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Splitting up the forums further

Postby muzik » August 24th, 2016, 11:43 am

Just a proposal for the sake of organization (if you can call my unorthodox ways of thinking organized).

- Conwaylife.com
* Website Discussion
* Bugs and Errors
- Game of Life
* General Discussion
* Still Lifes and Oscillators (close enough to be grouped into one forum I guess)
* Spaceships (felt it might be more convenient if we have seperate threads in here dedicated to searching for/construction of specific types of spaceships, and to move all of the current spaceship topics)
* Guns and Conduits
* Other Patterns (such as puffers, replicators, sawtooths, unit cells, syntheses and so on)
* Scripts
- Other Discussion
* Other Cellular Automata (honestly these usually aren't that related to the game of life, so this shouldn't really be in there)
* The Sandbox
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Re: Splitting up the forums further

Postby biggiemac » August 25th, 2016, 1:24 am

The only change mentioned I agree with is moving OCA to the same header as Sandbox, "Other discussion" seems as good a title as any. I feel like the broad header of "patterns" is fine as it is. The more branched it is, the harder the search feature is to use, since it searches only within a forum. Sometimes there are already issues, for example if I can't remember whether something originally got posted in scripts or patterns when it could reasonably fall in either.
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Re: Splitting up the forums further

Postby muzik » August 25th, 2016, 2:22 am

Righto... how about having Still Lifes and Oscillators, Spaceships, and Guns and Conduits as subforums of Patterns?
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Re: Splitting up the forums further

Postby dvgrn » August 25th, 2016, 9:02 am

muzik wrote:Righto... how about having Still Lifes and Oscillators, Spaceships, and Guns and Conduits as subforums of Patterns?

If there's a way to set it up so that optional tags can be added to message threads, and the Patterns view can be sorted or filtered by tag, then I'd be all for it. Otherwise it seems like a lot more categories would be needed: where would a new thread on *WSS slow salvos go, or where would I put my quadratic-replicator or spiral-growth thread?

I think biggiemac's concern about searching is somewhat valid, but I always use the advanced search instead of the "Search this forum" bar anyway, and that automatically searches all forums and subforums. On the other hand, it's unnecessarily painful to get to -- click "View your posts", then "< Return to advanced search" -- so maybe a good feature request would be to make an "Advanced Search" link always available, even from the main page.

-- Of course phpBB searches are still awful in many other ways, throwing out words if they're "too common" or too short, even if the combination of search words would actually produce a unique result. Whenever I _really_ want to find something on the forums, I use Google:

search terms "maybe in quotes" site:www.conwaylife.com/forums

I do agree that the Patterns forum is a huge miscellaneous mess, and interesting stuff gets lost very easily. Some kind of optional categorization would be great to have, and/or sorting by something other than last-modified date.

Some kind of optional sorted view, maybe, along the lines of the "tags" I suggested, or by total number of responses or views or some other measure of general interestingness? I don't really know what might be available within the phpBB system.
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Re: Splitting up the forums further

Postby muzik » August 25th, 2016, 12:03 pm

dvgrn wrote:
muzik wrote:Righto... how about having Still Lifes and Oscillators, Spaceships, and Guns and Conduits as subforums of Patterns?

If there's a way to set it up so that optional tags can be added to message threads, and the Patterns view can be sorted or filtered by tag, then I'd be all for it. Otherwise it seems like a lot more categories would be needed: where would a new thread on *WSS slow salvos go, or where would I put my quadratic-replicator or spiral-growth thread?

These would come under Other Patterns.

Come to think of it, though, it might be better if we keep Patterns as a postable-in forum, and anything that does not directly relate to my aforementioned categories could go into this main forum. Less unneccesary forums that way.
dvgrn wrote:I think biggiemac's concern about searching is somewhat valid, but I always use the advanced search instead of the "Search this forum" bar anyway, and that automatically searches all forums and subforums. On the other hand, it's unnecessarily painful to get to -- click "View your posts", then "< Return to advanced search" -- so maybe a good feature request would be to make an "Advanced Search" link always available, even from the main page.

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I do agree that the Patterns forum is a huge miscellaneous mess, and interesting stuff gets lost very easily. Some kind of optional categorization would be great to have, and/or sorting by something other than last-modified date.

Some kind of optional sorted view, maybe, along the lines of the "tags" I suggested, or by total number of responses or views or some other measure of general interestingness? I don't really know what might be available within the phpBB system.


Having these subforums kind of eliminates the need for these tags anyway, unless you would use them for slightly more specific terms (e.g. "salvo synthesis", "SSM breeder")

Of course, this is assuming that phpBB supports the addition of subforums, which it probably does.

I agree on the sorting bit as well. Usually, on a lot of sites I go to you can click "views", "replies" etc to automatically bring you to the respective search, but it seems that's not supported.
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Re: Splitting up the forums further

Postby muzik » September 1st, 2016, 8:17 am

So has any of this been taken into consideration?

On a distantly related note, there seems to be a lot of threads that I'm not sure where shouid go. Would "List of rules with X" threads go in OCA or Patterns?
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Re: Splitting up the forums further

Postby Rhombic » September 19th, 2016, 6:40 am

I don't think that this change would greatly benefit the structure of the forums in any noticeable way. This would bring new questions, such as whether Life-like non-totalistic rules deserve a different subforum to differentiate them from Rule Tables, generations, and so on.
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