C$4.A6.A$5.A.2A24.2C$32.C2.C$33.2C3$37.2C$36.C2.C$36.C.C$37.C11$32.2C$32.C.C$33.C3$27.2C$26.C2.C$27.C.C$28.C$5.A.2A$4.A6.A$3.2A3.A2.A$2A.A5.2A$2A.A5.2A29.C$3.2A3.A2.A27.C.C$4.A6.A28.2C$5.A.2A! SoL : FreeElectronics : DeadlyEnemies : 6a-ite : Rule X3VI what is “sesame oil”? Rhombic Posts: 1056 Joined: June 1st, 2013, 5:41 pm ### Re: is this c/10 spaceship known? lwss siderake made of fireships I played continuously on my "fetish" and tried to reduce the size of lwss rakes. I got a vertical rake. First i used a half of a circuit to throw back a glider. To leave the construction compact, the glider had to go back through the hole where it came out. The second circuit is to trim the second glider...The construct has the size of 221 x 404 and comes with 35 fireships. 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Then i found that reflector

x = 23, y = 21, rule = B3/S23$18b3o$8b2ob3o4b3o$5bobo4b3o7bo$5bo2bo4bob2o$5bo2bo4bob2o$5bobo4b3o7bo$8b2ob3o4b3o$18b3o5$13b3o$3b2ob3o4b3o$obo4b3o7bo$o2bo4bob2o9b2o$o2bo4bob2o8b2o$obo4b3o7bo4bo$3b2ob3o4b3o$13b3o!

and could further reduce the quantity of fireships. Now we have 27 fireships and the size of 163 x 420.

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I tried to combine the two methods (the reflector and the half circuit) for further reducing, but i failed by 1 cell. If anyone could adjust that! The last thing i found was, that copperheads has the same speed as corderships in one dimension (c/10). 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Posts: 145 Joined: March 24th, 2016, 2:55 pm Location: Germany ### Re: is this c/10 spaceship known? christoph r. wrote:The last thing i found was, that copperheads has the same speed as corderships in one dimension (c/10). I don't think that's the correct explanation for the pattern shown below. You can see the copperheads go farther to the left than the corderships the longer the pattern runs. There is a reason why this construct works, but it is related to the three ships' velocities and directions (c/2 south, c/10 west, c/12 south-west) in a way that will probably require some modular arithmetic to demonstrate clearly, which hopefully someone else will be able to do here since I can't quite explain it at the moment. Sphenocorona Posts: 480 Joined: April 9th, 2013, 11:03 pm ### Re: is this c/10 spaceship known? Ooh, matching rakes via modular arithmetic is apparently one of my skills so I'll try the explanation. A rake producing LWSS from a c/10 mechanism like you have shown gives an offset of (N, 5N) between consecutive LWSS, since the velocity of the LWSS is 5x that of the rake in an orthogonal direction. For meeting a cordership, we just find out how a descending steam with that offset impacts with a diagonal line. Regardless of what N is, the vertical distance to the line increases by the sum of the offset components, so by 6N each ship. At c/2, it thus takes 12N generations for consecutive ships to cross the cordership's path. The cordership travels (1,1)c/12, so it also takes 12N generations to reach the point where the LWSS impacts, and so their impact parameter is invariant. On a side note, with the deletion mechanism you wired up, that's a great growing spaceship! Physics: sophistication from simplicity. biggiemac Posts: 504 Joined: September 17th, 2014, 12:21 am Location: California, USA ### Re: is this c/10 spaceship known? Thank you for your explanation. Every instruction helps me. To take my structure to extremes. The Cordership can eat 7 more lwss. Now for your amusement, here a realy "great" growing spaceship: x = 2142, y = 2143, rule = 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christoph r. Posts: 145 Joined: March 24th, 2016, 2:55 pm Location: Germany ### Re: is this c/10 spaceship known? I noticed something looking through old Scripts threads: Paul Tooke wrote:In a similar vein, Sokwe wrote: what searches have you completed in the range of p6 to 8? As I'm sure you're probably aware, the answer to this question really belongs in the Online Database of Unsuccessful GFIND Searches topic. I''ll look through my results and post an update there. Hopefully I'll also remember to add a caveat about the need for independent confirmation of negative results. BTW your range is a bit restrictive. I've also done p9 and p11 searches and I'm fairly confident that there is more interesting stuff to be found at c/5 orthogonal. (Emphasis mine.) He was so close to discovering the copperhead! I wonder why he didn't try p10? x₁=ηx V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη) K=(Λu²)/2 Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt) $$x_1=\eta x$$ $$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$ $$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$ $$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$ http://conwaylife.com/wiki/A_for_all Aidan F. Pierce A for awesome Posts: 1877 Joined: September 13th, 2014, 5:36 pm Location: 0x-1 ### Re: is this c/10 spaceship known? A for awesome wrote:I noticed something looking through old Scripts threads... He was so close to discovering the copperhead! I wonder why he didn't try p10? How long ago was this? LifeWiki: Like Wikipedia but with more spaceships. [citation needed] BlinkerSpawn Posts: 1889 Joined: November 8th, 2014, 8:48 pm Location: Getting a snacker from R-Bee's ### Re: is this c/10 spaceship known? BlinkerSpawn wrote: A for awesome wrote:I noticed something looking through old Scripts threads... He was so close to discovering the copperhead! I wonder why he didn't try p10? How long ago was this? July 2012. 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Searching for two copperheads' tagalog is painfully slow.Before "CPU time: 25570.015625 seconds" there are not many promising partials. x = 349, y = 34, rule = B3/S23b2o2b2o5b2o2b2o13b2o2b2o5b2o2b2o13b2o2b2o5b2o2b2o13b2o2b2o5b2o2b2o13b2o2b2o5b2o2b2o13b2o2b2o5b2o2b2o13b2o2b2o5b2o2b2o13b2o2b2o5b2o2b2o13b2o2b2o5b2o2b2o13b2o2b2o5b2o2b2o13b2o2b2o5b2o2b2o13b2o2b2o5b2o2b2o$3b2o9b2o17b2o9b2o17b2o9b2o17b2o9b2o17b2o9b2o17b2o9b2o17b2o9b2o17b2o9b2o17b2o9b2o17b2o9b2o17b2o9b2o17b2o9b2o$3b2o9b2o17b2o9b2o17b2o9b2o17b2o9b2o17b2o9b2o17b2o9b2o17b2o9b2o17b2o9b2o17b2o9b2o17b2o9b2o17b2o9b2o17b2o9b2o$obo2bobo3bobo2bobo11bobo2bobo3bobo2bobo11bobo2bobo3bobo2bobo11bobo2bobo3bobo2bobo11bobo2bobo3bobo2bobo11bobo2bobo3bobo2bobo11bobo2bobo3bobo2bobo11bobo2bobo3bobo2bobo11bobo2bobo3bobo2bobo11bobo2bobo3bobo2bobo11bobo2bobo3bobo2bobo11bobo2bobo3bobo2bobo$o6bo3bo6bo11bo6bo3bo6bo11bo6bo3bo6bo11bo6bo3bo6bo11bo6bo3bo6bo11bo6bo3bo6bo11bo6bo3bo6bo11bo6bo3bo6bo11bo6bo3bo6bo11bo6bo3bo6bo11bo6bo3bo6bo11bo6bo3bo6bo2$o6bo3bo6bo11bo6bo3bo6bo11bo6bo3bo6bo11bo6bo3bo6bo11bo6bo3bo6bo11bo6bo3bo6bo11bo6bo3bo6bo11bo6bo3bo6bo11bo6bo3bo6bo11bo6bo3bo6bo11bo6bo3bo6bo11bo6bo3bo6bo$b2o2b2o5b2o2b2o13b2o2b2o5b2o2b2o13b2o2b2o5b2o2b2o13b2o2b2o5b2o2b2o13b2o2b2o5b2o2b2o13b2o2b2o5b2o2b2o13b2o2b2o5b2o2b2o13b2o2b2o5b2o2b2o13b2o2b2o5b2o2b2o13b2o2b2o5b2o2b2o13b2o2b2o5b2o2b2o13b2o2b2o5b2o2b2o$2b4o7b4o15b4o7b4o15b4o7b4o15b4o7b4o15b4o7b4o15b4o7b4o15b4o7b4o15b4o7b4o15b4o7b4o15b4o7b4o15b4o7b4o15b4o7b4o2$3b2o9b2o17b2o9b2o17b2o9b2o17b2o9b2o17b2o9b2o17b2o9b2o17b2o9b2o17b2o9b2o17b2o9b2o17b2o9b2o17b2o9b2o17b2o9b2o$3b2o9b2o17b2o9b2o17b2o9b2o17b2o9b2o17b2o9b2o17b2o9b2o17b2o9b2o17b2o9b2o17b2o9b2o17b2o9b2o17b2o9b2o17b2o9b2o3$bobo11bobo13b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o14bo13bo15bo13bo15bo13bo15bo13bo15bo13bo15bo13bo15bo13bo15bo13bo15bo13bo15bo13bo$5ob3ob3ob5o12bobo3bo3bo3bobo12b2obo2b3ob3o2bob2o11b2obo2b3ob3o2bob2o11b2obo2b3ob3o2bob2o11b2obo2b3ob3o2bob2o11b2obo2b3ob3o2bob2o11b2obo2b3ob3o2bob2o11b2obo2b3ob3o2bob2o11b2obo2b3ob3o2bob2o11b2obo2b3ob3o2bob2o11b2obo2b3ob3o2bob2o$4bobo5bobo16bob2obo5bob2obo13bob2ob3ob3ob2obo13bob2ob3ob3ob2obo13bob2ob3ob3ob2obo13bob2ob3ob3ob2obo13bob2ob3ob3ob2obo13bob2ob3ob3ob2obo13bob2ob3ob3ob2obo13bob2ob3ob3ob2obo13bob2ob3ob3ob2obo13bob2ob3ob3ob2obo$5b2obobob2o17bobo11bobo20bobo27bobo27bobo27bobo27bobo27bobo27bobo27bobo27bobo27bobo$2bobobobobobobobo15bobob3ob3obobo17bo2b2ob2o2bo19bo2b2ob2o2bo19bo3bobo3bo19bo3bobo3bo19bo3bobo3bo19bo9bo19bo9bo19bo9bo19bo9bo19bo9bo$2bo3b2o3b2o3bo18bo2bobo2bo20b4o3b4o19b4o3b4o18bobo7bobo17bobo7bobo17bobo7bobo18b2obo3bob2o19b2obo3bob2o19b2obo3bob2o19b2obo3bob2o19b2obo3bob2o$5b2o5b2o16b4o4bobo4b4o17b2o3b2o23b2o3b2o23bo5bo23bo5bo23bo5bo20bo11bo17bo11bo17bo11bo19b3o3b3o21b3o3b3o$b3o11b3o12b2o5bo3bo5b2o13b2o3b2ob2o3b2o15bobo2bo3bo2bobo17b3obobob3o19b3obobob3o19b3obobob3o16b3ob3o3b3ob3o13b3ob3o3b3ob3o13b3ob3o3b3ob3o16bobo5bobo19bobo5bobo$6b2o3b2o19bo13bo15bo2bob2ob2obo2bo15b3o3bobo3b3o16bo3b2ob2o3bo17bo3b2ob2o3bo17bo3b2ob2o3bo15b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o13b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o13b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o17b3o3b3o21b3o3b3o$bo2b4o3b4o2bo14bo3b2o3b2o3bo15bo13bo15bobob2o3b2obobo15b2o3bo3bo3b2o15b2o3bo3bo3b2o15b2o3bo3bo3b2o13b3o3b2o3b2o3b3o11b3o3b2o3b2o3b3o11b3o3bobobobo3b3o12b2obob2o3b2obob2o14bobob2o3b2obobo$o2b2o9b2o2bo14bo11bo18b3o5b3o16b2obo9bob2o13bo2bobo5bobo2bo13bo2bo9bo2bo13bo2bo9bo2bo13b2o3bobobobo3b2o14bo3b2o3b2o3bo15bo13bo45bo13bo$4ob3o3b3ob4o13bo2bo7bo2bo19b3ob3o18bo4b2o3b2o4bo13b3o11b3o14bob2o7b2obo15bob2o7b2obo13bobo5bobo5bobo13b2o11b2o15b3o3bobo3b3o44bobobo2bobo2bobobo$31bo3bob2ob2obo3bo13bo15bo13b2o3b3ob3o3b2o13b2o2b2o5b2o2b2o13bo2bo9bo2bo14b2o11b2o14bo6bobo6bo14bob4o3b4obo15bobobo5bobobo44bo3bo7bo3bo$61bob4o5b4obo12b5o3bobo3b5o12bo15bo13b4o9b4o14b6o3b6o21bobo24bo2bobo2bo18bo3bo5bo3bo45bobob3ob3obobo$93bob2obobob2obo14b3obob3ob3obob3o11b2o2bo9bo2b2o12b2o4bo3bo4b2o12b3ob4o3b4ob3o14bo11bo16b4o7b4o48bo2bobo2bo$94bo3bobo3bo15b2o5bo3bo5b2o15b2ob2ob2ob2o17b4o7b4o13b2o3bobo3bobo3b2o15bo3bobo3bo19bob2o3b2obo50b3o3b3o$90b3obo3bobo3bob3o12bobo3bo3bo3bobo12b3obobobobobobob3o15bob3ob3obo16b3ob3o3b3ob3o15b3obo3bob3o15b2o5bobo5b2o43bo3b2o5b2o3bo$154b3obobob3o15b3ob2ob2ob2ob2ob3o11bo3bobo5bobo3bo12b2o4bo3bo4b2o14bobo3bobo3bobo44b3obobo3bobob3o$210b6obo3bob6o12b2o2bo7bo2b2o13b2o5bobo5b2o46bo2bo3bo2bo$270bo5bo5bo5bo44bo4bobo4bo!
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### Re: is this c/10 spaceship known?

Certainly interesting how detached they are. I wonder if such tagalongs could also be attached to fireship traingles...
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### Re: is this c/10 spaceship known?

The search of two fireships' tagalog is even harder.Before"CPU time: 34894.531250 seconds",there is only one partial that worked a bit better:
x = 25, y = 38, rule = B3/S234bo2bo9bo2bo$4bo2bo9bo2bo$3bo4bo7bo4bo$3bo4bo7bo4bo$3bo4bo7bo4bo$3bo4bo7bo4bo$2b3o2b3o5b3o2b3o$2bob4obo5bob4obo$3bo4bo7bo4bo3$5b2o11b2o$5b2o11b2o$5b2o11b2o$3bo4bo7bo4bo$b3o4b3o3b3o4b3o$3o6b3ob3o6b3o$2o8b2ob2o8b2o$b10o3b10o$2b8o5b8o$4b4o9b4o4$4b6o5b6o$3b2o4b2o3b2o4b2o$5b2o2bobobobo2b2o$5bo2bo7bo2bo$6bobo7bobo$5b3o9b3o$6bobo7bobo$9b2o3b2o$5b2o2bo5bo2b2o$4bobob2obobob2obobo$3bo4bo2bobo2bo4bo$6bo2bobobobo2bo$4b2o2bo2bobo2bo2b2o$5b3ob2o3b2ob3o!
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### Re: is this c/10 spaceship known?

On the topic of possible Cop-->X converters, I have listed some reactions here, none of them catalysed (yet). There might be a few ideas lurking in here somewhere, many do look like they could perfectly be catalysed (small reaction bounding box beyond the constellation):
x = 43, y = 148, rule = LifeHistory22.C$21.C.C3.2C$21.C.C2.C2.C$22.C4.2C3$5.A.2A$4.A6.A$3.2A3.A2.A$2A.A5.2A$2A.A5.2A$3.2A3.A2.A$4.A6.A$5.A.2A2$28.C$27.C.C$27.2C6$5.A.2A$4.A6.A23.2C$3.2A3.A2.A23.2C$2A.A5.2A$2A.A5.2A$3.2A3.A2.A$4.A6.A21.2C$5.A.2A24.C.C$34.C4$29.C$28.C.C$28.C.C$29.C2$5.A.2A28.2C$4.A6.A25.2C$3.2A3.A2.A$2A.A5.2A$2A.A5.2A$3.2A3.A2.A26.2C$4.A6.A26.2C$5.A.2A8$30.3C6$5.A.2A$4.A6.A27.2C$3.2A3.A2.A27.2C$2A.A5.2A$2A.A5.2A$3.2A3.A2.A27.C$4.A6.A26.C.C$5.A.2A30.2C4$34.C$33.C.C$32.C2.C$33.2C7$5.A.2A$4.A6.A$3.2A3.A2.A$2A.A5.2A$2A.A5.2A$3.2A3.A2.A$4.A6.A$5.A.2A3$32.2C$32.2C6$33.2C$33.C.C$34.C4$5.A.2A$4.A6.A$3.2A3.A2.A$2A.A5.2A$2A.A5.2A30.2C$3.2A3.A2.A29.2C$4.A6.A$5.A.2A24.2C$32.C2.C$33.2C3$37.2C$36.C2.C$36.C.C$37.C11$32.2C$32.C.C$33.C3$27.2C$26.C2.C$27.C.C$28.C$5.A.2A$4.A6.A$3.2A3.A2.A$2A.A5.2A$2A.A5.2A29.C$3.2A3.A2.A27.C.C$4.A6.A28.2C$5.A.2A!
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### Re: is this c/10 spaceship known?

Rhombic wrote:many do look like they could perfectly be catalysed (small reaction bounding box beyond the constellation)
Not to discourage you, but restoring even one still life bait (by catalysis) is pretty hard and unlikely, not to mention restoring multiple baits. Catalysts involving still life baits don't work that way, but rather tries all possible still life positions and puts many opaque catalysts (which is, many many possibilities to try) to see if a combination happens to restore the still life.
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gameoflifemaniac wrote:I need the glider-to-copperhead, plz.

There isn't one yet, except for the p690 one in the Infinite Conduit, which is really just a suppressed p690 copperhead gun -- much simpler circuitry than a true G-to-copperhead would require.

Still, it's one of the easier constructible spaceships to build a converter for at this point -- only 22 synchronized gliders, and that p690 gun shows one way the inserters could be arranged. The four shotguns are 4, 5, 6, and 7 synchronized gliders, so there's an obvious progression for tackling them... for anyone who wants some practice with building glider-synch circuitry.

Offhand I don't see an easy slow-salvo way to build a copperhead. Looks like at minimum a three-glider seed would have to be built for each side, if there's some junk one of the gliders could crash into to make the required domino spark... and the two three-glider seeds would have to be triggered simultaneously by a two-glider seed. So this is going to come out a lot bigger than the slow-salvo-buildable Cordership seed, let alone the loafer seed.

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### Re: is this c/10 spaceship known?

Before we create a glider-to-copperhead converter, the synthesis could use optimization. The fumarole works, but after that, I kept looking at it and seeing how a 2-glider pre-interchange's evolution looks strikingly similar. Yet, I could never perturb a pre-interchange in quite the right way to replace the fumarole method.
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### Re: is this c/10 spaceship known?

Kazyan wrote:Before we create a glider-to-copperhead converter, the synthesis could use optimization. The fumarole works, but after that, I kept looking at it and seeing how a 2-glider pre-interchange's evolution looks strikingly similar.

Along similar lines, I built a continuous synthesis from the incremental fireship synthesis today, and got to wondering if anyone had looked at improving Nico Brown's 30-glider recipe. Eight more gliders to add two mirror-image R pentominoes very close to the copperhead seems about right, but maybe it could be done with six?

x = 8, y = 16, rule = B3/S23b2o2b2o$3b2o$3b2o$obo2bobo$o6bo2$o6bo$b2o2b2o$2b4o2$3b2o$2bo2bo2$bo4bo$2o4b2o$b2o2b2o!

Full continuous synthesis, 480 ticks repeat time -- can't make it much faster, because fireships are ridiculously bulky and take a long, long time to get out of the way:

x = 398, y = 304, rule = B3/S233bobo284bobo$4b2o279bo4b2o$4bo278b2o6bo$284b2o$23bo$21bobo$3bo18b2o268bo$4bo286bo$2b3o268bo17b3o$271b2o$272b2o5$21bobo248bobo$22b2o248b2o$22bo250bo103$123bobo44bobo$124b2o39bo4b2o$124bo38b2o6bo$164b2o$143bo$141bobo139bo$123bo18b2o28bo110bobo71bobo32bobo$124bo46bo111b2o73b2o32b2o$122b3o28bo17b3o94bobo87bo34bo$151b2o111bo4b2o$152b2o110b2o3bo$263bobo$271bo85bo36bo$137b2o132bobo84bo34bo$136bobo132b2o83b3o34b3o$138bo2bobo8bobo46bobo8bobo$142b2o8b2o48b2o8b2o$142bo10bo48bo10bo78b2o2b2o15b2o2b2o14b2o2b2o34b2o2b2o$292b2o2b2o15b2o2b2o14b2o2b2o34b2o2b2o3$237b2o4b2o22b2o4b2o16b2o4b2o13b2o4b2o12b2o4b2o32b2o4b2o$145b2o2b2o54b2o2b2o26bobo2bobo22bobo2bobo16bobo2bobo13bobo2bobo12bobo2bobo32bobo2bobo$144bobo2bobo52bobo2bobo27bo2bo26bo2bo20bo2bo17bo2bo16bo2bo36bo2bo$146bo2bo56bo2bo28bo4bo24bo4bo18bo4bo15bo4bo14bo4bo34bo4bo$238bo4bo24bo4bo18bo4bo15bo4bo14bo4bo34bo4bo$238bo4bo24bo4bo18bo4bo15bo4bo14bo4bo34bo4bo$240b2o28b2o22b2o19b2o18b2o38b2o3$240b2o$142b3o6b3o48b3o6b3o26b2o$144bo6bo52bo6bo$143bo8bo50bo8bo57b2o22b2o19b2o18b2o38b2o$270b2o22b2o19b2o18b2o20b2o16b2o16b2o$356bobo34bobo$318b2o12b2o4b2o18bo13b2o4b2o13bo$144b3o170bo2bo10bo2bo2bo2bo30bo2bo2bo2bo$146bo89b3o60b2o9b2o6b2o12b2o4b2o32b2o4b2o$145bo10bo81bo60bobo7bobo$123b2o30b2o14b2o64bo12bo48bo11bo49bo13b2o13bo$122bobo30bobo13bobo75b2o43b2o19b2o44b2o12b2o12b2o$124bo46bo77bobo41bobo19bobo19b2o15b3o3bobo26bobo3b3o$295bo19bo21bobo16bo38bo$158b2o177bo17bo40bo$157b2o172b2o$127bo31bo8bo161bobo$127b2o12b2o24b2o163bo$120b3o3bobo13b2o23bobo3b3o$122bo8b3o7bo31bo$121bo11bo40bo$132bo$157b3o$157bo$158bo$161b3o195b2o30b2o$161bo198b2o28b2o$162bo196bo32bo$130b3o$132bo$131bo$125b2o42b2o$126b2o40b2o$125bo44bo70$17b2o$16bobo$18bo7$25b2o242b2o$24bobo242bobo$26bo242bo7$22b3o246b3o$24bo246bo$23bo248bo4$24b3o$26bo$25bo250bo$3b2o270b2o14b2o$2bobo270bobo13bobo$4bo286bo2$278b2o$277b2o$7bo271bo8bo$7b2o12b2o264b2o$3o3bobo13b2o263bobo3b3o$2bo8b3o7bo271bo$bo11bo280bo$12bo$277b3o$277bo$278bo$281b3o$281bo$282bo$10b3o$12bo$11bo$5b2o282b2o$6b2o280b2o$5bo284bo!

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