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Re: tlife

Postby M. I. Wright » September 26th, 2015, 10:24 pm

Nice, how did you find it? Wonder if it could be supported with gliders or even stretched (by the way, are rakes or rakes looking likely in this rule? I never got around to using Paul Tooke's gfind, but if a sparky ship was found it might lead the way to puffers and such)

orthogonal UC salvos - the only one I'm really happy with is the pull salvo and maybe the one that fires a glider backwards, but otherwise I have a feeling they could all be reduced:
x = 87, y = 126, rule = tlife
74bo$73b2o$62bo11bo$8bo9bobo40b2o$2o5b2o8bo2bo41bo$2o6bo9bobo26bo37bo$
34bobo9b2o36b2o$33bo2bo10bo37bo$34bobo12$14bo9bobo$6b2o5b2o8bo2bo37bo$
6b2o6bo9bobo36b2o$40bobo13bo7bo$39bo2bo12b2o$40bobo13bo22$24bo$23b2o$
9bo5bo8bo$2o6b2o4b2o33bo$2o7bo5bo32b2o$49bo3$35bo$34b2o$35bo24b2o$60b
3o$60b2o22$25bo$24b2o$10bo5bo8bo$b2o6b2o4b2o33bo$b2o7bo5bo32b2o15bo$
50bo15b3o$66bo2$36bo$35b2o$36bo42bo6bo$78b2o5b2o$79bo6bo20$28bo$27b2o$
28bo2$28bo$27b2o$28bo2$16bo$7b2o6b2o$7b2o7bo10bo$26b2o$27bo!


A neat infinite-growth pattern - like Life's bricklayer, but simpler and not timing-dependent:
x = 124, y = 98, rule = tlife
39bo$38bobo$22bo14b2ob2o$21b3o14bo2bo$20bo18b2o$21bo3$29b3o$30bo2$49bo
bo$6b2o41bobo$5b3o42bo11bo$63bo$10bo6b3o24b2obobo11b2obo$2ob2o5bo9bo
23b2obobo$2ob3o10bo3bo24b2o3bo9b2o$2bo2bo11bo29b2obo9bobo$3b2obo10bo
32bo9bobo$4bobo10bo30b2o$4b2o11bo2bo5$38b2o$38bo$36bobo$36b2o8b2o$47bo
$23b3o21bobo$22b2ob2o21b2o$21bobob2o$20b4o37bo$20bob6o31b2ob2o$20bo2bo
b3o30bo3bo2bo$23bo2b2o33bo2bo$22b3o32bo5bobo$58b3obo2bo$37bo21bob2obo
29b2o$38b2o22bo28b5o$37b2o$47bo$47bobo$47b2o2$5b2o8bo$5b2o7b2o$15bo3$
91bo$47bo42bobo$46b2o42bobo$47bo43bo3$122b2o$115b3o3bo$114bo3b2o2b2o$
114bobo$116bob2o$117bo$117b3o$118b2o4$100b2o$99bobo$99bo$98b2o6b3o$
106b3o$107bo12$97bo$96bobo$99bo16bo$96bob2o14bo2bo$92b2o4bob2o11b2o3bo
$94bo6bo9b2o4bo$92b3o4bobo12bob2o$111b2o$96b2o$117bo$95bobo18bobo$96bo
!


EDIT: The p160 beehive hassler I posted earlier can turn a block into a glider, making for an interesting glider gun with the help of a T->block reaction:
x = 33, y = 40, rule = tlife
2bo$b3o16bo$o18bobo8bo$bo17bobo7bo$20bo9b3o$31bo13$25bo$24bobo$23b2o$
24bo3$18bo$18bo$17bobo2$18bo6$26bo$11bo13bobo$11bo13bob2o$11bo14b2o$
10b2o$10b2o!

It's too large to be useful, though.

Sparky 180-degree reflector:
x = 12, y = 16, rule = tlife
9bo$8b3o$11bo$10bo11$bo$3o!


I guess this counts as a heisenburp?
x = 12, y = 17, rule = tlife
9bo$8b3o$11bo$10bo11$3o$bo$bo!
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Re: tlife

Postby M. I. Wright » September 27th, 2015, 12:35 pm

An attempt to sort every collision between two ants (my name for the 'alt glider') by output type:
x = 468, y = 363, rule = tlife
389bo7bo4bo3bo2$389bo5bo3bo2bobobo2$389bo5bo3bo2bobobo2$389bo5bo3bo2bo
3bo2$389bobobo3bo4bo3bo$384bo26bo2$384bo26bo2$384bo26bo2$384bo26bo2$
384bo26bo$57bo$56bobo89bo51bo183bo26bo$56bob2o87bobo24bo24bobo66bo30bo
88bo$59bo16bo14bo29bo25bob2o14b2o6bobo15bo7bob2o32bo31bobo28bobo57bo
25bo2bobo21bo$74b2obo12bobo27bobo27bo13b2o7bob2o13bobo9bo31bobo30bob2o
27bob2o29bo25bobo27bob2o$74b2o14bob2o26bob2o15bo23bo12bo12b2obo27b2o
12bob2o32bo30bo28bobo14b3o7bob2o16bo12bo17bo7bo$74b2o17bo16bo12bo14bob
o23b2o23bo29b2o16bo49b3o40bob2o13b3o10bo14b2obo27b2obo5bobo30bo$109bob
o25b2obo77bo35b3o30b3o29b3o11bo12bo28b2o29b2o7bob2o14b3o11bobo16bo$
108b2obo25bo81b2o33b3o29bo32b3o25bo27b2o29b2o10bo14b3o11bob2o14bobo$
108bo144bo33bo30bo113bo17bo13b2obo$254bo64bo113bo30bo4$bo4bo3bobo3bobo
bo2bo3bo3bo3bo4bo4bobo2$bobo2bo2bo3bo4bo4bo3bo3bo3bobo2bo2bo2$bo2bobo
2bo3bo4bo4bobobo3bo3bo2bobo2bo2bobo2$bo4bo2bo3bo4bo4bo3bo3bo3bo4bo2bo
4bo2$bo4bo3bobo5bo4bo3bo3bo3bo4bo4bobo15b2o18bo$62bo20b2obo$63b2o19bob
o$64b2o19bo41bo37bo21bo20bo21bo$109bo16bo17bo19bo22b2obo16bo22b2obo16b
o$109b2obo14b3o14b2obo17b3o20bobo17b3o20bobo15bo17bo19b2o$110bobo14b3o
15bobo17b3o21bo18b3o21bo17b3o14b2obo15bo$111bo34bo103b3o15bobo16b2o$
269bo18b2o5$77bo$56bo19bobo$55bobo18bob2o$55bob2o20bo95bo43bo$58bo43bo
18bo12bo17bo21bobo19bo21bobo$101bobo16bobo10bobo15bobo20bob2o17bobo20b
ob2o20bo16bo$101bob2o15bob2o9bob2o14bob2o22bo17bob2o22bo19bobo14bobo
16bo$104bo18bo12bo17bo43bo42bob2o13bob2o14bobo$244bo16bo14bob2o$279bo
29$42bo16bo5bo47bo$41bobo14bobo3bobo15b2o5bo22bobo15bo6bo25bo52bo30bo$
41bob2o12b2obo3bob2o13b2o5bobo21bob2o12b2obo4bobo23bobo13b3o34bobo28bo
bo134bo$44bo12bo9bo12bo7bob2o13b3o7bo12b2o6bob2o15bo6bob2o12b3o11bo22b
ob2o27bob2o132bobo$81b2o8bo13b3o20b2o9bo13b2obo8bo11bo13bobo24bo30bo
54bo3bo3bo3bo3bo2bobobo11bobo3bo6bo3bobo4bobobo2bobo9bob2o$104bo48b2o
23bo12bob2o40b2o137bo10bo$105bo47b2o39bo15b2o22b2o32bo35bo3bo3bo3bo3bo
2bo8bo4bo7bo6bo3bo3bo2bo6bo$209b2o22bo33bobo104bo29b2o$208bo25b2o30b2o
bo34bobobo3bo3bo3bo2bobobo2bobobo2bo2bobo2bo6bo3bo3bo2bobobo2bobo30b2o
$209b2o55bo135bo$77b2o225bo3bo3bo4bobo3bo8bo4bo4bo2bo6bo3bo3bo2bo6bo2b
o29b2o$76bo17bo16b2o295bo$77b2o14bo16bo193bo3bo3bo5bo4bobobo11bobo3bob
obo2bo3bobo4bobobo2bo3bo33b2o$78b2o14b3o14b2o$94b3o15b2o3$bobo4bo7bobo
4bobo3bo3bo2$bo3bo2bo6bo3bo2bo3bo2bo2bo2$bobo4bo6bo3bo2bo6bobo2$bo3bo
2bo6bo3bo2bo3bo2bo2bo$66bo$bobo4bobobo3bobo4bobo3bo3bo31bobo17bo17bo$
65bob2o15bobo15bobo$68bo15bob2o14bob2o$87bo17bo3$98b2o$99bo$143bo$143b
2o$407bo$407b2o16bo$303bobobo116bo$425b3o$305bo9bo109b3o$314bobo27bo$
305bo8bob2o26b2o34bo$317bo14b3o15bo28bobo$305bo26b3o14bobo27bob2o$323b
o7bo17bob2o29bo$305bo17b2o7bo19bo17bo$369bobo30bo$2bobo3bo6bo3bobo4bob
obo2bobo13bo29bo41bobo244b2obo28b2obo$37bo10bobo27bobo287bo31b2o$o7bo
6bo3bo3bo2bo6bo14bob2o26bob2o38bo3bo5bo269b2o$37bo13bo29bo30bo3bo12bob
o16bo266bo$o2bobo2bo6bo3bo3bo2bobobo2bobo64bo12bobo7bo5bob2o13b2obo
264bobo$69b2o28bobo12bo6bo10bo13b2o266bob2o$o4bo2bo6bo3bo3bo2bo6bo2bo
31b2o28b2obo11bobo30b2o269bo$43bo23bo30bo13bo3bo2bobobo$2bobo3bobobo2b
o3bobo4bobobo2bo3bo5b2o23b2o6$420bo$420b2o2$127bo$127b2o7$53b2o$52bo$
53b2o302b2o$54b2o242bobo4bo4bobo43bo$357b2o$obo5bobo5bo4bobobo270bo7bo
bo3bo3bo43b2o2$o3bo2bo3bo3bobo5bo272bo6bo3bo2bobo7bo$319bobo$obo4bo3bo
2bo3bo4bo272bo6bobobo2bo8bob2o15b2o$322bo14b2o$o3bo2bo3bo2bobobo4bo
274bobo2bo3bo2bo25bo$337b2o$obo5bobo3bo3bo4bo$40bo$39bobo$39bob2o308bo
$42bo307bobo$350bob2o$353bo13$54b2o$53bo$54b2o$3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo2bobobo
28b2o$419bo$3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo2bo322b2o72b2o$346bo31b2o$3bobobo3bo3bo3bo
2bobobo352bo$100bo$3bo3bo3bo4bobo3bo51bo24bobo$73bobo23bob2o32bo$3bo3b
o3bo5bo4bobobo46bob2o25bo31bobo$76bo15b3o39bob2o$92b3o42bo$42bo48bo30b
2o31bo$41bobo48bo28b2o31bobo$41bob2o75bo32b2obo$44bo76b2o30bo4$293bo5b
o2bobobo3bobo3bobo2$293bobobobo2bo6bo5bo2$293bo2bo2bo2bobobo3bobo3bobo
2$293bo5bo2bo10bo5bo2$293bo5bo2bobobo3bobo3bobo4$4bo6bobo5bo4bobobo
274bo$46bo$4bo5bo3bo3bobo3bo20bobo255bo35bo30bo$45bob2o24bo264bobo28bo
bo$4bo5bo3bo2bo3bo2bobobo19bo23bobo228bo34bob2o16bo10bob2o40bo$64b3o5b
ob2o265bo15bobo12bo39bobo$4bo5bo3bo2bobobo2bo39b3o8bo227bo52b2obo30bo
21bob2o$63bo292bo31b2obo23bo$4bobobo2bobo3bo3bo2bo39bo238bo84b2o$94b2o
292b2o$93b2o208bo130b3o$92bo341b3o$93b2o208bo129bo$434bo$303bo2$303bo$
413bobo5bobo5bo4bobobo$303bo$408bo4bo3bo2bo3bo3bobo5bo$303bo$406bobobo
2bobo4bo3bo2bo3bo4bo$303bo$408bo4bo3bo2bo3bo2bobobo4bo$303bo$47b2o364b
obo5bobo3bo3bo4bo$46bo256bo$47b2o$48b2o253bo2$3bobobo2bo3bo2bobo283bo
2$5bo4bo3bo2bo3bo281bo2$5bo4bo3bo2bobo283bo2$5bo4bo3bo2bo3bo39bo241bo
88bo$60bobo329b2o$5bo5bobo3bobo40bob2o239bo$33bo29bo290b2o$32bobo268bo
49bo$32bob2o318b2o$35bo45b3o219bo51b2o$81b3o$80bo222bo$81bo$303bo2$
303bo7bo5bo3bo3bobo4bobo2$303bo7bobobobo3bo2bo6bo3bo2$303bobobo3bo2bo
2bo3bo3bobo3bo$345bo$311bo5bo3bo6bo2bo3bo8bobo$344bob2o$52bo258bo5bo3b
o3bobo4bobo12bo$51bo$52b3o$52b3o$2bobo5bobo3bo4bo2bobo$6bo$2bo6bo3bo2b
obo2bo2bo3bo$6bo$2bobo4bo3bo2bo2bobo2bo3bo2$2bo6bo3bo2bo4bo2bo3bo357bo
$68bo316bobo$2bo7bobo3bo4bo2bobo40bobo14b2o299bob2o$67bob2o12b2o303bo$
41bo28bo11bo227bo$40bobo40b2o224b2o97bo$40bob2o363bobo$43bo362b2obo$
406bo16$2bobo5bo7bo3bo3bo3bo3bo2bobobo2$2bo3bo3bo7bo3bo3bo3bo3bo2bo2$
2bobo5bo2bobo2bobobo3bo3bo3bo2bobobo$52bo15bo$2bo3bo3bo7bo3bo3bo4bobo
3bo13bobo13bobo$51bob2o11b2obo$2bobo5bo7bo3bo3bo5bo4bobobo12bo11bo153b
o$220b2o12$58bo$58b2o2$42bo$42b2obo31bo$43bobo30bo26bo$44bo32b3o23b2ob
o$bo5bo3bo3bobo4bobo52b3o24bobo$105bo$bobobobo3bo2bo6bo3bo2$bo2bo2bo3b
o3bobo3bo155bo$148bo27bobo$bo5bo3bo6bo2bo3bo93bo27bobo26bob2o$118bobo
26bob2o28bo$bo5bo3bo3bobo4bobo93bob2o28bo$37bo83bo16b2o58bo10bo$36bobo
98b2o28b3o26b2obo8bobo$36bob2o30bo23bo41bo30b3o26b2o10bob2o$39bo29bobo
21bobo41b2o27bo29b2o13bo$69bob2o20bob2o70bo62bo$72bo23bo131b2obo$228b
2o$228b2o!


The first two 'mess' collisions create this object, a 228-generation methuselah:
x = 4, y = 5, rule = tlife
2o$b2o$3bo$obo$bo!

The third collision creates a different methuselah -
x = 4, y = 4, rule = tlife
3o$2b2o$bobo$2bo!
- that evolves into the first along with a boat (see gen 23, or gen 123 in the collision collection - the junk at the bottom becomes a boat in 5 ticks without affecting the rest of the pattern). Interestingly, although the second methuselah waits 23 generations before becoming the first, it actually stabilizes quicker - 221 ticks.
The other two mess collisions (labeled 'misc' on the second row) are unrelated, lasting 488 and 139 generations respectively after colliding.

2T collisions sorted:
x = 295, y = 223, rule = tlife
278bo$238bo14bo24b2o8bo$220bo17b2o13b2o9bo13bo9b2o$58bo34bo15bo16bo72b
o11bo8b2o16bo14bo10b2o22bo$58b2o17bo15b2o14b2o15b2o25bo34bo10b2o10b2o
7bo43bo$58bo18b2o14bo15bo16bo10bo15b2o16bo16b2o9bo11bo$77bo59b2o14bo
17b2o15bo104bo$137bo33bo95bo24bobo$156bo110bo$155bobo16bo15b3o73bobo
23b3o$96bo32bo9b3o32bo16bo9b3o10bo26bo$60b3o17bo15bo14b3o14b3o8b3o13b
3o15bobo15bo10bo10b3o7bo17bo13b3o9bo12b3o$60b3o16bobo13bobo14bo27bo61b
o19bobo15bobo13bo24bo$61bo50bo61bo81bo24bo$79b3o14bo125b3o16bo2$o4bo3b
obo3bobobo2bo3bo3bo3bo4bo4bobo2$obo2bo2bo3bo4bo4bo3bo3bo3bobo2bo2bo2$o
2bobo2bo3bo4bo4bobobo3bo3bo2bobo2bo2bobo2$o4bo2bo3bo4bo4bo3bo3bo3bo4bo
2bo4bo24bo$60b3o8b3o9bo$o4bo3bobo5bo4bo3bo3bo3bo4bo4bobo14bo9b3o17b3o
128bo$82bobo7bo45bo62bo11b3o$83bo31b3o9b3o7b3o7b3o11bo22b3o13b3o18bobo
$83bo17b3o12bo11bo8b3o34bo10bo14b3o10bobo6bo15bo$102bo44bobo10bobo11bo
39bo7bo15bo21b3o8bo$148bo12bo11b3o61b3o8b3o10bo$161bo87bo20bobo$271bo$
271bo5$105bo14bo8bo9bo$104b3o12b3o6b3o7b3o8bo$148b3o11bo12bo$63bo10bo
19bo66b3o10b3o$62b3o8b3o17b3o$85bo$84b3o101bo15bo9bo7bo$187b3o13b3o7b
3o5b3o$238bo10bo11bo$237b3o8b3o9b3o$274bo$273b3o2$54bo19bo14bo26bo19bo
$54b2o18b2o13b2o25b2o18b2o30b3o$54bo19bo14bo12bo13bo19bo32bo$102b2o$
45bo56bo50bobobo$45b2o133bo$45bo109bo24b2o$123bo56bo$57bo19bo26b3o16bo
31bo$48bo7bobo18bo13b3o10b3o15bobo$47b3o26bobo13bo12bo33bo15bo$56b3o
33bo30bo14b3o$77bo77bo2$2bobo4bo7bobo4bobo3bo3bo151bo$185bobo$2bo3bo2b
o6bo3bo2bo3bo2bo2bo$46bo12b3o8b3o112b3o$2bobo4bo6bo3bo2bo6bobo12b3o
122b3o$45b3o11bobo8bobo98bo$2bo3bo2bo6bo3bo2bo3bo2bo2bo26bo10bo99bo2$
2bobo4bobobo3bobo4bobo3bo3bo11$187bo$153bobo6bo6bo6bo10b2o$50bo11bo12b
o81bo2bo6bo3bo2bo3bo8bo$49b3o9b3o10b3o76bo8bo$157bo9bo6bo3bo$153bobo6b
o6bo$167bo3bo2bo3bo11bo$153bo8bo27bo$167bo3bo2bo3bo10bobo$153bo6bobobo
4bo6bo$190bo$3bobo3bo6bo3bobo4bobobo2bobo7bo17bo$38bo5b2o16b2o$bo7bo6b
o3bo3bo2bo6bo9bo17bo$38bo$bo2bobo2bo6bo3bo3bo2bobobo2bobo2$bo4bo2bo6bo
3bo3bo2bo6bo2bo2$3bobo3bobobo2bo3bobo4bobobo2bo3bo12bo$50b3o$64b3o$64b
3o$65bo9$225bo$225b2o$225bo$152bo3bo3bo3bo3bo2bobobo9bobo4bo7bobo4bobo
3bo3bo2$152bo3bo3bo3bo3bo2bo8bo4bo3bo2bo6bo3bo2bo3bo2bo2bo2$152bobobo
3bo3bo3bo2bobobo2bobobo2bobo4bo6bo3bo2bo6bobo2$152bo3bo3bo4bobo3bo8bo
4bo3bo2bo6bo3bo2bo3bo2bo2bo$228bo$152bo3bo3bo5bo4bobobo9bobo4bobobo3bo
bo4bobo3bo3bo10bo$3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo2bobobo200bobo$70bo$3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo2b
o14bo17bo14b2o16bo139bo$37b2o16b2o13bo17bo$3bobobo3bo3bo3bo2bobobo10bo
17bo31b3o2$3bo3bo3bo4bobo3bo2$3bo3bo3bo5bo4bobobo$39b3o$39b3o16bo13b3o
16bo$40bo16b3o12b3o15b3o$73bo8$153bobo3bo3bo3bo2bobo$174bo$152bo6bo3bo
3bo2bo14bo$174bo10b2o$39bo113bobo3bobobo3bo2bobo12bo2$38bobo115bo2bo3b
o3bo2bo$39bo$39bo113bobo3bo3bo3bo2bo$55bo12bo123bo$4bo6bobo5bo4bobobo
26b2o11b2o121b3o$55bo12bo$4bo5bo3bo3bobo3bo2$4bo5bo3bo2bo3bo2bobobo2$
4bo5bo3bo2bobobo2bo$74b3o$4bobobo2bobo3bo3bo2bo33bo16bo$57b3o15bo4$43b
o$42b3o7$185bo$184b3o15b3o14bo$184b3o7b3o22bo$195bo6bobo13b3o16b3o$
203bo34bo3$150bo5bo3bo3bobo4bobo$250bo21bo$2bobo5bobo3bo4bo2bobo10bo
112bobobobo3bo2bo6bo3bo75b2o20b2o$6bo30b2o211bo21bo$2bo6bo3bo2bobo2bo
2bo3bo8bo112bo2bo2bo3bo3bobo3bo$6bo$2bobo4bo3bo2bo2bobo2bo3bo121bo5bo
3bo6bo2bo3bo100bo$253bo20bobo$2bo6bo3bo2bo4bo2bo3bo10b3o108bo5bo3bo3bo
bo4bobo78b3o$40bo233b3o$2bo7bobo3bo4bo2bobo13bo$185bo10bo$184b3o8b3o8b
o16bo18bo$205b3o14b3o16b3o15$71bo$bo5bo2bobobo3bobo3bobo10bobo5bobo5bo
4bobobo8b2o$71bo$bobobobo2bo6bo5bo8bo4bo3bo2bo3bo3bobo5bo2$bo2bo2bo2bo
bobo3bobo3bobo3bobobo2bobo4bo3bo2bo3bo4bo2$bo5bo2bo10bo5bo4bo4bo3bo2bo
3bo2bobobo4bo15b3o$76b3o$bo5bo2bobobo3bobo3bobo10bobo5bobo3bo3bo4bo16b
o!


EDIT: Block on table in 5:
x = 42, y = 24, rule = tlife
23bo$22bo16bobo$23b3o12bo2bo$24bo14bobo18$b2o$obo$2bo!


(By the way, I'm having trouble creating a shuttle oscillator with the 90-degree T reflector I found - can anyone help with that? This is a p160n version with a 180-degree reflector:
x = 6, y = 55, rule = tlife
bo$o$b3o$2bo29$3b3o$4bo18$2bo$b3o$o$bo!
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Re: tlife

Postby A for awesome » September 27th, 2015, 1:34 pm

I checked on what spaceships in Life work in this rule; the only ones I could find are the glider and the crab:
x = 12, y = 13, rule = tlife
8bo$7b2o$7bobo2$4b2o4b2o$3b2o5b2o$5bo$bo6b2o$2o5bo2bo$obo3b2obo$4bo$3b
o$3bo2bo!
x₁=ηx
V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη)
K=(Λu²)/2
Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt)

$$x_1=\eta x$$
$$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$
$$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$
$$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$

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Re: tlife

Postby M. I. Wright » September 27th, 2015, 3:47 pm

Neat, I checked a while ago but missed the crab! The big glider is close to working, but the back end collapses. Wonder if it could be fixed?

Can anyone find a salvo that, using northwest-traveling gliders, moves a northeast- or southwest-pointing boat forwards diagonally?
EDIT: Found one - but can it be made smaller?
x = 30, y = 44, rule = tlife
bo$obo$2o7$8b2o$8bobo$8bo$4b2o$4bobo$4bo$21b2o$21bobo$21bo7$24b3o$24bo
$25bo2$21b3o$21bo$22bo11$27b3o$27bo$28bo!


By the way, the 'mess' methuselah is actually pretty common in soups, although the debris around it stops it from fully evolving.
Better ant->G
x = 65, y = 59, rule = tlife
b3o$4bo$o3bo$bo$bo$bo$bo2bo9$11bo$10bobo$9b2obo$9bo3$40bo14bo$39b3o12b
obo$39bo2bo10b2ob2o$40b2o11bo3bo$53bo2b2o$54bobo$55bo7$45b3o$61bo$45bo
bo12bobo$46bo12b2ob2o$59bo2bo$60b2o2$24bo$25bo$20b2o2bobo$22bobo$20b3o
27bo$49b2o$50bo2$40bo$38bo2b2o$40bo21bo$61b3o$64bo$63bo2$20b2o$23b2o$
21bo2bo!


Edit: ant in 3 gliders
x = 42, y = 22, rule = tlife
3bo$2bo$2b3o4$37bo$36bobo$36bo2bo$bo35b2o$2o$obo4$39b2o$39bobo$39bo2$
12b3o$12bo$13bo!
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Re: tlife

Postby Jackk » September 27th, 2015, 4:42 pm

Nice!

Can anyone synethise this spark?
x = 11, y = 12, rule = tlife
3b2o$bo$2b3o$o$o2b2o$3b2o$5b2o$5b2o$7b2o$7b2o$9b2o$9b2o!
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Re: tlife

Postby M. I. Wright » September 27th, 2015, 6:10 pm

Hm, I guess that looks a bit easier than BlinkerSpawn's version on page 1, but I'm not too good with this stuff.


Some different, perhaps better, UC salvos:
x = 72, y = 124, rule = tlife
17b2o$17b3o$17b2o3$50bo$49b2o$38bo11bo$24bo6bo5b2o$17b2o3b2o2bo3b2o6bo
$17b2o5bo6bo29bo$60b2o$61bo12$21bo21bo$20b2o20b2o$21bo21bo4$47bo$46b2o
$25bo6b2o13bo$18b2o5b3o4b3o$18b2o5bo6b2o39$33bo$32b2o$18bo5bo8bo$9b2o
6b2o4b2o33bo$9b2o7bo5bo32b2o$58bo3$44bo$43b2o$44bo24b2o$69b3o$69b2o16$
57bo$56b2o9bo$57bo8b2o$67bo8$10bo$2o7b2o$2o8bo2$16bobo$15bo2bo$16bobo
3$61bo$60b2o$61bo!


I'm still looking for a smaller boat-push salvo - help appreciated.

On an unrelated note, here's another AND gate:
x = 29, y = 25, rule = tlife
26bo$26bobo$5bo20b2o$5b3o$8bo$7b2o4$3bo$3bo$4bo2$o$2o5bo$bo4bob2o$o3b
2ob2o$4b2o$6bo$4b2o$4bo2$25b2o$24b2o$26bo!
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Re: tlife

Postby BlinkerSpawn » September 27th, 2015, 8:13 pm

Discovered a component:
x = 25, y = 28, rule = tlife
17bo$17bobo$17b2o4$obo$b2o$bo5$15bo$14b2o$15bo2$8b2o$6bo2bo$6b3o2$4b3o
6b3o$3bo2bo6b3o$3b2o9bo2$22b3o$22bo$23bo!
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Re: tlife

Postby M. I. Wright » September 27th, 2015, 8:54 pm

Nice - I managed to reduce it:
x = 13, y = 24, rule = tlife
8bo$6b2o$7b2o11$bobo$2b2o$2bo4bo$6b2o$7bo2$4b2o4b3o$2bo2bo4bo$bob2o6bo
$bo$2o!
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Re: tlife

Postby BlinkerSpawn » September 27th, 2015, 11:08 pm

Alternate 3G ant synthesis:
x = 15, y = 11, rule = tlife
o$2o$b2o$2o5$12b3o$12bo$13bo!

Also, check the synth database. There's a few new things in there from searching through B+G collisions.
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Re: tlife

Postby Jackk » September 28th, 2015, 2:47 pm

Glider gun with 2 p160s:

x = 23, y = 16, rule = tlife
17b2o$16bobo$16bob2o$17bo2bo$17b3ob2o$18b2ob2o$10b2o$10bobo$4b2o4bo4b
3o$3bo2bo8b2o$3bobo$bo$2o2b2o$o4bo$b2obo$3b2o!
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Re: tlife

Postby BlinkerSpawn » September 28th, 2015, 7:13 pm

Shillelagh takes too many gliders (16).
x = 35, y = 50, rule = tlife
29bo$29bobo$29b2o$4bobo27bo$5b2o25b2o$bo3bo27b2o$2bo$3o11$8bo9b2o$8bob
o8bo$8b2o9bob2o$20bo2bo$22b2o4$10b2o$9b2o$11bo19$27b2o$27bobo$27bo!
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Re: tlife

Postby M. I. Wright » September 28th, 2015, 8:46 pm

Jackk wrote:Glider gun with 2 p160s:

x = 23, y = 16, rule = tlife
17b2o$16bobo$16bob2o$17bo2bo$17b3ob2o$18b2ob2o$10b2o$10bobo$4b2o4bo4b
3o$3bo2bo8b2o$3bobo$bo$2o2b2o$o4bo$b2obo$3b2o!

Awesome! It has an inline inverter, like the Gosper glider gun:
x = 54, y = 51, rule = tlife
32bo$30b2ob2o2$30b2o4bo$29bo6bo$29bo6b2o$28bo6bo$29bo$32b3o$33bo3$49b
2obo$50b2o$18bo31bobo$16b2obo32b2o$16bo2bo31bobo$16b3o4$2bo$bo$ob2o2$
3b2o$2bobo$2bobo3$16b2o$15b2o$17bo8$39b3o$39b3o$38bo3bo$38bob2o$39b3o
2$18b2o$21bo$19bob2o$22bo$22bo!
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Re: tlife

Postby A for awesome » September 28th, 2015, 9:32 pm

There's got to be some way to make a gun out of this:
x = 26, y = 31, rule = tlife
10b2o$9bo2bo$9b3o$10bo4$22bo2bo$22bo$22bo$22bo$2b3o16bo3bo$b2ob2o19bo$
o3b3o15b3o$o5bo$5b2o$bo3bo$2b2o10$15b2o$15bo$16b3o$18bo!
x₁=ηx
V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη)
K=(Λu²)/2
Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt)

$$x_1=\eta x$$
$$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$
$$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$
$$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$

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Re: tlife

Postby BlinkerSpawn » September 28th, 2015, 10:05 pm

A for awesome wrote:There's got to be some way to make a gun out of this:
p160 B factory

That residual temporary hive is enough to make that B+G Ant synth unusable(way too sparky anyway), so I'm not sure what can be done with that.
That being said, it's still a nice find.
On a different note, I went through the first 50 entries on LifeWiki's common still lifes list.
Numbers in parentheses correspond to (Gliders for Life synth/Gliders for TLife synth)
? indicates that current technology is unable to synthesize the still life (currently applies to the elevener and block and cap, but the latter may soon change)
- indicates that the still life does not work in tlife.
Block (2/2)
Hive (2/2)
Loaf (2/2)
Boat (2/2)
Tub (3/3)
Pond (2/2)
Ship (3/3)
Long boat (3/4)
Ship tie (4/4)
Barge (3/3)
Half bakery (3/4)
Mango (3/2)
Eater (2/4)
Long barge (3/3)
Carrier (4/4)
Paperclip (3/8)
Long ship (4/3)
Shillelagh (4/6)
Integral (4/-)
Boat tie (4/4)
Snake (4/4)
Big S (4/-)
Bipond (4/4)
Trans boat with tail (4/6)
Hat (3/3)
Boat ship tie (4/4)
Long long boat (3/5)
Tub with tail (4/4)
Long long ship (4/5)
Table on table (4/7)
Canoe (4/4)
Cis mirrored R-bee (4/4)
Dead spark coil (4/-)
Bookends (4/6)
Elevener (4/?)
Block and cap (4/5+?)
Trans loaf with tail (4/8)
Cis rotated hook (6/6)

Also, another synth database update.
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Re: tlife

Postby BlinkerSpawn » September 29th, 2015, 6:15 pm

p20:
x = 17, y = 17, rule = tlife
14bo$12b3o$2o9bo$bo9b2o$bob2o2bo$2bo6bo$9bo$4bo5bo$5bo3bo$5bo3bo$7bo$
13b2o$13bobo$4b2o9bo$5bo9b2o$2b3o$2bo!
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Re: tlife

Postby A for awesome » September 29th, 2015, 7:04 pm

BlinkerSpawn wrote:p20:
x = 17, y = 17, rule = tlife
14bo$12b3o$2o9bo$bo9b2o$bob2o2bo$2bo6bo$9bo$4bo5bo$5bo3bo$5bo3bo$7bo$
13b2o$13bobo$4b2o9bo$5bo9b2o$2b3o$2bo!

Nice! It's extendable:
x = 22, y = 25, rule = tlife
19bo$17b3o$5b2o9bo$6bo9b2o$6bob2o2bo$7bo6bo$14bo$9bo5bo$10bo3bo$10bo3b
o$2o10bo$bo16b2o$bobo14bobo$2b2o16bo$9bo10b2o$7bo3bo$7bo3bo$6bo5bo$7bo
$7bo6bo$9bo2b2obo$4b2o9bo$5bo9b2o$2b3o$2bo!
x₁=ηx
V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη)
K=(Λu²)/2
Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt)

$$x_1=\eta x$$
$$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$
$$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$
$$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$

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Re: tlife

Postby BlinkerSpawn » September 30th, 2015, 7:09 pm

And two can hassle a loaf in the obvious way:
x = 26, y = 28, rule = tlife
23bo$21b3o$9b2o9bo$10bo9b2o$10bob2o2bo$11bo6bo$18bo$13bo5bo$14bo3bo$
14bo3bo$16bo$22b2o$12bo9bobo$2o9bobo10bo$bo9bo2bo9b2o$bob2o2bo4b2o$2bo
6bo$9bo$4bo5bo$5bo3bo$5bo3bo$7bo$13b2o$13bobo$4b2o9bo$5bo9b2o$2b3o$2bo
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Re: tlife

Postby M. I. Wright » September 30th, 2015, 9:03 pm

Alright, so I've been trying to build a sawtooth, but I just can't see how it's supposed to fit together - maybe you folks will have something in mind. Here's the basic idea.
x = 113, y = 130, rule = tlife
50bobo$50b2o$51bo22$bo$obo5bo$2o5bobo$6b2obo$6bo2$13bo$12bobo$11b2obo$
11bo2$18bo$17bobo$16b2obo$16bo2$23bo$22bobo$21b2obo$21bo2$28bo$27bobo$
26b2obo$26bo2$33bo$32bobo$31b2obo$31bo2$38bo$37bobo$36b2obo$36bo2$43bo
$42bobo$41b2obo$41bo19$53b2o$53bobo$53bo11$55b2o$55bobo$55bo5$72b2o$
72bobo$72bo4$90b2o$90bobo$90bo12b2o$103bobo$103bo15$110b2o$110bobo$
110bo!

In other words:
- A gun continuously fires ants that hit a boat, triggering the block-pulling reaction.
- The block is destroyed when it gets to the base of the sawtooth, triggering a signal that sends out a salvo of gliders to push the boat.
- Lather, rinse, repeat.

I'm not sure how the ant gun would work without interfering with the salvo guns (or vice versa), though.


--
That p20 is really neat - it can eat a T, which may come in handy dealing with p<160 streams.
Also, a cleaner 90-degree T reflector:
x = 18, y = 11, rule = tlife
bo$3o$3bo$2bo5$15bo$15b3o$15bo!

The T's phase is changed, this time by two ticks instead of one.

misc. stuff that might come in handy at some point
x = 142, y = 11, rule = tlife
66bo$64b2o39bobo$22bobo40b2o38b2o32bobo$22b2o82bo32b2o$23bo116bo5$3b2o
38b2o39b2o33b2o$5o35b5o36b5o30b5o!

x = 16, y = 5, rule = tlife
bo$3o$3bo9bo$2bo10b3o$13bo!
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Re: tlife

Postby A for awesome » October 2nd, 2015, 5:22 pm

A stable t eater:
x = 8, y = 10, rule = tlife
3o2$obo$bo2$2b2ob2o$2b2obobo$4bo2bo$4bobo$5bo!

Edit: Here's TLifeHistory:
@RULE TLifeHistory
@TABLE
n_states:7
neighborhood:Moore
symmetries:rotate4reflect
var a={0,2}
var b={1,3,5}
var ba=b
var bb=b
var bc=b
var bd=b
var be=b
var bf=b
var bg=b
var c={0,2,4,6}
var ca=c
var cb=c
var cc=c
var cd=c
var ce=c
var cf=c
var cg=c
var d={3,5}
var e={0,1,2,3,4,5,6}
var ea=e
var eb=e
var ec=e
var ed=e
var ee=e
var ef=e
a,b,ba,bb,c,ca,cb,cc,cd,1
a,bb,ba,cd,b,cc,cb,ca,c,1
a,b,ba,c,ca,bb,cb,cc,cd,1
a,b,ba,c,ca,cb,bb,cc,cd,1
a,b,ba,c,ca,cb,cc,bb,cd,1
a,b,ba,c,ca,cb,cc,cd,bb,1
a,b,c,ba,ca,bb,cb,cc,cd,1
a,b,c,ba,ca,cb,bb,cc,cd,1
a,b,c,ca,ba,cb,bb,cc,cd,1
a,c,b,ca,ba,cb,bb,cc,cd,1
1,c,ca,cb,cc,cd,ce,cf,cg,2
1,b,c,ca,cb,cc,cd,ce,cf,2
1,c,b,ca,cb,cc,cd,ce,cf,2
1,b,c,ca,cb,ba,cc,cd,ce,2
1,b,ba,bb,bc,e,ea,eb,ec,2
1,b,ba,bb,e,bc,ea,eb,ec,2
1,b,ba,e,bb,bc,ea,eb,ec,2
1,b,ba,e,bb,ea,bc,eb,ec,2
1,b,ba,e,bb,ea,eb,bc,ec,2
1,b,ba,e,bb,ea,eb,ec,bc,2
1,b,ba,e,ea,bb,bc,eb,ec,2
1,b,ba,e,ea,bb,eb,bc,ec,2
1,b,ba,e,ea,bb,eb,ec,bc,2
1,b,ba,e,ea,eb,bb,bc,ec,2
1,b,e,ba,ea,bb,eb,bc,ec,2
1,e,b,ea,ba,eb,bb,ec,be,2
4,b,ba,bb,c,ca,cb,cc,cd,3
4,bb,ba,cd,b,cc,cb,ca,c,3
4,b,ba,c,ca,bb,cb,cc,cd,3
4,b,ba,c,ca,cb,bb,cc,cd,3
4,b,ba,c,ca,cb,cc,bb,cd,3
4,b,ba,c,ca,cb,cc,cd,bb,3
4,b,c,ba,ca,bb,cb,cc,cd,3
4,b,c,ba,ca,cb,bb,cc,cd,3
4,b,c,ca,ba,cb,bb,cc,cd,3
4,c,b,ca,ba,cb,bb,cc,cd,3
d,c,ca,cb,cc,cd,ce,cf,cg,4
d,b,c,ca,cb,cc,cd,ce,cf,4
d,c,b,ca,cb,cc,cd,ce,cf,4
d,b,c,ca,cb,ba,cc,cd,ce,4
d,b,ba,bb,bc,e,ea,eb,ec,4
d,b,ba,bb,e,bc,ea,eb,ec,4
d,b,ba,e,bb,bc,ea,eb,ec,4
d,b,ba,e,bb,ea,bc,eb,ec,4
d,b,ba,e,bb,ea,eb,bc,ec,4
d,b,ba,e,bb,ea,eb,ec,bc,4
d,b,ba,e,ea,bb,bc,eb,ec,4
d,b,ba,e,ea,bb,eb,bc,ec,4
d,b,ba,e,ea,bb,eb,ec,bc,4
d,b,ba,e,ea,eb,bb,bc,ec,4
d,b,e,ba,ea,bb,eb,bc,ec,4
d,e,b,ea,ba,eb,bb,ec,be,4
1,6,e,ea,eb,ec,ed,ee,ef,2
1,e,6,ea,eb,ec,ed,ee,ef,2
d,6,e,ea,eb,ec,ed,ee,ef,4
d,e,6,ea,eb,ec,ed,ee,ef,4
@COLORS
1 128 255 0
2 0 0 200
3 200 255 200
4 200 0 0
5 255 255 0
6 100 100 100

First conduit in this rule, a B-to-G:
x = 15, y = 15, rule = TLifeHistory
7.2B$5.5B$5.5B$.CB.6B$C.C8B$2C.9B$3.10B$4.10B$2.B.6B.4B$.2C4BC3B.3B$.
2C.2B3C2B2.2B$2.3B2CBC5.B$4.5B$4.4B$6.B!
x₁=ηx
V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη)
K=(Λu²)/2
Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt)

$$x_1=\eta x$$
$$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$
$$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$
$$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$

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Re: tlife

Postby M. I. Wright » October 2nd, 2015, 8:47 pm

Nice on all three counts, especially the small eater! If only your B factory could hook up to the B->G.

I've edited the first post with Jackk's new glider gun and links to the pattern collections - namely BlinkerSpawn's synthesis database and the two-X-collisions I've been posting.

Also, this two-glider collision works for an AND gate as well:
x = 9, y = 13, rule = tlife
7bo$6bo$6b3o8$2o$b2o$o!


And a better T->forward glider:
x = 11, y = 10, rule = tlife
3o2$obo$bo3$8bo$7b2o$8bobo$9bo!
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Re: tlife

Postby A for awesome » October 4th, 2015, 1:48 pm

Another t-gun:
x = 9, y = 20, rule = tlife
6b2o$5bo2bo$5b3o$6bo12$4bo$4bo$bob2o$3bo$2o!
x₁=ηx
V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη)
K=(Λu²)/2
Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt)

$$x_1=\eta x$$
$$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$
$$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$
$$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$

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Re: tlife

Postby M. I. Wright » October 4th, 2015, 6:35 pm

I posted that one a while ago.
By the way, the only cells necessary for the T eater are these...
x = 6, y = 8, rule = tlife
3o$bo4$2b2obo$2b2obo$4bo!

...meaning that it can be modified to have more than one 'mouth':
x = 27, y = 22, rule = tlife
7bo2$6bobo16bo$3o4bo$bo5bo16bobo$18b3o4bo$19bo5bo2$2b2ob2o$2b2ob2o$4bo
15b2ob2o$4bo15b2ob2o$2b2ob2o15bo$2b2ob2o15bo$23b2o$24bo$22bo$bo5bo14b
2o$3o4bo$6bobo2$7bo!

How did you find it, if I may ask?

Almost a B->T:
x = 10, y = 13, rule = tlife
7bo$7b2o$8b2o$7b2o5$b2ob2o$obob2o$o2bo$bobo$2bo!


EDIT: Heh, TLifeHistory's killer cells are fun.
#C B->T
x = 42, y = 25, rule = TLifeHistory
33.3B$32.6B$31.8B$31.8B$30.10B$31.9B$16.25B$16.25B$16.26B$9.B19.B2.9B
$3.3B.4BF11.3B.4BF8B$2.2BE8B9.2BE13B$4B2E8B6.4B2E12BF$5B2E8B5.5B2E11B
$4B2E8B6.4B2E12B$13B.F5.18B$.6B2.4B8.6B2.8B$.6B3.3B8.6B3.4B$3.3B4.3B
10.3B4.F.B$10.3B$10.3B$10.3B$10.3B$10.3B$10.3B!

#C B->3G, two of which form a G3 pair
x = 31, y = 63, rule = TLifeHistory
2.4B$3.4B$4.4B$5.4B$6.4B$7.4B$8.4B$9.4B$10.4B$11.4B$12.4B$13.4B$14.4B
$15.4B$16.4B$16.4B5.2B$16.5B.F5B$16.13B$15.14B$15.15B$15.15B$14.16B$
14.17B$14.17B$12.F18B$14.16B$14.16B$14.15B$14.16B$14.17B$14.16B$15.
15B$14.F.3B.8B$13.7BF6B$12.15B$12.15B$12.14B$12.13B$13.11BF$14.2BE9B$
12.4B2E9B$12.5B2E8B$12.4B2E9B$12.13B$12.13B$11.14B$10.9B2.3B$9.8B$8.
7B$7.7B$6.7B$5.7B$4.7B$4.6B$4.5B$4.4B$3.4B$2.4B$.4B$4B$3B$2B$B!

#C ...B->B, I guess?
x = 3, y = 8, rule = TLifeHistory
2.F3$E$2E$.2E$.E$E!

#C B->T+backwards B, although its only use is a p220 double-barreled T gun:
x = 71, y = 31, rule = TLifeHistory
4.9B$4.10B$4.9B49.F$9.5B$9.6B$8.8B.F$8.9B$8.11B$7.13B$7.12B$4.15B37.E
$3.18B35.2E12.F$3.19B35.2E$.10BE11B33.2E$.10B2E11B.F$12B2E11B$.10B2E
13B24.2D.D$.24B26.3D$5.9B.10B27.D$5.2DBD5B3.7B$6.3D5B6.B$7.D5B$42.F8$
51.F!
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Re: tlife

Postby Sphenocorona » October 4th, 2015, 11:01 pm

I found a synthesis without meaning to:
x = 9, y = 11, rule = tlife
3b2o$2bo2bo$3bobo$4bob2o$5bo2bo$6bobo$7bo3$bo$3o!


It might be possible to drastically reduce the expense by synthesizing this stage directly:
x = 5, y = 8, rule = tlife
2b3o$3bo2$b2o$3bo$o2bo$3bo$b2o!
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Re: tlife

Postby isaacg » October 5th, 2015, 5:34 am

A naturally occuring two-stage t-eater:
x = 89, y = 44, rule = tlife
12$21b3o$20b2o2bo$19bo5bo$20b2ob2o20bobo$21b3o21bo2bo22b3o$45bobo21bob
o$67bobo2b2o$68bo$69bo8$18b3o$17bobo$17bo2bo!
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Re: tlife

Postby BlinkerSpawn » October 7th, 2015, 11:05 pm

p14 can eat Ts as well:
x = 23, y = 15, rule = tlife
10bo11bo$10b3o7b3o$13bo5bo$12b2o5b2o2$17bo$b2o4bo8bobo$3o2b3o7bo3bo$b
2o4bo8bobo$17bo2$12b2o5b2o$13bo5bo$10b3o7b3o$10bo11bo!
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