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Re: Thread For Your Accidental Discoveries

Postby mniemiec » July 26th, 2018, 11:26 pm

Jormungant wrote:Well, that now I have to look up what a 'rock' is, hurrah!

An eater is an object that temporarily gets deformed while altering an approaching blob. A rock is a special subset of eater that doesn't change while altering an approaching blob. A fishhook is most frequently used as an eater from the front, but it can also sometimes be used as a rock from behind. Blocks are frequently used as eaters (in queen bees and blockers), and occasionally as rocks. Blinkers, clocks, and toads are also sometimes used as rocks, when their pointy ends suppress sparks that would otherwise occur.
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Re: Thread For Your Accidental Discoveries

Postby Hdjensofjfnen » July 27th, 2018, 8:19 pm

Almost certainly known:
x = 16, y = 12, rule = B3/S23
bo12bo$2bo10bo$3o10b3o8$7b2o$7b2o!
Life is hard. Deal with it.
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x = 8, y = 4, rule = B3-ek/S023
bobo$2obo3bo$bobo$3bo!
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Re: Thread For Your Accidental Discoveries

Postby AforAmpere » July 27th, 2018, 8:49 pm

Hdjensofjfnen wrote:Almost certainly known:

Yes, that is a well-known reaction, and is in fact in DRH oscillators:
x = 79, y = 41, rule = B3/S23
7$6bo2b2o4b2o2bo36bo2b2o4b2o2bo$5bo3b3o2b3o3bo34bo3b3o2b3o3bo$6bo2b2o
4b2o2bo36bo2b2o4b2o2bo3$37b2o$37b2o8$36bo2bo$34bobo2bobo$35b2o2b2o3$
37b2o$37b2o3$6bo2b2o4b2o2bo36bo2b2o4b2o2bo$5bo3b3o2b3o3bo34bo3b3o2b3o
3bo$6bo2b2o4b2o2bo36bo2b2o4b2o2bo!
Things to work on:
- Find a (7,1)c/8 ship in a Non-totalistic rule (someone please search the rules)
- Find a C/10 in JustFriends
- Find a C/10 in Day and Night
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Re: Thread For Your Accidental Discoveries

Postby dvgrn » July 27th, 2018, 10:29 pm

AforAmpere wrote:
Hdjensofjfnen wrote:Almost certainly known:

Yes, that is a well-known reaction, and is in fact in DRH oscillators...

Also in the Life Lexicon under rephaser, and see also glider-block cycle.
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Re: Thread For Your Accidental Discoveries

Postby Gamedziner » July 29th, 2018, 2:35 pm

Here's an interesting 3,1 interaction block push that takes 50 generations to complete (with 1 domino spark left over):
3bo$3bo$2o$2ob3o!
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Re: Thread For Your Accidental Discoveries

Postby Hdjensofjfnen » August 2nd, 2018, 8:15 pm

Extrementhusiast wrote:Well, this is confusing:
x = 26, y = 8, rule = B3/S23
2b2o20b2o$2b2o20b2o4$2b2o19b2o$3bo20bo$3o18b3o!


That looks very similar to a pattern discussed in Lifeline issue 10, page 7 (Harry J. Riley); however, your gliders are opposite direction.
x = 28, y = 3, rule = B3/S23
o2bob3o12bob2ob3o$2bobo19bo$o19bo!
Life is hard. Deal with it.
This is my new favorite spaceship:
x = 8, y = 4, rule = B3-ek/S023
bobo$2obo3bo$bobo$3bo!
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Re: Thread For Your Accidental Discoveries

Postby Hdjensofjfnen » August 2nd, 2018, 8:19 pm

Huh?
x = 6, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
4b2o$4b2o6$3o$obo$obo!

x = 6, y = 7, rule = B3/S23
4bo$3bobo$4b2o2$3o$obo$obo!
Life is hard. Deal with it.
This is my new favorite spaceship:
x = 8, y = 4, rule = B3-ek/S023
bobo$2obo3bo$bobo$3bo!
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Re: Thread For Your Accidental Discoveries

Postby Hdjensofjfnen » August 16th, 2018, 8:50 pm

You put 3 gliders in and get 7 out:
x = 11, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
8b2o$2o6bobo$b2o5bo$o3$7b2o$6b2o$8bo!
Life is hard. Deal with it.
This is my new favorite spaceship:
x = 8, y = 4, rule = B3-ek/S023
bobo$2obo3bo$bobo$3bo!
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Re: Thread For Your Accidental Discoveries

Postby Gamedziner » August 16th, 2018, 10:05 pm

A ten-cell 2c/38 (seriously) partial, off by four cells (see gen 19):
x = 5, y = 5, rule = LifeHistory
.D2A$.D2C$.ADAD$3A2D$A2.2D!

If a small enough support exists, there may be a tiny 2c/38 just waiting to be discovered!
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Re: Thread For Your Accidental Discoveries

Postby Goldtiger997 » August 26th, 2018, 4:57 am

I found these interesting 3 glider syntheses while looking for reactions for the stable line crosser:

x = 58, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
11bo$11bobo$11b2o35b2o$b2o44bobo$obo46bo$2bo$56b2o$55b2o$57bo$8b2o$7bo
bo$9bo$41b3o$43bo$42bo!


The first one is almost symmetric, so it is surprising when a clean, asymmetrically-placed mango appears. The second synthesis creates a non-standard one-time reflector, as well as a perfectly placed glider that then reflects off it!
Things to work on:
  • Work on the snowflakes orthogonoid
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Re: Thread For Your Accidental Discoveries

Postby Hdjensofjfnen » August 27th, 2018, 9:17 pm

I wonder if this counts as a 3G:
x = 9, y = 12, rule = B3/S23
o$b2o$2o2$3bo$4bo$2b3o3$7bo$6b2o$6bobo!

EDIT: It doesn't.

EDIT: Trippy:
x = 13, y = 6, rule = B3/S23
6bo$2b2obobob2o$o2bobobobo2bo$2obob3obob2o$3bo5bo$3b2o3b2o!
Last edited by Hdjensofjfnen on September 15th, 2018, 12:21 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Thread For Your Accidental Discoveries

Postby Extrementhusiast » August 28th, 2018, 5:09 pm

calcyman wrote:Serendipity strikes [yet] again!

Over eight-and-a-half years after helping find a tiny Cordership LWSS backrake, I found a tiny Cordership MWSS backrake!
x = 157, y = 76, rule = B3/S23
15b2o$15b2o5$152b5o$151bo4bo$7b2o147bo$7b2o142bo3bo$153bo3$19bo$18b3o
75b5o$17b2obo74bo4bo$20b2o78bo$20b2o73bo3bo$20b2o75bo$3bo13bo57b2o$5b
2o10b2o55bo2bo$2b2ob2o11bobo53bobo$4bo13bo2bo53bo$5b2o12b2o2$4b2o13bo$
19bo$2bo16bo5b2ob2o37b2o$3bobo20bo2bo36bo2bo$2o2bo21b2o38bobo$28bo38bo
10b2o$27bobo45b2obobo$75b3o6b3o2bob3o$75b2o7b2o3bob3o$93b2o$24b4o31b2o
31b3o$27bo30bo2bo$58bobo38bo$59bo27b2o5b3obob4o$87b2o8b2obo$95b2o4b2ob
o$106bo$104b2obob2o4b2o$34b2o15b2o53b2obo5b2o$34b2o14bo2bo54bo$50bobo$
51bo2$57b2o$57b2o$107b2o$88bo18b2o$58bo38b3o$57bobo11bo11bob2o10bobo$
56b2obo8b5o10bobo6bo2b2o2bo$29b2ob2o22bo2bo7b3o3bo8bo4b2o3bo2b3o$30bo
2bo22bobo11b3o10bo8bo2b3o$30b2o22bo13bob2o11bo7bo$32bo24b2o10bo$31bobo
3b3o13bo33bo$54b5o$57bo2$28b4o$31bo7b3obo$38bob3obo19b2o$38bo3bo2bo9b
2o7b2o$41bo13b3o$39bo4bo9bo3bo$40b4o10b3o2bo$54bo3bo$40bo14b3o$39bobo$
38bo3bo$39bobo$40bo!

This could be made even smaller with a smaller loaf puffer.
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Re: Thread For Your Accidental Discoveries

Postby dvgrn » August 28th, 2018, 5:29 pm

Extrementhusiast wrote:Over eight-and-a-half years after helping find a tiny Cordership LWSS backrake, I found a tiny Cordership MWSS backrake!
...This could be made even smaller with a smaller loaf puffer.

Nice find! The trailing loaf-to-MWSS converter can move a good bit closer to the current loaf puffer:

x = 107, y = 78, rule = B3/S23
13b2o$13b2o7$5b2o10bo$5b2o9b3o$15b5o$14b3ob2o$14b2ob2o$16bo5$bo$b2o$ob
o14b3o$bo15bobo$obo14bo2bo75b2o$obo14bob2o72b3ob2o$17bo2bo72b5o$24b2o
68b3o$5o18bobo$4obo11bo5bobo39b2o$6bo10b3o3bobo38bo2bo$4b2o17bobo38bob
o$65bo$3o$24b3o$23bo3bo$23bo4bo$24b3o2bo27b2o9bo$28bo27bo2bo5b2obo$24b
o31bobo5b2obobo$24bo32bo4b2o4b3o11b2o$24bo35bo2bo2bob3o11bobo$60bo3b3o
2bo12bobo$60bo22b2o$61b2ob4o14bobo$32b2o15b2o12bo2bo15bob2o5b2o$32b2o
14bo2bo11bo17b2o2bo4bo2bo$48bobo13b2o15b2ob2o4b3o$49bo27b2o3bobo6b2o$
54b3o20b2o4bo$52bo4bo$51bo6b2o39b2ob2o$58b2o42bo2b2o$51bo4bo43bob2ob2o
$53bo41b2o3bo2b3o$28b2o24bobo39bob2ob3o$27bobo26bo39b3o3bo$27bobo25bo
33bo$27bobo58b3o$27bobo57b2o2bo$76bo12b3o5b2o$35b3o35b2obo20b2o$28b3o
40b2o$27bo3bo37bo2bo2b2o5bo$27bo4bo22bo12bobob2o2b2o3bobo$28b3o2bo20bo
bo10b3ob2o8bobo5bo$32bo4b5o11bo14b2o5bo13bo$28bo9bob2o11bo4bo3b2o5bo
19bo$28bo9b3o11b2o5bo2b2o6b5o$28bo10b2o12bo17b2o$40bo11b3o2b2o13bo$39b
obo10b2o$40b2o$38b3obo$37bo3bo$38bo3bo10bo2bo$36b3o15b2o$39b2o$36b2ob
2o$38bo!
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Re: Thread For Your Accidental Discoveries

Postby Hdjensofjfnen » August 31st, 2018, 8:02 pm

gmc_nxtman wrote:Two MWSS + LWSS = Perpendicular LWSS:
x = 38, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
33b4o$33bo3bo$33bo$34bo2bo2$b5o9b3o$o4bo8b5o$5bo8b3ob2o$o3bo12b2o$2bo!


That reduces to...
x = 12, y = 7, rule = B3/S23
b5o$o4bo$5bo$o3bo3b2o$2bo6bo$9bobo$10b2o!
Life is hard. Deal with it.
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x = 8, y = 4, rule = B3-ek/S023
bobo$2obo3bo$bobo$3bo!
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Re: Thread For Your Accidental Discoveries

Postby Sarp » September 5th, 2018, 8:55 am

Lom to r
x = 11, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
b2o$b2o3$8b3o$2o5bo2bo$2o5b3o6$8b2o$8b2o!
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Re: Thread For Your Accidental Discoveries

Postby KittyTac » September 5th, 2018, 11:37 pm

Sarp wrote:Lom to r
x = 11, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
b2o$b2o3$8b3o$2o5bo2bo$2o5b3o6$8b2o$8b2o!

It's one-time. :(
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Re: Thread For Your Accidental Discoveries

Postby dvgrn » September 6th, 2018, 4:50 am

KittyTac wrote:
Sarp wrote:Lom to r
x = 11, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
b2o$b2o3$8b3o$2o5bo2bo$2o5b3o6$8b2o$8b2o!

It's one-time. :(

Technically it's not quite one-time. The R appears a long time before the block catalyst is destroyed, and escapes from the reaction envelope 16 ticks before that destruction. So at least theoretically, there's time to add more catalysts and rescue the signal:

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x = 20, y = 17, rule = LifeHistory
16.2B$10.9B$9.9B$9.9B$7.11B$6.12B$.B.5B2ABD7B$2AB.3BABAB2D7B$2A5BABA
2D7B$.2B.3B2A9B$4.13B$5.10B$5.6B2.B$4.4B.2B.3B$5.4B.2B2AB$5.2B2AB2.2A
$7.2A!
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In practice there are probably only a few ticks before that backspark has gone irretrievably out of control, though. I don't think any of the R-to-Xs in the current Elementary Conduits Collection can do anything with that R output.

The bigger problem is that you also have to get the LoM to that position in the first place. It would probably make more sense if people would come up with a half-decent source of LoMs before they bother to find all these converters that need LoM inputs. It kind of limits the usefulness of the conduit if the LoM has to be there at T=0 and there's no practical way to produce another one.

Some of the linked LoM-to-X converters allow the LoM to be produced by colliding two gliders, at least. That's expensive enough to make the whole exercise ultimately fairly pointless, but at least there's something. This latest LoM-to-R seems to have a block in the way of one or the other of those gliders, no matter which way you build the LoM.
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Re: Thread For Your Accidental Discoveries

Postby Hunting » September 8th, 2018, 5:59 am

Pi+Ship+Blinker=Temp- very-very-long-snake?
x = 25, y = 22, rule = B3/S23
18bobo$2o16bobo$obo15b3o$b2o16$24bo$24bo$24bo!
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Almost c/2:
x = 19, y = 10, rule = LifeHistory
7.D3.D$6.DCD.DCD$5.DC2AD2ACD$3.2DAC2.A2.CA2D$3.AC.C2.D2.C.CA$.2D.C.AD
.A.DA.C.2D$.2C.A2.A3.A2.A.2C$.CA.2D7.2D.AC$DC2.2A7.2A2.CD$2A15.2A!
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Re: Thread For Your Accidental Discoveries

Postby Hunting » September 8th, 2018, 6:40 am

Also, I discovered this simple reaction(B+R):
x = 4, y = 17, rule = B3/S23
2bo$b3o$2obo12$bo$2o$b2o!

It's final population shocked me, and I find out that a large SL appears in the ash.
Almost c/2:
x = 19, y = 10, rule = LifeHistory
7.D3.D$6.DCD.DCD$5.DC2AD2ACD$3.2DAC2.A2.CA2D$3.AC.C2.D2.C.CA$.2D.C.AD
.A.DA.C.2D$.2C.A2.A3.A2.A.2C$.CA.2D7.2D.AC$DC2.2A7.2A2.CD$2A15.2A!
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Re: Thread For Your Accidental Discoveries

Postby Jormungant » September 8th, 2018, 11:26 am

Hunting wrote:Also, I discovered this simple reaction(B+R):


And there it is relevant reaction +- 4400 generation later:

x = 13, y = 13, rule = LifeHistory
6B3A4B$5B2ABAB3A$5B4AB2AB$4BA8B$3BABA7B$3BABA7B$4BA8B$13B$13B$.12B$B
2A10B$ABA10B$2A3.8B!


or

x = 63, y = 48, rule = LifeHistory
15$30.8B2A7B$12.B16.8BA2BA6B$12.2B12.12B2A7B$12.3B11.21B$12.4B9.22B$
12.5B8.22B$12.6B5.24B$12.35B$12.20B2A13B$12.6B3A11BABA12B$12.21BA5B2A
6B$12.26BABA2.4B$13.24BABAB2.4B$14.24BA2B.5B$15.32B$12.B3.26B.4B$12.
3B2.25BA4B$12.5B.24B3A2B$12.6B2A22BABA2B$12.5BABA.23BA2B$12.5B2A2.26B
$12.6B3.26B$12.35B$12.35B$12.35B$12.35B!
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Re: Thread For Your Accidental Discoveries

Postby Hdjensofjfnen » September 8th, 2018, 6:58 pm

Wow!! Bookend siamese bookend on python and block?

Edit: A smaller synthesis is possible if the 8-cell pattern in red can be synthesized:
x = 26, y = 27, rule = LifeHistory
8.A10B$7.ABABD7B$6.A3BCD11B.2B$6.A2DBDA14B$5.2ABCD2A14B$5.5BA13B2A$5.
11BA2B2A3B2A$5.ABA9B3A6B$5.2A11BA7B$4.22B$4.2BA13B2A4B$4.ABA12BA2BA3B
$B3.ABA12BA2BA3B$5BA14B2A4B$26B$26B$26B$26B$26B$26B$26B$26B$26B$.25B$
B2A23B$ABA.22B$2A2.22B!


EDIT: After clearing out some crap:
x = 26, y = 30, rule = LifeHistory
4.3A4B6.AB$5.7B4.ABAB$4.9B3.ABA2B$5.12BA3B$5.18B$6.B2A14B.2B$4.2BA2BA
7B3A6B$3.4B3A8BA7B$3.23B$2.24B$2.24B$3.23B$3.23B$3.21B2A$3.15BA5B2A$B
2.15BA7B$17BABA6B$18BA7B$18BA7B$26B$26B$26B$26B$26B$26B$26B$.25B$B2A
23B$ABA.22B$2A2.22B!
Life is hard. Deal with it.
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x = 8, y = 4, rule = B3-ek/S023
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Re: Thread For Your Accidental Discoveries

Postby Hunting » September 9th, 2018, 4:24 am

Hdjensofjfnen wrote:Wow!! Bookend siamese bookend on python and block?

Edit: A smaller synthesis is possible if the 8-cell pattern in red can be synthesized:
x = 26, y = 27, rule = LifeHistory
8.A10B$7.ABABD7B$6.A3BCD11B.2B$6.A2DBDA14B$5.2ABCD2A14B$5.5BA13B2A$5.
11BA2B2A3B2A$5.ABA9B3A6B$5.2A11BA7B$4.22B$4.2BA13B2A4B$4.ABA12BA2BA3B
$B3.ABA12BA2BA3B$5BA14B2A4B$26B$26B$26B$26B$26B$26B$26B$26B$26B$.25B$
B2A23B$ABA.22B$2A2.22B!


EDIT: After clearing out some crap:
x = 26, y = 30, rule = LifeHistory
4.3A4B6.AB$5.7B4.ABAB$4.9B3.ABA2B$5.12BA3B$5.18B$6.B2A14B.2B$4.2BA2BA
7B3A6B$3.4B3A8BA7B$3.23B$2.24B$2.24B$3.23B$3.23B$3.21B2A$3.15BA5B2A$B
2.15BA7B$17BABA6B$18BA7B$18BA7B$26B$26B$26B$26B$26B$26B$26B$.25B$B2A
23B$ABA.22B$2A2.22B!

Nice, but I didn't find any way to clean up the debris to prevent the destroyer "methethulas" from froming.
Almost c/2:
x = 19, y = 10, rule = LifeHistory
7.D3.D$6.DCD.DCD$5.DC2AD2ACD$3.2DAC2.A2.CA2D$3.AC.C2.D2.C.CA$.2D.C.AD
.A.DA.C.2D$.2C.A2.A3.A2.A.2C$.CA.2D7.2D.AC$DC2.2A7.2A2.CD$2A15.2A!
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Re: Thread For Your Accidental Discoveries

Postby Hunting » September 9th, 2018, 7:34 am

x = 11, y = 7, rule = B3/S23
2bo$2ob2o$b3o4bo$8b2o$8b3o$8b2o$8bo!

What's this?
Almost c/2:
x = 19, y = 10, rule = LifeHistory
7.D3.D$6.DCD.DCD$5.DC2AD2ACD$3.2DAC2.A2.CA2D$3.AC.C2.D2.C.CA$.2D.C.AD
.A.DA.C.2D$.2C.A2.A3.A2.A.2C$.CA.2D7.2D.AC$DC2.2A7.2A2.CD$2A15.2A!
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Re: Thread For Your Accidental Discoveries

Postby Saka » September 9th, 2018, 7:49 am

Hunting wrote:
x = 11, y = 7, rule = B3/S23
2bo$2ob2o$b3o4bo$8b2o$8b3o$8b2o$8bo!

What's this?

It's xs20_651u0oozw178c.
If you're the person that uploaded to Sakagolue illegally, please PM me.
x = 17, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
b2ob2obo5b2o$11b4obo$2bob3o2bo2b3o$bo3b2o4b2o$o2bo2bob2o3b4o$bob2obo5b
o2b2o$2b2o4bobo2b3o$bo3b5ob2obobo$2bo5bob2o$4bob2o2bobobo!

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Re: Thread For Your Accidental Discoveries

Postby gameoflifemaniac » September 9th, 2018, 9:48 am

Hunting wrote:
x = 11, y = 7, rule = B3/S23
2bo$2ob2o$b3o4bo$8b2o$8b3o$8b2o$8bo!

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