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(34,7)c/156 caterpillar

Postby muzik » July 6th, 2016, 3:57 am

This was listed on the wiki's list of climbers, but it didn't have an actual thread for itself yet, so I decided to create one. Seeing as all the discussion for this was taking place on a thread for searching for fuses and I kind of didn't want to bump it.

Sphenocorona wrote:Okay, now THIS is a really promising one. It's reminiscent of the fuse in the 31c/240 thread, but it behaves in a significantly different manner. The Herschel itself moves at (34,7)c/156, climbing either blocks or gliders and leaving two blocks and a hive in its trail - plus two gliders:
x = 303, y = 60, rule = B3/S23
302bo$301b2o$300b2o$301b2o6$238b2o$238b2o6$204b2o$204b2o6$170b2o$170b
2o6$136b2o$136b2o104b2o$241bobo$243bo4$102b2o$102b2o6$68b2o$68b2o6$34b
2o$34b2o6$2o$2o!
The extra beehive and block can be cleaned up with just one glider coming from the bottom even once it's stabilized (only one lane can do this), but from above is a rather more difficult situation. It should be possible with multiple mutually stabilizing lanes, but I've been trying to get it with just 3 for hours and have had no luck. It is still possible, however, that I may have missed something.

dvgrn wrote:I just looked independently at getting a clean rephaser reaction on just three trails -- accidentally, because I was trying to clean up one that I posted in the Blockic Splitters thread in April last year, and didn't realize it was the same one at first! I didn't see a way to line up the two available internal gliders to shoot down both the beehive and the block from the difficult side. But I also may have missed something.

Anyway, with four trails there's definitely hope:

x = 1075, y = 2584, rule = B3/S23
2o$2o33$7b2o$7b2o33$14b2o$14b2o33$21b2o$21b2o33$28b2o$28b2o23$162b2o$
162b2o9$35b2o$35b2o23$169b2o$169b2o9$42b2o$42b2o23$176b2o$176b2o9$49b
2o$49b2o23$183b2o$183b2o9$56b2o$56b2o23$190b2o$190b2o9$63b2o$63b2o6$
317b2o$317b2o16$197b2o$197b2o9$70b2o$70b2o6$324b2o$324b2o16$204b2o$
204b2o9$77b2o$77b2o6$331b2o$331b2o16$211b2o$211b2o9$84b2o$84b2o6$338b
2o$338b2o16$218b2o$218b2o9$91b2o$91b2o6$345b2o$345b2o16$225b2o$225b2o
7$453b2o$453b2o$98b2o$98b2o6$352b2o$352b2o16$232b2o$232b2o7$460b2o$
460b2o$105b2o$105b2o6$359b2o$359b2o16$239b2o$239b2o7$467b2o$467b2o$
112b2o$112b2o6$366b2o$366b2o16$246b2o$246b2o7$474b2o$474b2o$119b2o$
119b2o6$373b2o$373b2o16$253b2o$253b2o7$481b2o$481b2o$126b2o$126b2o6$
380b2o$380b2o16$260b2o$260b2o7$488b2o$488b2o$133b2o$133b2o6$387b2o$
387b2o16$267b2o$267b2o7$495b2o$495b2o$140b2o$140b2o6$394b2o$394b2o16$
274b2o$274b2o7$502b2o$502b2o$147b2o$147b2o6$401b2o$401b2o16$281b2o$
281b2o7$509b2o$509b2o$154b2o$154b2o6$408b2o$408b2o16$288b2o$288b2o7$
516b2o$516b2o$161b2o$161b2o6$415b2o$415b2o16$295b2o$295b2o7$523b2o$
523b2o$168b2o$168b2o6$422b2o$422b2o16$302b2o$302b2o7$530b2o$530b2o$
175b2o$175b2o6$429b2o$429b2o16$309b2o$309b2o7$537b2o$537b2o$182b2o$
182b2o6$436b2o$436b2o16$316b2o$316b2o7$544b2o$544b2o$189b2o$189b2o6$
443b2o$443b2o16$323b2o$323b2o7$551b2o$551b2o$196b2o$196b2o6$450b2o$
450b2o16$330b2o$330b2o7$558b2o$558b2o$203b2o$203b2o6$457b2o$457b2o16$
337b2o$337b2o7$565b2o$565b2o$210b2o$210b2o6$464b2o$464b2o16$344b2o$
344b2o7$572b2o$572b2o$217b2o$217b2o6$471b2o$471b2o16$351b2o$351b2o7$
579b2o$579b2o$224b2o$224b2o6$478b2o$478b2o16$358b2o$358b2o7$586b2o$
586b2o$231b2o$231b2o6$485b2o$485b2o16$365b2o$365b2o7$593b2o$593b2o$
238b2o$238b2o6$492b2o$492b2o16$372b2o$372b2o7$600b2o$600b2o$245b2o$
245b2o6$499b2o$499b2o16$379b2o$379b2o7$607b2o$607b2o$252b2o$252b2o6$
506b2o$506b2o16$386b2o$386b2o7$614b2o$614b2o$259b2o$259b2o6$513b2o$
513b2o16$393b2o$393b2o7$621b2o$621b2o$266b2o$266b2o6$520b2o$520b2o16$
400b2o$400b2o7$628b2o$628b2o$273b2o$273b2o6$527b2o$527b2o16$407b2o$
407b2o7$635b2o$635b2o$280b2o$280b2o6$534b2o$534b2o16$414b2o$414b2o7$
642b2o$642b2o$287b2o$287b2o6$541b2o$541b2o8$286bobo$285bo4bo$285bo4bo$
285b2o2$285b2o2b2o$285b2o2b2o$285b3obo$286bo134b2o$287bo133b2o7$288b2o
359b2o$288b2o359b2o7$286bo$285bobo260b2o$285bobo260b2o$286bo10$287b2o$
287b2o4$428b2o$428b2o7$251bo43b2o359b2o$251bobo41b2o359b2o$251b2o6$
293bo$292bobo260b2o$292bobo260b2o$293bo10$294b2o$294b2o3$329bobo$330b
2o103b2o$330bo104b2o7$302b2o359b2o$302b2o359b2o7$300bo$299bobo260b2o$
299bobo260b2o$300bo10$301b2o$301b2o4$442b2o$442b2o7$309b2o359b2o$309b
2o359b2o4$219bo$219bobo$219b2o$307bo$306bobo260b2o$306bobo260b2o$307bo
10$308b2o$308b2o4$449b2o$449b2o3$375bobo$376b2o$376bo2$316b2o359b2o$
316b2o359b2o7$314bo$313bobo260b2o$313bobo260b2o$314bo10$315b2o$315b2o
4$456b2o$456b2o7$323b2o359b2o$323b2o359b2o7$321bo133bobo$320bobo131bo
4bo123b2o$187bo132bobo131bo4bo123b2o$187bobo131bo132b2o$187b2o$454b2o
2b2o$454b2o2b2o$454b3obo$455bo$456bo4$322b2o$322b2o2$457b2o$457b2o7$
455bo$454bobo$330b2o122bobo234b2o$330b2o89bobo31bo235b2o$422b2o$422bo
5$328bo$327bobo260b2o$327bobo260b2o$328bo127b2o$456b2o9$329b2o$329b2o
2$420bo43b2o$420bobo41b2o$420b2o6$462bo$461bobo$337b2o122bobo234b2o$
337b2o123bo235b2o7$335bo$334bobo260b2o$334bobo260b2o$335bo127b2o$463b
2o3$155bo342bobo$155bobo341b2o$155b2o342bo4$336b2o$336b2o2$471b2o$471b
2o7$469bo$468bobo$344b2o122bobo234b2o$344b2o123bo235b2o5$467bobo$468b
2o$342bo125bo$341bobo260b2o$341bobo260b2o$342bo127b2o$470b2o9$343b2o$
343b2o2$478b2o$478b2o4$388bo$388bobo$388b2o3$351b2o359b2o$351b2o359b2o
7$349bo$348bobo260b2o$348bobo260b2o$349bo9$123bo420bobo$123bobo224b2o
193b2o$123b2o225b2o193bo2$485b2o$485b2o9$358b2o359b2o$358b2o359b2o7$
356bo$355bobo260b2o$355bobo260b2o$356bo10$357b2o$357b2o2$492b2o$492b2o
123bobo$616bo4bo$616bo4bo$616b2o2$616b2o2b2o$616b2o2b2o$616b3obo$617bo
$356bo8b2o251bo107b2o$356bobo6b2o359b2o$356b2o5$619b2o$363bo255b2o$
362bobo$362bobo$363bo4$617bo$616bobo$616bobo$617bo3$364b2o$364b2o2$
499b2o$91bo407b2o89bobo$91bobo497b2o$91b2o498bo$618b2o$618b2o5$372b2o
359b2o$372b2o359b2o6$582bo43b2o$370bo211bobo41b2o$369bobo210b2o$369bob
o$370bo4$624bo$623bobo$623bobo$624bo3$371b2o$371b2o2$506b2o$506b2o3$
625b2o$625b2o3$660bobo$661b2o$379b2o280bo78b2o$379b2o359b2o4$324bo$
324bobo$324b2o307b2o$377bo255b2o$376bobo$376bobo$377bo4$631bo$630bobo$
630bobo$631bo$631b2o$631b2o$378b2o251b2o$378b2o251bo2$513b2o$513b2o9$
386b2o359b2o$386b2o359b2o6$640b2o$384bo255b2o$383bobo$383bobo$384bo$
550bo$550bobo$550b2o7$385b2o$385b2o2$520b2o$520b2o9$393b2o359b2o$393b
2o359b2o2$706bobo$707b2o$707bo2$647b2o$391bo255b2o$390bobo$292bo97bobo
$292bobo96bo$292b2o4$753bobo$752bo4bo$752bo4bo$752b2o2$392b2o358b2o2b
2o$392b2o358b2o2b2o$752b3obo$527b2o224bo$527b2o225bo7$755b2o$755b2o$
400b2o$400b2o5$753bo$654b2o96bobo$398bo255b2o96bobo$397bobo353bo$397bo
bo$398bo6$518bo$518bobo$518b2o234b2o$754b2o$399b2o$399b2o2$534b2o$534b
2o7$718bo43b2o$718bobo41b2o$407b2o309b2o$407b2o5$760bo$661b2o96bobo$
405bo255b2o89bobo4bobo$404bobo346b2o5bo$404bobo346bo$405bo4$260bo$260b
obo$260b2o2$761b2o$761b2o$406b2o$406b2o$796bobo$541b2o254b2o$541b2o
254bo7$769b2o$769b2o$414b2o$414b2o6$668b2o$412bo255b2o$411bobo$411bobo
$412bo10$413b2o$413b2o71bo$486bobo$486b2o60b2o$548b2o7$776b2o$776b2o$
421b2o$421b2o2$686bo$686bobo$686b2o2$675b2o$419bo255b2o$418bobo$418bob
o$419bo9$228bo$228bobo189b2o$228b2o190b2o2$555b2o$555b2o3$842bobo$843b
2o$843bo2$783b2o$783b2o$428b2o$428b2o6$682b2o$426bo255b2o$425bobo$425b
obo$426bo10$427b2o$427b2o2$562b2o$562b2o2$454bo$454bobo$454b2o3$790b2o
$790b2o$435b2o$435b2o6$689b2o$433bo220bo34b2o$432bobo219bobo$432bobo
219b2o$433bo10$434b2o$434b2o2$569b2o$196bo372b2o$196bobo$196b2o6$888bo
bo$442b2o445b2o$442b2o445bo6$696b2o$696b2o13$441b2o$441b2o2$576b2o$
576b2o9$449b2o$449b2o6$703b2o$703b2o5$622bo$622bobo$622b2o6$448b2o$
448b2o2$583b2o$583b2o5$164bo$164bobo$164b2o2$456b2o$456b2o3$934bobo$
935b2o$935bo15$455b2o$455b2o2$590b2o$590b2o9$463b2o$463b2o17$590bo$
590bobo$590b2o$462b2o$462b2o2$597b2o$597b2o9$470b2o$470b2o8$980bobo$
981b2o$981bo10$469b2o$469b2o2$604b2o$604b2o9$477b2o$477b2o20$476b2o$
476b2o$558bo$558bobo50b2o$558b2o51b2o9$484b2o$484b2o13$1026bobo$1027b
2o$1027bo5$483b2o$483b2o2$618b2o$618b2o9$491b2o$491b2o20$490b2o$490b2o
6$526bo$526bobo$526b2o4$498b2o$498b2o18$1072bobo$1073b2o$497b2o574bo$
497b2o12$505b2o$505b2o33$512b2o$512b2o33$519b2o$519b2o33$526b2o$526b2o!

There are a lot of ways to change the relative timings of the Herschels, so maybe it's possible to suppress one of the two backrake streams on the left somehow. There's at least one way to get a forward stream by kicking the right-hand stream forward:

x = 1769, y = 2889, rule = B3/S23
188$302b2o$302b2o33$309b2o$309b2o33$316b2o$316b2o33$323b2o$323b2o33$
330b2o$330b2o23$464b2o$464b2o9$337b2o$337b2o23$471b2o$471b2o9$344b2o$
344b2o23$478b2o$478b2o9$351b2o$351b2o23$485b2o$485b2o9$358b2o$358b2o
23$492b2o$492b2o9$365b2o$365b2o6$619b2o$619b2o16$499b2o$499b2o9$372b2o
$372b2o6$626b2o$626b2o16$506b2o$506b2o9$379b2o$379b2o6$633b2o$633b2o
16$513b2o$513b2o9$386b2o$386b2o6$640b2o$640b2o16$520b2o$520b2o9$393b2o
$393b2o6$647b2o$647b2o16$527b2o$527b2o7$755b2o$755b2o$400b2o$400b2o6$
654b2o$654b2o16$534b2o$534b2o7$762b2o$762b2o$407b2o$407b2o6$661b2o$
661b2o16$541b2o$541b2o7$769b2o$769b2o$414b2o$414b2o6$668b2o$668b2o16$
548b2o$548b2o7$776b2o$776b2o$421b2o$421b2o6$675b2o$675b2o16$555b2o$
555b2o7$783b2o$783b2o$428b2o$428b2o6$682b2o$682b2o16$562b2o$562b2o7$
790b2o$790b2o$435b2o$435b2o6$689b2o$689b2o16$569b2o$569b2o7$797b2o$
797b2o$442b2o$442b2o6$696b2o$696b2o16$576b2o$576b2o7$804b2o$804b2o$
449b2o$449b2o6$703b2o$703b2o16$583b2o$583b2o7$811b2o$811b2o$456b2o$
456b2o6$710b2o$710b2o16$590b2o$590b2o7$818b2o$818b2o$463b2o$463b2o6$
717b2o$717b2o16$597b2o$597b2o7$825b2o$825b2o$470b2o$470b2o6$724b2o$
724b2o16$604b2o$604b2o7$832b2o$832b2o$477b2o$477b2o6$731b2o$731b2o16$
611b2o$611b2o7$839b2o$839b2o$484b2o$484b2o6$738b2o$738b2o16$618b2o$
618b2o7$846b2o$846b2o$491b2o$491b2o6$745b2o$745b2o16$625b2o$625b2o7$
853b2o$853b2o$498b2o$498b2o6$752b2o$752b2o16$632b2o$632b2o7$860b2o$
860b2o$505b2o$505b2o6$759b2o$759b2o16$639b2o$639b2o7$867b2o$867b2o$
512b2o$512b2o6$766b2o$766b2o16$646b2o$646b2o7$874b2o$874b2o$519b2o$
519b2o6$773b2o$773b2o16$653b2o$653b2o7$881b2o$881b2o$526b2o$526b2o6$
780b2o$780b2o16$660b2o$660b2o7$888b2o$888b2o$533b2o$533b2o6$787b2o$
787b2o16$667b2o$667b2o7$895b2o$895b2o$540b2o$540b2o6$794b2o$794b2o16$
674b2o$674b2o7$902b2o$902b2o$547b2o$547b2o6$801b2o$801b2o12$547b3o2$
547bobo$546bo$546bo3bo130b2o$681b2o$546b2o2bo6$548b2o359b2o$548b2o359b
2o7$546bo$545bobo260b2o$545bobo260b2o$546bo10$547b2o$547b2o4$688b2o$
688b2o3$515bo$514bo$514b3o2$555b2o359b2o$555b2o359b2o7$553bo$552bobo
260b2o$552bobo260b2o$553bo10$554b2o30bo$554b2o31b2o$586b2o3$695b2o$
695b2o7$562b2o359b2o$562b2o359b2o7$560bo$559bobo260b2o$559bobo260b2o$
560bo10$561b2o$561b2o4$702b2o$702b2o7$569b2o359b2o$483bo85b2o359b2o$
482bo$482b3o5$567bo$566bobo260b2o$566bobo260b2o$567bo10$568b2o$568b2o
4$632bo76b2o$633b2o74b2o$632b2o6$576b2o359b2o$576b2o359b2o7$574bo$573b
obo260b2o$573bobo260b2o$574bo10$575b2o$575b2o4$716b2o$716b2o7$583b2o
359b2o$583b2o359b2o5$451bo$450bo$450b3o128bo$580bobo260b2o$580bobo260b
2o$581bo$716b3o2$716bobo$715bo$715bo3bo2$715b2o2bo3$582b2o$582b2o2$
717b2o$717b2o6$678bo$679b2o34bo$678b2o34bobo$590b2o122bobo234b2o$590b
2o123bo235b2o7$588bo$587bobo260b2o$587bobo260b2o$588bo127b2o$716b2o8$
684bo$589b2o92bo$589b2o92b3o2$724b2o$724b2o7$722bo$721bobo$597b2o122bo
bo234b2o$597b2o123bo235b2o7$595bo$594bobo260b2o$594bobo260b2o$595bo
127b2o30bo$723b2o31b2o$755b2o8$596b2o$596b2o2$731b2o$731b2o7$729bo$
728bobo$604b2o122bobo234b2o$604b2o123bo235b2o$724bo$725b2o$724b2o4$
602bo$601bobo260b2o$601bobo260b2o$602bo127b2o$730b2o9$603b2o$603b2o2$
738b2o$652bo85b2o$651bo$651b3o7$611b2o359b2o$611b2o359b2o2$1756bo$
1755bo$1755b3o3$609bo$608bobo260b2o$608bobo260b2o$609bo5$801bo$802b2o$
801b2o3$610b2o$610b2o2$745b2o$745b2o9$618b2o359b2o$618b2o359b2o7$616bo
$615bobo260b2o$615bobo260b2o$616bo10$617b2o$617b2o2$752b2o$752b2o4$
878b3o$620bo$619bo258bobo$619b3o255bo$877bo3bo$625b2o359b2o$625b2o250b
2o2bo104b2o6$879b2o$623bo255b2o843bo$622bobo1098bo$622bobo1098b3o$623b
o4$877bo$876bobo$876bobo$877bo3$624b2o221bo$624b2o222b2o$847b2o$759b2o
$759b2o3$878b2o$878b2o5$632b2o359b2o$632b2o359b2o2$846bo$845bo$845b3o
2$886b2o$630bo255b2o$629bobo$629bobo$630bo4$884bo$883bobo$883bobo$884b
o3$631b2o$631b2o2$766b2o$766b2o3$885b2o30bo$885b2o31b2o$917b2o4$639b2o
359b2o$588bo50b2o359b2o$587bo$587b3o4$893b2o$637bo255b2o$636bobo$636bo
bo$637bo2$1692bo$1691bo$891bo799b3o$890bobo$890bobo$891bo3$638b2o$638b
2o2$773b2o115bo$773b2o114bo2bo$892b2o$890bo3bo$890bo2bo$891b2o5$646b2o
359b2o$646b2o359b2o6$900b2o$644bo169bo85b2o$643bobo167bo$643bobo167b3o
$644bo10$645b2o$645b2o2$780b2o$780b2o8$963bo$653b2o309b2o48b2o$653b2o
308b2o49b2o5$556bo$555bo351b2o$555b3o93bo255b2o$650bobo$650bobo$651bo
7$1660bo$1659bo$1014b3o642b3o$652b2o$652b2o360bobo$1013bo$787b2o224bo
3bo$787b2o$1013b2o2bo6$1015b2o$1015b2o$660b2o$660b2o5$1013bo$914b2o96b
obo$658bo255b2o96bobo$657bobo353bo$657bobo$658bo2$782bo$781bo$781b3o4$
1014b2o$1014b2o$659b2o$659b2o2$794b2o$794b2o3$982bo$981bo$981b3o2$
1022b2o$1022b2o$667b2o$667b2o3$1009bo$1010b2o$1009b2o9bo$921b2o96bobo$
665bo255b2o96bobo$664bobo353bo$664bobo$524bo140bo$523bo$523b3o6$1021b
2o30bo$1021b2o31b2o$666b2o385b2o$666b2o$1628bo$801b2o824bo$801b2o824b
3o7$1029b2o$1029b2o$674b2o$674b2o6$928b2o$672bo255b2o$671bobo$671bobo$
672bo7$750bo$749bo$749b3o$673b2o$673b2o2$808b2o$808b2o7$1036b2o$950bo
85b2o$681b2o266bo$681b2o266b3o6$935b2o$679bo255b2o$678bobo$678bobo$
679bo10$680b2o$680b2o2$815b2o282bo$815b2o283b2o$1099b2o2$1596bo$1595bo
$1595b3o2$1043b2o$1043b2o$688b2o$688b2o6$942b2o$686bo255b2o$685bobo$
685bobo$686bo10$687b2o$687b2o$718bo$717bo104b2o$717b3o102b2o7$1050b2o$
1050b2o$695b2o$695b2o3$918bo$917bo$917b3o$949b2o$693bo255b2o$692bobo$
692bobo$693bo10$694b2o$694b2o2$829b2o$829b2o4$1145bo$1146b2o$1145b2o$
1057b2o$1057b2o505bo$702b2o859bo$702b2o859b3o6$956b2o$956b2o13$701b2o$
701b2o2$836b2o$836b2o7$1064b2o$1064b2o$709b2o$709b2o6$963b2o$963b2o$
886bo$885bo$885b3o10$708b2o$708b2o2$843b2o$843b2o7$1071b2o$1071b2o$
716b2o473bo$716b2o474b2o$1191b2o2$1532bo$1531bo$1531b3o$970b2o$970b2o
13$715b2o$715b2o2$850b2o$850b2o7$1078b2o$1078b2o$723b2o$723b2o6$977b2o
$977b2o6$854bo$853bo$853b3o5$722b2o$722b2o2$857b2o$857b2o7$1085b2o$
1085b2o$730b2o$730b2o4$1237bo$1238b2o$984b2o251b2o$984b2o$1500bo$1499b
o$1499b3o10$729b2o$729b2o2$864b2o$864b2o7$1092b2o$1092b2o$737b2o$737b
2o6$991b2o$991b2o11$822bo$821bo$736b2o83b3o$736b2o2$871b2o$871b2o7$
1099b2o$1099b2o$744b2o$744b2o6$998b2o$998b2o2$1283bo$1284b2o$1283b2o2$
1468bo$1467bo$1467b3o5$743b2o$743b2o2$878b2o$878b2o7$1106b2o$1106b2o$
751b2o$751b2o6$1005b2o$1005b2o13$750b2o$750b2o2$790bo94b2o$789bo95b2o$
789b3o6$1113b2o$1113b2o$758b2o$758b2o6$1012b2o$1012b2o6$733b2o$732b2o
595bo$734bo595b2o$1329b2o2$765b2o669bo$764b2o669bo$757b2o7bo668b3o$
757b2o2$797b2o93b2o$796b2o94b2o$798bo3$829b2o$828b2o$830bo$1120b2o$
1120b2o$765b2o94b2o$765b2o93b2o$862bo3$893b2o$892b2o$894bo124b2o$1019b
2o2$925b2o$924b2o$926bo3$957b2o$956b2o$958bo3$989b2o$988b2o$990bo2$
899b2o$899b2o120b2o$1020b2o$1022bo3$1053b2o$1052b2o$1054bo72b2o$1127b
2o$772b2o$772b2o311b2o$1084b2o$1086bo3$1117b2o$1026b2o88b2o$1026b2o90b
o3$1149b2o$1148b2o$1150bo3$1181b2o$1180b2o$1182bo2$1375bo$1213b2o161b
2o$1212b2o161b2o$1214bo$906b2o496bo$906b2o495bo$1245b2o156b3o$1244b2o$
1246bo3$1277b2o$1134b2o140b2o$1134b2o142bo$779b2o$779b2o$1309b2o$1308b
2o$1310bo3$1033b2o306b2o$1033b2o305b2o$1342bo3$1373b2o$1372b2o$1374bo
10$913b2o$913b2o7$1141b2o$1141b2o$786b2o$786b2o6$1040b2o$1040b2o16$
920b2o$920b2o9$793b2o$793b2o33$800b2o$800b2o33$807b2o$807b2o33$814b2o$
814b2o33$821b2o$821b2o33$828b2o$828b2o!

It's nice that this reaction can climb gliders as well as blocks -- I didn't know that, so didn't try to do anything with it in my three-trail cleanup attempt.

dvgrn wrote:Eight trails seems a little excessive, but maybe it's at least worth looking at:

x = 2485, y = 4050, rule = B3/S23
3b2o$3b2o867b2o$872b2o22$137b2o$137b2o867b2o$1006b2o8$10b2o$10b2o867b
2o$879b2o5$264b2o$264b2o867b2o$1133b2o15$144b2o$144b2o867b2o$1013b2o6$
372b2o$372b2o867b2o$17b2o1222b2o$17b2o867b2o$886b2o5$271b2o$271b2o867b
2o$1140b2o15$151b2o$151b2o867b2o$1020b2o6$379b2o$379b2o867b2o$24b2o
1222b2o$24b2o867b2o$893b2o5$278b2o$278b2o867b2o$1147b2o15$158b2o$158b
2o867b2o$1027b2o6$386b2o$386b2o867b2o$31b2o1222b2o$31b2o867b2o$900b2o
5$285b2o$285b2o867b2o$1154b2o15$165b2o$165b2o867b2o$1034b2o6$393b2o$
393b2o867b2o$38b2o1222b2o$38b2o867b2o$907b2o5$292b2o$292b2o867b2o$
1161b2o15$172b2o$172b2o867b2o$1041b2o6$400b2o$400b2o867b2o$45b2o1222b
2o$45b2o867b2o$914b2o5$299b2o$299b2o867b2o$1168b2o15$179b2o$179b2o867b
2o$1048b2o6$407b2o$407b2o867b2o$52b2o1222b2o$52b2o867b2o$921b2o5$306b
2o$306b2o867b2o$1175b2o15$186b2o$186b2o867b2o$1055b2o6$414b2o$414b2o
867b2o$59b2o1222b2o$59b2o867b2o$928b2o5$313b2o$313b2o867b2o$1182b2o15$
193b2o$193b2o867b2o$1062b2o6$421b2o$421b2o867b2o$66b2o1222b2o$66b2o
867b2o$935b2o5$320b2o$320b2o867b2o$1189b2o15$200b2o$200b2o867b2o$1069b
2o6$428b2o$428b2o867b2o$73b2o1222b2o$73b2o867b2o$942b2o5$327b2o$327b2o
867b2o$1196b2o15$207b2o$207b2o867b2o$1076b2o6$435b2o$435b2o867b2o$80b
2o1222b2o$80b2o867b2o$949b2o5$334b2o$334b2o867b2o$1203b2o15$214b2o$
214b2o867b2o$1083b2o6$442b2o$442b2o867b2o$87b2o1222b2o$87b2o867b2o$
956b2o5$341b2o$341b2o867b2o$1210b2o15$221b2o$221b2o867b2o$1090b2o6$
449b2o$449b2o867b2o$94b2o1222b2o$94b2o867b2o$963b2o5$348b2o$348b2o867b
2o$1217b2o15$228b2o$228b2o867b2o$1097b2o6$456b2o$456b2o867b2o$101b2o
1222b2o$101b2o867b2o$970b2o5$355b2o$355b2o867b2o$1224b2o15$235b2o$235b
2o867b2o$1104b2o6$463b2o$463b2o867b2o$108b2o1222b2o$108b2o867b2o$977b
2o5$362b2o$362b2o867b2o$1231b2o15$242b2o$242b2o867b2o$1111b2o6$470b2o$
470b2o867b2o$115b2o1222b2o$115b2o867b2o$984b2o5$369b2o$369b2o867b2o$
1238b2o15$249b2o$249b2o867b2o$1118b2o6$477b2o$477b2o867b2o$122b2o1222b
2o$122b2o867b2o$991b2o5$376b2o$376b2o867b2o$1245b2o15$256b2o$256b2o
867b2o$1125b2o6$484b2o$484b2o867b2o$129b2o1222b2o$129b2o867b2o$998b2o
5$383b2o$383b2o867b2o$1252b2o15$263b2o$263b2o867b2o$1132b2o6$491b2o$
491b2o867b2o$136b2o1222b2o$136b2o867b2o$1005b2o5$390b2o$390b2o867b2o$
1259b2o15$270b2o$270b2o867b2o$1139b2o6$498b2o$498b2o867b2o$143b2o1222b
2o$143b2o867b2o$1012b2o5$397b2o$397b2o867b2o$1266b2o15$277b2o$277b2o
867b2o$1146b2o6$505b2o$505b2o867b2o$150b2o1222b2o$150b2o867b2o$1019b2o
5$404b2o$404b2o867b2o$1273b2o15$284b2o$284b2o867b2o$1153b2o6$512b2o$
512b2o867b2o$157b2o1222b2o$157b2o867b2o$1026b2o5$411b2o$411b2o867b2o$
1280b2o15$291b2o$291b2o867b2o$1160b2o6$519b2o$519b2o867b2o$164b2o1222b
2o$164b2o867b2o$1033b2o5$418b2o$418b2o867b2o$1287b2o15$298b2o$298b2o
867b2o$1167b2o6$526b2o$526b2o867b2o$171b2o1222b2o$171b2o867b2o$1040b2o
5$425b2o$425b2o867b2o$1294b2o15$305b2o$305b2o867b2o$1174b2o6$533b2o$
533b2o867b2o$178b2o1222b2o$178b2o867b2o$1047b2o5$432b2o$432b2o867b2o$
1301b2o15$312b2o$312b2o867b2o$1181b2o6$540b2o$540b2o867b2o$185b2o1222b
2o$185b2o867b2o$1054b2o5$439b2o$439b2o867b2o$1308b2o15$319b2o$319b2o
867b2o$1188b2o6$547b2o$547b2o867b2o$192b2o1222b2o$192b2o867b2o$1061b2o
5$446b2o$446b2o867b2o$1315b2o15$326b2o$326b2o867b2o$1195b2o6$554b2o$
554b2o867b2o$199b2o1222b2o$199b2o867b2o$1068b2o5$453b2o$453b2o867b2o$
1322b2o15$333b2o$333b2o867b2o$1202b2o6$561b2o$561b2o867b2o$206b2o1222b
2o$206b2o867b2o$1075b2o5$460b2o$460b2o867b2o$1329b2o15$340b2o$340b2o
867b2o$1209b2o6$568b2o$568b2o867b2o$213b2o1222b2o$213b2o867b2o$1082b2o
5$467b2o$467b2o867b2o$1336b2o15$347b2o$347b2o867b2o$1216b2o6$575b2o$
575b2o867b2o$220b2o1222b2o$220b2o867b2o$1089b2o5$474b2o$474b2o867b2o$
1343b2o15$354b2o$354b2o867b2o$1223b2o6$582b2o$582b2o867b2o$227b2o1222b
2o$227b2o867b2o$1096b2o5$481b2o$481b2o867b2o$1350b2o15$361b2o$361b2o
867b2o$1230b2o6$589b2o$589b2o867b2o$234b2o1222b2o$234b2o867b2o$1103b2o
5$488b2o$488b2o867b2o$1357b2o15$368b2o$368b2o867b2o$1237b2o6$596b2o$
596b2o867b2o$241b2o1222b2o$241b2o867b2o$1110b2o5$495b2o$495b2o867b2o$
1364b2o15$375b2o$375b2o867b2o$1244b2o6$603b2o$603b2o867b2o$248b2o1222b
2o$248b2o867b2o$1117b2o5$502b2o$502b2o867b2o$1371b2o15$382b2o$382b2o
867b2o$1251b2o6$610b2o$610b2o867b2o$255b2o1222b2o$255b2o867b2o$1124b2o
5$509b2o$509b2o867b2o$1378b2o15$389b2o$389b2o867b2o$1258b2o6$617b2o$
617b2o867b2o$262b2o1222b2o$262b2o867b2o$1131b2o5$516b2o$516b2o867b2o$
1385b2o15$396b2o$396b2o867b2o$1265b2o6$624b2o$624b2o867b2o$269b2o1222b
2o$269b2o867b2o$1138b2o5$523b2o$523b2o867b2o$1392b2o15$403b2o$403b2o
867b2o$1272b2o6$631b2o$631b2o867b2o$276b2o1222b2o$276b2o867b2o$1145b2o
5$530b2o$530b2o867b2o$1399b2o15$410b2o$410b2o867b2o$1279b2o6$638b2o$
638b2o867b2o$283b2o1222b2o$283b2o867b2o$1152b2o5$537b2o$537b2o867b2o$
1406b2o15$417b2o$417b2o867b2o$1286b2o6$645b2o$645b2o867b2o$290b2o1222b
2o$290b2o867b2o$1159b2o5$544b2o$544b2o867b2o$1413b2o15$424b2o$424b2o
867b2o$1293b2o6$652b2o$652b2o867b2o$297b2o1222b2o$297b2o867b2o$1166b2o
5$551b2o$551b2o867b2o$1420b2o15$431b2o$431b2o867b2o$1300b2o6$659b2o$
659b2o867b2o$304b2o1222b2o$304b2o867b2o$1173b2o5$558b2o$558b2o867b2o$
1427b2o15$438b2o$438b2o867b2o$1307b2o6$666b2o$666b2o867b2o$311b2o1222b
2o$311b2o867b2o$1180b2o5$565b2o$565b2o867b2o$1434b2o15$445b2o$445b2o
867b2o$1314b2o6$673b2o$673b2o867b2o$318b2o1222b2o$318b2o867b2o$1187b2o
5$572b2o$572b2o867b2o$1441b2o15$452b2o$452b2o867b2o$1321b2o6$680b2o$
680b2o867b2o$325b2o1222b2o$325b2o867b2o$1194b2o5$579b2o$579b2o867b2o$
1448b2o15$459b2o$459b2o867b2o$1328b2o6$687b2o$687b2o867b2o$332b2o1222b
2o$332b2o867b2o$1201b2o5$586b2o$586b2o867b2o$1455b2o15$466b2o$466b2o
867b2o$1335b2o6$694b2o$694b2o867b2o$339b2o1222b2o$339b2o867b2o$1208b2o
5$593b2o$593b2o867b2o$1462b2o15$473b2o$473b2o867b2o$1342b2o6$701b2o$
701b2o867b2o$346b2o1222b2o$346b2o867b2o$1215b2o5$600b2o$600b2o867b2o$
1469b2o15$480b2o$480b2o867b2o$1349b2o6$708b2o$708b2o867b2o$353b2o1222b
2o$353b2o867b2o$1222b2o5$607b2o$607b2o867b2o$1476b2o15$487b2o$487b2o
867b2o$1356b2o6$715b2o$715b2o867b2o$360b2o1222b2o$360b2o867b2o$1229b2o
5$614b2o$614b2o867b2o$1483b2o15$494b2o$494b2o867b2o$1363b2o6$722b2o$
722b2o867b2o$367b2o1222b2o$367b2o867b2o$1236b2o5$621b2o$621b2o867b2o$
1490b2o15$501b2o$501b2o867b2o$1370b2o6$729b2o$729b2o867b2o$374b2o1222b
2o$374b2o867b2o$1243b2o5$628b2o$628b2o867b2o$1497b2o15$508b2o$508b2o
867b2o$1377b2o6$736b2o$736b2o867b2o$381b2o1222b2o$381b2o867b2o$1250b2o
5$635b2o$635b2o867b2o$1504b2o15$515b2o$515b2o867b2o$1384b2o6$743b2o$
743b2o867b2o$388b2o1222b2o$388b2o867b2o$1257b2o5$642b2o$642b2o867b2o$
1511b2o15$522b2o$522b2o867b2o$1391b2o6$750b2o$750b2o867b2o$395b2o1222b
2o$395b2o867b2o$1264b2o5$649b2o$649b2o867b2o$1518b2o15$529b2o$529b2o
867b2o$1398b2o6$757b2o$757b2o867b2o$402b2o1222b2o$402b2o867b2o$1271b2o
5$656b2o$656b2o867b2o$1525b2o15$536b2o$536b2o867b2o$1405b2o6$764b2o$
764b2o867b2o$409b2o1222b2o$409b2o867b2o$1278b2o5$663b2o$663b2o867b2o$
1532b2o15$543b2o$543b2o867b2o$1412b2o6$771b2o$771b2o867b2o$416b2o1222b
2o$416b2o867b2o$1285b2o5$670b2o$670b2o867b2o$1539b2o15$550b2o$550b2o
867b2o$1419b2o6$778b2o$778b2o867b2o$423b2o1222b2o$423b2o867b2o$1292b2o
5$677b2o$677b2o867b2o$1546b2o15$557b2o$557b2o867b2o$1426b2o6$785b2o$
785b2o867b2o$430b2o1222b2o$430b2o867b2o$1299b2o5$684b2o$684b2o867b2o$
1553b2o8$427b3o$427bo$427b3o2$428bo$428b3o$430b3o$430b2o132b2o$564b2o
867b2o$1433b2o6$431b2o359b2o$431b2o359b2o867b2o$1661b2o$1306b2o$1306b
2o4$429bo$428bobo260b2o$428bobo260b2o867b2o$429bo1130b2o10$430b2o$430b
2o4$571b2o$571b2o867b2o$1440b2o6$394bo43b2o359b2o$393bo44b2o359b2o867b
2o$393b3o1272b2o$1313b2o$1313b2o4$436bo$435bobo260b2o$435bobo260b2o
867b2o$436bo1130b2o10$437b2o$437b2o3$473bo$474b2o102b2o$473b2o103b2o
867b2o$1447b2o6$445b2o359b2o$445b2o359b2o867b2o$1675b2o$1320b2o$1320b
2o4$443bo$442bobo260b2o$442bobo260b2o867b2o$443bo1130b2o10$444b2o$444b
2o4$585b2o$585b2o867b2o$1454b2o6$452b2o359b2o$452b2o359b2o867b2o$1682b
2o$1327b2o$1327b2o$362bo$361bo$361b3o$450bo$449bobo260b2o$449bobo260b
2o867b2o$450bo1130b2o10$451b2o$451b2o4$592b2o$592b2o867b2o$1461b2o2$
519bo$520b2o$519b2o2$459b2o359b2o$459b2o359b2o867b2o$1689b2o$1334b2o$
1334b2o4$457bo$456bobo260b2o$456bobo260b2o867b2o$457bo1130b2o10$458b2o
$458b2o4$599b2o$599b2o867b2o$1468b2o6$466b2o359b2o$466b2o359b2o867b2o$
1696b2o$1341b2o$1341b2o4$464bo$463bobo260b2o$330bo132bobo260b2o867b2o$
329bo134bo1130b2o$329b3o267b3o$600bo$598b3o7$465b2o$465b2o2$600b2o$
600b2o2$1475b2o$1475b2o4$598bo$597bobo$473b2o122bobo234b2o$473b2o90bo
32bo235b2o867b2o$566b2o1135b2o$565b2o781b2o$1348b2o4$471bo$470bobo260b
2o$470bobo260b2o867b2o$471bo127b2o1001b2o$599b2o9$472b2o92bo$472b2o92b
obo$566b2o$607b2o$607b2o2$1482b2o$1482b2o4$605bo$604bobo$480b2o122bobo
234b2o$480b2o123bo235b2o867b2o$1710b2o$1355b2o$1355b2o4$478bo$477bobo
260b2o$477bobo260b2o867b2o$478bo127b2o1001b2o$606b2o30bobo$639b2o$639b
o$298bo$297bo$297b3o4$479b2o$479b2o2$614b2o$614b2o2$1489b2o$1489b2o4$
612bo$611bobo$487b2o122bobo234b2o$487b2o123bo235b2o867b2o$1717b2o$
1362b2o$1362b2o2$611bo$612b2o$485bo125b2o$484bobo260b2o$484bobo260b2o
867b2o$485bo127b2o1001b2o$613b2o9$486b2o$486b2o2$621b2o$621b2o$534bo$
534bobo959b2o$534b2o960b2o6$494b2o359b2o$494b2o359b2o867b2o$1724b2o$
1369b2o$1369b2o4$492bo$491bobo260b2o$491bobo260b2o867b2o$492bo1130b2o
6$684bobo$685b2o$685bo$266bo$265bo227b2o$265b3o225b2o2$628b2o$628b2o2$
1503b2o$1503b2o6$501b2o359b2o$501b2o359b2o867b2o$1731b2o$1376b2o$1376b
2o4$499bo$498bobo260b2o$498bobo260b2o867b2o$499bo1130b2o8$1377bo$1376b
2o$500b2o873bo2bo$500b2o873bobo$1375bo2bo$635b2o738bo2bo$635b2o739bobo
$1375b3o$1510b2o$1510b2o$761b3o$762bo$502bo257b3o$502bobo$502b2o$508b
2o359b2o$508b2o359b2o506b2o359b2o$1377b2o359b2o5$762b2o$506bo255b2o$
505bobo867bo$505bobo866bobo260b2o$506bo867bobo260b2o$1375bo3$760bo$
759bobo$759bobo$760bo3$507b2o$507b2o221bobo643b2o$731b2o643b2o$642b2o
87bo$234bo407b2o$233bo$233b3o1281b2o$761b2o754b2o$761b2o5$515b2o359b2o
463bo$515b2o359b2o463bobo40b2o359b2o$1341b2o41b2o359b2o2$728bo$728bobo
$728b2o$769b2o$513bo255b2o$512bobo867bo$512bobo866bobo260b2o$513bo867b
obo260b2o$1382bo3$767bo$766bobo$766bobo$767bo3$514b2o$514b2o867b2o$
1383b2o$649b2o$649b2o766bobo$1418b2o$1418bo105b2o$768b2o754b2o$768b2o
30bobo$801b2o$801bo3$522b2o359b2o$522b2o359b2o506b2o359b2o$470bo920b2o
359b2o$470bobo$470b2o3$776b2o$520bo255b2o$519bobo867bo$519bobo866bobo
260b2o$520bo867bobo260b2o$1389bo3$774bo$773bobo$773bobo$774bo3$521b2o$
521b2o867b2o$1390b2o$656b2o117bo$656b2o116bobo$773bo3bo$773bo3bo753b2o
$773bo757b2o$774b3o$202bo$201bo$201b3o2$529b2o359b2o$529b2o359b2o506b
2o359b2o$1398b2o359b2o3$1309bo$1309bobo$783b2o524b2o$527bo255b2o$526bo
bo167bo699bo$526bobo167bobo696bobo260b2o$527bo168b2o697bobo260b2o$
1396bo9$528b2o$528b2o867b2o$1397b2o$663b2o$663b2o2$1538b2o$1538b2o2$
1463bobo$1464b2o$1464bo2$536b2o308bobo48b2o$536b2o309b2o48b2o506b2o
359b2o$847bo557b2o359b2o5$438bo351b2o$438bobo93bo255b2o$438b2o93bobo
867bo$533bobo866bobo260b2o$534bo867bobo260b2o$1403bo8$897b3o$535b2o
361bo$535b2o359b3o505b2o$1404b2o$670b2o$670b2o2$1545b2o$1545b2o4$898b
2o$898b2o$543b2o$170bo372b2o867b2o359b2o$169bo1242b2o359b2o$169b3o3$
896bo$797b2o96bobo$541bo255b2o96bobo$540bobo353bo513bo135bo$540bobo
734bo131bobo133b2o125b2o$541bo735bobo129bobo132bo2bo124b2o$1277b2o131b
o133bobo$1544bo2bo$664bo879bo2bo$664bobo878bobo$664b2o878b3o3$897b2o$
897b2o$542b2o$542b2o867b2o$1411b2o$677b2o$677b2o867b2o$1546b2o3$864bo$
864bobo$864b2o$905b2o$905b2o637bo$550b2o991bobo$550b2o867b2o88bobo31bo
bo234b2o$1419b2o89b2o32bo235b2o$1510bo2$892bobo$893b2o8bo$804b2o87bo8b
obo$548bo255b2o96bobo$547bobo353bo513bo$547bobo866bobo260b2o$548bo867b
obo260b2o$406bo1010bo127b2o$406bobo1136b2o$406b2o5$904b2o$904b2o30bobo
$549b2o386b2o$549b2o386bo480b2o$1418b2o$684b2o824bo$684b2o824bobo40b2o
$1510b2o41b2o6$912b2o$912b2o637bo$557b2o991bobo$557b2o867b2o122bobo
234b2o$1426b2o123bo235b2o4$138bo$137bo673b2o$137b3o415bo255b2o$554bobo
867bo$554bobo866bobo260b2o$555bo867bobo260b2o$1424bo127b2o$1552b2o2$
1245bo340bobo$1245bobo339b2o$1245b2o340bo2$632bo$632bobo$556b2o74b2o$
556b2o867b2o$1425b2o$691b2o$691b2o867b2o$1560b2o6$919b2o$919b2o637bo$
564b2o266bo724bobo$564b2o266bobo598b2o122bobo234b2o$832b2o599b2o123bo
235b2o4$1555bobo$818b2o736b2o$562bo255b2o736bo$561bobo867bo$561bobo
866bobo260b2o$562bo867bobo260b2o$1431bo127b2o$1559b2o4$374bo$374bobo$
374b2o2$563b2o$563b2o867b2o$1432b2o$698b2o$698b2o282bobo582b2o$983b2o
582b2o$983bo2$1478bo$1478bobo$1478b2o$926b2o$926b2o$571b2o$571b2o867b
2o359b2o$1440b2o359b2o5$825b2o$569bo255b2o$568bobo867bo$568bobo866bobo
260b2o$106bo462bo867bobo260b2o$105bo1332bo$105b3o7$1213bo418bobo$570b
2o641bobo417b2o$570b2o641b2o224b2o192bo$1439b2o$600bo104b2o$600bobo
102b2o867b2o$600b2o972b2o6$933b2o$933b2o$578b2o$578b2o867b2o359b2o$
1447b2o359b2o3$800bo$800bobo$800b2o30b2o$576bo255b2o$575bobo867bo$575b
obo866bobo260b2o$576bo867bobo260b2o$1445bo9$577b2o$342bo234b2o867b2o$
342bobo1101b2o$342b2o368b2o$712b2o867b2o$1581b2o125bo$1707b2o$1706bo2b
o$1706bobo$1028bobo675bo2bo$1029b2o675bo2bo$940b2o87bo677bobo$940b2o
764b3o$585b2o859bo$585b2o859bobo5b2o359b2o$1446b2o6b2o359b2o5$839b2o$
839b2o867b2o$1452bo255b2o$1451bobo$1451bobo$1452bo4$74bo1631bo$73bo
1631bobo$73b3o1629bobo$1706bo2$584b2o$584b2o867b2o$1453b2o$719b2o$719b
2o460bo406b2o88bobo$1181bobo404b2o89b2o$1181b2o496bo2$1707b2o$1707b2o
2$947b2o$947b2o$592b2o$592b2o867b2o359b2o$1461b2o359b2o5$846b2o824bo$
846b2o824bobo40b2o$1459bo212b2o41b2o$768bo689bobo$768bobo687bobo$768b
2o689bo4$1713bo$1712bobo$1712bobo$1713bo2$591b2o$591b2o867b2o$1460b2o$
726b2o$726b2o867b2o$1595b2o$310bo$310bobo$310b2o1402b2o$1714b2o2$954b
2o792bobo$954b2o793b2o$599b2o1148bo$599b2o473bobo391b2o359b2o$1075b2o
391b2o359b2o$1075bo2$1414bo$1414bobo$853b2o559b2o$853b2o867b2o$1466bo
255b2o$1465bobo$1465bobo$1466bo4$1720bo$1719bobo$1719bobo$1720bo2$42bo
555b2o$41bo556b2o867b2o251b3o$41b3o1423b2o251b3o$733b2o985b4o$733b2o
867b2o118bob2o$1602b2o117b2ob2o$1717b2o2b5o$1722b3o$1724bo$1149bo$
1149bobo$961b2o186b2o$961b2o$606b2o$606b2o867b2o359b2o$1475b2o359b2o5$
860b2o$860b2o867b2o$1473bo255b2o$1472bobo$1472bobo$1473bo166bo$1640bob
o$1640b2o$736bo$736bobo$736b2o4$605b2o$605b2o867b2o$1474b2o$740b2o$
740b2o867b2o$1609b2o6$278bo689b2o$278bobo687b2o$278b2o333b2o$613b2o
867b2o359b2o$1482b2o359b2o$1794bobo$1795b2o$1795bo$1120bobo$867b2o252b
2o$867b2o252bo614b2o$1480bo255b2o$1382bo96bobo$1382bobo94bobo$1382b2o
96bo5$1844bo$1843b2o$1842bo2bo$1842bobo$612b2o1228bo2bo$612b2o867b2o
359bo2bo$1481b2o360bobo$747b2o1093b3o$747b2o867b2o$10bo1605b2o$9bo$9b
3o4$975b2o$975b2o867b2o$620b2o1222b2o$620b2o495bo371b2o$1117bobo369b2o
$1117b2o4$874b2o966bo$874b2o867b2o96bobo$1487bo255b2o96bobo$1486bobo
353bo$1486bobo$1487bo5$1608bo$1608bobo$1608b2o$8bo695bo1138b2o$7b2o
610b2o83bobo1136b2o$7bobo609b2o83b2o782b2o$1488b2o$754b2o$40bo713b2o
867b2o$39b2o1582b2o$39bobo3$72bo$71b2o$71bobo908b2o824bo$982b2o824bobo
40b2o$627b2o1179b2o41b2o$104bo522b2o867b2o$103b2o1391b2o$103bobo140bo$
246bobo$246b2o$136bo$2b2o131b2o744b2o966bo$3bo131bobo743b2o867b2o88bob
o5bobo$3o1491bo255b2o89b2o5bobo$o1492bobo345bo7bo$168bo997bobo324bobo$
167b2o998b2o325bo$167bobo997bo2$1350bo$200bo1149bobo$199b2o1149b2o$
199bobo2$1850b2o$232bo393b2o1222b2o$231b2o393b2o867b2o$231bobo1261b2o
387bobo$761b2o1122b2o$761b2o867b2o253bo$264bo1365b2o$263b2o$263bobo3$
296bo$295b2o692b2o$295bobo691b2o867b2o$634b2o1222b2o$634b2o867b2o$328b
o1174b2o$327b2o$327bobo2$1085bo$9b2o349bo527b2o195bobo$10bo348b2o527b
2o195b2o670b2o$7b3o349bobo1139bo255b2o$7bo1492bobo$1500bobo$392bo1108b
o$391b2o$391bobo3$424bo$423b2o$423bobo2$633b2o$456bo176b2o867b2o72bo$
455b2o1045b2o72bobo$455bobo310b2o806b2o$672bo95b2o867b2o$672bobo962b2o
$488bo183b2o$487b2o$487bobo3$520bo475b2o$519b2o475b2o867b2o$519bobo
119b2o1222b2o$641b2o867b2o$1510b2o$552bo1223bo$551b2o1223bobo$551bobo
1222b2o2$16b2o877b2o$17bo196bo369bo310b2o867b2o$14b3o197bobo366b2o923b
o255b2o$14bo199b2o367bobo921bobo$1507bobo$1508bo$616bo$615b2o$615bobo$
1212bobo$1213b2o$648bo564bo$647b2o$647bobo668bo$640b2o676bobo$640b2o
676b2o189b2o$680bo828b2o$679b2o94b2o$679bobo93b2o867b2o$1644b2o2$712bo
1217bobo$711b2o1218b2o$711bobo1217bo2$1003b2o$744bo258b2o867b2o$648b2o
93b2o1127b2o$648b2o93bobo771b2o$1517b2o2$776bo$775b2o$775bobo$23b2o
877b2o$24bo877b2o867b2o$21b3o784bo706bo255b2o$21bo785b2o705bobo$807bob
o243bo460bobo$1053bobo459bo$1053b2o$840bo$839b2o$839bobo3$872bo$871b2o
$871bobo$1516b2o$1516b2o$782b2o120bo$782b2o119b2o746b2o$903bobo745b2o$
1544bo$1544bobo$936bo607b2o$935b2o$935bobo$1010b2o$1010b2o867b2o$655b
2o311bo910b2o$655b2o310b2o555b2o$967bobo554b2o3$1000bo$999b2o$30b2o
877b2o88bobo$31bo877b2o833bo33b2o$28b3o1491bo221bobo31b2o$28bo1003bo
488bobo220b2o$1031b2o488bobo$1031bobo488bo$182bo$182bobo$182b2o880bo$
1063b2o$1063bobo3$1096bo$1095b2o161bobo$1095bobo161b2o262b2o$1259bo
263b2o$789b2o$789b2o337bo157bo371b2o$1127b2o157bobo369b2o$1127bobo156b
2o3$1160bo$1159b2o$1017b2o140bobo$1017b2o867b2o88bobo$662b2o1222b2o89b
2o$662b2o528bo338b2o444bo$1191b2o338b2o$1191bobo3$1224bo$37b2o877b2o
305b2o$38bo877b2o305bobo559b2o$35b3o1747b2o$35bo$1256bo$1255b2o$1255bo
bo3$1021bo$1021bobo$1021b2o4$1530b2o$1530b2o$796b2o$796b2o867b2o$1665b
2o6$1024b2o$1024b2o867b2o$669b2o1222b2o$669b2o867b2o$1538b2o5$44b2o
877b2o$45bo877b2o867b2o$42b3o1747b2o$42bo3$1712bo$1712bobo$1712b2o3$
150bo$150bobo$150b2o2$1537b2o$1537b2o$803b2o$803b2o867b2o$1672b2o6$
1031b2o$1031b2o867b2o$676b2o1222b2o$676b2o867b2o$1545b2o2$2022bobo$
2023b2o$2023bo$51b2o877b2o$52bo877b2o867b2o$49b3o1747b2o$49bo11$989bo$
989bobo552b2o$989b2o553b2o$810b2o$810b2o867b2o$1679b2o6$1038b2o$1038b
2o867b2o$683b2o1222b2o$683b2o867b2o$1552b2o5$58b2o877b2o$59bo877b2o
867b2o$56b3o1747b2o$56bo8$1680bo$1680bobo$1680b2o2$1551b2o$118bo1432b
2o$118bobo696b2o$118b2o697b2o867b2o$1686b2o6$1045b2o$1045b2o867b2o$
690b2o1222b2o$690b2o867b2o$1559b2o5$65b2o877b2o$66bo877b2o867b2o$63b3o
1747b2o253bobo$63bo2005b2o$2069bo11$1558b2o$1558b2o$824b2o$824b2o867b
2o$957bo735b2o$957bobo$957b2o4$1052b2o$1052b2o867b2o$697b2o1222b2o$
697b2o867b2o$1566b2o5$72b2o877b2o$73bo877b2o867b2o$70b3o1747b2o$70bo
12$1565b2o$1565b2o81bo$831b2o815bobo$831b2o815b2o50b2o$1700b2o2$86bo$
86bobo$86b2o2$1059b2o$1059b2o867b2o$704b2o1222b2o$704b2o867b2o$1573b2o
5$79b2o877b2o$80bo877b2o867b2o$77b3o1747b2o$77bo4$2114bobo$2115b2o$
2115bo6$1572b2o$1572b2o$838b2o$838b2o867b2o$1707b2o5$925bo$925bobo138b
2o$925b2o139b2o867b2o$711b2o1222b2o$711b2o867b2o$1580b2o5$965b2o$965b
2o867b2o$1834b2o13$1579b2o$1579b2o$845b2o$845b2o867b2o$1714b2o2$1616bo
$1616bobo$1616b2o2$1073b2o$1073b2o867b2o$718b2o1222b2o$718b2o867b2o$
1587b2o5$972b2o$972b2o867b2o$1841b2o10$2160bobo$2161b2o$2161bo$1586b2o
$1586b2o$852b2o$852b2o867b2o$1721b2o6$1080b2o$1080b2o867b2o$725b2o
1222b2o$725b2o867b2o$893bo700b2o$893bobo$893b2o3$979b2o$979b2o867b2o$
1848b2o15$859b2o$859b2o867b2o$1728b2o6$1087b2o$1087b2o867b2o$732b2o
1222b2o$732b2o867b2o$1601b2o5$986b2o$986b2o867b2o$1855b2o15$866b2o
1338bobo$866b2o867b2o470b2o$1735b2o470bo6$1094b2o$1094b2o867b2o$739b2o
1222b2o$739b2o867b2o$1608b2o5$861bo131b2o$861bobo129b2o867b2o$861b2o
999b2o15$873b2o$873b2o867b2o$1742b2o6$1101b2o$1101b2o867b2o$746b2o
1222b2o$746b2o867b2o$1615b2o5$1000b2o$1000b2o867b2o$1869b2o15$880b2o$
880b2o867b2o$1749b2o3$2252bobo$2253b2o$2253bo$1108b2o$1108b2o867b2o$
753b2o1222b2o$753b2o867b2o$1622b2o5$1007b2o$1007b2o867b2o$1876b2o3$
829bo$829bobo$829b2o10$887b2o$887b2o867b2o$1756b2o6$1115b2o$1115b2o
867b2o$760b2o1222b2o$760b2o867b2o$1629b2o5$1014b2o$1014b2o867b2o$1883b
2o15$894b2o$894b2o867b2o$1763b2o6$1122b2o$1122b2o867b2o$767b2o1222b2o
305bobo$767b2o867b2o661b2o$1636b2o661bo5$1021b2o$1021b2o867b2o$1890b2o
8$797bo$797bobo$797b2o5$901b2o$901b2o867b2o$1770b2o6$1129b2o$1129b2o
867b2o$1998b2o$1643b2o$1643b2o5$1028b2o$1028b2o867b2o$1897b2o16$1777b
2o$1777b2o6$1136b2o$1136b2o867b2o$2005b2o5$2344bobo$2345b2o$2345bo$
1904b2o$1904b2o13$765bo$765bobo$765b2o9$2012b2o$2012b2o44$2390bobo$
2391b2o$2391bo15$733bo$733bobo$733b2o54$2436bobo$2437b2o$2437bo15$701b
o$701bobo$701b2o54$2482bobo$2483b2o$2483bo15$669bo$669bobo$669b2o!

Can't really claim success until we have a rake/rephaser that allows the free choice to fire/not fire a glider on either side, each time the trails are rephased. But with any luck there's some construction on the left that will absorb both trailing glider streams.

No idea yet on how to optionally suppress the backrake on the right, though: unfortunately a central kickback can't throw a glider forward through the right-hand trails, after either one or two rephasings. I think there's a clear path after three rephasings, but that means three rightward backrake streams would have to be cleaned up with one forward stream... not impossible, but maybe not very likely either.

Construction recipes are going to be a little strange. Because one rephasing moves the trail by (-6,-2), the left side has a slow-salvo construction stripe of width 41, where the right side is only width 27. 27 is a bit narrow for incremental constructions, but probably not impossible. Luckily the rephasing distance is relatively prime to the stripe width on both sides -- it's (+8N) mod 41 on the left, and (-4N) mod 27 on the right.

I think initial slow-salvo targets can be conveniently made by the B+glider version of the reaction, once we have a clean right-side forward rake to shoot down the extra glider outputs. With a horizontal offset of 7, it should be quite a bit easier to find a workable edge-shooting *WSS recipe -- the intermediate targets won't get in the way.

... So what horrible difficulties have I left out here?


Let's see if any more progress can be made here.
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Re: (34,7)c/156 caterpillar

Postby Gamedziner » November 14th, 2016, 6:12 pm

I wonder if those gliders emitted could be "bounced back"?
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Re: (34,7)c/156 caterpillar

Postby Sphenocorona » January 4th, 2019, 9:58 pm

Here's a sketch for a potential (34,7)c/156 spaceship design plan:

(34,7)c156 Spaceship Sketch.png
Design plan for a (34,7)c/156 spaceship. A similar design could be used for any other dirty climbers which can burn either gliders or a component of their debris.
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The goal here is to exploit the fact that the climber is both a bit messy, and also able to burn gliders in addition to blocks. (It turns out it can also burn boats too, so there's 3 potential input fuel sources.) A single stream of gliders on the left can be burned repeatedly by Herschels, forming a large field of debris. This debris can act as a "sponge" for gliders coming from the block tracks on the right, helping reduce the number of xWSS streams needed at the end for clean up. This sponge could also be used to do useful construction, such as generating the cleanup xWSS streams.

Something not mentioned here is that, since the single-glider cleanup approach is on the right of the climbers in the image above, a string of debris in the sponge could be one-time converted into a burnable block fuse very easily. This might be useful for turning gliders from the block tracks back towards the right to help with construction of the helix or rephasing, or just to move where the debris is relative to the block tracks.
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Re: (34,7)c/156 caterpillar

Postby AbhpzTa » January 5th, 2019, 2:09 pm

6-trail forerake/rephaser/backrake:
x = 1002, y = 3916, rule = B3/S23
43b2o$43b2o3$103b2o$19b2o82b2o$19b2o58b2o$79b2o2$2o$2o211b2o$213b2o23$
50b2o$50b2o3$110b2o$26b2o82b2o$26b2o58b2o$86b2o2$7b2o$7b2o211b2o$220b
2o23$57b2o$57b2o3$117b2o$33b2o82b2o$33b2o58b2o$93b2o2$14b2o$14b2o211b
2o$227b2o23$64b2o$64b2o3$124b2o$40b2o82b2o$40b2o58b2o$100b2o2$21b2o$
21b2o211b2o$234b2o23$71b2o$71b2o3$131b2o$47b2o82b2o$47b2o58b2o$107b2o
2$28b2o$28b2o211b2o$241b2o23$78b2o$78b2o3$138b2o$54b2o82b2o$54b2o58b2o
$114b2o2$35b2o$35b2o211b2o$248b2o23$85b2o$85b2o3$145b2o$61b2o82b2o$61b
2o58b2o$121b2o2$42b2o$42b2o211b2o$255b2o23$92b2o$92b2o3$152b2o$68b2o
82b2o$68b2o58b2o$128b2o2$49b2o$49b2o211b2o$262b2o23$99b2o$99b2o3$159b
2o$75b2o82b2o$75b2o58b2o$135b2o2$56b2o$56b2o211b2o$269b2o23$106b2o$
106b2o3$166b2o$82b2o82b2o$82b2o58b2o$142b2o2$63b2o$63b2o211b2o$276b2o
23$113b2o$113b2o3$173b2o$89b2o82b2o$89b2o58b2o$149b2o2$70b2o$70b2o211b
2o$283b2o23$120b2o$120b2o3$180b2o$96b2o82b2o$96b2o58b2o$156b2o2$77b2o$
77b2o211b2o$290b2o23$127b2o$127b2o3$187b2o$103b2o82b2o$103b2o58b2o$
163b2o2$84b2o$84b2o211b2o$297b2o23$134b2o$134b2o3$194b2o$110b2o82b2o$
110b2o58b2o$170b2o2$91b2o$91b2o211b2o$304b2o23$141b2o$141b2o3$201b2o$
117b2o82b2o$117b2o58b2o$177b2o2$98b2o$98b2o211b2o$311b2o23$148b2o$148b
2o3$208b2o$124b2o82b2o$124b2o58b2o$184b2o2$105b2o$105b2o211b2o$318b2o
23$155b2o$155b2o3$215b2o$131b2o82b2o$131b2o58b2o$191b2o2$112b2o$112b2o
211b2o$325b2o23$162b2o$162b2o3$222b2o$138b2o82b2o$138b2o58b2o$198b2o2$
119b2o$119b2o211b2o$332b2o23$169b2o$169b2o3$229b2o$145b2o82b2o$145b2o
58b2o$205b2o2$126b2o$126b2o211b2o$339b2o23$176b2o$176b2o3$236b2o$152b
2o82b2o$152b2o58b2o$212b2o2$133b2o$133b2o211b2o$346b2o23$183b2o$183b2o
3$243b2o$159b2o82b2o$159b2o58b2o$219b2o2$140b2o$140b2o211b2o$353b2o23$
190b2o$190b2o3$250b2o$166b2o82b2o$166b2o58b2o$226b2o2$147b2o$147b2o
211b2o$360b2o23$197b2o$197b2o3$257b2o$173b2o82b2o$173b2o58b2o$233b2o2$
154b2o$154b2o211b2o$367b2o23$204b2o$204b2o3$264b2o$180b2o82b2o$180b2o
58b2o$240b2o2$161b2o$161b2o211b2o$374b2o23$211b2o$211b2o3$271b2o$187b
2o82b2o$187b2o58b2o$247b2o2$168b2o$168b2o211b2o$381b2o23$218b2o$218b2o
3$278b2o$194b2o82b2o$194b2o58b2o$254b2o2$175b2o$175b2o211b2o$388b2o23$
225b2o$225b2o3$285b2o$201b2o82b2o$201b2o58b2o$261b2o2$182b2o$182b2o72b
3o136b2o$248bo7bo138b2o$247b4ob2obobo9bo$246bo2b3obobo3bo5bo3bo$245b3o
3b2o4b2o11bo$242bo3bobobo4bo7b2o5b2o$240b2o4b3o7b2o5bo8bo$241b2o5bo7bo
6bo4bobo$264b3o3bo2bo$269bo2b2o$269b3o$270bo4$254b2o$254b2o8$232b2o$
232b2o3$262b2o28b2o$208b2o52b2o28b2o$208b2o65bo$273bobo$274b2o$189b2o$
189b2o211b2o$402b2o$260bo$259bobo$259bobo$260bo10$261b2o$261b2o8$239b
2o$239b2o3$269b2o28b2o$215b2o52b2o28b2o$215b2o3$196b2o$196b2o211b2o$
409b2o$267bo$266bobo$266bobo$267bo5$210bo$208b2o$209b2o3$268b2o$268b2o
8$246b2o$246b2o3$276b2o28b2o$222b2o52b2o28b2o$222b2o3$203b2o$203b2o
211b2o$321bo94b2o$274bo44bobo$273bobo44b2o$273bobo$274bo10$275b2o$275b
2o8$253b2o$253b2o51b2o$306bob2o$307b2obo$283b2o25bo$229b2o52b2o24bo$
229b2o4$203bobo217b2o$202b2obo98b2o117b2o$205bo8bo66bo22bobo$210b2obo
66bobo23b2o$208bo4b2o6bo58bobo23b2o$200bo7bo10bo2bo58bo21b2o$200bo2bo
4bo11bobo$185bo9b2o4bobo6bob2o6b2o$184bobo7bo2bo4bo$184bobo2b3ob2ob3o$
185bo3b2o3bo2b3o$191b2obob2o2bo$193b12o$197bo5bo102b2o$198b2o106b2o$
199bo2bo27bo$200bo28b3o$229b3o$203b2o$203b2o23b4o$228b5o$229bob2o3$
260b2o$213b2o45b2o$213bobo98b2o$213bo16b2o82b2o$230b2o58b2o$290b2o$
257bo$211b2o43b2o$211b2o42b4o$254b2o3b3o$255bo5bo50bo117b2o$261bo49bob
o116b2o$255bo4bo27bo22bobo$254b2o2bo28bobo22bo$222b3o3b3ob2o20b2obo29b
obo$222bobo2b5o2bo20b2o31bo$222bo2b3ob2o136bo$192bo30bobo5bo108bo24bob
o$191bobo29b3o5bo2bo103bobo25b2o$191bobo29bobo6bo20b2o84b2o$192bo31bo
28b2o$224bo2$313b2o$313b2o$265bo$263bobo$264b2o5$261b2o$261b2o3$321b2o
$237b2o82b2o$237b2o58b2o$297b2o2$218b2o$218b2o2$319bo117b2o$318bobo
116b2o$295bo22bobo$294bobo22bo$294bobo$295bo2$199bo$198bobo$198bobo$
199bo3$320b2o$320b2o8$268b2o$268b2o3$328b2o$244b2o82b2o$244b2o58b2o$
218bo85b2o$216b2o$217b2o6b2o$225b2o2$326bo117b2o$325bobo116b2o$302bo
22bobo$301bobo22bo$301bobo$302bo2$206bo$205bobo$205bobo$206bo$413bo$
386bo24bobo$327b2o55bobo25b2o$327b2o56b2o6$311bo$309bobo$275b2o33b2o$
275b2o3$335b2o$251b2o82b2o$251b2o58b2o$311b2o2$232b2o$232b2o2$333bo
117b2o$332bobo116b2o$309bo22bobo$308bobo22bo$308bobo$309bo8$334b2o$
334b2o8$282b2o$282b2o3$342b2o$258b2o82b2o$258b2o58b2o$56b2o260b2o$55b
2o$57bo181b2o$239b2o2$88b2o368b2o$87b2o369b2o$89bo226bo$315bobo$315bob
o$120b2o194bo$119b2o$121bo3$152b2o$151b2o$153bo3$184b2o$183b2o274bo$
185bo246bo24bobo$430bobo25b2o$431b2o$216b2o$215b2o$217bo71b2o$289b2o2$
248b2o$247b2o100b2o$249bo15b2o82b2o$265b2o58b2o$325b2o$280b2o$246b2o
31b2o$246b2o33bo2$465b2o$312b2o151b2o$311b2o10bo$313bo8bobo$322bobo$
323bo$344b2o$343b2o$345bo$462bo$460b2ob2o$376b2o85b2o$375b2o82bo3bobo$
377bo$460bo$461b3o$408b2o52b2o$407b2o48b2o$409bo$457bobo$458b2o$440b2o
$296b2o141b2o$296b2o143bo25bo$468b2o$467b2o$356b2o$272b2o82b2o$272b2o
58b2o$332b2o2$253b2o$253b2o211b2o$466b2o3$330bo153b2o$329bobo151bo2bo$
329bobo152b2o$330bo17$303b2o$303b2o3$363b2o$279b2o82b2o$279b2o58b2o$
339b2o2$260b2o$260b2o211b2o$473b2o3$337bo$336bobo85bo$336bobo84bo$337b
o85b3o17$310b2o$310b2o3$370b2o$286b2o82b2o$286b2o58b2o$346b2o2$267b2o$
267b2o211b2o$480b2o3$344bo$343bobo$343bobo$344bo17$317b2o$317b2o3$377b
2o$293b2o82b2o$293b2o58b2o$353b2o2$274b2o$274b2o211b2o$487b2o3$351bo$
350bobo$350bobo$351bo3$392bo$391bo$391b3o12$324b2o$324b2o3$384b2o$300b
2o82b2o$300b2o58b2o$360b2o2$281b2o$281b2o211b2o$494b2o3$358bo$357bobo$
357bobo$358bo17$331b2o$331b2o3$391b2o$307b2o82b2o$307b2o58b2o$367b2o2$
288b2o$288b2o211b2o$501b2o23$338b2o$338b2o3$398b2o$314b2o82b2o$314b2o
58b2o$374b2o2$295b2o$295b2o211b2o$508b2o23$345b2o$345b2o3$405b2o$321b
2o82b2o$321b2o58b2o$381b2o2$302b2o$302b2o211b2o$515b2o23$352b2o$352b2o
3$412b2o$328b2o82b2o$328b2o58b2o$388b2o2$309b2o$309b2o211b2o$522b2o23$
359b2o$359b2o3$419b2o$335b2o82b2o$335b2o58b2o$395b2o2$316b2o$316b2o
211b2o$529b2o23$366b2o$366b2o3$426b2o$342b2o82b2o$342b2o58b2o$402b2o2$
323b2o$323b2o211b2o$536b2o23$373b2o$373b2o3$433b2o$349b2o82b2o$349b2o
58b2o$409b2o2$330b2o$330b2o211b2o$543b2o23$380b2o$380b2o3$440b2o$356b
2o82b2o$356b2o58b2o$416b2o2$337b2o$337b2o211b2o$550b2o23$387b2o$387b2o
3$447b2o$363b2o82b2o$363b2o58b2o$423b2o2$344b2o$344b2o211b2o$557b2o23$
394b2o$394b2o3$454b2o$370b2o82b2o$370b2o58b2o$430b2o2$351b2o$351b2o
211b2o$564b2o23$401b2o$401b2o3$461b2o$377b2o82b2o$377b2o58b2o$437b2o2$
358b2o$358b2o211b2o$571b2o23$408b2o$408b2o3$468b2o$384b2o82b2o$384b2o
58b2o$444b2o2$365b2o$365b2o211b2o$578b2o23$415b2o$415b2o3$475b2o$391b
2o82b2o$391b2o58b2o$451b2o2$372b2o$372b2o211b2o$585b2o23$422b2o$422b2o
3$482b2o$398b2o82b2o$398b2o58b2o$458b2o2$379b2o$379b2o211b2o$592b2o23$
429b2o$429b2o3$489b2o$405b2o82b2o$405b2o58b2o$465b2o2$386b2o$386b2o
211b2o$599b2o23$436b2o$436b2o3$496b2o$412b2o82b2o$412b2o58b2o$472b2o2$
393b2o$393b2o211b2o$606b2o23$443b2o$443b2o3$503b2o$419b2o82b2o$419b2o
58b2o$479b2o2$400b2o$400b2o211b2o$613b2o23$450b2o$450b2o3$510b2o$426b
2o82b2o$426b2o58b2o$486b2o2$407b2o$407b2o211b2o$620b2o23$457b2o$457b2o
3$517b2o$433b2o82b2o$433b2o58b2o$493b2o2$414b2o$414b2o211b2o$627b2o23$
464b2o$464b2o3$524b2o$440b2o82b2o$440b2o58b2o$500b2o2$421b2o$421b2o
211b2o$634b2o23$471b2o$471b2o3$531b2o$447b2o82b2o$447b2o58b2o$507b2o2$
428b2o$428b2o72b3o136b2o$494bo7bo138b2o$493b4ob2obobo9bo$492bo2b3obobo
3bo5bo3bo$491b3o3b2o4b2o11bo$488bo3bobobo4bo7b2o5b2o$486b2o4b3o7b2o5bo
8bo$487b2o5bo7bo6bo4bobo$510b3o3bo2bo$515bo2b2o$515b3o$516bo4$500b2o$
500b2o8$478b2o$478b2o3$508b2o28b2o$454b2o52b2o28b2o$454b2o65bo$519bobo
$520b2o$435b2o$435b2o211b2o$648b2o$506bo$505bobo$505bobo$506bo10$507b
2o$507b2o8$485b2o$485b2o3$515b2o28b2o$461b2o52b2o28b2o$461b2o3$442b2o$
442b2o211b2o$655b2o$513bo$512bobo$512bobo$513bo5$456bo$454b2o$455b2o3$
514b2o$514b2o8$492b2o$492b2o3$522b2o28b2o$468b2o52b2o28b2o$468b2o3$
449b2o$449b2o211b2o$567bo94b2o$520bo44bobo$519bobo44b2o$519bobo$520bo
10$521b2o$521b2o8$499b2o$499b2o51b2o$552bob2o$553b2obo$529b2o25bo$475b
2o52b2o24bo$475b2o$448b3o$448b3o$447b2o2bo$446bob3obo216b2o$447bo2bo
99b2o117b2o$449b2o76bo22bobo$456bo69bobo23b2o$454bobo69bobo23b2o$454bo
10b3o59bo21b2o$454bo$447bo16bo3bo$446b2o16bo3bo$446bo$446b2o17b3o$443b
ob2o$439b3ob3o30bo$439b2o3bo30b3o74b2o$438b3o2b3o28b4o74b2o$440bobobo$
442b2o$442bo31b4o$449b2o23b4o$449b2o24bo4$457b2o$456b2o48b2o$458bo47b
2o$560b2o$476b2o82b2o$476b2o58b2o$500bo35b2o$499bo3bo$457b2o40b2o$457b
2o37b3o2bo2bo3b3o$496bo2b3o4bo3b2o$496bo6bo2bobo2b2o45bo117b2o$468bo
28b2o2b2o2bo5bo45bobo116b2o$468bo30b2o5bo2b2o23bo22bobo$466b2obo36bo
26bobo22bo$465b2o66bobo$464bo3bo65bo$465b3o4bo140bo$466bo3b2ob2o111bo
24bobo$472bo111bobo25b2o$470bo28b2o84b2o$499b2o3$559b2o$559b2o3$512bo$
513b2o$512b2o3$507b2o$507b2o3$567b2o$483b2o82b2o$483b2o58b2o$543b2o2$
464b2o$464b2o2$565bo117b2o$564bobo116b2o$541bo22bobo$540bobo22bo$540bo
bo$541bo8$566b2o$566b2o8$514b2o$514b2o3$574b2o$490b2o82b2o$490b2o58b2o
$550b2o2$461bo9b2o$460bo10b2o$460b3o$572bo117b2o$571bobo116b2o$548bo
22bobo$547bobo22bo$547bobo$548bo6$659bo$632bo24bobo$573b2o55bobo25b2o$
573b2o56b2o8$521b2o35bo$521b2o36b2o$558b2o2$581b2o$497b2o82b2o$497b2o
58b2o$557b2o2$478b2o$478b2o2$579bo117b2o$578bobo116b2o$555bo22bobo$
554bobo22bo$554bobo$555bo8$580b2o$580b2o8$528b2o$528b2o3$588b2o$504b2o
82b2o$504b2o58b2o$564b2o2$485b2o$485b2o2$704b2o$704b2o$429bo132bo$428b
o132bobo$428b3o130bobo$562bo10$430b2o$429b2o274bo$431bo246bo24bobo$
676bobo25b2o$677b2o$462b2o$461b2o$463bo71b2o$535b2o2$494b2o$493b2o100b
2o$495bo15b2o82b2o$511b2o58b2o$571b2o$526b2o$492b2o31b2o$492b2o33bo2$
711b2o$558b2o151b2o$557b2o10bo$559bo8bobo$568bobo$569bo$590b2o$589b2o$
591bo$708bo$706b2ob2o$622b2o85b2o$621b2o82bo3bobo$623bo$706bo$707b3o$
654b2o52b2o$653b2o48b2o$655bo$703bobo$704b2o$686b2o$542b2o141b2o$542b
2o143bo25bo$714b2o$713b2o$602b2o$518b2o82b2o$518b2o58b2o$578b2o2$499b
2o$499b2o211b2o$712b2o3$576bo153b2o$575bobo151bo2bo$575bobo152b2o$576b
o17$549b2o$549b2o3$609b2o$525b2o82b2o$525b2o58b2o$585b2o2$506b2o$506b
2o211b2o$719b2o3$583bo$582bobo85bo$582bobo84bo$583bo85b3o17$556b2o$
556b2o3$616b2o$532b2o82b2o$532b2o58b2o$592b2o2$513b2o$513b2o211b2o$
726b2o3$590bo$589bobo$589bobo$590bo17$563b2o$563b2o3$623b2o$539b2o82b
2o$539b2o58b2o$599b2o2$520b2o$520b2o211b2o$733b2o3$597bo$596bobo$596bo
bo$597bo3$638bo$637bo$637b3o12$570b2o$570b2o3$630b2o$546b2o82b2o$546b
2o58b2o$606b2o2$527b2o$527b2o211b2o$740b2o3$604bo$603bobo$603bobo$604b
o17$577b2o$577b2o3$637b2o$553b2o82b2o$553b2o58b2o$613b2o2$534b2o$534b
2o211b2o$747b2o23$584b2o$584b2o3$644b2o$560b2o82b2o$560b2o58b2o$620b2o
2$541b2o$541b2o211b2o$754b2o23$591b2o$591b2o3$651b2o$567b2o82b2o$567b
2o58b2o$627b2o2$548b2o$548b2o211b2o$761b2o23$598b2o$598b2o3$658b2o$
574b2o82b2o$574b2o58b2o$634b2o2$555b2o$555b2o211b2o$768b2o23$605b2o$
605b2o3$665b2o$581b2o82b2o$581b2o58b2o$641b2o2$562b2o$562b2o211b2o$
775b2o23$612b2o$612b2o3$672b2o$588b2o82b2o$588b2o58b2o$648b2o2$569b2o$
569b2o211b2o$782b2o23$619b2o$619b2o3$679b2o$595b2o82b2o$595b2o58b2o$
655b2o2$576b2o$576b2o211b2o$789b2o23$626b2o$626b2o3$686b2o$602b2o82b2o
$602b2o58b2o$662b2o2$583b2o$583b2o211b2o$796b2o23$633b2o$633b2o3$693b
2o$609b2o82b2o$609b2o58b2o$669b2o2$590b2o$590b2o211b2o$803b2o23$640b2o
$640b2o3$700b2o$616b2o82b2o$616b2o58b2o$676b2o2$597b2o$597b2o211b2o$
810b2o23$647b2o$647b2o3$707b2o$623b2o82b2o$623b2o58b2o$683b2o2$604b2o$
604b2o211b2o$817b2o23$654b2o$654b2o3$714b2o$630b2o82b2o$630b2o58b2o$
690b2o2$611b2o$611b2o211b2o$824b2o23$661b2o$661b2o3$721b2o$637b2o82b2o
$637b2o58b2o$697b2o2$618b2o$618b2o211b2o$831b2o23$668b2o$668b2o3$728b
2o$644b2o82b2o$644b2o58b2o$704b2o2$625b2o$625b2o211b2o$838b2o23$675b2o
$675b2o3$735b2o$651b2o82b2o$651b2o58b2o$711b2o2$632b2o$632b2o70b2o139b
2o$704b2o139b2o$705bo$696bo9bo$695b3o8b2o12b3o$694bo3bo5b5o10b4o$694b
2ob3o4bobobob3o5b2o2b2o$696b3o7bob5o6bob2o$697bobo3bo4b2o10b3o$698bo4b
o4bo12bo$702bo4bo$703bo$704bo3$704b2o$704b2o8$682b2o$682b2o2$721bo$
712b2o8b2o18b2o$658b2o52b2o7b2o19b2o$658b2o3$639b2o$639b2o211b2o$852b
2o$710bo$709bobo$709bobo$710bo10$711b2o$711b2o8$689b2o$689b2o3$719b2o
28b2o$665b2o52b2o28b2o$665b2o3$646b2o$646b2o211b2o$859b2o$717bo$716bob
o$716bobo$717bo2$662bo$661bo$661b3o6$718b2o$718b2o8$696b2o$696b2o3$
726b2o28b2o$672b2o52b2o28b2o$672b2o2$767bo$653b2o113b2o$653b2o112b2o
97b2o$866b2o$724bo$723bobo$723bobo$724bo10$725b2o$725b2o8$703b2o$703b
2o2$756bo$733b2o19b2ob2o$679b2o52b2o19b2ob2o$679b2o$754bo3b2o$758b2o2b
3o$660b2o91bo7b5o$660b2o91bo7bobo109b2o$752b2o7bo111b2o$656bo74bo20b5o
14b5o$655b2o73bobo20b2o17b3o$646b2o6bo2bo72bobo40bo$646bo4b2obo76bo11b
o6bo2bo$644bo7bo3bo87b2o4b2obo$644bo2bo3bobobobo5bo4b3o73b5o3bo$640bo
6b2obo6bo4b2o5b2o74bo2bo$639bo5bobo6b3o4b2o5b2o76b4obo$639b3o5bo7b2o5b
obo3bobo79bo$663b2o4b4o78bo$630bo33bo3bo2b2o$629bo38bob2o84b2o$629b3o
36b3o85b2o4$653b2o$653b2o5$710b2o$710b2o$764b2o$764b2o$678b3o59b2o$
677bo3bo58b2o$677b2ob2o$661b2o14b2obobo$661b2o18b2o3bo$681b4o3bo$671b
3o9b2o3bo73bo117b2o$668bo2bo4b2o5b2obo74bobo116b2o$668bo3bo5bo6bo9b3o
40bo22bobo$678bo15bo3bo38bobo22bo50bo$694bo3bo38bobo46bo27b2o$676b2o
17b3o40bo48b2o24b2o$667bo5b3o110b2o$666bo3bob3obo33b3o$670b3ob2o33bo$
667bo41bo2bo$669b5o36b2o$670b5o35b2o$709bo2bo$712bo50b2o$679b2o28b2o
52b2o$679b2o7$711b2o$711b2o3$771b2o$687b2o82b2o$687b2o58b2o$747b2o$
709bo$668b2o38bobo$668b2o38bobo$709bo$769bo117b2o$768bobo116b2o$745bo
22bobo$744bobo22bo$744bobo$710bo34bo$709bobo$710b2o$710bo$710bo$710bo
3$608bo161b2o$607bo162b2o$607b3o2$598bo$597bo$597b3o2$675bobo$675b2o
41b2o$676bo41b2o3$778b2o$694b2o82b2o$694b2o58b2o$754b2o2$675b2o$675b2o
2$776bo117b2o$775bobo116b2o$752bo22bobo$751bobo22bo$751bobo$752bo3$
859bo$832bo27b2o$833b2o24b2o$752bo79b2o$753bo$751b3o23b2o$777b2o8$725b
2o$725b2o3$785b2o$701b2o82b2o$701b2o58b2o$761b2o2$682b2o$682b2o2$783bo
117b2o$782bobo116b2o$759bo22bobo$758bobo22bo$758bobo$759bo8$784b2o$
784b2o4$576bo$575bo$575b3o2$566bo165b2o$565bo166b2o$565b3o2$643bobo
146b2o$643b2o63b2o82b2o$644bo63b2o58b2o$768b2o2$689b2o$689b2o2$908b2o$
908b2o$766bo$765bobo$765bobo$766bo3$572b3o$572bo$573bo3$604b3o298bo$
604bo273bo27b2o$605bo273b2o24b2o$878b2o2$636b3o$636bo$637bo2$739b2o$
668b3o68b2o$668bo$669bo$799b2o$715b2o82b2o$700b3o12b2o58b2o$700bo74b2o
$569bo131bo$568bobo125b2o$568bobo125b2o$569bo162b3o$732bo182b2o$733bo
181b2o$773bo$772bobo$764b3o5bobo$764bo8bo$765bo3$796b3o$796bo$797bo3$
828b3o81bo$828bo82b3o$829bo80b2o2bo$910bob3o$910b2o$860b3o$860bo54bo$
861bo54bo$746b2o166b3o$746b2o$892b3o$892bo$806b2o85bo$534bo187b2o82b2o
$533bo188b2o58b2o$533b3o246b2o$576bo$575bobo33bobo89b2o$575bobo33b2o
90b2o211b2o$576bo35bo303b2o3$780bo153b2o$779bobo151bo2bo$779bobo152b2o
$780bo3$915bo$904b2o9b2o$917bo$915bob2o$902bo11bo2bo$902bo11bobo$912b
2obo$908b2obo2bo$909bo3bo$910b3o$911bo4$753b2o$753b2o3$813b2o$729b2o
82b2o$729b2o58b2o$789b2o$583bo$582bobo125b2o$582bobo125b2o211b2o$583bo
339b2o2$876bobo$787bo88b2o$786bobo88bo$786bobo$787bo17$760b2o$760b2o3$
820b2o$736b2o82b2o$736b2o58b2o$796b2o2$717b2o$502bo214b2o211b2o$501bo
428b2o$501b3o2$794bo$793bobo$793bobo$794bo17$767b2o$767b2o3$827b2o$
743b2o82b2o$743b2o58b2o$803b2o2$724b2o$724b2o211b2o$937b2o3$801bo$800b
obo$800bobo$801bo$844bobo$844b2o$845bo14$774b2o$774b2o3$834b2o$750b2o
82b2o$750b2o58b2o$810b2o2$731b2o$731b2o211b2o$944b2o3$808bo$807bobo$
807bobo$808bo17$781b2o$781b2o3$841b2o$757b2o82b2o$757b2o58b2o$817b2o2$
738b2o$738b2o211b2o$951b2o23$788b2o$788b2o3$848b2o$764b2o82b2o$764b2o
58b2o$824b2o2$745b2o$745b2o211b2o$958b2o23$795b2o$795b2o3$855b2o$771b
2o82b2o$771b2o58b2o$831b2o2$752b2o$752b2o211b2o$965b2o23$802b2o$802b2o
3$862b2o$778b2o82b2o$778b2o58b2o$838b2o2$759b2o$759b2o211b2o$972b2o23$
809b2o$809b2o3$869b2o$785b2o82b2o$785b2o58b2o$845b2o2$766b2o$766b2o
211b2o$979b2o23$816b2o$816b2o3$876b2o$792b2o82b2o$792b2o58b2o$852b2o2$
773b2o$773b2o211b2o$986b2o23$823b2o$823b2o3$883b2o$799b2o82b2o$799b2o
58b2o$859b2o2$780b2o$780b2o211b2o$993b2o23$830b2o$830b2o3$890b2o$806b
2o82b2o$806b2o58b2o$866b2o2$787b2o$787b2o211b2o$1000b2o!
Iteration of sigma(n)+tau(n)-n [sigma(n)+tau(n)-n : OEIS A163163] (e.g. 16,20,28,34,24,44,46,30,50,49,11,3,3, ...) :
965808 is period 336 (max = 207085118608).
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Re: (34,7)c/156 caterpillar

Postby dvgrn » January 5th, 2019, 2:22 pm

AbhpzTa wrote:6-trail forerake/rephaser/backrake...

Wow! That definitely seems like a huge improvement on the previous rough 8-trail idea.

Looks like the trails are sparse enough that there are multiple paths where gliders could find their way all the way across without additional special-purpose rephasers, either left-to-right or right-to-left.
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Re: (34,7)c/156 caterpillar

Postby AforAmpere » January 5th, 2019, 2:28 pm

Do we have a helix or a way to get the helix for this? I want to aid this project in some way, if I can.
Things to work on:
- Find a (7,1)c/8 ship in a Non-totalistic rule (someone please search the rules)
- Find a C/10 in JustFriends
- Find a C/10 in Day and Night
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Re: (34,7)c/156 caterpillar

Postby 77topaz » January 5th, 2019, 4:10 pm

I think the people who created the original Caterpillar had a script that could find helices of arbitrary periods/displacements. I don't know if that extended to oblique displacements, though.
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Re: (34,7)c/156 caterpillar

Postby dvgrn » January 5th, 2019, 4:33 pm

77topaz wrote:I think the people who created the original Caterpillar had a script that could find helices of arbitrary periods/displacements. I don't know if that extended to oblique displacements, though.

The extension to oblique displacements definitely happened for the waterbear.

It looks like oblique's extended collisions database is still out there on DropBox, waiting to be downloaded. It's possible to use those pieces, as codeholic did, to string together any speed helix you might want, orthogonal or oblique.

Not sure if all that data is actually needed or not, though. It looks like codeholic checked in a workable 'helix' search program to github, and it may be self-contained. Somebody might have to download an old version of Golly that supports Perl, though, and/or port build-helix.pl to Python or Lua (!).

For a general summary of helices, climbers, and filters (oh, my!) see biggiemac's post here.
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Re: (34,7)c/156 caterpillar

Postby AforAmpere » January 5th, 2019, 4:53 pm

Where is the best place to download Perl? I never used it when it was an option.
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Re: (34,7)c/156 caterpillar

Postby dvgrn » January 5th, 2019, 6:41 pm

AforAmpere wrote:Where is the best place to download Perl? I never used it when it was an option.

I remember Strawberry Perl working without any issues for me, on Windows.
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Re: (34,7)c/156 caterpillar

Postby AforAmpere » January 5th, 2019, 7:28 pm

For some reason I can't download it. It gets to the end, but never actually finishes.
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Re: (34,7)c/156 caterpillar

Postby Sphenocorona » January 5th, 2019, 8:14 pm

Since this ship will travel slower than c/4 orthogonally, it actually might not be necessary to make a self-sustaining helix - it should be possible to throw forward gliders at a forwards stream of spaceships, sending back forward gliders and sideways xWSSs to build the start of the tracks.

However, to be able to know with certainty which method will be best for the ship, we need to figure out how many glider or block fuses we actually need to produce from these methods in order to generate the new 6-trail climber track.
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Re: (34,7)c/156 caterpillar

Postby Hunting » January 6th, 2019, 12:09 am

I also want to contribute to this new project. What can I do?

EDIT: Working on!
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* Rule Y Orthogonoid

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x = 4, y = 6, rule = B2e3i4at/S1c23cijn4a
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Re: (34,7)c/156 caterpillar

Postby dvgrn » January 7th, 2019, 4:17 pm

Hunting wrote:I also want to contribute to this new project. What can I do?

"Start experimenting" would be my vote. Oblique spaceship construction is mind-bending stuff, but the more you work with it the more familiar it gets.

Start out with AbhpzTa's forerake/backrake/rephaser toolkit, and just for practice see if you can stack forerakes and backrakes in such a way as to crash gliders together to make another 6-block-trail caterpillar track off to the left somewhere. Put it a safe distance away, and get the block spacings to be just like the original so that rakes and rephasers can be run on it. Never know, that might come in handy.

This is going to be a relatively slow caterpillar, so we might be able to get away with doing a lot of things with glider streams reaching forward to the front. So another thing to experiment with is spacings between back- and forerakes that produce a forward or backward glider stream that can cross those six block trails safely (with some amount of rephasing between the rakes or after the forerake, if necessary.)

Then see if the same trick can be done with these new rightward rakes, to build a new caterpillar track to the right of the current one. Backrakes running on two or more tracks might be one sensible way of cleaning up block trails at the end of the spaceship -- each track producing gliders to shoot down another track's blocks.

When you know where you can reach with streams of gliders, try to come up with a way to collide gliders-or-somethings to build the front end of the track. The blocks can be built any distance in front, in any order as long as subsequent blocks can be built without existing ones getting in the way. Maybe the front end will end up looking like this

x = 238, y = 481, rule = B3/S23
11b2o$11b2o31$42b2o$42b2o$18b2o$18b2o31$49b2o$49b2o$25b2o$25b2o3$159b
2o$159b2o27$56b2o$56b2o$32b2o$32b2o3$166b2o$166b2o23$3b2o$3b2o3$63b2o$
63b2o$39b2o$39b2o3$173b2o$173b2o23$10b2o$10b2o3$70b2o$70b2o$46b2o$46b
2o3$180b2o$180b2o23$17b2o$17b2o3$77b2o$77b2o$53b2o$53b2o3$187b2o$187b
2o23$24b2o$24b2o3$84b2o$2o82b2o$2o58b2o$60b2o3$194b2o$194b2o23$31b2o$
31b2o3$91b2o$7b2o82b2o$7b2o58b2o$67b2o3$201b2o$201b2o23$38b2o$38b2o3$
98b2o$14b2o82b2o$14b2o58b2o$74b2o3$208b2o$208b2o23$45b2o$45b2o3$105b2o
$21b2o82b2o$21b2o58b2o$81b2o2$2b2o$2b2o211b2o$215b2o23$52b2o$52b2o3$
112b2o$28b2o82b2o$28b2o58b2o$88b2o2$9b2o$9b2o211b2o$222b2o23$59b2o$59b
2o3$119b2o$35b2o82b2o$35b2o58b2o$95b2o2$16b2o$16b2o211b2o$229b2o23$66b
2o$66b2o3$126b2o$42b2o82b2o$42b2o58b2o$102b2o2$23b2o$23b2o211b2o$236b
2o23$73b2o$73b2o3$133b2o$49b2o82b2o$49b2o58b2o$109b2o2$30b2o$30b2o!

or maybe like this
x = 234, y = 954, rule = B3/S23
36b2o$36b2o33$43b2o$43b2o33$50b2o$50b2o33$57b2o$57b2o33$64b2o$64b2o33$
71b2o$71b2o33$78b2o$78b2o33$85b2o$85b2o33$92b2o$92b2o33$99b2o$99b2o33$
106b2o$106b2o27$3b2o$3b2o5$113b2o$113b2o27$10b2o$10b2o5$120b2o$120b2o
27$17b2o$17b2o5$127b2o$127b2o27$24b2o$24b2o$2o$2o3$134b2o$134b2o27$31b
2o$31b2o$7b2o$7b2o3$141b2o$141b2o27$38b2o$38b2o$14b2o$14b2o3$148b2o$
148b2o27$45b2o$45b2o$21b2o$21b2o3$155b2o$155b2o27$52b2o$52b2o$28b2o$
28b2o3$162b2o$162b2o27$59b2o$59b2o$35b2o$35b2o3$169b2o$169b2o23$6b2o$
6b2o3$66b2o$66b2o$42b2o$42b2o3$176b2o$176b2o23$13b2o$13b2o3$73b2o$73b
2o$49b2o$49b2o3$183b2o$183b2o23$20b2o$20b2o3$80b2o$80b2o$56b2o$56b2o3$
190b2o$190b2o23$27b2o$27b2o3$87b2o$3b2o82b2o$3b2o58b2o$63b2o3$197b2o$
197b2o23$34b2o$34b2o3$94b2o$10b2o82b2o$10b2o58b2o$70b2o3$204b2o$204b2o
23$41b2o$41b2o3$101b2o$17b2o82b2o$17b2o58b2o$77b2o3$211b2o$211b2o23$
48b2o$48b2o3$108b2o$24b2o82b2o$24b2o58b2o$84b2o2$5b2o$5b2o211b2o$218b
2o23$55b2o$55b2o3$115b2o$31b2o82b2o$31b2o58b2o$91b2o2$12b2o$12b2o211b
2o$225b2o23$62b2o$62b2o3$122b2o$38b2o82b2o$38b2o58b2o$98b2o2$19b2o$19b
2o211b2o$232b2o!

-- just have to pick something that works.

Also, don't get too excited when you think you've found something useful. Half of what I've said above is probably wrong in some way (but it would be very good practice to work on figuring out why it's wrong.) The reality of this kind of project is that 99% of the ideas end up not getting used, even if they theoretically could be used -- because a better idea comes along later. But the people that end up solving all the problems are usually the ones who jump in and start trying to put the pieces together.
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Re: (34,7)c/156 caterpillar

Postby dvgrn » January 7th, 2019, 4:50 pm

dvgrn wrote:Half of what I've said above is probably wrong in some way (but it would be very good practice to work on figuring out why it's wrong.)

-- Yeah, so here's the first thing I was wrong about.

When you put forerakes and backrakes together and try to produce new stream-crossing forerakes with a standard kickback, you run into a little problem:

x = 805, y = 2923, rule = B3/S23
2o$2o211b2o$213b2o23$50b2o$50b2o3$110b2o$26b2o82b2o$26b2o58b2o$86b2o2$
7b2o$7b2o211b2o$220b2o23$57b2o$57b2o3$117b2o$33b2o82b2o$33b2o58b2o$93b
2o2$14b2o$14b2o211b2o$227b2o23$64b2o$64b2o3$124b2o$40b2o82b2o$40b2o58b
2o$100b2o2$21b2o$21b2o211b2o$234b2o23$71b2o$71b2o3$131b2o$47b2o82b2o$
47b2o58b2o$107b2o2$28b2o$28b2o211b2o$241b2o23$78b2o$78b2o3$138b2o$54b
2o82b2o$54b2o58b2o$114b2o2$35b2o$35b2o211b2o$248b2o23$85b2o$85b2o3$
145b2o$61b2o82b2o$61b2o58b2o$121b2o2$42b2o$42b2o211b2o$255b2o23$92b2o$
92b2o3$152b2o$68b2o82b2o$68b2o58b2o$128b2o2$49b2o$49b2o211b2o$262b2o
23$99b2o$99b2o3$159b2o$75b2o82b2o$75b2o58b2o$135b2o2$56b2o$56b2o211b2o
$269b2o23$106b2o$106b2o3$166b2o$82b2o82b2o$82b2o58b2o$142b2o2$63b2o$
63b2o211b2o$276b2o23$113b2o$113b2o3$173b2o$89b2o82b2o$89b2o58b2o$149b
2o2$70b2o$70b2o211b2o$283b2o23$120b2o$120b2o3$180b2o$96b2o82b2o$96b2o
58b2o$156b2o2$77b2o$77b2o211b2o$290b2o23$127b2o$127b2o3$187b2o$103b2o
82b2o$103b2o58b2o$163b2o2$84b2o$84b2o211b2o$297b2o23$134b2o$134b2o3$
194b2o$110b2o82b2o$110b2o58b2o$170b2o2$91b2o$91b2o211b2o$304b2o23$141b
2o$141b2o3$201b2o$117b2o82b2o$117b2o58b2o$177b2o2$98b2o$98b2o211b2o$
311b2o23$148b2o$148b2o3$208b2o$124b2o82b2o$124b2o58b2o$184b2o2$105b2o$
105b2o211b2o$318b2o23$155b2o$155b2o3$215b2o$131b2o82b2o$131b2o58b2o$
191b2o2$112b2o$112b2o211b2o$325b2o23$162b2o$162b2o3$222b2o$138b2o82b2o
$138b2o58b2o$198b2o2$119b2o$119b2o211b2o$332b2o23$169b2o$169b2o3$229b
2o$145b2o82b2o$145b2o58b2o$205b2o2$126b2o$126b2o211b2o$339b2o23$176b2o
$176b2o3$236b2o$152b2o82b2o$152b2o58b2o$212b2o2$133b2o$133b2o211b2o$
346b2o23$183b2o$183b2o3$243b2o$159b2o82b2o$159b2o58b2o$219b2o2$140b2o$
140b2o211b2o$353b2o23$190b2o$190b2o3$250b2o$166b2o82b2o$166b2o58b2o$
226b2o2$147b2o$147b2o211b2o$360b2o23$197b2o$197b2o3$257b2o$173b2o82b2o
$173b2o58b2o$233b2o2$154b2o$154b2o211b2o$367b2o23$204b2o$204b2o3$264b
2o$180b2o82b2o$180b2o58b2o$240b2o2$161b2o$161b2o211b2o$374b2o23$211b2o
$211b2o3$271b2o$187b2o82b2o$187b2o58b2o$247b2o2$168b2o$168b2o211b2o$
381b2o23$218b2o$218b2o3$278b2o$194b2o82b2o$194b2o58b2o$254b2o2$175b2o$
175b2o211b2o$388b2o23$225b2o$225b2o3$285b2o$201b2o82b2o$201b2o58b2o$
261b2o2$182b2o$182b2o211b2o$395b2o23$232b2o$232b2o3$292b2o$208b2o82b2o
$208b2o58b2o$268b2o2$189b2o$189b2o211b2o$402b2o23$239b2o$239b2o3$299b
2o$215b2o82b2o$215b2o58b2o$275b2o2$196b2o$196b2o211b2o$409b2o23$246b2o
$246b2o3$306b2o$222b2o82b2o$222b2o58b2o$282b2o2$203b2o$203b2o211b2o$
416b2o23$253b2o$253b2o3$313b2o$229b2o82b2o$229b2o58b2o$289b2o2$210b2o$
210b2o211b2o$423b2o23$260b2o$260b2o3$320b2o$236b2o82b2o$236b2o58b2o$
296b2o2$217b2o$217b2o211b2o$430b2o23$267b2o$267b2o3$327b2o$243b2o82b2o
$243b2o58b2o$303b2o2$224b2o$224b2o211b2o$437b2o23$274b2o$274b2o3$334b
2o$250b2o82b2o$250b2o58b2o$310b2o2$231b2o$231b2o211b2o$444b2o23$281b2o
$281b2o3$341b2o$257b2o82b2o$257b2o58b2o$317b2o2$238b2o$238b2o211b2o$
451b2o23$288b2o$288b2o3$348b2o$264b2o82b2o$264b2o58b2o$324b2o2$245b2o$
245b2o211b2o$458b2o23$295b2o$295b2o3$355b2o$271b2o82b2o$271b2o58b2o$
331b2o2$252b2o$252b2o211b2o$465b2o23$302b2o$302b2o3$362b2o$278b2o82b2o
$278b2o58b2o$338b2o2$259b2o$259b2o211b2o$472b2o23$309b2o$309b2o3$369b
2o$285b2o82b2o$285b2o58b2o$345b2o2$266b2o$266b2o211b2o$479b2o23$316b2o
$316b2o3$376b2o$292b2o82b2o$292b2o58b2o$352b2o2$273b2o$273b2o211b2o$
486b2o23$323b2o$323b2o3$383b2o$299b2o82b2o$299b2o58b2o$359b2o2$280b2o$
280b2o211b2o$493b2o23$330b2o$330b2o3$390b2o$306b2o82b2o$306b2o58b2o$
366b2o2$287b2o$287b2o211b2o$500b2o23$337b2o$337b2o3$397b2o$313b2o82b2o
$313b2o58b2o$373b2o2$294b2o$294b2o211b2o$507b2o23$344b2o$344b2o3$404b
2o$320b2o82b2o$320b2o58b2o$380b2o2$301b2o$301b2o211b2o$514b2o23$351b2o
$351b2o3$411b2o$327b2o82b2o$327b2o58b2o$387b2o2$308b2o$308b2o211b2o$
521b2o23$358b2o$358b2o3$418b2o$334b2o82b2o$334b2o58b2o$394b2o2$315b2o$
315b2o211b2o$528b2o23$365b2o$365b2o3$425b2o$341b2o82b2o$341b2o58b2o$
401b2o2$322b2o$322b2o211b2o$535b2o23$372b2o$372b2o3$432b2o$348b2o82b2o
$348b2o58b2o$408b2o2$329b2o$329b2o211b2o$542b2o23$379b2o$379b2o3$439b
2o$355b2o82b2o$355b2o58b2o$415b2o2$336b2o$336b2o211b2o$549b2o23$386b2o
$386b2o3$446b2o$362b2o82b2o$362b2o58b2o$422b2o2$343b2o$343b2o211b2o$
556b2o23$393b2o$393b2o2$422b2o$422bo30b2o$369b2o53bo28b2o$369b2o52b2o$
424bo2$350b2o$350b2o211b2o$563b2o$438b3o$438b3o$419b3o17bo$421bo17bo$
419b3o16b3o$419bo18b3o$419b2o$413bobo$412bo2bo2$416bo2$414bobo$422b2o$
422b2o$398bo$396b2o$397b2o5$400b2o$400b2o3$430b2o28b2o$376b2o52b2o28b
2o$376b2o3$357b2o$357b2o211b2o$570b2o$428bo$427bobo$427bobo$428bo3$
455bo$453bobo$454b2o5$429b2o$429b2o8$407b2o$407b2o3$437b2o28b2o$383b2o
52b2o28b2o$383b2o3$364b2o$364b2o211b2o$577b2o$435bo$434bobo$434bobo$
435bo10$436b2o$436b2o6$366bo$364b2o$365b2o47b2o$414b2o3$444b2o28b2o$
390b2o52b2o28b2o$390b2o3$371b2o$371b2o211b2o$584b2o$442bo$441bobo$441b
obo$442bo4$471bo$470b3o$469bo2b2o$469bo$470bo30bo$474bo24bobo$443b2o
27bobo25b2o$443b2o28b2o8$421b2o$421b2o$475b2o$371b3o101b2o$371bo2bo76b
2o$371bob2o22b2o52b2o$397b2o4$473bo117b2o$472bobo116b2o$449bo22bobo$
448bobo22bo$448bobo$370bo78bo$369bobo$369bobo$370bo2$393b3o$393bo2bo$
392bo2b2o$392b2o80b2o$474b2o$396bo$397b2o$396b2o$371b2o$371b2o2b2o$
374b2o$376bo2$344bo$342b2o84b2o$343b2o83b2o$482b2o$334bo63b2o82b2o$
332b2o64b2o21b2o35b2o$333b2o86b2o35b2o$422bo$379b2o32bo9bo$379b2o31b3o
8b2o12b3o$411bo3bo5b5o10b4o$411b2ob3o4bobobob3o5b2o2b2o39bo117b2o$413b
3o7bob5o6bob2o39bobo116b2o$384bo29bobo3bo4b2o10b3o16bo22bobo$383bo2bo
10bo17bo4bo4bo12bo16bobo22bo$387bo8bobo20bo4bo30bobo$382bo4bo11bo20bo
35bo$397b3o21bo$383bobo11bobo$384bo11bobo$391bo3bobo23b2o$390bo2b2obo
24b2o$391bobobo$392b3o$481b2o$481b2o4$547bo$520bo24bobo$518bobo25b2o$
438bo80b2o$429b2o8b2o$429b2o7b2o3$489b2o$405b2o82b2o$405b2o58b2o$465b
2o2$386b2o$386b2o2$487bo117b2o$486bobo116b2o$463bo22bobo$462bobo22bo$
462bobo$463bo8$488b2o$488b2o8$436b2o$436b2o3$496b2o$412b2o82b2o$312bo
99b2o58b2o$310b2o160b2o$311b2o$393b2o$302bo90b2o$300b2o$301b2o191bo
117b2o$379bo113bobo116b2o$378bo91bo22bobo$378b3o88bobo22bo$469bobo$
470bo8$495b2o$495b2o8$443b2o$443b2o148bo$566bo24bobo$564bobo25b2o$484b
o18b2o60b2o$419b2o64b2o16b2o$419b2o58b2o3b2o$479b2o2$400b2o$400b2o2$
501bo117b2o$500bobo116b2o$477bo22bobo$476bobo22bo$476bobo$477bo8$502b
2o$502b2o8$450b2o$450b2o3$510b2o$426b2o82b2o$426b2o58b2o$486b2o$280bo$
279bobo125b2o$279bobo26b2o97b2o$280bo26b2o$309bo316b2o$626b2o$484bo$
270bo69b2o141bobo$268b2o69b2o142bobo$269b2o70bo142bo$347bo$346bo$346b
3o23b2o$371b2o$373bo3$404b2o$403b2o$405bo3$436b2o$435b2o$437bo2$457b2o
$457b2o9b2o$467b2o$469bo$517b2o$433b2o82b2o$433b2o58b2o5b2o137bo$493b
2o4b2o111bo24bobo$287bo213bo108bobo25b2o$286bobo125b2o195b2o$286bobo
125b2o$287bo244b2o$531b2o100b2o$533bo99b2o$491bo$490bobo137bo$490bobo
71b2o59b3o2bo$491bo71b2o60bobo2bo$565bo51b5o3bo3bo$621b2o3b5o11bo$617b
4o6b2obobob4o4bo$596b2o20bo11b2ob2ob2o3bobo$595b2o15bo6b2o12bo3bo3bo$
597bo13bo7b2o11b3o6b3o$611b3o24b2o2b2o$636b3o4b2o$636b2obo3b2o$640b3ob
2o$641b4o$642b2o2$626b2o$626b2o2$464b2o$464b2o3$524b2o$440b2o82b2o$
440b2o58b2o$500b2o$294bo$293bobo125b2o$293bobo125b2o211b2o$294bo339b2o
2$647bo$498bo149b2o2b2o$497bobo147b2o2bo2bo$497bobo152b2o$498bo3$238bo
$236b2o$237b2o$315bo$314bo$314b3o9$471b2o$471b2o3$531b2o$447b2o82b2o$
447b2o58b2o$507b2o$301bo$300bobo125b2o$300bobo125b2o211b2o$301bo339b2o
3$505bo$504bobo$504bobo$505bo10$580bo$579bo$579b3o5$478b2o$478b2o3$
538b2o$454b2o82b2o$454b2o58b2o$514b2o2$435b2o$435b2o211b2o$648b2o3$
512bo$511bobo$511bobo$512bo8$206bo$204b2o$205b2o7$485b2o$485b2o3$545b
2o$461b2o82b2o$461b2o58b2o$521b2o2$442b2o$442b2o211b2o$655b2o3$519bo$
518bobo$518bobo$519bo15$548bo$547bo$492b2o53b3o$492b2o3$552b2o$468b2o
82b2o$468b2o58b2o$528b2o2$449b2o$449b2o211b2o$662b2o3$526bo$525bobo$
525bobo$526bo13$174bo$172b2o$173b2o2$499b2o$499b2o3$559b2o$475b2o82b2o
$475b2o58b2o$535b2o2$456b2o$456b2o211b2o$669b2o23$506b2o$506b2o3$566b
2o$482b2o82b2o$482b2o58b2o$542b2o2$463b2o$463b2o211b2o$676b2o23$513b2o
$142bo370b2o$140b2o$141b2o$573b2o$489b2o82b2o$489b2o58b2o$549b2o2$470b
2o$470b2o211b2o$683b2o23$520b2o$520b2o3$580b2o$496b2o82b2o$496b2o58b2o
$556b2o2$477b2o$477b2o211b2o$690b2o23$527b2o$527b2o3$587b2o$503b2o82b
2o$503b2o58b2o$563b2o2$484b2o$484b2o70b2o139b2o$556b2o139b2o$557bo$
548bo9bo$547b3o8b2o12b3o$546bo3bo5b5o10b4o$546b2ob3o4bobobob3o5b2o2b2o
$548b3o7bob5o6bob2o$549bobo3bo4b2o10b3o$550bo4bo4bo12bo$554bo4bo$555bo
$556bo3$556b2o$556b2o8$534b2o$534b2o2$573bo$564b2o8b2o18b2o$510b2o52b
2o7b2o19b2o$510b2o3$491b2o$491b2o211b2o$704b2o$562bo$561bobo$561bobo$
562bo10$563b2o$563b2o8$541b2o$541b2o3$571b2o28b2o$517b2o52b2o28b2o$
517b2o3$498b2o$498b2o211b2o$711b2o$569bo$568bobo$568bobo$569bo2$514bo$
513bo$513b3o6$570b2o$570b2o8$548b2o$548b2o3$578b2o28b2o$524b2o52b2o28b
2o$524b2o2$619bo$505b2o113b2o$505b2o112b2o97b2o$718b2o$576bo$575bobo$
575bobo$576bo10$577b2o$577b2o8$555b2o$555b2o2$608bo$585b2o19b2ob2o$
531b2o52b2o19b2ob2o$531b2o$606bo3b2o$610b2o2b3o$605bo7b5o$501b5o99bo7b
obo109b2o$499b2o3bobob2o94b2o7bo111b2o$499b2o5bo5bo70bo20b5o14b5o$501b
ob4o2b2o2bo68bobo20b2o17b3o$504bo3bo2bob2o3bo63bobo40bo$496bo12b2o3b2o
2bo64bo11bo6bo2bo$496b3o10bob2ob2o2bo3b3o71b2o4b2obo$487bo7bob3o8bo2b
7o78b5o3bo$486bobo3b2o5b2o7bob7o80bo2bo$486bobo6bo2b2obo6bo3bo85b4obo$
487bo7b3o4bo9bo89bo$495b3o4b2o9b2o88bo$499b4o10bo$499b3o9bobo94b2o$
499b2o11bo95b2o4$505b2o$505b2o$532bo$531b3o$530b2o2bo$530bo3bo$530bobo
29b2o$562b2o$531b2ob2o80b2o$533bo82b2o$518b2o72b2o$517b2o73b2o$519bo$
513b2o$513b2o2$614bo117b2o$558b3o52bobo116b2o$558bo2bo28bo22bobo$556b
2o2b2o27bobo22bo50bo$555bo5bo27bobo46bo27b2o$524bo6b2o25b3o29bo48b2o
24b2o$523bobo4bo2bo21b2o81b2o$494bo28bobo4bo2bo21bo2b3o$493bobo28bo5bo
bo23bo2bo$493bobo31b4o25b2o$494bo32bo2b2o$528b3o$529bo33bo$564b2o49b2o
$531b2o30b2o50b2o$531b2o7$563b2o$563b2o3$623b2o$539b2o82b2o$539b2o58b
2o$599b2o$561bo$520b2o38bobo$520b2o37b2o$559b2o$559b3o59bo117b2o$559b
3o58bobo116b2o$560bobo34bo22bobo$561bo34bobo22bo$596bobo$597bo2$501bo$
500bobo$500bobo$501bo3$622b2o$622b2o8$570b2o$570b2o3$522bo107b2o$521bo
24b2o82b2o$521b3o22b2o58b2o$606b2o2$527b2o$527b2o2$628bo117b2o$627bobo
116b2o$604bo22bobo$603bobo22bo$603bobo$604bo2$508bo$507bobo201bo$507bo
bo174bo27b2o$508bo176b2o24b2o$684b2o2$629b2o$629b2o3$609bo$610b2o$609b
2o3$577b2o$577b2o3$637b2o$553b2o82b2o$553b2o58b2o$613b2o2$534b2o$534b
2o2$635bo117b2o$634bobo116b2o$611bo22bobo$610bobo22bo$610bobo$611bo8$
636b2o$636b2o3$264b3o$264bo$265bo3$296b3o285b2o$296bo287b2o$297bo2$
644b2o$328b3o229b2o82b2o$328bo231b2o58b2o$329bo290b2o2$541b2o$360b3o
178b2o$360bo$361bo398b2o$760b2o$618bo$392b3o222bobo$392bo224bobo$393bo
224bo3$424b3o$424bo$425bo3$456b3o298bo$456bo273bo27b2o$457bo273b2o24b
2o$730b2o2$488b3o$488bo$489bo2$591b2o$520b3o68b2o$520bo$521bo$651b2o$
567b2o82b2o$552b3o12b2o58b2o$552bo74b2o$553bo$548b2o$548b2o$584b3o$
584bo182b2o$585bo181b2o$625bo$624bobo$616b3o5bobo$616bo8bo$617bo3$648b
3o$648bo$649bo3$680b3o81bo$680bo82b3o$681bo80b2o2bo$762bob3o$762b2o$
712b3o$712bo54bo$713bo54bo$598b2o166b3o$598b2o$744b3o$744bo$658b2o85bo
$574b2o82b2o$574b2o58b2o$634b2o2$555b2o$555b2o211b2o$768b2o3$632bo153b
2o$631bobo151bo2bo$631bobo152b2o$632bo3$767bo$756b2o9b2o$769bo$767bob
2o$754bo11bo2bo$754bo11bobo$764b2obo$760b2obo2bo$761bo3bo$762b3o$763bo
4$605b2o$605b2o3$665b2o$581b2o82b2o$581b2o58b2o$641b2o2$562b2o$562b2o
211b2o$775b2o2$728bobo$639bo88b2o$638bobo88bo$638bobo$639bo17$612b2o$
612b2o3$672b2o$588b2o82b2o$588b2o58b2o$648b2o2$569b2o$569b2o211b2o$
782b2o3$646bo$645bobo$645bobo$646bo17$619b2o$619b2o3$679b2o$595b2o82b
2o$595b2o58b2o$655b2o2$576b2o$576b2o211b2o$789b2o3$653bo$652bobo$652bo
bo$653bo$696bobo$696b2o$697bo14$626b2o$626b2o3$686b2o$602b2o82b2o$602b
2o58b2o$662b2o2$583b2o$583b2o211b2o$796b2o3$660bo$659bobo$659bobo$660b
o17$633b2o$633b2o3$693b2o$609b2o82b2o$609b2o58b2o$669b2o2$590b2o$590b
2o211b2o$803b2o!

Probably this is already well known somewhere or other, but the point is to build the patterns and experiment with them.

In Golly, select the whole forerake in the above pattern -- all the trailing gliders included, plus a little space to the south. Then hit Ctrl+Space to advance the forerake phase by one. -- But make sure the selection doesn't cross through the middle of any blocks! That kills the blocks, and then you get horrible mysterious crashes later on when you've forgotten all about advancing this selection.

Run the pattern again. What happens differently? Ctrl+Z undo back to the original selection and try Shift+Space to slow down the forerake instead of speeding it up. What other constellations can be built? How many ways can blocks be built, and what exactly is the difference in location between them?

If you slow the forerake _way_ down so that gliders start hitting the next forerake glider -- the one after the one they're currently hitting -- what can you build then? Why is this a different set of constellations from the ones that were available before? In particular, how come you can't get a kickback between those two sets of gliders? (This is a really important detail, so figure this out thoroughly before you go on to anything more complicated.)

Are there any paths for forward LWSSes through the block trails? (Nope, not a chance.) How about sideways *WSSes? (Sure, easy.) How about backwards gliders produced by a kickback? That works better than frontwards, anyway, but can they get through the block trails? (Yes, but not if you just advance the forerake above by 34 ticks.) How can you change the kicked-back glider stream's lane to fix that problem? (Lots of ways. See how many options you can find, and see below for ideas.)

What happens if you use shift.lua to move the original forerake (and the block trails above it) a distance of (7,34) -- or "7 34" as shift.py prefers it? Can you still produce kickback gliders by adjusting the forerake phase by short distances? Why or why not? How about a shift of "14 68"?

What happens if you move the forerake by "-70 -340", drop in a rephaser between the forerake and backrake, and carefully patch up the block trails so that all the trails are complete? (If you don't do this exactly right, you'll have lots of mystifying problems until you figure out what's going on.)

Extra challenge stage: Is there some weird clever way of running some kind of broken rake/rephaser on five of the six block trails, that builds a block in the sixth trail position?
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Re: (34,7)c/156 caterpillar

Postby Sphenocorona » January 7th, 2019, 8:31 pm

Here's a few other ways of cleaning up a climber's stabilized debris with a single incoming ship:
x = 68, y = 295, rule = B3/S23
9b2o$9b2o26$15b2o$15b2o7$13bo$12bobo18bo$12bobo16bo3bo$13bo16bo$30bo4b
o$30b5o8$14b2o$14b2o8$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobo11$23b2o$23b2o12$31b2o$31b2o2$47bo2bo$46bo$46bo3bo$46b4o2$29bo$
28bobo$28bobo$29bo10$30b2o$30b2o12$38b2o$38b2o7$36bo$35bobo$35bobo$36b
o10$37b2o$37b2o17b3o$56bo$57bo10$45b2o$45b2o7$43bo$42bobo$42bobo$43bo
10$44b2o$44b2o18b3o$64bo$65bo10$52b2o$52b2o6$38bo2bo$42bo7bo$38bo3bo6b
obo$39b4o6bobo$50bo10$51b2o$51b2o12$59b2o$59b2o$45bo2bo$49bo$45bo3bo$
46b4o3$57bo$56bobo$56bobo$57bo10$58b2o$58b2o12$66b2o$66b2o$51bo2bo$55b
o$51bo3bo$52b4o3$64bo$63bobo$63bobo$64bo10$65b2o$65b2o19$65b3o$66bo$
64b3o!

Note that none of these produce the same block offset that the FNG-compatible cleanup (ie SW in this picture) does. Almost all of them wipe out the front block and leave the lonely block alone. The MWSS one at the top also has the nifty feature of suppressing the FNG of the next climber on the trail, at the fairly mild cost of restricting the parity of the next climber.

I've gone and measured (hopefully accurately?) the current set of rephasing options provided by these cleanup methods (all of these are including the initial (-6, 2) displacement that occurs from the climber itself):
Cleanup type:  Front     Back      Block+Blinker
              (-6, 2)  (-7, 15)     (-5, -5) p2

Offset from one block in trail to the next is (-7, 34).
Back block entry could also be written (-7, -19).
Upwards is considered positive here (I realized after writing things down that Golly goes the other way).


Edit: I noticed that the left two trails in the 6-trail rake/rephaser set don't require any other climbers to be reburnable - they'll still emit gliders in both directions, but the pair is self-stabilizing. Just wanted to point that out, since it makes it more likely that we can build up from 2 trails to 6.
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Re: (34,7)c/156 caterpillar

Postby Hunting » February 4th, 2019, 1:34 am

Is this thread dead?
Just a RLE version of the sketch.
x = 400, y = 400, rule = LifeHistory
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A$110.A.3A.3A13.A13.A19.E6.E5.A40.A11.9A132.A$110.A.3A.3A12.A13.A20.E
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Plz correct my grammar mistakes. I'm still studying English.

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Favorite gun ever:
#C Favorite Gun. Found by me.
x = 4, y = 6, rule = B2e3i4at/S1c23cijn4a
o2bo$4o3$4o$o2bo!
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Re: (34,7)c/156 caterpillar

Postby Moosey » February 4th, 2019, 9:36 am

Hunting wrote:Is this thread dead?
Just a RLE version of the sketch.
La

Why do you post in random threads, “Is this thread dead?”, usually those that are likely dead?
My rules:
They can be found here

Bill Watterson once wrote: "How do soldiers killing each other solve the world's problems?"
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Re: (34,7)c/156 caterpillar

Postby googoIpIex » February 28th, 2019, 8:57 pm

I'm going to make a helix.
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Re: (34,7)c/156 caterpillar

Postby Hunting » March 1st, 2019, 12:02 pm

googoIpIex wrote:I'm going to make a helix.

How?
Plz correct my grammar mistakes. I'm still studying English.

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* Rule Y Orthogonoid

Favorite gun ever:
#C Favorite Gun. Found by me.
x = 4, y = 6, rule = B2e3i4at/S1c23cijn4a
o2bo$4o3$4o$o2bo!
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Re: (34,7)c/156 caterpillar

Postby googoIpIex » March 1st, 2019, 4:51 pm

Hunting wrote:
googoIpIex wrote:I'm going to make a helix.

How?

The helix toolset.
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