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Re: Soup search results

Post by chris_c » October 5th, 2016, 9:26 am

mniemiec wrote:There are now only two remaining 14-bit still-lifes costing 14 gliders: 14.698 and 14.191 (row 4).
One of these in 10 gliders:

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x = 103, y = 29, rule = B3/S23
19bo$20bo$18b3o$81bo$82bo$80b3o2$83b2o$57bobo23b2o$57b2o$58bo2$bo3bo$
2bobo77b2o$3ob3o34b2ob2o36bo4b2o$41b2ob2o38bobobo$83b3o11b2o$54bo27bo
13bobo$55b2obo23b2o13bo2b3o$54b2o2bobo39bo$58b2o41bo$25bo38bo$24bo39bo
$24b3o37bo3$24b2o$24bobo$24bo!

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Re: Soup search results

Post by BlinkerSpawn » October 6th, 2016, 7:50 pm

chris_c wrote:
mniemiec wrote:There are now only two remaining 14-bit still-lifes costing 14 gliders: 14.618 and 14.191 (row 4).
One of these in 10 gliders:

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x = 103, y = 29, rule = B3/S23
19bo$20bo$18b3o$81bo$82bo$80b3o2$83b2o$57bobo23b2o$57b2o$58bo2$bo3bo$
2bobo77b2o$3ob3o34b2ob2o36bo4b2o$41b2ob2o38bobobo$83b3o11b2o$54bo27bo
13bobo$55b2obo23b2o13bo2b3o$54b2o2bobo39bo$58b2o41bo$25bo38bo$24bo39bo
$24b3o37bo3$24b2o$24bobo$24bo!
Promising reaction for the other:

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x = 19, y = 12, rule = B3/S23
16bo$15bobo$14b2ob2o$14b2o$10bo5bo$9b2o$8b2o$2bo5bo$3b2o$2ob2o$bobo$2b
o!
Another:

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x = 21, y = 8, rule = B3/S23
8b2o6b2o$11b2o3bo$6b2obo7bo2bo$6b2o3bob2o3b3o$3o3b2obo3b2o$o2bo7bob2o$
4bo3b2o$3b2o6b2o!
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Re: Soup search results

Post by Goldtiger997 » October 6th, 2016, 8:12 pm

chris_c wrote:
mniemiec wrote:There are now only two remaining 14-bit still-lifes costing 14 gliders: 14.698 and 14.191 (row 4).
One of these in 10 gliders:

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x = 103, y = 29, rule = B3/S23
19bo$20bo$18b3o$81bo$82bo$80b3o2$83b2o$57bobo23b2o$57b2o$58bo2$bo3bo$
2bobo77b2o$3ob3o34b2ob2o36bo4b2o$41b2ob2o38bobobo$83b3o11b2o$54bo27bo
13bobo$55b2obo23b2o13bo2b3o$54b2o2bobo39bo$58b2o41bo$25bo38bo$24bo39bo
$24b3o37bo3$24b2o$24bobo$24bo!
Last one in 13 gliders!

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x = 78, y = 71, rule = B3/S23
59bo$58bo$8bo49b3o$2bo3bobo$obo4b2o$b2o11$46bo$45bo$45b3o$43bo7bo$44bo
6bobo$42b3o6b2o$32bo$32bobo3bo$32b2o4bobo$38b2o$31bo$32bo$30b3o7$50b2o
$49b2o$51bo29$4b2o$3bobo$5bo4bo64b3o$10b2o63bo$9bobo64bo!

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Re: Soup search results

Post by dvgrn » October 7th, 2016, 1:47 am

Goldtiger997 wrote:Last one in 13 gliders!
Wow -- this calls for some kind of cell-ebration... just not sure what exactly!

For a while now I've been wanting to make a LifeViewer animation with a wandering viewpoint in a field of gliders heading in all directions, such that a whole pile of syntheses occur one after another, just when the viewport pans across each construction location.

But I suppose a single pattern with syntheses for all 619 fourteen-bit still lifes might be a bit of a stretch.

Anyway, some kind of new article ought to show up on the conwaylife.com main page, fairly soon. Donations of appropriate showcase patterns to decorate the article would be much appreciated.

(Actually, please feel free to donate the whole article if you want. I'm happier as a copy editor than a writer, really.)

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Re: Soup search results

Post by mniemiec » October 7th, 2016, 3:58 am

I wrote:There are now only two remaining 14-bit still-lifes costing 14 gliders: 14.618 and 14.191 (row 4).
chris_c wrote:One of these in 10 gliders: ...
Goldtiger997 wrote:Last one in 13 gliders! ...
Yay! Also, the last one can be reduced by one, as the underlying 12-bit two-bridged-snakes it's made from can have one glider shaved off:

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x = 47, y = 32, rule = B3/S23
29bo$29bobo$29boo6$9bo$9bobo$9boobb3o$13bo$14bo4$12b3o$12bo$13bo3$41bo
boo$41boobo$45boo$46bo$45bo$45boo$bo$boo$obo13b3o5boo$16bo6boo$17bo7bo
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Re: Soup search results

Post by BlinkerSpawn » October 7th, 2016, 10:18 pm

Neat:

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x = 27, y = 24, rule = B3/S23
26bo$24b2o$25b2o2$2o$obo$obo$b2o4$2b2o$2b2o4$b2o$obo$obo$2o2$25b2o$24b
2o$26bo!
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Re: Soup search results

Post by Apple Bottom » October 8th, 2016, 6:43 am

Twin queen-bee-shuttle on pentadecathlon (two copies, in fact) in D4_+4, found by thunk:

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x = 32, y = 32, rule = B3/S23
oooooooboboboobooboobobobooooooo$
bbbbooooboobbbobbobbbooboooobbbb$
oboboboboboooobbbboooobobobobobo$
bbbbbobbbobobobbbbobobobbbobbbbb$
ooobobbbbooobboooobbooobbbbobooo$
ooobooobbobbbbboobbbbbobbooobooo$
oobboobboobobobbbboboboobboobboo$
oooboboobbboobbbbbboobbboobobooo$
ooboooobbobbboooooobbbobbooooboo$
oobbbobbbbbbbbobbobbbbbbbbobbboo$
obobbooobbbbobboobbobbbbooobbobo$
boooobobboobbobbbbobboobboboooob$
boooboooobooobooooboooboooobooob$
obobobbbbboooboooobooobbbbbobobo$
obooooobboboooooooooobobbooooobo$
bobbbobbboooooooooooooobbbobbbob$
bobbbobbboooooooooooooobbbobbbob$
obooooobboboooooooooobobbooooobo$
obobobbbbboooboooobooobbbbbobobo$
boooboooobooobooooboooboooobooob$
boooobobboobbobbbbobboobboboooob$
obobbooobbbbobboobbobbbbooobbobo$
oobbbobbbbbbbbobbobbbbbbbbobbboo$
ooboooobbobbboooooobbbobbooooboo$
oooboboobbboobbbbbboobbboobobooo$
oobboobboobobobbbboboboobboobboo$
ooobooobbobbbbboobbbbbobbooobooo$
ooobobbbbooobboooobbooobbbbobooo$
bbbbbobbbobobobbbbobobobbbobbbbb$
oboboboboboooobbbboooobobobobobo$
bbbbooooboobbbobbobbbooboooobbbb$
oooooooboboboobooboobobobooooooo!
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Re: Soup search results

Post by BlinkerSpawn » October 8th, 2016, 9:46 am

Apple Bottom wrote:Twin queen-bee-shuttle on pentadecathlon (two copies, in fact) in D4_+4, found by thunk:

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soup
Here you are:

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x = 50, y = 30, rule = B3/S23
4bo40bo$4bo40bo$4bo9b2o18b2o9bo$12bo2bo18bo2bo$12b3o20b3o$2o11bo22bo
11b2o$2o46b2o10$17bo14bo$16bobo12bobo$16bo2bo10bo2bo$17b2o12b2o8$18bo
2b2o4b2o2bo$17bo3b3o2b3o3bo$18bo2b2o4b2o2bo!
That's a really edgy QB if you ask me.
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Re: Soup search results

Post by Extrementhusiast » October 8th, 2016, 3:49 pm

Produces an oscillator I haven't seen before (and apparently isn't in jslife):

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x = 31, y = 31, rule = B3/S23
b4ob2o3bo3b5o2b2ob4o$b2o2b2o5b3obobo6b2o2b2o$o3b3ob2ob7ob7o3b2o$o5bob
4o3b2o3bo3bobo3bo$2ob2ob4o2bo2bob3o2bob3obobo$3obo3bob3ob2ob4o2bo4b2o$
2b3o2b7ob2ob2o2b2o2b5o$obo2b4ob4ob2obo4b2obo3bo$obobobob4o2bob2o2b9o$
2bo5bo2b2o2bo3b2obobob3o$2b2obo2b2obo2bo2bobo2b4obo$obob3o2b3ob3o2b8ob
2obo$2o2b4o3bo9bob4ob2o$obob2o2bobo3b2o3bo3b2o3b2o$4o2b3o6bobob2obo2bo
2b2o$ob6obobob5obobob6obo$b2o2bo2bob2obobo6b3o2b4o$b2o3b2o3bo3b2o3bobo
2b2obobo$b2ob4obo9bo3b4o2b2o$ob2ob8o2b3ob3o2b3obobo$3bob4o2bobo2bo2bob
2o2bob2o$2b3obobob2o3bo2b2o2bo5bo$2b9o2b2obo2b4obobobobo$o3bob2o4bob2o
b4ob4o2bobo$5o2b2o2b2ob2ob7o2b3o$b2o4bo2b4ob2ob3obo3bob3o$obob3obo2b3o
bo2bo2b4ob2ob2o$o3bobo3bo3b2o3b4obo5bo$2o3b7ob7ob2ob3o3bo$2o2b2o6bobob
3o5b2o2b2o$2b4ob2o2b5o3bo3b2ob4o!
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Re: Soup search results

Post by Apple Bottom » October 8th, 2016, 4:24 pm

Extrementhusiast wrote:Produces an oscillator I haven't seen before (and apparently isn't in jslife):
Cool! (BTW, here it is on Catagolue.)
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Re: Soup search results

Post by Kazyan » October 8th, 2016, 9:42 pm

A p4 quadrant can be isolated:

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x = 13, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
5b2o$3bo2bo$3b2obob2o$6b2obo$5bo$3b2ob3o$4b2o3bo$3bobo3bo$b3obo3bob2o$
o5b3o2bo$2o9bo$8b3o$8bo!
EDIT: Smaller, via lightbulb instead of scrubber:

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x = 11, y = 11, rule = B3/S23
4b2o$3bo2bo$3b2obo$6b3o$5bo3bo$3b2ob2o2bo$4b2o2b2o$3bobo$b3obo2b2o$o5b
2o2bo$2o7b2o!
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Re: Soup search results

Post by gmc_nxtman » October 8th, 2016, 10:55 pm

Kazyan wrote:EDIT: Smaller, via lightbulb instead of scrubber:

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x = 11, y = 11, rule = B3/S23
4b2o$3bo2bo$3b2obo$6b3o$5bo3bo$3b2ob2o2bo$4b2o2b2o$3bobo$b3obo2b2o$o5b
2o2bo$2o7b2o!
Wow! This is very surprising if it hasn't been found before.

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Re: Soup search results

Post by AbhpzTa » October 9th, 2016, 2:11 am

gmc_nxtman wrote:
Kazyan wrote:EDIT: Smaller, via lightbulb instead of scrubber:

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x = 11, y = 11, rule = B3/S23
4b2o$3bo2bo$3b2obo$6b3o$5bo3bo$3b2ob2o2bo$4b2o2b2o$3bobo$b3obo2b2o$o5b
2o2bo$2o7b2o!
Wow! This is very surprising if it hasn't been found before.
Much smaller:

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x = 10, y = 12, rule = B3/S23
4b2o$3bo2bo$3b2obo$6b3o$5bo3bo$3b2ob2obo$4b2o2bo$3bobo$b3obo2bo$o4bob
2o$2o3bo$4b2o!
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Re: Soup search results

Post by Goldtiger997 » October 9th, 2016, 2:40 am

I'm planning on attempting to find syntheses for all still lifes 15 bits and under, with less than one glider per bit. We have already done up to 14 bits.

I have done the first ten listed with syntheses greater than or equal to one glider per bit that appear on mniemiec's website.

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x = 54, y = 68, rule = B3/S23
obo$b2o$bo14$25bo25bo$24bo26bobo$24b3o24b2o$17bo$18b2o$17b2o3$23bo$22b
o$22b3o$16bo$17bo$15b3o9bo$26bo$26b3o$24bo$25bo$18bo4b3o$18b2o$17bobo
8bo$28bobo$20b2o6b2o$20bobo8b2o$20bo10bobo$31bo24$25b3o$25bo$26bo!

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x = 126, y = 116, rule = B3/S23
124bo$123bo$123b3o18$114bo$113bo$113b3o12$81bo$81bobo$81b2o2$77bo$76bo
$76b3o$73bo$74b2o$73b2o9b2o$84bobo$84bo3$69bo$69bobo$57bo11b2o$55bobo
14b2o$56b2o14bobo$53b2o17bo$52bobo6bo$54bo5bo$60b3o2$60bo$60b2o$59bobo
37$33b3o$35bo$34bo14$3o$2bo$bo!

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x = 44, y = 39, rule = B3/S23
41bo$31bo9bobo$30bo10b2o$30b3o2$14bo$15bo$13b3o25bo$41bobo$41b2o2$5bo$
3bobo$4b2o5$27bo$18bo8bobo$16bobo2b3o3b2o$17b2o2bo$22bo$17bo12b2o$17b
2o11bobo$16bobo11bo5$16b2o$16bobo$16bo4$b2o$obo$2bo!

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x = 96, y = 107, rule = B3/S23
94bo$93bo$93b3o40$52bo$46bobob2o$47b2o2b2o$47bo4$45bo$46bo$44b3o2$41b
3o$43bo16bo$42bo15b2o$59b2o2$60bo$59b2o$59bobo5$49bobo$50b2o$50bo3$47b
3o$47bo$48bo$44b3o7b3o$46bo7bo$45bo9bo$51b3o$53bo$52bo11$93b3o$93bo$
94bo13$3o$2bo$bo!

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x = 86, y = 70, rule = B3/S23
obo$b2o12bo$bo11b2o$14b2o$8bo$6bobo14bo$7b2o14bobo$11b3o9b2o$13bo13b2o
$12bo13b2o$28bo$2o$b2o18b3o$o20bo8b3o$22bo7bo$16b3o12bo$18bo8b3o$17bo
11bo$28bo36$69b3o$69bo$70bo8$77b3o$77bo$78bo$83b3o$83bo$84bo!

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x = 36, y = 46, rule = B3/S23
bo$2bo$3o11$20bo$21bo$19b3o$25bo$24bo$24b3o3$21bo$22b2o$21b2o$13bo$11b
obo7bo$12b2o7b2o$20bobo3$31bo$29b2o$30b2o$34b2o$33b2o$35bo5$23b3o$23bo
$24bo$20b3o$22bo$21bo!

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x = 102, y = 107, rule = B3/S23
69bo$68bo$68b3o5$obo$b2o$bo26$37bo$36bo$36b3o2$18bo$19bo7bobo4bo$17b3o
7b2o4bo$28bo4b3o$37b3o$37bo$38bo3$14bo$14b2o$13bobo12bo$23bo3bo$22b2o
3b3o$22bobo2$30bobo$30b2o$31bo4$32b3o$32bo$33bo41$99b3o$99bo$100bo!

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x = 92, y = 78, rule = B3/S23
bo$2bo$3o6$20bo$21b2o$20b2o67bobo$89b2o$90bo27$38bo$39bo18bobo$37b3o
18b2o$41bobo15bo$41b2o$42bo4$62bo$61b2o$61bobo3$22b3o$24bo$23bo2$41bo$
41b2o$40bobo$50bo$49b2o$49bobo8$15bo$15b2o$14bobo2$10bo$10b2o71bo$9bob
o70b2o$82bobo!

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x = 72, y = 67, rule = B3/S23
70bo$69bo$69b3o3$37bobo$38b2o$38bo3$40bo4bo$35bo5b2o2bobo$36b2o2b2o3b
2o$35b2o2$35bo16bo$35b2o13b2o$34bobo14b2o2$52bo$51b2o$51bobo$44bobo$
44b2o$45bo2$45b2o$45bobo$45bo$33b3o$35bo$34bo$36b3o$36bo$37bo30$2o$b2o
$o!

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x = 143, y = 145, rule = B3/S23
141bo$140bo$140b3o14$o$b2o117bo$2o116b2o$119b2o20$67bobo$68b2o$68bo14$
77bo$75b2o$76b2o2$72bo$73bo$56bo14b3o$57bo$55b3o10b3o$70bo$69bo3$77bo$
75b2o$76b2o5$55b2o$54bobo$56bo5$73b3o$73bo$74bo49$140b3o$140bo$141bo7$
13b3o$15bo$14bo!
Anybody want to help...

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Re: Soup search results

Post by mniemiec » October 9th, 2016, 9:29 am

Goldtiger997 wrote:I'm planning on attempting to find syntheses for all still lifes 15 bits and under, with less than one glider per bit. We have already done up to 14 bits.

I have done the first ten listed with syntheses greater than or equal to one glider per bit that appear on mniemiec's website. ... Anybody want to help...
This is probably the next best step, as far as the still-lifes are concerned. As of yesterday, I had 19 remaining 15-bit still-lifes at 1 glider per bit, and 94 at greater than 1 glider per bit. This does not yet include Bob Shemyakin's work at completing the synthesis of the remaining 15-bit still-lifes. (I still need to assimilate those, and see if any alternate synthesis paths might be more optimal, especially in light of some of the new converters that have been discovered in the past year).

All but one of the above syntheses (#4) improve the state of the art. Congratulations! 6 of them can be slightly improved, by tightening up initial still-life synthesis and/or final cleanup:
#1 (15.5): Reduced from 13 to 12 (row 1 left).
#3 (15.38): Reduced from 12 to 11 (row 2 left).
#4 (15.45): Reduced from 14 to 11 (row 3 left). However, this is obsolete; you had previously built this from 12 gliders on 2016-10-14; BlinkerSpawn had reduced it to 11, and I had reduced it to 10. (row 4 left).
#6 (15.79): Reduced from 10 to 9 (row 1 right).
#7 (15.80): Reduced from 13 to 12 (row 2 right).
#8 (15.92): Reduced from 13 to 12 (row 3 right).

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x = 339, y = 208, rule = B3/S23
109bo$108bo$108b3o18$171bo$172bo$170b3o$174bo$173bo$173b3o17boo18boo$
193boo18boo$103bo141boo18boo18boo$103bobo138bobbo16bobbo16bobbo$30boo
18boo18boo31boo5boo132bobo17bobo17bobo$10b3o17boo18boo18boo38boo112bo
18booboo15booboo15booboo$10bo89bobo120bo20bobo17bobo17bobo$11bo55boo
32boo4boo114b3o18bobo17bobo17bobo$8boo19boo18boo16boo32bo5boo110b3o23b
o19bo19bo$7bobo19boo14bo3boo96booboo67bo$9bo36boo99bobooboboobo62bo$
45boo106booboo19bo$175boo15bo19bo$98b3o75boo14bo19bo$100bo91bo9boo8bo$
99bo103boo$105b3o94bo$105bo$106bo$$193boo18boo23b3o17b3o$100boo91boo
18boo39b3o$101boo153bo$100bo154bo$107b3o24boo$107bo26bobo35bo$108bo25b
o38bo$171b3o3$173bo$172boo$172bobo8$84bo$84boo$83bobo13$103bo101bobo$
103bobo100boo$103boo101bo$214bobo$53bo160boo$54bo160bo$52b3o$56bo150bo
$55bo149bobo$55b3o17boo18boo109boo$75boo18boo9bo$105bo65bo$16bo15boo
18boo18boo18boo11b3o64bo$14bobo15bobo17bobo17bobo17bobo6b3o66b3o$15boo
16boo18boo18boo18boo6bo11boo75boo28boo$35boo18boo18boo18boo5bo11bobboo
bboo49bo17bobo27bobo16boo28boo18boo18boo$35bobo17bobo17bobo17bobo16bob
obbobbo48boo18bo29bo16bobbo3bo22bobbo3bo12bobbo3bo12bobbo3bo19bo$5bo5b
oobb3o18boo18boo18boo18boo17boobboo50bobo32boo30bobo3bobo21bobo3bobo
11bobo3bobo11bobo3bobo17bobo$6bo5boobo56boo18boo113boo30bo3bobbo22bo3b
obbo12bo3bobbo12bo3bobbo16bobbo$4b3o4bo4bo34b3o18boo18boo112bo36booboo
25booboo15booboo8boo5booboo15booboo$53bo190bobbo26bobbo16bobbo7bobo6bo
bbo16bobbo$52bo190bobbo26bobbo16bobbo10bo5bobbo16bobbo$54b3o187boo28b
oo18boo18boo18boo$54bo152boo$55bo150bobo$208bo58bobo$202boo64boo$201bo
bo5boo57bo$203bo5bobo$209bo30boo7boo19boo7boo$239bobo7boo18bobo7boo$
239boo28boo$295bo19bo$294bobo17bobo$242boo28boo20bobo17bobo$242boo28b
oo21bo19bo$72boo243boo$43boo27boo243bobo$43boo201boo28boo39bo$15boo48b
oo4bo174boo28boo$5bo9bobo18boo27boo4boo$6bo8bo20boo32bobo$4b3obboo$8bo
bo102bo14bo4bo$10bo101bobo14boobobo$112boo14boobboo98bo29bo$232bo29bo$
112boo18boo98bo29bo$112boo18boo$76b3o$18bobo26b3o$18boo$19bo$$18boo$bo
15boo$bbo16bo44bo50boo18boo18boo$3o32bo27bobo50bo19bo19bo$34bobo26bobo
49bo19bo19bo$3b3o28bobo27bo50boo18boo18boo$5bo29bo80bo19bo19bo102bo$4b
o110bo19bo19bo101boo$114bo19bo19bo103boo$114bobo17bobo17bobo$70bo44bob
o17bobo17bobo$6bo34bo28bo45boo18boo18boo$6boobboo29bo28bo$5boboboo30bo
$11bo228bo$240bobo$240boo7$319bo$295bobo21bobo$296boo21boo$296bo$287b
oo28boo$267boo18boo8boo18boo$228bo38boo28boo$226bobo$179bo47boo$180bo
87boo28boo$178b3o48boo37boo8boo18boo8boo$182bo47boo46boo28boo$181bo47b
o54boo28boo18boo$181b3o17boo38boo41bobo19boo6bobo17bobo$201boo38boo44b
o17bobo9bo19bo$285boobo18bo7boobo16boobo$102boo180bobobo25bobobo15bobo
bo$102bobo179bobbo26bobbo16bobbo$102bo182boo28boo18boo5$106bobo82boo
38boo$10bo95boo82bobbo36bobbo$9bo97bo83boo38boo$9b3o159bobo$172boo$6bo
165bo24bo39bo$4bobo108boo18boo18boo39bobo37bobo$5boo21boo18boo18boo18b
oo26bo19bo19bo16b3o20bobo37bobo$27bobbo16bobbo16bobbo16bobbo24bo19bo
19bo19bo21bo39bo$21b3o3bobo11b3o3bobo11b3o3bobo11b3o3bobo25boo18boo18b
oo17bo$6b3o19bo19bo3bo15bo19bo27bo19bo19bo$6bo44bo63bo19bo19bo$7bo43b
3o14bo19bo25bo19bo19bo$67bobo17bobo24bobo17bobo17bobo$48b3o16bobo17bob
o6boo17bobo17bobo17bobo$48bo19bo19bo7bobo17bo19bo19boo$49bo46bo$142boo
$94boo42bobboo$93bobo42boo3bo$95bo41bobo5$208bo$208boo$207bobo!

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Re: Soup search results

Post by BobShemyakin » October 9th, 2016, 12:04 pm

Goldtiger997 wrote:
chris_c wrote:
mniemiec wrote:There are now only two remaining 14-bit still-lifes costing 14 gliders: 14.698 and 14.191 (row 4).
One of these in 10 gliders:

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x = 103, y = 29, rule = B3/S23
19bo$20bo$18b3o$81bo$82bo$80b3o2$83b2o$57bobo23b2o$57b2o$58bo2$bo3bo$
2bobo77b2o$3ob3o34b2ob2o36bo4b2o$41b2ob2o38bobobo$83b3o11b2o$54bo27bo
13bobo$55b2obo23b2o13bo2b3o$54b2o2bobo39bo$58b2o41bo$25bo38bo$24bo39bo
$24b3o37bo3$24b2o$24bobo$24bo!
Last one in 13 gliders!

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x = 78, y = 71, rule = B3/S23
59bo$58bo$8bo49b3o$2bo3bobo$obo4b2o$b2o11$46bo$45bo$45b3o$43bo7bo$44bo
6bobo$42b3o6b2o$32bo$32bobo3bo$32b2o4bobo$38b2o$31bo$32bo$30b3o7$50b2o
$49b2o$51bo29$4b2o$3bobo$5bo4bo64b3o$10b2o63bo$9bobo64bo!
In Mark Niemiec's database SL 14.492 marked as 9G and are 2 synthesis. The first synthesis contains 8 gliders and does not work. The second synthesis contains 14 gliders. I managed to reduce it to 12 gliders:

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x = 121, y = 29, rule = B3/S23
4$97bo$98bo$88bobo5b3o$89b2o$89bo2$87b2o7b2o$88b2o5b2o$87bo9bo15b2o$
17bo14b2o18b2o18b2o18b2o18bobo$12bobo2bobo12bo19bo19bo19bo19bo$13b2o2b
2o14bo19bo19bo19bo19bo$13bo16b3o17b3o6bo10b3obo15b3obo15b3obo$30bo19bo
7b2o10bo3bo15bo3bo15bo3bo$58bobo13b2o18b2o18b2o2$5b2o12b3o31b2o$4bobo
12bo32bobo6bo$6bo13bo33bo5b2o$60bobo2$57b3o$59bo$58bo!

Now for all the still lifes of no more than 14 bits are cost less than 1glider/bit.
On this occasion, I publish my database for still lifes to 15 bits and summary table.

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Re: Soup search results

Post by AbhpzTa » October 9th, 2016, 3:31 pm

mniemiec wrote:
Goldtiger997 wrote:I'm planning on attempting to find syntheses for all still lifes 15 bits and under, with less than one glider per bit. We have already done up to 14 bits.

I have done the first ten listed with syntheses greater than or equal to one glider per bit that appear on mniemiec's website. ... Anybody want to help...
This is probably the next best step, as far as the still-lifes are concerned. As of yesterday, I had 19 remaining 15-bit still-lifes at 1 glider per bit, and 94 at greater than 1 glider per bit. This does not yet include Bob Shemyakin's work at completing the synthesis of the remaining 15-bit still-lifes. (I still need to assimilate those, and see if any alternate synthesis paths might be more optimal, especially in light of some of the new converters that have been discovered in the past year).

All but one of the above syntheses (#4) improve the state of the art. Congratulations! 6 of them can be slightly improved, by tightening up initial still-life synthesis and/or final cleanup:
#1 (15.5): Reduced from 13 to 12 (row 1 left).
#3 (15.38): Reduced from 12 to 11 (row 2 left).
#4 (15.45): Reduced from 14 to 11 (row 3 left). However, this is obsolete; you had previously built this from 12 gliders on 2016-10-14; BlinkerSpawn had reduced it to 11, and I had reduced it to 10. (row 4 left).
#6 (15.79): Reduced from 10 to 9 (row 1 right).
#7 (15.80): Reduced from 13 to 12 (row 2 right).
#8 (15.92): Reduced from 13 to 12 (row 3 right).

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x = 339, y = 208, rule = B3/S23
109bo$108bo$108b3o18$171bo$172bo$170b3o$174bo$173bo$173b3o17boo18boo$
193boo18boo$103bo141boo18boo18boo$103bobo138bobbo16bobbo16bobbo$30boo
18boo18boo31boo5boo132bobo17bobo17bobo$10b3o17boo18boo18boo38boo112bo
18booboo15booboo15booboo$10bo89bobo120bo20bobo17bobo17bobo$11bo55boo
32boo4boo114b3o18bobo17bobo17bobo$8boo19boo18boo16boo32bo5boo110b3o23b
o19bo19bo$7bobo19boo14bo3boo96booboo67bo$9bo36boo99bobooboboobo62bo$
45boo106booboo19bo$175boo15bo19bo$98b3o75boo14bo19bo$100bo91bo9boo8bo$
99bo103boo$105b3o94bo$105bo$106bo$$193boo18boo23b3o17b3o$100boo91boo
18boo39b3o$101boo153bo$100bo154bo$107b3o24boo$107bo26bobo35bo$108bo25b
o38bo$171b3o3$173bo$172boo$172bobo8$84bo$84boo$83bobo13$103bo101bobo$
103bobo100boo$103boo101bo$214bobo$53bo160boo$54bo160bo$52b3o$56bo150bo
$55bo149bobo$55b3o17boo18boo109boo$75boo18boo9bo$105bo65bo$16bo15boo
18boo18boo18boo11b3o64bo$14bobo15bobo17bobo17bobo17bobo6b3o66b3o$15boo
16boo18boo18boo18boo6bo11boo75boo28boo$35boo18boo18boo18boo5bo11bobboo
bboo49bo17bobo27bobo16boo28boo18boo18boo$35bobo17bobo17bobo17bobo16bob
obbobbo48boo18bo29bo16bobbo3bo22bobbo3bo12bobbo3bo12bobbo3bo19bo$5bo5b
oobb3o18boo18boo18boo18boo17boobboo50bobo32boo30bobo3bobo21bobo3bobo
11bobo3bobo11bobo3bobo17bobo$6bo5boobo56boo18boo113boo30bo3bobbo22bo3b
obbo12bo3bobbo12bo3bobbo16bobbo$4b3o4bo4bo34b3o18boo18boo112bo36booboo
25booboo15booboo8boo5booboo15booboo$53bo190bobbo26bobbo16bobbo7bobo6bo
bbo16bobbo$52bo190bobbo26bobbo16bobbo10bo5bobbo16bobbo$54b3o187boo28b
oo18boo18boo18boo$54bo152boo$55bo150bobo$208bo58bobo$202boo64boo$201bo
bo5boo57bo$203bo5bobo$209bo30boo7boo19boo7boo$239bobo7boo18bobo7boo$
239boo28boo$295bo19bo$294bobo17bobo$242boo28boo20bobo17bobo$242boo28b
oo21bo19bo$72boo243boo$43boo27boo243bobo$43boo201boo28boo39bo$15boo48b
oo4bo174boo28boo$5bo9bobo18boo27boo4boo$6bo8bo20boo32bobo$4b3obboo$8bo
bo102bo14bo4bo$10bo101bobo14boobobo$112boo14boobboo98bo29bo$232bo29bo$
112boo18boo98bo29bo$112boo18boo$76b3o$18bobo26b3o$18boo$19bo$$18boo$bo
15boo$bbo16bo44bo50boo18boo18boo$3o32bo27bobo50bo19bo19bo$34bobo26bobo
49bo19bo19bo$3b3o28bobo27bo50boo18boo18boo$5bo29bo80bo19bo19bo102bo$4b
o110bo19bo19bo101boo$114bo19bo19bo103boo$114bobo17bobo17bobo$70bo44bob
o17bobo17bobo$6bo34bo28bo45boo18boo18boo$6boobboo29bo28bo$5boboboo30bo
$11bo228bo$240bobo$240boo7$319bo$295bobo21bobo$296boo21boo$296bo$287b
oo28boo$267boo18boo8boo18boo$228bo38boo28boo$226bobo$179bo47boo$180bo
87boo28boo$178b3o48boo37boo8boo18boo8boo$182bo47boo46boo28boo$181bo47b
o54boo28boo18boo$181b3o17boo38boo41bobo19boo6bobo17bobo$201boo38boo44b
o17bobo9bo19bo$285boobo18bo7boobo16boobo$102boo180bobobo25bobobo15bobo
bo$102bobo179bobbo26bobbo16bobbo$102bo182boo28boo18boo5$106bobo82boo
38boo$10bo95boo82bobbo36bobbo$9bo97bo83boo38boo$9b3o159bobo$172boo$6bo
165bo24bo39bo$4bobo108boo18boo18boo39bobo37bobo$5boo21boo18boo18boo18b
oo26bo19bo19bo16b3o20bobo37bobo$27bobbo16bobbo16bobbo16bobbo24bo19bo
19bo19bo21bo39bo$21b3o3bobo11b3o3bobo11b3o3bobo11b3o3bobo25boo18boo18b
oo17bo$6b3o19bo19bo3bo15bo19bo27bo19bo19bo$6bo44bo63bo19bo19bo$7bo43b
3o14bo19bo25bo19bo19bo$67bobo17bobo24bobo17bobo17bobo$48b3o16bobo17bob
o6boo17bobo17bobo17bobo$48bo19bo19bo7bobo17bo19bo19boo$49bo46bo$142boo
$94boo42bobboo$93bobo42boo3bo$95bo41bobo5$208bo$208boo$207bobo!
#1(15.5): Reduced from 12 to 10 (top).
#2(15.17): Reduced from 14 to 10 (bottom).

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x = 145, y = 133, rule = B3/S23
93bo$92bo$92b3o25$83bo$81bobo$44b2o36b2o10b2o$44b2o48b2o$10bo73bobo$8b
2o31b2o41b2o5b2o$5bo3b2o30b2o42bo5b2o$6b2o123b2ob2o$5b2o45b2o48b2o27bo
b2obob2obo$52b2o48b2o33b2ob2o$83b3o$85bo$84bo$87bo$87bo$b2o84bo$2o$2bo
30b2o$32bobo$34bo$36b3o$36bo$37bo6$70bo$70b2o$69bobo13$139bo$138bo$
138b3o24$6bo$b2ob2o48bo49bo$obo2b2o46bobo47bobo$2bo50b2o48b2o5$107b2o$
53b2o2b3o47b2o$54b2obo38b2o$53bo4bo37b2o6$91b3o$42b3o46bo$44bo47bo$43b
o92bob2ob2o$85bo3b3o44b2obobo2bo$85b2o4bo47bo3b2o$84bobo3bo48b2o11$57b
o$57b2o$56bobo!
100009436650194649 = 94649 * 1056634900001

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Re: Soup search results

Post by Goldtiger997 » October 9th, 2016, 6:32 pm

mniemiec wrote:All but one of the above syntheses (#4) improve the state of the art. Congratulations! 6 of them can be slightly improved, by tightening up initial still-life synthesis and/or final cleanup:
Thanks. I'm not currently trying to optimize the syntheses I make, just make them below 15 gliders. I stop improving them once they're below 15 gliders.

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Re: Soup search results

Post by mniemiec » October 9th, 2016, 9:14 pm

BobShemyakin wrote:In Mark Niemiec's database SL 14.492 marked as 9G and are 2 synthesis. The first synthesis contains 8 gliders and does not work. The second synthesis contains 14 gliders. I managed to reduce it to 12 gliders: ...
Eek! Thanks for bringing this to my attention. I'm not sure what happened there. Not only does the synthesis not work, but it takes 8 gliders, not the 9 indicated. The 4-glider add-tail converter fails, but another 5-glider one works, making this still 9 gliders:

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x = 117, y = 20, rule = B3/S23
92bo$91bo$91b3o$80bo8bo$81boo4bobo$80boo6boo4$111boo$bbobo21bo19bo19bo
29bo15bo3bo$3boo19b3o17b3o17b3o27b3o15bob3o$3bo19bo19bo19bo29bo19bo$
23boo18boo19bo18b3o8bo19bo$3o59bobo9b3o8bo6bobo17bobo$bbo59boo12bo7bo
7boo18boo$bo39boo32bo$37bobboo$37boo3bo$36bobo!
AbhpzTa wrote:#1(15.5): Reduced from 12 to 10 (top).
#2(15.17): Reduced from 14 to 10 (bottom). ...
Impressive! I actually tried the first half of the 15.17 reduction (I have 5 3-glider collisions that make those 2 blocks, all of which involve a glider into a B-heptomino, and including the same one you used), but for some reason, it didn't look like it would work. I have never built up a collection of 3-glider collisions that make constellations involving more than 2 objects, nor those with traffic lights; it seems like they can be useful after all!

EDIT:
Simple 44-bit P4 from 10 gliders, suggested by the soup here http://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xp4 ... 62sg/b3s23:

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x = 163, y = 35, rule = B3/S23
133bo$133bobo$133boo$67bo$68bo3bo28boo28boo$66b3oboo28bobbo26bobbo$71b
oo27bobbo26bobbo$101boo28boo$$122bobo$123boo$123bo3$obo25bo29bo29bo29b
o29bo13bo$oo26b3o27b3o27b3o27b3o7bo19b3o9b3o$bo29bo29bo29bo29bo6bobo
20bo7bo$30boo28boo28boo28boo6boo20bo9bo$bb3o145bo3bobo3bo$bbo151bobo$
3bo147bobbobobbo$151booboboboo$154bobo$154bobo$123bo29booboo$124bo$
122b3o3$126boo$125boo$127bo$122boo$121bobo$123bo!

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Re: Soup search results

Post by Apple Bottom » October 10th, 2016, 5:47 am

Second copy of 48P31 in D4_+2:

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x = 32, y = 31, rule = B3/S23
oboobobbobobboobboobbobobboboobo$
bbobbbbobbooobboobbooobbobbbbobb$
obbbboobobooobboobboooboboobbbbo$
oboboobbbobbbbboobbbbbobbboobobo$
obobbbboobobboboobobboboobbbbobo$
bobobbboooboooboobooobooobbbobob$
oooobobobbbobobbbbobobbboboboooo$
bbboobbbobbboooooooobbbobbboobbb$
oobbobobbobboboooobobbobbobobboo$
bbobooboobboooboobooobbooboobobb$
bobbbbbbooooobobbobooooobbbbbbob$
bobobbooobboboooooobobbooobbobob$
obobobbooooobbbbbbbbooooobbobobo$
booobobooooobobbbbobooooobobooob$
bobbbobboobbooobbooobboobbobbbob$
oobboboobboooooooooooobboobobboo$
bobbbobboobbooobbooobboobbobbbob$
booobobooooobobbbbobooooobobooob$
obobobbooooobbbbbbbbooooobbobobo$
bobobbooobboboooooobobbooobbobob$
bobbbbbbooooobobbobooooobbbbbbob$
bbobooboobboooboobooobbooboobobb$
oobbobobbobboboooobobbobbobobboo$
bbboobbbobbboooooooobbbobbboobbb$
oooobobobbbobobbbbobobbboboboooo$
bobobbboooboooboobooobooobbbobob$
obobbbboobobboboobobboboobbbbobo$
oboboobbbobbbbboobbbbbobbboobobo$
obbbboobobooobboobboooboboobbbbo$
bbobbbbobbooobboobbooobbobbbbobb$
oboobobbobobboobboobbobobboboobo!
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Re: Soup search results

Post by mniemiec » October 10th, 2016, 9:11 am

Apple Bottom wrote:Second copy of 48P31 in D4_+2: ...
This leads to the following 27-glider synthesis, much cheaper than my previous 66-glider one:

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x = 275, y = 57, rule = B3/S23
193bo38bo$194boo34boo$193boo36boo9$206bo$204bobo7bo$205boo5bobo7bo$
213boo6bo$221b3o3$194bobo$195boo$195bo7b3o$205bo$154bo49bo53boobobbob
oo$bo51bo100bobo26boo38boo26boo4bobbo4bobbo4boo$bbo49bo101boo27boo38b
oo26boo5bobo4bobo5boo$3o21boo18boo6b3o9boo18boo7bo15boo4boo22boo4boo
10boo10boo4boo21bo10boo4boo42bo6bo$24bobo17bobo17bobo17bobo5bo16bobobb
obo22bobobbobo10bobo9bobobbobo21boo9bobobbobo$25bo19bo9boo8bo19bo6b3o
15bo4bo24bo4bo11bo12bo4bo21bobo10bo4bo$55bobo10b3o17b3o$5bo19bo19bo9bo
9bo19bo6b3o15bo4bo12bo11bo4bo24bo4bo34bo4bo10bobo$4bo19bobo17bobo17bob
o17bobo5bo16bobobbobo9bobo10bobobbobo22bobobbobo32bobobbobo9boo$4b3o
17boo18boo18boo18boo7bo15boo4boo10boo10boo4boo22boo4boo32boo4boo10bo
31bo6bo$130boo29boo38boo48boo5bobo4bobo5boo$3bo125bobo29boo38boo48boo
4bobbo4bobbo4boo$bboo127bo89bo36boobobboboo$bbobo215bo$220b3o7bo$229b
oo$229bobo3$202b3o$204bo6boo$203bo7bobo5boo$211bo7bobo$219bo9$193boo
36boo$194boo34boo$193bo38bo!

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Re: Soup search results

Post by chris_c » October 10th, 2016, 10:39 am

mniemiec wrote:
Apple Bottom wrote:Second copy of 48P31 in D4_+2: ...
This leads to the following 27-glider synthesis, much cheaper than my previous 66-glider one.
I posted a 24 glider synthesis here.

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Re: Soup search results

Post by Goldtiger997 » October 11th, 2016, 7:25 am

Here are 5 more 15-bit still-lifes in less than 15 gliders that previously had syntheses listed on mniemiec's database with at least 15 gliders

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x = 64, y = 57, rule = B3/S23
o$b2o$2o6$30bo$31bo$29b3o6$41bo$32bo7b2o$32b2o6bobo$31bobo$38b2o$37bob
o$39bo$21b2o$20bobo$22bo4b2o$26b2o$28bo$34bo$33b2o$33bobo24$61b3o$61bo
$62bo!

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x = 72, y = 74, rule = B3/S23
bo$2bo18bo$3o19bo$20b3o3$70bo$68b2o$69b2o$10bo$11b2o$10b2o57bo$69bobo$
69b2o$17bo$15bobo8bo$16b2o9b2o$26b2o4$32bo$30bobo$31b2o8$38bo$39bo$37b
3o11$42bobo3bo$43b2ob2o$43bo3b2o12$28b2o$29b2o$28bo11$13bo$13b2o$12bob
o!

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x = 66, y = 87, rule = B3/S23
2bo$obo$b2o23$53bobo$53b2o$54bo3$49bo$48bo15bo$48b3o11b2o$63b2o$52bo$
51b2o11bo$51bobo9b2o$63bobo5$41bo$42b2o$41b2o2$41bo$41b2o$40bobo3$58b
2o$57bobo$59bo$53b2o$52bobo5b2o$54bo5bobo$60bo27$26b3o$28bo$27bo!

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x = 42, y = 34, rule = B3/S23
39bo$38bo$38b3o7$40bo$39bo$39b3o4$11bo$9bobo12bo$10b2o11bo$23b3o$21bo$
22bo$20b3o$5bo3b3o$3bobo5bo4bo$4b2o4bo3bobo$15b2o4$20bo$21b2obo$b2o17b
2o2bobo$obo21b2o$2bo!

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x = 47, y = 82, rule = B3/S23
28bobo$28b2o$29bo3$38bo$37bo$37b3o15$16bo$17bo$15b3o4$18bo$17bo$17b3o
2$21bobo$21b2o$22bo6$26bo$26bobo$26b2o$29b2o3b2o$29bobo2bobo$29bo4bo4$
bo$b2o$obo9b2o$11bobo16bo$13bo15b2o$29bobo25$45b2o$44b2o$46bo!
EDIT:
Here's another

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x = 77, y = 80, rule = B3/S23
2bo$obo$b2o14$34bo3bo$35bo2bobo$33b3o2b2o11$34bobo3bo$35b2ob2o$35bo3b
2o10$32bo$31bo$31b3o$27bobo$28b2o$28bo7$36b2o$35b2o$37bo6$74b3o$74bo$
75bo14$5b3o$7bo$6bo!

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Re: Soup search results

Post by mniemiec » October 11th, 2016, 2:32 pm

Goldtiger997 wrote:Here are 5 more 15-bit still-lifes in less than 15 gliders that previously had syntheses listed on mniemiec's database with at least 15 gliders ...
Nice. 15.102, 15.110, 15.115, 15.117 (reduced by 1 glider below), 15.130, 15.131.

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x = 120, y = 21, rule = B3/S23
35bo$33bobo$34boo$104bo$104bobo$104boo$58boo$54boobbobo21boo18boo$55b
oobo23boo18boo$42bo11bo$42bobo32boo18boo18boo$42boo28boo3bobo12boo3bob
o12boo3bobo$72bobboobbo12bobboobbo12bobboobbo$41bo7boo22boobobo14boobo
bo14boobobo$42bo5bobo26bo19bo19bo$5bo34b3o7bo29boo18boo$3bobo19boo28b
oo23boo18boo$4boo19boo28boo$boo99boo$obo99bobo$bbo99bo!

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Re: Soup search results

Post by Extrementhusiast » October 12th, 2016, 8:48 pm

Five of the most expensive 15-bitters reduced:

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x = 606, y = 110, rule = B3/S23
bobo$2b2o$2bo5$559bo$560b2o$559b2o2$364bo$365b2o$355bo8b2o$356bo$354b
3o$376bo$376bobo107bo95bo$376b2o109b2o93bobo$486b2o94b2o2$371bo117bo
82bo$371bobo116b2o78bobo$363b3o5b2o116b2o80b2o$365bo$189b2o173bo123bo
78bo$188bo2bo296b2o76bobo$189bobo295bobo8bo67bobo$190bo307bo68bo$164bo
333bo$28bo133bobo$o26bo135b2o329b2o$b2o4bo19b3o464b2o$2o6b2o165bo197bo
102b2o$7b2o164bobo196bo102bobo115bobo$174b2o10b2o184b3o102bo111b2o2b2o
$186b2o188b3o206bo3bobo2bo$176b2o198bo207b2o3bo$175bo2bo198bo206bobo$
176b2o4$374b3o$27bo346bo$3b2o21b2o347bo$4b2o15b2o3bobo133b3o206bo$3bo
9b2o5b2o142bo206b2o$14b2o6bo140bo206bobo$13bo3b2o$17bobo$17bo10$603b3o
$603bo$604bo18$246b2o$246bobo$246bo5$238b2o$238bobo$238bo11$76b2o$75b
2o$77bo4$70b2o$69b2o$71bo!
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