But how?toroidalet wrote:That is sort of complicated and definitely not what 25p should be. Why not just take 2 soups and AND them? (75p could be created by taking 2 soups and ORing them.)wwei23 wrote:Basically, take a 16x16 soup, and replace each cell with a 16x16 block of cells. Then replace each 16x16 block of cells with the original soup. It was the only way I could get 25p to work.
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I feel like all the extraneous symmetries should be removed (and checks done to inhibit more invalid symmetries) until Adam comes up with a standard algorithm for generating those soups
I feel like all the extraneous symmetries should be removed (and checks done to inhibit more invalid symmetries) until Adam comes up with a standard algorithm for generating those soups
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Run whatever the soup-generating function is called twice, store both soups as arrays with 1s for live cells and 0s for dead, work your way across the arrays (so you're at the same cell in each array and therefore soup) and AND (or OR for a 75%) them into a new array to get a 25% (or 75%) density soup.wwei23 wrote:But how?toroidalet wrote:Why not just take 2 soups and AND them? (75p could be created by taking 2 soups and ORing them.)
What sort of checks would eliminate invalid symmetries?drc wrote:I feel like [...] checks [should be] done to inhibit more invalid symmetries
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If the symmetry name doesn't match one of catagolue's valid symmetries, then it wouldn't go through.toroidalet wrote: What sort of checks would eliminate invalid symmetries?
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Considering you don't have access to the administrative features, you can't really fix it. All I can tell you is to please stop searching non-standard symmetries.wwei23 wrote:So I've ruined Catagolue! How do I fix it then?
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This is an interesting:
https://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xp2_7/b0s
https://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xp2_7/b0s
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Why does the page here:
https://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xp ... s1-e23-aky
not provide a pointer to a pattern file that can be run on Golly?
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https://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xp ... s1-e23-aky
not provide a pointer to a pattern file that can be run on Golly?
Brian Prentice
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Usually when a pattern has appeared a lot, no soups are displayed. Imagine if catagolue provided the full lost of soups that have blinkers!bprentice wrote:Why does the page here:
https://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xp ... s1-e23-aky
not provide a pointer to a pattern file that can be run on Golly?
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https://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xp2_7e/b0smuzik wrote:This is an interesting:
https://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xp2_7/b0s
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I am not interested in soups I simply want an rle file.Saka wrote:Usually when a pattern has appeared a lot, no soups are displayed. Imagine if catagolue provided the full lost of soups that have blinkers!
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I dont think catagolue provides RLEs for patterns but there's always the APGcode to RLE on the scripts request thread in the scripts forum.bprentice wrote:
I am not interested in soups I simply want an rle file.
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Precisely. The most important items in a catalogue of patterns are the rle files.Saka wrote:I dont think catagolue provides RLEs for patterns ...
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(It's Catagolue) Usually people just run the soups in Golly and get the RLE by copy/pasting the result of the soup.bprentice wrote:
Precisely. The most important items in a catalogue of patterns are the rle files.
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Is there anything wrong with this? You could also ask Calcyman to provide an RLE link on every object page.
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That is what I am doing by highlighting this omission on the 'Oddities' thread. I hope this ends this discussion.Saka wrote:You could also ask Calcyman to provide an RLE link on every object page.
Brian Prentice
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Perhaps it would be more convenient if Golly were to read apgcodes as rles when pasted in?
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Did you mean pattern?muzik wrote:Perhaps it would be more convenient if Golly were to read apgcodes as rules* when pasted in?
1 problem: APGcode doesn't show the rule. Or does the rule not change and only the pattern is pasted?
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Assumedly so, since this is what happens with rles without the special header.Saka wrote:Or does the rule not change and only the pattern is pasted?
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This would indeed be very useful to have.bprentice wrote:I am not interested in soups I simply want an rle file.
In the meantime, if you're using Opera, this is one of the things the inofficial browser extension does:
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I tried this script and found an rle file on the clipboard with the correct pattern and incorrect rule name. After transferring the file to my editor, correcting the rule name and pasting the result back into Golly it worked. This is not a useful solution.Saka wrote:... but there's always the APGcode to RLE on the scripts request thread in the scripts forum.
When making such a suggestion in the future please point to the relevant posting in the forum so that the reader does not need to search for it.
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I downloaded Opera together with your extension and it works beautifully. Thank you.Apple Bottom wrote:In the meantime, if you're using Opera, this is one of the things the unofficial browser extension does:
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I'm not sure -- I'll have to take a look at it. No time right now, but I should get around to it tomorrow.Rhombic wrote:What
https://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xp1001_0/b2e3-as23
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It gets worse.A for awesome wrote:I'm not sure -- I'll have to take a look at it. No time right now, but I should get around to it tomorrow.Rhombic wrote:What
https://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xp1001_0/b2e3-as23
EDIT: One offending haul.
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Also pretty bad.drc wrote:It gets worse.
(I think what happens is if the period is over 1000 it doesn't try to label it, because periods >(≥?)1000 are PATHOLOGICAL)
EDIT: invalid characters in rulenames
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