## Move/Morley (245/368)

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### Move/Morley (245/368)

Hard to believe there isn't a topic for this, so I thought I'd start one. This rule shares many patterns with Life. To start this thread, here is a collection of all natural SLs up to 14 bits, and a few other natural things including spaceships and (mainly sparky) oscillators. This rule definitely has a lot of room for potential.

x = 427, y = 188, rule = B368/S245bo$obo$bo2$bo$obo$bo2$bo$obo$bo2$bo345b2o66b2o6b2o$obo112b2o38bo72bo8bo62bo7b2o9bo2bo4b2o11b2o4bo2bo8bo10b2o6bobo6bobo5b2obo7b2o6bo2bo7bo$bo66bo4b2o8b2o4bo7bo8b2o7bo5bo8b2o22bobo14bo2bo7bobo3b2o10bo7bo6bobo9bobo6bobo7b2o3bobo7bobo6bo2bo9bo8bo5b3o8bo9b4o5bo2bo8bo6bo2bo7b3o5bo2bo7b3o6b2obo3bo2b2o6bo2bo5b2ob2o5b4o$26b2o4bo8bo4bobo4b2o6bo5bobo4bo8bo5b3o3b3o8bo6b3o4bobobo6bo7bobo5bo2bo4bo8bo6b4o7b3o4bo2bo7b3o3b3o6b3o7b4o5b4o8bo4b3o2bo3bob2o6b4o9b3o4b3o6b2ob2o5b2o7b3o7b4o4b2ob3o4b3obo5b3obo5b4o5b3o7b2obo5bob3o5bo2bo4b3o6b3o2bo$bo5bo5b2o4b2o6bo3bobo5b3o3bob2o3bo2bo3b3o4bo2bo4b3o4b4o3b3o5bob2o5b3o5bo7b4o5b3o5bob2o5b4o3b3o7b3o6b3o5b2o6b4o4bob2obo4b2ob2o5b2obo5b2o5bo2bo7b4o5b4o4bob2o7bob2o4bob2obo5b3o5bo2bo5b5o3b3o7b4o5bo2b2o5bobobo4b4o6b4o7bobo5b4o8bobobo3b6o5bo7bo$obo3bobo4bo4bo2bo3bo5bo2bo4bo6bo5bo2bo4b3o3bobo7bo5bo7bo5b3o4b3o5b3o8bo5b3o5b4o5b4o7b3o3b3obo6bo5b3o9b3o3b3o7bo2bo7b3o3bo2bo5bo2bo5b4o8bo9b3o5b3o4bob2o6bo2bobo6bobo3bobo2bo3bobo7bo2bo6b2obo6bo7bo2bo6bo2bo6b2ob2o4bo2bo11bo6b2o7b2o5b2o$bo5bo4b2o5b2o4b2o5b2o4b2o5b2o6b2o5bo6bo8b2o3b2o7b2o6bo4bobo5bo9b2o5bobo5bo2bo5bo2bo7bobo3bobob2o4b2o5bobo9bo7bo9b2o7bo5b2o8b2o6bo2bo7b2o9bobo7bo5bobo6b2o2bo8bo5bo6$bo3bo3bo$obobobobobo$bo3bo3bo2$9bo$8bobo$9bo229bo5bo$238bo3bo3bo$bo3bo3bo227bo2b5o2bo$obobobobobo225bo4bobo4bo$bo3bo3bo66bo3bo55bo90b2o9bo2bobo2bo$76b5o55b3o88bo2bo7b3o3b3o$bo53bo2bo2bo12b2obobob2o33b2o5b2o13bo62bobo22b2o3b2o4b2o7b2o$obo46bobo4b5o6b2obo4b3ob3o6b2o6bobo15bo2bo5bo10b2o42bo23bo21b6ob2o5b3o3b3o$bo38bo8b3o4b2ob2o7b3o4bo5bo7bo7bo7bobo6b2o6b2o2bo6bo21b4o18b3o7bobobobo6bo3bo19bo2bob2o7bo2bobo2bo$38bobobo5b2o5b2o3b2o3bob2o6b3ob3o4bo3b2o3bo3bo4bobo5b2ob2o3b3ob3o6bo11bobo6b2o2b2o6b2o6bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo5bo3bo7b2o3b2o8b2o7bo4bobo4bo$bo3bo3bo5bo3b3o4bo4b4o4b3o4b3o7b2ob2o4b4o5b2obobob2o3b2o3bo3bo3bo3bobobo5b2o5bo2b2o5b2o10b4ob4o4bo2bo4bo6bo3b3o3b3o3bo2b3o2bo3b4ob4o6b2ob2o7bo2bo8bo2b5o2bo$obobobobobo4bo3b3o3b3o3b4o3bobobo4bo8b5o5bo9b5o7bo8bo6bobo4bo2bo8bo7bo10b4ob4o3b6o3b3o2b3o5bo3bo7bobobo6bo5bo4bobobobobobo5b2o10bo3bo3bo$bo3bo3bo5bo10bo13bo5b2o7bo2bo2bo3b2o9bo3bo7b2o6bobo4bobo5b2o9b2o7b2o12bobo8b2o7bo2bo7b2ob2o9bo7b2o5b2o4bo2b3o2bo6b2o11bo5bo6$bo3bo3bo$obobobobobo$bo3bo3bo2$9bo$8bobo$9bo2$bo3bo3bo15bo3bo3bo$obobobobobo13bobo5bobo$bo3bo3bo15b9o$26bo5bo$9bo16bobobobo$8bobo13bobo5bobo$9bo16bobobobo$15b2obo7bo5bo$bo3bo3bo4bobob2o5b9o$obobobobobo4b2obobo3bobo5bobo$bo3bo3bo6bob2o5bo3bo3bo6$bo$obo$bo3$bo7bo$obo5bobo$bo7bo2$bo3bo3bo$obobobobobo$bo3bo3bo2$9bo$8bobo6bo18bo$9bo7bo7b3o6bo7bo4b2o$14b2o2bo7bo7b4o4b3ob3o$9bo5bo2b2o3bobobobo4bob2o5bo2b3o$8bobo5bo9bo10bo9b2o$9bo6bo8b3o8bo6$bo3bo3bo$obobobobobo$bo3bo3bo2$bo$obo$bo2$bo3bo3bo$obobobobobo$bo3bo3bo$16bo$bo7bo6b2o$obo5bobo3b3obo$bo7bo5bo$16bob2o$bo3bo3bo8b2o$obobobobobo9bo$bo3bo3bo6$bo3bo3bo$obobobobobo$bo3bo3bo2$9bo$8bobo$9bo2$9bo$8bobo$9bo8b5o$17bo5bo$9bo7bo5bo$8bobo6bo5bo$9bo7bo5bo$17bo5bo7bo$9bo8b5o8b2o$8bobo20b3o$9bo6$bo3bo3bo$obobobobobo$bo3bo3bo2$bo7bo$obo5bobo$bo7bo2$bo3bo3bo$obobobobobo$bo3bo3bo$20bo$bo7bo10bo$obo5bobo7b3o$bo7bo7bob2o$17b2o2bo$bo3bo3bo5b4obo$obobobobobo8bo$bo3bo3bo6$bo5bo3bo3bo$obo3bobobobobobo$bo5bo3bo3bo2$bo5bo7bo$obo3bobo5bobo$bo5bo7bo2$bo5bo7bo$obo3bobo5bobo$bo5bo7bo$24bo$bo5bo7bo8b2o$obo3bobo5bobo4bo2bo$bo5bo7bo4b3o3bo$21bo2bo$bo5bo3bo3bo8b2o$obo3bobobobobobo7bo$bo5bo3bo3bo!

•Logic gates
•A jellyfish (or any other glider) (stable) reflector
•Circuitry
•Glider syntheses
•Oscillators of many, many periods (above p60 is impractical or unnecessary)
•A stable glider eater (oscillating is shown below)

x = 7, y = 16, rule = B368/S2452bo$2b2o$3obo$bo$2bob2o$4b2o$6bo7$o$2o$3o! Last edited by gmc_nxtman on July 20th, 2015, 11:13 am, edited 1 time in total. gmc_nxtman Posts: 1147 Joined: May 26th, 2015, 7:20 pm ### Re: Move/Morley (245/368) There have actually been several guns constructed in this rule that can be downloaded here. Rocknlol Posts: 83 Joined: April 15th, 2012, 9:06 am ### Re: Move/Morley (245/368) Extrementhusiast attempted to start a thread for this rule here and mentioned the existence of rakes and breeders in addition to guns. Additionally by Extrementhusiast, in the Glider Syntheses in Other Rules thread the first post contains syntheses for three spaceships in B36/S245. Only one of these works directly in B368/S245 - the 8J synthesis of the 4c/23 ship: x = 24, y = 27, rule = B368/S2455b2o10b2o$4bo14bo$3bobo12bobo$3bo2bo10bo2bo6$4b2o12b2o$3b4o10b4o$5b2o10b2o$5bo12bo3$7bo6bo2bo$6bobo6bobo$9bo6bo$8bo5b2o5$o2bo16bo2bo$obo18bobo$bo20bo$2b2o16b2o!

The 2J synthesis of the shuttle in B36/S245 results in the 13c/170 puffer instead:
x = 10, y = 7, rule = B368/S2458bo$7bobo$6bo$7bo$o$2o$3o!

I also noticed that the c/10 ship has appeared naturally in Catagolue. It appeared in this haul submitted on the 15th of May.
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wildmyron

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### Re: Move/Morley (245/368)

Go to Life-Like\Morley in Golly's pattern collection if you want to find rakes.
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### Re: Move/Morley (245/368)

Thanks!

Here is a somewhat sparky p7 with C4 symmetry:

x = 37, y = 17, rule = B368/S24513b2o15b2o$11b2o5bo9b2o5bo$13b2o3bo11b2o3bo$13b2ob2obo10b2ob2obo$16b2obo13b2obo$10bob2o13bob2o$10bob2ob2o10bob2ob2o$11bo3b2o11bo3b2o$11bo5b2o9bo5b2o$15b2o15b2o4$bo$obo$3bo$2bo! gmc_nxtman Posts: 1147 Joined: May 26th, 2015, 7:20 pm ### Re: Move/Morley (245/368) Probably useless p4: x = 26, y = 13, rule = B368/S24512bo4b2o$3b3o6b4obobo$9b3obobo3bobob2o$3bo2b5obob3o2bob2o2bo$2bobobo4bobob6ob2obo$3bo2b2o2b2o5b2ob3obo$o2b2o4bob2o9bo$3bo2b2o2b2o5b2ob3obo$2bobobo4bobob6ob2obo$3bo2b5obob3o2bob2o2bo$9b3obobo3bobob2o$3b3o6b4obobo$12bo4b2o! p5: x = 84, y = 10, rule = B368/S24523bobo13bobo35b2o$23b3o28b2o6b2o14bo$10bob2o6bobobob2o10bobobo12bo6bo15b2o$b2o3b3o2bo13bobo9bob3obo11b3o2b3o14b4o$b3o6b3o6b2o17b2ob2o11b3o4b3o16bo$2bo2b3o3b2o6b2o16b2o3b2o12bob2obo17bobo$2obo21bobo8b2o2b2ob2o9b3ob2ob3o16b2o$20bobobob2o6b3o2b3o2b3o7bo3bo2b2o15bob4o$23b3o8bobo4bo2bobo11b2o2bo14bob2o2bo$23bobo36b2o14bobo!

p6:
x = 66, y = 12, rule = B368/S24558bob2obo$3bo2bo50bob4obo$3b4o11b3o35bo2bo2bo2bo$2b2o2b2o11bo9b2o4bobo18bob6obo$b2o4b2o9bo3bo5bo7b2obo2bob3o10b2o4b2o$3bo2bo8bob2o2b2o5b2obobo2bob2ob3o3bo10bo4bo$3b4o8b2o2b2obo5b2obo2bo4b2obobo13b6o$15bo3bo8b2obobo2bob2ob3o3bo9b2o4b2o$2b2o2b2o10bo9bo7b2obo2bob3o12bo2bo$10o7b3o9b2o4bobo21bo2bo$bo2b2o2bo51b2o$2o6b2o! p9: x = 10, y = 10, rule = B368/S2454b2o$4b2o$4b2o$4b2o$4o2b4o$4o2b4o$4b2o$4b2o$4b2o$4b2o!

And a c/5 ship:
x = 8, y = 41, rule = B368/S2452bo$bobo2$2bo$2bo$bobobo$b4o$b2ob3o$3b3o$3bobo$bob3o$6b2o$2b2o$3bobobo$4bobo$5bo$3bobo$2bo$2obo$b4o$2bo$2bobob2o$2bo2bo$3bob2o$bo3b2o$bo2b3o$4b2o$2bo$b3o2$2b2o$4bo$3bo$b2obo2$o2b2o$bo4bo$3b2o$2o2bo$2bobo$2bobo! Still drifting. Bullet51 Posts: 529 Joined: July 21st, 2014, 4:35 am ### Re: Move/Morley (245/368) @Bullet51: Nice collection of oscillators. Any chance of a p7 discovery? The 7-cell extension of the Z pentomino is a stable Jellyfish eater: x = 8, y = 8, rule = B368/S2454b2o$5bo$5b3o$7bo2$o$2o$3o! It is inconceivable to me that this is a new discovery but none of Stephen Morley's site, Jason Summer's site, nor Dean Hickerson's pattern collection have available a collection of known reactions - only the pattern collections including guns, puffers and breeders. Does anyone know where other work in this rule may have been published? The latest version of the 5S Project contains over 196,000 spaceships. Tabulated pages up to period 160 are available on the LifeWiki. wildmyron Posts: 1209 Joined: August 9th, 2013, 12:45 am ### Re: Move/Morley (245/368) wildmyron wrote:Any chance of a p7 discovery? A pretty common one: http://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xp7 ... 4/b368s245 Edit: gmc_nxtman posted it some time ago. There are 10 types of people in the world: those who understand binary and those who don't. Alexey_Nigin Posts: 323 Joined: August 4th, 2014, 12:33 pm Location: Ann Arbor, MI ### Re: Move/Morley (245/368) Alexey_Nigin wrote: wildmyron wrote:Any chance of a p7 discovery? A pretty common one: http://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xp7 ... 4/b368s245 Edit: gmc_nxtman posted it some time ago. Hoping for further p7 discoveries to try bashing Jellyfish into. Here's one from JLS: x = 17, y = 17, rule = B368/S2452bo$2b3o$3o2bo$bo3bo$bo2b3obo$2b3ob4o$4b2o2b2o$5bobo2bo$4b3o2bobo$5b2obo2bo$7bo2bobo$8b2o2b2o$10b3ob3o$11bobo2bo$12bo3bo$12bo2bo$12b3o! On axis, it can eat the Jellyfish in three of seven phases: x = 87, y = 27, rule = B368/S2452bo29bo29bo$2b3o27b3o27b3o$3o2bo24b3o2bo24b3o2bo$bo3bo25bo3bo25bo3bo$bo2b3obo22bo2b3obo22bo2b3obo$2b3ob4o22b3ob4o22b3ob4o$4b2o2b2o24b2o2b2o24b2o2b2o$5bobo2bo24bobo2bo24bobo2bo$4b3o2bobo22b3o2bobo22b3o2bobo$5b2obo2bo23b2obo2bo23b2obo2bo$7bo2bobo24bo2bobo24bo2bobo$8b2o2b2o24b2o2b2o24b2o2b2o$10b3ob3o23b3ob3o23b3ob3o$11bobo2bo24bobo2bo24bobo2bo$12bo3bo25bo3bo25bo3bo$12bo2bo26bo2bo26bo2bo$12b3o27b3o27b3o7$24b2o29bo27bo2bo$23b4o27bobo27bobo$23b2o28bo31bo$24bo29bo28b2o! One other mildly interesting (but useless) reaction - decays into a puffer: x = 21, y = 26, rule = B368/S245$3bo$3b3o$b3o2bo$2bo3bo$2bo2b3obo$3b3ob4o$5b2o2b2o$6bobo2bo$5b3o2bobo$6b2obo2bo$8bo2bobo$9b2o2b2o$11b3ob3o$12bobo2bo$13bo3bo$13bo2bo$13b3o4$16b2o$15b4o$15b2o$16bo!
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wildmyron

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### Re: Move/Morley (245/368)

Useless p7 and p8 oscillators:
x = 48, y = 31, rule = B368/S2457bobobo24bobo2$10bo24bo3bo2$9bo26bobo2$8bo26bo3bo2$7bo28bobo2$44bobo$32b2o5bobobob2o$33bo5b2ob3o$28bo2bo6b2o2bo2bobo$7bo2b2o16b4obo2b3obo3b4o$5b3o3bo15b2obob2o3bo3b3obo$4bo2b4ob2o11b3o3bo5b2ob2ob3o$4bo3bob2obo12bo2b3o3bo3bobobo$3b3o2b2obo14b2obob2o3b2o9bo$5b4o2b2o12b2ob3ob11o2b3o$6bo2bob2o12b2o2bo3bobo2bob2o3bo$5bo3bo2b2o12b2o2bobob2o2b2o3bob3o$5bobobobo14bob2o3bo6bob2ob2o$2bo2b2obo2bo16b2ob2ob5o2b2obobo$2b4ob3o2b2o12bo2bo2b2ob2obob2o$2ob2obobob3o13b2o3bo2bo5b2o$obo2bobo4bo19bo3b2o2bo$4bob8o19b7ob3obobo$5bob2ob2o24bo2b2ob3ob2o$35bo2bo2bo3bo$36b2o2b2o2b2o! Still drifting. Bullet51 Posts: 529 Joined: July 21st, 2014, 4:35 am ### Re: Move/Morley (245/368) Is this P384 known? x = 48, y = 48, rule = B368/S24521b4o$21b4o20$14bobo14bobo12b2o$13b4o14b4o11b2o$2o11b2o18b2o11b2o$2o11b2o18b2o11b2o$2o11b4o14b4o$2o12bobo14bobo20$23b4o$23b4o!

Also, a P12 and a P14:
x = 42, y = 33, rule = B368/S245o3bobobo$22b4o3bo3b4o$o7bo14bo2bobobobo2bo$23bo2bobobobo2bo$o3bobobo13b4o3bo3b4o2$o3bo2$o3bobobo5$26b2obo4bob2o$24b6o4b6o$23bo2bo2b2o2b2o2bo2bo$23bo2bo2b2o2b2o2bo2bo$o3bo3bo13b8o4b8o$22b2o2bobo2b2o2bobo2b2o$o3bo3bo14bo2b2o8b2o2bo$22b5o10b5o$o3bobobo15b2o12b2o$27bo8bo$o7bo18bo8bo$24b2o12b2o$o7bo13b5o10b5o$23bo2b2o8b2o2bo$22b2o2bobo2b2o2bobo2b2o$22b8o4b8o$23bo2bo2b2o2b2o2bo2bo$23bo2bo2b2o2b2o2bo2bo$24b6o4b6o$26b2obo4bob2o!

Lewis

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### Re: Move/Morley (245/368)

Very nice!

I'm currently trying to find some width 12 period 4 c/2 spaceships with Afind. Here is my input file:

afind-0.5width 12period 4rule b368/s245offset 0slide 2

It seems to be running extremely slowly. Is there anything wrong with it?

gmc_nxtman

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### Re: Move/Morley (245/368)

A couple c/5 diagonal ships.
x = 74, y = 44, rule = B368/S24570bo$$70boo21bo46boobobo19boobbo43boboo18bobbo39boo7bo17bob4obo36boobb3obo15b5obobo36bobob4o14bobbob3obo38bobb3o14bo5bobo35bo3bobobo13b3o3b3o36boobo11bobobo4bo35bob3o3b5o10bobo3boobbo35bo6bo3boo11b3o3b3o35b3o4bo3bo9boobbooboo35boo7boo6boobobboboo36boo8b3o14bobo35boo6bo6bo6bobo36b3o5b3obbobb3obobboo40bo5booobobbobo43booboobboboboo4bobbo36b3obbob4obbobo3b3obo32bo3b3obbob3obboobo3bo34bo4bobboo3bobboo36boboobboboobb4oboo34boo3boob3o3boboobbo39bo7boo33bobo5bo8bo33bobo5bo43bo8bo38bobobo3boob3o38b3obobbo3bo36boboob4oboo36bobb4o34b5obboboo32bo3bobobb3o33boobobboob3o31bo4bo3bo31b3o3b6o31bo8bo30boo6bobo30boo4bobo31bo4bobbo32b6o33boo! Many ships listed here. -Josh Ball. velcrorex Posts: 339 Joined: November 1st, 2009, 1:33 pm ### Re: Move/Morley (245/368) gmc_nxtman wrote:I'm currently trying to find some width 12 period 4 c/2 spaceships with Afind. Here is my input file: afind-0.5width 12period 4rule b368/s245offset 0slide 2 It seems to be running extremely slowly. Is there anything wrong with it? I'm not sure I can comment on why the search is extremely slow, but you're not searching for width 12 spaceships. With slide=2 and offset=0 you are actually searching for very wide spaceships up to length 12 - you want offset=2 and slide=0. That may be part of the reason why it's running slowly, but I'm not familiar with p4 in Morley. Generally I find searches run particularly slowly when there are a lot of different, small, partial engines which the search can combine in a factorially large manner. In your sideways search it may be this short p2 c/2 ship which is causing the combinatorial explosion. Edited to add: velcorex wrote:A couple c/5 diagonal ships. Congratulations - a new velocity as far as I am aware. The latest version of the 5S Project contains over 196,000 spaceships. Tabulated pages up to period 160 are available on the LifeWiki. wildmyron Posts: 1209 Joined: August 9th, 2013, 12:45 am ### Re: Move/Morley (245/368) gmc_nxtman wrote:I'm currently trying to find some width 12 period 4 c/2 spaceships with Afind. I tried to find some c/2 ships.Do you mean ships like that? x = 34, y = 12, rule = B368/S24520bobo8bobo5bobo12bob2o6b2obo3bo5bo11b3o6b3o5bobo13b3o6b3oobobo3bobobo9b2obo2bob2oo11bo7bobob2o2b2obobob2o2b3o2b2o9bob8obo20bo4b4o4bo2bob2ob2obo10bobo2b2o2bobo3bobobobo12b4o2b4o4bobobo14bobo2bobo4b5o16b4o! Still drifting. Bullet51 Posts: 529 Joined: July 21st, 2014, 4:35 am ### Re: Move/Morley (245/368) velcrorex wrote:A couple c/5 diagonal ships. x = 74, y = 44, rule = B368/S24570bo$$70boo$21bo46boobobo$19boobbo43boboo$18bobbo39boo7bo$17bob4obo36boobb3obo$15b5obobo36bobob4o$14bobbob3obo38bobb3o$14bo5bobo35bo3bobobo$13b3o3b3o36boobo$11bobobo4bo35bob3o3b5o$10bobo3boobbo35bo6bo3boo$11b3o3b3o35b3o4bo3bo$9boobbooboo35boo7boo$6boobobboboo36boo8b3o$14bobo35boo6bo$6bo6bobo36b3o5b3o$bbobb3obobboo40bo5bo$oobobbobo43booboobbo$boboo4bobbo36b3obbob4o$bbobo3b3obo32bo3b3obbob3o$bboobo3bo34bo4bobboo$3bobboo36boboobboboo$bb4oboo34boo3boob3o$3boboobbo39bo$7boo33bobo5bo$8bo33bobo5bo$43bo8bo$38bobobo3boob3o$38b3obobbo3bo$36boboob4oboo$36bobb4o$34b5obboboo$32bo3bobobb3o$33boobobboob3o$31bo4bo3bo$31b3o3b6o$31bo8bo$30boo6bobo$30boo4bobo$31bo4bobbo$32b6o$33boo! Impressive! How did you succeed in finding those ships? Still drifting. Bullet51 Posts: 529 Joined: July 21st, 2014, 4:35 am ### Re: Move/Morley (245/368) 2c/6 ship: x = 17, y = 71, rule = B368/S2455bo5bo$4bobo3bobo$5bo5bo$5b2obob2o$6bobobo2$7bobo$7bobo$8bo2$5b7o$5bo2bo2bo$3bo4bo4bo$4bo7bo$3b11o$4bob2ob2obo$3bob3ob3obo$5bo5bo$4b3o3b3o$6b5o$8bo$3b2ob2ob2ob2o$5bobobobo$6bo3bo$6bo3bo$6bo3bo$6bo3bo$6bo3bo$6bo3bo$7bobo$7bobo$5b2o3b2o$7b3o$3bo3b3o3bo$3bobo5bobo$3b2o2bobo2b2o$3bo4bo4bo$4b2o5b2o$4bobo3bobo$4b3o3b3o$5bo2bo2bo$6bobobo$6bobobo$6bo3bo$8bo$4bo3bo3bo$4bobobobobo$8bo$5b2o3b2o$5b2o3b2o$2b2o2b5o2b2o$2b2o3b3o3b2o$2bobobobobobobo$5bo5bo$5bo5bo$3o11b3o$b5o5b5o$4b2o5b2o$3bo9bo$2bobobo3bobobo$3bo9bo$2b2obo5bob2o$2bo3bo3bo3bo$2bobob2ob2obobo$4b3o3b3o$2b4obobob4o$4bo2b3o2bo$5b2obob2o$7bobo$5b2o3b2o$6b5o! EDIT: The 2c/6 was found with some version of gfind. The c/5 diagonal, one from gfind, one from WinLifeSearch. Last edited by velcrorex on July 22nd, 2015, 4:34 pm, edited 1 time in total. -Josh Ball. velcrorex Posts: 339 Joined: November 1st, 2009, 1:33 pm ### Re: Move/Morley (245/368) Here's a variant of the previously posted c/2 glider: x = 14, y = 11, rule = B368/S245$11bo$8bo2bo$6bo2b4o$6bo3b2o$6b2o$3bob2o$3b2o$2b4o! Another: x = 18, y = 20, rule = B368/S2457$8b2o$9b5o$12bobo$10b5o$7b2o2bo$8b2obo$10b2o$9b4o! gmc_nxtman Posts: 1147 Joined: May 26th, 2015, 7:20 pm ### Re: Move/Morley (245/368) c/6 diagonal found with WLS x = 33, y = 33, rule = B368/S2452bo$b2o2bobo$2ob2o2b2o$2bo2bo3bo$2bob2o5bo$bob2ob4o$5bob2o2bobo$b2o2b2o2bobobo$2bo2b2o5b2o$3bobobob2o4bo$9b2o2bobobo$4bob2o8bobo$8bo7b3o$6b3obo5b2obo$16bo3b2o$9b2o5b2o$11b5o3bo2bo$10bob2obo2b5o$11b2o4bo4b3o$13bo2b2o4b2obo$14bo2bo2b6o$14bo2bo2bobo$16b8o$18b3ob2o2bo$18bobo3bobo$19b2o6bo3bo$23b2ob5obo$25b2ob2obo$26b2o$26b2o$26bo$25bobo$26bo! EDIT: And some various c/2 with p6 tails. Many variations seem possible. x = 222, y = 66, rule = B368/S24514$41bobo$40bo3bo132b2o$40b5o$14b3o23bobobo131bo2bo$13bobobo23b3o$13b5o22b2ob2o131b4o$14b3o25bo22bobo109b2o$15bo22bo2b3o2bo18bobo108bo2bo$15bo24bo3bo21bo66b2o19bo4bo17b2o$39b3ob3o20bo41b2o22bo2bo17bobo2bobo15bo2bo$14b3o24bobo22bo39b6o41b2o4b2o$15bo26bo64bo2bo43bo4bo$14bobo24bobo21bobo18b3o19b2o20bo6bo16b2o2b2o14bo6bo$66bo19b3o17bob2obo18b2ob2ob2o15b8o13b2ob2ob2o$15bo26bo23bo19b3o17bo4bo18bo2b2o2bo17b4o15bo2b2o2bo$15bo26bo23bo39bo4bo18b2ob2ob2o16b6o14b2ob2ob2o$15bo26bo23bo37b2o2b2o2b2o18b4o19bo2bo17b4o$15bo26bo20bo5bo14bob3obo14bo6bo17bobo2bobo16b2o2b2o14bobo2bobo$12bo5bo20bo5bo17bo5bo14b2obob2o14b3o2b3o17b8o16b2o2b2o14b8o$12bo5bo20bo5bo16b9o12b9o11bo2b2o2b2o2bo15bo2b2o2bo15bob4obo13bo2b2o2bo$11b9o18b9o16b2o3b2o17bo15bob2o4b2obo37bob6obo$12b2o3b2o20b2o3b2o19b3o35b2o2bo2bo2b2o16b2o2b2o14b2obo4bob2o12b2o2b2o$14b3o24b3o21bobo17b2ob2o12b2o2bo4bo2b2o14b3o2b3o14bo8bo12b3o2b3o$14bobo24bobo19b2o3b2o13b3o3b3o12bo8bo38b3o4b3o$12b2o3b2o20b2o3b2o17b2o3b2o11bo3bo3bo3bo12b2o2b2o18b2o4b2o14b2o6b2o12b2o4b2o$12b2o3b2o20b2o3b2o14b2o2b2ob2o2b2o9b2ob2ob2ob2o12b8o18bo4bo13b2ob2o4b2ob2o11bo4bo$9b2o2b2ob2o2b2o14b2o2b2ob2o2b2o12b2obo3bob2o10b2o7b2o15b2o18b3o6b3o11bobo6bobo9b3o6b3o$10b2obo3bob2o16b2obo3bob2o13b2o7b2o9b2obo5bob2o14b2o19b2obo2bob2o13b2obo2bob2o11b2obo2bob2o$10b2o7b2o16b2o7b2o12b2o2bo3bo2b2o9bob3ob3obo14bo2bo16bobob2o2b2obobo11b2obo2bob2o9bobob2o2b2obobo$9b2o2bo3bo2b2o14b2o2bo3bo2b2o13bo2bobo2bo13bo5bo14bo6bo15bob8obo10bobobo4bobobo8bob8obo$11bo2bobo2bo18bo2bobo2bo17bo3bo16bo3bo16bo4bo15bo4b4o4bo9b2obobo2bobob2o7bo4b4o4bo$13bo3bo22bo3bo19b2ob2o13bo3bobo3bo10bo3bo2bo3bo13bobo2b2o2bobo11bo4b2o4bo9bobo2b2o2bobo$13b2ob2o22b2ob2o16bob2o3b2obo10bo2bo3bo2bo10bo2bo4bo2bo14b4o2b4o13b3o4b3o11b4o2b4o$10bob2o3b2obo16bob2o3b2obo13b2o7b2o9b4o5b4o8b4o6b4o14bobo2bobo14bob2o2b2obo12bobo2bobo$10b2o7b2o16b2o7b2o12b4o5b4o9b2o7b2o10b2o8b2o17b4o18b2o2b2o16b4o$9b4o5b4o14b4o5b4o107b2o! -Josh Ball. velcrorex Posts: 339 Joined: November 1st, 2009, 1:33 pm ### Re: Move/Morley (245/368) Small c/4 diagonal ships: x = 31, y = 28, rule = B368/S24523bo$24bo$21b2o$17bobobo$16b2o2bo$16b4o$14b2o3bo$14bo$12b2o$11b3o$10bo2b2o$9b4o$10b2obo$8b2o$4bo3bo$2bo2b2o$ob2ob2o15b2o$bob2o17bo$b3ob3o12bo2bo$21bo$20bo2bob2o$19b3ob2obo$19bobo2b2o$21b3ob2obobo$21bobo5b2o$21b5obo$25b2obo$24b2o!

Two extensible c/3 ships:
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A p8 which is always 18 cells:
x = 6, y = 8, rule = B368/S2454b2o$4bo$2b3o$4obo$o3bo$2b2o$3bo$3b2o! Still drifting. Bullet51 Posts: 529 Joined: July 21st, 2014, 4:35 am ### Re: Move/Morley (245/368) Some other oscillators: x = 34, y = 30, rule = B368/S2457bobobo16bobo2$10bo16bo3bo2$9bo18bobo2$8bo18bo3bo2$7bo20bobo3$21b2o$21bo2b2o3b2o$obo20b5o2bo2bo$2obo21bobob5o$2b4o20b3ob2o$2bobo2bobo17bo$b3ob2ob2o15bobo$3bob2o2b3o13b2o4bobo$3b3ob2o2bo11b2ob2o2bob2o$5bo16bo3bobo2bo$3b3o17b2ob2o2bob2o$4b2obo17b2o4bobo$3bo2b2o17bobo$3bobo21bo$2obobo20b3ob2o$bo2bo20bobob5o$2o21b5o2bo2bo$21bo2b2o3b2o$21b2o!
Still drifting.
Bullet51

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### Re: Move/Morley (245/368)

velcrorex wrote:c/6 diagonal found with WLS
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Congratulations again! I thought c/6 looked pretty promising but my search was not quite wide enough. There are quite a few narrower frontends at this speed which can probably be completed with wider backends, but I haven't completed that search yet.

velcrorex wrote:And some various c/2 with p6 tails. Many variations seem possible.
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Indeed quite a bit of variation there. What do you think of the likelyhood of finding a puffer at p8, p10 or p12? There are plenty of 3 cell wide patterns which could be puffed at any period from p8 up.
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wildmyron

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### Re: Move/Morley (245/368)

A breeder based on the enterprise gun (in Golly's pattern collection):
x = 753, y = 619, rule = 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Definitely sub-optimal. x₁=ηx V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη) K=(Λu²)/2 Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt) $$x_1=\eta x$$ $$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$ $$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$ $$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$ http://conwaylife.com/wiki/A_for_all Aidan F. Pierce A for awesome Posts: 1861 Joined: September 13th, 2014, 5:36 pm Location: 0x-1 ### Re: Move/Morley (245/368) It seems like WLS is better at finding spaceships than oscillators in this rule, so I have some useless (and pointless) spaceships and to oscillators: c/2: x = 26, y = 55, rule = B368/S245bo$b3o$b2o$bobo2$2bo2bo$bo2b2o$2o4bo$5o$bobo2$2bo$bo$2o$4o$bo3$3b2o2bo4bo2bo5bo2bo$2b2ob2o4b3obo5b3obo$obob2o5b2o5b2o3bo$2o2b2obo4bo4bob2ob2obo$3o4bob4o2bobob2o3bo$o4b6obo$6bobobo2bo4$3bo2bo5bo$2bobobo$bo3b3ob3obo$2o6bo$4o2b5ob2o$bo5bobo$11bo$bo5bobo$4o2b5ob2o$2o6bo$bo3b3ob3obo$2bobobo$3bo2bo5bo5$4bo2bobo$4b4ob3o$3bob2o$2b2ob2o$4bob2o$2bo2b2o$bo3b3o$2o3bobo$4o2bo$bo!

And of course...
A pointlessly huge c/2:
x = 49, y = 25, rule = B368/S245bo6bo26bob2obo$4o4b2o2bobo6bo12b2ob4o$2o5bobobob2o5b4o8bo3b2ob3o$bo4b2ob3obo6b2o9b3o3bob2o$2bob2o2b2o3bo3b2obo8bobo2b3o3bo3bo$5bo5b3ob4o10b2o4bo5bobo$bob2obo4b2o2bob2o6bo3b3o3b4o3bo2bo$4o7bo4b5ob2ob3o2bo3b3o$2o4bo5bo4b3obob2ob3o3b5ob2o4bobo$bo3b3o2b2o7bobobob2o2b3obob5o2b2o$2bob3o4bob2o5b2ob2o3bo12bo2bo$3bo3bobo5bobo2b3o3bo2b3o4b3obob3o$6bobo2bob2obo3b2obo3bo2b2o4bobob4o$3bo3bo2bo2bo5b2obo3bo4bobobo2bo3b3o$2bob3o2bo4bobob2o6b4ob2o2b2obo5bo$bo3b3o7bo2bob2o3bob2ob4ob2o$2o4bo6b7ob2o2bo3b2o3bo2bo2bo5bo$4o10b4o5bo3bobo2b2obo3bo5bo$bob2obo4bo4b2ob2o2b3o2b3o4bobo2bo2b2o2bo$5bo5b3ob2o2b2o2b2ob7o3bo3b2o$2bob2o2b2o3b5o2bo2b2obo2bobo2bob2o2b3o3bobo$bo4b2ob4o3bo4b2o5bo4bo2bo5bo3b2o$2o5bobo4bobo5b5ob3obob3o4b2obo$4o4b2ob2obo5b5obo2b2o2b2o8bo$bo6bo3bobo6bo4bo6b2o!

c/3:
x = 49, y = 39, rule = B368/S245bobo2b2ob3o2bo$b2o2b3o4b2o$3obo3b3obo$3obo3b3obo$b2o2b3o4b2o$bobo2b2ob3o2bo4$b2o2b2o3bo9bob2o$2o2bo3b3o3bo3bob3o$2ob7o2b2obo3bo2b4o$2ob7o2b2o2bob3o$2o2bo3b3o3bo2bo$b2o2b2o3bo4bo2bo$16bobo4$2bobo3bo10bobobo6bo16b2o$b4o4bo10b2o2bob3ob5ob2o8bo$b2o4bo4b3o2bobob6ob4ob2ob2o7bo$bo2b2ob3o4b3o2bobob2o2bo2b3o3b3o6bobo$3b2ob2ob2ob2obobo2bo2b3o2bobo4bo3bo4bobo$5ob3o3b2o3bobobo3b5o3bo5b2obo2bo$2obob5o4bob4o8b3ob3obo5b2o$b6obobobobob2obo8bo6b3o2bo4bo$bo2bob3ob3obo22b3o3bo$6bo5bo3$b3o$2b2o2bo$5bo$2bobo$b2o$b2o2bo$b3obo$2bob2o!

p2:
x = 14, y = 10, rule = B368/S2455b2o$3bob2ob2obo$4b2ob2obo$3bobo2b4obo$2b2ob2o3b2obo$2b4o4bo2bo$b3o6bo$ob2o3b2o2bo$2o3b2ob2o$b2o4b2o! p3: x = 14, y = 10, rule = B368/S2455bobobo$2o3b3ob3o$bo2bo2b4o$b2o5bo3bo$ob5o3b2obo$2o2bobo4b2o$2b2obo2bo2bo$2ob2o3b5o$3o8bobo$b2o9bo!
If you're the person that uploaded to Sakagolue illegally, please PM me.
x = 17, y = 10, rule = B3/S23b2ob2obo5b2o$11b4obo$2bob3o2bo2b3o$bo3b2o4b2o$o2bo2bob2o3b4o$bob2obo5bo2b2o$2b2o4bobo2b3o$bo3b5ob2obobo$2bo5bob2o$4bob2o2bobobo! (Check gen 2) Saka Posts: 3076 Joined: June 19th, 2015, 8:50 pm Location: In the kingdom of Sultan Hamengkubuwono X ### Re: Move/Morley (245/368) A c/3 diagonal ship, but very short and wide. x = 160, y = 128, rule = B368/S24529$131b2o$133bo$122bo2bo7bo$122bob3obo2bo$123bobobo2b2o$124b3o4bo$127bob3o$125b6o$118b3o4b2obo$117bo2bo2b2o$117b2o4bo$119b2ob3o$118b3obo$113bo4b2ob3o$113bobo4b2o$114b5o2bo$113b2o4b3o$114bo4b2o$105b2o2bob3o2b3o$107b2o3b2o2b3o$109bob3o2b2o$108b2o4b2o$106b2o3b2ob2o$105bobobo2b3o$105b4o$106bobo$105b2o$100bo5bo$100bob5o$103b3o$99bo2bo$97b2o4bo$101bo$96b2o2b2o$94b4o3bo$88bo5b2o3b3o$88bo6b2ob3o$90b2obo4bo$90bo4b2o$87bo2bob3obo$91bo2b3o$89b2o$85bob3o$87b2o2bo$83bo3bo3b2o$86bo2b4o$80bo2b3o4b2o$76b2o5b2o$82b2o2bo$78b3obo3b2o$78bo2bo2b4o$80bo4b2o$78bobo$75b2o3b2o$75b3obobo$74b2obob3o$72bob2o$72bo4b2o$71bo4b2o$68b2o4bob2o$73b4o$69bobo$69b2obo$69b2o$59bo4b2obob2o$59bo3bob5o$60bo2b3o$60bobo2b2o$59bob2obo2$59bobobo$59b3ob2o$54b2obob3o2bo$56b3o3b3o$55b2o5b2o$56bo2b3o$50b2o4bo2b3o$49bobob2obo2b2o$49bo2b3o2b2o$49b2ob2obob2o$54b4o$43b2o7b3o$45bo4b3obo$44bobo3bobo$43b4ob2o$44bobob2o$45bob2o$44bo3b2o$47b2o$45bob2o$41bo2b4o$41bo\$42b2o!
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