Stable Storage Spaceship Challenge (Super Half Baked)

Post by **dvgrn** » June 24th, 2019, 11:05 am

This idea came up on the Basic Questions thread. It didn't have a particularly simple answer, but it appeared to be a reasonable-sized project. Data storage has never been done quite like this in a B3/S23 pattern, so it seemed like maybe a new thread would be worthwhile.

Moosey wrote:...is it P̶o̶s̶s̶i̶b̶l̶e̶ feasible to make a giant version of the HB reaction, I.e. a giant SL that makes a UCC that makes the SL + a G.

Obviously once you do make such a SL the next challenge is hardly as hard:
Make an SL which is a spaceship when hit by a glider since it regenerates both parts.

I struck through “Possible” since it is, but it’s just not feasible.

The Ship would be really slow, right?
I suppose the SL would be a RCT seed + an extremely long, clean-burning wick + a G seed attached to the wick.
It would probably just be a giant diagonal line, more or less. How disappointing.

So anyways, how difficult would it be to make such a SL?

dvgrn wrote:Well, a still life meeting the original specs is actually perfectly buildable with today's technology. It will run fine in Golly, and will complete a cycle in seconds or minutes at most, not months like the 0E0P metacell. But it definitely wouldn't be a reverse caber tosser seed. That would have a bounding box billions of times bigger than what's needed here.

RCT technology is only useful for cutting down the number of gliders in a synthesis recipe to an absolute minimum of 35. There's no need to drag all that horrible mess of clever mechanisms into this design.

All that's needed here is a way of storing data in the form of still lifes, in a way that can be read and copied -- plus a mechanism that does the reading and copying. The reader/copier destructively reads the data, writes a copy to a new location (with whatever offset you want).

While it's doing the copying, the reader/copier also interprets the data. Each pair of bits, let's say, becomes a single PULL, PUSH, FIRE_WHITE_GLIDER or FIRE_BLACK_GLIDER elbow operation. The resulting slow salvo builds a new copy of the reader/copier at the correct offset. The last glider in the slow salvo initiates a chain reaction that shuts down and destroys the old reader-copier.

Optionally, the self-destruct mechanism can easily include a small attachment that creates the next trigger glider, to make the whole conglomeration into a spaceship.

dvgrn wrote:There are lots of other ways to encode slow salvos, of course. Could get away with an encoding in trinary instead of binary, for example, since monochromatic slow salvos are universal. Or we could build a complicated mechanism that alternates between two parallel construction arms, to make single PUSHes and PULLs move the FIRE lane by just a half-diagonal instead of a full diagonal.

Once we've jumped from binary to trinary, it would probably make sense to go on to a base-four encoding system. Something like this would work reasonably well, for example:

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x = 144, y = 134, rule = LifeHistory
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The memory would be read by a slide gun, producing four streams of output. The four streams could feed into four slide-gun mechanisms. All four slide guns' elbow positions would be incremented any time a signal appeared on any stream, but the "write boat" operation for each slide gun would only be triggered by a glider appearing in its particular stream.

Then signals would also be split off from each stream to run a construction arm's PUSH, PULL, FIRE_WHITE_GLIDER, and FIRE_BLACK_GLIDER salvos.

There are a few other small problems, such as cleaning up the various slide-gun elbows when the reading and writing work is done, but that can all be handled easily with one-time circuitry.

dvgrn wrote:Another interesting option would be to design a complete seed for a reading mechanism using only very predictable pieces -- well-separated blocks, let's say, and nothing else. It's technically possible to do a destructive read on an entire block field, print two exact copies of whatever blocks are found, and then send a trigger glider into one of the copies to build the child reading mechanism and destroy the parent reading mechanism.

This would probably be very much slower to complete a cycle than the above base-4 slow salvo design, because the reader would have to sequentially check every possible block position in a large area. But it would probably have a much smaller bounding box, because the memory area could be a fairly compact diamond instead of a huge width-4 linear tape. Slow salvos are expensive, and this design wouldn't need one.

So which of these would need the least effort to complete? It's not necessarily the design with the smallest amount of circuitry, because we save an awful lot of effort if the design can support slsparse-compatible polychromatic P2 slow salvos. Otherwise we have to worry about writing a custom compiler for monochromatic slow salvos, or whatever other painful universal construction method the design supports.

I guess the simplest mechanism I can think of is basically Paul Chapman's old memory-tape design. The four standard elbow operations would be encoded in unary, so there would be two parallel tapes, and there would always be a 1 (reflecting boat) at any given position on either one tape or the other.

The two tapes would be read by a single slide gun, and a copy of the data would be written either by two separate slide guns, or possibly by a single slide gun if someone can come up with workable recipes to put a reflecting boat in two possible well-separated locations along the same diagonal.

Post by **dvgrn** » June 24th, 2019, 11:33 am

Storing PUSH / PULL / FIREWHITE / FIREBLACK elbow operations in unary would mean we'd need some kind of ladder mechanism, like the one in constructor-memory-tape.rle and constructor-memory-loop.rle. The data on the two parallel tapes could be interpreted as

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RESET    # No INC before reset means PUSH
INC
INC
RESET    # Two INCs before RESET means FIREWHITE
INC
RESET    # One INC before RESET means PULL
INC
INC
INC
RESET    # Three INCs before RESET means FIREBLACK

So, what's the simplest ladder circuit that we can build these days, with slsparse-compatible pieces? There must be something available now that's a lot simpler than what I came up with in 2004.

Is there a more efficient way to store data on a tape? We could have a choice of a block or boat at each location on a single tape, for example. The boat would return a glider and the block would absorb it. The downside would be that we'd need to have a synchronized timing gun running in the interpretation circuitry, to produce an output signal whenever one doesn't come back from the tape.

-- Or we'd have to send back a second glider from the READ mechanism every time, along with the optional one reflected back by the boat. That wouldn't be bad either, but it might come out more expensive than just having a reflecting boat in two well-separated positions.

Yes, It's A Lot of Bits
This is an impressively inefficient way to store slow-salvo information, compared to an active tape of gliders storing a single-channel recipe. But I guess that's what we're stuck with if we want all the data to be frozen into still-life form at some point in the cycle.

The alternative is to build a direct detect-and-copy mechanism for a nice-sized 2D area, as mentioned in the last quote in the previous post. That would be even slower than the linear tape method, but at least it wouldn't be Yet Another Long Boring Straight Line. Anyone want to vote for tackling that version of the project instead?

Moosey · Post by **Moosey** » June 24th, 2019, 7:18 pm

Just want to say, I wrote this a while ago
http://www.conwaylife.com/forums/viewto ... f=2&t=4020

What if you do sort of like the last design you proposed (in the 1st post here) where you somehow duplicate a (linear?) UCC seed and then destroy the current UCC?
That is, where green dots are UCCs, white dots are UCC seeds, and Yellow dots are self-destructing UCCs:

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x = 6, y = 55, rule = B/S012345678History
2.AC4$2.A$2.A$2.A$5A$.3A$2.A6$2.A.2C4$2.A$2.A$2.A$2.A$2.A$5A$.3A$2.A
7$2.E.2C5$2.A$2.A$2.A$2.A$2.A$2.A$5A$.3A$2.A8$4.AC!
#c not viewonly so that you can edit the schematic.

Post by **dvgrn** » June 24th, 2019, 7:53 pm

Moosey wrote:Just want to say, I wrote this a while ago
http://www.conwaylife.com/forums/viewto ... f=2&t=4020

Oops, sorry about that! I did read back through your posts to see if you'd written something up, but I must not have gone back quite far enough.

If it's okay, I think I'll just answer that post on this thread, and try to keep everything in one place from here.

Moosey wrote:What if you do sort of like the last design you proposed (in the 1st post here) where you somehow duplicate a (linear?) UCC seed and then destroy the current UCC?
That is, where green dots are UCCs, white dots are UCC seeds, and Yellow dots are self-destructing UCCs:
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x = 6, y = 55, rule = B/S012345678History
2.AC4$2.A$2.A$2.A$5A$.3A$2.A6$2.A.2C4$2.A$2.A$2.A$2.A$2.A$5A$.3A$2.A
7$2.E.2C5$2.A$2.A$2.A$2.A$2.A$2.A$5A$.3A$2.A8$4.AC!
#c not viewonly so that you can edit the schematic.

Yes, that's pretty much what I was thinking. The gap appears between the active green UCC and the two copies of the white seed UCC, because we don't have any workable way of reading the locations of blocks in a Blockic UCC seed without destroying them in the process. So we read the blocks once, write two identical copies, and then trigger the first copy to produce a new UCC.

The westernmost part of the copy could produce a meteor shower of gliders to shoot down the old UCC, I guess, or self-destruct circuitry could be included.

The problem is that I'd really like the Blockic UCC seed to be two-dimensional -- ideally kind of squarish in shape, not some long thin thing that's basically just a freeze-dried slsparse slow salvo. Send in one glider, and construction gliders start flying in all directions to build the necessary circuitry. But I don't think I'm actually ambitious enough to try to design something like that.

I can probably manage a compiler, though... i.e., something that takes an slsparse slow-salvo recipe and produces a Blockic slow-salvo seed with the blocks far enough apart that they can be directly read and copied.

After that, one obvious problem will be coming up with a way for the Space Scanning System to know when to stop scanning... I can't quite tell yet if this is all just a terrible idea, but it seems good enough to follow a little further.

Post by **dvgrn** » June 24th, 2019, 8:12 pm

Moosey wrote:Re:
making things spartan:
which of these is more spartan? probably the bottom?
Otherwise there's an obvious improvement.

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x = 8, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
2o$o5b2o$b3obobo$3bobo$5bo$5bobo$6b2o5$2o$o5b2o$b3obobo$3bobo$4b2o!

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#C both are 5G, but I don't know which has a cheaper slow salvo synth. Near-certainly the bottom.
x = 29, y = 55, rule = B3/S23
24bo$22b2o$13bo9b2o$14b2o$13b2o3$15bo4bo$15b2o2b2o$14bobo2bobo2$27bo$
26b2o$26bobo16$15bobo$15b2o$8bo7bo$6bobo$7b2o3$9bo$10bo$8b3o3$11bo$11b
obo$11b2o9$2o$b2o$o!

Yes, the 14-bit still life at the bottom is already something that slsparse knows how to build, in all orientations, as part of the 135-degree MWSS-to-G.

Even if the other still life had a cheaper conventional synthesis, it would still take quite a bit of work to build a seed for it and add it to slsparse's library. Might as well just stick with what's already in there, and try not to include any new unknown stuff in the design.

Moosey wrote:I can't do this yet, of course, but I could perhaps help with the project in other ways.

I'd be curious if you can run slsparse successfully, based on the current tutorial. Don't worry about building a Demonoid, just see if you can run slsparse using the infile.mc that's supplied by default. It should build four of these things (45-degree MWSS-to-G) fairly quickly:

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x = 27, y = 23, rule = B3/S23
8b2o15b2o$5bo3bo15bo$4bobo2bobo11bobo$4bobo3b2o11b2o$2b3ob2o9bo$bo14bo
bo$2b3ob2o8bobo$4bob2o9bo3$5b2o$4bobo$bo2bo$obob2o13b2o$2o2bo14bo$4bob
o13b3o$5b2o15bo$12b3o$12bo2bo$12bo$12bo3bo$12bo$13bobo!

Then if you edit infile.mc and add a scattering of random small stuff, and re-run slsparse, you should get a recipe that builds the scattered small stuff along with the four converters, again fairly quickly.

Probably I should add a simpler tutorial that doesn't go on and on about irrelevant Demonoid stuff. Maybe set that as a first goal?

Moosey · Post by **Moosey** » June 30th, 2019, 6:26 pm

so, how do I use slsparse? I cannot find infile.mc

Would this happen to do with the fact that I am on a mac?

Post by **dvgrn** » July 1st, 2019, 7:13 am

Moosey wrote:so, how do I use slsparse? I cannot find infile.mc

Would this happen to do with the fact that I am on a mac?

And yet you found and compiled slsparse.cpp? That's odd -- the two files are in the same folder.

Definitely start by using git to clone the slmake repository (link above). If this means you need to learn the basics of using git, then that's the first step instead.

Moosey · Post by **Moosey** » July 1st, 2019, 1:00 pm

dvgrn wrote:
Moosey wrote:so, how do I use slsparse? I cannot find infile.mc

Would this happen to do with the fact that I am on a mac?
And yet you found and compiled slsparse.cpp? That's odd -- the two files are in the same folder.

Definitely start by using git to clone the slmake repository (link above). If this means you need to learn the basics of using git, then that's the first step instead.

Here's a ridiculous update.
After a little monkeying around (partly to get around "A folder cannot be replaced by an item it contains",) I have found infile.mc.

What do I do to get slsparse to work?

I've just done this:

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Moosey's_Computer:slmake Moosey$ ./slsparse.cpp
Downloading lifelib...
Submodule 'lifelib' (https://gitlab.com/apgoucher/lifelib.git) registered for path 'lifelib'
Cloning into '/Users/Moosey/slmake/lifelib'...
Submodule path 'lifelib': checked out 'b5c880ea171ac308aba4a80ba4e9dca4e37f1205'
Compiling...
readlink: illegal option -- f
usage: readlink [-n] [file ...]
ld: can't open output file for writing: , errno=2 for architecture x86_64
clang: error: linker command failed with exit code 1 (use -v to see invocation)
...compiled.
Mon Jul  1 12:58:44 EDT 2019

also, when I say ./slsparse it responds with:

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Moosey's computer: slmake Moosey$ ./slsparse
-bash: ./slsparse: No such file or directory

Post by **dvgrn** » July 1st, 2019, 2:24 pm

Moosey wrote:

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readlink: illegal option -- f
usage: readlink [-n] [file ...]
ld: can't open output file for writing: , errno=2 for architecture x86_64
clang: error: linker command failed with exit code 1 (use -v to see invocation)

How old is your Mac? Lifelib is designed for x86-64 processors, as described here. When you get a compile error like the above, there won't be any executable file made, so slsparse is guaranteed to not work until the compile problem is solved.

I haven't tried getting slsparse working on a Mac, so if there are other gotchas, I hope someone else more experienced will chime in here.

Post by **calcyman** » July 1st, 2019, 3:10 pm

dvgrn wrote:
Moosey wrote:
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readlink: illegal option -- f
usage: readlink [-n] [file ...]
ld: can't open output file for writing: , errno=2 for architecture x86_64
clang: error: linker command failed with exit code 1 (use -v to see invocation)
How old is your Mac? Lifelib is designed for x86-64 processors, as described here. When you get a compile error like the above, there won't be any executable file made, so slsparse is guaranteed to not work until the compile problem is solved.

I haven't tried getting slsparse working on a Mac, so if there are other gotchas, I hope someone else more experienced will chime in here.

The problem is that Apple's version of readlink doesn't accept the -f parameter. That means you need to manually compile instead of executing the source file.

Moosey · Post by **Moosey** » July 1st, 2019, 3:19 pm

calcyman wrote:
dvgrn wrote:
Moosey wrote:
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readlink: illegal option -- f
usage: readlink [-n] [file ...]
ld: can't open output file for writing: , errno=2 for architecture x86_64
clang: error: linker command failed with exit code 1 (use -v to see invocation)
How old is your Mac? Lifelib is designed for x86-64 processors, as described here. When you get a compile error like the above, there won't be any executable file made, so slsparse is guaranteed to not work until the compile problem is solved.

I haven't tried getting slsparse working on a Mac, so if there are other gotchas, I hope someone else more experienced will chime in here.
The problem is that Apple's version of readlink doesn't accept the -f parameter. That means you need to manually compile instead of executing the source file.

How do I do that?

I’m sort of a coding newbie, I can write stuff in python and not much else.

Post by **dvgrn** » July 1st, 2019, 3:20 pm

calcyman wrote:The problem is that Apple's version of readlink doesn't accept the -f parameter. That means you need to manually compile instead of executing the source file.

I'm not sure Moosey is in the category of consummate C++ compiler experts who will know what "manually compile" means, though. The sneaky self-compiling code in slmake.cpp seems to say it will be something like

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g++ -std=c++11 -O3 -march=native -pedantic -Wall -Wextra slmake.cpp -o slsparse

(?)

I'm on a borrowed laptop today, and anyway I can't really check to see if I've gotten everything right to work on a Mac. But it might work with a little luck. The output executable filename will be "slsparse" (the last parameter).

Post by **calcyman** » July 1st, 2019, 4:23 pm

dvgrn wrote:I'm on a borrowed laptop today, and anyway I can't really check to see if I've gotten everything right to work on a Mac. But it might work with a little luck. The output executable filename will be "slsparse" (the last parameter).

Almost -- the source file is slsparse.cpp, so it should be:

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g++ -std=c++11 -O3 -march=native -pedantic -Wall -Wextra slsparse.cpp -o slsparse

Although, looking at the code, I probably don't need to have readlink -f in there anyway.

Moosey · Post by **Moosey** » July 4th, 2019, 8:26 pm

I have sorta postponed attempting to run slmake for awhile— I will try tomorrow.
In the meantime, is there any other stuff that I could work on to help with the SS-SS?
To quote googolplex/googoIpIex,

googoIpIex wrote:I really want to help this, but I have no Idea how...

How much of a project is this, anyways? How does one go about actually building the SS-SS (SHBK)?

I suppose so far we don’t know what we even want to build since there are a few different ideas by dvgrn.

Since I have zero experience in the too-big-to-run-satisfactorily-quickly-in-golly department, I don’t know what to do.
Do we just choose a design and run with it until we find a SS-SS or find a fatal flaw?

EDIT:
alright, I ran it successfully!
I synthesized this:

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x = 244, y = 261, rule = B3/S23
86bo15b2o$86b3o13bobo$89bo14bo2b2o$88b2o13b2obobo$104bo2bo$102bobo$
102b2o3$91bo9b2obo$90bobo8b2ob3o$90bobo14bo$91bo9b2ob3o$84b2o11b2o3bob
o$83bobo11bobo2bobo$83bo15bo3bo$82b2o15b2o29$227bo$227b3o$230bo$229b2o
$242b2o$242bo$240bobo$240b2o$232b2o$231bo2bo$232b2o5$229b2o$230bo$227b
3o$227bo$231bob2o$229b3ob2o2b2o3b2o$228bo8bo2bo2bo$229b3ob2o3b5o$231bo
bo$231bobo6bo$232bo6bobo$240b2o3$2bo$bobo$bobo144b2o$2ob2o142bobo$129b
o2bo14bo$129b4o15bo$147b2o$129b2o$129b2o12$138b2o$138b2o40$39b2o$39bob
o6bo$40bo6bobo$47bobo$38b5o3b2ob3o$37bo2bo2bo8bo$37b2o3b2o2b2ob3o$46b
2obo$53bo$51b3o$50bo$50b2o5$47b2o$46bo2bo$47b2o$39b2o$38bobo$38bo$37b
2o$50b2o$50bo$51b3o$53bo29$180b2o15b2o$177bo3bo15bo$176bobo2bobo11bobo
$176bobo3b2o11b2o$174b3ob2o9bo$173bo14bobo$174b3ob2o8bobo$176bob2o9bo
3$177b2o$176bobo$173bo2bo$172bobob2o13b2o$172b2o2bo14bo$176bobo13b3o$
177b2o15bo53$242b2o$242b2o!

What next?

Moosey · Post by **Moosey** » July 5th, 2019, 8:24 am

sorry about the 2x post, but as I said above:

Moosey wrote: alright, I ran [slmake/slsparse] successfully!
I synthesized this:
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<irrelevant>
What next?

Post by **dvgrn** » July 5th, 2019, 9:48 am

Moosey wrote:What next?

Well, there's a good bit of basic development work to be done for this option:

dvgrn wrote:I guess the simplest mechanism I can think of is basically Paul Chapman's old memory-tape design. The four standard elbow operations would be encoded in unary, so there would be two parallel tapes, and there would always be a 1 (reflecting boat) at any given position on either one tape or the other.

We need two slide guns that push their elbows 6fd with each increment. Or the increment could be 1 or 2 or 3 full diagonals, I suppose, and we could trigger the slide gun 6 or 3 or 2 times. So the first step is probably to do a survey of existing diagonal slide-gun technology, and see what looks like it will cost the least to build with slmake.

The slide gun will have to support six elbow operations:

WRITE / COPY stage:

INC6 (or INC3 or INC2 or INC1, or any larger increment than 6 would be fine too)
WRITE-BOAT (a safe distance off to one side, in the correct orientation)
(elbow should be left in the same location it started, or at some INC6 multiple away)
DESTROY-ELBOW (get rid of the faraway elbow when the copy stage is complete)

READ stage:

RESET (rebuild elbow at the zero position of the slide guns)
INC6 (or whatever it is)
READ (sideways glider aimed at the one-time-turner boat, sending a signal back toward the slide guns)

Here I'm thinking there should be two slide guns for the WRITE stage, but only one for the READ stage.

This is a chunk of research that will take some time and patience to do really well. The better we can optimize the salvos and mechanisms needed to write boats along two "memory tape" diagonals", the less construction will have to be done, and the shorter the memory tape will have to be.

On the other hand, we don't have to make a reallly nice optimized design. We could just follow calcyman's many good examples from past years, and build the first thing that works and not worry about how big it is. I would guess that this particular design won't end up being "too-big-to-run-satisfactorily-quickly-in-golly", no matter how inefficient the implementation is.

There are just endless possible clever ideas that _could_ lead to smaller circuit mechanisms. Examples:

WRITE the tapes by moving the elbow in one direction, then READ them while moving the elbow back in the opposite direction (no RESET needed)
if WRITE happens from far to near, then replace the INC recipe with a BUILD-SPLITTER recipe in the WRITE stage.
(Then the READ stage can be done by sending in just a single glider -- no big recipes needed there.)
Copy the bits from the parent tape in some useful intermediate form (blocks, let's say),
with the elbow moving in one direction.
Then pull the elbow back in the other direction, and use a clever READ reaction
to check if a block is present,
and build a boat far off to one side if it is present,
and build a boat far off to the other side if it isn't present.

This last isn't as difficult as it seems. With a little experimentation, you could design a reaction that would (for example) always build both boats, but would then send a glider to destroy one of them if a block is present in the right place -- or create a spark that would destroy the other boat if the block isn't present.

If we can get enough people interested in the design problem, then this could turn into a nice little competition. But the best way to get people interested would be to build a huge, ugly, and inefficient working model first.

Post by **dvgrn** » July 5th, 2019, 2:11 pm

Moosey wrote:EDIT:
alright, I ran it successfully!
I synthesized this...

Awesome! It's really important to be able to run slmake, and to get some practice with it. The nice thing is that slmake knows so many different recipes for simple objects like boats, that you can trick it into giving you workable solutions for the kind of slide-gun bit-writing technology that we're looking for.

For example, try compiling this infile pattern with slmake:

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x = 42, y = 30, rule = LifeHistory
39.A$38.A.A$17.2A18.A2.A$17.2A17.A3.2A$35.A$34.A$22.2A9.A$4.A17.2A8.A
$2A.A.A25.A$2A.A2.A23.A$4.A.A22.A$5.A22.A$27.A$27.2A$29.A$27.2A$27.A$
28.A$29.A$30.A$31.A$32.A$33.A$34.A$35.A$36.A$37.A$38.A$39.A.A$40.2A!

Still lifes 32 bits or larger are ignored for the purposes of constructing, but slmake will only give you solutions that don't damage those still lifes. (Or it will go into an infinite loop trying to find something, in which case you'll have to Ctrl+C and try a slightly different search.)

In this case, slmake goes a little crazy and decides it has to use a zero-degree elbow... but if you run its suggested output and read between the lines a little, you can see that it's suggesting the following nine-glider recipe to build the two-block one-time turner at a safe offset:

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x = 468, y = 478, rule = B3/S23
16b2o$16b2o3$21b2o$21b2o4$2o$2o11$17b2o$16b2o$18bo57$74bo$73b2o$73bobo
52$128bo$127b2o$127bobo48$179b2o$178b2o$180bo57$235b2o$235bobo$235bo
69$308bo$307b2o$307bobo64$366b2o$365b2o$367bo51$430b2o$429b2o$431bo40$
465b3o$465bo$466bo!

It looks like with this recipe we would need an INC8 between bits on the tape. But the elbow block gets used up, so we'll have to add an elbow duplicator recipe before the nine gliders... and we have to make sure that there's enough clearance that whatever INC8 recipe we choose doesn't conflict with the one-time turners that may already have been written to the tape.

See if you can apply a similar method to use slmake to find a slow-salvo INC8 recipe that doesn't damage any already-built two-block reflectors. Also try huntin for a usable elbow duplicator to put in before the above WRITE-TWO-BLOCKS recipe. Expect a lot of trial and error as you get used to slmake -- and ask questions if none of this makes any sense yet, of course.

The solutions we get aren't going to be optimal, or anywhere close to it. But on the other hand it will be really easy to build Spartan shotguns for these recipes, because the gliders won't have to be synchronized with each other.

EDIT: All kinds of things I tried for compiling a compatible INC8 didn't work -- slmake somewhat mysteriously went into infinite loops. So I'd better give a sample of an infile that does work:

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x = 155, y = 155, rule = LifeHistory
153.2A$153.2A7$145.2D$145.2D54$115.2A$114.A.A$113.A$112.A$111.A$110.A
$109.A$108.A$107.A$106.A$105.A$104.A$103.A$102.A$102.2A$104.A$102.2A$
102.A$103.A$104.A$105.A$106.A$107.A$108.A$109.A$110.A$111.A$112.A$
113.A$114.A.A$115.2A57$4.A$2A.A.A$2A.A2.A$4.A.A$5.A!

It might also be a good idea to expand the search a bit more before fixating on this two-blocks solution. Boat turners will pack better than pairs of blocks, butI had trouble getting slmake to compile boat recipes with a big enough offset from the construction lanes. I didn't try very hard to fix that problem before switching to the two-blocks turner, though. Or maybe something else, like a fishhook eater, will turn out to be a better option for a one-time turner to be constructed at an offset.

Moosey · Post by **Moosey** » July 6th, 2019, 9:44 am

dvgrn wrote:
Moosey wrote:What next?
Well, theres a good bit of basic development work to be done for this option:
<snip>

How would I do THAT?
I can't do engineering that kinda thing yet.

Post by **dvgrn** » July 6th, 2019, 10:10 am

Moosey wrote:
dvgrn wrote:
Moosey wrote:What next?
Well, theres a good bit of basic development work to be done for this option:
<snip>
How would I do THAT?
I can't do engineering that kinda thing yet.

Sure you can -- you just don't know it yet. It's just a bunch of figure-out-what-you-want, copy-paste-try-things-out, understand-why-it-didn't-work, think-of-a-workaround, rinse, repeat... a lot of times, probably.

Everything I wrote in the next two posts after that line was an attempted answer to "How would I do THAT?" So what's the first thing you still don't understand after reading through all that boring stuff carefully five times or so?

There aren't any shortcuts to understanding, unfortunately. If you just keep asking vague questions without trying to build anything yourself, then when the answers are all assembled for you, it won't actually be you doing any of the work. But if you build something and then find that it has flaws, then someone can suggest patches for your design, and it will still be your design.

The way I'd go about it is to either invent or borrow a complete set of slide-gun glider recipes, that can do every operation that this pattern is going to need to do on the memory tapes. Once you have the recipes, everything else is just a bunch of shotgun construction and fitting pieces together. And if the recipes you find are unnecessarily long and complicated, maybe someone will be able to suggest simplifications.

That final construction stage might be a bit tedious, because it looks like some of the glider recipes will be kind of long. But it will be a simple list of about a dozen mechanisms, and each one can be constructed separately and fitted into place, until they're all done. This is exactly how David Bell built the Collatz 5N+1 unknown-fate pattern, for example.

Then it's just a matter of compiling the whole combined pattern with slmake, and writing a short script to translate the resulting recipe into a long line of still lifes on the memory tape -- and you'll (finally) be done!

Moosey · Post by **Moosey** » July 6th, 2019, 11:06 am

here's how slmake suggest making a boat from the side:

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x = 13110, y = 13113, rule = B3/S23
13108b2o$13108b2o5$13105b2o$13104bobo$13106bo25$13078bo$13078b2o$
13077bobo21$13055b2o$13054bobo$13056bo22$13031b3o$13033bo$13032bo20$
13009bo$13009b2o$13008bobo21$12986b2o$12985bobo$12987bo21$12963b2o$
12962bobo$12964bo21$12940b3o$12942bo$12941bo26$12912b2o$12913b2o$
12912bo20$12890bo$12890b2o$12889bobo21$12867b2o$12866bobo$12868bo23$
12842bo$12842b2o$12841bobo21$12819b2o$12820b2o$12819bo21$12796b3o$
12798bo$12797bo21$12773b2o$12774b2o$12773bo20$12751bo$12751b2o$12750bo
bo21$12728b2o$12729b2o$12728bo20$12706bo$12706b2o$12705bobo25$12679b2o
$12680b2o$12679bo20$12657bo$12657b2o$12656bobo21$12634b2o$12633bobo$
12635bo21$12611b2o$12612b2o$12611bo21$12588b3o$12590bo$12589bo20$
12566b2o$12565bobo$12567bo25$12539bo$12539b2o$12538bobo21$12516b2o$
12517b2o$12516bo20$12494bo$12494b2o$12493bobo21$12471b2o$12472b2o$
12471bo20$12449bo$12449b2o$12448bobo26$12421b3o$12423bo$12422bo20$
12399bo$12399b2o$12398bobo22$12375b3o$12377bo$12376bo20$12353b2o$
12352bobo$12354bo31$12320b2o$12319bobo$12321bo27$12291b2o$12292b2o$
12291bo30$12259b3o$12261bo$12260bo20$12237bo$12237b2o$12236bobo21$
12214b2o$12215b2o$12214bo21$12191b3o$12193bo$12192bo21$12168bo$12168b
2o$12167bobo21$12145b2o$12146b2o$12145bo26$12117bo$12117b2o$12116bobo
39$12076b2o$12077b2o$12076bo56$12018b2o$12017bobo$12019bo38$11978b2o$
11979b2o$11978bo20$11956bo$11956b2o$11955bobo37$11917b2o$11916bobo$
11918bo30$11885b3o$11887bo$11886bo21$11862b2o$11863b2o$11862bo27$
11833bo$11833b2o$11832bobo21$11810b2o$11811b2o$11810bo21$11787b3o$
11789bo$11788bo20$11765b2o$11764bobo$11766bo21$11742b2o$11743b2o$
11742bo25$11715b2o$11714bobo$11716bo21$11692b2o$11693b2o$11692bo21$
11669bo$11669b2o$11668bobo21$11646b2o$11645bobo$11647bo21$11623b2o$
11624b2o$11623bo21$11600b2o$11601b2o$11600bo20$11578bo$11578b2o$11577b
obo28$11548b2o$11547bobo$11549bo21$11525b3o$11527bo$11526bo20$11503b2o
$11502bobo$11504bo25$11476bo$11476b2o$11475bobo21$11453b2o$11452bobo$
11454bo21$11430bo$11430b2o$11429bobo21$11407b2o$11406bobo$11408bo37$
11368b2o$11367bobo$11369bo21$11345b2o$11346b2o$11345bo21$11322b3o$
11324bo$11323bo29$11291b2o$11290bobo$11292bo21$11268b3o$11270bo$11269b
o20$11246bo$11246b2o$11245bobo21$11223b2o$11222bobo$11224bo21$11200b2o
$11201b2o$11200bo35$11163b3o$11165bo$11164bo20$11141b2o$11140bobo$
11142bo26$11113bo$11113b2o$11112bobo21$11090b2o$11091b2o$11090bo23$
11065bo$11065b2o$11064bobo21$11042b2o$11043b2o$11042bo21$11019b3o$
11021bo$11020bo20$10997b2o$10996bobo$10998bo25$10970bo$10970b2o$10969b
obo21$10947b2o$10946bobo$10948bo22$10923b3o$10925bo$10924bo20$10901bo$
10901b2o$10900bobo21$10878b2o$10877bobo$10879bo21$10855b2o$10854bobo$
10856bo21$10832b3o$10834bo$10833bo22$10808b2o$10809b2o$10808bo21$
10785b3o$10787bo$10786bo20$10763b2o$10762bobo$10764bo21$10740b2o$
10741b2o$10740bo20$10718bo$10718b2o$10717bobo39$10677b3o$10679bo$
10678bo20$10655bo$10655b2o$10654bobo21$10632b2o$10631bobo$10633bo21$
10609b2o$10610b2o$10609bo21$10586b3o$10588bo$10587bo20$10564bo$10564b
2o$10563bobo24$10538b2o$10537bobo$10539bo31$10505b3o$10507bo$10506bo
25$10478b2o$10479b2o$10478bo21$10455b3o$10457bo$10456bo21$10432b2o$
10431bobo$10433bo21$10409b2o$10410b2o$10409bo21$10386b3o$10388bo$
10387bo42$10342bo$10342b2o$10341bobo21$10319b2o$10320b2o$10319bo21$
10296b3o$10298bo$10297bo21$10273b2o$10272bobo$10274bo21$10250b2o$
10251b2o$10250bo23$10225bo$10225b2o$10224bobo21$10202b2o$10201bobo$
10203bo41$10159b2o$10160b2o$10159bo21$10136b3o$10138bo$10137bo25$
10109b2o$10108bobo$10110bo21$10086b2o$10087b2o$10086bo37$10047b2o$
10048b2o$10047bo20$10025bo$10025b2o$10024bobo28$9995b2o$9994bobo$9996b
o21$9972b3o$9974bo$9973bo20$9950b2o$9949bobo$9951bo21$9927b3o$9929bo$
9928bo20$9905b2o$9904bobo$9906bo21$9882b2o$9883b2o$9882bo21$9859b3o$
9861bo$9860bo25$9832b2o$9833b2o$9832bo21$9809b3o$9811bo$9810bo21$9786b
2o$9785bobo$9787bo21$9763b2o$9764b2o$9763bo21$9740b3o$9742bo$9741bo21$
9717b3o$9719bo$9718bo20$9695b2o$9694bobo$9696bo28$9665b2o$9666b2o$
9665bo20$9643bo$9643b2o$9642bobo21$9620b2o$9621b2o$9620bo25$9593b2o$
9592bobo$9594bo21$9570b2o$9571b2o$9570bo21$9547b2o$9546bobo$9548bo21$
9524b2o$9525b2o$9524bo22$9500b2o$9499bobo$9501bo21$9477b3o$9479bo$
9478bo20$9455b2o$9454bobo$9456bo29$9424b3o$9426bo$9425bo20$9402bo$
9402b2o$9401bobo31$9369bo$9369b2o$9368bobo21$9346b2o$9347b2o$9346bo22$
9322bo$9322b2o$9321bobo21$9299b2o$9298bobo$9300bo21$9276b2o$9277b2o$
9276bo24$9250b2o$9249bobo$9251bo21$9227b2o$9228b2o$9227bo20$9205bo$
9205b2o$9204bobo27$9176bo$9176b2o$9175bobo21$9153b2o$9154b2o$9153bo26$
9125b2o$9126b2o$9125bo20$9103bo$9103b2o$9102bobo26$9075b3o$9077bo$
9076bo20$9053bo$9053b2o$9052bobo22$9029b3o$9031bo$9030bo20$9007bo$
9007b2o$9006bobo37$8968b2o$8967bobo$8969bo25$8941b3o$8943bo$8942bo20$
8919bo$8919b2o$8918bobo21$8896b2o$8897b2o$8896bo33$8861b3o$8863bo$
8862bo20$8839bo$8839b2o$8838bobo24$8813bo$8813b2o$8812bobo21$8790b2o$
8789bobo$8791bo21$8767b3o$8769bo$8768bo21$8744b2o$8745b2o$8744bo24$
8718b2o$8719b2o$8718bo21$8695b3o$8697bo$8696bo20$8673bo$8673b2o$8672bo
bo34$8637b2o$8636bobo$8638bo21$8614b2o$8615b2o$8614bo25$8587bo$8587b2o
$8586bobo37$8548b3o$8550bo$8549bo38$8508b2o$8507bobo$8509bo21$8485b3o$
8487bo$8486bo20$8463bo$8463b2o$8462bobo22$8439b3o$8441bo$8440bo38$
8399bo$8399b2o$8398bobo26$8371b3o$8373bo$8372bo20$8349b2o$8348bobo$
8350bo21$8326bo$8326b2o$8325bobo21$8303b2o$8302bobo$8304bo21$8280b2o$
8281b2o$8280bo22$8256bo$8256b2o$8255bobo21$8233b2o$8234b2o$8233bo20$
8211bo$8211b2o$8210bobo22$8187b3o$8189bo$8188bo20$8165bo$8165b2o$8164b
obo21$8142b2o$8143b2o$8142bo20$8120bo$8120b2o$8119bobo21$8097b2o$8098b
2o$8097bo59$8036bo$8036b2o$8035bobo21$8013b2o$8014b2o$8013bo25$7986b2o
$7985bobo$7987bo21$7963b2o$7964b2o$7963bo21$7940b2o$7941b2o$7940bo20$
7918bo$7918b2o$7917bobo21$7895b2o$7896b2o$7895bo20$7873bo$7873b2o$
7872bobo22$7849b3o$7851bo$7850bo20$7827b2o$7826bobo$7828bo25$7800bo$
7800b2o$7799bobo21$7777b2o$7776bobo$7778bo22$7753b3o$7755bo$7754bo20$
7731bo$7731b2o$7730bobo21$7708b2o$7707bobo$7709bo21$7685b2o$7684bobo$
7686bo21$7662b3o$7664bo$7663bo22$7638b2o$7639b2o$7638bo21$7615b3o$
7617bo$7616bo20$7593b2o$7592bobo$7594bo21$7570b2o$7571b2o$7570bo20$
7548bo$7548b2o$7547bobo39$7507b3o$7509bo$7508bo20$7485bo$7485b2o$7484b
obo21$7462b2o$7461bobo$7463bo21$7439b2o$7440b2o$7439bo21$7416b3o$7418b
o$7417bo20$7394bo$7394b2o$7393bobo24$7368b2o$7367bobo$7369bo31$7335b3o
$7337bo$7336bo25$7308b2o$7309b2o$7308bo20$7286bo$7286b2o$7285bobo22$
7262b3o$7264bo$7263bo20$7240bo$7240b2o$7239bobo21$7217b2o$7216bobo$
7218bo21$7194b2o$7193bobo$7195bo21$7171b3o$7173bo$7172bo20$7149b2o$
7148bobo$7150bo21$7126b2o$7127b2o$7126bo20$7104bo$7104b2o$7103bobo26$
7076b2o$7077b2o$7076bo20$7054bo$7054b2o$7053bobo21$7031b2o$7032b2o$
7031bo21$7008b3o$7010bo$7009bo29$6977b3o$6979bo$6978bo31$6944b2o$6945b
2o$6944bo20$6922bo$6922b2o$6921bobo21$6899b2o$6898bobo$6900bo26$6871bo
$6871b2o$6870bobo21$6848b2o$6849b2o$6848bo20$6826bo$6826b2o$6825bobo
21$6803b2o$6804b2o$6803bo25$6776b2o$6775bobo$6777bo21$6753b2o$6754b2o$
6753bo21$6730b2o$6729bobo$6731bo21$6707b2o$6708b2o$6707bo21$6684b2o$
6685b2o$6684bo20$6662bo$6662b2o$6661bobo23$6637b3o$6639bo$6638bo20$
6615bo$6615b2o$6614bobo27$6586bo$6586b2o$6585bobo21$6563b2o$6562bobo$
6564bo21$6540bo$6540b2o$6539bobo27$6511b2o$6510bobo$6512bo21$6488b3o$
6490bo$6489bo20$6466bo$6466b2o$6465bobo30$6434b2o$6433bobo$6435bo21$
6411b3o$6413bo$6412bo29$6380b3o$6382bo$6381bo26$6352b3o$6354bo$6353bo
20$6330b2o$6329bobo$6331bo25$6303bo$6303b2o$6302bobo21$6280b2o$6279bob
o$6281bo22$6256b3o$6258bo$6257bo20$6234bo$6234b2o$6233bobo21$6211b2o$
6210bobo$6212bo32$6177b2o$6176bobo$6178bo21$6154b2o$6155b2o$6154bo20$
6132bo$6132b2o$6131bobo21$6109b2o$6108bobo$6110bo33$6074b2o$6073bobo$
6075bo22$6050b3o$6052bo$6051bo39$6009b2o$6008bobo$6010bo21$5986b3o$
5988bo$5987bo20$5964b2o$5963bobo$5965bo21$5941b2o$5942b2o$5941bo21$
5918bo$5918b2o$5917bobo24$5892b3o$5894bo$5893bo20$5870bo$5870b2o$5869b
obo26$5842b3o$5844bo$5843bo20$5820bo$5820b2o$5819bobo22$5796b3o$5798bo
$5797bo20$5774bo$5774b2o$5773bobo21$5751bo$5751b2o$5750bobo21$5728b2o$
5729b2o$5728bo20$5706bo$5706b2o$5705bobo21$5683b2o$5684b2o$5683bo36$
5645b3o$5647bo$5646bo21$5622b2o$5623b2o$5622bo20$5600bo$5600b2o$5599bo
bo34$5564b2o$5563bobo$5565bo32$5530b3o$5532bo$5531bo21$5507b2o$5506bob
o$5508bo21$5484b3o$5486bo$5485bo20$5462b2o$5461bobo$5463bo21$5439b3o$
5441bo$5440bo25$5412b2o$5413b2o$5412bo21$5389b3o$5391bo$5390bo20$5367b
2o$5366bobo$5368bo25$5340bo$5340b2o$5339bobo21$5317b2o$5316bobo$5318bo
21$5294bo$5294b2o$5293bobo21$5271b2o$5270bobo$5272bo22$5247bo$5247b2o$
5246bobo21$5224b2o$5225b2o$5224bo20$5202bo$5202b2o$5201bobo29$5171b2o$
5172b2o$5171bo21$5148b3o$5150bo$5149bo31$5115b3o$5117bo$5116bo20$5093b
2o$5092bobo$5094bo23$5068b3o$5070bo$5069bo20$5046bo$5046b2o$5045bobo
21$5023b2o$5022bobo$5024bo24$4997bo$4997b2o$4996bobo21$4974b2o$4973bob
o$4975bo21$4951b3o$4953bo$4952bo27$4922b3o$4924bo$4923bo20$4900b2o$
4899bobo$4901bo26$4872b2o$4871bobo$4873bo21$4849b2o$4850b2o$4849bo25$
4822b2o$4821bobo$4823bo21$4799b2o$4800b2o$4799bo21$4776b2o$4775bobo$
4777bo21$4753b2o$4754b2o$4753bo21$4730b2o$4731b2o$4730bo20$4708bo$
4708b2o$4707bobo21$4685b2o$4686b2o$4685bo20$4663bo$4663b2o$4662bobo36$
4625b2o$4624bobo$4626bo21$4602bo$4602b2o$4601bobo21$4579b2o$4580b2o$
4579bo34$4543b3o$4545bo$4544bo31$4510b2o$4509bobo$4511bo22$4486b3o$
4488bo$4487bo20$4464b2o$4463bobo$4465bo21$4441b3o$4443bo$4442bo20$
4419b2o$4418bobo$4420bo25$4392bo$4392b2o$4391bobo21$4369b2o$4368bobo$
4370bo21$4346b3o$4348bo$4347bo25$4319b2o$4320b2o$4319bo21$4296b3o$
4298bo$4297bo21$4273b2o$4274b2o$4273bo21$4250b3o$4252bo$4251bo22$4226b
2o$4227b2o$4226bo20$4204bo$4204b2o$4203bobo21$4181b2o$4182b2o$4181bo
28$4151bo$4151b2o$4150bobo21$4128b2o$4127bobo$4129bo31$4095b2o$4094bob
o$4096bo21$4072b3o$4074bo$4073bo22$4048b2o$4047bobo$4049bo21$4025b2o$
4026b2o$4025bo21$4002b3o$4004bo$4003bo24$3976b2o$3977b2o$3976bo21$
3953b3o$3955bo$3954bo20$3931b2o$3930bobo$3932bo27$3902b2o$3901bobo$
3903bo21$3879b3o$3881bo$3880bo26$3851b3o$3853bo$3852bo20$3829b2o$3828b
obo$3830bo25$3802bo$3802b2o$3801bobo21$3779b2o$3778bobo$3780bo21$3756b
o$3756b2o$3755bobo21$3733b2o$3734b2o$3733bo33$3698b2o$3699b2o$3698bo
35$3661bo$3661b2o$3660bobo27$3632b3o$3634bo$3633bo20$3610b2o$3609bobo$
3611bo21$3587b3o$3589bo$3588bo20$3565b2o$3564bobo$3566bo21$3542b3o$
3544bo$3543bo20$3520bo$3520b2o$3519bobo32$3486bo$3486b2o$3485bobo28$
3456b2o$3455bobo$3457bo30$3424b2o$3425b2o$3424bo20$3402bo$3402b2o$
3401bobo37$3363b2o$3364b2o$3363bo33$3328bo$3328b2o$3327bobo31$3295bo$
3295b2o$3294bobo21$3272b2o$3271bobo$3273bo21$3249b2o$3250b2o$3249bo20$
3227bo$3227b2o$3226bobo26$3199b3o$3201bo$3200bo20$3177b2o$3176bobo$
3178bo21$3154bo$3154b2o$3153bobo21$3131b2o$3130bobo$3132bo21$3108b2o$
3109b2o$3108bo21$3085b2o$3086b2o$3085bo20$3063bo$3063b2o$3062bobo21$
3040b2o$3041b2o$3040bo21$3017b3o$3019bo$3018bo20$2995b2o$2994bobo$
2996bo26$2967b3o$2969bo$2968bo20$2945b2o$2944bobo$2946bo21$2922b3o$
2924bo$2923bo20$2900bo$2900b2o$2899bobo29$2869bo$2869b2o$2868bobo32$
2835b3o$2837bo$2836bo20$2813b2o$2812bobo$2814bo21$2790b2o$2791b2o$
2790bo26$2762b2o$2761bobo$2763bo21$2739b3o$2741bo$2740bo20$2717b2o$
2716bobo$2718bo21$2694b2o$2695b2o$2694bo25$2667b2o$2666bobo$2668bo21$
2644b2o$2645b2o$2644bo21$2621bo$2621b2o$2620bobo21$2598b2o$2597bobo$
2599bo21$2575b2o$2576b2o$2575bo43$2530b3o$2532bo$2531bo20$2508b2o$
2507bobo$2509bo21$2485b2o$2486b2o$2485bo21$2462bo$2462b2o$2461bobo21$
2439b2o$2438bobo$2440bo24$2413b3o$2415bo$2414bo20$2391bo$2391b2o$2390b
obo41$2348b2o$2347bobo$2349bo21$2325b2o$2326b2o$2325bo25$2298bo$2298b
2o$2297bobo21$2275b2o$2274bobo$2276bo37$2236b2o$2235bobo$2237bo21$
2213b3o$2215bo$2214bo27$2184bo$2184b2o$2183bobo21$2161b2o$2162b2o$
2161bo20$2139bo$2139b2o$2138bobo21$2116b2o$2117b2o$2116bo20$2094bo$
2094b2o$2093bobo21$2071b2o$2070bobo$2072bo21$2048b2o$2049b2o$2048bo25$
2021b2o$2020bobo$2022bo21$1998b3o$2000bo$1999bo21$1975b2o$1976b2o$
1975bo21$1952b3o$1954bo$1953bo20$1930bo$1930b2o$1929bobo21$1907bo$
1907b2o$1906bobo21$1884b2o$1885b2o$1884bo20$1862bo$1862b2o$1861bobo21$
1839b2o$1838bobo$1840bo21$1816b3o$1818bo$1817bo25$1789b2o$1788bobo$
1790bo21$1766b3o$1768bo$1767bo20$1744b2o$1743bobo$1745bo21$1721b2o$
1722b2o$1721bo29$1690b2o$1691b2o$1690bo31$1657b2o$1656bobo$1658bo21$
1634b3o$1636bo$1635bo20$1612bo$1612b2o$1611bobo27$1583b3o$1585bo$1584b
o20$1561b2o$1560bobo$1562bo21$1538b3o$1540bo$1539bo20$1516b2o$1515bobo
$1517bo25$1489bo$1489b2o$1488bobo21$1466b2o$1465bobo$1467bo21$1443bo$
1443b2o$1442bobo21$1420b2o$1419bobo$1421bo37$1381b2o$1382b2o$1381bo24$
1355bo$1355b2o$1354bobo21$1332b2o$1331bobo$1333bo21$1309b3o$1311bo$
1310bo32$1275bo$1275b2o$1274bobo21$1252b2o$1251bobo$1253bo24$1226b2o$
1225bobo$1227bo21$1203b2o$1204b2o$1203bo20$1181bo$1181b2o$1180bobo22$
1157b3o$1159bo$1158bo24$1131b3o$1133bo$1132bo20$1109bo$1109b2o$1108bob
o21$1086b2o$1085bobo$1087bo34$1050b2o$1051b2o$1050bo21$1027b3o$1029bo$
1028bo25$1000b2o$999bobo$1001bo36$962bo$962b2o$961bobo39$921b2o$922b2o
$921bo20$899bo$899b2o$898bobo21$876b2o$875bobo$877bo21$853bo$853b2o$
852bobo39$812b2o$811bobo$813bo25$785bo$785b2o$784bobo21$762b2o$761bobo
$763bo21$739bo$739b2o$738bobo21$716b2o$717b2o$716bo41$673b3o$675bo$
674bo20$651b2o$650bobo$652bo21$628b3o$630bo$629bo20$606bo$606b2o$605bo
bo37$567b2o$568b2o$567bo25$540bo$540b2o$539bobo41$497b3o$499bo$498bo
24$471bo$471b2o$470bobo21$448b2o$447bobo$449bo21$425b3o$427bo$426bo22$
401bo$401b2o$400bobo21$378b2o$377bobo$379bo29$347b3o$349bo$348bo20$
325b2o$324bobo$326bo21$302b3o$304bo$303bo37$263bo$263b2o$262bobo21$
240b2o$241b2o$240bo20$218bo$218b2o$217bobo26$190b3o$192bo$191bo20$168b
o$168b2o$167bobo22$144b2o$145b2o$144bo21$121b3o$123bo$122bo20$99bo$99b
2o$98bobo21$76bo$76b2o$75bobo21$53b2o$54b2o$53bo28$23b3o$25bo$24bo20$b
2o$obo$2bo!

Code: Select all

x = 12599, y = 12603, rule = B3/S23
12597b2o$12597b2o5$12594b2o$12593bobo$12595bo25$12567bo$12567b2o$
12566bobo21$12544b2o$12543bobo$12545bo22$12520b3o$12522bo$12521bo20$
12498bo$12498b2o$12497bobo21$12475b2o$12474bobo$12476bo21$12452b2o$
12451bobo$12453bo21$12429b3o$12431bo$12430bo26$12401b2o$12402b2o$
12401bo20$12379bo$12379b2o$12378bobo21$12356b2o$12355bobo$12357bo23$
12331bo$12331b2o$12330bobo21$12308b2o$12309b2o$12308bo21$12285b3o$
12287bo$12286bo21$12262b2o$12263b2o$12262bo20$12240bo$12240b2o$12239bo
bo21$12217b2o$12218b2o$12217bo20$12195bo$12195b2o$12194bobo25$12168b2o
$12169b2o$12168bo20$12146bo$12146b2o$12145bobo21$12123b2o$12122bobo$
12124bo21$12100b2o$12101b2o$12100bo21$12077b3o$12079bo$12078bo20$
12055b2o$12054bobo$12056bo25$12028bo$12028b2o$12027bobo21$12005b2o$
12006b2o$12005bo20$11983bo$11983b2o$11982bobo21$11960b2o$11961b2o$
11960bo20$11938bo$11938b2o$11937bobo26$11910b3o$11912bo$11911bo20$
11888bo$11888b2o$11887bobo22$11864b3o$11866bo$11865bo20$11842b2o$
11841bobo$11843bo31$11809b2o$11808bobo$11810bo27$11780b2o$11781b2o$
11780bo30$11748b3o$11750bo$11749bo20$11726bo$11726b2o$11725bobo21$
11703b2o$11704b2o$11703bo21$11680b3o$11682bo$11681bo21$11657bo$11657b
2o$11656bobo21$11634b2o$11635b2o$11634bo26$11606bo$11606b2o$11605bobo
39$11565b2o$11566b2o$11565bo56$11507b2o$11506bobo$11508bo38$11467b2o$
11468b2o$11467bo20$11445bo$11445b2o$11444bobo37$11406b2o$11405bobo$
11407bo30$11374b3o$11376bo$11375bo21$11351b2o$11352b2o$11351bo27$
11322bo$11322b2o$11321bobo21$11299b2o$11300b2o$11299bo21$11276b3o$
11278bo$11277bo20$11254b2o$11253bobo$11255bo21$11231b2o$11232b2o$
11231bo25$11204b2o$11203bobo$11205bo21$11181b2o$11182b2o$11181bo21$
11158bo$11158b2o$11157bobo21$11135b2o$11134bobo$11136bo21$11112b2o$
11113b2o$11112bo22$11088b2o$11089b2o$11088bo20$11066bo$11066b2o$11065b
obo23$11041b3o$11043bo$11042bo20$11019bo$11019b2o$11018bobo21$10996b2o
$10995bobo$10997bo31$10963b3o$10965bo$10964bo21$10940b2o$10939bobo$
10941bo21$10917b3o$10919bo$10918bo24$10891b2o$10892b2o$10891bo20$
10869bo$10869b2o$10868bobo22$10845b2o$10844bobo$10846bo34$10809b2o$
10810b2o$10809bo23$10784b3o$10786bo$10785bo25$10757b2o$10758b2o$10757b
o20$10735bo$10735b2o$10734bobo22$10711b3o$10713bo$10712bo20$10689bo$
10689b2o$10688bobo21$10666b2o$10665bobo$10667bo21$10643b3o$10645bo$
10644bo20$10621b2o$10620bobo$10622bo23$10596b2o$10595bobo$10597bo21$
10573b3o$10575bo$10574bo20$10551bo$10551b2o$10550bobo21$10528b2o$
10527bobo$10529bo21$10505b3o$10507bo$10506bo26$10477bo$10477b2o$10476b
obo21$10454b2o$10453bobo$10455bo21$10431b2o$10432b2o$10431bo31$10398b
3o$10400bo$10399bo20$10376bo$10376b2o$10375bobo21$10353b2o$10352bobo$
10354bo27$10324bo$10324b2o$10323bobo42$10280bo$10280b2o$10279bobo21$
10257b2o$10256bobo$10258bo28$10227bo$10227b2o$10226bobo21$10204b2o$
10203bobo$10205bo25$10177bo$10177b2o$10176bobo21$10154b2o$10153bobo$
10155bo21$10131bo$10131b2o$10130bobo21$10108b2o$10107bobo$10109bo26$
10080bo$10080b2o$10079bobo21$10057b2o$10056bobo$10058bo31$10024b2o$
10023bobo$10025bo21$10001b2o$10002b2o$10001bo21$9978b3o$9980bo$9979bo
31$9945b2o$9946b2o$9945bo21$9922b3o$9924bo$9923bo20$9900b2o$9899bobo$
9901bo23$9875b3o$9877bo$9876bo20$9853bo$9853b2o$9852bobo21$9830b2o$
9831b2o$9830bo31$9797b3o$9799bo$9798bo20$9775b2o$9774bobo$9776bo26$
9747b2o$9746bobo$9748bo31$9714b2o$9713bobo$9715bo21$9691b3o$9693bo$
9692bo20$9669b2o$9668bobo$9670bo25$9642bo$9642b2o$9641bobo21$9619b2o$
9618bobo$9620bo21$9596bo$9596b2o$9595bobo21$9573b2o$9572bobo$9574bo22$
9549bo$9549b2o$9548bobo21$9526b2o$9527b2o$9526bo20$9504bo$9504b2o$
9503bobo29$9473b2o$9474b2o$9473bo21$9450b3o$9452bo$9451bo31$9417b3o$
9419bo$9418bo20$9395b2o$9394bobo$9396bo23$9370b3o$9372bo$9371bo20$
9348bo$9348b2o$9347bobo21$9325b2o$9324bobo$9326bo24$9299bo$9299b2o$
9298bobo21$9276b2o$9275bobo$9277bo21$9253b3o$9255bo$9254bo27$9224b3o$
9226bo$9225bo20$9202b2o$9201bobo$9203bo26$9174b2o$9173bobo$9175bo21$
9151b2o$9152b2o$9151bo25$9124b2o$9123bobo$9125bo21$9101b2o$9102b2o$
9101bo21$9078b2o$9077bobo$9079bo21$9055b2o$9056b2o$9055bo21$9032b2o$
9033b2o$9032bo20$9010bo$9010b2o$9009bobo21$8987b2o$8988b2o$8987bo20$
8965bo$8965b2o$8964bobo36$8927b2o$8926bobo$8928bo21$8904bo$8904b2o$
8903bobo21$8881b2o$8882b2o$8881bo34$8845b3o$8847bo$8846bo31$8812b2o$
8811bobo$8813bo22$8788b3o$8790bo$8789bo20$8766b2o$8765bobo$8767bo21$
8743b3o$8745bo$8744bo20$8721b2o$8720bobo$8722bo25$8694bo$8694b2o$8693b
obo21$8671b2o$8670bobo$8672bo21$8648b3o$8650bo$8649bo25$8621b2o$8622b
2o$8621bo21$8598b3o$8600bo$8599bo21$8575b2o$8576b2o$8575bo21$8552b3o$
8554bo$8553bo22$8528b2o$8529b2o$8528bo20$8506bo$8506b2o$8505bobo21$
8483b2o$8484b2o$8483bo28$8453bo$8453b2o$8452bobo21$8430b2o$8429bobo$
8431bo31$8397b2o$8396bobo$8398bo21$8374b3o$8376bo$8375bo22$8350b2o$
8349bobo$8351bo21$8327b2o$8328b2o$8327bo21$8304b3o$8306bo$8305bo24$
8278b2o$8279b2o$8278bo21$8255b3o$8257bo$8256bo20$8233b2o$8232bobo$
8234bo27$8204b2o$8203bobo$8205bo21$8181b3o$8183bo$8182bo26$8153b3o$
8155bo$8154bo20$8131b2o$8130bobo$8132bo25$8104bo$8104b2o$8103bobo21$
8081b2o$8080bobo$8082bo21$8058bo$8058b2o$8057bobo21$8035b2o$8034bobo$
8036bo30$8003b2o$8004b2o$8003bo21$7980b3o$7982bo$7981bo20$7958b2o$
7957bobo$7959bo26$7930bo$7930b2o$7929bobo21$7907b2o$7908b2o$7907bo20$
7885bo$7885b2o$7884bobo27$7856b2o$7855bobo$7857bo21$7833b3o$7835bo$
7834bo35$7796b2o$7797b2o$7796bo20$7774bo$7774b2o$7773bobo23$7749b2o$
7750b2o$7749bo20$7727bo$7727b2o$7726bobo21$7704b2o$7703bobo$7705bo24$
7678b2o$7679b2o$7678bo20$7656bo$7656b2o$7655bobo21$7633b2o$7634b2o$
7633bo32$7599b3o$7601bo$7600bo31$7566b2o$7565bobo$7567bo21$7543b3o$
7545bo$7544bo20$7521b2o$7520bobo$7522bo21$7498bo$7498b2o$7497bobo21$
7475b2o$7474bobo$7476bo25$7448bo$7448b2o$7447bobo21$7425b2o$7424bobo$
7426bo22$7401b3o$7403bo$7402bo20$7379bo$7379b2o$7378bobo21$7356b2o$
7355bobo$7357bo32$7322b2o$7321bobo$7323bo21$7299b2o$7300b2o$7299bo20$
7277bo$7277b2o$7276bobo21$7254b2o$7253bobo$7255bo33$7219b2o$7220b2o$
7219bo22$7195bo$7195b2o$7194bobo21$7172b2o$7173b2o$7172bo37$7133b2o$
7134b2o$7133bo31$7100bo$7100b2o$7099bobo26$7072b3o$7074bo$7073bo20$
7050bo$7050b2o$7049bobo22$7026b3o$7028bo$7027bo20$7004bo$7004b2o$7003b
obo21$6981bo$6981b2o$6980bobo21$6958b2o$6959b2o$6958bo22$6934b2o$6933b
obo$6935bo21$6911b2o$6912b2o$6911bo27$6882b2o$6883b2o$6882bo21$6859b3o
$6861bo$6860bo24$6833b2o$6832bobo$6834bo21$6810b3o$6812bo$6811bo20$
6788b2o$6787bobo$6789bo23$6763b2o$6764b2o$6763bo21$6740b3o$6742bo$
6741bo34$6704b2o$6703bobo$6705bo22$6680b2o$6679bobo$6681bo21$6657b3o$
6659bo$6658bo20$6635b2o$6634bobo$6636bo36$6597bo$6597b2o$6596bobo21$
6574b2o$6573bobo$6575bo21$6551b2o$6550bobo$6552bo21$6528b3o$6530bo$
6529bo26$6500b2o$6501b2o$6500bo22$6476b3o$6478bo$6477bo20$6454bo$6454b
2o$6453bobo26$6426b3o$6428bo$6427bo20$6404bo$6404b2o$6403bobo22$6380b
2o$6381b2o$6380bo21$6357b3o$6359bo$6358bo20$6335bo$6335b2o$6334bobo21$
6312bo$6312b2o$6311bobo21$6289b2o$6290b2o$6289bo22$6265b2o$6264bobo$
6266bo21$6242b2o$6243b2o$6242bo20$6220bo$6220b2o$6219bobo21$6197b2o$
6196bobo$6198bo21$6174b3o$6176bo$6175bo38$6134b2o$6135b2o$6134bo21$
6111b3o$6113bo$6112bo20$6089bo$6089b2o$6088bobo21$6066b2o$6065bobo$
6067bo21$6043b2o$6044b2o$6043bo21$6020b3o$6022bo$6021bo23$5995bo$5995b
2o$5994bobo31$5962b2o$5963b2o$5962bo25$5935b2o$5934bobo$5936bo21$5912b
2o$5913b2o$5912bo21$5889bo$5889b2o$5888bobo21$5866b2o$5865bobo$5867bo
21$5843b3o$5845bo$5844bo22$5819b3o$5821bo$5820bo20$5797b2o$5796bobo$
5798bo21$5774b2o$5775b2o$5774bo34$5738bo$5738b2o$5737bobo58$5678bo$
5678b2o$5677bobo26$5650b3o$5652bo$5651bo20$5628bo$5628b2o$5627bobo22$
5604b2o$5605b2o$5604bo21$5581b3o$5583bo$5582bo20$5559bo$5559b2o$5558bo
bo21$5536bo$5536b2o$5535bobo21$5513b2o$5514b2o$5513bo34$5477b3o$5479bo
$5478bo20$5455b2o$5454bobo$5456bo21$5432b2o$5433b2o$5432bo37$5393bo$
5393b2o$5392bobo21$5370b2o$5369bobo$5371bo25$5343bo$5343b2o$5342bobo
21$5320b2o$5321b2o$5320bo21$5297b2o$5296bobo$5298bo21$5274b2o$5275b2o$
5274bo21$5251b3o$5253bo$5252bo21$5228b3o$5230bo$5229bo20$5206b2o$5205b
obo$5207bo21$5183b3o$5185bo$5184bo20$5161bo$5161b2o$5160bobo21$5138b2o
$5139b2o$5138bo25$5111bo$5111b2o$5110bobo21$5088b2o$5089b2o$5088bo20$
5066bo$5066b2o$5065bobo21$5043b2o$5042bobo$5044bo29$5012b2o$5011bobo$
5013bo31$4979bo$4979b2o$4978bobo21$4956b2o$4957b2o$4956bo21$4933b3o$
4935bo$4934bo26$4905b2o$4906b2o$4905bo20$4883bo$4883b2o$4882bobo21$
4860b2o$4861b2o$4860bo21$4837b3o$4839bo$4838bo25$4810b2o$4811b2o$4810b
o21$4787b3o$4789bo$4788bo21$4764b2o$4763bobo$4765bo21$4741b2o$4742b2o$
4741bo21$4718b3o$4720bo$4719bo21$4695b3o$4697bo$4696bo20$4673b2o$4672b
obo$4674bo22$4649bo$4649b2o$4648bobo21$4626b2o$4625bobo$4627bo21$4603b
3o$4605bo$4604bo20$4581bo$4581b2o$4580bobo21$4558b2o$4559b2o$4558bo38$
4518b2o$4517bobo$4519bo21$4495b2o$4496b2o$4495bo21$4472b3o$4474bo$
4473bo20$4450bo$4450b2o$4449bobo21$4427b2o$4426bobo$4428bo21$4404b2o$
4405b2o$4404bo24$4378b3o$4380bo$4379bo30$4346b2o$4345bobo$4347bo25$
4319bo$4319b2o$4318bobo21$4296b2o$4295bobo$4297bo21$4273bo$4273b2o$
4272bobo21$4250b2o$4249bobo$4251bo22$4226bo$4226b2o$4225bobo21$4203b2o
$4204b2o$4203bo20$4181bo$4181b2o$4180bobo29$4150b2o$4151b2o$4150bo21$
4127b3o$4129bo$4128bo31$4094b3o$4096bo$4095bo20$4072b2o$4071bobo$4073b
o23$4047b3o$4049bo$4048bo20$4025bo$4025b2o$4024bobo21$4002b2o$4001bobo
$4003bo24$3976bo$3976b2o$3975bobo21$3953b2o$3952bobo$3954bo21$3930b3o$
3932bo$3931bo27$3901b3o$3903bo$3902bo20$3879b2o$3878bobo$3880bo26$
3851b2o$3850bobo$3852bo21$3828b3o$3830bo$3829bo25$3801b2o$3802b2o$
3801bo21$3778b3o$3780bo$3779bo21$3755b2o$3756b2o$3755bo20$3733bo$3733b
2o$3732bobo33$3698bo$3698b2o$3697bobo36$3660b2o$3661b2o$3660bo26$3632b
2o$3631bobo$3633bo21$3609b3o$3611bo$3610bo20$3587b2o$3586bobo$3588bo
21$3564b3o$3566bo$3565bo20$3542b2o$3541bobo$3543bo21$3519b2o$3520b2o$
3519bo32$3485b2o$3486b2o$3485bo28$3455b3o$3457bo$3456bo29$3424bo$3424b
2o$3423bobo21$3401b2o$3402b2o$3401bo36$3363bo$3363b2o$3362bobo34$3327b
2o$3328b2o$3327bo31$3294b2o$3295b2o$3294bo21$3271b3o$3273bo$3272bo20$
3249bo$3249b2o$3248bobo21$3226b2o$3227b2o$3226bo25$3199b2o$3198bobo$
3200bo21$3176b3o$3178bo$3177bo21$3153b2o$3154b2o$3153bo21$3130b3o$
3132bo$3131bo20$3108bo$3108b2o$3107bobo21$3085bo$3085b2o$3084bobo21$
3062b2o$3063b2o$3062bo20$3040bo$3040b2o$3039bobo21$3017b2o$3016bobo$
3018bo21$2994b3o$2996bo$2995bo25$2967b2o$2966bobo$2968bo21$2944b3o$
2946bo$2945bo20$2922b2o$2921bobo$2923bo21$2899b2o$2900b2o$2899bo29$
2868b2o$2869b2o$2868bo31$2835b2o$2834bobo$2836bo21$2812b3o$2814bo$
2813bo20$2790bo$2790b2o$2789bobo27$2761b3o$2763bo$2762bo20$2739b2o$
2738bobo$2740bo21$2716b3o$2718bo$2717bo20$2694bo$2694b2o$2693bobo26$
2666b3o$2668bo$2667bo20$2644bo$2644b2o$2643bobo22$2620b2o$2621b2o$
2620bo21$2597b3o$2599bo$2598bo20$2575bo$2575b2o$2574bobo43$2530b2o$
2529bobo$2531bo21$2507b3o$2509bo$2508bo20$2485bo$2485b2o$2484bobo22$
2461b2o$2462b2o$2461bo21$2438b3o$2440bo$2439bo23$2413b2o$2412bobo$
2414bo21$2390b2o$2391b2o$2390bo41$2347b3o$2349bo$2348bo20$2325bo$2325b
2o$2324bobo26$2297b2o$2298b2o$2297bo21$2274b3o$2276bo$2275bo37$2235b3o
$2237bo$2236bo20$2213b2o$2212bobo$2214bo28$2183b2o$2184b2o$2183bo20$
2161bo$2161b2o$2160bobo21$2138b2o$2139b2o$2138bo20$2116bo$2116b2o$
2115bobo21$2093b2o$2094b2o$2093bo21$2070b3o$2072bo$2071bo20$2048bo$
2048b2o$2047bobo26$2020b3o$2022bo$2021bo20$1998b2o$1997bobo$1999bo21$
1975bo$1975b2o$1974bobo21$1952b2o$1951bobo$1953bo21$1929b2o$1930b2o$
1929bo21$1906b2o$1907b2o$1906bo20$1884bo$1884b2o$1883bobo21$1861b2o$
1862b2o$1861bo21$1838b3o$1840bo$1839bo20$1816b2o$1815bobo$1817bo26$
1788b3o$1790bo$1789bo20$1766b2o$1765bobo$1767bo21$1743b3o$1745bo$1744b
o20$1721bo$1721b2o$1720bobo29$1690bo$1690b2o$1689bobo32$1656b3o$1658bo
$1657bo20$1634b2o$1633bobo$1635bo21$1611b2o$1612b2o$1611bo26$1583b2o$
1582bobo$1584bo21$1560b3o$1562bo$1561bo20$1538b2o$1537bobo$1539bo21$
1515b3o$1517bo$1516bo25$1488b2o$1489b2o$1488bo21$1465b3o$1467bo$1466bo
21$1442b2o$1443b2o$1442bo21$1419b3o$1421bo$1420bo36$1381bo$1381b2o$
1380bobo25$1354b2o$1355b2o$1354bo21$1331b3o$1333bo$1332bo20$1309b2o$
1308bobo$1310bo33$1274b2o$1275b2o$1274bo21$1251b3o$1253bo$1252bo24$
1225b3o$1227bo$1226bo20$1203bo$1203b2o$1202bobo21$1180b2o$1181b2o$
1180bo21$1157b2o$1156bobo$1158bo24$1131b2o$1130bobo$1132bo21$1108b2o$
1109b2o$1108bo21$1085b3o$1087bo$1086bo33$1050bo$1050b2o$1049bobo21$
1027b2o$1026bobo$1028bo26$999b3o$1001bo$1000bo36$961b2o$962b2o$961bo
38$921bo$921b2o$920bobo21$898b2o$899b2o$898bo21$875b3o$877bo$876bo21$
852b2o$853b2o$852bo39$811b3o$813bo$812bo25$784b2o$785b2o$784bo21$761b
3o$763bo$762bo21$738b2o$739b2o$738bo20$716bo$716b2o$715bobo41$673b2o$
672bobo$674bo21$650b3o$652bo$651bo20$628b2o$627bobo$629bo21$605b2o$
606b2o$605bo36$567bo$567b2o$566bobo26$539b2o$540b2o$539bo40$497b2o$
496bobo$498bo25$470b2o$471b2o$470bo21$447b3o$449bo$448bo20$425b2o$424b
obo$426bo23$400b2o$401b2o$400bo21$377b3o$379bo$378bo28$347b2o$346bobo$
348bo21$324b3o$326bo$325bo20$302b2o$301bobo$303bo38$262b2o$263b2o$262b
o20$240bo$240b2o$239bobo21$217b2o$218b2o$217bo25$190b2o$189bobo$191bo
21$167b2o$168b2o$167bo21$144bo$144b2o$143bobo21$121b2o$120bobo$122bo
21$98b2o$99b2o$98bo21$75b2o$76b2o$75bo20$53bo$53b2o$52bobo28$23b2o$22b
obo$24bo21$3o$2bo$bo!

Now we basically need three other things:

PUSH, PULL, & FIRE.

Fortunately those are probably easier to find, and cheaper.

There’s probably cheaper boat recipes, and I imagine you probably just wanted those Push/Pull/Fire operations anyways.

Will try inputting this soon:

Code: Select all

x = 464, y = 172, rule = B3/S23
80b2ob2o$79bobobobo293b2ob2o$78bo3bo3bo291bobobobo$77bo9bo289bo3bo3bo$
76bo11bo287bo9bo$75bo13bo285bo11bo$74bo15bo283bo13bo$73bo17bo281bo15bo
$72bo19bo279bo17bo$71bo21bo277bo19bo$70bo23bo275bo21bo$69bo25bo273bo
23bo$68bo27bo271bo25bo$67bo29bo269bo27bo$66bo31bo267bo29bo$65bo33bo
265bo31bo$64bo35bo263bo33bo$63bo37bo261bo35bo$62bo39bo259bo37bo$61bo
41bo257bo39bo$60bo43bo255bo41bo$59bo45bo253bo43bo$58bo47bo251bo45bo$
57bo49bo249bo47bo$56bo51bo247bo49bo$55bo53bo245bo51bo$54bo55bo243bo53b
o$53bo57bo241bo55bo$52bo59bo239bo57bo$51bo61bo237bo59bo$50bo63bo235bo
61bo$49bo65bo233bo63bo$48bo67bo231bo65bo$47bo69bo229bo67bo$46bo71bo
227bo69bo$45bo73bo225bo71bo$44bo75bo223bo73bo$43bo77bo221bo75bo$42bo
79bo219bo77bo$41bo81bo217bo79bo$40bo83bo215bo81bo$39bo85bo213bo83bo$
38bo87bo211bo85bo$37bo89bo209bo87bo$36bo91bo207bo89bo$35bo93bo205bo91b
o$34bo95bo203bo93bo$33bo97bo201bo95bo$32bo99bo199bo97bo$31bo101bo197bo
99bo$30bo103bo195bo101bo$29bo105bo193bo103bo$28bo107bo191bo105bo$27bo
109bo189bo107bo$26bo111bo187bo109bo$25bo113bo185bo111bo$24bo115bo183bo
113bo$23bo117bo181bo115bo$22bo119bo179bo117bo$21bo121bo177bo119bo$20bo
123bo175bo121bo$19bo125bo173bo123bo$18bo127bo171bo125bo$17bo129bo169bo
127bo$16bo131bo167bo129bo$15bo133bo165bo131bo$14bo135bo163bo133bo$13bo
137bo161bo135bo$12bo139bo159bo137bo$11bo141bo157bo139bo$10bo143bo155bo
141bo$9bo145bo153bo143bo$8bo147bo151bo145bo$7bo149bo149bo147bo$6bo151b
o147bo149bo$5bo153bo145bo151bo$4bo155bo143bo153bo$3bo157bo141bo155bo$
2bo159bo139bo157bo$bo161bo137bo159bo$o163bo135bo161bo$2o161b2o134bo68b
o94bo$2bo159bo136b2o66bobo92b2o$2o161b2o136bo65b2o92bo$o163bo134b2o
161b2o$bo72bo88bo135bo163bo$2bo70bobo8b2o76bo137bo161bo$3bo69b2o9b2o
75bo139bo81b2o76bo$4bo155bo141bo80b2o75bo$5bo153bo143bo155bo$6bo151bo
145bo153bo$7bo149bo147bo151bo$8bo147bo149bo149bo$9bo145bo151bo147bo$
10bo62b2o79bo153bo145bo$11bo60bo2bo77bo155bo62b2o79bo$12bo58bob2obo73b
obo157bo60bo2bo77bo$13bo56bobo2bobo72b2o159bo58bob2obo73bobo$14bo55bob
o2bobo234bo56bobo2bobo72b2o$15bo55bob2obo236bo55bobo2bobo$16bo55bo2bo
238bo55bob2obo$17bo55b2o240bo55bo2bo$18bo297bo55b2o$19bo297bo$20bo297b
o$21bo297bo$22bo297bo$23bo297bo$24bo297bo$25bo297bo$26bo297bo$27bo297b
o$28bo297bo$29bo297bo$30bo297bo$31bo297bo$32bo297bo$33bo297bo$34bo297b
o$35bo297bo$36bo297bo$37bo297bo$38bo297bo$39bo297bo$40bo297bo$41bo297b
o$42bo297bo$43bo297bo$44bo297bo$45bo297bo$46bo297bo$47bo297bo$48bo297b
o$49bo297bo$50bo297bo$51bo297bo$52bo297bo$53bo297bo$54bo297bo$55bo297b
o$56bo297bo$57bo297bo$58bo297bo$59bo297bo$60bo297bo$61bo297bo$62bo297b
o$63bo297bo$64bo297bo$65bo297bo$66bo29b2o266bo$67bo29bo267bo29b2o$68bo
27bo269bo29bo$69bo25bo271bo27bo$70bo23bo273bo25bo$71bo21bo275bo23bo$
72bo19bo277bo21bo$73bo17bo279bo19bo$74bo15bo281bo17bo$75bo13bo283bo15b
o$76bo11bo285bo13bo$77bo9bo287bo11bo$78bo3bo3bo289bo9bo$79bobobobo291b
o3bo3bo$80b2ob2o61b2o230bobobobo$146b2o231b2ob2o61b2o$445b2o$146b2o$
145bo2bo296b2o$144bo2bo296bo2bo$145b2o296bo2bo$444b2o!

EDIT:

Code: Select all

x = 13564, y = 13634, rule = B3/S23
13489b2o$13489b2o66$13562b2o$13562b2o5$13559b2o$13558bobo$13560bo25$
13532bo$13532b2o$13531bobo21$13509b2o$13508bobo$13510bo22$13485b3o$
13487bo$13486bo20$13463bo$13463b2o$13462bobo21$13440b2o$13439bobo$
13441bo21$13417b2o$13416bobo$13418bo21$13394b3o$13396bo$13395bo33$
13359bo$13359b2o$13358bobo21$13336b2o$13337b2o$13336bo21$13313b3o$
13315bo$13314bo37$13274b3o$13276bo$13275bo20$13252b2o$13251bobo$13253b
o24$13226b2o$13225bobo$13227bo39$13185b2o$13184bobo$13186bo25$13158bo$
13158b2o$13157bobo21$13135b2o$13134bobo$13136bo22$13111b3o$13113bo$
13112bo20$13089bo$13089b2o$13088bobo21$13066b2o$13067b2o$13066bo22$
13042b2o$13043b2o$13042bo20$13020bo$13020b2o$13019bobo21$12997b2o$
12996bobo$12998bo35$12960b3o$12962bo$12961bo58$12900b3o$12902bo$12901b
o25$12873b2o$12874b2o$12873bo21$12850b3o$12852bo$12851bo21$12827b2o$
12826bobo$12828bo21$12804b2o$12805b2o$12804bo21$12781b3o$12783bo$
12782bo21$12758b3o$12760bo$12759bo20$12736b2o$12735bobo$12737bo34$
12700b2o$12701b2o$12700bo20$12678bo$12678b2o$12677bobo21$12655b2o$
12654bobo$12656bo38$12615b3o$12617bo$12616bo20$12593b2o$12592bobo$
12594bo25$12566bo$12566b2o$12565bobo21$12543b2o$12544b2o$12543bo21$
12520b2o$12519bobo$12521bo21$12497b2o$12498b2o$12497bo20$12475bo$
12475b2o$12474bobo22$12451b2o$12450bobo$12452bo21$12428b2o$12429b2o$
12428bo21$12405b3o$12407bo$12406bo25$12378b2o$12379b2o$12378bo21$
12355b3o$12357bo$12356bo20$12333b2o$12332bobo$12334bo21$12310b3o$
12312bo$12311bo20$12288bo$12288b2o$12287bobo23$12263b2o$12262bobo$
12264bo21$12240b3o$12242bo$12241bo22$12216b2o$12215bobo$12217bo21$
12193b3o$12195bo$12194bo20$12171b2o$12170bobo$12172bo28$12141b3o$
12143bo$12142bo20$12119bo$12119b2o$12118bobo21$12096b2o$12097b2o$
12096bo20$12074bo$12074b2o$12073bobo21$12051b2o$12052b2o$12051bo20$
12029bo$12029b2o$12028bobo21$12006b2o$12007b2o$12006bo25$11979b2o$
11978bobo$11980bo21$11956b3o$11958bo$11957bo21$11933bo$11933b2o$11932b
obo60$11871b3o$11873bo$11872bo20$11849b2o$11848bobo$11850bo30$11817b3o
$11819bo$11818bo50$11765b3o$11767bo$11766bo30$11733b3o$11735bo$11734bo
20$11711b2o$11710bobo$11712bo22$11687b2o$11686bobo$11688bo21$11664b2o$
11665b2o$11664bo20$11642bo$11642b2o$11641bobo21$11619b2o$11620b2o$
11619bo21$11596b3o$11598bo$11597bo20$11574bo$11574b2o$11573bobo21$
11551b2o$11550bobo$11552bo21$11528b2o$11529b2o$11528bo23$11503b2o$
11504b2o$11503bo20$11481bo$11481b2o$11480bobo21$11458b2o$11459b2o$
11458bo21$11435b3o$11437bo$11436bo25$11408b2o$11409b2o$11408bo20$
11386bo$11386b2o$11385bobo22$11362b3o$11364bo$11363bo20$11340bo$11340b
2o$11339bobo21$11317b2o$11318b2o$11317bo22$11293b3o$11295bo$11294bo20$
11271bo$11271b2o$11270bobo21$11248b2o$11247bobo$11249bo33$11213b3o$
11215bo$11214bo37$11174b2o$11175b2o$11174bo22$11150b2o$11151b2o$11150b
o20$11128bo$11128b2o$11127bobo28$11098bo$11098b2o$11097bobo21$11075b2o
$11074bobo$11076bo22$11051bo$11051b2o$11050bobo25$11024b2o$11023bobo$
11025bo21$11001b3o$11003bo$11002bo20$10979b2o$10978bobo$10980bo21$
10956bo$10956b2o$10955bobo45$10909bo$10909b2o$10908bobo26$10881b3o$
10883bo$10882bo20$10859b2o$10858bobo$10860bo21$10836bo$10836b2o$10835b
obo21$10813b2o$10812bobo$10814bo21$10790b2o$10791b2o$10790bo21$10767b
2o$10768b2o$10767bo20$10745bo$10745b2o$10744bobo21$10722b2o$10723b2o$
10722bo21$10699b3o$10701bo$10700bo20$10677b2o$10676bobo$10678bo26$
10649b3o$10651bo$10650bo20$10627b2o$10626bobo$10628bo21$10604b3o$
10606bo$10605bo20$10582bo$10582b2o$10581bobo29$10551bo$10551b2o$10550b
obo32$10517b3o$10519bo$10518bo20$10495b2o$10494bobo$10496bo21$10472b2o
$10473b2o$10472bo26$10444b2o$10443bobo$10445bo21$10421b3o$10423bo$
10422bo20$10399b2o$10398bobo$10400bo21$10376b3o$10378bo$10377bo25$
10349b2o$10350b2o$10349bo21$10326b3o$10328bo$10327bo21$10303b2o$10302b
obo$10304bo21$10280b2o$10281b2o$10280bo21$10257b3o$10259bo$10258bo22$
10233b3o$10235bo$10234bo20$10211b2o$10210bobo$10212bo22$10187bo$10187b
2o$10186bobo21$10164b2o$10163bobo$10165bo21$10141b2o$10142b2o$10141bo
30$10109bo$10109b2o$10108bobo22$10085b2o$10086b2o$10085bo20$10063bo$
10063b2o$10062bobo25$10036b3o$10038bo$10037bo20$10014b2o$10013bobo$
10015bo22$9990b2o$9991b2o$9990bo34$9954b3o$9956bo$9955bo22$9930bo$
9930b2o$9929bobo26$9902b3o$9904bo$9903bo20$9880bo$9880b2o$9879bobo22$
9856b3o$9858bo$9857bo20$9834bo$9834b2o$9833bobo30$9802b2o$9801bobo$
9803bo21$9779b2o$9780b2o$9779bo20$9757bo$9757b2o$9756bobo35$9720b3o$
9722bo$9721bo20$9698bo$9698b2o$9697bobo21$9675b2o$9676b2o$9675bo20$
9653bo$9653b2o$9652bobo41$9610bo$9610b2o$9609bobo26$9582b2o$9583b2o$
9582bo21$9559b2o$9560b2o$9559bo20$9537bo$9537b2o$9536bobo25$9510b2o$
9509bobo$9511bo21$9487b3o$9489bo$9488bo20$9465b2o$9464bobo$9466bo21$
9442b2o$9443b2o$9442bo25$9415b2o$9414bobo$9416bo21$9392b2o$9393b2o$
9392bo21$9369b2o$9368bobo$9370bo21$9346b2o$9347b2o$9346bo37$9307b3o$
9309bo$9308bo24$9281b2o$9280bobo$9282bo21$9258b2o$9259b2o$9258bo20$
9236bo$9236b2o$9235bobo33$9201b2o$9200bobo$9202bo21$9178b2o$9179b2o$
9178bo24$9152b2o$9153b2o$9152bo21$9129b3o$9131bo$9130bo20$9107b2o$
9106bobo$9108bo21$9084bo$9084b2o$9083bobo24$9058bo$9058b2o$9057bobo21$
9035b2o$9034bobo$9036bo21$9012b2o$9013b2o$9012bo34$8976b3o$8978bo$
8977bo20$8954bo$8954b2o$8953bobo26$8926b2o$8927b2o$8926bo36$8888b2o$
8887bobo$8889bo39$8847b3o$8849bo$8848bo20$8825b2o$8824bobo$8826bo21$
8802b2o$8803b2o$8802bo21$8779b2o$8778bobo$8780bo39$8738b2o$8739b2o$
8738bo25$8711b2o$8710bobo$8712bo21$8688b3o$8690bo$8689bo21$8665b2o$
8666b2o$8665bo21$8642b3o$8644bo$8643bo20$8620bo$8620b2o$8619bobo23$
8595b2o$8596b2o$8595bo20$8573bo$8573b2o$8572bobo21$8550b2o$8551b2o$
8550bo23$8525b2o$8526b2o$8525bo20$8503bo$8503b2o$8502bobo21$8480b2o$
8481b2o$8480bo21$8457b3o$8459bo$8458bo20$8435bo$8435b2o$8434bobo30$
8403b2o$8404b2o$8403bo20$8381bo$8381b2o$8380bobo27$8352bo$8352b2o$
8351bobo21$8329b2o$8330b2o$8329bo20$8307bo$8307b2o$8306bobo37$8268bo$
8268b2o$8267bobo21$8245b2o$8244bobo$8246bo23$8220bo$8220b2o$8219bobo
21$8197b2o$8196bobo$8198bo24$8171b2o$8170bobo$8172bo21$8148b3o$8150bo$
8149bo26$8120b2o$8119bobo$8121bo21$8097b2o$8098b2o$8097bo25$8070b2o$
8069bobo$8071bo21$8047b2o$8048b2o$8047bo21$8024bo$8024b2o$8023bobo21$
8001b2o$8000bobo$8002bo21$7978b2o$7979b2o$7978bo21$7955b2o$7956b2o$
7955bo20$7933bo$7933b2o$7932bobo34$7897b2o$7896bobo$7898bo21$7874b3o$
7876bo$7875bo20$7852bo$7852b2o$7851bobo38$7812b2o$7813b2o$7812bo20$
7790bo$7790b2o$7789bobo26$7762b3o$7764bo$7763bo20$7740bo$7740b2o$7739b
obo22$7716b2o$7717b2o$7716bo21$7693b3o$7695bo$7694bo20$7671bo$7671b2o$
7670bobo21$7648bo$7648b2o$7647bobo21$7625b2o$7626b2o$7625bo22$7601b2o$
7600bobo$7602bo21$7578b2o$7579b2o$7578bo20$7556bo$7556b2o$7555bobo21$
7533b2o$7532bobo$7534bo21$7510b3o$7512bo$7511bo38$7470b2o$7471b2o$
7470bo21$7447b3o$7449bo$7448bo20$7425bo$7425b2o$7424bobo21$7402b2o$
7401bobo$7403bo21$7379b2o$7380b2o$7379bo21$7356b3o$7358bo$7357bo23$
7331bo$7331b2o$7330bobo31$7298b2o$7299b2o$7298bo25$7271b2o$7270bobo$
7272bo21$7248b3o$7250bo$7249bo21$7225b2o$7226b2o$7225bo21$7202b3o$
7204bo$7203bo20$7180bo$7180b2o$7179bobo21$7157bo$7157b2o$7156bobo21$
7134b2o$7135b2o$7134bo20$7112bo$7112b2o$7111bobo21$7089b2o$7088bobo$
7090bo21$7066b3o$7068bo$7067bo25$7039b2o$7038bobo$7040bo21$7016b3o$
7018bo$7017bo20$6994b2o$6993bobo$6995bo21$6971b2o$6972b2o$6971bo29$
6940b2o$6941b2o$6940bo31$6907b2o$6906bobo$6908bo21$6884b3o$6886bo$
6885bo20$6862bo$6862b2o$6861bobo27$6833b3o$6835bo$6834bo20$6811b2o$
6810bobo$6812bo21$6788b3o$6790bo$6789bo20$6766bo$6766b2o$6765bobo26$
6738b3o$6740bo$6739bo20$6716bo$6716b2o$6715bobo22$6692b3o$6694bo$6693b
o20$6670bo$6670b2o$6669bobo37$6631b2o$6630bobo$6632bo25$6604b3o$6606bo
$6605bo20$6582bo$6582b2o$6581bobo21$6559b2o$6560b2o$6559bo33$6524b3o$
6526bo$6525bo20$6502bo$6502b2o$6501bobo24$6476bo$6476b2o$6475bobo21$
6453b2o$6452bobo$6454bo21$6430b3o$6432bo$6431bo21$6407b2o$6408b2o$
6407bo24$6381b2o$6382b2o$6381bo21$6358b3o$6360bo$6359bo20$6336bo$6336b
2o$6335bobo34$6300b2o$6299bobo$6301bo21$6277b2o$6278b2o$6277bo25$6250b
o$6250b2o$6249bobo37$6211b3o$6213bo$6212bo38$6171b2o$6170bobo$6172bo
21$6148b3o$6150bo$6149bo20$6126bo$6126b2o$6125bobo22$6102b3o$6104bo$
6103bo38$6062bo$6062b2o$6061bobo26$6034b3o$6036bo$6035bo20$6012b2o$
6011bobo$6013bo21$5989bo$5989b2o$5988bobo21$5966b2o$5965bobo$5967bo21$
5943b2o$5944b2o$5943bo22$5919bo$5919b2o$5918bobo21$5896b2o$5897b2o$
5896bo20$5874bo$5874b2o$5873bobo22$5850b3o$5852bo$5851bo20$5828bo$
5828b2o$5827bobo21$5805b2o$5806b2o$5805bo20$5783bo$5783b2o$5782bobo21$
5760b2o$5761b2o$5760bo59$5699bo$5699b2o$5698bobo21$5676b2o$5677b2o$
5676bo25$5649b2o$5648bobo$5650bo21$5626b2o$5627b2o$5626bo21$5603b2o$
5604b2o$5603bo20$5581bo$5581b2o$5580bobo21$5558b2o$5559b2o$5558bo20$
5536bo$5536b2o$5535bobo22$5512b3o$5514bo$5513bo20$5490b2o$5489bobo$
5491bo25$5463bo$5463b2o$5462bobo21$5440b2o$5439bobo$5441bo22$5416b3o$
5418bo$5417bo20$5394bo$5394b2o$5393bobo21$5371b2o$5370bobo$5372bo21$
5348b2o$5347bobo$5349bo21$5325b3o$5327bo$5326bo22$5301b2o$5302b2o$
5301bo21$5278b3o$5280bo$5279bo20$5256b2o$5255bobo$5257bo21$5233b2o$
5234b2o$5233bo20$5211bo$5211b2o$5210bobo39$5170b3o$5172bo$5171bo20$
5148bo$5148b2o$5147bobo21$5125b2o$5124bobo$5126bo21$5102b2o$5103b2o$
5102bo21$5079b3o$5081bo$5080bo20$5057bo$5057b2o$5056bobo24$5031b2o$
5030bobo$5032bo31$4998b3o$5000bo$4999bo25$4971b2o$4972b2o$4971bo20$
4949bo$4949b2o$4948bobo22$4925b3o$4927bo$4926bo20$4903bo$4903b2o$4902b
obo21$4880b2o$4879bobo$4881bo21$4857b2o$4856bobo$4858bo21$4834b3o$
4836bo$4835bo20$4812b2o$4811bobo$4813bo21$4789b2o$4790b2o$4789bo20$
4767bo$4767b2o$4766bobo26$4739b2o$4740b2o$4739bo20$4717bo$4717b2o$
4716bobo21$4694b2o$4695b2o$4694bo21$4671b3o$4673bo$4672bo29$4640b3o$
4642bo$4641bo31$4607b2o$4608b2o$4607bo20$4585bo$4585b2o$4584bobo21$
4562b2o$4561bobo$4563bo26$4534bo$4534b2o$4533bobo21$4511b2o$4512b2o$
4511bo20$4489bo$4489b2o$4488bobo21$4466b2o$4465bobo$4467bo25$4439bo$
4439b2o$4438bobo21$4416b2o$4415bobo$4417bo22$4392b3o$4394bo$4393bo20$
4370bo$4370b2o$4369bobo21$4347b2o$4346bobo$4348bo32$4313b2o$4312bobo$
4314bo21$4290b2o$4291b2o$4290bo20$4268bo$4268b2o$4267bobo21$4245b2o$
4244bobo$4246bo24$4219b2o$4218bobo$4220bo21$4196b3o$4198bo$4197bo20$
4174b2o$4173bobo$4175bo21$4151b3o$4153bo$4152bo25$4124b2o$4123bobo$
4125bo21$4101b3o$4103bo$4102bo20$4079b2o$4078bobo$4080bo23$4054b3o$
4056bo$4055bo20$4032bo$4032b2o$4031bobo26$4004b3o$4006bo$4005bo20$
3982bo$3982b2o$3981bobo22$3958b3o$3960bo$3959bo20$3936bo$3936b2o$3935b
obo35$3899b3o$3901bo$3900bo51$3846bo$3846b2o$3845bobo25$3819b2o$3820b
2o$3819bo20$3797bo$3797b2o$3796bobo21$3774b2o$3775b2o$3774bo21$3751b3o
$3753bo$3752bo20$3729bo$3729b2o$3728bobo42$3685b2o$3686b2o$3685bo20$
3663bo$3663b2o$3662bobo38$3623b2o$3624b2o$3623bo20$3601bo$3601b2o$
3600bobo21$3578b2o$3579b2o$3578bo20$3556bo$3556b2o$3555bobo21$3533b2o$
3532bobo$3534bo32$3499bo$3499b2o$3498bobo21$3476b2o$3477b2o$3476bo21$
3453b3o$3455bo$3454bo29$3422bo$3422b2o$3421bobo21$3399b2o$3400b2o$
3399bo25$3372b2o$3371bobo$3373bo21$3349b2o$3350b2o$3349bo21$3326b2o$
3325bobo$3327bo21$3303b2o$3304b2o$3303bo22$3279b2o$3278bobo$3280bo21$
3256b2o$3257b2o$3256bo21$3233b3o$3235bo$3234bo24$3207b2o$3206bobo$
3208bo21$3184b2o$3185b2o$3184bo20$3162bo$3162b2o$3161bobo21$3139b2o$
3140b2o$3139bo20$3117bo$3117b2o$3116bobo21$3094b2o$3095b2o$3094bo20$
3072bo$3072b2o$3071bobo21$3049b2o$3048bobo$3050bo39$3008b2o$3009b2o$
3008bo20$2986bo$2986b2o$2985bobo21$2963b2o$2964b2o$2963bo24$2937b2o$
2938b2o$2937bo20$2915bo$2915b2o$2914bobo26$2887b3o$2889bo$2888bo20$
2865bo$2865b2o$2864bobo22$2841b3o$2843bo$2842bo20$2819bo$2819b2o$2818b
obo35$2782b3o$2784bo$2783bo51$2729bo$2729b2o$2728bobo25$2702b2o$2703b
2o$2702bo20$2680bo$2680b2o$2679bobo21$2657b2o$2658b2o$2657bo21$2634b3o
$2636bo$2635bo20$2612bo$2612b2o$2611bobo42$2568b2o$2569b2o$2568bo20$
2546bo$2546b2o$2545bobo38$2506b2o$2507b2o$2506bo20$2484bo$2484b2o$
2483bobo21$2461b2o$2462b2o$2461bo20$2439bo$2439b2o$2438bobo21$2416b2o$
2415bobo$2417bo32$2382bo$2382b2o$2381bobo21$2359b2o$2360b2o$2359bo21$
2336b3o$2338bo$2337bo29$2305bo$2305b2o$2304bobo21$2282b2o$2283b2o$
2282bo25$2255b2o$2254bobo$2256bo21$2232b2o$2233b2o$2232bo21$2209bo$
2209b2o$2208bobo21$2186b2o$2185bobo$2187bo21$2163b2o$2164b2o$2163bo32$
2129b2o$2130b2o$2129bo21$2106b3o$2108bo$2107bo20$2084b2o$2083bobo$
2085bo21$2061b2o$2062b2o$2061bo24$2035b2o$2036b2o$2035bo20$2013bo$
2013b2o$2012bobo21$1990b2o$1991b2o$1990bo20$1968bo$1968b2o$1967bobo26$
1940b2o$1941b2o$1940bo20$1918bo$1918b2o$1917bobo21$1895b2o$1896b2o$
1895bo22$1871bo$1871b2o$1870bobo21$1848b2o$1849b2o$1848bo25$1821b2o$
1820bobo$1822bo21$1798b2o$1799b2o$1798bo21$1775bo$1775b2o$1774bobo21$
1752b2o$1751bobo$1753bo21$1729b2o$1730b2o$1729bo21$1706b2o$1707b2o$
1706bo20$1684bo$1684b2o$1683bobo23$1659b3o$1661bo$1660bo20$1637bo$
1637b2o$1636bobo21$1614b2o$1615b2o$1614bo21$1591b3o$1593bo$1592bo20$
1569b2o$1568bobo$1570bo38$1529bo$1529b2o$1528bobo21$1506b2o$1505bobo$
1507bo21$1483b2o$1484b2o$1483bo21$1460b3o$1462bo$1461bo20$1438bo$1438b
2o$1437bobo21$1415b2o$1414bobo$1416bo24$1389b2o$1390b2o$1389bo30$1357b
o$1357b2o$1356bobo26$1329b3o$1331bo$1330bo20$1307bo$1307b2o$1306bobo
22$1283b2o$1284b2o$1283bo21$1260b3o$1262bo$1261bo20$1238bo$1238b2o$
1237bobo32$1204bo$1204b2o$1203bobo21$1181b2o$1180bobo$1182bo21$1158b3o
$1160bo$1159bo20$1136bo$1136b2o$1135bobo33$1101b2o$1100bobo$1102bo23$
1076b3o$1078bo$1077bo20$1054b2o$1053bobo$1055bo22$1030b3o$1032bo$1031b
o20$1008b2o$1007bobo$1009bo22$984b2o$985b2o$984bo20$962bo$962b2o$961bo
bo21$939b2o$938bobo$940bo28$909b3o$911bo$910bo49$858bo$858b2o$857bobo
22$834b3o$836bo$835bo20$812b2o$811bobo$813bo25$785bo$785b2o$784bobo21$
762b2o$761bobo$763bo21$739bo$739b2o$738bobo21$716b2o$717b2o$716bo41$
673b3o$675bo$674bo20$651b2o$650bobo$652bo21$628b3o$630bo$629bo20$606bo
$606b2o$605bobo37$567b2o$568b2o$567bo25$540bo$540b2o$539bobo41$497b3o$
499bo$498bo24$471bo$471b2o$470bobo21$448b2o$447bobo$449bo21$425b3o$
427bo$426bo22$401bo$401b2o$400bobo21$378b2o$377bobo$379bo29$347b3o$
349bo$348bo20$325b2o$324bobo$326bo21$302b3o$304bo$303bo37$263bo$263b2o
$262bobo21$240b2o$241b2o$240bo20$218bo$218b2o$217bobo26$190b3o$192bo$
191bo20$168bo$168b2o$167bobo22$144b2o$145b2o$144bo21$121b3o$123bo$122b
o20$99bo$99b2o$98bobo21$76bo$76b2o$75bobo21$53b2o$54b2o$53bo28$23b3o$
25bo$24bo20$b2o$obo$2bo!

Code: Select all

x = 16978, y = 17049, rule = B3/S23
16903b2o$16903b2o66$16976b2o$16976b2o5$16973b2o$16972bobo$16974bo25$
16946bo$16946b2o$16945bobo21$16923b2o$16922bobo$16924bo22$16899b3o$
16901bo$16900bo20$16877bo$16877b2o$16876bobo21$16854b2o$16853bobo$
16855bo21$16831b2o$16830bobo$16832bo21$16808b3o$16810bo$16809bo33$
16773bo$16773b2o$16772bobo21$16750b2o$16751b2o$16750bo21$16727b3o$
16729bo$16728bo37$16688b3o$16690bo$16689bo20$16666b2o$16665bobo$16667b
o24$16640b2o$16639bobo$16641bo39$16599b2o$16598bobo$16600bo25$16572bo$
16572b2o$16571bobo21$16549b2o$16548bobo$16550bo22$16525b3o$16527bo$
16526bo20$16503bo$16503b2o$16502bobo21$16480b2o$16481b2o$16480bo22$
16456b2o$16457b2o$16456bo20$16434bo$16434b2o$16433bobo21$16411b2o$
16410bobo$16412bo35$16374b3o$16376bo$16375bo58$16314b3o$16316bo$16315b
o25$16287b2o$16288b2o$16287bo21$16264b3o$16266bo$16265bo21$16241b2o$
16240bobo$16242bo21$16218b2o$16219b2o$16218bo21$16195b3o$16197bo$
16196bo21$16172b3o$16174bo$16173bo20$16150b2o$16149bobo$16151bo34$
16114b2o$16115b2o$16114bo20$16092bo$16092b2o$16091bobo21$16069b2o$
16068bobo$16070bo38$16029b3o$16031bo$16030bo20$16007bo$16007b2o$16006b
obo26$15979b3o$15981bo$15980bo20$15957bo$15957b2o$15956bobo22$15933b2o
$15934b2o$15933bo21$15910b3o$15912bo$15911bo20$15888bo$15888b2o$15887b
obo21$15865bo$15865b2o$15864bobo21$15842b2o$15843b2o$15842bo22$15818b
2o$15817bobo$15819bo21$15795b2o$15796b2o$15795bo20$15773bo$15773b2o$
15772bobo21$15750b2o$15749bobo$15751bo21$15727b3o$15729bo$15728bo38$
15687b2o$15688b2o$15687bo21$15664b3o$15666bo$15665bo20$15642bo$15642b
2o$15641bobo21$15619b2o$15618bobo$15620bo21$15596b2o$15597b2o$15596bo
21$15573b3o$15575bo$15574bo23$15548bo$15548b2o$15547bobo31$15515b2o$
15516b2o$15515bo25$15488b2o$15487bobo$15489bo21$15465b2o$15466b2o$
15465bo21$15442b2o$15441bobo$15443bo21$15419b2o$15420b2o$15419bo22$
15395b2o$15394bobo$15396bo21$15372b3o$15374bo$15373bo20$15350b2o$
15349bobo$15351bo29$15319b3o$15321bo$15320bo20$15297bo$15297b2o$15296b
obo31$15264bo$15264b2o$15263bobo21$15241b2o$15242b2o$15241bo22$15217bo
$15217b2o$15216bobo21$15194b2o$15193bobo$15195bo21$15171b2o$15172b2o$
15171bo24$15145b2o$15144bobo$15146bo21$15122b2o$15123b2o$15122bo20$
15100bo$15100b2o$15099bobo27$15071bo$15071b2o$15070bobo21$15048b2o$
15049b2o$15048bo26$15020b2o$15021b2o$15020bo20$14998bo$14998b2o$14997b
obo26$14970b3o$14972bo$14971bo20$14948b2o$14947bobo$14949bo21$14925bo$
14925b2o$14924bobo21$14902b2o$14901bobo$14903bo21$14879b2o$14880b2o$
14879bo20$14857bo$14857b2o$14856bobo21$14834b2o$14835b2o$14834bo21$
14811b3o$14813bo$14812bo20$14789bo$14789b2o$14788bobo21$14766b2o$
14767b2o$14766bo20$14744bo$14744b2o$14743bobo21$14721b2o$14720bobo$
14722bo21$14698b3o$14700bo$14699bo20$14676b2o$14675bobo$14677bo22$
14652b3o$14654bo$14653bo20$14630b2o$14629bobo$14631bo21$14607b3o$
14609bo$14608bo25$14580b2o$14581b2o$14580bo21$14557b3o$14559bo$14558bo
21$14534b2o$14535b2o$14534bo21$14511b3o$14513bo$14512bo22$14487b2o$
14488b2o$14487bo20$14465bo$14465b2o$14464bobo21$14442b2o$14443b2o$
14442bo28$14412bo$14412b2o$14411bobo21$14389b2o$14388bobo$14390bo31$
14356b2o$14355bobo$14357bo21$14333b3o$14335bo$14334bo22$14309b2o$
14308bobo$14310bo21$14286b2o$14287b2o$14286bo21$14263b3o$14265bo$
14264bo24$14237b2o$14238b2o$14237bo21$14214b3o$14216bo$14215bo20$
14192b2o$14191bobo$14193bo27$14163b2o$14162bobo$14164bo21$14140b3o$
14142bo$14141bo26$14112b3o$14114bo$14113bo20$14090b2o$14089bobo$14091b
o25$14063bo$14063b2o$14062bobo21$14040b2o$14039bobo$14041bo21$14017bo$
14017b2o$14016bobo21$13994b2o$13993bobo$13995bo30$13962b2o$13963b2o$
13962bo21$13939b3o$13941bo$13940bo20$13917b2o$13916bobo$13918bo26$
13889bo$13889b2o$13888bobo21$13866b2o$13867b2o$13866bo20$13844bo$
13844b2o$13843bobo27$13815b2o$13814bobo$13816bo21$13792b3o$13794bo$
13793bo35$13755b2o$13756b2o$13755bo20$13733bo$13733b2o$13732bobo23$
13708b2o$13709b2o$13708bo20$13686bo$13686b2o$13685bobo21$13663b2o$
13662bobo$13664bo24$13637b2o$13638b2o$13637bo20$13615bo$13615b2o$
13614bobo21$13592b2o$13593b2o$13592bo32$13558b3o$13560bo$13559bo31$
13525b2o$13524bobo$13526bo21$13502b3o$13504bo$13503bo20$13480b2o$
13479bobo$13481bo21$13457bo$13457b2o$13456bobo21$13434b2o$13435b2o$
13434bo25$13407b2o$13406bobo$13408bo21$13384b2o$13385b2o$13384bo21$
13361bo$13361b2o$13360bobo21$13338b2o$13337bobo$13339bo21$13315b2o$
13316b2o$13315bo21$13292b2o$13293b2o$13292bo20$13270bo$13270b2o$13269b
obo23$13245b3o$13247bo$13246bo20$13223bo$13223b2o$13222bobo21$13200b2o
$13201b2o$13200bo21$13177b3o$13179bo$13178bo20$13155b2o$13154bobo$
13156bo38$13115bo$13115b2o$13114bobo21$13092b2o$13091bobo$13093bo21$
13069b2o$13070b2o$13069bo21$13046b3o$13048bo$13047bo20$13024bo$13024b
2o$13023bobo21$13001b2o$13000bobo$13002bo24$12975b2o$12976b2o$12975bo
30$12943bo$12943b2o$12942bobo26$12915b3o$12917bo$12916bo20$12893b2o$
12892bobo$12894bo21$12870bo$12870b2o$12869bobo21$12847b2o$12846bobo$
12848bo21$12824b2o$12825b2o$12824bo21$12801b2o$12802b2o$12801bo20$
12779bo$12779b2o$12778bobo21$12756b2o$12757b2o$12756bo21$12733b3o$
12735bo$12734bo20$12711b2o$12710bobo$12712bo26$12683b3o$12685bo$12684b
o20$12661b2o$12660bobo$12662bo21$12638b3o$12640bo$12639bo20$12616bo$
12616b2o$12615bobo29$12585bo$12585b2o$12584bobo32$12551b3o$12553bo$
12552bo20$12529b2o$12528bobo$12530bo21$12506b2o$12507b2o$12506bo26$
12478b2o$12477bobo$12479bo21$12455b3o$12457bo$12456bo20$12433b2o$
12432bobo$12434bo21$12410b3o$12412bo$12411bo25$12383b2o$12384b2o$
12383bo20$12361bo$12361b2o$12360bobo22$12337b3o$12339bo$12338bo20$
12315bo$12315b2o$12314bobo21$12292b2o$12291bobo$12293bo34$12256b3o$
12258bo$12257bo20$12234bo$12234b2o$12233bobo26$12206b3o$12208bo$12207b
o20$12184b2o$12183bobo$12185bo21$12161b2o$12160bobo$12162bo21$12138b3o
$12140bo$12139bo23$12113b3o$12115bo$12114bo20$12091b2o$12090bobo$
12092bo21$12068b3o$12070bo$12069bo38$12028bo$12028b2o$12027bobo43$
11983b3o$11985bo$11984bo20$11961b2o$11960bobo$11962bo21$11938b3o$
11940bo$11939bo20$11916b2o$11915bobo$11917bo28$11886bo$11886b2o$11885b
obo21$11863b2o$11862bobo$11864bo21$11840b2o$11841b2o$11840bo22$11816b
2o$11817b2o$11816bo21$11793b3o$11795bo$11794bo33$11758bo$11758b2o$
11757bobo21$11735b2o$11734bobo$11736bo25$11708bo$11708b2o$11707bobo21$
11685b2o$11684bobo$11686bo21$11662bo$11662b2o$11661bobo21$11639b2o$
11638bobo$11640bo34$11603bo$11603b2o$11602bobo52$11549b2o$11548bobo$
11550bo25$11522b3o$11524bo$11523bo20$11500b2o$11499bobo$11501bo21$
11477b3o$11479bo$11478bo20$11455bo$11455b2o$11454bobo21$11432b2o$
11431bobo$11433bo42$11388b3o$11390bo$11389bo20$11366b2o$11365bobo$
11367bo38$11326b3o$11328bo$11327bo20$11304b2o$11303bobo$11305bo21$
11281b3o$11283bo$11282bo20$11259b2o$11258bobo$11260bo21$11236b2o$
11237b2o$11236bo32$11202b2o$11201bobo$11203bo21$11179b3o$11181bo$
11180bo20$11157bo$11157b2o$11156bobo30$11125b2o$11124bobo$11126bo21$
11102b3o$11104bo$11103bo25$11075b2o$11076b2o$11075bo21$11052b3o$11054b
o$11053bo21$11029b2o$11030b2o$11029bo20$11007bo$11007b2o$11006bobo29$
10976b2o$10975bobo$10977bo21$10953b3o$10955bo$10954bo24$10927b2o$
10928b2o$10927bo20$10905bo$10905b2o$10904bobo21$10882b2o$10883b2o$
10882bo26$10854b3o$10856bo$10855bo20$10832b2o$10831bobo$10833bo26$
10804b2o$10803bobo$10805bo21$10781b2o$10782b2o$10781bo20$10759bo$
10759b2o$10758bobo23$10734b2o$10735b2o$10734bo20$10712bo$10712b2o$
10711bobo22$10688bo$10688b2o$10687bobo24$10662bo$10662b2o$10661bobo21$
10639b2o$10638bobo$10640bo21$10616b2o$10617b2o$10616bo20$10594bo$
10594b2o$10593bobo25$10567b2o$10566bobo$10568bo43$10522bo$10522b2o$
10521bobo26$10494b3o$10496bo$10495bo20$10472b2o$10471bobo$10473bo21$
10449bo$10449b2o$10448bobo21$10426b2o$10425bobo$10427bo21$10403b3o$
10405bo$10404bo21$10380bo$10380b2o$10379bobo21$10357b2o$10356bobo$
10358bo21$10334b2o$10335b2o$10334bo25$10307b2o$10306bobo$10308bo21$
10284b2o$10285b2o$10284bo20$10262bo$10262b2o$10261bobo21$10239b2o$
10240b2o$10239bo21$10216b3o$10218bo$10217bo22$10192bo$10192b2o$10191bo
bo21$10169b2o$10170b2o$10169bo22$10145bo$10145b2o$10144bobo21$10122b2o
$10123b2o$10122bo20$10100bo$10100b2o$10099bobo28$10070b2o$10071b2o$
10070bo21$10047b3o$10049bo$10048bo20$10025b2o$10024bobo$10026bo21$
10002b3o$10004bo$10003bo20$9980b2o$9979bobo$9981bo21$9957b3o$9959bo$
9958bo20$9935b2o$9934bobo$9936bo25$9908bo$9908b2o$9907bobo21$9885b2o$
9884bobo$9886bo22$9861b3o$9863bo$9862bo20$9839bo$9839b2o$9838bobo21$
9816b2o$9815bobo$9817bo21$9793b2o$9792bobo$9794bo21$9770b3o$9772bo$
9771bo22$9746b2o$9747b2o$9746bo21$9723b3o$9725bo$9724bo20$9701b2o$
9700bobo$9702bo21$9678b2o$9679b2o$9678bo20$9656bo$9656b2o$9655bobo39$
9615b3o$9617bo$9616bo20$9593bo$9593b2o$9592bobo21$9570b2o$9569bobo$
9571bo21$9547b2o$9548b2o$9547bo21$9524b3o$9526bo$9525bo20$9502bo$9502b
2o$9501bobo24$9476b2o$9475bobo$9477bo31$9443b3o$9445bo$9444bo25$9416b
2o$9417b2o$9416bo21$9393b3o$9395bo$9394bo21$9370b2o$9369bobo$9371bo21$
9347b2o$9348b2o$9347bo21$9324b3o$9326bo$9325bo32$9290b3o$9292bo$9291bo
20$9268bo$9268b2o$9267bobo21$9245b2o$9246b2o$9245bo21$9222b3o$9224bo$
9223bo32$9188bo$9188b2o$9187bobo23$9163b2o$9164b2o$9163bo20$9141bo$
9141b2o$9140bobo37$9102bo$9102b2o$9101bobo32$9068b2o$9069b2o$9068bo25$
9041b2o$9040bobo$9042bo21$9018b2o$9019b2o$9018bo21$8995bo$8995b2o$
8994bobo21$8972b2o$8971bobo$8973bo21$8949b2o$8950b2o$8949bo32$8915b2o$
8916b2o$8915bo20$8893bo$8893b2o$8892bobo21$8870b2o$8871b2o$8870bo20$
8848bo$8848b2o$8847bobo29$8817bo$8817b2o$8816bobo21$8794b2o$8795b2o$
8794bo21$8771b3o$8773bo$8772bo24$8745b2o$8744bobo$8746bo36$8707b3o$
8709bo$8708bo35$8670b2o$8671b2o$8670bo20$8648bo$8648b2o$8647bobo21$
8625b2o$8626b2o$8625bo26$8597bo$8597b2o$8596bobo21$8574b2o$8575b2o$
8574bo32$8540b2o$8539bobo$8541bo38$8500b2o$8499bobo$8501bo21$8477b2o$
8478b2o$8477bo21$8454b2o$8455b2o$8454bo20$8432bo$8432b2o$8431bobo26$
8404b3o$8406bo$8405bo20$8382bo$8382b2o$8381bobo22$8358b3o$8360bo$8359b
o20$8336bo$8336b2o$8335bobo35$8299b3o$8301bo$8300bo51$8246bo$8246b2o$
8245bobo25$8219b2o$8220b2o$8219bo20$8197bo$8197b2o$8196bobo21$8174b2o$
8175b2o$8174bo21$8151b3o$8153bo$8152bo20$8129bo$8129b2o$8128bobo42$
8085b2o$8086b2o$8085bo20$8063bo$8063b2o$8062bobo38$8023b2o$8024b2o$
8023bo20$8001bo$8001b2o$8000bobo21$7978b2o$7979b2o$7978bo20$7956bo$
7956b2o$7955bobo21$7933b2o$7932bobo$7934bo32$7899bo$7899b2o$7898bobo
21$7876b2o$7877b2o$7876bo21$7853b3o$7855bo$7854bo29$7822bo$7822b2o$
7821bobo21$7799b2o$7800b2o$7799bo25$7772b2o$7771bobo$7773bo21$7749b2o$
7750b2o$7749bo21$7726b2o$7725bobo$7727bo21$7703b3o$7705bo$7704bo28$
7673bo$7673b2o$7672bobo21$7650b2o$7651b2o$7650bo24$7624b2o$7623bobo$
7625bo21$7601b3o$7603bo$7602bo20$7579b2o$7578bobo$7580bo26$7551b2o$
7552b2o$7551bo20$7529bo$7529b2o$7528bobo26$7501bo$7501b2o$7500bobo21$
7478b2o$7477bobo$7479bo21$7455b3o$7457bo$7456bo22$7431b2o$7430bobo$
7432bo21$7408b3o$7410bo$7409bo22$7384b3o$7386bo$7385bo24$7358b3o$7360b
o$7359bo20$7336bo$7336b2o$7335bobo21$7313b2o$7312bobo$7314bo21$7290b3o
$7292bo$7291bo24$7264bo$7264b2o$7263bobo44$7218b3o$7220bo$7219bo25$
7191b2o$7192b2o$7191bo21$7168b3o$7170bo$7169bo21$7145b2o$7144bobo$
7146bo21$7122b2o$7123b2o$7122bo21$7099b3o$7101bo$7100bo32$7065b3o$
7067bo$7066bo20$7043b2o$7042bobo$7044bo21$7020b3o$7022bo$7021bo20$
6998b2o$6997bobo$6999bo29$6967b2o$6966bobo$6968bo21$6944b3o$6946bo$
6945bo20$6922bo$6922b2o$6921bobo25$6895b2o$6896b2o$6895bo35$6858bo$
6858b2o$6857bobo36$6820b3o$6822bo$6821bo20$6798b2o$6797bobo$6799bo21$
6775b3o$6777bo$6776bo26$6747b2o$6746bobo$6748bo21$6724b3o$6726bo$6725b
o32$6690b2o$6691b2o$6690bo38$6650b2o$6651b2o$6650bo21$6627b3o$6629bo$
6628bo21$6604b3o$6606bo$6605bo20$6582b2o$6581bobo$6583bo25$6555bo$
6555b2o$6554bobo21$6532b2o$6531bobo$6533bo21$6509bo$6509b2o$6508bobo
21$6486b2o$6485bobo$6487bo42$6442b3o$6444bo$6443bo20$6420b2o$6419bobo$
6421bo21$6397b2o$6398b2o$6397bo21$6374b3o$6376bo$6375bo20$6352b2o$
6351bobo$6353bo21$6329b3o$6331bo$6330bo20$6307bo$6307b2o$6306bobo28$
6277bo$6277b2o$6276bobo21$6254b2o$6253bobo$6255bo21$6231b3o$6233bo$
6232bo37$6192b2o$6193b2o$6192bo20$6170bo$6170b2o$6169bobo24$6144b3o$
6146bo$6145bo20$6122bo$6122b2o$6121bobo21$6099b2o$6098bobo$6100bo28$
6069b2o$6070b2o$6069bo20$6047bo$6047b2o$6046bobo21$6024b2o$6025b2o$
6024bo20$6002bo$6002b2o$6001bobo21$5979b2o$5980b2o$5979bo20$5957bo$
5957b2o$5956bobo21$5934b2o$5933bobo$5935bo25$5907bo$5907b2o$5906bobo
21$5884b2o$5883bobo$5885bo21$5861bo$5861b2o$5860bobo21$5838b2o$5837bob
o$5839bo34$5802bo$5802b2o$5801bobo52$5748b2o$5747bobo$5749bo25$5721b3o
$5723bo$5722bo20$5699b2o$5698bobo$5700bo21$5676b3o$5678bo$5677bo20$
5654bo$5654b2o$5653bobo21$5631b2o$5630bobo$5632bo42$5587b3o$5589bo$
5588bo20$5565b2o$5564bobo$5566bo38$5525b3o$5527bo$5526bo20$5503b2o$
5502bobo$5504bo21$5480b3o$5482bo$5481bo20$5458b2o$5457bobo$5459bo21$
5435b2o$5436b2o$5435bo32$5401b2o$5400bobo$5402bo21$5378b3o$5380bo$
5379bo20$5356bo$5356b2o$5355bobo30$5324b2o$5323bobo$5325bo21$5301b3o$
5303bo$5302bo25$5274b2o$5275b2o$5274bo21$5251b3o$5253bo$5252bo21$5228b
2o$5227bobo$5229bo21$5205b2o$5206b2o$5205bo21$5182b3o$5184bo$5183bo32$
5148b3o$5150bo$5149bo20$5126bo$5126b2o$5125bobo21$5103b2o$5104b2o$
5103bo21$5080b3o$5082bo$5081bo24$5054b3o$5056bo$5055bo20$5032b2o$5031b
obo$5033bo21$5009b3o$5011bo$5010bo20$4987b2o$4986bobo$4988bo26$4959b3o
$4961bo$4960bo20$4937b2o$4936bobo$4938bo21$4914b3o$4916bo$4915bo22$
4890b2o$4889bobo$4891bo21$4867b3o$4869bo$4868bo25$4840b2o$4841b2o$
4840bo21$4817b3o$4819bo$4818bo21$4794b2o$4793bobo$4795bo21$4771b2o$
4772b2o$4771bo21$4748b3o$4750bo$4749bo21$4725b3o$4727bo$4726bo20$4703b
2o$4702bobo$4704bo22$4679bo$4679b2o$4678bobo21$4656b2o$4655bobo$4657bo
21$4633b3o$4635bo$4634bo20$4611bo$4611b2o$4610bobo21$4588b2o$4589b2o$
4588bo38$4548b2o$4547bobo$4549bo21$4525b2o$4526b2o$4525bo21$4502b3o$
4504bo$4503bo20$4480bo$4480b2o$4479bobo21$4457b2o$4456bobo$4458bo21$
4434b2o$4435b2o$4434bo24$4408b3o$4410bo$4409bo30$4376b2o$4375bobo$
4377bo25$4349bo$4349b2o$4348bobo21$4326b2o$4327b2o$4326bo21$4303b2o$
4302bobo$4304bo21$4280b2o$4281b2o$4280bo21$4257b3o$4259bo$4258bo20$
4235b2o$4234bobo$4236bo21$4212b3o$4214bo$4213bo23$4187b3o$4189bo$4188b
o20$4165b2o$4164bobo$4166bo21$4142b3o$4144bo$4143bo34$4106b2o$4105bobo
$4107bo22$4082b2o$4081bobo$4083bo21$4059b3o$4061bo$4060bo20$4037b2o$
4036bobo$4038bo23$4012b2o$4013b2o$4012bo39$3971b2o$3970bobo$3972bo21$
3948b3o$3950bo$3949bo20$3926b2o$3925bobo$3927bo21$3903b2o$3904b2o$
3903bo21$3880b3o$3882bo$3881bo20$3858b2o$3857bobo$3859bo21$3835b2o$
3836b2o$3835bo20$3813bo$3813b2o$3812bobo21$3790b2o$3791b2o$3790bo21$
3767b3o$3769bo$3768bo20$3745b2o$3744bobo$3746bo25$3718bo$3718b2o$3717b
obo21$3695b2o$3696b2o$3695bo21$3672b2o$3671bobo$3673bo21$3649b2o$3650b
2o$3649bo20$3627bo$3627b2o$3626bobo22$3603b2o$3602bobo$3604bo21$3580b
2o$3581b2o$3580bo21$3557b3o$3559bo$3558bo32$3523b2o$3522bobo$3524bo37$
3484bo$3484b2o$3483bobo22$3460bo$3460b2o$3459bobo21$3437b2o$3438b2o$
3437bo28$3407b2o$3408b2o$3407bo21$3384b3o$3386bo$3385bo22$3360b2o$
3361b2o$3360bo25$3333b3o$3335bo$3334bo20$3311b2o$3310bobo$3312bo21$
3288b3o$3290bo$3289bo21$3265b2o$3266b2o$3265bo45$3218b2o$3219b2o$3218b
o25$3191b2o$3190bobo$3192bo21$3168b2o$3169b2o$3168bo21$3145bo$3145b2o$
3144bobo21$3122b2o$3121bobo$3123bo21$3099b2o$3100b2o$3099bo32$3065b2o$
3066b2o$3065bo21$3042b3o$3044bo$3043bo20$3020b2o$3019bobo$3021bo21$
2997b2o$2998b2o$2997bo33$2962b2o$2963b2o$2962bo21$2939bo$2939b2o$2938b
obo40$2897b2o$2898b2o$2897bo20$2875bo$2875b2o$2874bobo21$2852b2o$2853b
2o$2852bo21$2829b3o$2831bo$2830bo21$2806b2o$2805bobo$2807bo23$2781bo$
2781b2o$2780bobo21$2758b2o$2759b2o$2758bo25$2731b2o$2730bobo$2732bo21$
2708b2o$2709b2o$2708bo21$2685b2o$2684bobo$2686bo21$2662b2o$2663b2o$
2662bo30$2630b2o$2629bobo$2631bo35$2593bo$2593b2o$2592bobo21$2570b2o$
2569bobo$2571bo21$2547b3o$2549bo$2548bo20$2525b2o$2524bobo$2526bo24$
2499bo$2499b2o$2498bobo21$2476b2o$2477b2o$2476bo20$2454bo$2454b2o$
2453bobo21$2431b2o$2432b2o$2431bo20$2409bo$2409b2o$2408bobo27$2380b2o$
2381b2o$2380bo21$2357b3o$2359bo$2358bo23$2332b3o$2334bo$2333bo20$2310b
2o$2309bobo$2311bo21$2287b3o$2289bo$2288bo25$2260b2o$2261b2o$2260bo21$
2237b3o$2239bo$2238bo21$2214b2o$2215b2o$2214bo21$2191b3o$2193bo$2192bo
29$2160bo$2160b2o$2159bobo21$2137b2o$2136bobo$2138bo21$2114b3o$2116bo$
2115bo34$2078b2o$2079b2o$2078bo21$2055b3o$2057bo$2056bo20$2033b2o$
2032bobo$2034bo21$2010b3o$2012bo$2011bo41$1967b3o$1969bo$1968bo25$
1940b2o$1939bobo$1941bo21$1917b2o$1916bobo$1918bo21$1894b3o$1896bo$
1895bo24$1868bo$1868b2o$1867bobo21$1845b2o$1846b2o$1845bo20$1823bo$
1823b2o$1822bobo21$1800b2o$1801b2o$1800bo25$1773b2o$1772bobo$1774bo21$
1750b2o$1751b2o$1750bo21$1727b2o$1726bobo$1728bo21$1704b3o$1706bo$
1705bo37$1665b3o$1667bo$1666bo20$1643b2o$1642bobo$1644bo21$1620b3o$
1622bo$1621bo21$1597bo$1597b2o$1596bobo33$1562b2o$1563b2o$1562bo21$
1539b3o$1541bo$1540bo20$1517b2o$1516bobo$1518bo22$1493b2o$1492bobo$
1494bo29$1462b3o$1464bo$1463bo20$1440bo$1440b2o$1439bobo21$1417b2o$
1418b2o$1417bo22$1393b3o$1395bo$1394bo20$1371bo$1371b2o$1370bobo21$
1348b2o$1349b2o$1348bo20$1326bo$1326b2o$1325bobo21$1303b2o$1302bobo$
1304bo26$1275b3o$1277bo$1276bo30$1243b2o$1242bobo$1244bo21$1220b3o$
1222bo$1221bo30$1188bo$1188b2o$1187bobo30$1156bo$1156b2o$1155bobo26$
1128b3o$1130bo$1129bo20$1106b2o$1105bobo$1107bo21$1083bo$1083b2o$1082b
obo21$1060b2o$1059bobo$1061bo21$1037b2o$1038b2o$1037bo20$1015bo$1015b
2o$1014bobo21$992b2o$993b2o$992bo23$967b2o$968b2o$967bo20$945bo$945b2o
$944bobo21$922b2o$921bobo$923bo21$899b2o$900b2o$899bo20$877bo$877b2o$
876bobo27$848b2o$847bobo$849bo21$825b2o$826b2o$825bo21$802b3o$804bo$
803bo30$770bo$770b2o$769bobo21$747b2o$746bobo$748bo21$724b2o$725b2o$
724bo27$695b2o$694bobo$696bo42$651b2o$650bobo$652bo21$628b2o$629b2o$
628bo28$598b2o$597bobo$599bo21$575b3o$577bo$576bo25$548b2o$549b2o$548b
o21$525b3o$527bo$526bo21$502b2o$501bobo$503bo21$479b2o$480b2o$479bo20$
457bo$457b2o$456bobo22$433bo$433b2o$432bobo21$410b2o$411b2o$410bo21$
387b3o$389bo$388bo21$364b3o$366bo$365bo20$342b2o$341bobo$343bo52$288bo
$288b2o$287bobo21$265b2o$266b2o$265bo24$239b3o$241bo$240bo20$217b2o$
216bobo$218bo25$190bo$190b2o$189bobo21$167b2o$166bobo$168bo22$143b3o$
145bo$144bo20$121bo$121b2o$120bobo21$98b2o$97bobo$99bo21$75b2o$74bobo$
76bo21$52b3o$54bo$53bo27$23bo$23b2o$22bobo21$2o$b2o$o!

leading to these SS recipes:

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x = 16442, y = 16451, rule = B3/S23
2o$2o1007$1014bo$1013b2o$1013bobo1013$2024b2o$2023b2o$2025bo906$2921b
3o$2921bo$2922bo651$3586b2o$3585b2o$3587bo1021$4611b3o$4611bo$4612bo
664$5288b3o$5288bo$5289bo1228$6511b2o$6511bobo$6511bo584$7094b3o$7094b
o$7095bo870$7977b3o$7977bo$7978bo615$8595b2o$8595bobo$8595bo1226$9811b
o$9810b2o$9810bobo620$10425b2o$10424b2o$10426bo659$11088bo$11087b2o$
11087bobo1039$12125b2o$12124b2o$12126bo1147$13275bo$13274b2o$13274bobo
972$14262bo$14261b2o$14261bobo954$15221b2o$15220b2o$15222bo1237$16440b
2o$16439b2o$16441bo!

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x = 12813, y = 12795, rule = B3/S23
2o$2o1007$1014bo$1013b2o$1013bobo593$1612bo$1611b2o$1611bobo569$2174b
2o$2173b2o$2175bo1051$3239b3o$3239bo$3240bo924$4156b3o$4156bo$4157bo
1344$5510b2o$5510bobo$5510bo311$5828b3o$5828bo$5829bo1023$6862b2o$
6862bobo$6862bo1275$8122b2o$8122bobo$8122bo1021$9148b2o$9147b2o$9149bo
412$9567bo$9566b2o$9566bobo1132$10700bo$10699b2o$10699bobo1048$11750b
2o$11750bobo$11750bo1055$12810b2o$12810bobo$12810bo!

Anyways, there's an obvious problem with the single-channel recipes; they're far too expensive. I imagine that with more reasonably-priced FIRE recipes they could be reduced by a lot.

For some reason, my ideas keep coming back to some variation on this. (Which seems to be the general idea behind this very ship, in my mind.)

Post by **dvgrn** » July 6th, 2019, 1:56 pm

Moosey wrote:here's how slmake suggest making a boat from the side...
...
Now we basically need three other things:

PUSH, PULL, & FIRE.

Fortunately those are probably easier to find, and cheaper.

We need PUSH, PULL, FIREWHITE and FIREBLACK (probably) when we get to the actual construction-arm stage. My suggestion would be not to worry about that yet. Sort out all the details of the slide gun that's doing the memory storage and retrieval first.

The three things we might need for that would be DESTROY-ELBOW, RESET, and READ. READ is basically the same thing as FIRE. For the slide gun we don't need a PULL, necessarily. Reading the boat chains has to be done by PUSHes, and we can write them with PUSHes, too.

However, the boat recipes you've posted seem to be much less efficient than the two-block turner recipe I posted earlier. At least, if I were picking tuner recipes, I'd choose the two-block recipe in a heartbeat over those long single-channel streams. It's just nine gliders, plus a prefixed elbow duplicator recipe. Something like this, maybe:

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x = 811, y = 791, rule = LifeHistory
3.2D22.2D$3.2D22.2D3$32.2D$32.2D2$74.2A$74.2A$12.2C22.2A$12.2C22.2A$
79.2A$79.2A$41.2A$41.2A4$45.2A$45.2A$2B$2B$50.2A$50.2A11$101.2A$101.
2A$63.2A$63.2A$106.2A$106.2A$68.2A$68.2A2$110.2A$110.2A$72.2A$72.2A$
115.2A$115.2A$77.2A$77.2A63$111.3A$111.A$112.A13$137.3A$137.A$138.A
83$220.2A$219.2A$221.A57$277.A$276.2A$276.A.A52$331.A$330.2A$330.A.A
48$382.2A$381.2A$383.A57$438.2A$438.A.A$438.A69$511.A$510.2A$510.A.A
64$569.2A$568.2A$570.A51$633.2A$632.2A$634.A40$668.3A$668.A$669.A50$
704.2A$703.2A$705.A13$710.A$709.2A4.2A$709.A.A3.A.A$715.A9$731.2A$
731.A.A$731.A2$719.2A$718.2A$720.A4$767.2A$766.2A$768.A13$774.2A$773.
2A$775.A$780.2A12.2A$779.2A12.2A$781.A13.A9$797.2A$797.A.A$797.A$808.
2A$808.A.A$808.A!

That's just 22 gliders, with no synchronized -- not bad, at least compared with what was coming out of slmake. Some equivalent WRITE-BIT that we haven't found yet probably really needs only half as many synchronized gliders, possibly less than ten... if someone is willing to do the search.

Just to be clear, those "turner bits" would then be read by another block that gets PUSHed up the turner chain with a slide-gun mechanism:

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x = 437, y = 342, rule = LifeHistory
347.2A$347.2A3$352.2A$352.2A2$394.2A$394.2A$356.2A$356.2A$399.2A$399.
2A$361.2A$361.2A4$365.2A$365.2A3$370.2A$370.2A11$421.2A$421.2A$383.2A
$383.2A$426.2A$426.2A$388.2A$388.2A2$430.2A$430.2A$392.2A$392.2A$435.
2A$435.2A$397.2A$397.2A16$409.3A$411.A$410.A28$361.3A$363.A$362.A28$
313.3A$315.A$314.A8$29.6D6.4D9.3D95.6D$32.3D6.4D9.3D94.3D$32.3D19.3D
94.3D$32.3D19.3D94.3D$20.8D4.3D4.6D5.7D3.6D3.8D3.6D15.5D4.6D3.9D4.6D
13.3D5.8D3.6D3.8D$19.3D.4D5.3D7.3D4.3D2.3D2.3D2.3D2.4D.4D.3D2.3D13.3D
2.2D2.3D2.3D2.10D2.3D2.3D9.10D.4D.4D.3D2.3D2.9D$19.3D2.3D5.3D7.3D4.3D
2.3D2.3D2.3D2.3D3.3D.3D17.3D6.3D4.3D.3D.3D.2D2.3D2.3D12.3D5.3D3.6D4.
3D.2D.3D.2D$19.3D2.3D5.3D7.3D3.3D3.3D.3D4.3D.3D7.4D16.3D6.3D4.3D.3D.
3D.2D.3D4.3D11.3D5.3D6.3D4.3D.2D.3D.2D$19.3D.4D5.3D7.3D3.3D3.3D.10D.
3D8.6D13.3D6.3D4.3D.3D.3D.2D.10D11.3D5.3D6.3D4.3D.2D.3D.2D$19.7D6.3D
7.3D3.3D3.3D.3D8.3D11.4D12.3D6.3D4.3D.3D.3D.2D.3D18.3D5.3D6.3D4.3D.2D
.3D.2D$18.3D11.3D7.3D3.3D3.3D2.3D7.3D12.3D12.3D6.3D4.3D.3D.3D.2D2.3D
17.3D5.3D6.3D4.3D.2D.3D.2D$19.3D10.3D7.3D4.3D.4D2.3D7.3D7.2D3.3D12.4D
2.2D2.3D2.3D2.3D.3D.2D2.3D17.3D5.3D7.3D2.3D2.2D.3D.2D$19.8D2.8D2.8D3.
7D3.7D2.3D8.6D15.5D4.6D3.3D.3D.2D3.7D12.3D5.3D8.6D3.2D.3D.2D$18.4D3.
3D$18.3D4.3D$18.4D2.4D$19.7D4$265.3A$267.A$49.6D6.4D9.3D189.A$52.3D6.
4D9.3D$52.3D19.3D$52.3D19.3D$20.6D14.6D6.3D4.6D5.7D3.6D14.8D.3D2.3D2.
7D$19.3D2.3D12.3D2.3D5.3D7.3D4.3D2.3D2.3D2.3D12.3D.4D2.3D2.3D2.4D.3D$
24.3D12.3D10.3D7.3D4.3D2.3D2.3D2.3D12.3D2.3D2.3D2.3D2.3D2.3D$24.3D12.
4D9.3D7.3D3.3D3.3D.3D4.3D11.3D2.3D2.3D2.3D2.3D2.3D$20.7D13.6D6.3D7.3D
3.3D3.3D.10D11.3D.4D2.3D2.3D2.3D2.3D$19.3D2.3D16.4D5.3D7.3D3.3D3.3D.
3D18.7D3.3D2.3D2.3D2.3D$18.4D2.3D17.3D5.3D7.3D3.3D3.3D2.3D16.3D8.3D2.
3D2.3D2.3D$19.3D.4D12.2D3.3D5.3D7.3D4.3D.4D2.3D17.3D7.3D.4D2.3D2.3D$
19.8D13.6D3.8D2.8D3.7D3.7D12.8D3.7D2.3D2.3D$98.4D3.3D$98.3D4.3D$98.4D
2.4D$99.7D6$29.3D39.4D56.4D36.4D$20.3D6.3D18.3D18.4D56.4D36.4D$20.3D
6.3D18.3D$20.3D6.3D18.3D$18.9D2.7D4.6D2.9D12.6D5.6D11.9D4.6D2.3D4.3D.
6D4.7D4.8D11.6D4.7D$20.3D6.4D.3D2.3D2.3D3.3D19.3D4.3D2.3D10.10D2.3D2.
3D.4D2.4D4.3D4.4D.3D2.3D.4D15.3D4.4D.3D$20.3D6.3D2.3D7.3D3.3D19.3D4.
3D15.3D.3D.2D.3D4.3D.3D2.3D5.3D4.3D2.3D2.3D2.3D15.3D4.3D2.3D30.3A$20.
3D6.3D2.3D7.3D3.3D19.3D4.4D14.3D.3D.2D.3D4.3D.3D2.3D5.3D4.3D2.3D2.3D
2.3D15.3D4.3D2.3D32.A$20.3D6.3D2.3D3.7D3.3D19.3D5.6D11.3D.3D.2D.3D4.
3D2.6D6.3D4.3D2.3D2.3D.4D15.3D4.3D2.3D31.A$20.3D6.3D2.3D2.3D2.3D3.3D
19.3D8.4D10.3D.3D.2D.3D4.3D2.6D6.3D4.3D2.3D2.7D16.3D4.3D2.3D$20.3D6.
3D2.3D.4D2.3D3.3D19.3D9.3D10.3D.3D.2D.3D4.3D2.6D6.3D4.3D2.3D.3D21.3D
4.3D2.3D$21.3D5.3D2.3D2.3D.4D4.3D18.3D4.2D3.3D10.3D.3D.2D2.3D2.3D4.4D
7.3D4.3D2.3D2.3D20.3D4.3D2.3D$21.6D2.3D2.3D2.8D4.6D12.8D3.6D11.3D.3D.
2D3.6D5.4D4.8D2.3D2.3D2.8D12.8D2.3D2.3D$148.4D3.3D$148.3D4.3D$148.4D
2.4D$149.7D6$29.3D9.4D29.3D4.4D46.4D$20.3D6.3D9.4D29.3D4.4D35.3D8.4D$
20.3D6.3D42.3D43.3D$20.3D6.3D42.3D43.3D$18.9D2.7D3.6D5.6D14.7D2.6D4.
8D3.6D5.5D2.9D2.6D5.6D3.7D$20.3D6.4D.3D5.3D4.3D2.3D12.3D2.3D5.3D4.4D.
4D.3D2.3D3.3D2.2D3.3D9.3D4.3D2.3D2.4D.3D$20.3D6.3D2.3D5.3D4.3D17.3D2.
3D5.3D4.3D3.3D.3D2.3D2.3D8.3D9.3D3.3D4.3D.3D2.3D$20.3D6.3D2.3D5.3D4.
4D15.3D3.3D5.3D4.3D6.3D4.3D.3D8.3D9.3D3.3D4.3D.3D2.3D$20.3D6.3D2.3D5.
3D5.6D12.3D3.3D5.3D4.3D6.10D.3D8.3D9.3D3.3D4.3D.3D2.3D$20.3D6.3D2.3D
5.3D8.4D11.3D3.3D5.3D4.3D6.3D8.3D8.3D9.3D3.3D4.3D.3D2.3D$20.3D6.3D2.
3D5.3D9.3D11.3D3.3D5.3D4.3D7.3D7.3D8.3D9.3D3.3D4.3D.3D2.3D$21.3D5.3D
2.3D5.3D4.2D3.3D12.3D.4D5.3D4.3D7.3D7.4D2.2D4.3D8.3D4.3D2.3D2.3D2.3D$
21.6D2.3D2.3D2.8D3.6D14.7D2.8D2.3D8.7D4.5D5.6D2.8D3.6D3.3D2.3D2$169.
3A$171.A$170.A4$7D$3D$D.2D$D2.2D$D3.2D$D4.2D$D5.2D$7.2D$8.2D$9.2D$10.
2D$11.2D$12.2D$13.2D$14.2D$15.2D$16.2D$17.2D$18.2D$19.2D$20.2D$21.2D$
22.2D$23.2D$24.2D95.3A$25.2D96.A$26.2D94.A$27.2D$28.2D$29.2D$30.2D$
31.2D$32.2D$33.2D$34.2D$35.2D$36.2D$37.2D$38.2D$39.2D$40.2D$41.2D$42.
2D$43.2D$44.2D$45.2D$46.2D$47.2D$48.2D$49.2D$50.2D$51.2D$52.2D$53.2D$
54.2D17.3A$55.2D18.A$56.2D16.A$57.2D5$62.2A$62.2A.B$65.2B$65.3B$65.4B
$65.5B$65.6B$65.7B$65.8B$65.9B$66.9B$67.9B$68.9B$69.9B$70.9B$71.9B$
72.9B$73.9B$74.9B$75.9B$76.9B$77.9B$78.9B$79.9B$80.9B$81.9B$82.9B$83.
9B$84.9B$85.9B$86.9B$87.9B$88.9B$89.9B$90.9B$91.9B$92.9B$93.9B$94.9B$
95.9B$96.9B$97.9B$98.9B$99.9B$100.9B$101.9B$102.9B$103.9B$104.9B$105.
9B$106.9B$107.8B$108.7B$109.6B$110.5B$111.4B$112.3B$113.2B!

What I got from your first slmake output posting was a recipe like this:

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x = 233, y = 158, rule = LifeHistory
31.C$30.C.C$30.2C3$26.C39.D$25.C.C37.D.D$25.2C38.2D2C$67.2C2$61.C$60.
C.C$60.2C3$16.C39.C$15.C.C37.C.C$15.2C38.2C8$91.A$90.2A$90.A.A3$.C39.
C$C.C37.C.C$2C38.2C8$31.C$30.C.C$30.2C3$26.C$25.C.C75.2A$25.2C75.2A$
104.A14$30.3E$30.E$31.E13$148.2A$147.2A$149.A18$75.3E$75.E$76.E15$
186.A$185.2A$185.A.A39$231.A$230.2A$230.A.A!

As far as I can see, you were actually asking slmake for the wrong orientation of boat. You don't really want slmake to give you a huge single-channel recipe that produces a boat a huge distance off to the side, starting from nothing but an elbow block. That would mean the slide gun would have to produce the whole single channel recipe, or something equivalent that generates several sideways gliders, as shown above -- and that's going to be hugely expensive, as you say.

Instead, you want the simplest possible recipe that starts with a target block already in place, drops any one-time turner off to the side (perpendicular to the incoming gliders) and moves the target block to the next location on the tape.

Good start with slmake, though!
Keep on asking slmake for things like this, and you'll eventually come up with much better boat recipes -- or eater recipes, or whatever kind of one-time turner turns out to be the cheapest, and also packs well into a diagonal line.

Moosey wrote:Anyways, there's an obvious problem with the single-channel recipes; they're far too expensive. I imagine that with more reasonably-priced FIRE recipes they could be reduced by a lot.

I hope I've answered that concern with my sample PUSH recipe above. See if you can find a PUSH with 20 gliders or less, at least. The slow-salvo PUSH recipes I'm using to fill in are from Paul Chapman's old Glue project, here. Here again, synchronized gliders would probably be a bit cheaper, but it will be a little bit harder to build the shotguns that make them.

Moosey wrote:For some reason, my ideas keep coming back to some variation on this. (Which seems to be the general idea behind this very ship, in my mind.)

I can't make any progress on that idea, because "each gene has more than enough information to build itself" doesn't match anything we know about in real Life. Feel free to invent something like that, of course! But it's not going to show up if you just wave your hands and theorize that it might exist. I wouldn't even really know where to start looking, myself.

Moosey · Post by **Moosey** » July 6th, 2019, 3:11 pm

Well, Golly->Patterns->life->miscellaneous->elbow_ladders.rle has this 1fd +fire

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x = 21, y = 26, rule = B3/S23
20bo$18b2o$19b2o11$5bo$4bo$4b3o$11bo$11bobo$11b2o6$2o$2o!

For our slide gun, I’ll just need a fairly inexpensive >=5fd push reaction.

Post by **dvgrn** » July 6th, 2019, 3:56 pm

Moosey wrote:Well, Golly->Patterns->life->miscellaneous->elbow_ladders.rle has this 1fd +fire
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x = 21, y = 26, rule = B3/S23
20bo$18b2o$19b2o11$5bo$4bo$4b3o$11bo$11bobo$11b2o6$2o$2o!
For our slide gun, I’ll just need a fairly inexpensive >=5fd push reaction.

Okay, there's a four-glider 5fd PUSH

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x = 68, y = 68, rule = LifeHistory
66.2C$66.2C2$60.3A$59.3BA$58.3BA$57.4B$56.4B$55.4B$54.4B2A$53.4BABA$
52.7BA$51.8B$50.8B$49.8B$48.8B$47.8B$46.5B2AB$45.5BABA$2A42.8BA$A.A
40.9B$3.A38.9B$4.A36.9B$5.A34.9B$6.A32.9B$7.A30.9B$8.A28.9B$9.A26.9B$
10.A24.9B$11.A22.9B$12.A20.9B$13.A18.A8B$14.A16.B2A6B$15.A14.BABA5B$
16.A12.9B$17.A10.9B$18.A8.9B$19.A6.9B$20.A4.9B$19.2A3.9B$23.9B$22.9B$
21.9B$20.9B$19.9B$18.9B$17.9B$16.9B3.2A$15.9B4.A.A$14.9B8.A$13.9B10.A
$33.A$34.A$35.A$36.A$37.A$38.A$39.A$40.A$41.A$42.A$43.A$44.A$45.A$46.
A$47.A$48.A$47.2A!

in this illustration I put together for a Gathering 4 Gardner talk last year:

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#C gates

x = 6790, y = 6784, rule = B3/S23

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3343b3o$3345bo$3344bo20$3321b2o$3320bobo$3322bo22$3297b2o$3298b2o$

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$2508b2o$2507bobo21$2485b2o$2486b2o$2485bo25$2458b3o$2460bo$2459bo20$

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2038b2o$2037bobo21$2015b2o$2016b2o$2015bo21$1992b3o$1994bo$1993bo21$

1969b2o$1968bobo$1970bo31$1936b2o$1937b2o$1936bo29$1905b2o$1904bobo$

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1831bobo$1833bo27$1803b2o$1804b2o$1803bo21$1780b3o$1782bo$1781bo20$

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1358bo$1358b2o$1357bobo38$1318b2o$1319b2o$1318bo20$1296bo$1296b2o$

1295bobo26$1268b3o$1270bo$1269bo20$1246b2o$1245bobo$1247bo21$1223bo$

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1139b2o$1138bobo$1140bo21$1116b2o$1117b2o$1116bo20$1094bo$1094b2o$

1093bobo21$1071b2o$1070bobo$1072bo23$1046b2o$1045bobo$1047bo21$1023b3o

$1025bo$1024bo24$997b3o$999bo$998bo21$974bo$974b2o$973bobo21$951b2o$

952b2o$951bo21$928b2o$927bobo$929bo21$905b3o$907bo$906bo20$883b2o$882b

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811bo20$788b2o$787bobo$789bo25$761bo$761b2o$760bobo21$738b2o$737bobo$

739bo21$715bo$715b2o$714bobo21$692b2o$691bobo$693bo31$659b3o$661bo$

660bo20$637bo$637b2o$636bobo21$614b2o$615b2o$614bo35$577b2o$576bobo$

578bo21$554b3o$556bo$555bo20$532bo$532b2o$531bobo22$508b3o$510bo$509bo

36$470b3o$472bo$471bo30$438b3o$440bo$439bo22$414b3o$416bo$415bo27$385b

2o$386b2o$385bo20$363bo$363b2o$362bobo21$340b2o$341b2o$340bo21$317b3o$

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Also there's a 6-glider 7hd push that's really trivial to build a shotgun for, since the gliders are on only two lanes -- can just use three NW31 inserters on each side, or three Fx119 inserters if other salvos have to get past. 7hd might come in handy if we settle on some really cheap turner that's a bit less packable (like the two-blocks turner).

It might turn out to be a good idea to build both the "0" and "1" turners from the same slide gun -- one turner in a diagonal tape to the left of the slide gun, and another turner in a tape to the right. Then a different slide gun would shoot gliders from one side or another, and hit either one turner or the other one.

It's not clear that this is the most efficient design, though. Another option would be to have just a single diagonal tape, and drop either a turner or a stopper at each position -- say a boat for "1" or a block for "0". Then the reader mechanism would have to be just slightly more complicated: it would know to activate Circuit One if a glider comes back from the tape, or Circuit Zero if no glider comes back.

That would mean that the read mechanism would have to be carefully timed -- you couldn't just have a single signal that goes out, gets a bit from the tape, comes back, processes that bit, and then goes out and gets the next bit.

Maybe the shotgun would be programmed to send out the right number of READ+INC salvos and then stop, and another gun would send out ZERO signals (adjusted for the Doppler effect of reading farther and farther out on the tape!) that would be suppressed by ONE signals returning from the tape, but if there's no ONE signal they'd get through.

-- Too many options! Probably you should just pick one option that sounds good, and run with it. It's easy to waste weeks and weeks just trying to decide which design is the most efficient.

Post by **dvgrn** » July 6th, 2019, 4:16 pm

Oops, I gave the wrong link for slow-salvo block moves a couple posts back. That was Paul Chapman's original 2004 block-move table, which only allowed P1 intermediate objects. It's a lot more efficient to allow P2 intermediate objects. Here's the full P2 block-move recipe collection.

dvgrn wrote:That would mean that the read mechanism would have to be carefully timed -- you couldn't just have a single signal that goes out, gets a bit from the tape, comes back, processes that bit, and then goes out and gets the next bit.

Another solution that would allow single-signal execution would be if the FIRE recipe also produces a backwards glider that heads back toward the slide gun to serve as a ZERO signal.

But it probably isn't a good idea to have a single signal retrieving one bit at a time, because that will make construction go slower and slower as time goes on, most likely to the point of making the whole Stable Storage Spaceship pretty annoying to watch. It's perfectly possible to handle the Doppler effect timing problem if it comes to that.

Doing everything with one slide gun would be nice, though. Maybe it's worth thinking about the option of writing all the bits while PUSHing an elbow, and then going into a loop where the elbow is PULLed back toward the slide gun while building a repeating superstructure of one-time splitters. Then when the elbow gets back to zero, a trigger glider burns the whole superstructure to produce the actual construction gliders.

Does any of that make any sense? Anyone have any better ideas? There's usually a radical simplification lurking somewhere, at this stage of any large project...

testitemqlstudop · Post by **testitemqlstudop** » July 7th, 2019, 2:50 am

Crossposting from Catagolue; am not sure about its intristic value.

Uploady II wrote:Well hi, it’s me. These kinds of posts will have to replace comments, at least for now. If you’re wondering how Gemini 2.0 is going, well, it has been prematurely cancelled at the puffer stage, along with a sample destruction for it. That is because of a rather genius idea by, KoffKoff, Me et al. An idea that could truly make single-channel-90 a thing of the past: (Sorry for my sensationalism)

Stable Storage Spaceship Challenge: Winning Entry
We were thinking about how to circumvent the "Stable storage? No more single-channel for you!" problem. Our first idea was unbelievably inefficient and suboptimal. But then, we came up with this:

(0, 0, 0, 0, 0...)hd Madness
TLDR: We thought “Why don’t just combine a whole bunch of these slow glider streams together to get one big one?” And, the rest is history.

So, one idea was to have a whole bunch of these weightship tape readers, turning blocks into gliders, feeding back into a whole bunch of inserters, and making one big stream. But, thst had a few blaring issues with it:

Weightships are orthogonal, and gliders are diagonal! It was still fixable by using weightships instead of gliders for the back-signal.
There wasn’t any tape duplication!. This was still fixable, but only by taking an expensive “second pass”, one of a few ways.
Finally, the worst problem of all: It would be a rake, not a spaceship! The only ways to fix this, at least that we could think of, are all pretty overcomplicated.
We probably missed a few details, but we considered it unworkable, and moved on.

Idea “Stealing” (so we didn’t have to waste out time innovating)
A few ideas later, we came across the idea to copy the methods used by some of the fastest static-tape replicators in engineered CA. That is to have a sliding-head tape reader continuously output signals into the construction and tape duplication parts of the replicator, and therefore avoid quadratic slowdown. This fixes all of the above problems. Yay?

The Nitty Gritty Details (Finally!) (Caveat: Example only. Please make a smaller version. Mine is a real nightmare.)
This thing starts as a body, with a few tapes sticking out of it. Nothing happens, not even oscillation (this is stable), until...

A glider starts a p256 gun, which causes all the tape readers to repeatedly DINCREAD.
The intermittent glider streams from the tape readers, of which there are a shocking 256, get split into two paths:
The first path goes to a whole bunch of tape writers, one for each reader, which do the job of writing a duplicate of the tape. Keep in mind all of the reads are destructive, so the tape isn’t duplicated, it’s just moved.
The second path, well, every one of those paths are combined into one path, in such a way that the first tape means 0 mod 256 gliders, the second 1 mod 256, and so on to 255 mod 256. That one stream can do single channel, 0hd, (0, 0)hd, and so on, as long as the inserters can cope.
You might have noticed that there is no plain p256 gun, just a “core” somewhat similar to the part on the 0E0P metacell with a p256 gun. Well after construction is completed, the whole thing self-destructs, leaving no trace except for a perfect copy of itself, shifted by some distance. The self-destruct mechanism also emits the trigger glider just before it, itself, self-destructs.
And finally, we have a static-tape self-constructing spaceship, nicknamed the Super-slow Shootable Ship for how easy it is to synthesize, and how slow it goes.
Something a little lot more optimized
We could really just get away with two readers, two writers, one core, and one decoder, to do 0hd or 10hd construction, and hugely save on size, cost, slowness, and general lag. Despite losing single-channel features, this will probably be way cheaper for reasonable step sizes, and probably far less laggy for unreasonable ones. It will also be less tedious to assemble.

Details and Further Optimization
Actually, it may be possible to use just 1 tape, which contains 8-bit numbers representing the glider spacings of the pairs in a 0hd or 10hd glider stream, with special values representing, say, a single glider. That still gives you a big toolkit, but with just a single tape. Also, a low-population variant using the spacing between blocks is possible as well, but depending on the interpretation, might be quite inefficient.

Freedom (Conclusion)
Best part is, we no longer have to single-channel everything! We could use more efficient construction methods, like 0hd, 10hd, and even exotic ones, considerably saving on tape length. Dynamic glider tapes might still win for straight-up speed, but here, single channel is no longer the clear winner, or practically any winner at all, opening up the door for something far more interesting...

256PS!
Please use our method unless it’s actually bad, or use a triangular memory region. We wouldn’t be happy if another boring old straight line comes out, and you guys all know what happens if we’re not happy...

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