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Pufferfish and companions

Postby codeholic » December 27th, 2014, 7:56 pm

dvgrn wrote:Similarly, does anyone see any hope of getting that wick to burn? There's a way to hit it with a glider that generates a new glider to continue on the other side, but generally it seems painfully non-flammable.

I've found a non-trivial fuse (i. e. not a spaceship flying along) for pufferfish's exhaust:
x = 18, y = 27, rule = B3/S23
3bo7bo$2b3o5b3o$b2o2bo3bo2b2o$3b3o3b3o2$4bo5bo$2bo2bo3bo2bo$o5bobo5bo$
2o4bobo4b2o$6bobo$3bobo3bobo$4bo5bo5$4b2o3b2o$4b2o3b2o4$15bo$4b2o3b2o
3b3o$4b2o3b2o2bo2b2o$13bo3bo$17bo$16bo!

Two pufferfish with four tagalongs produce the first extensible c/2 spaceship that has no p2 or p4 parts:
x = 53, y = 37, rule = B3/S23
8bo7bo18bo7bo$7b3o5b3o16b3o5b3o$6b2o2bo3bo2b2o14bo2b2o3b2o2bo$6bo2bo5b
o2bo$5b2o3b2ob2o3b2o$6bobob2ob2obobo13bo3b2o3b2o3bo$7bo9bo13bo2b2o2bob
o2b2o2bo$8bo2bobo2bo15bobo3bobo3bobo$35b3o3b3o$5b2o2b2o3b2o2b2o16bo5bo
$5b2o11b2o2$9bo5bo17bo11bo$9b2o3b2o17bo11bo2$20bo10bo4b2o3b2o$4bo14b3o
8b3o3b2o3b2o4bo$3b3o12bo2b2o6bo2b2o12b3o$2bo2b2o2b2o3b2o2b3o2bo5b2o3bo
10bo2b2o$2b2o5b2o3b2o5bobo6b2o2bo10b2o$bo19bo2bo9bo8bo2bo$b3o18b2o6bo
4bobo3b2o$22b2o5bo7bo3b7o$29bo6bo11b2ob2o$30b2ob3o12bob3o$18bo10bo19b
3o$17bo2bo$2bo15bobo$bobo$o3bo43b3o$o3bo43bobo$bobo$2bo3$48bobo$48b3o!

And here is a p36 rake:
x = 79, y = 90, rule = B3/S23
61bo7bo$60b3o5b3o$59bo2b2o3b2o2bo3$58bo3b2o3b2o3bo$57bo2b2o2bobo2b2o2b
o$58bobo3bobo3bobo$61b3o3b3o$62bo5bo3$36bo7bo14bo11bo$35b3o5b3o13bo11b
o$34bo2b2o3b2o2bo$34bo3bo3bo3bo10bo4b2o3b2o$35b2ob2ob2ob2o10b3o3b2o3b
2o4bo$35b2obo3bob2o9bo2b2o12b3o$37bo5bo11b2o3bo10bo2b2o$38b2ob2o13b2o
2bo10b2o$33b2o2bo5bo2b2o12bo8bo2bo$33b2o2bo5bo2b2o8bo4bobo3b2o$55bo7bo
3b7o$37bobobobo11bo6bo11b2ob2o$37b2o3b2o12b2ob3o12bob3o$55bo19b3o2$48b
o$32bo14b3o$31b3o3b2o3b2o2b2o2bo23b3o$30b2o2bo2b2o3b2o5b2o23bobo$30bo
3bo16bo$30bo18b3o$31bo$34bobo$34bo10bo28bobo$47bo26b3o$35bo9bo2bo$30bo
16bo$30bo15bo$30bo$30bo$30bo$30bo3$51b2o$51b2o6$6b3o5b3o16b3o5b3o$6bo
2bo3bo2bo15bo2bo5bo2bo$5bo3bo3bo3bo14bo3bo3bo3bo$5bobo7bobo$5bobob2ob
2obobo13bo4bo3bo4bo$6bo2b2ob2o2bo13bobob2obobob2obobo$7b2obobob2o14bo
3b2obobob2o3bo$8b2o3b2o20b2o3b2o$4b2o2bo5bo2b2o$4b2o11b2o12bo2bo7bo2bo
$9bo3bo$8bo5bo18bo9bo7b2o$8b2o3b2o16b2o11b2o5b2o2$35b2o3b2o$18b3o8b3o
3b2o3b2o$2b3o12bo2bo7bo2bo13b3o$bo2bo3b2o3b2o2b2o2bo6bo3bo11bo2bo$bo3b
o2b2o3b2o5b3o6b4o11b2obo$2o20bo8b2o$b2o18b2o10bo$21bo11bo8b3o$6bo26bo
9b2o4b2o$6bo21b2o2b2o8b4o2b3o$17bo9bo4b2o14bo$17b3o27b2o$17b2o27b2o$3o
42bo$3o43bo$3o$3o37bobo$40bobo$34bo5bo$33b3o4b2o2$34bobo3bo$34b3o2b2o!
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Re: Pufferfish and companions

Postby codeholic » December 27th, 2014, 8:19 pm

Ah, I forgot to mention, I found the tagalong by soup search, so it can also be considered almost natural ;)

Here are some soups that produce it:
x = 15, y = 75, rule = B3/S23
4b2o3b2o$4b2o3b2o5$4b2o3b2o$4b2o3b2o5$4b2o3b2o$4b2o3b2o5$4b2o3b2o$4b2o
3b2o5$4b2o3b2o$4b2o3b2o5$4b2o3b2o$4b2o3b2o5$4b2o3b2o$4b2o3b2o5$4b2o3b
2o$4b2o3b2o5$4b2o3b2o$4b2o3b2o5$4b2o3b2o$4b2o3b2o5$2o3b2o3b5o$3b3o2b2o
bo$b4ob3o3bobo$ob2o5bob4o$2obob2obob2ob2o$2o2bo2bob2ob2o$ob3o2b5ob2o$o
bobob3obo$2ob4ob2ob2o$5o2b4ob3o$bob2o2bo2b4o$bo2bob3ob2o2bo$2bobob4o$b
o2bo5b2ob2o$bo3b3o4bobo!

x = 15, y = 75, rule = B3/S23
4b2o3b2o$4b2o3b2o5$4b2o3b2o$4b2o3b2o5$4b2o3b2o$4b2o3b2o5$4b2o3b2o$4b2o
3b2o5$4b2o3b2o$4b2o3b2o5$4b2o3b2o$4b2o3b2o5$4b2o3b2o$4b2o3b2o5$4b2o3b
2o$4b2o3b2o5$4b2o3b2o$4b2o3b2o5$4b2o3b2o$4b2o3b2o5$3bo2bo2bo4bo$bobo3b
o2b4o$b2o3b3ob3o$4bo2b2ob2obo$2b4o7bo$bob2ob2o2b5o$2o3b2o2b3o$7b6o$5o
4bobobo$ob4obo2bo2b2o$bo3bobo2bobo$b4o3b3ob2o$bobo2bo$3b2obob4o$o3bob
3ob3o!

x = 15, y = 75, rule = B3/S23
4b2o3b2o$4b2o3b2o5$4b2o3b2o$4b2o3b2o5$4b2o3b2o$4b2o3b2o5$4b2o3b2o$4b2o
3b2o5$4b2o3b2o$4b2o3b2o5$4b2o3b2o$4b2o3b2o5$4b2o3b2o$4b2o3b2o5$4b2o3b
2o$4b2o3b2o5$4b2o3b2o$4b2o3b2o5$4b2o3b2o$4b2o3b2o5$b10obo$2bob2o3bo$3o
bob3o3b2o$ob2o3b4obobo$bo3b2obo3b2o$obobob4o2bo$o2b5obo$o2b2o2b3obo2bo
$3ob3ob2o2b3o$ob2ob2ob4obo$ob3ob2ob4o$2obobob3o2b2o$7ob4ob2o$3o2bob5ob
2o$3b3o2b2ob3o!
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Re: Pufferfish and companions

Postby flipper77 » December 28th, 2014, 5:52 am

Congrats on your finds, they're quite interesting, as well as your use of the new fuse. I'll check for symmetrical-type fuses, and I'll hopefully come up with something, since I haven't had much use to run apgsearch in the last few days.
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Re: Pufferfish and companions

Postby codeholic » December 28th, 2014, 6:06 am

If you want to run the same search, you can use a simple script I wrote for finding fuses:
import golly as g

BIBLOCK = g.parse('2o3b2o$2o3b2o!')

def patterns_identical(cells1, cells2):
  if len(cells1) != len(cells2):
    return False
  return set(zip(cells1[::2], cells1[1::2])) == set(zip(cells2[::2], cells2[1::2]))

g.setalgo('HashLife')

for i in range(0, 100):
  g.putcells(BIBLOCK, 0, -i * 6)

cells = g.getcells([0, -594, 7, 2])

count, found = 0, 0

while True:
  if count % 100 == 0:
    g.show('count: ' + str(count) + ' found: ' + str(found))

  g.select([-4, 0, 15, 15])
  g.randfill(50)

  g.run(4096)

  test = g.getcells([0, -594, 7, 2])
  g.reset()

  if not patterns_identical(test, cells):
    g.save(str(count) + '.rle', 'rle')
    found += 1

  count += 1
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Re: Pufferfish and companions

Postby simsim314 » December 28th, 2014, 7:03 am

Just a small note: I find it's generally faster (and more stable) to use new(..) instead of reset(). And I think that it's documented that using step() is much faster than run().
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Re: Pufferfish and companions

Postby HartmutHolzwart » December 28th, 2014, 8:51 am

your script fails to create a file when I run it. What could be the reason?
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Re: Pufferfish and companions

Postby codeholic » December 28th, 2014, 8:56 am

Probably Golly doesn't have write permissions to the directory where the script is located. You can change the line with "g.save" to fix it, add a relative directory to the filename and set write permissions for this directory (in your filesystem), e. g.:
g.save('out/' + str(count) + '.rle', 'rle')
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Re: Pufferfish and companions

Postby HartmutHolzwart » December 28th, 2014, 9:46 am

is thre a standard way to save to the current directory of Golly?
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Re: Pufferfish and companions

Postby simsim314 » December 28th, 2014, 10:30 am

There is g.getdir(...) function that has a nice list of built-in libraries, that golly has access to.

See here.
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Re: Pufferfish and companions

Postby HartmutHolzwart » December 28th, 2014, 11:06 am

must be something different!

can't create temporary file...

anything fishy with my python installation?
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Re: Pufferfish and companions

Postby HartmutHolzwart » December 29th, 2014, 1:44 pm

Unrelated question:

How would I modify your script to find other fueses? E.g reproduce the wellknown 2c/3 blinker fuses? The straight forward change of the fuse does nont seem to lead to results...

It does, if you compare the right area!
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Re: Pufferfish and companions

Postby dvgrn » December 29th, 2014, 3:16 pm

HartmutHolzwart wrote:must be something different!

can't create temporary file...

anything fishy with my python installation?

Possibly, but not necessarily -- did you solve this problem? If you post the exact line of code that caused the "can't create temporary file..." error, it would help with the diagnosis.

Alternatively, what happens if you write to a location that the operating system generally guarantees to be writable? Here's an OS-independent version of the script that writes to a FuseFinder subfolder in Golly's data directory (I think it should still work the same otherwise, but haven't actually had it save a fuse yet, except in tests where I reverse the logic):

# codeholic's FuseFinder script v1.03
#   Creates a new layer called "FuseTestLayer"
#   Writes to a FuseFinder subfolder in Golly's data directory.
#   Updates screen every hundred trials (why not?)
#   Uses g.new() as per simsim314's suggestion
#      (I noticed that Golly's Undo got very slow after running the old script) (?)
#   Re-added g.reset() as per Hartmut Holzwart's note

import golly as g
import os

outpath=os.path.join(g.getdir("data"),"FuseFinder")
if not os.path.isdir(outpath): os.mkdir(outpath)

BIBLOCK = g.parse('2o3b2o$2o3b2o!')

def patterns_identical(cells1, cells2):
  if len(cells1) != len(cells2):
    return False
  return set(zip(cells1[::2], cells1[1::2])) == set(zip(cells2[::2], cells2[1::2]))

for i in range(g.numlayers()):
  if g.getname(i)=="FuseTestLayer":
    break
if not g.getname(i)=="FuseTestLayer":  g.addlayer()
g.setalgo('HashLife')
for i in range(0, 100):
  g.putcells(BIBLOCK, 0, -i * 6)
allcells=g.getcells(g.getrect())
cells = g.getcells([0, -594, 7, 2])

count, found = 0, 0

while True:
  g.new("FuseTestLayer")
  g.putcells(allcells)
  g.select([-4, 0, 15, 15])
  g.randfill(50)
  g.fit()
  g.run(4096)

  if count % 100 == 0:
    g.show('count: ' + str(count) + ' found: ' + str(found))
    g.update()
 
  test = g.getcells([0, -594, 7, 2])

  if not patterns_identical(test, cells):
    g.reset()
    g.save(os.path.join(outpath,str(count) + '.rle'), 'rle')
    g.show("Saved fuse to " + outpath + str(count)+".rle")
    found += 1

  count += 1

Might be interesting to see if any of the output of a pufferfish plus two companions happens to be reburnable, especially the singleton p36 block puffers, which I see are what the new spaceship is made out of. I'm guessing all likely combinations of two of these have been checked with gencols, to see if there's a smaller p36 rake?

x = 552, y = 885, rule = B3/S23
8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o193b2o3b2o$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b
2o93b2o3b2o193b2o3b2o5$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o193b2o3b2o$
8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o193b2o3b2o5$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o
3b2o93b2o3b2o193b2o3b2o$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o193b2o3b2o
5$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o193b2o3b2o$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o
3b2o93b2o3b2o193b2o3b2o5$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o193b2o3b2o
$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o193b2o3b2o5$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o
3b2o93b2o3b2o193b2o3b2o$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o193b2o3b2o
5$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o193b2o3b2o$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o
3b2o93b2o3b2o193b2o3b2o5$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o193b2o3b2o
$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o193b2o3b2o5$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o
3b2o93b2o3b2o193b2o3b2o$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o193b2o3b2o
5$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o193b2o3b2o$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o
3b2o93b2o3b2o193b2o3b2o5$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o193b2o3b2o
$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o193b2o3b2o5$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o
3b2o93b2o3b2o193b2o3b2o$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o193b2o3b2o
5$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o193b2o3b2o$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o
3b2o93b2o3b2o193b2o3b2o5$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o193b2o3b2o
$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o193b2o3b2o5$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o
3b2o93b2o3b2o193b2o3b2o$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o193b2o3b2o
5$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o193b2o3b2o$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o
3b2o93b2o3b2o193b2o3b2o5$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o193b2o3b2o
$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o193b2o3b2o5$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o
3b2o93b2o3b2o193b2o3b2o$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o193b2o3b2o
5$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o193b2o3b2o$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o
3b2o93b2o3b2o193b2o3b2o5$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o193b2o3b2o
$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o193b2o3b2o5$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o
3b2o93b2o3b2o193b2o3b2o$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o193b2o3b2o
5$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o193b2o3b2o$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o
3b2o93b2o3b2o193b2o3b2o5$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o193b2o3b2o
$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o193b2o3b2o5$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o
3b2o93b2o3b2o193b2o3b2o$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o193b2o3b2o
5$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o193b2o3b2o$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o
3b2o93b2o3b2o193b2o3b2o5$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o193b2o3b2o
$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o193b2o3b2o5$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o
3b2o93b2o3b2o193b2o3b2o$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o193b2o3b2o
5$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o193b2o3b2o$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o
3b2o93b2o3b2o193b2o3b2o5$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o193b2o3b2o
$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o193b2o3b2o5$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o
3b2o93b2o3b2o193b2o3b2o$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o193b2o3b2o
5$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o193b2o3b2o$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o
3b2o93b2o3b2o193b2o3b2o5$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o193b2o3b2o
$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o193b2o3b2o5$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o
3b2o93b2o3b2o193b2o3b2o$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o193b2o3b2o
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2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o176bo$490bobo$489b2ob2o$490bo2bo$490b
2ob2o$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o176bobo$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b
2o3b2o93b2o3b2o177bo4bobobobo$497bo5bo6bo$497bobobobo5bobo$508b2ob2o$
509bo$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o
93b2o3b2o193b2o$493b2o$493b2o3$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o$8b
2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o$494b3o2$506b2ob2o$509bobo$8b2o3b2o
93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o191b2obo2bo$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o
3b2o168b3o24b2o$483b3o30bo7bo$482bo3b2o27bobo2bo3bo$481bo2bo12bo2bo18b
o5bo$485bo2bo7bo12bo10bo2b2o$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o166bo
3bo2bo7bo4bo6bo13b3o$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o168b2o2bo8b6o
5b2o3b3o$484b2obob2o16b2ob2o$484bob2o2bo18b2o$482b3o3bo$482bobo2b2obob
o30bo$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o166bo2bo2b2o34b2o$8b2o3b2o93b
2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o167bo2bo7bo30bo$482bo2bo2bo3bo32b2o$484b2o3b3o
34b2o$521bo3b2o$521b2o$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o$8b2o3b2o93b
2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o$496b2o$496b2o3$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b
2o3b2o$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o$488b3o$496b2o$487bo8bobo$
487bo3bo4bobo$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o176bo4b3o$8b2o3b2o93b
2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o176bo5bo$491bo4bobo$486b2o3bo6b3o$487bo2bo7b3o
$488b2o$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o
93b2o3b2o$513bo3b3o$494b2o4bo4b2o2bo2bobo2b2obo$482b5o17b4o5bo5b3o2b4o
$481bo4b2o13bo4bo6bo6b3obo3bo$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o171b
2o14b6ob2obo4b2ob2o2bo4bobo$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o189b4ob
o8bobo4bo4b3o$483bobo15bo4bo4bobo5bo5bo8bo$483bo16bobo8b3o12bobobo4bo$
500b2o24bo8bo$492b2o10b2o25b2ob2o$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o
175b5o10bobo17b3o4b2o$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o180b2o9bo9bo$
490bo2bobo2bo16bobo$491bobob2o2b2obobo11b2o$496bobob2o2bo$496b3ob2o29b
3o$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o180bob2o2b2o27bo3bo$8b2o3b2o93b
2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o179bo5bo29bo3bo14bo$494bobo33bo3bo14bobo$496bo
10bo23b3o4b2o9b3o$505b2o7b2o12bo9b2o11bo$506b2o6b2obo9b3o$8b2o3b2o93b
2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o199bobo9b5o$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b
2o196b2o12b2o3b2o$503bo8b2o12b5o$483bo19b2o9bo12b3o$482bobo17bobo7b6o
10bo$475b2o5bobo27b2o3bo$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o160b2o6bo
30bob2o10bo$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o173b2o25bo12bo$486bob2o
6b2o30bo$485bo4bo4bobo$485b2o3bo4bo2bo$486bo3bo5b2o$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o
93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o175bo6bo10bo17bo17bo$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o
3b2o172bo20bo16bobo15b2o$488bobo17bo16bo2bo14bobo$487bo2bo35b2o10bo4b
2o2bo$487b2obo6b4o37bo4b3obo$485bob2o7bo2b3o36bo4b2o2bo$8b2o3b2o93b2o
3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o171bo9bo5bobo17b2o19bobo$8b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o93b2o
3b2o93b2o3b2o182bo7bo8bo7b2o19b2o$2b3o493b4o3bo8bobo18bo8bo$2bo2bo297b
o182b2o12bo3bo11bo17bob2o$2bo16bo83bo15bo82b3o14bo82b3o14bo165bob2o7b
2o17b2o17bob2o$2bo2bo12b3o81b3o13b3o81bo2bo12b3o80b2o2bo12b3o163b2obo
8b2o17bo19bo2bo$2bo2bo7bobob2obo81bob2obobo3bobob2obo81bo2bo7bobob2obo
80b2o2bo7bobob2obo164b2o19bo8b2o18bo2bo$bobo15bo83bo15bo82b2ob2obo10bo
82b2ob3o11bo186bo4b3o22bobo$bo3bo7bo3bobo83bobo3bo3bo3bobo83bo2bo6bo3b
obo93bo3bobo174bo11bo4b2ob2obo$b2o12b2o2b2o81b2o2b2o7b2o2b2o81b2ob2o8b
2o2b2o81b2o11b2o2b2o172bobo19b2o6b2o$2b2o5bo8bo2bo79bo2bo13bo2bo82b5o
9bo2bo80bo4bo10bo2bo172b2o16bo10b2o$9b2o2bobo2b2o83b2o2bobo3bobo2b2o
82bo2bo7bobo2b2o87b3o3bobo2b2o191b2o10bo$9bobobobo2b2o3bo75bo3b2o2bobo
3bobo2b2o3bo78bobo4b2o2bobo2b2o3bo78bo6b2o2bobo2b2o3bo$o7b2obo8bo2bo
75bo2bo7bobo7bo2bo74b2ob2o6b2obo7bo2bo74b2o11b2o7bo2bo200b2o17b3o$2o5b
ob2ob2obo4bob2o75b2obo4bobo3bobo4bob2o75b2ob2o4b3o2bobo4bob2o83b2obo2b
obo4bob2o172b2o24b3o18bo$3o4bob2o2bo6bobo77bobo6bo3bo6bobo76b2ob2o2b2o
5bo6bobo76bo7b3o3bo6bobo173b2o24b3o19bo$b3o4bo6b2o3b2o79b2o3b2o7b2o3b
2o79b2o12b2o3b2o78b4o11b2o3b2o5$501bo$499b2ob2o2$498bo4bo$502bo3b2o13b
3o$495b2o2b3o3bobo$495b2o7b2o$505b2o2b2o8b2o3b2o$491b2o16b2o8b2o3b2o$
491b2o$495b2o$495bo!
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Re: Pufferfish and companions

Postby glider_rider » December 29th, 2014, 3:25 pm

Here are several smaller P36 rakes:

x = 404, y = 88, rule = B3/S23
219bo7bo152bo7bo$218b3o5b3o71bo7bo70b3o5b3o$124b3o5b3o82bo2b2o3b2o2bo
69b3o5b3o68bo2b2o3b2o2bo$123bo2bo5bo2bo84b2o3b2o71bo2b2o3b2o2bo70b2o3b
2o$123bo3bo3bo3bo80b2o4bobo4b2o70b2o3b2o69b2o4bobo4b2o$126bobobobo83b
2o2bobobobo2b2o66b2o4bobo4b2o65b2o2bobobobo2b2o$122b2o4bobo4b2o79bo13b
o66b2o2bobobobo2b2o65bo13bo$35b3o5b3o76b2o2b3ob3o2b2o80b3o2bobo2b3o67b
o13bo66b3o2bobo2b3o$34bo2bo5bo2bo77b5ob5o87bobo73b3o2bobo2b3o72bobo$
34bo3bo3bo3bo256bobo$37bobobobo82b2o3b2o83b2o11b2o146b2o11b2o$33b2o4bo
bo4b2o74b2o11b2o79b2o11b2o66b2o11b2o65b2o11b2o$33b2o2b3ob3o2b2o74b2o
11b2o160b2o11b2o$35b5ob5o174b2o3b2o154b2o3b2o$126b2o3b2o87b2o3b2o74b2o
3b2o73b2o3b2o$37b2o3b2o82b2o3b2o82bo85b2o3b2o68bo$33b2o11b2o166b3o14bo
64bo78b3o14bo$33b2o11b2o72b3o90bo2b2o12b3o62b3o14bo61bo2b2o12b3o$119bo
2bo13b3o73b4obo11bo2b2o60bo2b2o12b3o59b4obo11bo2b2o$37b2o3b2o75bo3bo
11bo2bo72b2ob2obo2b2o3b2o2b3o2bo58b4obo11bo2b2o57b2ob2obo2b2o3b2o2b3o
2bo$37b2o3b2o74bo2b3o2b2o3b2o2b2o2bo71b2obob2o2b2o3b2o5bobo57b2ob2obo
2b2o3b2o2b3o2bo56b2obob2o2b2o3b2o5bobo$117b2obobo3b2o3b2o5b3o69b2o2bo
17bo2bo56b2obob2o2b2o3b2o5bobo55b2o2bo17bo2bo$31b3o83bo2bo19bo70bo2bo
18b2o56b2o2bo17bo2bo55bo2bo18b2o$30bo2bo13b3o67bo2bo18b2o71b2o19b2o57b
o2bo18b2o57b2o19b2o$30bo3bo11bo2bo68b2o19bo153b2o19b2o$29bo2b3o2b2o3b
2o2b2o2bo$28b2obobo3b2o3b2o5b3o$28bo2bo19bo165bo160bo$28bo2bo18b2o71b
2o92bo14b3o63bo79bo14b3o$29b2o19bo71bo16bo52bo7bo30bo3bo62bo14b3o37bo
7bo30bo3bo$138b3o50b3o5b3o71bo7bo30bo3bo35b3o5b3o$97b3o5b3o29b2ob2o48b
2obo5bob2o69b3o5b3o68b2obo5bob2o$97bo2bo3bo2bo29b2ob2o49b2obo3bob2o29b
o3bo35b2obo5bob2o68b2obo3bob2o29bo3bo$34b2o61bo9bo30b3o48bob2o7b2obo
28b3o37b2obo3bob2o29bo3bo33bob2o7b2obo28b3o$33bo16bo44b2o2bobobobo2b2o
29bo48bobo2bobobobo2bobo65bob2o7b2obo28b3o33bobo2bobobobo2bobo$49b3o
43b2o2bobobobo2b2o78bobo3b2ob2o3bobo64bobo2bobobobo2bobo63bobo3b2ob2o
3bobo$8b3o5b3o29b2ob2o41bo5bo3bo5bo78b3obo5bob3o7b2o56bobo3b2ob2o3bobo
64b3obo5bob3o7b2o$8bo2bo3bo2bo29b2ob2o42bo2bobo3bobo2bo7b2o71b3o7b3o8b
2o57b3obo5bob3o7b2o57b3o7b3o8b2o$8bo9bo30b3o44b2o9b2o8b2o71b2o9b2o68b
3o7b3o8b2o57b2o9b2o$6b2o2bobobobo2b2o29bo46bo9bo82bo11bo68b2o9b2o67bo
11bo$6b2o2bobobobo2b2o168b2o11b2o67bo11bo66b2o11b2o$5bo5bo3bo5bo73b2o
11b2o79b2o11b2o66b2o11b2o65b2o11b2o$6bo2bobo3bobo2bo7b2o65b2o11b2o160b
2o11b2o102bo7bo$7b2o9b2o8b2o102bo7bo52b2o3b2o107bo7bo38b2o3b2o25b3o5b
3o$8bo9bo80b2o3b2o25b3o5b3o51b2o3b2o4bo21bo7bo39b2o3b2o25b3o5b3o37b2o
3b2o4bo19b2obo5bob2o$99b2o3b2o24b2obo5bob2o45bo14b3o19b3o5b3o38b2o3b2o
4bo19b2obo5bob2o31bo14b3o19b2obo3bob2o$6b2o11b2o88b3o19b2obo3bob2o45b
3o13bob2o17b2obo5bob2o32bo14b3o19b2obo3bob2o31b3o13bob2o16bob2o7b2obo$
6b2o11b2o72b3o12bo2bo17bob2o7b2obo43bob2o13b3o18b2obo3bob2o32b3o13bob
2o16bob2o7b2obo29bob2o13b3o15bobo2bobobobo2bobo$92bo2bo15bo16bobo2bobo
bobo2bobo44b2o13b3o16bob2o7b2obo30bob2o13b3o15bobo2bobobobo2bobo30b2o
13b3o15bobo3b2ob2o3bobo$10b2o3b2o79bo11bo2bo16bobo3b2ob2o3bobo42b2o14b
4o15bobo2bobobobo2bobo31b2o13b3o15bobo3b2ob2o3bobo28b2o14b4o16b3obo5bo
b3o$10b2o3b2o79bo11bo2bo17b3obo5bob3o43b2o2bo11bo2bo15bobo3b2ob2o3bobo
29b2o14b4o16b3obo5bob3o29b2o2bo11bo2bo17b3o7b3o$20b3o20bo7bo40b6o12bob
o17b3o7b3o43bo4bo14b2o15b3obo5bob3o30b2o2bo11bo2bo17b3o7b3o29bo4bo14b
2o16b2o9b2o$4b3o12bo2bo19b3o5b3o42bobo10bo3bo17b2o9b2o44bobo2bo11bobo
17b3o7b3o30bo4bo14b2o16b2o9b2o30bobo2bo11bobo17bo11bo$3bo2bo15bo18b2ob
o5bob2o39b2o16b2o17bo11bo44b2o3b2o10b3o17b2o9b2o31bobo2bo11bobo17bo11b
o30b2o3b2o10b3o16b2o11b2o$7bo11bo2bo19b2obo3bob2o40b2o3b2o10b2o17b2o
11b2o50bo29bo11bo31b2o3b2o10b3o16b2o11b2o36bo28b2o11b2o$7bo11bo2bo17bo
b2o7b2obo43b2o29b2o11b2o48b2o4bo24b2o11b2o37bo28b2o11b2o34b2o4bo$3b6o
12bobo15bobo2bobobobo2bobo43bo16b2o76b6o6bob2o13b2o11b2o35b2o4bo75b6o
6bob2o17b2o3b2o$6bobo10bo3bo15bobo3b2ob2o3bobo44b2ob3o7b2o18b2o3b2o44b
3o7bobobobo4bo3bo65b6o6bob2o17b2o3b2o30b3o7bobobobo4bo3bo12bo4b2o3b2o$
4b2o16b2o16b3obo5bob3o34b2o7bobobo3bo5b3o13bo4b2o3b2o47bo9bo2bo3bo3bo
18b2o3b2o31b3o7bobobobo4bo3bo12bo4b2o3b2o33bo9bo2bo3bo3bo12b3o14bo$4b
2o3b2o10b2o18b3o7b3o37b3o4bobobo3bo4b4o12b3o14bo43bo10bo4bo17bo4b2o3b
2o34bo9bo2bo3bo3bo12b3o14bo29bo10bo4bo15b2o2bo12b3o$9b2o30b2o9b2o37b3o
10b2o4b3o13b2o2bo12b3o39bobo17bo15b3o14bo30bo10bo4bo15b2o2bo12b3o25bob
o17bo16b3o11b2o2bo$10bo16b2o12bo11bo38b2o34b3o11b2o2bo73b2o2bo12b3o26b
obo17bo16b3o11b2o2bo$11b2ob3o7b2o14b2o11b2o167b3o11b2o2bo145bo$2o7bobo
bo3bo5b3o14b2o11b2o76bo174bo78bobo8bo$2b3o4bobobo3bo4b4o104bobo8bo83bo
79bobo8bo62bobo12bob2obo2b2o$2b3o10b2o4b3o20b2o3b2o73bobo12bob2obo2b2o
75bobo8bo63bobo12bob2obo2b2o55bobo2bo2bo7bo6bo$3b2o34bo4b2o3b2o73bobo
2bo2bo7bo6bo70bobo12bob2obo2b2o56bobo2bo2bo7bo6bo58bo3b2o11bo2bo$38b3o
14bo70bo3b2o11bo2bo71bobo2bo2bo7bo6bo59bo3b2o11bo2bo78bo$37b2o2bo12b3o
88bo74bo3b2o11bo2bo79bo78b2o$39b3o11b2o2bo86b2o93bo79b2o78bo$113bo30bo
61b3o29b2o79bo47b3o12bo10bobo2bobo$42bo69bo2bo11bo10bobo2bobo64b2o26bo
48b3o12bo10bobo2bobo50b2o8bobo9bobo$41bobo8bo60bo3bo8bobo9bobo70b3o7bo
10bobo2bobo51b2o8bobo9bobo56b3o$35bobo12bob2obo2b2o57b3o94bo5bobo9bobo
57b3o80bo3bo5bo7b3o$35bobo2bo2bo7bo6bo55bo5bo3bo5bo7b3o67bob2o3b2o78bo
3bo5bo7b3o53bob2o3b2ob2obob3obo4b2o$24bo12bo3b2o11bo2bo59b3obo2b2obob
3obo4b2o69b2o4b2obo5bo7b3o54bob2o3b2ob2obob3obo4b2o55b2o4b2o9bo7bo$23b
o2bo29bo57b3ob2ob2o9bo7bo68bo5b2ob2obob3obo4b2o56b2o4b2o9bo7bo54bo5b2o
9bo4bo$24bo3bo26b2o62bobo10bo4bo75b2o11bo7bo55bo5b2o9bo4bo61b2o11b2o4b
o$28b3o24bo63b2o11b2o4bo87bo4bo62b2o11b2o4bo74b2o2b2o$25bo5bo6bo10bobo
2bobo76b2o2b2o87b2o4bo75b2o2b2o$28b3obo4bobo9bobo175b2o2b2o$25b3ob2ob
2o$30bobo2bo5bo7b3o$30b2o3b2obob3obo4b2o$43bo7bo$43bo4bo$43b2o4bo$44b
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Re: Pufferfish and companions

Postby dvgrn » December 29th, 2014, 3:34 pm

glider_rider wrote:Here are several smaller P36 rakes...

Looks good! The last two on the right look identical, where the others all have different sparks. Any hope of a rake with just two p36 block puffers?
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Re: Pufferfish and companions

Postby glider_rider » December 29th, 2014, 5:59 pm

I've been searching for rakes with two pufferfish, and although I haven't found any, I did find these spaceships.

x = 261, y = 67, rule = B3/S23
11$87b3o5b3o$86bo2bo5bo2bo$86bo3bo3bo3bo$89bobobobo$19bo7bo57b2o4bobo
4b2o$18b3o5b3o56b2o2b3ob3o2b2o$17bo2b2o3b2o2bo57b5ob5o2$89b2o3b2o59b3o
5b3o$16bo3b2o3b2o3bo54b2o11b2o55bo2bo3bo2bo$15bo2b2o2bobo2b2o2bo53b2o
11b2o13b3o5b3o31bo9bo$16bobo3bobo3bobo13b3o5b3o57bo2bo5bo2bo28b2o2bobo
bobo2b2o$19b3o3b3o16bo2bo3bo2bo34b2o3b2o16bo3bo3bo3bo28b2o2bobobobo2b
2o46bo7bo$20bo5bo16bo3bo3bo3bo33b2o3b2o17b4o3b4o28bo5bo3bo5bo44b3o5b3o
$43bobo7bobo58bobo3bobo30bo2bobo3bobo2bo44bo2b2o3b2o2bo$43bobob2ob2obo
bo43b3o52b2o9b2o48b2o3b2o$17bo11bo14bo2b2ob2o2bo28b3o13bo2bo13bo3bo34b
o9bo16b3o5b3o18b2o4bobo4b2o$17bo11bo15b2obobob2o29bo2bo11bo3bo8bo4b2ob
2o4bo56bo2bo3bo2bo18b2o2bobobobo2b2o$46b2o3b2o29bo2b2o2b2o3b2o2b3o2bo
7b2o3b2ob2o3b2o27b2o11b2o13bo3bo3bo3bo17bo13bo14b3o5b3o$20b2o3b2o4bo
10b2o2bo5bo2b2o24b3o5b2o3b2o3bobob2o11b2ob2o32b2o11b2o13bobo7bobo18b3o
2bobo2b3o15bo2bo3bo2bo$15bo4b2o3b2o3b3o9b2o11b2o24bo19bo2bo10b2o3b2o
59bobob2ob2obobo23bobo19bo3bo3bo3bo$14b3o12b2o2bo13bo3bo29b2o18bo2bo
10bo5bo35b2o3b2o18bo2b2ob2o2bo46bobo7bobo$13b2o2bo10bo3b2o12bo5bo29bo
19b2o53b2o3b2o19b2obobob2o19b2o11b2o13bobob2ob2obobo$16b2o10bo2b2o13b
2o3b2o114b3o14b2o3b2o20b2o11b2o14bo2b2ob2o2bo$16bo2bo8bo122b3o12bo2bo
10b2o2bo5bo2b2o46b2obobob2o$20b2o3bobo4bo76b3o38bo2bo12bo4bo8b2o11b2o
20b2o3b2o20b2o3b2o$15b7o3bo7bo6b3o54b2o9bo2bo3b2o3b2o3b3o22bo3bo10b2o
5bo12bo3bo25b2o3b2o16b2o2bo5bo2b2o$10b2ob2o11bo6bo6bo2bo12b3o23bo16bo
8bo3bo2b2o3b2o2bo2bo21bo2b3o2b2o3b2ob2o17bo5bo35bo11b2o11b2o$10b3obo
12b3ob2o5bo7b2o3b2o3bo2bo21b3o24bo3bo14bo20b2obobo3b2o3b2o2b2obo14b2o
3b2o19bo14b3o15bo3bo$11b3o19bo4bo6b3o3b2o2bo3bo20b2ob2o24bo2bo11bobo
21bo2bo17bo3bo35b3o12b2o2bo13bo5bo$38bo5bo10bo3bo20b2ob2o25b2o13bo3bo
18bo2bo17bo2b2o34b2o2bo11bob4o12b2o3b2o$39bo4bo10bo2bo22b3o45bo19b2o
19b2o6b3o26bo2b3o2b2o3b2o2bob2ob2o$40b3o13b2o24bo47bo47bo2bo12b3o10bob
o5b2o3b2o2b2obob2o$176bo7b2o3b2o3bo2bo8bo2bo17bo2b2o4b3o$125bobo48bo6b
3o3b2o2bo3bo9b2o18bo2bo5bo2bo12b3o$103b2o20b3o26b2o20bo5bo10bo3bo9b2o
19b2o4bo7b2o3b2o3bo2bo$103b2o4bo9b3ob3o2bo24bo23bo4bo10bo2bo37bo6b3o3b
2o2bo3bo$108bobo8bo3b5o50b3o13b2o38bo5bo10bo3bo$108b3o5bo2bo2b2o2bobo
83bo22bo4bo10bo2bo$115bo5bo5bobo80bo2bo10bo11b3o13b2o$108bobo3bo4b2o7b
o81bobo11bo$109bo5bob3o6b2o!


I also found this interesting puffer while searching for a rake:

x = 69, y = 90, rule = B3/S23
37b3o5b3o$36bo2bo5bo2bo$36bo3bo3bo3bo$39bobobobo$35b2o4bobo4b2o$35b2o
2b3ob3o2b2o$37b5ob5o2$39b2o3b2o$35b2o11b2o$35b2o11b2o2$39b2o3b2o$39b2o
3b2o2$33b3o$32bo2bo13b3o$36bo11bo2bo$36bo11bo2bo$32b6o7bob2ob2o$35bobo
9bo2bo$33b2o12b2ob2o$33b2o3bo6b5o$38bob2o6bo2bo$40b3obo4bobo$39bo2b3o
6b2ob2o$29b2o7bo2b2ob2o4b2ob2o$31b3o4bobo5b2o2b2ob2o$31b3o5bo11b2o$10b
3o5b3o11b2o$10bo2bo3bo2bo$10bo9bo$8b2o2bobobobo2b2o$8b2o2bobobobo2b2o$
7bo5bo3bo5bo$8bo2bobo3bobo2bo$9b2o9b2o$10bo9bo2$8b2o11b2o$8b2o11b2o$
30b2o$12b2o3b2o11b2o$12b2o3b2o$22b3o$6b3o12bo2bo$5bo2bo12b2obo$5bo2bo
2$3bo2bo3b2obo5b3o$3bo6b3o7b2o4b2o21bo7bo$4bo2b2o10b4o2b3o20b3o5b3o$5b
o19bo21b2obo5bob2o$6b2o40b2obo3bob2o$46bob2o7b2obo$7bo37bobo2bobobobo
2bobo$6bobo3b2o31bobo3b2ob2o3bobo$6bobo2b3o32b3obo5bob3o$47b3o7b3o$10b
ob2o11b3o19b2o9b2o$3bo2b2o4bo6bo4bo3bo18bo11bo$3bo6bo6bobo3bo5bo16b2o
11b2o$10bo3b2o3bo3bo5bo16b2o11b2o$6b2o5bo4bo4bo5bo$13bo4bo5bo3bo21b2o
3b2o$14bo2bo7b3o17bo4b2o3b2o$44b3o14bo$43b2o2bo12b3o$45b3o11b2o2bo2$
48bo$47bobo8bo$41bobo12bob2obo2b2o$41bobo2bo2bo7bo6bo$43bo3b2o11bo2bo$
32b2o28bo$36bo24b2o$32b4obo23bo$32bobo3bo5bo10bobo2bobo$30b2o3bo3bo3bo
bo9bobo$29b3o7bo$27bo2b2o3bo3bobo5bo7b3o$29bo4bo3bo2b2obob3obo4b2o$35b
obo11bo7bo$36bo12bo4bo$49b2o4bo$50b2o2b2o!
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Re: Pufferfish and companions

Postby Extrementhusiast » December 29th, 2014, 6:08 pm

glider_rider wrote:I also found this interesting puffer while searching for a rake:

RLE

Notably, the eater and the attached boat do not form at the same time. Thus, there is this component:
x = 15, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
4b2o6bo$2o2bo2bo5bo$2o3b3o5b2o$9bob2o$10bo2$6b2o$7bo$7bobo$8b2o!
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Re: Pufferfish and companions

Postby HartmutHolzwart » December 30th, 2014, 2:58 pm

Re the fuse finder script:

# codeholic's FuseFinder script v1.02
#   Creates a new layer called "FuseTestLayer"
#   Writes to a FuseFinder subfolder in Golly's data directory.
#   Updates screen every hundred trials (why not?)
#   Uses g.new() as per simsim314's suggestion
#      (I noticed that Golly's Undo got very slow after running the old script) (?)


I noticed that you removed

g.reset after extracting the pattern to be tested. This leads to saving the pattern after 4096 gens, instead of the original starting pattern...

Adding the reset line again solves the issue. I get two different fuses: The one is the known, the other is a HWSS, the trivial solution.
What is teh best fix for that? I assume that the reset was somehow related to the slowing down of undo (and I suppose that my file issue was actually related to missing memory rather than file permission problems).
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Re: Pufferfish and companions

Postby HartmutHolzwart » December 30th, 2014, 7:26 pm

Just noticed that we only need a single block line for this c/2 fuse:

x = 70, y = 356, rule = B3/S23
13$30b2o$30b2o5$30b2o$30b2o5$30b2o$30b2o5$30b2o$30b2o5$30b2o$30b2o5$
30b2o$30b2o5$30b2o$30b2o5$30b2o$30b2o5$30b2o$30b2o5$30b2o$30b2o5$30b2o
$30b2o5$30b2o$30b2o5$30b2o$30b2o5$30b2o$30b2o5$30b2o$30b2o5$30b2o$30b
2o5$30b2o$30b2o5$30b2o$30b2o5$30b2o$30b2o5$30b2o$30b2o5$30b2o$30b2o5$
30b2o$30b2o5$30b2o$30b2o5$30b2o$30b2o5$30b2o$30b2o5$30b2o$30b2o5$30b2o
$30b2o5$30b2o$30b2o5$30b2o$30b2o5$30b2o$30b2o5$30b2o$30b2o5$30b2o$30b
2o5$30b2o$30b2o5$30b2o$30b2o5$30b2o$30b2o5$30b2o$30b2o5$30b2o$30b2o5$
30b2o$30b2o5$30b2o$30b2o5$30b2o$30b2o5$30b2o$30b2o5$30b2o$30b2o5$30b2o
$30b2o5$30b2o$30b2o5$30b2o$30b2o5$30b2o$30b2o5$30b2o$30b2o5$30b2o$30b
2o5$30b2o$30b2o5$30b2o$30b2o4$36bo$30b2o3b3o$30b2o2bo2b2o$34bo3bo$38bo
$37bo$32bobo$34bo2$34b2o$32bobo$33bo!
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Re: Pufferfish and companions

Postby codeholic » January 8th, 2015, 3:07 pm

I made a p160 pufferfish breeder.
x = 495, y = 430, rule = B3/S23
208b2o5b4o$206b2ob2o3bo3bo$206b4o8bo$207b2o5bo2bo3$187b4o15bo7b2o$186b
o3bo6b5o7b2o3bobo$190bo6bo18bo$186bo2bo8b3o13b3o$199bo4b2o$173b6o4b3o
18b2o$172bo5bo6bo$178bo5bo$172bo4bo37b4o$174b2o38bo3bo$218bo$214bo2bo
2$191b3o$193bo22b2o$192bo21bo4bo$220bo$214bo5bo$215b6o3$199b3o$201bo
19b4o$200bo7b2o9b7o$209bo7b3ob3ob2o$209bobo5bob2o3b2o$195b2o4b2o6bo2bo
$197bo3b2o7b2o9b2o$197bo26bo$190bo6b2o26bo$188bo3bo5bo22bo3bo$193bo16b
3o9b4o$188bo4bo15b5o$189b5o4b2o9b3ob2o$196bo4bo10b2o$202bo$184b2o10bo
5bo$175b4o4b4o10b6o$174bo3bo4b2ob2o$178bo6b2o$174bo2bo3$175b2o$152bobo
20bo7b2o$153b2o20bo2bo5b2o$153bo22b3o4b2o$162bo15b2o3bo$162bo$162bobo$
163bo20b2o$163bo19b4o$183b2ob2o$185b2o$194b6o$193bo5bo$199bo$193bo4bo
10b2o$186b5o4b2o9b3ob2o$185bo4bo15b5o$190bo16b3o9b4o$185bo3bo28bo3bo$
186bo9b3ob2o20bo$168bo26bo2b5o9bo8bo$168b2o15b2o7bo3bo2bobo7bobo4b2o$
167bobo28bo3bobo5bo2bo$199bo4bo4b2o2bo2b2o3b2o$199b2o2bo6bobo2b2ob3ob
2o$196b2o12b2o4b7o$198bobo11bo5b4o$199bo3$212b6o$191bo19bo5bo$192bo24b
o$190b3o18bo4bo$213b2o$180bo$130bo49bo$128bobo49bo30bo2bo$129b2o84bo$
171b2o38bo3bo$169bo4bo37b4o$112bobo60bo15b3o$113b2o54bo5bo$113bo56b6o
14bo2bo14b2o$190bobo18bo$183bo2bo19b2o4b2o$187bo17b2o6bo$183bo3bo16b2o
7bo$184b4o17bo3bo2bo$210bo2$204b2o5bo2bo$203b4o8bo$203b2ob2o3bo3bo$
205b2o5b4o2$177b2o$174b3ob2o29b2o$174b5o21b4o4b4o$175b3o21bo3bo4b2ob2o
$203bo6b2o$199bo2bo$449b5o$194bo253bo4bo21b2o5bo2bo$193b3o4b2o251bo20b
4o8bo$193bobo4bo7b2o238bo3bo21b2ob2o3bo3bo$195b2o3bo2bo5b2o239bo25b2o
5b4o$201b3o4b2o249b3o$203b2o3bo246b2o2bo2bo$454bo2bob3obo6bo8bobo$199b
o257bo3b2obo4bobo5b2o3bo$197bo3bo7b2o253bo4bobo5b3obob2o$202bo5b4o242b
o8bo13b3o4bo$197bo4bo5b2ob2o239bo7bo19bo3bo$198b5o7b2o240b2o5bo21b3o$
451bobo27bo$90bo94b3o$88bobo96bo22b2o270bo2bo$89b2o50bo44bo21bo4bo261b
2o9bo$140bo73bo257b3ob2o4bo3bo$140b3o65bo5bo257b5o6b4o$72bobo134b6o
245bo12b3o$73b2o385b2o$73bo385bobo$193b3o$195bo19b4o268b2o$194bo7b2o9b
7o263b4ob2o$203bo7b3ob3ob2o262b6o$203bobo5bob2o3b2o264b4o$189b2o4b2o6b
o2bo261bo$191bo3b2o7b2o9b2o209b2o40b2o20b2o$191bo26bo203b4ob2o7bo30bob
o23bo$184bo6b2o26bo202b6o6bo3bo37b2o9bo6bo$182bo3bo5bo22bo3bo203b4o12b
o37bo7bo8bo$187bo16b3o9b4o197b2o15bo4bo36b2o7bob8o$182bo4bo15b5o206b3o
b2o15b5o24bo4b2o6bo2bo7b2o$183b5o4b2o9b3ob2o205b5o30b2o14bo3b2o7b2o$
190bo4bo10b2o207b3o29b2ob2o12b2o$12b2o182bo226b3o21b4o14b2o25b2o$8b4ob
2o175bo5bo226bo24b2o15b2o12bo10b2ob2o$8b6o177b6o224bobo3b2o7b2o10bo11b
2o15bo3bo8b4o$9b4o409bo4b2o7b2o8bo3bo6b3ob2o19bo8b2o$421bo14b2o4b2obo
5bo5b5o15bo4bo$433bobo8b2o5bo6b3o17b5o$425bo8b2o10b6o17b2o$105b3ob3o
73b3ob3o73b3ob3o73b3ob3o74b2o37b4ob2o$425b2o38b6o$466b4o2$2b2o440b2o$o
4bo434b4ob2o$6bo108bo79bo79bo63b2o5b4o90b6o$o5bo107bobo77bobo77bobo60b
2ob2o3bo3bo67bo23b4o$b6o107b2o78b2o78b2o61b4o8bo68b2o$16b2o320b2o5bo2b
o68b2o$15b4o420bo2bo$15b2ob2o316bo95b2o9bo$17b2o236b2o5b4o69b2o8b2o82b
3ob2o4bo3bo$253b2ob2o3bo3bo68bo9bo2bo81b5o6b4o$253b4o8bo69b5o4bo2bo82b
3o$254b2o5bo2bo71b4o3b2ob2o$339bo4b2o$424bo$234b4o15bo7b2o59bobo98b2o
4b2o8b3o$233bo3bo6b5o7b2o3bobo59b2o97bob3ob2o11bo$237bo6bo18bo59b2o21b
4o72b2obob4o3b2o3bobo$233bo2bo8b3o13b3o81bo3bo9b4o62bobo3bo7b2o$246bo
4b2o96bo8b6o62bo$220b6o25b2o92bo2bo9b4ob2o$219bo5bo136b2o68b2o5bo2bo$
225bo125b3o17b5o55b4o8bo$75b2o65b2o75bo4bo37b4o84b5o15bo4bo55b2ob2o3bo
3bo$69b2o5b2o63b2o78b2o38bo3bo84b3ob2o19bo8b2o20b5o22b2o5b4o$70b2o3bo
67bo121bo87b2o15bo3bo8b4o5b2o11bo4bo$69bo154bo36bo2bo107bo10b2ob2o5b2o
15bo$224bo12b3o145b2o5bo12bo3bo23b2o$76b3o145bo14bo128b3o36bo23bo4bo$
78bo159bo24b2o95b2o6bo2bo6bo58bo$77bo183bo4bo93b2o5bo3bo5b6o48bo5bo$
267bo99bo3bo4bo3b8o37bo6b6o7b3o$124b2o135bo5bo36bo2bo60bobo6b2o8bo35bo
3bo16b5o$124bobo135b6o40bo28b2o39b3o6bo40bo15b3ob2o$74b3o47bo163b2o14b
o3bo27bobo40b2o5bo36bo4bo18b2o7bo2bo$76bo168b3o36b4ob2o7bo6b4o29bo20bo
bo21b2o39b5o31bo$75bo171bo36b6o6bo3bo59b2o74b5o15bo3bo$246bo21b4o13b4o
12bo58bo16b4o54bo3b2o16b4o$264b9o6b2o15bo4bo74b6o54bo2bo$254b2o7bo2bob
3ob2o2b3ob2o15b5o74b4ob2o46b2o5bo2bo6bo$254b3o5bo3b2o3b2o3b5o5bo24b2o
67b2o47b2o7b2ob3o2b2o5bo3b3o$246b2o5bo2b2o5b3o11b3o5b3o21b2ob2o124b2ob
obo9bo2b5o$246b2o6b3o11b2o14bo2bo21b4o128bobo2bo6bob4ob2o$255bo15bo12b
o3bo12b2o7b2o39bobo90b2o13b2o$214bobo20bo34bo12b4o12b2o7bo41b2o$215b2o
18bo3bo28bo3bo12bo2b2ob3o5bo8bo3bo39bo$215bo24bo16b3o9b4o16b3o5b2o8bo
5bo64b2o71b2o$235bo4bo15b5o28b3o6b3o6bo5bo62b2ob2o51bo16bo4bo$236b5o4b
2o9b3ob2o27b2o8bobo6b6o42bo19b4o50bobo22bo$243bo4bo10b2o27b2o48b2o16bo
20b2o52b2o16bo5bo$249bo84b4ob2o14bobo92b6o$243bo5bo84b6o15bo$244b6o85b
4o16bo15b2o3bo$306b2o61b3o4b2o$302b4ob2o41b2o16bo2bo5b2o$280bo21b6o40b
2ob2o15bo7b2o46bo$217b2o62b2o20b4o41b4o16b2o52bobo25b4o$215b2ob2o60b2o
67b2o72b2o24bo3bo$215b4o234bo$216b2o83bo2bo62bo2bo37b6o35bo2bo$208b3o
5bo77b2o9bo65bo6b2o27bo5bo$207bob2o3bo3bo72b3ob2o4bo3bo61bo3bo4b2ob2o
32bo19bo4b2o$207bo5bo5bo71b5o6b4o62b4o4b4o27bo4bo19bobo3b2o9b2o$115b2o
90b3o3bo5bo42b2o8bo19b3o82b2o30b2o20bo3bo12bo2bo$109b2o5b2o90bo3bob6o
41b2o10b2o147b4o5bo3bo12bo2bo$110b2o3bo94bo52bo8b2o147bo3bo5bo3bo11b2o
b2o$109bo185bo4b2o123bo5bo2bo13b2o$286b2o4b4o3b2ob2o117bo2bo8bo$116b3o
167b3o2b5o4bo2bo$118bo165b2o2bobo9bo2bo$117bo166b2ob2o2b2o8b2o140b2o5b
4o$284b2obo4bo148b2ob2o3bo3bo$286bo154b4o8bo$294b2o5bo2bo137b2o5bo2bo$
114b3o176b4o8bo$116bo176b2ob2o3bo3bo$115bo152b5o22b2o5b4o$267bo4bo$
272bo$267bo3bo$269bo33b2o5bo2bo$302b4o8bo$302b2ob2o3bo3bo$304b2o5b4o3$
282bo2bo21b2o$286bo11b2o3b3o4bo$282bo3bo7b2o6b5o4b2o$283b4o8b3o4bob2o
6bo$270b2o24bo4b2o9bo$268bo4bo27b2o5bo2bo$274bo26b2o6bo$268bo5bo6b2o$
269b6o5bobo27bo2bo$282bo31bo$310bo3bo$311b4o4$289b2o$288bobo$155b2o
133bo20b6o$149b2o5b2o63bo2bo85bo5bo$150b2o3bo69bo48bo41bo$149bo71bo3bo
49b2o33bo4bo$222b4o48b2o36b2o$156b3o55bo82bo$158bo54bob2o78bo2bo10bo$
157bo53bo10b3o73bo11bo2b2o5b2o$211bo9b5o73bo7b2obo5b4ob2o$163b2o46bo2b
o5b4ob2o68bo3bobo5bo9b5o$163b2o48bo3b2o5b2o72bo3bo4bo10b3o$154b3o137b
4o3bo7bob2o$156bo136bo16bo$155bo137bo2bo21b4o$148b5o141b3o20bo3bo$147b
o4bo132b5o31bo$152bo131bo4bo18b2o7bo2bo$147bo3bo48b6o83bo15b3ob2o$149b
o41bo7bo5bo78bo3bo16b5o13b2o5bo2bo$189b3o7bo5bo80bo6b6o7b3o13b4o8bo$
191bo8bo3bo87bo5bo23b2ob2o3bo3bo$193b2o7bo95bo25b2o5b4o$193b2o7b2o18b
2o14b2o52bo4bo$201b4o16bobo12bo4bo52b2o$201b2ob2o17bo18bo59bo2bo21bobo
$203b2o31bo5bo63bo18b2o3bo$226bo10b6o59bo3bo9bo8b3obob2o$223bo3bo75b4o
18b3o4bo$223b4o63b2o19b2o15bo3bo$225bo62bo4bo5b2o9bo7bo10b3o$294bo3bo
2bo8bo3bobobo10bo$288bo5bo5bo10b3o$289b6o35bo2bo$334bo$330bo3bo$331b4o
$246b2o$244bo4bo57b2o$250bo55bobo$244bo5bo57bo$245b6o$189b2o140b6o$
190b2o138bo5bo$189bo146bo$330bo4bo$196b3o93bo22b2o15b2o$198bo94b2o19bo
bo$197bo94b2o22bo$256b2o65b2o15b2o$255b4o66bo8bob4ob2o$244bo10b2ob2o
63b3o7b2o2b5o$194b3o45b2ob2o10b2o57b2o5b2obo7bo3b3o$196bo45b2o68bo3b2o
7b2o$195bo47bo67bo$253b2o83b4o$250bob8o52b2o23bo3bo$242bo7bo8bo45b5o
31bo$240b2o10bo6bo44bo4bo18b2o7bo2bo$240b2ob2o13bo50bo15b3ob2o$242bo
12b2o47bo3bo16b5o$306bo6b6o7b3o$312bo5bo$318bo$312bo4bo$239bobo72b2o$
239b3o$310b2o5bo2bo$309b4o8bo$309b2ob2o3bo3bo$311b2o5b4o3$239b2o48bo2b
o8bo$239b2o52bo5bo2bo13b2o$289bo3bo5bo3bo11b2ob2o$290b4o5bo3bo12bo2bo$
267b2o8b2o20bo3bo12bo2bo$265bo4bo4bo4bo19bobo3b2o9b2o$271bo9bo19bo4b2o
$265bo5bo3bo5bo$266b6o4b6o6b3o26bo2bo$288b3o30bo$287b2ob2o25bo3bo$288b
3o27b4o$288b3o$236b3o50bo$238bo$237bo2$298b2o18b6o$297bobo17bo5bo$234b
3o62bo23bo$236bo80bo4bo$235bo83b2o3$305b3ob2o16b2o$275bo29b3ob2o10bob
4ob2o$276b2o26b2o4bo9b2o2b5o$275b2o18b2o9b2ob2o2bo7bo3b3o$295b2o5bobo
2bob2o2bo$302bob5o$300b2ob3o19b4o$301b3o20bo3bo$292b5o4bo26bo$291bo4bo
18b2o7bo2bo$296bo15b3ob2o$291bo3bo16b5o$293bo6b6o7b3o$299bo5bo$290b2o
13bo$289b4o6bo4bo$289b2ob2o7b2o$291b2o3$272bo4b2o$271b3o3b2o9b2o$270b
2ob2o12bo2bo$269b3ob3o11bo2b2o$269b3ob2o11bo2b2o$271bobo12b4o3$290b2o$
281b4o4b4o15b2o$280bo3bo4b2ob2o10b4ob2o7bo$284bo6b2o11b6o6bo3bo$280bo
2bo21b4o12bo$299b2o15bo4bo$296b3ob2o15b5o$274b3o19b5o30b2o$276bo20b3o
29b2ob2o$275bo37b3o13b4o$312bo2bo14b2o$305b2o10bo4b3o5bo$305b2o4bo5bo
3bob2o3bo3bo$312b2obobo3bo5bo5bo$321b3o3bo5bo$322bo3bob6o$324bo$305bo
17bo$306b2o$305b2o$326b2o$322b4ob2o$322b6o$323b4o2$297bo$282b3o13b2o$
297b2o24b2o$322b4o$322b2ob2o$281b4o39b2o$280b6o$280b4ob2o$284b2o19bo4b
2o$304b3o3b2o9b2o$295b2o6b2ob2o12bo2bo$294b4o4b3ob3o11bo2b2o$294b2ob2o
3b3ob2o11bo2b2o$296b2o6bobo12b4o3$323b2o$314b4o4b4o$313bo3bo4b2ob2o$
317bo6b2o$313bo2bo!
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Re: Pufferfish and companions

Postby simsim314 » January 8th, 2015, 3:48 pm

Nice! Making breeders is so much more fun than guns - not sure why.

Anyway I guess we should make gun script for extendable puffer wish based ship:

x = 53, y = 37, rule = B3/S23
8bo7bo18bo7bo$7b3o5b3o16b3o5b3o$6b2o2bo3bo2b2o14bo2b2o3b2o2bo$6bo2bo5b
o2bo$5b2o3b2ob2o3b2o$6bobob2ob2obobo13bo3b2o3b2o3bo$7bo9bo13bo2b2o2bob
o2b2o2bo$8bo2bobo2bo15bobo3bobo3bobo$35b3o3b3o$5b2o2b2o3b2o2b2o16bo5bo
$5b2o11b2o2$9bo5bo17bo11bo$9b2o3b2o17bo11bo2$20bo10bo4b2o3b2o$4bo14b3o
8b3o3b2o3b2o4bo$3b3o12bo2b2o6bo2b2o12b3o$2bo2b2o2b2o3b2o2b3o2bo5b2o3bo
10bo2b2o$2b2o5b2o3b2o5bobo6b2o2bo10b2o$bo19bo2bo9bo8bo2bo$b3o18b2o6bo
4bobo3b2o$22b2o5bo7bo3b7o$29bo6bo11b2ob2o$30b2ob3o12bob3o$18bo10bo19b
3o$17bo2bo$2bo15bobo$bobo$o3bo43b3o$o3bo43bobo$bobo$2bo3$48bobo$48b3o!
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Re: Pufferfish and companions

Postby codeholic » January 8th, 2015, 4:08 pm

Another idea is to make a pufferfish slidegun :)
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Re: Pufferfish and companions

Postby codeholic » January 11th, 2015, 6:58 pm

A variant with a clean inserter:
x = 495, y = 428, rule = B3/S23
208b2o5b4o$206b2ob2o3bo3bo$206b4o8bo$207b2o5bo2bo3$187b4o15bo7b2o$186b
o3bo6b5o7b2o3bobo$190bo6bo18bo$186bo2bo8b3o13b3o$199bo4b2o$173b6o25b2o
$172bo5bo5b3o$178bo7bo$172bo4bo7bo29b4o$174b2o38bo3bo$218bo$214bo2bo3$
192b3o21b2o$194bo19bo4bo$193bo26bo$214bo5bo$215b6o$177bobo$178b2o$178b
o$200b3o18b4o$203bo6b2o8b6o$200bo8bo2bo6bob3ob2o$209bo2bo6b2o3b2o$197b
o5b2o5bo$196b3o5bo7b3o6b2o$196bo3bo12b2o9bo$190bo5bo2b2o24bo$188bo3bo
4bobo21bo3bo$193bo3b3o10b3o9b4o$188bo4bo15b5o$189b5o4b2o9b3ob2o$196bo
4bo10b2o$202bo$184b2o10bo5bo$175b4o4b4o10b6o$174bo3bo4b2ob2o$178bo6b2o
$174bo2bo3$175b2o$175bo7b2o$175bo2bo5b2o$176b3o4b2o$162bo15b2o3bo$162b
o$162bobo$163bo20b2o$163bo19b4o$183b2ob2o$185b2o$155bo38b6o$153bobo37b
o5bo$154b2o43bo$193bo4bo10b2o$186b5o4b2o9b3ob2o$137bobo45bo4bo15b5o$
138b2o50bo16b3o9b4o$138bo46bo3bo28bo3bo$187bo12bo21bo$200b3o18bo$188b
2o7b3o2b2o14b2o$188b2o6b2o5b2o8b3o$196b5o2b3o6bo3b2o3b2o$199bobo2bo8bo
2bob3ob2o$200b2obo10b9o$199bo18b4o4$192bo19b6o$193bo17bo5bo$191b3o23bo
$211bo4bo$213b2o3$211bo2bo$184bo30bo$171b2o12bo25bo3bo$169bo4bo8b3o26b
4o$175bo15b3o$169bo5bo$170b6o14bo2bo14b2o$190bobo18bo$183bo2bo19b2o4b
2o$187bo17b2o6bo$183bo3bo16b2o7bo$184b4o17bo3bo2bo$210bo2$115bo88b2o5b
o2bo$113bobo87b4o8bo$114b2o87b2ob2o3bo3bo$205b2o5b4o2$97bobo77b2o$98b
2o74b3ob2o29b2o$98bo75b5o21b4o4b4o$175b3o6bo14bo3bo4b2ob2o$183bobo17bo
6b2o$199bo2bo$179b2o268b5o$179bo7bo260bo4bo21b2o5bo2bo$181b2obo15b2o
251bo20b4o8bo$185b3o12bo7b2o238bo3bo21b2ob2o3bo3bo$200bo2bo5b2o239bo
25b2o5b4o$201b3o4b2o$203b2o3bo$178b3o298bobo$180bo18bo266bo2b2o6b2o3bo
$179bo17bo3bo7b2o255bo2bobo5b3obob2o$202bo5b4o259b2o4b3o4bo$197bo4bo5b
2ob2o257bo9bo3bo$198b5o7b2o269b3o$481bo2$186b3o21b2o270bo2bo$188bo19bo
4bo261b2o9bo$187bo26bo257b3ob2o4bo3bo$208bo5bo257b5o6b4o$209b6o258b3o$
461bo$461b2o$417bobo40bobo$194b3o18b4o198b2o68b2o$197bo6b2o8b6o198bo
64b4ob2o$194bo8bo2bo6bob3ob2o262b6o$203bo2bo6b2o3b2o264b4o$191bo5b2o5b
o$190b3o5bo7b3o6b2o209b2o41bo20b2o$75bo114bo3bo12b2o9bo203b4ob2o7bo32b
2o17bo4bo$73bobo108bo5bo2b2o24bo202b6o6bo3bo29bobo7b2o14bo$74b2o20bo
85bo3bo4bobo21bo3bo203b4o12bo37bo2bo6bo6bo$95bo91bo3b3o10b3o9b4o197b2o
15bo4bo37b3o7b8o$95b3o84bo4bo15b5o206b3ob2o15b5o24b3o4b2o6b2o7b2o$57bo
bo123b5o4b2o9b3ob2o205b5o5bo24b2o13bobo4b2o7bobo$58b2o130bo4bo10b2o
207b3o5b3o21b2ob2o11b2obobo11bobo$12b2o44bo137bo225bo2bo21b4o13b5o23b
2o$8b4ob2o175bo5bo225bo3bo12b2o7b2o14b2o13bo10b2ob2o$8b6o177b6o226b4o
12b2o7bo11b2o3bobo9bo3bo8b4o$9b4o410bo2b2ob3o5bo8bo3bo6b3ob2o2bo16bo8b
2o$427b3o5b2o8bo5bo5b5o15bo4bo$427b3o6b3o6bo5bo6b3o17b5o$427b2o8bobo6b
6o17b2o$75b3ob3o73b3ob3o73b3ob3o73b3ob3o104b2o37b4ob2o$465b6o$466b4o2$
2b2o440b2o$o4bo434b4ob2o$6bo78bo79bo79bo93b2o5b4o68bo21b6o$o5bo77bobo
77bobo77bobo90b2ob2o3bo3bo69b2o20b4o$b6o77b2o78b2o78b2o91b4o8bo68b2o$
16b2o320b2o5bo2bo$15b4o420bo2bo$15b2ob2o40b2o35b2o237bo95b2o9bo$17b2o
35b2o5b2o33b2o157b2o5b4o69b2o8b2o82b3ob2o4bo3bo$55b2o3bo37bo154b2ob2o
3bo3bo68bo9bo2bo29b2o50b5o6b4o$54bo198b4o8bo69b5o4bo2bo30b2o30bo19b3o$
254b2o5bo2bo71b4o3b2ob2o29bo33b2o$61b3o275bo4b2o64b2o$63bo$62bo171b4o
15bo7b2o59bobo95b2o7b2o8b3o$233bo3bo6b5o7b2o3bobo59b2o92b3o2bo6bo11bo$
79b2o156bo6bo18bo60bo21b4o66b4ob2o6b2o3b2o3bobo$79bobo151bo2bo8b3o13b
3o58bo22bo3bo9b4o52bo2bob2o9bo7b2o$59b3o17bo166bo4b2o68bobo25bo8b6o52b
2ob2o$61bo158b6o4b3o18b2o70bo21bo2bo9b4ob2o59bobo$60bo158bo5bo6bo129b
2o54bobo4bo6b2o5bo2bo$225bo5bo119b3o17b5o43bo11b4o8bo$219bo4bo37b4o84b
5o15bo4bo55b2ob2o3bo3bo$221b2o38bo3bo84b3ob2o19bo8b2o20b5o22b2o5b4o$
265bo87b2o15bo3bo8b4o18bo4bo$261bo2bo93b2o12bo10b2ob2o22bo$358b2o25b2o
18bo3bo23b2o$238b3o116b2o48bo23bo4bo$240bo22b2o93bo3b2o7b2o64bo$239bo
21bo4bo90bo4b2o6bo2bo7b2o48bo5bo$267bo101b2o7bob8o37bo6b6o7b3o$261bo5b
o36bo2bo62bo7bo8bo35bo3bo16b5o$262b6o40bo60b2o9bo6bo40bo15b3ob2o$288b
2o14bo3bo51bobo23bo36bo4bo18b2o7bo2bo$284b4ob2o7bo6b4o52b2o20b2o39b5o
11bo19bo$246b3o35b6o6bo3bo60bo77b4o13bo3bo$248bo19b4o13b4o12bo75b4o57b
2o2bo14b4o$247bo7b2o9b7o6b2o15bo4bo74b6o58bob2o5bo$256bo7b3ob3ob2o2b3o
b2o15b5o74b4ob2o48b2o8bo6bob2o$256bobo5bob2o3b2o3b5o30b2o67b2o49b2o8bo
bo2bo10b3o$242b2o4b2o6bo2bo17b3o29b2ob2o128b2o2bo9b5o$244bo3b2o7b2o9b
2o18b2o19b4o39bobo91b2obo5b4ob2o$244bo26bo5bo8b2ob5o16b2o41b2o94bo2b2o
5b2o$237bo6b2o26bo3bo9b2o4bobo7b3o5bo42bo94bo$235bo3bo5bo22bo3bo4bo8b
2obo5bo5bob2o3bo3bo$240bo16b3o9b4o14b3o3bobo5bo5bo5bo64b2o53bo17b2o$
235bo4bo15b5o26b2obo3bo6b3o3bo5bo62b2ob2o50bobo15bo4bo$100b2o115b2o17b
5o4b2o9b3ob2o26bob2o10bo3bob6o42bo19b4o52b2o21bo$94b2o5b2o113b2o25bo4b
o10b2o28b3o12bo33b2o16bo20b2o70bo5bo$95b2o3bo117bo30bo53bo30b4ob2o3bob
o8bobo59b2o31b6o$94bo148bo5bo84b6o5b2o8bo62b2o$244b6o85b4o6b2o8bo15b2o
3bo40bo$101b3o202b2o61b3o4b2o$103bo177bo20b4ob2o41b2o16bo2bo5b2o46bo$
102bo179b2o18b6o40b2ob2o15bo7b2o45bobo$217b2o62b2o20b4o41b4o16b2o54b2o
24b4o$199b2o14b2ob2o129b2o98bo3bo$199bobo13b4o234bo$99b3o97bo16b2o83bo
2bo62bo2bo37b6o35bo2bo$101bo114bo77b2o9bo65bo6b2o27bo5bo$100bo109b2o2b
o3bo72b3ob2o4bo3bo61bo3bo4b2ob2o32bo19bo4b2o$210b2obo5bo53bo17b5o6b4o
62b4o4b4o27bo4bo19bobo3b2o9b2o$210b4o5bo54b2o16b3o82b2o30b2o20bo3bo12b
o2bo$214b6o53b2o147b4o5bo3bo12bo2bo$421bo3bo5bo3bo11b2ob2o$295bo4b2o
123bo5bo2bo13b2o$292b4o3b2ob2o117bo2bo8bo$277b2o12b5o4bo2bo$276b2o12bo
9bo2bo$278bo12b2o8b2o140b2o5b4o$271b2o19bo148b2ob2o3bo3bo$271b2o168b4o
8bo$294b2o5bo2bo137b2o5bo2bo$293b4o8bo$293b2ob2o3bo3bo$268b5o22b2o5b4o
$267bo4bo$272bo$267bo3bo$269bo2$266bo2bo$270bo$266bo3bo$267b4o3$140b2o
$134b2o5b2o130b2o5b4o$135b2o3bo130b2ob2o3bo3bo$134bo136b4o8bo$272b2o5b
o2bo$141b3o$143bo134bo$142bo109b4o17bo3bo2bo$251bo3bo16b2o7bo$255bo17b
2o6bo$251bo2bo19b2o4b2o$139b3o106bo9bobo18bo$141bo96b6o4bo9bo2bo14b2o$
140bo96bo5bo$243bo15b3o$237bo4bo37b4o$239b2o38bo3bo$283bo$279bo2bo$
255b3o$257bo$256bo24b2o$279bo4bo$285bo$279bo5bo$280b6o$316b4o$263b3o
49bo3bo$240bobo22bo53bo$241b2o21bo21b4o25bo2bo$241bo40b9o$272b2o7bo2bo
b3ob2o29b2o5bo2bo$272b3o5bo3b2o3b2o29b4o8bo$264b2o5bo2b2o5b3o36b2ob2o
3bo3bo$264b2o6b3o11b2o34b2o5b4o$273bo15bo$255bo34bo$253bo3bo28bo3bo9bo
2bo21b2o$258bo16b3o9b4o13bo11b2o3b3o4bo$253bo4bo15b5o21bo3bo7b2o6b5o4b
2o$180b2o72b5o4b2o9b3ob2o21b4o8b3o4bob2o6bo$174b2o5b2o78bo4bo10b2o9b2o
24bo4b2o9bo$175b2o3bo86bo18bo4bo27b2o5bo2bo$174bo86bo5bo24bo26b2o6bo$
247b2o13b6o18bo5bo$181b3o55b2o5b4o37b6o7b2o26bo2bo$183bo46bo6b2ob2o4b
2ob2o48bobo30bo$182bo45bo8b4o7b2o51bo26bo3bo$228b2obo6b2o89b4o$229bobo
12bo$212b2o17bo10bo$179b3o28bo4bo12bobobo9bo2b2o$181bo34bo10bo2bobo8bo
5bo$180bo20b2o6bo6bo10bo2b2o10bobo2b2o59b2o$200bo8b8o25bo3b2o59bobo19b
6o$210b2o21b2o9b3o62bo18bo5bo$201bo2bo28b2o99bo$202bobo123bo4bo$214b2o
31b2o81b2o$212b2ob2o29b4o$212b4o30b2ob2o65b2o12bobo$213b2o33b2o4b2o61b
2o10bo2bo5b2o$253b4o57b2o13b2o3b4ob2o$253b2ob2o57b2o3b3o5bo6b5o$255b2o
47b2o6bo7b2o7b2o5b3o$303bo9b2obo2b2o8b2ob2o$248bo55b2o8bobo2bo$247b6o
62bobo18b4o$246bo3b8o77bo3bo$247b2o8bo45b5o31bo$248b3o6bo44bo4bo18b2o
7bo2bo$249b2o5bo20bo29bo15b3ob2o$253b2o23b2o22bo3bo16b5o$277b2o25bo6b
6o7b3o$210b3o97bo5bo$316bo$210bo99bo4bo$312b2o2$308b2o5bo2bo$207b2obo
96b4o8bo$206bo3bo3b2o91b2ob2o3bo3bo$215b2o92b2o5b4o$205bo8bo$205bob2o
96bo$205bo4bo10b3o63bo2bo13b2o$207bo3bo11bo67bo11bob2o7b2o$207b2ob2o
10bo64bo3bo11bobo7bo2b2o$210b2o76b4o11b2o3bo3b3o2bo$265b2o8b2o28bob3o
2bo4bo$263bo4bo4bo4bo33b5o$219b3o47bo9bo33b2o$221bo41bo5bo3bo5bo$220bo
43b6o4b6o14bo20bo2bo$292b2o25bo$315bo3bo$316b4o$291b2o$290bobo$292bo3$
316b6o$315bo5bo$321bo$299b2o14bo4bo$298bobo16b2o$300bo$317bobo$316bo2b
o5b2o$316b2o3b4ob2o$306b2ob2o4bo6b5o$299b2o5b2ob3o4b2o5b3o$299b2o5b2o
2bo5b2ob2o$307b3o$308bo14b4o$322bo3bo$290b5o31bo$289bo4bo18b2o7bo2bo$
294bo15b3ob2o$289bo3bo16b5o$291bo6b6o7b3o$297bo5bo$260bo27b2o13bo$261b
2o24b4o6bo4bo$260b3o24b2ob2o7b2o$264bo24b2o$264bo$285bo$283bo$279bo3bo
2b2o$259b3o13bo2b3obo5bo$261bo12bob5o2bobo2b2o$260bo12b2ob2o5bo3b2o$
274bo2bo7b3o2$275b2o$288b2o$279b4o4b4o15b2o$278bo3bo4b2ob2o10b4ob2o7bo
$282bo6b2o11b6o6bo3bo$278bo2bo21b4o12bo$297b2o15bo4bo$294b3ob2o15b5o$
294b5o5bo24b2o$295b3o5b3o21b2ob2o$302bo2bo21b4o$302bo3bo12b2o7b2o$303b
4o12b2o7bo$303bo2b2ob3o5bo8bo3bo$307b3o5b2o8bo5bo$307b3o6b3o6bo5bo$
307b2o8bobo6b6o$306b2o4$324b2o$320b4ob2o$298bo21b6o$299b2o20b4o$298b2o
3$321b2o$320b4o$320b2ob2o$279b4o7bo6bo24b2o$278b6o7b2o4bo$278b4ob2o5b
2o26bo$282b2o32bo$312bo3bo2b2o$293b2o13bo2b3obo5bo$292b4o11bob5o2bobo
2b2o$292b2ob2o9b2ob2o5bo3b2o$294b2o11bo2bo7b3o2$308b2o$321b2o$312b4o4b
4o$311bo3bo4b2ob2o$315bo6b2o$311bo2bo!

Here is the inserter isolated:
x = 109, y = 155, rule = B3/S23
108bo$106bobo$107b2o38$68bo$66bobo$67b2o19$67bo2bo$6b3o50b4o8bo$3o5bo
49bo3bo4bo3bo$2bo4bo41bobo10bo5b4o$bo47b2o7bo2bo$8bo40b2ob2o$8b2o40bob
2o10bobo$7bobo40b2obo8b2o3bo$25bo3b2o5b2o10b2obobo8b3obob2o$23bo2bo5b
4ob2o12b2o9b3o4bo$23bo9b5o27bo3bo$6bo16bo10b3o17b2o10b3o$6b2o17bob2o
25b2o10bo$5bobo18bo$34b4o29bo2bo$33bo3bo33bo$37bo29bo3bo$33bo2bo31b4o
25$40b3o$42bo$41bo$48bo$48b2o$47bobo4$46bo$46b2o$45bobo29$80b3o$82bo$
81bo$88bo$88b2o$87bobo4$86bo$86b2o$85bobo!
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Re: Pufferfish and companions

Postby codeholic » February 11th, 2015, 3:11 pm

I found pufferfish with gsearch.
#C Moves horizontally 6 and vertically 0 in 12 generations.
x = 12, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
4b3o3b2o$2bob2obo2b2o$bo5bo$2o5bo$b3obo$2b2o$4b2ob2o2$4b2ob2o$2b2o$b3obo$2o5bo$bo5bo$2bob2obo2b2o$4b3o3b2o!

I wonder, if it means that it might have been found in an asymmetric soup. Unfortunately gsearch doesn't display initial conditions by default.
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Re: Pufferfish and companions

Postby Sokwe » February 11th, 2015, 11:49 pm

codeholic wrote:I found pufferfish with gsearch.... I wonder, if it means that it might have been found in an asymmetric soup.

It was probably found in a symmetric search. If you look at the function processRule() in gsearch.c (specifically, line 924), it seems to run through each symmetry mode and tests that mode until it has run a certain number of patterns.
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Re: Pufferfish and companions

Postby codeholic » February 12th, 2015, 4:37 am

I see. Anyway, it's quite exciting to think, that the pufferfish might have been discovered 15 years ago. On the other hand, computers became somewhat faster (and that was in fact my primary motivation to give gsearch the second chance). It's also impressive, that gsearch compiled without changing a single line of code after such a long time. Kudos to David Eppstein.
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