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Thread for your Useful Discoveries

PostPosted: December 1st, 2018, 2:20 am
by Entity Valkyrie
This is a thread for your Useful discoveries.

This is for any pattern which dosen't fit in the Accidental, Useless and Unsure threads.

I will start with this memory cell:
x = 256, y = 256, rule = LifeHistory
156.A$154.3A$116.2A11.A6.2A15.A$116.2A10.A.A4.A2.A14.2A54.D.D$128.A.A
3.A.3A2.2A64.D5.D$127.2A.2A.A.A6.A79.3D.3D.3D$131.A.A3.2A3.A.A61.D4.D
2.D7.D.D.D3.D$127.2A.A2.4A.A4.2A64.2D5.D.D.D.D.D.2D2.2D$127.2A.A.A3.A
69.D3.2D2.D7.D.D.D3.D$131.A.A3.A84.3D.D3.D$132.A.A3.A68.D5.D$133.A3.
2A14.A55.D.D$152.A.A$153.A2$124.2A11.D$124.2A9.3D$109.2A24.D.D$108.A
2.A23.D$107.A.2A42.2A$107.A45.2A$85.D.D18.2A$83.D5.D31.2A$68.3D.3D46.
A$68.D.D.D.D7.D4.D2.D31.3A$68.D.D.D.D.D.D.D4.2D37.A5.2A$68.D.D.D.D7.D
3.2D2.D38.A.A$68.3D.D.D54.A$83.D5.D38.2A$85.D.D2$136.A15.2A$91.2A42.A
.A14.A.A$92.A42.A.A16.A$90.A45.A17.2A26.D.D$61.A28.5A14.2A29.2A38.D5.
D$61.3A31.A13.A30.A.A52.2D2.3D2.D2.2D$64.A27.3A12.A.A32.A36.D4.D2.D7.
D.D.D3.D.D.D.D$63.2A26.A15.2A33.2A38.2D5.D.D.D.2D2.2D2.3D.D.D$91.4A
84.D3.2D2.D7.D.D.D3.D.D.D.D$89.2A3.A3.2A95.D.D.3D.D.D.2D$55.2A31.A2.
3A4.2A80.D5.D$55.A32.2A.A90.D.D$52.2A.A35.A$52.A2.3A4.2A27.2A$53.2A3.
A3.2A$55.4A$55.A15.2A26.2A$56.3A12.A.A26.A$59.A13.A23.3A$54.5A14.2A
22.A37.2A$54.A80.2A$56.A$55.2A3$196.A$98.A97.3A$98.3A98.A20.2A$101.A
96.2A20.2A$88.A11.2A11.2A11.D$86.3A24.2A9.3D$85.A38.D.D$85.2A37.D$70.
2A$71.A73.2A36.A$71.A.2A70.2A36.3A$72.A2.A23.D86.A$73.2A24.D.D71.A11.
2A11.2A11.D$88.2A9.3D69.3A24.2A9.3D$88.2A11.D22.2A44.A38.D.D$123.A.A
44.2A37.D$123.A31.2A$122.2A32.A73.2A$97.A3.2A53.A.2A70.2A$96.A.A3.A
54.A2.A23.D$95.A.A3.A56.2A24.D.D$91.2A.A.A3.A12.2A58.2A9.3D$91.2A.A2.
4A.A10.A59.2A11.D22.2A$95.A.A3.A.A10.3A91.A.A$91.2A.2A2.A2.A.A12.A91.
A$92.A.A2.2A3.A104.2A$80.2A10.A.A87.A3.2A$80.2A11.A87.A.A3.A$87.2A91.
A.A3.A$86.A.A87.2A.A.A3.A12.2A20.D.D$80.2A4.A89.2A.A2.4A.A10.A19.D5.D
$78.A2.A2.2A.4A89.A.A3.A.A10.3A31.3D.3D.3D.3D.D3.3D$78.2A.A.A.A.A2.A
85.2A.2A2.A2.A.A12.A15.D4.D2.D8.D2.D.D.D3.D3.D3.D$81.A.A.A.A89.A.A2.
2A3.A32.2D5.D.D.D2.D2.D.D.D3.D.D.D3.2D$81.A.A.2A78.2A10.A.A37.D3.2D2.
D8.D2.D.D.D.D.D.D.D3.D$82.A82.2A11.A55.D2.3D.3D.3D.3D.3D$218.D5.D$95.
2A123.D.D$86.2A7.A$86.2A5.A.A$93.2A7$83.2A$84.A$81.3A$81.A8$49.A20.2A
$49.3A18.A.A$52.A15.2A2.A$51.2A14.A4.2A$67.A14.2A8.2A$66.2A.A12.2A8.
2A$43.2A20.A2.2A$43.A21.2A33.2C$40.2A.A56.C.C$40.A2.3A4.2A49.C36.A11.
2A$41.2A3.A3.2A12.A.2A69.A.A10.2A$43.4A17.2A.A24.D32.A3.A3.2A2.A.A$
43.A15.2A31.2D29.3A2.A.A2.A2.2A.2A$44.3A12.A.A29.2D29.A5.A.A3.A.A$47.
A13.A60.2A5.A.4A2.A.2A$42.5A14.2A3.2A63.A3.A.A.2A$42.A20.A.A.A35.2A
25.A3.A.A$44.A18.A.A32.2A.A2.A24.A3.A.A$43.2A17.2A.2A30.A.A.3A25.2A3.
A$94.A2.A.A$94.4A.3A$98.A3.A$96.A.A2.2A27.D11.2A$96.2A32.3D9.2A16.2A$
130.D.D24.2A2.A$132.D23.A2.2A$157.A$67.3D40.2A46.3A$68.D41.2A49.A$68.
3D74.2A13.2A$146.A$143.3A$131.2A10.A55.2A$131.A.A64.A.A$133.A58.2A4.A
$133.2A55.A2.A2.2A.4A$170.2A18.2A.A.A.A.A2.A$163.2A5.A.A20.A.A.A.A$
163.2A7.A20.A.A.2A$172.2A20.A2$159.A47.2A$158.A.A.2A34.2A7.A$158.A.A.
A.A33.2A5.A.A$155.2A.A.A.A.A2.A37.2A$51.2A16.2A84.A2.A2.2A.4A$50.A.A
16.2A7.2A77.2A4.A$50.A27.A84.A.A$40.2A7.2A17.D7.A.A85.2A$39.A2.A2.2A
20.3D6.2A$40.2A2.A.A20.D.2D$42.2A151.2A$42.A153.A$39.2A.A2.A147.3A$
39.A2.A.A.A146.A24.2A$41.2A.2A14.2A156.A$60.2A42.A115.A$104.3A93.2A
14.5A$74.2A31.A93.A13.A$58.2A14.A.A29.A.A92.A.A12.3A$57.A.A16.A29.A.A
93.2A15.A$57.A18.2A29.A108.4A$56.2A153.2A3.A3.2A$211.2A4.3A2.A$219.A.
2A$51.2A166.A$50.A2.A2.2A64.2A94.2A$51.2A2.A.A3.3D58.2A$53.2A7.D8.2A$
53.A8.3D6.A138.2A$50.2A.A2.A15.3A135.A$50.A.2A.A.A16.A27.2A107.3A$54.
A.A44.A.A109.A$51.2A2.A45.A$49.3A.2A45.2A7.2A$48.A60.2A$49.3A.2A$51.A
.2A62.2A.A$97.A19.2A.3A$61.2A34.3A23.A$61.2A7.2A28.A16.2A.3A$70.A2.A
25.2A15.A2.2A$68.A.A.2A41.A.A$68.2A.A42.A.A.3A$71.A43.A2.A2.A$71.3A
18.2A13.3D8.A.A.A$74.A16.A2.A14.D7.2A2.A.A51.A$48.2A23.2A17.2A14.3D3.
A.A2.A.A.A49.3A$48.2A64.2A2.2A.2A49.A$172.2A$89.2A$90.A30.A$87.3A29.
3A$64.A22.A30.A$63.A.A17.2A33.2A$12.D50.A.A10.2A5.A.A$10.2D52.A11.2A
7.A76.2A$11.2D52.3A17.2A74.A.A5.2A$9.D57.A93.A7.2A$7.2D63.A87.2A$8.2D
61.A.A.2A$6.D64.A.A.A.A96.A$4.2D62.2A.A.A.A.A2.A12.2A18.A56.2A.A.A$5.
2D61.A2.A2.2A.4A13.A10.2A5.A.A54.A.A.A.A$70.2A4.A14.3A11.2A6.A52.A2.A
.A.A.A.2A$76.A.A12.A74.4A.2A2.A2.A$77.2A91.A4.2A$168.A.A$3D.3D.3D157.
2A$D.D.D3.D$D.D.2D2.2D$D.D.D3.D$3D.D3.D12$143.D$144.2D$143.2D$146.D$
147.2D$146.2D$149.D$150.2D$149.2D5$149.3D.3D$149.D.D.D.D$149.D.D.D.D$
149.D.D.D.D$149.3D.D.D!

Re: Thread for your Useful Discoveries

PostPosted: December 1st, 2018, 5:41 pm
by Sokwe
I don't think we need another catch-all aggregation thread. If a pattern is useful then it probably belongs in an existing thread, or deserves its own thread.

Re: Thread for your Useful Discoveries

PostPosted: December 1st, 2018, 9:53 pm
by dvgrn
Sokwe wrote:I don't think we need another catch-all aggregation thread. If a pattern is useful then it probably belongs in an existing thread, or deserves its own thread.

I kind of agree -- but on the other hand, I'm very much in favor of the creation of something like this, as a dedicated thread for Entity Valkyrie's patterns. If there's an obvious place to put patterns like this one, it might go a long way toward preventing the same exact pattern from getting re-posted in three places on the forums -- here, and in Unsure discoveries, and in Thread for requesting help of all places (with no help actually requested).

-- And then it showed up in the main namespace on the LifeWiki, with an inaccurate redirect from "Valkyrie-Greene's memory cell". (It has now been moved to the usual place.) It would be wonderful if one thread on the forums could collect all of this kind of thing, for someone else to make LifeWiki articles out of whenever that seems like a good idea.

Entity Valkyrie wrote:A memory cell that can do 4 things with the white boat:

- Put on the boat regardless of whether the boat is there or not. No output. (ON)
- Remove the boat regardless of whether the boat is there or not. No output. (OFF)
- Reverse the presence or absence of the boat. No output. (TOGGLE)
- Read whether the boat is present or absent, and outputs the glider in the corresponding direction. (READ)
...
x = 256, y = 256, rule = LifeHistory...

The bottom part of the pattern is an existing OFF / TOGGLE / READ circuit from a year ago. If you can easily add a link to prior art, please do it, here on the forums as well as on the LifeWiki. It keeps people from wasting time saying, "That looks kinda like something I saw before -- hey, waitaminute..."

The addition of an ON option, and turning off the TOGGLE outputs, more than doubled the size of M.I. Wright's original mechanism. Seems like there absolutely ought to be a mechanism out there somewhere that's a lot smaller than that boat toggle, but nobody has quite come up with a really good toggle reaction that's both compact and resettable.

I tried a quick rebuild. It ended up about the same size, but the part toward the top is maybe a little less tangled and could probably be replaced by something better. The trick is that the splitter that produces the OFF followed by TOGGLE signals from the ON input has to have two transparent lanes, so that either OFF or TOGGLE can also be sent separately. Or I suppose the independent OFF and/or TOGGLE could be done with an edge shooter instead.

No doubt there's a better way than what I found, for that problem and also the TOGGLE output suppression which is an awkward pi cleanup that then has to be Snark-reflected away from the ON input splitter -- not so good. And maybe the fix could also separate the READ and OFF inputs so that it's possible to connect to both of them without an edge shooter.

x = 188, y = 274, rule = LifeHistory
8.4B84.4B$9.4B82.3B3D.3D$10.4B80.4BD.D.D.D$11.4B78.D3B.D.D.D.D$12.4B
76.BDBD2.D.D.D.D$13.4B74.2B2D3.3D.D.D$14.4B64.A7.4B$15.4B61.3A6.4B$
16.4B59.A8.4B55.B.2B7.3D.3D.3D.3D.D3.3D$17.4B57.A.A6.4B55.DB.B9.D2.D.
D.D3.D3.D3.D$18.4B55.BA.A5.4B55.BDBD2.D.D.D3.D2.D.D.D3.D.D.D3.2D$19.
4B53.3BA5.4B55.2B2D11.D2.D.D.D.D.D.D.D3.D$20.4B50.4B6.4B55.4B12.D2.3D
.3D.3D.3D.3D$21.4B47.6B5.4B55.4B$22.4B45.7B4.4B55.4B$23.4B37.B.4B.8B
2.4B55.4B$24.4B35.2AB.17B55.4B$25.4B34.2A18B55.4B$26.3BD34.2B.16B54.
4B$27.B2DB9.3D.3D20.16B53.4B$28.DBDB8.D.D.D.D21.15B52.4B$29.3BD7.D.D.
D.D22.12B.B2A49.4B$30.B2DB6.D.D.D.D22.11B2.BA.A47.4B$31.DBDB5.3D.D.D
23.10B5.A46.4B$32.3BD34.6B2A2B5.2A44.4B$33.B2DB33.6B2A3B49.4B$34.DBDB
32.10B39.2A8.4B$35.4B27.A.2AB.8B40.A7.4B$36.4B24.3AB2AB3.7B39.A.AB3.
4B$37.4B22.A4.B6.6B40.2AB2.4B$38.4B22.3A.2A4.6B43.6B$39.4B23.2A2.A4.
5B43.5B$40.4B25.A.A.8B42.5B$41.4B21.3A.A.A8B8.A32.7B23.2A$42.4B19.A2.
A.BA2B.6B6.3A31.4B.4B22.A$43.4B17.A.A.A2.2B2.2B3D2B4.A33.4B3.4B18.BA.
A$44.4B15.A.A2.2A.B3.2BD4B4.2A20.A10.4B5.4B14.2A.B2A$45.4B14.A.A.A2.A
.A2.B3D4B.4B4.A15.3A7.4B.B.3B.4B12.B2A2B$46.4B14.2A.2A2.2A2.11B4.3A
18.A5.4B.18B6.4B$47.4B24.12B2.A20.2A3.5B.2B2A11BD4B3.6B$48.4B23.12B2.
2A19.9B2.2B2A9B3D4B2.6B$49.4B23.11B3.B21.8B.13BDBD4B.7B$50.4B25.7B4.
3B19.22BD15B$51.4B23.8B3.6B16.15B.2B2.20B$52.4B21.9B2.10B11.17B8.18B$
53.4B19.23B3.2B2.19B11.16B$54.4B16.B.12BD3B2A15BD15B12.14B$55.4B14.2A
13B2D2B2A15BDBD4B.7B12.16B$56.4B13.2A14B2D18B3D13B11.14B.B2A$57.4B13.
15BD21BD14B8.2AB.3B3.6B.BA.A$58.4B10.5B2.9BD26B2.8B8.A.AB7.6B4.A$59.
4B9.2A6.5B5.13B.4B11.6B8.A9.2B2D2BD4.2A$60.4B9.A7.2B.3B3.7B.B4.4B12.
5B8.2A4.2A2.4B3DB$61.4B5.3A12.2A15.4B14.4B13.A.A7BD4B$70.A14.A15.4B
15.3B14.A3.11B$86.3A11.4B17.4B11.2A3.4B2A5B$88.A10.4B20.2A17.3B2A5B$
65.4B10.2A17.4B21.A18.10B$66.4B9.A17.4B23.3A16.9B$67.4B10.A14.4B26.A
16.9B$61.2A5.4B5.5A13.4B44.8B$62.A5.4B4.A17.4B46.8B$62.A.AB.7B2.B3A
13.4B48.6B$63.2AB.7B3.2B.A11.4B49.6B4.2A$65.12B4A10.4B50.6B4.A$65.7B
2A3BAB2.2A7.4B50.7B.BA.A$60.2A3.7B2A2B.B3A2.A5.4B51.6B2.B2A$59.B2AB2.
10B3.B.A.2A4.4B53.8B$60.2B2.8B8.A6.4B54.8B$58.3B2.9B7.2A5.4B54.8B$55.
B.9B2.3B14.4B55.7B$54.2A9B3.5B11.4B47.2A7.6B$54.2A8B7.2A10.4B49.A6.2B
3D2B$58.7B6.A10.4B50.A.AB3.4BD2B$58.8B6.3A6.4B52.2AB2.4B3DB24.B$57.4B
2.4B7.A5.4B55.11B3.3D.3D.3D9.2B$56.4B4.4B11.4B56.11B3.D.D.D3.D10.D2B$
55.4B6.4B9.4B52.A4.11B3.D.D.2D2.2D2.D.D.D.BDBD$54.4B8.4B7.4B52.A.A2.
11B4.D.D.D3.D8.2B2D$53.4B10.4B5.4B53.A.A3.7B7.3D.D3.D7.4B$52.4B12.4B
3.4B52.3A.2A2.8B21.4B$51.4B14.4B.4B52.A4.B4.8B19.4B$50.4B16.7B54.3AB
2AB2.7B19.4B$49.4B18.5B57.A.2AB.9B17.4B$48.4B19.5B59.13B16.4B$47.4B5.
A13.7B51.2A7.11B15.4B$46.4B6.3A10.4B.4B51.A7.9B.B2A12.4B$45.4B10.A8.
4B3.4B50.A.AB2.10B2.BA.A10.5B$44.4B10.2A7.4B5.4B50.2AB.11B5.A9.6B$43.
4B11.5B3.4B7.4B51.13B5.2A7.7B$42.4B14.3B2.4B9.4B50.13B13.8B$41.4B5.2A
7.9B11.4B49.14B11.8B$40.4B6.A8.8B13.4B49.14B9.8B$39.4B4.2A.A.B3.10B
15.4B52.5B2.4B7.8B$38.4B5.A2.3AB.2B2A7B16.4B50.6B3.4B5.8B$37.4B7.2A2.
BA3B2A7B17.4B49.6B4.4B3.8B$36.4B10.4A12B18.4B49.6B4.4B.8B$35.4B11.A.
2B3.7B.B2A17.4B48.3BA3B2.B.11B$34.4B13.3AB2.7B.BA.A17.4B47.2BABA16B$
33.4B17.A4.4B5.A18.4B46.2BABA15B$32.4B13.5A5.4B5.2A18.4B45.3BA15B$31.
4B14.A10.4B25.4B42.2AB.17B$30.4B17.A9.4B25.4B40.A.AB2.16B$29.4B17.2A
10.4B25.4B39.A7.11B2.B2A$28.4B31.4B25.4B37.2A7.10B3.BA.A$27.4B33.4B
25.4B46.8B7.A$26.4B35.4B25.4B44.8B8.2A$25.4B37.4B25.4B42.8B$24.4B39.
4B25.4B40.8B$23.4B41.4B25.4B38.8B$22.4B43.4B7.A17.4B36.8B$21.4B45.4B
6.3A16.4B34.8B$20.4B47.4B8.A16.4B32.8B$19.4B49.4B6.ABA16.4B30.8B$18.
4B51.4B5.A.AB16.4B28.8B$5.2A10.4B53.4B5.A3B16.4B26.8B$6.A9.4B55.4B6.
4B15.4B24.8B$4.A10.4B57.4B5.6B14.4B22.8B$4.5A5.4B5.2A52.4B4.7B14.4B
20.7B2D2.3D2.D2.2D$9.A4.4B5.A54.4B2.8B.4B.B8.4B18.4BD3BD.D.D3.D.D.D.D
$6.3AB2.7B.BA.A55.17B.B2A8.4B16.5BDBD.2D2.2D2.3D.D.D35.B$5.A.2B3.7B.B
2A57.18B2A9.4B14.6B2D2.D.D.D3.D.D.D.D$5.4A12B59.16B.2B11.4B12.8B3.D.D
.3D.D.D.2D$3.2A2.BA3B2A7B59.16B15.4B10.8B$2.A2.3AB.2B2A7B59.15B17.4B
8.8B$2.2A.A.B3.10B57.2AB.12B19.4B6.8B$5.A8.8B55.A.AB2.11B20.4B4.8B$5.
2A7.9B15.2A6.A11.2A17.A5.10B3.2A17.4B2.8B$15.3B2.4B13.A2.A4.A.A9.B2AB
15.2A5.2B2A6B3.A19.12B$13.5B3.4B8.2A2.3A.A3.A.A9.3B22.3B2A6B4.A19.10B
$13.2A7.4B7.A6.A.A.2A.2A9.B.B22.10B3.2A20.8B$14.A8.4B3.BA.A3.2A3.A.A
2.B8.5B22.8B.B2A22.8B$11.3A10.5B.B2A4.A.4A2.AB2A6.6B21.7B3.B2AB2A18.
8B$11.A13.6B8.A3.A.A.2A4.8B21.6B6.B.A18.10B$26.5B7.A2.BA.A2.13B23.6B
4.2A3.A15.12B$23.B.6B6.A.2BA.A5.13B21.8B.A2.4A14.8B2.4B$22.A8B6.2A.2B
A5.15B19.9BA.A.A16.8B4.4B10.2A$21.A.A7B10.3B4.15B10.A8.7B.2BAB.A.2A
12.8B6.4B9.A$22.AB.6B11.2B.B.17B9.3A6.6B3.2B2.A.A12.8B8.4B10.A$25.7B
3.29B12.A4.2B3D2B4.B.2A2.A10.8B3.2A5.4B5.5A$25.7B2.4BD11B2A13B10.2A4.
4BD2B3.A.A2.A.A9.8B5.A5.4B4.A$25.7B.5B3D9B2A14B9.4B.4B3DB3.2A2.2A.2A
7.8B6.A.AB.7B2.B3A$25.13BDBD20B3.B2A10.11B18.8B8.2AB.7B3.2B.A$22.B2.
15BD19B4.A2.A8.12B17.8B11.12B4A$21.2AB.19B2.2B2.B3.6B5.2A.A7.12B16.8B
12.7B2A3BAB2.2A$21.2A18B14.6B7.A7.11B16.8B13.7B2A2B.B3A2.A$22.2B.17B
11.9B6.2A5.11B10.2A4.8B14.10B3.B.A.2A$25.19B9.2A4.4B9.2B.10B11.A4.8B
14.8B8.A$23.21B10.A5.4B7.18B4.BA.A3.8B14.9B7.2A$22.22B7.3A7.4B3.26B2A
3.8B14.4B2.3B$22.20B.B2A5.A10.32B4.8B14.4B3.5B$23.17B3.BA.A16.32B2.8B
14.4B7.2A$24.8B2.6B6.A17.31B.8B14.4B8.A$24.7B4.6B5.2A17.38B14.4B10.3A
$25.6B4.6B25.36B14.4B13.A$24.6B6.6B25.18B4.2B.9B14.4B$22.2AB.2B8.3BA
3B2.B22.14B10.8B7.A6.4B$21.A.AB11.2BABA7B20.14B9.8B6.3A5.4B$21.A14.2B
ABA7B22.5B4.2B9.9B5.A7.4B$20.2A14.3BA9B22.4B5.2B7.11B4.2A5.4B$34.2AB.
11B23.4B3.B2AB5.8B.9B4.4B$33.A.AB2.9B25.4B3.2A5.8B3.6B5.4B$33.A7.7B
26.4B8.8B4.8B2.4B$32.2A7.6B28.4B6.8B3.15B$42.4B30.4B4.8B4.14B$41.4B
32.4B2.8B5.13B$40.4B34.12B4.2AB.10B$25.A13.4B36.10B4.A.AB3.B2A3B$25.
3A10.4B38.8B5.A6.B2A3B$28.A8.4B38.8B5.2A6.4B$27.2A7.4B5.2A31.8B15.3B$
27.5B3.4B7.A14.2A8.2A4.10B15.2B.BA$29.3B2.4B8.A.AB10.B2AB6.B2AB2.12B
13.B2ABA.A$19.2A7.9B10.2AB.2B7.4B6.4B.14B11.BABABA.A$19.A8.8B13.5B6.
4B7.2B.5B2C7B10.A2.A.A.A.A.2A$16.2A.A.B3.10B14.7B4.5B5.9BCBC6B10.4A.
2A2.A2.A$16.A2.3AB.2B2A7B14.7B3.7B.13BC6B15.A4.2A$17.2A2.BA3B2A7B8.A.
2A2.7B.25B18.A.A$19.4A12B8.2A.A33B20.2A$19.A.2B3.7B.B2A11.32B$20.3AB
2.7B.BA.A11.31B$23.A4.4B5.A11.30B$18.5A5.4B5.2A6.2A.B.30B$18.A10.4B8.
2A.A.A33B2.2A$20.A9.4B8.A.A.B.24B3.2B2ABA2.A$19.2A10.4B5.A.A.2A25B5.A
BAB3A$32.4B4.2A3.B.23B3.A2.A.A$33.4B10.22B4.4A.3A$34.4B10.20B9.A3.A$
35.4B10.18B8.A.A2.2A$36.4B6.20B9.2A$37.4B2.B.20B$38.4B.21B$39.24B$40.
13B.8B$41.11B.8B$42.18B$43.16B$44.14B$43.14B$42.14B$41.14B$40.2A2B.8B
$39.ABAB.9B$38.BA2B2.10B$37.B2AB2.12B$38.2B2.8B2.4B$34.2A2.B2.10B2.4B
$33.B2AB3.12B2.4B$34.2B3.13B3.4B$32.4B2.14B4.4B$31.2BA2B.16B4.4B$30.
2BABA13B2A3B5.4B$29.4BA.13B2A4B5.4B$28.2B3A.B2.5B.11B6.4B$28.2BA2.2B
2.4B2.12BA5.4B$36.4B5.8B2.3A4.4B$35.4B6.7B6.A4.4B$34.4B7.5B5.3A6.4B$
33.4B7.6B5.A9.4B$32.4B9.6B15.4B13.A$32.3B6.B.9B15.4B10.3A$32.2B5.2A
12B15.4B8.A$32.B6.2A12B16.4B7.2A$28.4B7.14B17.4B3.5B$27.4B8.12B.B2A
16.4B2.3B$26.4B7.2AB.9B2.BA.A16.9B7.2A$25.4B7.A.AB.8B6.A17.8B8.A$24.
4B8.A5.8B5.2A17.10B3.B.A.2A$23.BD2B8.2A6.7B24.7B2A2B.B3A2.A$22.2D2B
14.11B23.7B2A3BAB2.2A$21.2B2D14.12B23.12B4A$20.BD2B6.2A7.12B21.2AB.7B
3.2B.A$19.2D2B6.A2.A2.2A2.11B21.A.AB.7B2.B3A$18.2B2D8.2A2.A.A2.8B.4B
19.A5.4B4.A$17.BD2B11.2A.B3.7B4.2A18.2A5.4B5.5A$16.2D2B12.A2.2B2.7B4.
A25.4B10.A$15.2B2D10.2A.A.BA2B.6B6.3A21.4B9.A$14.4B11.A.2A.A.A8B8.A
20.4B10.2A$13.4B16.A.A.8B28.4B$12.4B14.2A2.A4.5B28.4B$11.4B13.3A.2A4.
6B27.4B$10.2B3D.3D.3D4.A4.B6.6B25.4B$9.3BD.D.D3.D7.3AB2AB3.7B24.4B$9.
3BD.D.2D2.2D8.A.2AB.8B24.4B$9.2B.D.D.D3.D13.10B23.4B$6.B2.B2.3D.D3.D
13.6B2A3B21.4B$5.2B27.6B2A2B5.2A14.4B$4.4B26.10B5.A2.A11.4B$3.4B26.
11B2.BA.A.2A10.4B$2.4B27.12B.B2A.A11.4B$.4B27.15B3.A10.4B$4B27.16B3.
3A7.4B$3B25.2B.16B6.A5.4B$2B25.2A18B5.2A4.4B$B26.2AB.17B4.9B$28.B.4B.
8B2.4B5.6B$35.7B4.4B2.8B$36.6B5.15B$38.4B6.14B$40.3BA5.13B$41.BA.A5.
10B.B2A$42.A.A7.3B2AB3.BA.A$43.A8.3B2AB6.A$44.3A7.4B6.2A$46.A7.3B$51.
AB.2B$50.A.AB2AB$50.A.ABABAB$47.2A.A.A.A.A2.A$47.A2.A2.2A.4A$49.2A4.A
$55.A.A$56.2A!

The thing is, the actual TOGGLE mechanism doesn't have an output, so it really shouldn't need a suppression mechanism. If the whole thing were reworked with that in mind, so that one of the reflectors toward the end of the TOGGLE path was a merge circuit, then maybe that whole suppression tangle will turn out not to be necessary. (?)

Re: Thread for your Useful Discoveries

PostPosted: December 13th, 2018, 10:46 pm
by cvojan
Could this conduit be useful if cleaned up?
x = 25, y = 24, rule = LifeHistory
13.2C2.C$6.2C6.3C$5.C.C7.C$5.C$3.C.C7.2C$.3C.2C6.2C$C$.3C.2C$3.C.2C7$
15.2D$14.D.D6.2C$15.D7.2C2$11.D$.D8.2D$.3D5.2D7.2E$.D.D6.D7.2E$3.D7.D
!

Re: Thread for your Useful Discoveries

PostPosted: December 14th, 2018, 2:08 am
by Redstoneboi
cvojan wrote:Could this conduit be useful if cleaned up?
x = 25, y = 24, rule = LifeHistory
13.2C2.C$6.2C6.3C$5.C.C7.C$5.C$3.C.C7.2C$.3C.2C6.2C$C$.3C.2C$3.C.2C7$
15.2D$14.D.D6.2C$15.D7.2C2$11.D$.D8.2D$.3D5.2D7.2E$.D.D6.D7.2E$3.D7.D
!

big still life is actually part of an interrupted conduit 1
#C[[ T 33 PAUSE 1 T 45 T 50 GPS 5 T 51 PAUSE 1 T 59 GPS 30 PAUSE 1 T 97 PAUSE 1 ]]
x = 42, y = 24, rule = LifeHistory
13.2C2.C19.2C2.C$6.2C6.3C11.C.2C6.3C$5.C.C7.C12.2C.C7.C$5.C$3.C.C7.2C
22.2C$.3C.2C6.2C22.2C$C$.3C.2C$3.C.2C7$15.2D$14.D.D6.2C$15.D7.2C2$11.
D$.D8.2D$.3D5.2D7.2E17.3D$.D.D6.D7.2E19.D$3.D7.D26.3D!

Re: Thread for your Useful Discoveries

PostPosted: December 14th, 2018, 9:45 am
by dvgrn
Redstoneboi wrote:
cvojan wrote:Could this conduit be useful if cleaned up?
...
big still life is actually part of an interrupted conduit 1...

Until proven otherwise, it seems like the reaction after the block collision isn't edgy enough to make it likely that a catalyst can magically restore the block and get rid of the other junk. A boojum reflector or rectifier will clean up the two blocks and the boat, which seems fairly magical... but then you just have to put the two blocks back again so it's really more the opposite of magical.

There's a simplification that does allow a cleanup to be done, technically --

x = 228, y = 99, rule = LifeHistory
47.2A$47.A.A$38.2A9.A4.2A95.2A$38.A6.4A.2A2.A2.A94.A$35.BA.A6.A2.A.A.
A.A.2A94.A.AB$35.B2A9.BABABA.A98.2AB$33.3B12.B2ABA.A100.3B$32.4B13.2B
.BA101.4B$29.B.4B13.3B105.4B.B17.2A$18.A8.7B5.2A6.4B106.7B15.A.A$18.
3A6.6B7.A6.B2A3B105.6B7.2A8.A4.2A$21.A4.2B3C2B7.A.AB3.B2A3B105.2B3C2B
6.A5.4A.2A2.A2.A$20.2A4.4BC2B8.2AB.10B103.2BC4B3.BA.A5.A2.A.A.A.A.2A$
20.4B.4B3CB10.13B102.B3C4B2.B2A8.BABABA.A$22.11B10.14B101.11B11.B2ABA
.A$21.12B10.15B100.11B12.2B.BA$21.12B12.8B2.4B99.11B11.3B$21.11B13.6B
5.4B99.11B.2A6.4B$22.7B6.2A7.9B4.4B98.2B.7B3.A6.B2A3B$15.2A5.8B5.A7.
4B4.2A5.4B96.11B3.A.AB3.B2A3B$16.A6.8B.BA.A6.4B5.A7.4B95.10B5.2AB.10B
$16.A.AB2.9B.B2A6.4B7.3A5.4B92.12B7.13B$17.2AB.12B7.4B10.A6.4B89.13B
8.14B$19.14B6.4B19.4B87.17B5.15B$19.12B2A5.4B21.4B86.18B6.8B2.4B$19.
12B2A4.4B23.4B83.2AB.13B2A2B5.6B5.4B$20.9B.B5.4B25.4B81.A.AB3.4B.6B2A
B5.9B4.4B$21.6B8.4B27.4B80.A8.B4.8B3.4B4.2A5.4B$22.6B6.4B29.4B78.2A
15.6B2.4B5.A7.4B$22.5B6.4B31.4B93.7B.4B7.3A5.4B$20.2B2D2BD5.4B33.4B
92.6B.4B10.A6.4B$15.2A2.4B3DB4.4B35.4B92.8B20.4B$14.A.A7BD4B.4B37.4B
91.8B21.4B$14.A3.15B39.4B89.8B23.4B$13.2A3.4B2A8B41.4B13.A65.A8.7B25.
4B$19.3B2A7B43.4B10.3A65.3A6.6B27.4B$19.11B45.4B8.A71.A4.2B3D2B28.4B$
20.9B47.4B7.2A69.2A4.4BD2B29.4B$20.9B48.4B3.5B69.4B.4B3DB30.4B13.A$
20.8B50.4B2.3B73.11B31.4B10.3A$21.8B50.9B7.2A62.12B32.4B8.A$21.8B.B
49.8B8.A62.12B33.4B7.2A$20.13B21.A26.10B3.B.A.2A59.11B35.4B3.5B$19.
15B18.3A26.7B2A2B.B3A2.A60.7B6.2A31.4B2.3B$18.16B17.A29.7B2A3BAB2.2A
54.2A5.8B5.A33.9B7.2A$17.16B12.2B4.2A28.12B4A57.A6.8B.BA.A34.8B8.A$
16.20B9.8B3.B22.2AB.8B2.2B.A57.A.AB2.9B.B2A36.10B3.B.A.2A$15.22B7.7B
4.4B15.2A2.A.AB.7B2.B3A59.2AB.12B38.7B2A2B.B3A2.A$14.23B7.9B.6B15.A2.
A5.5B3.A64.14B38.7B2A3BAB2.2A$4.B2.13BD16B6.10B.6B13.A2.3A5.4B5.5A59.
12B2A38.12B4A$3.7BD8B2D14B7.19B12.3A7.4B10.A59.12B2A36.2AB.8B2.2B.A$
3.7B3D5B2D7B2C6B8.19B14.A5.4B9.A62.9B.B37.A.AB.7B2.B3A$.9BDBD6BD7B2C
6B10.17B13.2A4.4B10.2A62.6B41.A5.5B3.A$.11BD7BD12B13.15B14.9B6.2A68.
6B39.2A5.4B5.5A$BA14B.16B13.17B14.6B7.A33.A35.5B46.4B10.A$ABA10B8.13B
10.22B2.2B2.B3.6B5.2A.A33.3A31.2B2D2BD45.4B9.A$ABA8B12.11B2.2B3.21BD
19B4.A2.A37.A25.2A2.4B3DB44.4B10.2A$.A8B13.7BD24B.4BDBD20B3.B2A37.2A
24.A.A7BD4B41.4B$.10B5.2A6.4BDBD23B2.4B3D9B2A14B38.5B8.A12.A3.12B39.
4B$2.9B6.A6.4B3D23B2.4BD11B2A13B41.4B5.3A11.2A3.4B2A6B38.4B$3.8B3.3A
7.4BD24B4.29B40.7B3.A20.3B2A6B37.4B$3.7B4.A10.29B10.4B.17B39.9B2.2A
19.11B36.4B$4.5B23.4B.16B10.4B3.15B38.11B.3B2.B10.B6.9B36.4B$6.2B25.
3B5.12B6.2A.2BA.B3.15B38.13B3.3B8.2B6.9B35.4B$34.4B6.9B6.A.2BA.A5.13B
38.2A18B7.3B6.8B35.4B$36.2A5.11B6.A2.BA.A2.13B40.2A18B6.B2AB7.8B33.4B
$36.A5.2AB.7B8.A3.A.A.2A4.8B40.B.18B4.2BAB8.8B.B30.4B$37.3A.A.AB2.4B
8.A.4A2.AB2A6.6B43.18B2.BABA8.13B27.4B$39.A.A5.2B2AB6.A.A3.A.A2.B8.5B
41.20B.2B2A8.15B25.4B$40.2A7.2A7.A.A2.A2.2A.2A9.B.B29.B.7B2.25B8.16B
24.4B$59.A3.2A2.A.A9.3B24.B.13B2.24B8.16B24.4B$67.A.A9.B2AB18.21BD23B
8.20B20.4B$68.A11.2A17.D21BD23B2.B5.22B18.4B$96.F.B3D18B2D28B2.23B17.
4B$99.DBD15B2A2B2D35BD16B16.4B$101.D15B2A3BD22B2ABD8B2D14B6.A10.4B$
103.2B2.2B3.11B.21B2AB3D5B2D7B2C6B6.3A7.4B$113.10B2.23BDBD6BD7B2C6B9.
A5.4B$116.6B3.25BD7BD12B10.2A4.4B$118.3B5.28B.16B10.9B6.2A$120.B4.13B
.13B7.13B11.6B7.A$120.2A3.13B2.9B12.11B2.2B2.B3.6B5.2A.A$121.A5.11B3.
7B13.7BD19B4.A2.A$118.3A8.9B4.B11.2A6.4BDBD20B3.B2A$118.A10.8B18.A6.
4B3D9B2A14B$129.8B15.3A7.4BD11B2A13B$131.6B15.A10.29B$131.5B34.4B.17B
$133.3B33.5B2.15B$165.2A.2BA.2B2.15B$165.A.2BA.A5.13B$166.A2.BA.A2.
13B$167.A3.A.A.2A4.8B$165.A.4A2.AB2A6.6B$164.A.A3.A.A2.B8.5B$164.A.A
2.A2.2A.2A9.B.B$165.A3.2A2.A.A9.3B$173.A.A9.B2AB$174.A11.2A!

-- but as usual, by the time you're finished adding the cleanup mechanism, the whole structure is kind of big and awkward and slow to recover, so it doesn't fit gmc_nxtman's criteria for Herschel conduits.

There are hundreds of ways to do this kind of signal deflection / rebuild bait trick, findable by waving various still lifes around in an active reaction's envelope in the Seeds of Destruction Game. Theoretically there might be some situation in which the resulting output signal location is just exactly what's needed and can't be gotten any other way. But in practice it's just not worth collecting all of these awkward mechanisms in hopes that maybe one of them will turn out to be useful somewhere someday.

Re: Thread for your Useful Discoveries

PostPosted: December 14th, 2018, 12:10 pm
by chris_c
cvojan wrote:Could this conduit be useful if cleaned up?


From viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1599&p=23509#p23509

x = 130, y = 79, rule = LifeHistory
107.2A$105.2B2AB$105.4B$105.6B$105.8B$93.7B.B4.6B2A$93.13B.B2.2B2A$
91.C22B$91.BC21BD$90.2B2C18B3DB$18.2A69.2B2C2B2A15BDBD$18.2A69.2BC3B
2A15BD3B$91.11B3.11B$91.10B5.9B$92.6B7.4B.6B$4.7B.B10.2A68.3B8.4B2.6B
$4.13B.B4.2A68.B9.13B$2.C21B68.2A8.4B.10B$2.BC21BD66.A8.4B3.9B$.2B2C
18B3DB63.A.A7.4B5.8B$2B2C2B2A15BDBD64.2A7.4B7.7B6.2A$2BC3B2A15BD3B71.
4B8.2B3D2B6.A$2.11B3.2B2.7B70.4B9.2BD4B3.BA.A$2.10B9.5B70.4B10.B3D4B
2.B2A$3.6B12.6B68.4B11.11B$4.3B14.6B67.4B12.11B$4.B12.10B9.2A55.4B13.
11B$3.2A13.10B8.A55.4B15.11B$3.A15.10B4.BA.A54.4B16.2B.7B$4.A15.12B.B
2A54.4B16.11B$3.2A16.13B55.4B17.10B$21.2B3D8B54.4B16.12B$21.2BD9B42.
2A10.4B15.13B$21.B3D10B41.A9.4B15.17B$21.14B39.A10.4B16.18B$21.13B40.
5A5.4B5.2A8.2AB.13B2A2B$21.14B44.A4.4B5.A8.A.AB3.4B.6B2AB$22.13B41.3A
B2.7B.BA.A8.A8.B4.8B4.2A$25.10B40.A.2B3.7B.B2A8.2A15.6B4.A$24.11B3.2A
35.4A12B26.7B.BA.A$23.12B3.A34.2A2.BA3B2A7B26.6B.2B2A$24.12BA.A33.A2.
3AB.2B2A7B27.8B$23.13B2A34.2A.A.B3.10B27.8B$23.13B39.A8.8B25.8B$23.
13B39.2A7.9B24.7B$21.2AB2.10B49.3B2.4B14.2A7.6B$20.A.AB2.10B47.5B3.4B
14.A6.2B3D2B$20.A6.9B47.2A7.4B13.A.AB3.4BD2B$19.2A5.8B.B2A46.A8.4B13.
2AB2.4B3DB$24.B.7B2.BA.A42.3A10.4B4.A9.11B$23.2A9B4.A42.A13.4B3.3A7.
11B$23.2AB.8B3.2A56.4B5.A6.11B$24.B2.7B2A61.4B3.2AB4.11B$29.B3.BA.A
61.4B2.3B5.7B6.2A$28.3B5.A62.4B2.3B4.8B5.A$27.B2AB5.2A54.2A6.8B5.8B.B
A.A$28.2A63.A6.21B.B2A$93.A.AB2.24B$94.2AB.25B$96.27B$96.26B$96.26B$
96.22B.B$97.20B$98.18B$100.15B$101.13B$101.12B$100.12B$100.6B.4B$101.
9B$101.8B$100.8B$100.7B$101.5B$101.3D2B$102.BDB$102.3D$103.B!

Re: Thread for your Useful Discoveries

PostPosted: April 26th, 2019, 7:21 am
by Hunting
There's an old thread doing the same thing as this thread:
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=667

Re: Thread for your Useful Discoveries

PostPosted: May 2nd, 2019, 8:37 pm
by Kazyan
This p30 reflector can merge glider streams as closely as 1hd apart:

x = 31, y = 25, rule = LifeHistory
A$.2A$2A5$17.4B2A4.B$15.5BA3BA5B$13.2A4BA5BA4B$11.A4BA2BA3BAB2A2B2A$
11.2A6BA5BAB.B2A$11.BA3BA3BA3BA4.B$13.2BA.4B2A$11.5B$11.5B4.3B$10.3A
4B2.5B$8.3A.A2B2A2.5B$7.A4.B.A.A.4B3A.2A$5.A2.2A.2A.A.A.2A2BA.2A.A$5.
2A.A3.A.2A2.A.A.B$8.A3.A5.A.A.2A.2A$8.2A.2A6.2A.A3.A$22.A3.A.A$22.2A
3.2A!