The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Post by BlinkerSpawn » November 7th, 2016, 8:13 pm

gmc_nxtman wrote:
simeks wrote: EDIT: It can actually insert a glider at the minimum distance in front of another glider:

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x = 40, y = 52, rule = LifeHistory
12.A$11.A.A4.2A$11.A.A4.2A$10.2A.2A12.A$10.A14.3A$11.A.2A9.A$9.A.A.2A
9.2A$9.2A3$20.2A$20.2A9$14.C$14.C.C$14.3C$16.C21.2A$38.A$36.A.A$36.2A
$32.2A$32.A.A$33.2A4$31.2A.A$31.2A.3A$37.A$26.2A3.2A.3A$26.2A4.A.A$
32.A.A$33.A10$.2A$A.A$2.A!
Impressive!
Unfortunately it's minimum insertion window is 87 ticks wide, so as far as low-period guns are concerned it's not so helpful, but still a great find.

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x = 40, y = 52, rule = LifeHistory
12.A$11.A.A4.2A$11.A.A4.2A$10.2A.2A12.A$10.A14.3A$11.A.2A9.A$9.A.A.2A
9.2A$9.2A3$20.2A$20.2A9$14.C$14.C.C$14.3C$16.C21.2A$38.A$36.A.A$36.2A
$23.A8.2A$23.2A7.A.A$22.A.A8.2A4$31.2A.A$31.2A.3A$37.A$26.2A3.2A.3A$
26.2A4.A.A$32.A.A$33.A10$.2A$A.A$2.A!
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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Post by dvgrn » June 6th, 2017, 2:56 pm

A long time ago, chris_c wrote:Using [Kazyan's] G->MWSS mechanism I can get a repeat time of 98 with fairly reasonable bounding box:

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x = 127, y = 65, rule = LifeHistory
80.2A11.A$79.B2AB9.A.A26.B$80.3B9.A.A24.2A2B$79.B.B9.2A.3A21.BABA2B$
79.5B8.B4.A15.4B.2BA3B$79.6B6.2AB3A9.4B2.12B$79.8B4.2A.A11.5B.11B$80.
13B12.18B$78.13B14.17B$77.15B13.19B$77.15B10.B2.20B$76.17B.B5.26B$76.
51B$75.13B2A13B2A21B$74.14B2A13B2A21B$73.2AB3.46B$72.A2.A4.44B$71.A.
2A5.6B3.B2.2B2.27B$71.A7.6B13.4B2.18B$70.2A6.9B17.9B.7B$42.A34.4B4.2A
19.6B3.6B$42.3A31.4B5.A21.4B3.6B$38.A6.A29.4B7.3A17.4B5.6B$B36.A.A4.
2A28.4B10.A16.4B5.6B$BC35.A.A4.5B24.4B27.4B7.6B$2BC32.3A.2A5.4B11.A
10.4B27.4B7.6B$3CB30.A4.B5.5B9.3A9.4B27.4B9.6B$.4B23.A6.3AB2AB2.6B8.A
11.4B27.4B9.6B$2.4B22.3A6.A.2AB2.6B.2B5.2A9.4B27.4B11.6B$3.4B24.A7.
21B8.4B27.4B11.6B$4.4B10.A11.2A3.B5.17B9.4B17.2A8.4B13.6B$5.4B7.3A11.
8B2.15B2A2B7.4B14.A.A2.A7.4B3.A9.6B$6.4B5.A16.22BA2BA2B5.4B13.3A.2A8.
4B3.A.A9.6B$7.4B4.2A15.23B2A3B4.4B13.A4.B8.4B4.A.A8.6B$2A6.9B14.19B3.
9B.4B11.A2.4AB2AB5.4B4.2A.2A8.6B$.A7.6B14.21B4.12B12.3A3.A.2AB.2B.4B
6.B10.6B$.A.2A5.6B3.B2.2B2.25B4.10B16.A4.10B6.2AB2A3.2A3.6B$2.A2.A4.
34B4.4B3.9B16.2AB4.9B6.2A.A.A.A.A2.6B$3.2AB3.27B.6B6.4B.9B17.5B.12B3.
4B2.A.A5.6B$4.14B2A16B2.B.5B5.4B.7B20.23B.2A.2A3.6B$5.13B2A16B7.2A6.
10B19.25B10.6B$6.29B8.A8.4B.2B7.A13.25B9.6B$6.17B.B.2B16.3A6.4B7.3A
12.27B9.6B$7.15B4.3B17.A7.4B5.A15.27B8.6B$7.15B5.A2B.2A22.4B4.2A15.
25B10.6B$8.13B5.A.A2B.A15.2A6.9B14.21B.4B.2B2.2A2.6B$10.13B2.A.AB2.A
17.A7.6B14.20B5.3B2ABA2.A3.6B$9.8B4.2A.A.A3.A18.A.2A5.6B3.B2.2B2.20B
10.ABAB3A3.6B$9.6B6.2ABA2.4A.A17.A2.A4.36B10.A.A8.6B$9.5B8.B2.A.A3.A.
A17.2AB3.27B.9B8.3A.5A3.6B$9.B.B9.2A.2A2.A2.A.A18.14B2A16B2.7B8.A3.A
4.A4.6B$10.3B9.A.A2.2A3.A20.13B2A16B3.5B9.2A2.A.A6.6B$9.B2AB9.A.A29.
29B5.3B15.2A7.6B$10.2A11.A30.17B.B.2B10.7B21.6B$55.15B4.3B9.2A.B.2A
22.6B$55.15B5.A2B.2A6.A3.A22.6B$56.13B5.A.A2B.A3.3A5.3A20.6B$58.13B2.
A.AB2.A4.A9.A19.6B$57.8B4.2A.A.A3.A36.6B$57.6B6.2ABA2.4A.A33.6B$57.5B
8.B2.A.A3.A.A33.6B$57.B.B9.2A.2A2.A2.A.A32.6B$58.3B9.A.A2.2A3.A34.6B$
57.B2AB9.A.A41.6B$58.2A11.A43.6B!
#C [[ STEP 5 STOP 575 ]]
A G-to-MWSS turned up today with four ticks longer conversion time, but a repeat time of 90, a smaller bounding box and much lower population (203 instead of 336):

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x = 105, y = 73, rule = LifeHistory
92.2A$91.B2A2B3.2A$92.4B2.B2AB$66.A21.B.6B3.2B$64.3A19.10B2.2B$46.2B
15.A22.11B2A2B$45.4B14.2A20.12B2A3B.B$45.4B15.B20.18B2A$41.B2.6B14.3B
19.15B.B2A$40.2AB.2B2A2B13.6B16.15B3.B$40.2A3BA2BA3B.B8.10B11.17B$41.
2B.2B2A7B3.2B2.11B3.2B2.19B$44.18BD3B2A15BD15B$45.17B2D2B2A15BDBD4B.
7B$45.18B2D18B3D4B2.6B$45.18BD21BD4B2.7B$44.18BD26B4.6B$42.B.13B2.B4.
13B.4B10.6B$41.2A14B7.7B.B5.3B12.5B$41.2A4BD9B19.4B13.6B$42.2B.B3D7B
20.2A15.6B$45.D2B2D6B21.A15.7B$45.10B19.3A16.7B$41.2A2.6B23.A17.8B$.A
38.A.A9B40.8B$2BA37.A3.9B38.8B$3AB35.2A3.9B39.2B2A3B$.4B39.9B39.2B2A
5B$2.4B38.9B35.13B$3.4B36.11B32.16B$4.4B10.A24.11B32.17B$5.4B7.3A24.
12B31.16B$6.4B5.A21.B4.14B30.15B$7.4B4.2A19.3B3.10B.4B30.13B$2A6.9B
17.6B2.16B30.11B$.A7.6B13.4B2.7B.17B27.13B$.A.2A5.6B3.B2.2B2.29B.4B
25.14B$2.A2.A4.19BD25B2.4B24.16B.B.B$3.2AB3.20BDBD23B3.4B23.20B$4.14B
2A9B3DB2A21B3.4B22.15B5D$5.13B2A11BDB2A21B4.4B22.13BD4BD$6.51B4.4B19.
20BD$6.17B.B5.26B6.4B17.2A14BD3BDB$7.15B10.B2.20B8.4B16.ABA15BD.B$7.
15B12.20B.B.B6.4B14.2BA9B2A4B$8.13B12.24B2A6.4B14.10BA2BA2B$10.13B10.
24B2A7.4B14.3B.6B2A2B$9.8B4.2A.A6.2AB2.5B2.12B.2B9.4B20.6B$9.6B6.2AB
3A3.A.AB2.4B3.13B12.4B20.6B$9.5B8.B4.A2.A14.11B.B11.4B19.6B$9.B.B9.2A
.3A2.2A14.12B2A11.4B10.A6.6B$10.3B9.A.A20.10B.B2A12.4B7.3A5.9B$9.B2AB
9.A.A18.2AB.6B4.B14.4B5.A7.4B4.2A$10.2A11.A18.A.AB.4B22.4B4.2A5.4B5.A
$42.A5.5B21.9B4.4B7.3A$41.2A8.2A22.6B5.4B10.A$51.A23.8B2.4B$52.3A18.
15B$54.A18.14B$73.13B$71.2AB.10B$70.A.AB3.B2A3B$70.A6.B2A3B$69.2A6.4B
$78.3B$79.2B.BA$78.B2ABA.A$77.BABABA.A$75.A2.A.A.A.A.2A$75.4A.2A2.A2.
A$79.A4.2A$77.A.A$77.2A!
#C [[ STEP 5 STOP 579 ]]
This implies an Orthogonoid construction arm with a population in the low 300s; my best previous attempt was in the low 400s. Time to fire up slmake!

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x = 135, y = 117, rule = LifeHistory
11.2A$4.2A5.2A$4.2A127.2A$38.A94.2A$38.3A$6.2A33.A$6.2A32.2A$2A$2A$
57.2A4.2A$56.A2.A3.2A$57.2A$37.2A$37.2A5$62.2A$62.2A$27.2A$27.A$28.3A
$30.A31.2A$62.A.A$64.A$9.2A53.2A$9.2A$92.A27.2A3.2A$92.3A25.2A3.2A$
95.A$94.2A$132.2A$132.A$130.A.A$130.2A2$91.2A$91.2A$70.2A$70.2A2$20.
2A105.2A$19.A.A105.A$9.2A9.A77.2A28.3A$8.A2.A34.2A50.A31.A$9.2A35.2A
51.3A$72.2A27.A$72.A.A$74.A$20.A25.2A26.2A$20.3A23.2A$6.2A15.A36.2A
52.2A$7.A14.2A36.A.A51.2A$4.3A55.A59.2A$4.A47.2A8.2A58.A$53.A69.3A$
50.3A72.A$50.A$124.A$32.2A89.A.A$25.2A5.A.A88.A.A$25.2A7.A87.2A.3A$
34.2A92.A$122.2A.3A$21.A100.2A.A$20.A.A.2A$20.A.A.A.A87.2A$17.2A.A.A.
A.A2.A75.2A7.2A$17.A2.A2.2A.4A76.A$19.2A4.A80.A.A$25.A.A79.2A$26.2A3$
127.2A$127.2A5$112.A$111.A.A$111.A.A$112.A$87.2A20.3A$88.A20.A$86.A$
86.5A14.2A$91.A13.A$88.3A12.A.A$87.A15.2A$87.4A$85.2A3.A3.2A$84.A2.3A
4.2A$84.2A.A$87.A$87.2A3$95.2A$96.A$93.3A$93.A4$34.2A50.5A$31.3A.2A
48.A4.A26.2A$31.5A54.A26.2A$32.3A50.A3.A$87.A$114.2A$114.A.A$112.A.A.
3A$112.2A5.A$118.2A!
It will take a couple of Fx77s and a little adjustment to make it Hashlife-friendly and easily buildable by slmake, but it will still be fairly compact compared to everything I've managed to build before this.

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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Post by chris_c » June 6th, 2017, 7:30 pm

dvgrn wrote: A G-to-MWSS turned up today with four ticks longer conversion time, but a repeat time of 90, a smaller bounding box and much lower population (203 instead of 336)
Looks good. I had a play around with Hersrch and came up with the following Orthogonoid design. The offset is 256 cells in 3*2^10 generations. It takes out one Snark in favour of L156 and Lx138 and doesn't require any extra Fx77's to make the timing nice. How do you think it would compare? (I've peeked at slmake but not very seriously)

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x = 397, y = 305, rule = LifeHistory
123.2A$122.B2A2B3.2A$123.4B2.B2AB$97.A21.B.6B3.2B$95.3A19.10B2.2B$77.
2B15.A22.11B2A2B$76.4B14.2A20.12B2A3B.B$76.4B15.B20.18B2A$72.B2.6B14.
3B19.15B.B2A$71.2AB.2B2A2B13.6B16.15B3.B$71.2A3BA2BA3B.B8.10B11.17B$
72.2B.2B2A7B3.2B2.11B3.2B2.19B$75.22B2A31B$76.21B2A22B.7B$76.45B2.6B$
76.45B2.7B$75.45B4.6B$73.B.13B2.B4.13B.4B10.6B$72.2AB.12B7.7B.B5.3B
12.5B$72.2A14B19.4B13.6B$73.2B.11B20.2A15.6B$76.11B21.A15.7B$76.10B
19.3A16.7B$72.2A2.6B23.A17.8B$71.A.A9B40.8B$71.A3.9B38.8B$70.2A3.9B
39.2B2A3B$75.9B39.2B2A5B$28.A14.A31.9B35.13B$27.A.A11.3A30.11B32.16B$
27.A.A10.A33.11B32.17B$25.3A.2A9.2A32.12B31.16B$24.A4.B11.B26.B4.14B
30.15B$25.3AB2A2.B2A5.3B23.3B3.10B.4B30.13B$27.A.2A2.B2A4.6B19.6B2.
16B30.11B$29.7B3.10B10.4B2.7B.17B27.13B$31.19B3.2B2.29B.4B25.14B$30.
13B2A41B2.4B24.16B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.
B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B
.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B$31.12B2A
41B3.4B23.198B$32.32B2A21B3.4B22.195B5D$25.2A5.32B2A21B4.4B22.193BD4B
D$26.A5.56B4.4B19.200BD$26.A.AB2.8B.13B.B5.26B6.4B17.2A194BD3BD$27.2A
B.9B.7B.B13.B2.20B8.4B16.ABA16B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B
.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.
B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B
.B.D$29.11B25.20B.B.B6.4B14.2BA9B2A4B$29.11B13.2A9.24B2A6.4B14.6B.3BA
2BA2B$29.9B.B2A12.A9.24B2A7.4B14.3B3.4B2A2B$30.7B2.BA.A8.3A8.2AB2.5B
2.12B.2B9.4B20.6B$29.8B5.A8.A9.A.AB2.4B3.13B12.4B20.6B$30.8B4.2A17.A
14.11B.B11.4B19.6B$31.7B22.2A14.12B2A11.4B10.A6.6B$28.11B37.10B.B2A
12.4B7.3A5.9B$27.11B36.2AB.6B4.B14.4B5.A7.4B4.2A$27.11B35.A.AB.4B22.
4B4.2A5.4B5.A$27.11B35.A5.5B21.9B4.4B7.3A$27.8B2.B2A32.2A8.2A22.6B5.
4B10.A$27.7B3.BA.A41.A23.8B2.4B$27.7B6.A42.3A18.15B$B26.6B7.2A43.A18.
14B$2B24.7B71.13B$3B22.8B69.2AB.10B$4B20.8B69.A.AB3.B2A3B$.4B19.8B69.
A6.B2A3B$2.4B16.2AB2.6B67.2A6.4B$3.4B14.A.AB.7B76.3B$4.4B13.A4.6B78.
2B.BA$5.4B11.2A4.6B77.B2ABA.A$6.4B16.6B76.BABABA.A$7.4B14.8B73.A2.A.A
.A.A.2A$8.4B14.8B72.4A.2A2.A2.A$9.4B12.9B76.A4.2A$10.4B11.9B74.A.A$
11.4B10.10B73.2A$12.4B9.5B2A3B$13.4B8.5B2A4B3.2A$14.4B7.11B3.A$15.4B
6.12BA.A$16.4B7.8B2.2A$17.4B6.7B$18.4B5.6B$19.4B4.6B$20.4B3.7B$21.12B
$22.11B6.A46.A$23.10B4.3A44.3A$22.B.10B2.A11.A34.A$21.A2B.8B3.2A8.3A
15.A18.2A7.2A3.2A$20.A.A15B7.A18.3A14.4B6.B2AB.B2AB$21.AB.12B5.B3.2A
20.A12.3B5.B3.3B2.2B$24.13B2.8B19.2A11.4B3.4B.3B.3B$25.20B21.B11.13B.
7B5.2A$25.20B19.3B9.23B5.A$23.2AB.19B16.6B4.8B.19B.BA.A$22.A.AB.21B
11.10B2.29B.B2A$22.A4.24B2.2B3.44B$21.2A2.4B4.30B2A37B$25.2A7.6B.22B
2A37B$26.A5.5B.B2.60B$23.3A6.2A7.58B$23.A9.A8.59B$30.3A16.4B.13B4.25B
3.2A$30.A19.4B4.B.7B4.B4.20B3.A$51.4B15.2A7.15B6.3A$52.4B14.A12.11B8.
A$53.4B14.3A8.13B$54.4B15.A7.15B$55.4B21.16B$56.4B19.17B$57.4B19.16B$
58.4B19.13B$59.4B18.5B2A2B.3B$60.4B19.3B2A2B2.4B$61.4B18.8B3.2A$62.4B
16.8B4.A$63.4B15.8B5.3A$64.4B14.7B8.A$65.4B13.7B$66.4B13.6B7.A$67.4B
12.6B6.A.A$68.4B12.5B6.A.A$69.4B11.6B4.2A.3A$70.4B9.6B6.B4.A$71.4B8.
7B3.B2AB3A$72.4B8.8B.B2A.A$73.3B8.10B$75.B2A5.3B2A6B$75.BA.A5.2B2A6B$
78.A5.10B$78.A.AB2.11B167.2A$79.2AB.12B160.2A3.2B2AB$81.15B158.B2AB2.
4B$81.16B158.2B3.6B.B21.A$81.16B.2B156.2B2.10B19.3A$81.18B2A154.2B2A
11B22.A15.2B$80.17B.B2A151.B.3B2A12B20.2A14.4B$79.4B2.8B.4B.B151.2A
18B20.B15.4B$78.4B4.7B158.2AB.15B19.3B14.6B2.B$77.4B5.6B160.B3.15B16.
6B13.2B2A2B.B2A$76.4B6.4B166.17B11.10B8.B.3BA2BA3B2A$75.4B5.A3B169.
19B2.2B3.11B2.2B3.7B2A2B.2B$74.4B5.A.AB170.31B2A22B$73.4B6.A.A172.7B.
22B2A21B$72.4B8.A173.6B2.45B$71.4B6.3A173.7B2.45B$70.4B7.A175.6B4.45B
$69.4B185.6B10.4B.13B4.B2.13B.B$68.4B186.5B12.3B5.B.7B7.12B.B2A$67.4B
186.6B13.4B19.14B2A$66.4B187.6B15.2A20.11B.2B$65.4B187.7B15.A21.11B$
64.4B188.7B16.3A19.10B$63.4B189.8B17.A23.6B2.2A$62.4B190.8B40.9BA.A$
61.4B192.8B38.9B3.A$60.4B193.3B2A2B39.9B3.2A$59.4B192.5B2A2B39.9B$58.
4B193.13B35.9B31.A14.A$57.4B193.16B32.11B30.3A11.A.A$56.4B193.17B32.
11B33.A10.A.A$55.4B195.16B31.12B32.2A9.2A.3A$54.4B197.15B30.14B4.B26.
B11.B4.A$53.4B199.13B30.4B.10B3.3B23.3B5.2AB2.2AB3A$52.4B201.11B30.
16B2.6B19.6B4.2AB2.2A.A$51.4B202.13B27.17B.7B2.4B10.10B3.7B$50.4B203.
14B25.4B.29B2.2B3.19B$49.5B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B
.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.
B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B
.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.16B24.4B2.41B2A13B$47.224B23.4B3.41B2A12B$44.B.
225B22.4B3.21B2A32B$43.2A225B22.4B4.21B2A32B5.2A$43.2A227B19.4B4.56B
5.A$44.B2.224B2A17.4B6.26B5.B.13B.8B2.BA.A$46.2B2.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B
.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.
B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B
.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.16BABA16.4B8.20B2.B13.
B.7B.9B.B2A$46.2AB207.4B2A9BA2B14.4B6.B.B.20B25.11B$45.A.A209.2BA2BA
3B.6B14.4B6.2A24B9.2A13.11B$43.3A.A.A208.2B2A4B3.3B14.4B7.2A24B9.A12.
2AB.9B$42.A5.2A209.6B20.4B9.2B.12B2.5B2.B2A8.3A8.A.AB2.7B$42.2A214.6B
20.4B12.13B3.4B2.BA.A9.A8.A5.8B38.B$258.6B19.4B11.B.11B14.A17.2A4.8B
38.2B$259.6B6.A10.4B11.2A12B14.2A22.7B38.3B$257.9B5.3A7.4B12.2AB.10B
37.11B34.4B$257.2A4.4B7.A5.4B14.B4.6B.B2A36.11B32.4B$258.A5.4B5.2A4.
4B22.4B.BA.A35.11B31.4B$255.3A7.4B4.9B21.5B5.A35.11B30.4B$255.A10.4B
5.6B22.2A8.2A32.2AB2.8B29.4B$267.4B2.8B23.A41.A.AB3.7B28.4B$268.15B
18.3A42.A6.7B27.4B$269.14B18.A43.2A7.6B26.4B$270.13B71.7B24.4B$271.
10B.B2A69.8B22.4B$273.3B2AB3.BA.A69.8B20.4B$273.3B2AB6.A69.8B19.4B$
275.4B6.2A67.6B2.B2A16.4B$275.3B76.7B.BA.A14.4B$272.AB.2B78.6B4.A13.
4B$271.A.AB2AB77.6B4.2A11.4B$271.A.ABABAB76.6B16.4B$268.2A.A.A.A.A2.A
73.8B14.4B$268.A2.A2.2A.4A72.8B14.4B$270.2A4.A76.9B12.4B$276.A.A74.9B
11.4B$277.2A73.10B10.4B$352.3B2A5B9.4B$346.2A3.4B2A5B8.4B$347.A3.11B
7.4B$347.A.A12B6.4B$348.2A2.8B7.4B$353.7B6.4B$354.6B5.4B$354.6B4.4B$
353.7B3.4B$354.12B$300.A46.A6.11B$300.3A44.3A4.10B$303.A34.A11.A2.10B
.B$288.2A3.2A7.2A18.A15.3A8.2A3.8B.2BA$287.B2AB.B2AB6.4B14.3A18.A7.
15BA.A$288.2B2.3B3.B5.3B12.A20.2A3.B5.12B.BA$289.3B.3B.4B3.4B11.2A19.
8B2.13B$281.2A5.7B.13B11.B21.20B$282.A5.23B9.3B19.20B$282.A.AB.19B.8B
4.6B16.19B.B2A$283.2AB.29B2.10B11.21B.BA.A$285.44B3.2B2.24B4.A$285.
37B2A30B4.4B2.2A$285.37B2A22B.6B7.2A$286.60B2.B.5B5.A$288.58B7.2A6.3A
$286.59B8.A9.A$286.2A3.25B4.13B.4B16.3A$287.A3.20B4.B4.7B.B4.4B19.A$
284.3A6.15B7.2A15.4B$284.A8.11B12.A14.4B$292.13B8.3A14.4B$291.15B7.A
15.4B$291.16B21.4B$291.17B19.4B$291.16B19.4B$293.13B19.4B$293.3B.2B2A
5B18.4B$291.4B2.2B2A3B19.4B$291.2A3.8B18.4B$292.A4.8B16.4B$289.3A5.8B
15.4B$289.A8.7B14.4B$298.7B13.4B$290.A7.6B13.4B$289.A.A6.6B12.4B$289.
A.A6.5B12.4B$287.3A.2A4.6B11.4B$286.A4.B6.6B9.4B$287.3AB2AB3.7B8.4B$
289.A.2AB.8B8.4B$293.10B8.3B$293.6B2A3B5.2AB$293.6B2A2B5.A.AB$293.10B
5.A$292.11B2.BA.A$292.12B.B2A$291.15B$290.16B$287.2B.16B$286.2A18B$
286.2AB.17B$287.B.4B.8B2.4B$294.7B4.4B$295.6B5.4B$297.4B6.4B$299.3BA
5.4B$300.BA.A5.4B$301.A.A6.4B$302.A8.4B$303.3A6.4B$305.A7.4B$314.4B$
315.4B$316.4B$317.4B$318.4B$319.4B$320.4B$321.4B$322.4B$323.4B$324.4B
$325.4B$326.4B$327.4B$328.4B$329.4B$330.4B$331.4B$332.4B$333.4B$313.B
.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.5B$311.29B$311.5A25B.B$310.A4BA26B2A$312.3BA26B2A$
310.A.2BA25B2.B$312.A.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B2.2B$338.B2A$339.A.A$
337.A.A.3A$337.2A5.A$343.2A!

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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Post by Extrementhusiast » June 6th, 2017, 8:10 pm

In other news, I found a more promising lead for the other other transparent block for the B-heptomino (the one involving a bookend):

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x = 24, y = 31, rule = LifeHistory
7.A$6.A.A$6.A.A$5.2A.A.2A$4.A4.A.A$5.3A.A$7.A.2A11$20.A.2A$20.2A.A4$
2C$2C3$5.C$4.3C$3.2C.C$12.2A$12.2A!
The reaction takes care of the two other blocks, yet leaves the transparent block (and the main catalyst) untouched for a surprisingly long time. (The catalysis on the right does not have to be the one that I showed; most things around that general area would work.)
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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Post by dvgrn » June 6th, 2017, 10:48 pm

chris_c wrote:I had a play around with Hersrch and came up with the following Orthogonoid design. The offset is 256 cells in 3*2^10 generations. It takes out one Snark in favour of L156 and Lx138 and doesn't require any extra Fx77's to make the timing nice. How do you think it would compare? (I've peeked at slmake but not very seriously)
Hm, 400 cells exactly -- that's certainly better than any of my efforts before today. Probably it's quite competitive. Luckily it's so easy to run slmake that we can just try every likely option we think of, and see which one happens to come out shortest.

That factor of three in your Orthogonoid timing isn't really there, of course -- in practice we'll just widen the spacing to whatever the next power of two is, and see if Golly can run away with the resulting spaceship.

I haven't looked in the database to see if slmake knows how to build edgy integrals, come to think of it. But really Orthogonoid405 might end up being just about as cheap as Orthogonoid400 anyway.

I suspect that Orthogonoid325 will squeak in ahead of Orthogonoid400, just because Snarks aren't really all that expensive, and distance _is_ kind of expensive -- the extra block moves implied by a 256-cell offset instead of a 128-cell one are going to add up. But I could easily be wrong. Will see how these two variants compile, maybe tomorrow, if no one beats me to it. Further bulletins as events warrant, on the Orthogonoid thread...

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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Post by calcyman » June 7th, 2017, 3:42 am

Ouch, these Orthogonoids are actually too difficult for the existing version of slmake. The best it manages is chris_c's Orthogonoid400, which it reduces to the following:

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x = 98833, y = 98819, rule = B3/S23
14bo14bo$14b3o11bobo$17bo10bobo$16b2o9b2ob3o$33bo$22b2o3b2ob3o$22b2o3b
2obo18$2o$2o103$108b3o$108bo$109bo126$228b3o$228bo$229bo126$364b3o$
364bo$365bo126$518b2o$517b2o$519bo126$644b2o$643b2o$645bo126$766b2o$
765b2o$767bo126$884b3o$884bo$885bo126$1026b3o$1026bo$1027bo126$1160b3o
$1160bo$1161bo126$1280b2o$1279b2o$1281bo126$1409b2o$1408b2o$1410bo126$
1526b3o$1526bo$1527bo126$1664b3o$1664bo$1665bo126$1797b3o$1797bo$1798b
o126$1916b2o$1915b2o$1917bo126$2047b2o$2046b2o$2048bo126$2170b2o$2169b
2o$2171bo126$2305b2o$2304b2o$2306bo126$2425b2o$2424b2o$2426bo126$2537b
3o$2537bo$2538bo126$2669b3o$2669bo$2670bo126$2812b3o$2812bo$2813bo126$
2944b3o$2944bo$2945bo126$3057b3o$3057bo$3058bo126$3189b3o$3189bo$3190b
o126$3315b3o$3315bo$3316bo126$3451b3o$3451bo$3452bo126$3568b3o$3568bo$
3569bo126$3704b3o$3704bo$3705bo126$3831b3o$3831bo$3832bo126$3935b3o$
3935bo$3936bo126$4059b3o$4059bo$4060bo126$4181b2o$4180b2o$4182bo126$
4292b2o$4291b2o$4293bo126$4422b2o$4421b2o$4423bo126$4530b3o$4530bo$
4531bo126$4656b3o$4656bo$4657bo126$4777b3o$4777bo$4778bo126$4913b3o$
4913bo$4914bo126$5058b3o$5058bo$5059bo126$5199b3o$5199bo$5200bo126$
5319b3o$5319bo$5320bo126$5414b3o$5414bo$5415bo126$5542b3o$5542bo$5543b
o126$5674b3o$5674bo$5675bo126$5794b3o$5794bo$5795bo126$5935b3o$5935bo$
5936bo126$6021b2o$6020b2o$6022bo126$6161b3o$6161bo$6162bo126$6303b2o$
6302b2o$6304bo126$6428b2o$6427b2o$6429bo126$6545b3o$6545bo$6546bo126$
6675b3o$6675bo$6676bo126$6814b2o$6813b2o$6815bo126$6953b2o$6952b2o$
6954bo126$7081b3o$7081bo$7082bo126$7185b3o$7185bo$7186bo126$7369b3o$
7369bo$7370bo126$7506b3o$7506bo$7507bo126$7627b3o$7627bo$7628bo126$
7766b3o$7766bo$7767bo126$7886b2o$7885b2o$7887bo126$7993b3o$7993bo$
7994bo126$8109b3o$8109bo$8110bo126$8239b2o$8238b2o$8240bo126$8368b2o$
8367b2o$8369bo126$8481b2o$8480b2o$8482bo126$8613b3o$8613bo$8614bo126$
8732b2o$8731b2o$8733bo126$8864b3o$8864bo$8865bo126$9001b3o$9001bo$
9002bo126$9121b3o$9121bo$9122bo126$9256b3o$9256bo$9257bo126$9371b2o$
9370b2o$9372bo126$9521b3o$9521bo$9522bo126$9674b2o$9673b2o$9675bo126$
9805b2o$9804b2o$9806bo126$9925b2o$9924b2o$9926bo126$10053b3o$10053bo$
10054bo126$10187b3o$10187bo$10188bo126$10302b3o$10302bo$10303bo126$
10425b3o$10425bo$10426bo126$10544b2o$10543b2o$10545bo126$10649b3o$
10649bo$10650bo126$10788b3o$10788bo$10789bo126$10904b2o$10903b2o$
10905bo126$11039b2o$11038b2o$11040bo126$11160b2o$11159b2o$11161bo126$
11280b2o$11279b2o$11281bo126$11417b3o$11417bo$11418bo126$11540b2o$
11539b2o$11541bo126$11681b2o$11680b2o$11682bo126$11797b3o$11797bo$
11798bo126$11931b2o$11930b2o$11932bo126$12031b3o$12031bo$12032bo126$
12168b3o$12168bo$12169bo126$12293b3o$12293bo$12294bo126$12421b3o$
12421bo$12422bo126$12539b2o$12538b2o$12540bo126$12700b3o$12700bo$
12701bo126$12823b3o$12823bo$12824bo126$12957b3o$12957bo$12958bo126$
13084b3o$13084bo$13085bo126$13216b2o$13215b2o$13217bo126$13344b3o$
13344bo$13345bo126$13469b3o$13469bo$13470bo126$13602b3o$13602bo$13603b
o126$13733b3o$13733bo$13734bo126$13851b2o$13850b2o$13852bo126$13980b2o
$13979b2o$13981bo126$14091b3o$14091bo$14092bo126$14215b3o$14215bo$
14216bo126$14337b3o$14337bo$14338bo126$14471b2o$14470b2o$14472bo126$
14609b3o$14609bo$14610bo126$14731b2o$14730b2o$14732bo126$14908b2o$
14907b2o$14909bo126$15040b2o$15039b2o$15041bo126$15171b2o$15170b2o$
15172bo126$15298b3o$15298bo$15299bo126$15431b3o$15431bo$15432bo126$
15563b2o$15562b2o$15564bo126$15669b2o$15668b2o$15670bo126$15799b2o$
15798b2o$15800bo126$15929b3o$15929bo$15930bo126$16055b3o$16055bo$
16056bo126$16179b3o$16179bo$16180bo126$16302b2o$16301b2o$16303bo126$
16439b3o$16439bo$16440bo126$16563b3o$16563bo$16564bo126$16696b3o$
16696bo$16697bo126$16825b2o$16824b2o$16826bo126$16946b2o$16945b2o$
16947bo126$17081b2o$17080b2o$17082bo126$17217b2o$17216b2o$17218bo126$
17331b3o$17331bo$17332bo126$17455b3o$17455bo$17456bo126$17580b2o$
17579b2o$17581bo126$17699b3o$17699bo$17700bo126$17828b2o$17827b2o$
17829bo126$17956b2o$17955b2o$17957bo126$18087b2o$18086b2o$18088bo126$
18227b2o$18226b2o$18228bo126$18357b3o$18357bo$18358bo126$18469b2o$
18468b2o$18470bo126$18599b2o$18598b2o$18600bo126$18733b2o$18732b2o$
18734bo126$18857b2o$18856b2o$18858bo126$18993b2o$18992b2o$18994bo126$
19120b2o$19119b2o$19121bo126$19250b2o$19249b2o$19251bo126$19377b3o$
19377bo$19378bo126$19494b2o$19493b2o$19495bo126$19630b3o$19630bo$
19631bo126$19745b3o$19745bo$19746bo126$19875b3o$19875bo$19876bo126$
19997b3o$19997bo$19998bo126$20131b2o$20130b2o$20132bo126$20256b3o$
20256bo$20257bo126$20367b2o$20366b2o$20368bo126$20496b3o$20496bo$
20497bo126$20624b3o$20624bo$20625bo126$20726b3o$20726bo$20727bo126$
20864b3o$20864bo$20865bo126$20993b3o$20993bo$20994bo126$21122b3o$
21122bo$21123bo126$21251b3o$21251bo$21252bo126$21380b3o$21380bo$21381b
o126$21499b3o$21499bo$21500bo126$21624b3o$21624bo$21625bo126$21756b2o$
21755b2o$21757bo126$21896b3o$21896bo$21897bo126$22024b3o$22024bo$
22025bo126$22148b3o$22148bo$22149bo126$22280b2o$22279b2o$22281bo126$
22411b2o$22410b2o$22412bo126$22540b2o$22539b2o$22541bo126$22657b3o$
22657bo$22658bo126$22795b3o$22795bo$22796bo126$22919b3o$22919bo$22920b
o126$23052b3o$23052bo$23053bo126$23191b2o$23190b2o$23192bo126$23318b2o
$23317b2o$23319bo126$23440b3o$23440bo$23441bo126$23574b3o$23574bo$
23575bo126$23709b2o$23708b2o$23710bo126$23841b3o$23841bo$23842bo126$
23961b2o$23960b2o$23962bo126$24085b2o$24084b2o$24086bo126$24216b3o$
24216bo$24217bo126$24332b2o$24331b2o$24333bo126$24457b2o$24456b2o$
24458bo126$24574b3o$24574bo$24575bo126$24704b3o$24704bo$24705bo126$
24820b3o$24820bo$24821bo126$24954b3o$24954bo$24955bo126$25099b2o$
25098b2o$25100bo126$25237b3o$25237bo$25238bo126$25366b3o$25366bo$
25367bo126$25488b3o$25488bo$25489bo126$25602b3o$25602bo$25603bo126$
25737b3o$25737bo$25738bo126$25862b3o$25862bo$25863bo126$25983b2o$
25982b2o$25984bo126$26105b2o$26104b2o$26106bo126$26239b3o$26239bo$
26240bo126$26369b3o$26369bo$26370bo126$26504b3o$26504bo$26505bo126$
26627b3o$26627bo$26628bo126$26740b3o$26740bo$26741bo126$26877b2o$
26876b2o$26878bo126$26990b3o$26990bo$26991bo126$27115b3o$27115bo$
27116bo126$27234b2o$27233b2o$27235bo126$27385b2o$27384b2o$27386bo126$
27504b3o$27504bo$27505bo126$27629b2o$27628b2o$27630bo126$27764b3o$
27764bo$27765bo126$27893b3o$27893bo$27894bo126$28023b2o$28022b2o$
28024bo126$28150b2o$28149b2o$28151bo126$28277b2o$28276b2o$28278bo126$
28402b2o$28401b2o$28403bo126$28541b3o$28541bo$28542bo126$28678b3o$
28678bo$28679bo126$28799b3o$28799bo$28800bo126$28938b3o$28938bo$28939b
o126$29058b2o$29057b2o$29059bo126$29165b3o$29165bo$29166bo126$29281b3o
$29281bo$29282bo126$29411b2o$29410b2o$29412bo126$29542b3o$29542bo$
29543bo126$29656b2o$29655b2o$29657bo126$29782b2o$29781b2o$29783bo126$
29916b3o$29916bo$29917bo126$30061b3o$30061bo$30062bo126$30194b3o$
30194bo$30195bo126$30321b3o$30321bo$30322bo126$30437b3o$30437bo$30438b
o126$30572b3o$30572bo$30573bo126$30699b3o$30699bo$30700bo126$30826b3o$
30826bo$30827bo126$30953b3o$30953bo$30954bo126$31080b3o$31080bo$31081b
o126$31218b3o$31218bo$31219bo126$31337b3o$31337bo$31338bo126$31465b3o$
31465bo$31466bo126$31589b2o$31588b2o$31590bo126$31734b2o$31733b2o$
31735bo126$31859b3o$31859bo$31860bo126$31986b3o$31986bo$31987bo126$
32113b3o$32113bo$32114bo126$32241b3o$32241bo$32242bo126$32369b3o$
32369bo$32370bo126$32495b3o$32495bo$32496bo126$32624b2o$32623b2o$
32625bo126$32760b3o$32760bo$32761bo126$32894b3o$32894bo$32895bo126$
33022b3o$33022bo$33023bo126$33153b3o$33153bo$33154bo126$33279b3o$
33279bo$33280bo126$33416b2o$33415b2o$33417bo126$33515b3o$33515bo$
33516bo126$33652b2o$33651b2o$33653bo126$33763b3o$33763bo$33764bo126$
33907b2o$33906b2o$33908bo126$34045b3o$34045bo$34046bo126$34177b3o$
34177bo$34178bo126$34304b3o$34304bo$34305bo126$34427b3o$34427bo$34428b
o126$34554b3o$34554bo$34555bo126$34674b3o$34674bo$34675bo126$34803b3o$
34803bo$34804bo126$34956b2o$34955b2o$34957bo126$35081b2o$35080b2o$
35082bo126$35213b2o$35212b2o$35214bo126$35328b3o$35328bo$35329bo126$
35463b3o$35463bo$35464bo126$35586b3o$35586bo$35587bo126$35782b3o$
35782bo$35783bo126$35903b3o$35903bo$35904bo126$36048b3o$36048bo$36049b
o126$36177b3o$36177bo$36178bo126$36299b3o$36299bo$36300bo126$36441b2o$
36440b2o$36442bo126$36566b2o$36565b2o$36567bo126$36694b2o$36693b2o$
36695bo126$36827b2o$36826b2o$36828bo126$36961b2o$36960b2o$36962bo126$
37058b2o$37057b2o$37059bo126$37189b3o$37189bo$37190bo126$37317b3o$
37317bo$37318bo126$37450b3o$37450bo$37451bo126$37591b3o$37591bo$37592b
o126$37707b2o$37706b2o$37708bo126$37832b2o$37831b2o$37833bo126$37968b
2o$37967b2o$37969bo126$38093b2o$38092b2o$38094bo126$38221b3o$38221bo$
38222bo126$38342b2o$38341b2o$38343bo126$38475b3o$38475bo$38476bo126$
38616b3o$38616bo$38617bo126$38747b3o$38747bo$38748bo126$38875b3o$
38875bo$38876bo126$39007b2o$39006b2o$39008bo126$39119b2o$39118b2o$
39120bo126$39245b2o$39244b2o$39246bo126$39382b3o$39382bo$39383bo126$
39543b3o$39543bo$39544bo126$39668b3o$39668bo$39669bo126$39790b2o$
39789b2o$39791bo126$39905b2o$39904b2o$39906bo126$40025b2o$40024b2o$
40026bo126$40193b2o$40192b2o$40194bo126$40308b2o$40307b2o$40309bo126$
40429b3o$40429bo$40430bo126$40572b3o$40572bo$40573bo126$40703b3o$
40703bo$40704bo126$40834b3o$40834bo$40835bo126$40952b3o$40952bo$40953b
o126$41093b3o$41093bo$41094bo126$41213b3o$41213bo$41214bo126$41342b3o$
41342bo$41343bo126$41460b3o$41460bo$41461bo126$41595b3o$41595bo$41596b
o126$41723b2o$41722b2o$41724bo126$41860b2o$41859b2o$41861bo126$41990b
3o$41990bo$41991bo126$42073b2o$42072b2o$42074bo126$42192b2o$42191b2o$
42193bo126$42325b2o$42324b2o$42326bo126$42458b2o$42457b2o$42459bo126$
42570b3o$42570bo$42571bo126$42695b2o$42694b2o$42696bo126$42824b2o$
42823b2o$42825bo126$42953b3o$42953bo$42954bo126$43078b3o$43078bo$
43079bo126$43206b3o$43206bo$43207bo126$43323b3o$43323bo$43324bo126$
43462b2o$43461b2o$43463bo126$43601b3o$43601bo$43602bo126$43730b2o$
43729b2o$43731bo126$43874b3o$43874bo$43875bo126$44013b3o$44013bo$
44014bo126$44131b3o$44131bo$44132bo126$44275b3o$44275bo$44276bo126$
44399b3o$44399bo$44400bo126$44535b2o$44534b2o$44536bo126$44671b3o$
44671bo$44672bo126$44784b2o$44783b2o$44785bo126$44913b3o$44913bo$
44914bo126$45056b2o$45055b2o$45057bo126$45170b3o$45170bo$45171bo126$
45298b3o$45298bo$45299bo126$45427b3o$45427bo$45428bo126$45546b3o$
45546bo$45547bo126$45667b3o$45667bo$45668bo126$45812b3o$45812bo$45813b
o126$45941b3o$45941bo$45942bo126$46063b3o$46063bo$46064bo126$46182b2o$
46181b2o$46183bo126$46313b3o$46313bo$46314bo126$46441b3o$46441bo$
46442bo126$46531b3o$46531bo$46532bo126$46656b3o$46656bo$46657bo126$
46780b2o$46779b2o$46781bo126$46916b3o$46916bo$46917bo126$47045b3o$
47045bo$47046bo126$47174b2o$47173b2o$47175bo126$47293b2o$47292b2o$
47294bo126$47428b2o$47427b2o$47429bo126$47555b3o$47555bo$47556bo126$
47679b2o$47678b2o$47680bo126$47818b3o$47818bo$47819bo126$47945b3o$
47945bo$47946bo126$48073b3o$48073bo$48074bo126$48198b3o$48198bo$48199b
o126$48328b3o$48328bo$48329bo126$48450b3o$48450bo$48451bo126$48584b2o$
48583b2o$48585bo126$48701b2o$48700b2o$48702bo126$48844b2o$48843b2o$
48845bo126$48998b2o$48997b2o$48999bo126$49116b2o$49115b2o$49117bo126$
49251b2o$49250b2o$49252bo126$49368b3o$49368bo$49369bo126$49504b3o$
49504bo$49505bo126$49637b2o$49636b2o$49638bo126$49764b2o$49763b2o$
49765bo126$49891b3o$49891bo$49892bo126$50025b2o$50024b2o$50026bo126$
50161b2o$50160b2o$50162bo126$50291b2o$50290b2o$50292bo126$50408b2o$
50407b2o$50409bo126$50536b2o$50535b2o$50537bo126$50675b2o$50674b2o$
50676bo126$50804b3o$50804bo$50805bo126$50940b2o$50939b2o$50941bo126$
51058b2o$51057b2o$51059bo126$51193b2o$51192b2o$51194bo126$51310b3o$
51310bo$51311bo126$51446b3o$51446bo$51447bo126$51579b2o$51578b2o$
51580bo126$51706b2o$51705b2o$51707bo126$51833b3o$51833bo$51834bo126$
51943b2o$51942b2o$51944bo126$52070b2o$52069b2o$52071bo126$52205b3o$
52205bo$52206bo126$52332b3o$52332bo$52333bo126$52468b3o$52468bo$52469b
o126$52589b2o$52588b2o$52590bo126$52714b3o$52714bo$52715bo126$52841b3o
$52841bo$52842bo126$52978b3o$52978bo$52979bo126$53105b3o$53105bo$
53106bo126$53242b2o$53241b2o$53243bo126$53369b3o$53369bo$53370bo126$
53502b3o$53502bo$53503bo126$53617b3o$53617bo$53618bo126$53748b3o$
53748bo$53749bo126$53871b3o$53871bo$53872bo126$54008b3o$54008bo$54009b
o126$54139b3o$54139bo$54140bo126$54265b3o$54265bo$54266bo126$54391b3o$
54391bo$54392bo126$54519b2o$54518b2o$54520bo126$54647b2o$54646b2o$
54648bo126$54777b2o$54776b2o$54778bo126$54899b3o$54899bo$54900bo126$
55023b2o$55022b2o$55024bo126$55174b3o$55174bo$55175bo126$55292b3o$
55292bo$55293bo126$55421b2o$55420b2o$55422bo126$55552b2o$55551b2o$
55553bo126$55672b2o$55671b2o$55673bo126$55803b2o$55802b2o$55804bo126$
55930b2o$55929b2o$55931bo126$56061b2o$56060b2o$56062bo126$56175b2o$
56174b2o$56176bo126$56301b2o$56300b2o$56302bo126$56435b2o$56434b2o$
56436bo126$56560b3o$56560bo$56561bo126$56696b3o$56696bo$56697bo126$
56818b2o$56817b2o$56819bo126$56940b3o$56940bo$56941bo126$57077b3o$
57077bo$57078bo126$57208b3o$57208bo$57209bo126$57339b3o$57339bo$57340b
o126$57449b3o$57449bo$57450bo126$57576b3o$57576bo$57577bo126$57704b3o$
57704bo$57705bo126$57847b3o$57847bo$57848bo126$57967b2o$57966b2o$
57968bo126$58087b3o$58087bo$58088bo126$58229b2o$58228b2o$58230bo126$
58354b2o$58353b2o$58355bo126$58482b2o$58481b2o$58483bo126$58623b3o$
58623bo$58624bo126$58754b3o$58754bo$58755bo126$58868b3o$58868bo$58869b
o126$58984b2o$58983b2o$58985bo126$59113b2o$59112b2o$59114bo126$59234b
3o$59234bo$59235bo126$59368b2o$59367b2o$59369bo126$59500b2o$59499b2o$
59501bo126$59624b2o$59623b2o$59625bo126$59749b2o$59748b2o$59750bo126$
59876b2o$59875b2o$59877bo126$60011b3o$60011bo$60012bo126$60157b3o$
60157bo$60158bo126$60285b3o$60285bo$60286bo126$60402b2o$60401b2o$
60403bo126$60540b3o$60540bo$60541bo126$60662b3o$60662bo$60663bo126$
60790b3o$60790bo$60791bo126$60862b3o$60862bo$60863bo126$60989b3o$
60989bo$60990bo126$61119b2o$61118b2o$61120bo126$61250b3o$61250bo$
61251bo126$61378b3o$61378bo$61379bo126$61510b2o$61509b2o$61511bo126$
61628b2o$61627b2o$61629bo126$61777b2o$61776b2o$61778bo126$61913b2o$
61912b2o$61914bo126$62034b2o$62033b2o$62035bo126$62154b2o$62153b2o$
62155bo126$62307b3o$62307bo$62308bo126$62430b3o$62430bo$62431bo126$
62565b2o$62564b2o$62566bo126$62659b3o$62659bo$62660bo126$62783b3o$
62783bo$62784bo126$62919b3o$62919bo$62920bo126$63046b3o$63046bo$63047b
o126$63186b2o$63185b2o$63187bo126$63309b3o$63309bo$63310bo126$63442b2o
$63441b2o$63443bo126$63559b3o$63559bo$63560bo126$63687b3o$63687bo$
63688bo126$63823b2o$63822b2o$63824bo126$63949b2o$63948b2o$63950bo126$
64072b2o$64071b2o$64073bo126$64196b2o$64195b2o$64197bo126$64319b3o$
64319bo$64320bo126$64452b2o$64451b2o$64453bo126$64584b2o$64583b2o$
64585bo126$64706b2o$64705b2o$64707bo126$64833b2o$64832b2o$64834bo126$
64966b2o$64965b2o$64967bo126$65146b3o$65146bo$65147bo126$65277b2o$
65276b2o$65278bo126$65394b3o$65394bo$65395bo126$65522b3o$65522bo$
65523bo126$65650b2o$65649b2o$65651bo126$65779b3o$65779bo$65780bo126$
65892b3o$65892bo$65893bo126$66026b2o$66025b2o$66027bo126$66152b2o$
66151b2o$66153bo126$66289b2o$66288b2o$66290bo126$66412b2o$66411b2o$
66413bo126$66541b3o$66541bo$66542bo126$66666b3o$66666bo$66667bo126$
66786b3o$66786bo$66787bo126$66918b2o$66917b2o$66919bo126$67051b3o$
67051bo$67052bo126$67173b3o$67173bo$67174bo126$67333b2o$67332b2o$
67334bo126$67444b2o$67443b2o$67445bo126$67567b2o$67566b2o$67568bo126$
67701b3o$67701bo$67702bo126$67822b3o$67822bo$67823bo126$67967b3o$
67967bo$67968bo126$68096b3o$68096bo$68097bo126$68218b3o$68218bo$68219b
o126$68337b2o$68336b2o$68338bo126$68468b3o$68468bo$68469bo126$68596b3o
$68596bo$68597bo126$68725b2o$68724b2o$68726bo126$68856b2o$68855b2o$
68857bo126$68972b2o$68971b2o$68973bo126$69102b2o$69101b2o$69103bo126$
69243b2o$69242b2o$69244bo126$69379b2o$69378b2o$69380bo126$69490b2o$
69489b2o$69491bo126$69617b2o$69616b2o$69618bo126$69750b3o$69750bo$
69751bo126$69874b2o$69873b2o$69875bo126$69998b2o$69997b2o$69999bo126$
70130b2o$70129b2o$70131bo126$70261b2o$70260b2o$70262bo126$70390b2o$
70389b2o$70391bo126$70530b2o$70529b2o$70531bo126$70659b2o$70658b2o$
70660bo126$70765b3o$70765bo$70766bo126$70858b3o$70858bo$70859bo126$
70976b3o$70976bo$70977bo126$71114b3o$71114bo$71115bo126$71237b3o$
71237bo$71238bo126$71370b3o$71370bo$71371bo126$71496b2o$71495b2o$
71497bo126$71616b3o$71616bo$71617bo126$71745b3o$71745bo$71746bo126$
71883b3o$71883bo$71884bo126$72001b3o$72001bo$72002bo126$72129b3o$
72129bo$72130bo126$72261b3o$72261bo$72262bo126$72397b3o$72397bo$72398b
o126$72516b3o$72516bo$72517bo126$72651b3o$72651bo$72652bo126$72786b3o$
72786bo$72787bo126$72917b2o$72916b2o$72918bo126$73039b2o$73038b2o$
73040bo126$73153b3o$73153bo$73154bo126$73277b3o$73277bo$73278bo126$
73412b3o$73412bo$73413bo126$73523b3o$73523bo$73524bo126$73650b3o$
73650bo$73651bo126$73784b3o$73784bo$73785bo126$73923b2o$73922b2o$
73924bo126$74046b3o$74046bo$74047bo126$74174b3o$74174bo$74175bo126$
74279b2o$74278b2o$74280bo126$74407b2o$74406b2o$74408bo126$74546b3o$
74546bo$74547bo126$74664b2o$74663b2o$74665bo126$74787b2o$74786b2o$
74788bo126$74913b2o$74912b2o$74914bo126$75056b3o$75056bo$75057bo126$
75194b2o$75193b2o$75195bo126$75314b2o$75313b2o$75315bo126$75448b2o$
75447b2o$75449bo126$75578b2o$75577b2o$75579bo126$75703b3o$75703bo$
75704bo126$75831b2o$75830b2o$75832bo126$75949b2o$75948b2o$75950bo126$
76084b2o$76083b2o$76085bo126$76184b2o$76183b2o$76185bo126$76329b3o$
76329bo$76330bo126$76465b3o$76465bo$76466bo126$76598b2o$76597b2o$
76599bo126$76725b2o$76724b2o$76726bo126$76852b3o$76852bo$76853bo126$
76955b3o$76955bo$76956bo126$77082b3o$77082bo$77083bo126$77219b3o$
77219bo$77220bo126$77341b2o$77340b2o$77342bo126$77463b3o$77463bo$
77464bo126$77583b2o$77582b2o$77584bo126$77732b2o$77731b2o$77733bo126$
77861b3o$77861bo$77862bo126$77994b3o$77994bo$77995bo126$78111b2o$
78110b2o$78112bo126$78239b2o$78238b2o$78240bo126$78381b2o$78380b2o$
78382bo126$78507b2o$78506b2o$78508bo126$78629b3o$78629bo$78630bo126$
78738b3o$78738bo$78739bo126$78876b2o$78875b2o$78877bo126$79000b2o$
78999b2o$79001bo126$79136b2o$79135b2o$79137bo126$79258b2o$79257b2o$
79259bo126$79382b3o$79382bo$79383bo126$79527b2o$79526b2o$79528bo126$
79650b3o$79650bo$79651bo126$79768b2o$79767b2o$79769bo126$79886b2o$
79885b2o$79887bo126$80021b3o$80021bo$80022bo126$80141b2o$80140b2o$
80142bo126$80273b2o$80272b2o$80274bo126$80401b2o$80400b2o$80402bo126$
80529b3o$80529bo$80530bo126$80651b3o$80651bo$80652bo126$80775b3o$
80775bo$80776bo126$80901b2o$80900b2o$80902bo126$81025b2o$81024b2o$
81026bo126$81153b2o$81152b2o$81154bo126$81280b2o$81279b2o$81281bo126$
81409b3o$81409bo$81410bo126$81543b3o$81543bo$81544bo126$81663b2o$
81662b2o$81664bo126$81803b3o$81803bo$81804bo126$81931b3o$81931bo$
81932bo126$82052b2o$82051b2o$82053bo126$82173b2o$82172b2o$82174bo126$
82298b2o$82297b2o$82299bo126$82452b3o$82452bo$82453bo126$82583b3o$
82583bo$82584bo126$82701b2o$82700b2o$82702bo126$82820b2o$82819b2o$
82821bo126$82958b3o$82958bo$82959bo126$83060b2o$83059b2o$83061bo126$
83188b2o$83187b2o$83189bo126$83307b3o$83307bo$83308bo126$83452b3o$
83452bo$83453bo126$83572b2o$83571b2o$83573bo126$83694b3o$83694bo$
83695bo126$83840b3o$83840bo$83841bo126$83961b3o$83961bo$83962bo126$
84093b3o$84093bo$84094bo126$84213b3o$84213bo$84214bo126$84360b2o$
84359b2o$84361bo126$84485b3o$84485bo$84486bo126$84602b3o$84602bo$
84603bo126$84747b3o$84747bo$84748bo126$84871b3o$84871bo$84872bo126$
85013b2o$85012b2o$85014bo126$85132b3o$85132bo$85133bo126$85270b2o$
85269b2o$85271bo126$85380b2o$85379b2o$85381bo126$85502b3o$85502bo$
85503bo126$85646b3o$85646bo$85647bo126$85774b3o$85774bo$85775bo126$
85899b3o$85899bo$85900bo126$86027b3o$86027bo$86028bo126$86170b2o$
86169b2o$86171bo126$86287b2o$86286b2o$86288bo126$86418b3o$86418bo$
86419bo126$86550b3o$86550bo$86551bo126$86658b2o$86657b2o$86659bo126$
86802b3o$86802bo$86803bo126$86917b3o$86917bo$86918bo126$87046b3o$
87046bo$87047bo126$87175b3o$87175bo$87176bo126$87313b2o$87312b2o$
87314bo126$87439b2o$87438b2o$87440bo126$87565b2o$87564b2o$87566bo126$
87694b2o$87693b2o$87695bo126$87813b3o$87813bo$87814bo126$87942b2o$
87941b2o$87943bo126$88060b2o$88059b2o$88061bo126$88195b2o$88194b2o$
88196bo126$88312b3o$88312bo$88313bo126$88448b3o$88448bo$88449bo126$
88581b2o$88580b2o$88582bo126$88708b2o$88707b2o$88709bo126$88835b3o$
88835bo$88836bo126$88940b3o$88940bo$88941bo126$89069b3o$89069bo$89070b
o126$89275b2o$89274b2o$89276bo126$89400b3o$89400bo$89401bo126$89526b3o
$89526bo$89527bo126$89654b3o$89654bo$89655bo126$89797b2o$89796b2o$
89798bo126$89919b3o$89919bo$89920bo126$90039b2o$90038b2o$90040bo126$
90166b3o$90166bo$90167bo126$90292b2o$90291b2o$90293bo126$90438b3o$
90438bo$90439bo126$90557b2o$90556b2o$90558bo126$90741b2o$90740b2o$
90742bo126$90873b2o$90872b2o$90874bo126$91010b3o$91010bo$91011bo126$
91138b2o$91137b2o$91139bo126$91254b3o$91254bo$91255bo126$91385b3o$
91385bo$91386bo126$91508b3o$91508bo$91509bo126$91646b2o$91645b2o$
91647bo126$91773b2o$91772b2o$91774bo126$91904b2o$91903b2o$91905bo126$
92019b2o$92018b2o$92020bo126$92152b2o$92151b2o$92153bo126$92279b2o$
92278b2o$92280bo126$92409b3o$92409bo$92410bo126$92542b2o$92541b2o$
92543bo126$92669b2o$92668b2o$92670bo126$92806b3o$92806bo$92807bo126$
92924b3o$92924bo$92925bo126$93052b3o$93052bo$93053bo126$93182b2o$
93181b2o$93183bo126$93312b2o$93311b2o$93313bo126$93440b2o$93439b2o$
93441bo126$93561b3o$93561bo$93562bo126$93695b3o$93695bo$93696bo126$
93817b2o$93816b2o$93818bo126$93938b3o$93938bo$93939bo126$94078b2o$
94077b2o$94079bo126$94213b2o$94212b2o$94214bo126$94335b2o$94334b2o$
94336bo126$94474b2o$94473b2o$94475bo126$94611b3o$94611bo$94612bo126$
94737b3o$94737bo$94738bo126$94862b3o$94862bo$94863bo126$94986b3o$
94986bo$94987bo126$95125b3o$95125bo$95126bo126$95261b3o$95261bo$95262b
o126$95351b3o$95351bo$95352bo126$95475b3o$95475bo$95476bo126$95603b3o$
95603bo$95604bo126$95741b3o$95741bo$95742bo126$95862b3o$95862bo$95863b
o126$95986b3o$95986bo$95987bo126$96121b3o$96121bo$96122bo126$96249b3o$
96249bo$96250bo126$96365b3o$96365bo$96366bo126$96490b3o$96490bo$96491b
o126$96626b3o$96626bo$96627bo126$96787b3o$96787bo$96788bo126$96908b3o$
96908bo$96909bo126$97053b3o$97053bo$97054bo126$97182b3o$97182bo$97183b
o126$97304b3o$97304bo$97305bo126$97423b2o$97422b2o$97424bo126$97554b3o
$97554bo$97555bo126$97682b3o$97682bo$97683bo126$97808b3o$97808bo$
97809bo126$97935b3o$97935bo$97936bo126$98067b2o$98066b2o$98068bo126$
98195b3o$98195bo$98196bo126$98320b3o$98320bo$98321bo126$98453b3o$
98453bo$98454bo126$98584b3o$98584bo$98585bo126$98702b2o$98701b2o$
98703bo126$98831b2o$98830b2o$98832bo!
Can anyone find a way to slow-salvo construct the following constellation (in such a way that it doesn't interfere with the eater)?

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x = 12, y = 7, rule = B3/S23
7bo$6bobo$6bobo$5b2ob3o$11bo$2o3b2ob3o$2o3b2obo!
If so, you can drop the resulting synthesis (as a 2-state .mc) straight into data/bespoke, update data/bespoke/filelist.txt accordingly, and slmake should be able to complete the construction.
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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Post by dvgrn » June 7th, 2017, 8:06 am

calcyman wrote:Ouch, these Orthogonoids are actually too difficult for the existing version of slmake. The best it manages is chris_c's Orthogonoid400, which it reduces to the following...
Hm, interesting. I suspect there's nothing actually wrong with Orthogonoid325 -- I posted it at its minimum offset of EDIT:68 cells, but it should really be built with 128-cell spacing to make Hashlife happiest:

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x = 140, y = 177, rule = LifeHistory
11.2A$4.2A5.2A$4.2A$38.A$38.3A$6.2A33.A$6.2A32.2A$2A$2A132.2A$57.2A4.
2A69.2A$56.A2.A3.2A$57.2A$37.2A$37.2A5$62.2A$62.2A$27.2A$27.A$28.3A$
30.A31.2A$62.A.A$64.A$9.2A53.2A$9.2A$92.A27.2A3.2A$92.3A25.2A3.2A$95.
A$94.2A$132.2A$132.A$130.A.A$130.2A2$91.2A$91.2A$70.2A$70.2A2$20.2A
105.2A$19.A.A105.A$9.2A9.A77.2A28.3A$8.A2.A34.2A50.A31.A$9.2A35.2A51.
3A$72.2A27.A$72.A.A$74.A$20.A25.2A26.2A$20.3A23.2A$6.2A15.A36.2A52.2A
$7.A14.2A36.A.A51.2A$4.3A55.A59.2A$4.A47.2A8.2A58.A$53.A69.3A$50.3A
72.A$50.A$124.A$32.2A89.A.A$25.2A5.A.A88.A.A$25.2A7.A87.2A.3A$34.2A
92.A$122.2A.3A$21.A100.2A.A$20.A.A.2A$20.A.A.A.A87.2A$17.2A.A.A.A.A2.
A75.2A7.2A$17.A2.A2.2A.4A76.A$19.2A4.A80.A.A$25.A.A79.2A$26.2A3$127.
2A$127.2A5$112.A$111.A.A$111.A.A$112.A$109.3A$109.A19$67.2A$68.A$66.A
$66.5A14.2A$71.A13.A$68.3A12.A.A$67.A15.2A$67.4A$65.2A3.A3.2A$64.A2.
3A4.2A$64.2A.A$67.A$67.2A3$75.2A$76.A$73.3A$73.A44$54.2A50.5A$51.3A.
2A48.A4.A26.2A$51.5A54.A26.2A$52.3A50.A3.A$107.A$134.2A$134.A.A$132.A
.A.3A$132.2A5.A$138.2A!
-- Or possibly 96 cells, to make the recipe shorter and keep Hashlife reasonably content. Anyway, either of those puts the lower Snark safely out in the open where slmake should be able to handle it -- and the partial Orthogonoid400 recipe has already proven that the upper Snark is no problem.
calcyman wrote:Can anyone find a way to slow-salvo construct the following constellation (in such a way that it doesn't interfere with the eater)?
I won't have time until tonight to toss anything into data/bespoke, but I bet that altering the constellation like this will make it trivially slow-constructible, eater2 last:

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x = 24, y = 14, rule = B3/S23
12bo$4bo6bobo5bo$4b3o4b2o5bobo$7bo10bobo$6b2o9b2ob3o$23bo$17b2ob3o$b2o
14b2obo$obo$bo2$6b2o$6bobo$6bo!
There must be lots of other ways to push that block into place from below, also. If nothing else, a 4-5sL seed constellation will allow this glider collision:

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x = 20, y = 12, rule = LifeHistory
A14.A$3A11.A.A$3.A10.A.A$2.2A9.2A.3A$19.A$13.2A.3A$7.3A3.2A.A$9.A$8.A
$10.3A$10.A$11.A!
I'm a little surprised that there aren't any known block moves with enough clearance to bring that block in from out of the way, or that there aren't any eater2 recipes that can add the eater2 with the block in place. Maybe those recipes were all for variant eater2s, and didn't get collected for slmake's library?

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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Post by calcyman » June 7th, 2017, 10:21 am

dvgrn wrote:
calcyman wrote:Ouch, these Orthogonoids are actually too difficult for the existing version of slmake. The best it manages is chris_c's Orthogonoid400, which it reduces to the following...
Hm, interesting. I suspect there's nothing actually wrong with Orthogonoid325 -- I posted it at its minimum offset of EDIT:68 cells, but it should really be built with 128-cell spacing to make Hashlife happiest:
Indeed it compiles smoothly with 128-cell spacing, and is cheaper than the partial result for Orthogonoid400:

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x = 92623, y = 92675, rule = B3/S23
2o$2o127$132b3o$132bo$133bo126$252b3o$252bo$253bo126$388b3o$388bo$389b
o126$532b3o$532bo$533bo126$656b3o$656bo$657bo126$797b3o$797bo$798bo
126$920b2o$919b2o$921bo126$1044b2o$1043b2o$1045bo126$1176b2o$1175b2o$
1177bo126$1311b3o$1311bo$1312bo126$1437b2o$1436b2o$1438bo126$1565b2o$
1564b2o$1566bo126$1688b3o$1688bo$1689bo126$1805b3o$1805bo$1806bo126$
1932b3o$1932bo$1933bo126$2067b2o$2066b2o$2068bo126$2203b2o$2202b2o$
2204bo126$2344b2o$2343b2o$2345bo126$2453b3o$2453bo$2454bo126$2580b2o$
2579b2o$2581bo126$2714b2o$2713b2o$2715bo126$2838b2o$2837b2o$2839bo126$
2947b2o$2946b2o$2948bo126$3078b3o$3078bo$3079bo126$3216b2o$3215b2o$
3217bo126$3347b2o$3346b2o$3348bo126$3481b3o$3481bo$3482bo126$3639b2o$
3638b2o$3640bo126$3782b3o$3782bo$3783bo126$3906b3o$3906bo$3907bo126$
4036b3o$4036bo$4037bo126$4167b3o$4167bo$4168bo126$4321b3o$4321bo$4322b
o126$4448b3o$4448bo$4449bo126$4574b3o$4574bo$4575bo126$4694b3o$4694bo$
4695bo126$4834b2o$4833b2o$4835bo126$4975b2o$4974b2o$4976bo126$5101b2o$
5100b2o$5102bo126$5218b3o$5218bo$5219bo126$5358b3o$5358bo$5359bo126$
5487b2o$5486b2o$5488bo126$5605b2o$5604b2o$5606bo126$5740b2o$5739b2o$
5741bo126$5857b3o$5857bo$5858bo126$5993b3o$5993bo$5994bo126$6126b2o$
6125b2o$6127bo126$6253b2o$6252b2o$6254bo126$6380b3o$6380bo$6381bo126$
6443b2o$6442b2o$6444bo126$6556b2o$6555b2o$6557bo126$6669b3o$6669bo$
6670bo126$6825b3o$6825bo$6826bo126$6954b2o$6953b2o$6955bo126$7074b2o$
7073b2o$7075bo126$7210b2o$7209b2o$7211bo126$7346b2o$7345b2o$7347bo126$
7479b2o$7478b2o$7480bo126$7615b2o$7614b2o$7616bo126$7752b3o$7752bo$
7753bo126$7887b3o$7887bo$7888bo126$8014b3o$8014bo$8015bo126$8159b3o$
8159bo$8160bo126$8284b3o$8284bo$8285bo126$8416b3o$8416bo$8417bo126$
8532b3o$8532bo$8533bo126$8663b3o$8663bo$8664bo126$8801b3o$8801bo$8802b
o126$8922b3o$8922bo$8923bo126$9044b3o$9044bo$9045bo126$9176b3o$9176bo$
9177bo126$9311b2o$9310b2o$9312bo126$9428b3o$9428bo$9429bo126$9560b3o$
9560bo$9561bo126$9683b3o$9683bo$9684bo126$9811b3o$9811bo$9812bo126$
9946b3o$9946bo$9947bo126$10057b3o$10057bo$10058bo126$10184b3o$10184bo$
10185bo126$10318b3o$10318bo$10319bo126$10457b2o$10456b2o$10458bo126$
10580b3o$10580bo$10581bo126$10708b3o$10708bo$10709bo126$10835b2o$
10834b2o$10836bo126$10964b2o$10963b2o$10965bo126$11040b3o$11040bo$
11041bo126$11166b3o$11166bo$11167bo126$11290b3o$11290bo$11291bo126$
11409b3o$11409bo$11410bo126$11542b3o$11542bo$11543bo126$11673b3o$
11673bo$11674bo126$11802b2o$11801b2o$11803bo126$11935b2o$11934b2o$
11936bo126$12020b2o$12019b2o$12021bo126$12145b2o$12144b2o$12146bo126$
12265b3o$12265bo$12266bo126$12376b3o$12376bo$12377bo126$12506b3o$
12506bo$12507bo126$12618b3o$12618bo$12619bo126$12801b2o$12800b2o$
12802bo126$12931b2o$12930b2o$12932bo126$13067b2o$13066b2o$13068bo126$
13239b3o$13239bo$13240bo126$13367b3o$13367bo$13368bo126$13490b2o$
13489b2o$13491bo126$13612b2o$13611b2o$13613bo126$13749b3o$13749bo$
13750bo126$13871b2o$13870b2o$13872bo126$14007b2o$14006b2o$14008bo126$
14135b3o$14135bo$14136bo126$14278b2o$14277b2o$14279bo126$14408b2o$
14407b2o$14409bo126$14540b3o$14540bo$14541bo126$14648b2o$14647b2o$
14649bo126$14778b2o$14777b2o$14779bo126$14902b2o$14901b2o$14903bo126$
15027b3o$15027bo$15028bo126$15162b3o$15162bo$15163bo126$15300b2o$
15299b2o$15301bo126$15418b3o$15418bo$15419bo126$15542b3o$15542bo$
15543bo126$15692b2o$15691b2o$15693bo126$15821b2o$15820b2o$15822bo126$
15951b2o$15950b2o$15952bo126$16073b3o$16073bo$16074bo126$16197b3o$
16197bo$16198bo126$16340b3o$16340bo$16341bo126$16444b3o$16444bo$16445b
o126$16557b3o$16557bo$16558bo126$16689b3o$16689bo$16690bo126$16822b2o$
16821b2o$16823bo126$16960b2o$16959b2o$16961bo126$17089b3o$17089bo$
17090bo126$17212b3o$17212bo$17213bo126$17337b3o$17337bo$17338bo126$
17467b3o$17467bo$17468bo126$17578b2o$17577b2o$17579bo126$17702b2o$
17701b2o$17703bo126$17842b3o$17842bo$17843bo126$17964b2o$17963b2o$
17965bo126$18094b2o$18093b2o$18095bo126$18215b2o$18214b2o$18216bo126$
18354b3o$18354bo$18355bo126$18494b3o$18494bo$18495bo126$18621b2o$
18620b2o$18622bo126$18746b3o$18746bo$18747bo126$18881b3o$18881bo$
18882bo126$19008b3o$19008bo$19009bo126$19123b3o$19123bo$19124bo126$
19248b2o$19247b2o$19249bo126$19372b2o$19371b2o$19373bo126$19505b2o$
19504b2o$19506bo126$19639b3o$19639bo$19640bo126$19768b3o$19768bo$
19769bo126$19920b3o$19920bo$19921bo126$20054b3o$20054bo$20055bo126$
20164b3o$20164bo$20165bo126$20275b3o$20275bo$20276bo126$20406b2o$
20405b2o$20407bo126$20548b2o$20547b2o$20549bo126$20670b3o$20670bo$
20671bo126$20798b2o$20797b2o$20799bo126$20910b3o$20910bo$20911bo126$
21038b3o$21038bo$21039bo126$21172b3o$21172bo$21173bo126$21319b3o$
21319bo$21320bo126$21450b3o$21450bo$21451bo126$21580b3o$21580bo$21581b
o126$21703b3o$21703bo$21704bo126$21836b2o$21835b2o$21837bo126$21986b3o
$21986bo$21987bo126$22111b3o$22111bo$22112bo126$22239b3o$22239bo$
22240bo126$22374b3o$22374bo$22375bo126$22504b3o$22504bo$22505bo126$
22621b3o$22621bo$22622bo126$22741b3o$22741bo$22742bo126$22879b2o$
22878b2o$22880bo126$23001b2o$23000b2o$23002bo126$23119b2o$23118b2o$
23120bo126$23252b2o$23251b2o$23253bo126$23387b2o$23386b2o$23388bo126$
23499b2o$23498b2o$23500bo126$23641b2o$23640b2o$23642bo126$23767b2o$
23766b2o$23768bo126$23901b3o$23901bo$23902bo126$24016b3o$24016bo$
24017bo126$24144b2o$24143b2o$24145bo126$24268b2o$24267b2o$24269bo126$
24404b2o$24403b2o$24405bo126$24531b2o$24530b2o$24532bo126$24662b3o$
24662bo$24663bo126$24792b2o$24791b2o$24793bo126$24913b3o$24913bo$
24914bo126$25032b3o$25032bo$25033bo126$25157b3o$25157bo$25158bo126$
25289b2o$25288b2o$25290bo126$25418b3o$25418bo$25419bo126$25563b2o$
25562b2o$25564bo126$25708b3o$25708bo$25709bo126$25828b2o$25827b2o$
25829bo126$25956b2o$25955b2o$25957bo126$26080b2o$26079b2o$26081bo126$
26208b3o$26208bo$26209bo126$26331b3o$26331bo$26332bo126$26468b3o$
26468bo$26469bo126$26606b3o$26606bo$26607bo126$26734b2o$26733b2o$
26735bo126$26865b2o$26864b2o$26866bo126$26981b2o$26980b2o$26982bo126$
27106b2o$27105b2o$27107bo126$27236b3o$27236bo$27237bo126$27358b3o$
27358bo$27359bo126$27484b3o$27484bo$27485bo126$27628b2o$27627b2o$
27629bo126$27771b3o$27771bo$27772bo126$27902b3o$27902bo$27903bo126$
28022b3o$28022bo$28023bo126$28145b3o$28145bo$28146bo126$28286b3o$
28286bo$28287bo126$28418b3o$28418bo$28419bo126$28542b3o$28542bo$28543b
o126$28693b3o$28693bo$28694bo126$28812b2o$28811b2o$28813bo126$28927b3o
$28927bo$28928bo126$29066b3o$29066bo$29067bo126$29196b2o$29195b2o$
29197bo126$29321b2o$29320b2o$29322bo126$29440b3o$29440bo$29441bo126$
29562b3o$29562bo$29563bo126$29701b2o$29700b2o$29702bo126$29838b2o$
29837b2o$29839bo126$29939b3o$29939bo$29940bo126$30089b2o$30088b2o$
30090bo126$30219b3o$30219bo$30220bo126$30357b3o$30357bo$30358bo126$
30488b3o$30488bo$30489bo126$30623b2o$30622b2o$30624bo126$30740b3o$
30740bo$30741bo126$30872b3o$30872bo$30873bo126$30995b3o$30995bo$30996b
o126$31124b3o$31124bo$31125bo126$31252b3o$31252bo$31253bo126$31383b3o$
31383bo$31384bo126$31515b3o$31515bo$31516bo126$31642b3o$31642bo$31643b
o126$31761b3o$31761bo$31762bo126$31897b2o$31896b2o$31898bo126$32030b3o
$32030bo$32031bo126$32151b3o$32151bo$32152bo126$32271b3o$32271bo$
32272bo126$32381b3o$32381bo$32382bo126$32477b3o$32477bo$32478bo126$
32596b3o$32596bo$32597bo126$32725b3o$32725bo$32726bo126$32843b3o$
32843bo$32844bo126$32890b2o$32889b2o$32891bo126$33021b2o$33020b2o$
33022bo126$33141b2o$33140b2o$33142bo126$33265b2o$33264b2o$33266bo126$
33404b2o$33403b2o$33405bo126$33536b3o$33536bo$33537bo126$33668b2o$
33667b2o$33669bo126$33781b2o$33780b2o$33782bo126$33906b2o$33905b2o$
33907bo126$34023b3o$34023bo$34024bo126$34153b3o$34153bo$34154bo126$
34292b2o$34291b2o$34293bo126$34431b2o$34430b2o$34432bo126$34559b3o$
34559bo$34560bo126$34663b3o$34663bo$34664bo126$34839b3o$34839bo$34840b
o126$34960b3o$34960bo$34961bo126$35088b3o$35088bo$35089bo126$35213b3o$
35213bo$35214bo126$35351b3o$35351bo$35352bo126$35482b2o$35481b2o$
35483bo126$35616b3o$35616bo$35617bo126$35749b2o$35748b2o$35750bo126$
35865b3o$35865bo$35866bo126$36001b3o$36001bo$36002bo126$36122b3o$
36122bo$36123bo126$36251b3o$36251bo$36252bo126$36364b3o$36364bo$36365b
o126$36504b2o$36503b2o$36505bo126$36636b3o$36636bo$36637bo126$36766b2o
$36765b2o$36767bo126$36891b2o$36890b2o$36892bo126$37016b2o$37015b2o$
37017bo126$37154b3o$37154bo$37155bo126$37289b3o$37289bo$37290bo126$
37387b3o$37387bo$37388bo126$37507b3o$37507bo$37508bo126$37637b2o$
37636b2o$37638bo126$37766b2o$37765b2o$37767bo126$37879b2o$37878b2o$
37880bo126$38011b3o$38011bo$38012bo126$38130b2o$38129b2o$38131bo126$
38262b3o$38262bo$38263bo126$38399b3o$38399bo$38400bo126$38519b3o$
38519bo$38520bo126$38654b3o$38654bo$38655bo126$38769b2o$38768b2o$
38770bo126$38919b3o$38919bo$38920bo126$39055b3o$39055bo$39056bo126$
39174b2o$39173b2o$39175bo126$39279b3o$39279bo$39280bo126$39418b3o$
39418bo$39419bo126$39534b2o$39533b2o$39535bo126$39669b2o$39668b2o$
39670bo126$39790b2o$39789b2o$39791bo126$39910b2o$39909b2o$39911bo126$
40047b3o$40047bo$40048bo126$40170b2o$40169b2o$40171bo126$40311b2o$
40310b2o$40312bo126$40427b3o$40427bo$40428bo126$40561b2o$40560b2o$
40562bo126$40661b3o$40661bo$40662bo126$40798b3o$40798bo$40799bo126$
40923b3o$40923bo$40924bo126$41051b3o$41051bo$41052bo126$41169b2o$
41168b2o$41170bo126$41330b3o$41330bo$41331bo126$41453b3o$41453bo$
41454bo126$41587b3o$41587bo$41588bo126$41714b3o$41714bo$41715bo126$
41846b2o$41845b2o$41847bo126$41974b3o$41974bo$41975bo126$42099b3o$
42099bo$42100bo126$42232b3o$42232bo$42233bo126$42363b3o$42363bo$42364b
o126$42481b2o$42480b2o$42482bo126$42610b2o$42609b2o$42611bo126$42721b
3o$42721bo$42722bo126$42845b3o$42845bo$42846bo126$42967b3o$42967bo$
42968bo126$43101b2o$43100b2o$43102bo126$43239b3o$43239bo$43240bo126$
43361b2o$43360b2o$43362bo126$43538b2o$43537b2o$43539bo126$43670b2o$
43669b2o$43671bo126$43801b2o$43800b2o$43802bo126$43928b3o$43928bo$
43929bo126$44061b3o$44061bo$44062bo126$44193b2o$44192b2o$44194bo126$
44299b2o$44298b2o$44300bo126$44429b2o$44428b2o$44430bo126$44559b3o$
44559bo$44560bo126$44685b3o$44685bo$44686bo126$44809b3o$44809bo$44810b
o126$44932b2o$44931b2o$44933bo126$45069b3o$45069bo$45070bo126$45193b3o
$45193bo$45194bo126$45326b3o$45326bo$45327bo126$45455b2o$45454b2o$
45456bo126$45576b2o$45575b2o$45577bo126$45711b2o$45710b2o$45712bo126$
45847b2o$45846b2o$45848bo126$45961b3o$45961bo$45962bo126$46085b3o$
46085bo$46086bo126$46210b2o$46209b2o$46211bo126$46329b3o$46329bo$
46330bo126$46458b2o$46457b2o$46459bo126$46586b2o$46585b2o$46587bo126$
46717b2o$46716b2o$46718bo126$46857b2o$46856b2o$46858bo126$46987b3o$
46987bo$46988bo126$47099b2o$47098b2o$47100bo126$47229b2o$47228b2o$
47230bo126$47363b2o$47362b2o$47364bo126$47487b2o$47486b2o$47488bo126$
47623b2o$47622b2o$47624bo126$47750b2o$47749b2o$47751bo126$47880b2o$
47879b2o$47881bo126$48007b3o$48007bo$48008bo126$48124b2o$48123b2o$
48125bo126$48260b3o$48260bo$48261bo126$48375b3o$48375bo$48376bo126$
48505b3o$48505bo$48506bo126$48627b3o$48627bo$48628bo126$48761b2o$
48760b2o$48762bo126$48886b3o$48886bo$48887bo126$48997b2o$48996b2o$
48998bo126$49126b3o$49126bo$49127bo126$49254b3o$49254bo$49255bo126$
49356b3o$49356bo$49357bo126$49480b3o$49480bo$49481bo126$49612b2o$
49611b2o$49613bo126$49752b3o$49752bo$49753bo126$49880b3o$49880bo$
49881bo126$50004b3o$50004bo$50005bo126$50136b2o$50135b2o$50137bo126$
50276b3o$50276bo$50277bo126$50404b3o$50404bo$50405bo126$50528b3o$
50528bo$50529bo126$50661b2o$50660b2o$50662bo126$50783b3o$50783bo$
50784bo126$50908b3o$50908bo$50909bo126$51038b3o$51038bo$51039bo126$
51160b3o$51160bo$51161bo126$51279b2o$51278b2o$51280bo126$51407b3o$
51407bo$51408bo126$51553b3o$51553bo$51554bo126$51698b3o$51698bo$51699b
o126$51819b3o$51819bo$51820bo126$51954b3o$51954bo$51955bo126$52073b3o$
52073bo$52074bo126$52201b3o$52201bo$52202bo126$52321b2o$52320b2o$
52322bo126$52443b2o$52442b2o$52444bo126$52582b2o$52581b2o$52583bo126$
52730b3o$52730bo$52731bo126$52892b3o$52892bo$52893bo126$53013b3o$
53013bo$53014bo126$53158b3o$53158bo$53159bo126$53287b3o$53287bo$53288b
o126$53429b3o$53429bo$53430bo126$53558b3o$53558bo$53559bo126$53691b3o$
53691bo$53692bo126$53793b3o$53793bo$53794bo126$53912b2o$53911b2o$
53913bo126$54043b3o$54043bo$54044bo126$54171b3o$54171bo$54172bo126$
54283b2o$54282b2o$54284bo126$54411b2o$54410b2o$54412bo126$54539b2o$
54538b2o$54540bo126$54669b2o$54668b2o$54670bo126$54784b2o$54783b2o$
54785bo126$54924b3o$54924bo$54925bo126$55052b3o$55052bo$55053bo126$
55187b2o$55186b2o$55188bo126$55303b2o$55302b2o$55304bo126$55416b3o$
55416bo$55417bo126$55555b3o$55555bo$55556bo126$55681b3o$55681bo$55682b
o126$55800b2o$55799b2o$55801bo126$55934b3o$55934bo$55935bo126$56057b3o
$56057bo$56058bo126$56180b3o$56180bo$56181bo126$56304b3o$56304bo$
56305bo126$56487b2o$56486b2o$56488bo126$56616b3o$56616bo$56617bo126$
56749b3o$56749bo$56750bo126$56886b3o$56886bo$56887bo126$57002b2o$
57001b2o$57003bo126$57120b2o$57119b2o$57121bo126$57238b3o$57238bo$
57239bo126$57377b3o$57377bo$57378bo126$57499b3o$57499bo$57500bo126$
57608b3o$57608bo$57609bo126$57732b3o$57732bo$57733bo126$57862b3o$
57862bo$57863bo126$57974b2o$57973b2o$57975bo126$58111b3o$58111bo$
58112bo126$58225b3o$58225bo$58226bo126$58349b3o$58349bo$58350bo126$
58513b2o$58512b2o$58514bo126$58652b3o$58652bo$58653bo126$58776b3o$
58776bo$58777bo126$58912b3o$58912bo$58913bo126$59033b2o$59032b2o$
59034bo126$59162b2o$59161b2o$59163bo126$59277b2o$59276b2o$59278bo126$
59425b2o$59424b2o$59426bo126$59529b2o$59528b2o$59530bo126$59622b3o$
59622bo$59623bo126$59742b3o$59742bo$59743bo126$59863b2o$59862b2o$
59864bo126$59978b3o$59978bo$59979bo126$60103b3o$60103bo$60104bo126$
60235b2o$60234b2o$60236bo126$60365b3o$60365bo$60366bo126$60490b3o$
60490bo$60491bo126$60622b2o$60621b2o$60623bo126$60778b3o$60778bo$
60779bo126$60899b3o$60899bo$60900bo126$61041b2o$61040b2o$61042bo126$
61169b3o$61169bo$61170bo126$61293b3o$61293bo$61294bo126$61435b2o$
61434b2o$61436bo126$61560b2o$61559b2o$61561bo126$61691b2o$61690b2o$
61692bo126$61814b2o$61813b2o$61815bo126$61953b2o$61952b2o$61954bo126$
62079b2o$62078b2o$62080bo126$62200b3o$62200bo$62201bo126$62334b2o$
62333b2o$62335bo126$62436b2o$62435b2o$62437bo126$62559b3o$62559bo$
62560bo126$62693b2o$62692b2o$62694bo126$62821b2o$62820b2o$62822bo126$
62983b2o$62982b2o$62984bo126$63136b3o$63136bo$63137bo126$63259b3o$
63259bo$63260bo126$63385b3o$63385bo$63386bo126$63515b3o$63515bo$63516b
o126$63636b2o$63635b2o$63637bo126$63762b2o$63761b2o$63763bo126$63888b
2o$63887b2o$63889bo126$64007b3o$64007bo$64008bo126$64135b3o$64135bo$
64136bo126$64272b2o$64271b2o$64273bo126$64401b2o$64400b2o$64402bo126$
64533b2o$64532b2o$64534bo126$64630b2o$64629b2o$64631bo126$64755b2o$
64754b2o$64756bo126$64872b3o$64872bo$64873bo126$65002b3o$65002bo$
65003bo126$65141b2o$65140b2o$65142bo126$65280b2o$65279b2o$65281bo126$
65408b3o$65408bo$65409bo126$65547b2o$65546b2o$65548bo126$65678b2o$
65677b2o$65679bo126$65815b3o$65815bo$65816bo126$65941b3o$65941bo$
65942bo126$66060b2o$66059b2o$66061bo126$66177b2o$66176b2o$66178bo126$
66303b3o$66303bo$66304bo126$66408b3o$66408bo$66409bo126$66521b3o$
66521bo$66522bo126$66645b3o$66645bo$66646bo126$66778b2o$66777b2o$
66779bo126$66910b3o$66910bo$66911bo126$67039b3o$67039bo$67040bo126$
67158b3o$67158bo$67159bo126$67283b3o$67283bo$67284bo126$67415b2o$
67414b2o$67416bo126$67554b3o$67554bo$67555bo126$67692b3o$67692bo$
67693bo126$67818b3o$67818bo$67819bo126$67946b3o$67946bo$67947bo126$
68070b3o$68070bo$68071bo126$68202b2o$68201b2o$68203bo126$68342b3o$
68342bo$68343bo126$68471b3o$68471bo$68472bo126$68600b2o$68599b2o$
68601bo126$68728b2o$68727b2o$68729bo126$68847b3o$68847bo$68848bo126$
68992b3o$68992bo$68993bo126$69112b2o$69111b2o$69113bo126$69234b3o$
69234bo$69235bo126$69380b3o$69380bo$69381bo126$69501b3o$69501bo$69502b
o126$69633b3o$69633bo$69634bo126$69753b3o$69753bo$69754bo126$69911b3o$
69911bo$69912bo126$70060b3o$70060bo$70061bo126$70187b3o$70187bo$70188b
o126$70313b2o$70312b2o$70314bo126$70438b2o$70437b2o$70439bo126$70566b
2o$70565b2o$70567bo126$70686b2o$70685b2o$70687bo126$70822b2o$70821b2o$
70823bo126$70944b3o$70944bo$70945bo126$71094b3o$71094bo$71095bo126$
71231b3o$71231bo$71232bo126$71358b2o$71357b2o$71359bo126$71476b3o$
71476bo$71477bo126$71607b3o$71607bo$71608bo126$71727b3o$71727bo$71728b
o126$71859b3o$71859bo$71860bo126$71981b2o$71980b2o$71982bo126$72103b2o
$72102b2o$72104bo126$72221b2o$72220b2o$72222bo126$72362b2o$72361b2o$
72363bo126$72491b2o$72490b2o$72492bo126$72614b2o$72613b2o$72615bo126$
72742b3o$72742bo$72743bo126$72863b3o$72863bo$72864bo126$72994b3o$
72994bo$72995bo126$73120b3o$73120bo$73121bo126$73255b2o$73254b2o$
73256bo126$73382b2o$73381b2o$73383bo126$73509b2o$73508b2o$73510bo126$
73638b3o$73638bo$73639bo126$73770b2o$73769b2o$73771bo126$73901b2o$
73900b2o$73902bo126$74026b2o$74025b2o$74027bo126$74143b3o$74143bo$
74144bo126$74275b3o$74275bo$74276bo126$74414b3o$74414bo$74415bo126$
74533b3o$74533bo$74534bo126$74664b3o$74664bo$74665bo126$74794b2o$
74793b2o$74795bo126$74922b2o$74921b2o$74923bo126$75041b3o$75041bo$
75042bo126$75163b3o$75163bo$75164bo126$75307b3o$75307bo$75308bo126$
75436b2o$75435b2o$75437bo126$75567b3o$75567bo$75568bo126$75691b3o$
75691bo$75692bo126$75809b3o$75809bo$75810bo126$75947b2o$75946b2o$
75948bo126$76074b2o$76073b2o$76075bo126$76207b3o$76207bo$76208bo126$
76331b2o$76330b2o$76332bo126$76455b2o$76454b2o$76456bo126$76587b2o$
76586b2o$76588bo126$76718b2o$76717b2o$76719bo126$76847b2o$76846b2o$
76848bo126$76979b2o$76978b2o$76980bo126$77121b3o$77121bo$77122bo126$
77260b2o$77259b2o$77261bo126$77396b2o$77395b2o$77397bo126$77518b2o$
77517b2o$77519bo126$77650b2o$77649b2o$77651bo126$77776b2o$77775b2o$
77777bo126$77917b3o$77917bo$77918bo126$78017b3o$78017bo$78018bo126$
78143b2o$78142b2o$78144bo126$78281b2o$78280b2o$78282bo126$78402b2o$
78401b2o$78403bo126$78539b3o$78539bo$78540bo126$78676b3o$78676bo$
78677bo126$78807b3o$78807bo$78808bo126$78935b3o$78935bo$78936bo126$
79067b2o$79066b2o$79068bo126$79171b3o$79171bo$79172bo126$79296b2o$
79295b2o$79297bo126$79425b2o$79424b2o$79426bo126$79552b3o$79552bo$
79553bo126$79671b2o$79670b2o$79672bo126$79808b2o$79807b2o$79809bo126$
79938b3o$79938bo$79939bo126$80075b2o$80074b2o$80076bo126$80210b3o$
80210bo$80211bo126$80337b3o$80337bo$80338bo126$80464b3o$80464bo$80465b
o126$80591b2o$80590b2o$80592bo126$80718b2o$80717b2o$80719bo126$80858b
3o$80858bo$80859bo126$81018b3o$81018bo$81019bo126$81127b2o$81126b2o$
81128bo126$81228b3o$81228bo$81229bo126$81346b3o$81346bo$81347bo126$
81471b3o$81471bo$81472bo126$81615b2o$81614b2o$81616bo126$81735b2o$
81734b2o$81736bo126$81879b3o$81879bo$81880bo126$81969b3o$81969bo$
81970bo126$82101b2o$82100b2o$82102bo126$82228b2o$82227b2o$82229bo126$
82342b3o$82342bo$82343bo126$82473b2o$82472b2o$82474bo126$82606b2o$
82605b2o$82607bo126$82734b2o$82733b2o$82735bo126$82847b3o$82847bo$
82848bo126$82981b2o$82980b2o$82982bo126$83114b2o$83113b2o$83115bo126$
83239b2o$83238b2o$83240bo126$83381b2o$83380b2o$83382bo126$83491b2o$
83490b2o$83492bo126$83611b2o$83610b2o$83612bo126$83757b2o$83756b2o$
83758bo126$83886b2o$83885b2o$83887bo126$84007b3o$84007bo$84008bo126$
84141b2o$84140b2o$84142bo126$84273b2o$84272b2o$84274bo126$84397b2o$
84396b2o$84398bo126$84522b2o$84521b2o$84523bo126$84649b2o$84648b2o$
84650bo126$84784b3o$84784bo$84785bo126$84918b2o$84917b2o$84919bo126$
85047b3o$85047bo$85048bo126$85182b3o$85182bo$85183bo126$85302b3o$
85302bo$85303bo126$85460b3o$85460bo$85461bo126$85532b2o$85531b2o$
85533bo126$85657b2o$85656b2o$85658bo126$85785b2o$85784b2o$85786bo126$
85918b2o$85917b2o$85919bo126$86049b2o$86048b2o$86050bo126$86168b3o$
86168bo$86169bo126$86303b3o$86303bo$86304bo126$86434b3o$86434bo$86435b
o126$86554b3o$86554bo$86555bo126$86677b2o$86676b2o$86678bo126$86815b3o
$86815bo$86816bo126$86932b2o$86931b2o$86933bo126$87066b2o$87065b2o$
87067bo126$87201b2o$87200b2o$87202bo126$87317b3o$87317bo$87318bo126$
87436b2o$87435b2o$87437bo126$87561b3o$87561bo$87562bo126$87678b3o$
87678bo$87679bo126$87823b3o$87823bo$87824bo126$87947b3o$87947bo$87948b
o126$88096b3o$88096bo$88097bo126$88227b3o$88227bo$88228bo126$88350b3o$
88350bo$88351bo126$88473b2o$88472b2o$88474bo126$88592b3o$88592bo$
88593bo126$88730b2o$88729b2o$88731bo126$88840b2o$88839b2o$88841bo126$
88962b3o$88962bo$88963bo126$89106b3o$89106bo$89107bo126$89234b3o$
89234bo$89235bo126$89359b3o$89359bo$89360bo126$89487b3o$89487bo$89488b
o126$89630b2o$89629b2o$89631bo126$89747b2o$89746b2o$89748bo126$89878b
3o$89878bo$89879bo126$90010b3o$90010bo$90011bo126$90118b2o$90117b2o$
90119bo126$90262b3o$90262bo$90263bo126$90377b3o$90377bo$90378bo126$
90506b3o$90506bo$90507bo126$90635b3o$90635bo$90636bo126$90773b2o$
90772b2o$90774bo126$90899b2o$90898b2o$90900bo126$91025b2o$91024b2o$
91026bo126$91154b2o$91153b2o$91155bo126$91273b3o$91273bo$91274bo126$
91402b2o$91401b2o$91403bo126$91520b2o$91519b2o$91521bo126$91655b2o$
91654b2o$91656bo126$91772b3o$91772bo$91773bo126$91908b3o$91908bo$
91909bo126$92041b2o$92040b2o$92042bo126$92168b2o$92167b2o$92169bo126$
92295b3o$92295bo$92296bo126$92400b3o$92400bo$92401bo126$92529b3o$
92529bo$92530bo126$92620b3o$92620bo$92621bo!
I was pleasantly surprised that the tight Snark recipe runs without interference from the nearby eater, beehive, or boat. It's almost as though the recipe was designed with this use-case in mind...
What do you do with ill crystallographers? Take them to the mono-clinic!

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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Post by dvgrn » June 7th, 2017, 11:49 am

calcyman wrote:Indeed it compiles smoothly with 128-cell spacing, and is cheaper than the partial result for Orthogonoid400... I was pleasantly surprised that the tight Snark recipe runs without interference from the nearby eater, beehive, or boat.
Yes, I really expected to have to come up with a custom recipe for the H-to-MWSS, with the Snark having to be that close to everything else. No guarantees about other orientations, I guess -- it might be interesting to compile an appropriate oscillator:

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x = 202, y = 229, rule = LifeHistory
63.2A$56.2A5.2A$56.2A$90.A$90.3A$58.2A33.A$58.2A32.2A$52.2A$52.2A$
109.2A4.2A$108.A2.A3.2A$109.2A$89.2A$89.2A$168.2A$161.2A4.A.A$161.2A
4.A$166.2A$114.2A49.A$114.2A49.3A$79.2A87.A$79.A87.2A$80.3A$82.A31.2A
$114.A.A$116.A$61.2A53.2A$61.2A3$138.A$138.3A$14.2A125.A$14.A5.2A118.
2A$15.3A.A.A133.2A$17.A.A135.A$18.2A132.2A.A$151.A2.A$152.2A$15.2A
105.2A13.2A$15.2A105.2A13.2A2$72.2A$71.A.A$61.2A9.A$34.A25.A2.A34.2A$
34.3A24.2A35.2A$37.A86.2A6.A.2A$36.A.A85.A.A3.3A.2A$36.A.A87.A2.A$37.
A34.A25.2A26.2A2.3A.2A$72.3A23.2A32.A.A$58.2A15.A36.2A18.A.A10.2A46.
2A$59.A14.2A36.A.A18.A11.2A46.2A$56.3A55.A$52.2A2.A47.2A8.2A$52.2A51.
A40.2A51.2A$102.3A42.A51.2A$102.A44.A.A45.2A$148.2A45.2A$32.2A50.2A
70.A$31.A.A43.2A5.A.A68.A.A16.2A$31.A45.2A7.A68.A.A16.2A$30.2A7.2A45.
2A68.A43.2A$39.2A159.2A$73.A$47.2A.A21.A.A.2A$47.2A.3A19.A.A.A.A$53.A
15.2A.A.A.A.A2.A$47.2A.3A16.A2.A2.2A.4A50.2A$48.A.A20.2A4.A55.A$48.A.
A26.A.A51.A26.A$49.A28.2A51.5A14.2A5.A.A$136.A13.A7.2A$50.A82.3A12.A.
A$48.3A81.A15.2A$47.A84.4A$47.2A81.2A3.A3.2A$39.2A88.A2.3A4.2A$39.2A
88.2A.A47.2A$132.A46.A.A$132.2A45.A$178.2A2$26.A113.2A$9.2A13.3A114.A
$9.2A7.2A3.A31.A82.3A$18.2A3.2A28.3A82.A$52.A$52.2A134.2A$10.A177.2A
7.2A$9.A.A185.A$9.A.A183.A.A$10.A184.2A3$55.2A$55.A.A$57.A92.2A3.2A$
57.2A91.2A3.2A3$45.2A3.2A91.2A$45.2A3.2A92.A$144.A.A$145.2A3$5.2A184.
A$4.A.A183.A.A$4.A185.A.A$3.2A7.2A177.A$12.2A134.2A$149.A$63.A82.3A
28.2A3.2A$61.3A82.A31.A3.2A7.2A$60.A114.3A13.2A$60.2A113.A2$22.2A$22.
A45.2A$20.A.A46.A$20.2A47.A.2A88.2A$61.2A4.3A2.A88.2A$61.2A3.A3.2A81.
2A$66.4A84.A$52.2A15.A81.3A$51.A.A12.3A82.A$42.2A7.A13.A$42.A.A5.2A
14.5A51.2A28.A$43.A26.A51.A.A26.A.A$68.A55.A4.2A20.A.A$68.2A50.4A.2A
2.A2.A16.3A.2A$120.A2.A.A.A.A.2A15.A$123.A.A.A.A19.3A.2A$124.2A.A.A
21.A.2A$128.A$2A159.2A$2A43.A68.2A45.2A7.2A$26.2A16.A.A68.A7.2A45.A$
26.2A16.A.A68.A.A5.2A43.A.A$45.A70.2A50.2A$5.2A45.2A$5.2A45.A.A44.A$.
2A51.A42.3A$.2A51.2A40.A51.2A$86.2A8.2A47.A2.2A$87.A55.3A$7.2A46.2A
11.A18.A.A36.2A14.A$7.2A46.2A10.A.A18.2A36.A15.2A$67.A.A32.2A23.3A$
66.2A.3A2.2A26.2A25.A34.A$72.A2.A87.A.A$66.2A.3A3.A.A85.A.A$66.2A.A6.
2A86.A$102.2A35.2A24.3A$102.2A34.A2.A25.A$129.A9.2A$128.A.A$128.2A2$
63.2A13.2A105.2A$63.2A13.2A105.2A$48.2A$47.A2.A$46.A.2A132.2A$46.A
135.A.A$45.2A133.A.A.3A$60.2A118.2A5.A$60.A125.2A$61.3A$41.2A20.A$40.
A.A$41.A$139.2A$84.2A53.2A$85.A$85.A.A$86.2A31.A$119.3A$33.2A87.A$33.
A87.2A$34.3A49.2A$36.A49.2A$34.2A$34.A4.2A$32.A.A4.2A$32.2A$111.2A$
111.2A$91.2A$85.2A3.A2.A$85.2A4.2A$148.2A$148.2A$108.2A32.2A$108.A33.
2A$109.3A$111.A$144.2A$137.2A5.2A$137.2A25$96.3A$96.A$97.A!
#C [[ STEP 9 ]]
Anyway... I'll probably add the two Fx77s and recompile, possibly with an additional exact-timing self-destruct mechanism like the one in the Demonoid, mostly generated by GoL-destroy.

Without the self-destruct junk, it's Orthogonoid375:

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x = 186, y = 177, rule = LifeHistory
11.2A$4.2A5.2A$4.2A$38.A$38.3A$6.2A33.A$6.2A32.2A$2A$2A182.2A$57.2A4.
2A119.2A$56.A2.A3.2A$57.2A$37.2A$37.2A5$62.2A$62.2A$27.2A$27.A54.2A$
28.3A52.A25.A$30.A31.2A19.A.A21.3A$62.A.A19.2A20.A$64.A41.2A$9.2A53.
2A$9.2A115.A$124.3A15.A27.2A3.2A$123.A18.3A25.2A3.2A$110.2A11.2A20.A$
110.2A32.2A$182.2A$182.A$180.A.A$180.2A2$141.2A$141.2A$70.2A13.2A$70.
2A13.2A11.2A$98.A$20.2A77.3A75.2A$19.A.A79.A75.A$9.2A9.A127.2A28.3A$
8.A2.A34.2A83.2A15.A31.A$9.2A35.2A61.2A20.A17.3A$72.2A34.A.A21.3A16.A
$72.A.A33.A25.A$74.A32.2A$20.A25.2A26.2A$20.3A23.2A$6.2A15.A36.2A102.
2A$7.A14.2A36.A.A101.2A$4.3A55.A109.2A$4.A47.2A8.2A108.A$53.A119.3A$
50.3A122.A$50.A$174.A$32.2A139.A.A$25.2A5.A.A138.A.A$25.2A7.A137.2A.
3A$34.2A142.A$172.2A.3A$21.A150.2A.A$20.A.A.2A$20.A.A.A.A137.2A$17.2A
.A.A.A.A2.A125.2A7.2A$17.A2.A2.2A.4A126.A$19.2A4.A130.A.A$25.A.A129.
2A$26.2A3$177.2A$177.2A5$162.A$161.A.A$161.A.A$162.A$159.3A$159.A44$
92.2A$93.A$91.A$91.5A14.2A$96.A13.A$93.3A12.A.A$92.A15.2A$92.4A$90.2A
3.A3.2A$89.A2.3A4.2A$89.2A.A$92.A$92.2A3$100.2A$101.A$98.3A$98.A19$
54.2A50.5A$51.3A.2A48.A4.A26.2A$51.5A54.A26.2A$52.3A50.A3.A$107.A$
134.2A$134.A.A$132.A.A.3A$132.2A5.A$138.2A!
For the simple short wide version of the spaceship, there's actually another reasonable way to do the destruction now. We could add another Snark on the construction lane, and start out by using the bent construction arm to shoot down the parent constructor:

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x = 220, y = 438, rule = LifeHistory
178.2A$178.A.A$180.A4.2A$176.4A.2A2.A2.A$176.A2.A.A.A.A.2A$11.2A166.A
.A.A.A$4.2A5.2A167.2A.A.A$4.2A178.A$38.A$38.3A129.2A$6.2A33.A129.A7.
2A$6.2A32.2A129.A.A5.2A$2A170.2A$2A$57.2A4.2A$56.A2.A3.2A$57.2A$37.2A
$37.2A$182.2A$182.A$183.3A$185.A$62.2A$62.2A$27.2A$27.A54.2A$28.3A52.
A25.A$30.A31.2A19.A.A21.3A$62.A.A19.2A20.A$64.A41.2A$9.2A53.2A$9.2A
115.A$124.3A15.A27.2A3.2A$123.A18.3A25.2A3.2A$110.2A11.2A20.A$110.2A
32.2A$182.2A$182.A$180.A.A$180.2A2$141.2A$141.2A$70.2A13.2A$70.2A13.
2A11.2A$98.A$20.2A77.3A75.2A$19.A.A79.A75.A$9.2A9.A127.2A28.3A$8.A2.A
34.2A83.2A15.A31.A37.2A$9.2A35.2A61.2A20.A17.3A66.2A$72.2A34.A.A21.3A
16.A$72.A.A33.A25.A$74.A32.2A$20.A25.2A26.2A$20.3A23.2A$6.2A15.A36.2A
102.2A$7.A14.2A36.A.A101.2A$4.3A55.A109.2A$4.A47.2A8.2A108.A$53.A119.
3A$50.3A122.A$50.A$174.A$32.2A139.A.A$25.2A5.A.A138.A.A$25.2A7.A137.
2A.3A$34.2A142.A$172.2A.3A$21.A150.2A.A$20.A.A.2A$20.A.A.A.A137.2A$
17.2A.A.A.A.A2.A125.2A7.2A$17.A2.A2.2A.4A126.A$19.2A4.A130.A.A$25.A.A
129.2A$26.2A3$177.2A$177.2A5$162.A$161.A.A$161.A.A$162.A$159.3A$159.A
44$92.2A$93.A$91.A$91.5A14.2A$96.A13.A$93.3A12.A.A$92.A15.2A$92.4A$
90.2A3.A3.2A$89.A2.3A4.2A$89.2A.A$92.A$92.2A3$100.2A$101.A$98.3A$98.A
19$54.2C50.5C$51.3C.2C48.C4.C26.2A$51.5C54.C26.2A$52.3C50.C3.C$107.C$
134.2A$134.A.A$132.A.A.3A$132.2A5.A$138.2A80$11.2D$4.2D5.2D$4.2D$38.D
$38.3D$6.2D33.D$6.2D32.2D$2D$2D$57.2D4.2D$56.D2.D3.2D$57.2D$37.2D$37.
2D5$62.2D$62.2D$27.2D$27.D54.2D$28.3D52.D25.D$30.D31.2D19.D.D21.3D$
62.D.D19.2D20.D$64.D41.2D$9.2D53.2D$9.2D115.D$124.3D15.D27.2D3.2D$
123.D18.3D25.2D3.2D$110.2D11.2D20.D$110.2D32.2D$182.2D$182.D$180.D.D$
180.2D2$141.2D$141.2D$70.2D13.2D$70.2D13.2D11.2D$98.D$20.2D77.3D75.2D
$19.D.D79.D75.D$9.2D9.D127.2D28.3D$8.D2.D34.2D83.2D15.D31.D$9.2D35.2D
61.2D20.D17.3D$72.2D34.D.D21.3D16.D$72.D.D33.D25.D$74.D32.2D$20.D25.
2D26.2D$20.3D23.2D$6.2D15.D36.2D102.2D$7.D14.2D36.D.D101.2D$4.3D55.D
109.2D$4.D47.2D8.2D108.D$53.D119.3D$50.3D122.D$50.D$174.D$32.2D139.D.
D$25.2D5.D.D138.D.D$25.2D7.D137.2D.3D$34.2D142.D$172.2D.3D$21.D150.2D
.D$20.D.D.2D$20.D.D.D.D137.2D$17.2D.D.D.D.D2.D125.2D7.2D$17.D2.D2.2D.
4D126.D$19.2D4.D130.D.D$25.D.D129.2D$26.2D3$177.2D$177.2D5$162.D$161.
D.D$161.D.D$162.D$159.3D$159.D44$92.2D$93.D$91.D$91.5D14.2D$96.D13.D$
93.3D12.D.D$92.D15.2D$92.4D$90.2D3.D3.2D$89.D2.3D4.2D$89.2D.D$92.D$
92.2D3$100.2D$101.D$98.3D$98.D20$137.2D$137.2D3$134.2D$134.D.D$132.D.
D.3D$132.2D5.D$138.2D!
Unfortunately, with the extra Fx77s pushing the H-to-MWSS farther west, some of the circuitry is around the corner from the new elbow. That's just a minor annoyance, though -- it could be cleaned up by pushing the elbow a little farther and doing the cleanup with *WSSes, for example.

Then it's just a matter of finding any elbow-destroying return glider recipe that breaks the Snark in a way that allows a single-channel recipe to clean up the remaining debris and make a new elbow.

It will be possible to pack the Orthogonoid a little smaller if the parent is cleaned up at the end of the recipe instead of the beginning -- which just means using 0-degree recipes to build that Snark after the child construction is done. The destruction elbow can be just sitting there waiting for for the Snark to be built to point at it.

However, I'm not sure I really like either of these ideas, because they create a lot more signal crossings for a rectangular Orthogonoid. Once the basic model is done I'd like to try stacking a thousand constructor arms on top of each other, feed in gliders a pair at a time, and see if I can get the whole stack constructing great^998 grandchildren simultaneously. For that design it's a lot better to have an autonomous exact-timing destruct signal following along behind the recipe.

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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Post by calcyman » June 7th, 2017, 12:37 pm

dvgrn wrote:Yes, I really expected to have to come up with a custom recipe the H-to-MWSS, with the Snark having to be that close to everything else. No guarantees about other orientations, I guess -- it might be interesting to compile an appropriate oscillator:
Coincidentally, I'm already compiling the same oscillator (except with longer spacings between the reflectors, so a larger period). So far, slmake has optimised it down from 889 to 269 cells (including 3 bespoke objects left to construct, out of the original 12). It suffers from apgmeraitis of not having a method for saving partial progress, so the only option is to wait for it to complete (by either reaching a final block or surrendering at the maximum bailout of 4096).
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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Post by praosylen » June 11th, 2017, 10:21 pm

A bit of a ridiculous new semi-compound H-to-H:

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x = 61, y = 74, rule = LifeHistory
11.B2.2B2.2B$10.11BD$6.B2.12BDBD$5.2CB.B2C9B3DB$5.2C3B2C11BD$6.B.14B$
8.7B.4B$7.7B.4B$6.12B$6.11B$3.3B.9B$3.12B$2.2C11B.2B$2.2C13B2C$3.B.
10B.B2C$5.10B2.B$6.9B$6.10B$6.11B$7.11B$6.13B$5.15B$2.19B$.2C19B$.2C
15B.4B$2.17B.4B$6.19B$7.19B$7.20B$8.20B$5.24B$5.20B.4B$4.20B3.4B$3.
22B3.4B$3.24B2.4B11.C$4.30B2.B5.3C$2.10B.25B3.C$2.2C4.2B2.7B.13B2D4B
2.2C$3.C4.B4.B.3B2.12B2D9B$3C4.2C3.2C2B4.13B2D6B$C6.C4.C2.CB4.13BD7B
11.2C$5.C.C5.3C12.4B.11B9.C$5.2C22.4B3.10B4.BC.C$12.C.2C14.4B3.12B.B
2C$12.2C.C5.C9.4B.15B$21.3C8.19B4.2C$24.C8.17B5.C$23.2C9.14B4.BC.C$
23.5B6.9B.7B.B2C$25.5B.2B2.8B2.4B2C2B$24.19B5.BC.CB$23.5B.18B3.2C3.2C
$23.24B9.C$23.26B7.C.2C$22.27B5.3C.C$18.CB.29B2.BCB3.C$17.C.C31B.B5C.
2C$17.2C.33B.B2.C.C$21.32B2CBC3.C$21.31B.CB2.3C$18.2B.30B3.2C.C$17.2C
31B5.C$17.2C29B7.C.C$18.2B.6B4.16B9.2C$23.B7.12B.B$31.12B$32.11B$30.
4B.4B3CB$30.2C4.4BC2B$31.C4.2B3C2B$28.3C6.6B$28.C8.7B$39.B.4B$42.4B!
EDIT: Possible but unlikely L-to-P:

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x = 16, y = 14, rule = LifeHistory
11.2A$4.2A4.A.A$3.B2AB3.A$3.3B3.2A.A$4.B3.AB2.3A$.7B2ABA3.A$.3B2C2B.B
2.A.A$.2B2CB.B5A.2A$2B2C4BAB3.A$6B3.3A.A$.6B4.A.2A$.5B5.A$2.D2BD6.3A$
2.3D9.A!
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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Post by AbhpzTa » June 13th, 2017, 4:55 am

F131(98):

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x = 45, y = 35, rule = LifeHistory
24.CB$23.C.CB.B$7.2C13.B.2C2B2C$8.C11.6B.B2C$8.C.CB7.6B3.B$9.2CB.3B3.
7B$11.16B$11.16B$12.15B$11.16B$9.18B$7.19B$7.2BE16B$6.3BEBE4B.9B$7.2B
3E4B.10B$6.5BE4B.11B.2B3.2B2.2B$5.22B.13BD$4.4B6.27BDBD$3.4B7.16B2C9B
3DB$2.4B9.15B2C11BD$.4B10.11B.15B$4B12.10B3.2B.3B.B$3B14.7B$2B15.7B$B
17.5B11.2A$19.3B13.A$20.4B8.3A$19.2C.2C8.A$18.CBCBCBC$16.3C.B.C.C2.C$
15.C4.C.C.4C$15.2C.2C.2C$19.C3.3C$19.C.2C2.C$20.C.C!
p96 also works, but p97 doesn't.
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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Post by dvgrn » June 13th, 2017, 10:10 am

AbhpzTa wrote:F131(98):

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x = 45, y = 35, rule = LifeHistory
24.CB$23.C.CB.B$7.2C13.B.2C2B2C$8.C11.6B.B2C$8.C.CB7.6B3.B$9.2CB.3B3.
7B$11.16B$11.16B$12.15B$11.16B$9.18B$7.19B$7.2BE16B$6.3BEBE4B.9B$7.2B
3E4B.10B$6.5BE4B.11B.2B3.2B2.2B$5.22B.13BD$4.4B6.27BDBD$3.4B7.16B2C9B
3DB$2.4B9.15B2C11BD$.4B10.11B.15B$4B12.10B3.2B.3B.B$3B14.7B$2B15.7B$B
17.5B11.2A$19.3B13.A$20.4B8.3A$19.2C.2C8.A$18.CBCBCBC$16.3C.B.C.C2.C$
15.C4.C.C.4C$15.2C.2C.2C$19.C3.3C$19.C.2C2.C$20.C.C!
Very nice -- that's definitely one for the H-to-H stamp collection.

It also turns A for awesome's unsure discovery into a sure discovery, faster than I expected.

This is another of those odd cases where the transparent block is catalyzing something other than the usual B-heptomino, or dove (e.g., in the Fx176). So no snake or eater is needed to support the extraction of the Herschel signal. Without the block there, you get a clean traffic light, though it's in the middle of the reaction envelope so it might not be too useful. How did you find this?

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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Post by gmc_nxtman » June 13th, 2017, 11:47 am

AbhpzTa wrote:F131(98):

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...
p96 also works, but p97 doesn't.
Wow! This is a very nice new component, although non-spartan, very fast and usable at under 100 ticks!

This, along with a few other new conduits, may warrant an update to the
H-to-H conduit collection, although I don't think there are quite enough conduits (2 or 3?) to warrant a complete update.

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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Post by AbhpzTa » June 13th, 2017, 12:22 pm

dvgrn wrote:
AbhpzTa wrote:F131(98):

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x = 45, y = 35, rule = LifeHistory
24.CB$23.C.CB.B$7.2C13.B.2C2B2C$8.C11.6B.B2C$8.C.CB7.6B3.B$9.2CB.3B3.
7B$11.16B$11.16B$12.15B$11.16B$9.18B$7.19B$7.2BE16B$6.3BEBE4B.9B$7.2B
3E4B.10B$6.5BE4B.11B.2B3.2B2.2B$5.22B.13BD$4.4B6.27BDBD$3.4B7.16B2C9B
3DB$2.4B9.15B2C11BD$.4B10.11B.15B$4B12.10B3.2B.3B.B$3B14.7B$2B15.7B$B
17.5B11.2A$19.3B13.A$20.4B8.3A$19.2C.2C8.A$18.CBCBCBC$16.3C.B.C.C2.C$
15.C4.C.C.4C$15.2C.2C.2C$19.C3.3C$19.C.2C2.C$20.C.C!
Very nice -- that's definitely one for the H-to-H stamp collection.

It also turns A for awesome's unsure discovery into a sure discovery, faster than I expected.

This is another of those odd cases where the transparent block is catalyzing something other than the usual B-heptomino, or dove (e.g., in the Fx176). So no snake or eater is needed to support the extraction of the Herschel signal. Without the block there, you get a clean traffic light, though it's in the middle of the reaction envelope so it might not be too useful. How did you find this?
See Silver's reflector.
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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Post by gmc_nxtman » June 13th, 2017, 12:25 pm

AbhpzTa wrote:
dvgrn wrote:This is another of those odd cases where the transparent block is catalyzing something other than the usual B-heptomino, or dove (e.g., in the Fx176). So no snake or eater is needed to support the extraction of the Herschel signal. Without the block there, you get a clean traffic light, though it's in the middle of the reaction envelope so it might not be too useful. How did you find this?
See Silver's reflector.
Wow, that's some really good pattern recognition.

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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Post by simeks » June 13th, 2017, 2:18 pm

AbhpzTa wrote:F131(98):
Very nice, and attaches to syringe too, if this non-standard version is used:

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x = 64, y = 35, rule = LifeHistory
2.A41.A$A.A40.A.A$.2A24.2A15.2A2.2A$28.A19.2A$28.A.A$18.A10.2A$16.3A$
15.A$15.2A$2A$.A$.A.2A$2.A2.A23.D$3.2A24.D.D$18.2A9.3D$18.2A11.D$61.D
$61.D.D$50.2A9.3D$50.2A11.D$26.C3.2C$25.C.C3.C$21.2C.C.C3.C$21.2C.C4.
C$25.5C.C22.2A$20.C.3C5.2C23.A$20.2C4.3C23.3A$10.2A11.3C.C.3C7.2A.2A
8.A$10.2A8.2C.C7.C6.A.A.A.A$20.C.C13.3A3.A.A2.A$35.A4.A.A.4A$35.2A.2A
.2A$39.A3.3A$39.A.2A2.A$40.A.A!

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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Post by dvgrn » June 13th, 2017, 2:45 pm

simeks wrote:Very nice, and attaches to syringe too, if this non-standard version is used...
Now that you mention it, that syringe catalyst should probably find its way into the Elementary Conduits Collection also. There's a variant with a slightly lower population and one more half diagonal clearance to the southeast (not needed here):

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x = 64, y = 35, rule = LifeHistory
2.A41.A$A.A40.A.A$.2A24.2A15.2A2.2A$28.A19.2A$28.A.A$18.A10.2A$16.3A$
15.A$15.2A$2A$.A$.A.2A$2.A2.A23.D$3.2A24.D.D$18.2A9.3D$18.2A11.D$61.D
$61.D.D$50.2A9.3D$50.2A11.D$26.C3.2C$25.C.C3.C$21.2C.C.C3.C$21.2C.C4.
C$25.5C.C22.2A$20.C.3C5.2C23.A$20.2C4.3C23.3A$10.2A11.3C.C11.2A.2A8.A
$10.2A8.2C.C5.C8.A.A.A.A$20.C.C5.2C6.3A3.A.A2.A$35.A4.A.A.4A$35.2A.2A
.2A$39.A3.3A$39.A.2A2.A$40.A.A!

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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Post by simeks » June 13th, 2017, 2:56 pm

dvgrn wrote:There's a variant with a slightly lower population and one more half diagonal clearance to the southeast
Yes, and if we're desperate for southeast clearance, we could even use this version ;)

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x = 64, y = 35, rule = LifeHistory
2.A41.A$A.A40.A.A$.2A24.2A15.2A2.2A$28.A19.2A$28.A.A$18.A10.2A$16.3A$
15.A$15.2A$2A$.A$.A.2A$2.A2.A23.D$3.2A24.D.D$18.2A9.3D$18.2A11.D$61.D
$61.D.D$50.2A9.3D$50.2A11.D$26.C3.2C$25.C.C3.C$21.2C.C.C3.C$21.2C.C4.
C$25.5C.C22.2A$20.C.3C5.C.C22.A$20.2C4.3C2.C20.3A$10.2A11.3C.C.2C8.2A
.2A8.A$10.2A8.2C.C14.A.A.A.A$20.C.C13.3A3.A.A2.A$35.A4.A.A.4A$35.2A.
2A.2A$39.A3.3A$39.A.2A2.A$40.A.A!

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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Post by BlinkerSpawn » June 13th, 2017, 4:08 pm

simeks wrote:
dvgrn wrote:There's a variant with a slightly lower population and one more half diagonal clearance to the southeast
Yes, and if we're desperate for southeast clearance, we could even use this version ;)

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another catalyst
Not quite desperate enough:

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x = 13, y = 51, rule = LifeHistory
6.C3.2C$5.C.C3.C$.2C.C.C3.C$.2C.C4.C$5.5C.C$C.3C5.2C$2C4.3C$3.3C.C$2C
.C5.C$C.C5.2C11$6.C3.2C$5.C.C3.C$.2C.C.C3.C$.2C.C4.C$5.5C.C$C.3C5.C.C
$2C4.3C2.C$3.3C.C.2C$2C.C$C.C11$6.C3.2C$5.C.C3.C$.2C.C.C3.C$.2C.C4.C$
5.5C.C$C.3C5.2C$2C3.C.2C$3.C.C.C$3C.C2.C$C3.C.C$4.2C!
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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Post by gmc_nxtman » June 13th, 2017, 4:30 pm

simeks wrote:Yes, and if we're desperate for southeast clearance, we could even use this version ;)

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...
Were the connections already known?

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x = 56, y = 97, rule = LifeHistory
54.A$45.2A5.3A$44.B2AB3.A$44.3B4.2A$37.2B2.2B2.B2.5B$35.D15B$33.DBD
14B2A$32.B3D9B2A3B2A$33.D11B2A2B.B$35.14B$37.8B.B$37.12B$39.12B$38.
13B$37.15B$27.2A8.15B$28.A8.15B$16.2A10.A.AB4.15B$6.AB7.A.A11.2AB.18B
$6.B2A6.A15.19B$6.2A2B4.2A15.21B$7.4B2.2B17.20B$2A6.8B15.21B$.A7.7B
13.22B$.A.2A5.7B2.B2.2B2.22B.4B$2.A2.A4.19BD17B4.2A$3.2AB3.20BDBD4B.
10B4.A$4.14B2A9B3D4B2.8B6.3A$5.13B2A11BD4B.8B9.A$6.29B3.7B$6.17B.4B
10.7B$7.15B3.2B12.6B$7.15B3.3B11.7B$8.13B5.A2B.2A7.6B$10.13B2.A.A2B.A
6.6B$9.8B4.2A.A.AB2.A7.6B$9.6B6.2ABA4.A7.8B$9.5B8.B2.5A.A6.6B8.B$9.B.
B8.A.3A5.2A6.7B2.B2.5B$10.3B7.2A4.3A7.20B$9.B2AB10.3A.A6.B.2B2A11BDB
2AB$10.2A8.2A.A5.A3.2A3B2A9B3DB2AB$20.A.A5.2A3.2A14BDBD4B$34.15BD6B$
32.5B2.B2.2B2.10B$32.2A4.3B7.4B2.B$33.A3.B2AB$30.3A5.2A$30.A11$47.A$
45.3A$44.A$44.2A$27.2A12.5B2.2A$28.A11.4B3.B2AB$16.2A10.A.AB7.6B3.2B$
6.AB7.A.A11.2AB.3B3.7B3.2B$6.B2A6.A15.16B.2BAB$6.2A2B4.2A15.18BA.A$7.
4B2.2B17.17B.A$2A6.8B15.16B4.3A$.A7.7B13.17B7.A$.A.2A5.7B2.B2.2B2.20B
$2.A2.A4.19BD15B$3.2AB3.20BDBD4B.9B$4.14B2A9B3D4B2.9B3.B$5.13B2A11BD
4B2.10B.B2A$6.29B.14B2A$6.17B.4B7.16B$7.15B3.2B8.16B$7.15B3.3B6.15B$
8.13B5.A2B.2A3.10B$10.13B2.A.A2B.A4.8B$9.8B4.2A.A.AB2.A7.7B$9.6B6.2AB
A4.A7.9B$9.5B8.B2.5A.A6.9B$9.B.B8.A.3A5.2A6.10B$10.3B7.2A4.3A7.14B$9.
B2AB10.3A.A6.B.2B2A11BD$10.2A8.2A.A5.A3.2A3B2A9B3DB$20.A.A5.2A3.2A14B
DBD$34.15BD$32.5B2.B2.2B2.2B$32.2A4.3B$33.A3.B2AB$30.3A5.2A$30.A!

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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Post by dvgrn » June 13th, 2017, 6:37 pm

gmc_nxtman wrote:Were [these syringe+Fx119/Herschel splitter] connections already known?
There's some prior art in the gun thread, but that was a year and change before AbhpzTa's Herschel splitter showed up. Still I think they probably count as more-or-less-known.

I hadn't noticed, or had forgotten, that the Herschel-splitter attachment gets rid of the sometimes-troublesome third Fx119 glider output. I don't think that solves any old problems, since there are other known ways of getting rid of that glider (see link above, especially the top left corner) -- but these are all good things to be reminded of anyway.

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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Post by simeks » June 13th, 2017, 6:54 pm

BlinkerSpawn wrote: Not quite desperate enough:
Right, I was assuming too much... Here's one more version:

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x = 16, y = 70, rule = LifeHistory
9.A3.2A$8.A.A3.A$4.2A.A.A3.A$4.2A.A4.A$8.5A.A$3.A.3A5.2A$3.2A4.3A$6.
3A.A$3.2A.A5.A$3.A.A5.2A11$9.A3.2A$8.A.A3.A$4.2A.A.A3.A$4.2A.A4.A$8.
5A.A$3.A.3A5.A.A$3.2A4.3A2.A$6.3A.A.2A$3.2A.A$3.A.A11$9.A3.2A$8.A.A3.
A$4.2A.A.A3.A$4.2A.A4.A$8.5A.A$3.A.3A5.2A$3.2A3.A.2A$6.A.A.A$3.3A.A2.
A$3.A3.A.A$7.2A10$9.C3.2C$8.C.C3.C$4.2C.C.C3.C$4.2C.C4.C$8.5C.C$3.C.
3C5.2C$3.2C3.C.2C$.2C3.C.C.C$C2.C.2C.C.C$.2C6.C!
EDIT: Fixed broken pattern
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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Post by Sokwe » June 13th, 2017, 6:59 pm

AbhpzTa wrote:F131(98):

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x = 45, y = 35, rule = LifeHistory
24.CB$23.C.CB.B$7.2C13.B.2C2B2C$8.C11.6B.B2C$8.C.CB7.6B3.B$9.2CB.3B3.
7B$11.16B$11.16B$12.15B$11.16B$9.18B$7.19B$7.2BE16B$6.3BEBE4B.9B$7.2B
3E4B.10B$6.5BE4B.11B.2B3.2B2.2B$5.22B.13BD$4.4B6.27BDBD$3.4B7.16B2C9B
3DB$2.4B9.15B2C11BD$.4B10.11B.15B$4B12.10B3.2B.3B.B$3B14.7B$2B15.7B$B
17.5B11.2A$19.3B13.A$20.4B8.3A$19.2C.2C8.A$18.CBCBCBC$16.3C.B.C.C2.C$
15.C4.C.C.4C$15.2C.2C.2C$19.C3.3C$19.C.2C2.C$20.C.C!
p96 also works, but p97 doesn't.
This should probably be viewed as an H->R->H conduit. The population of the large catalyst can be reduced slightly:

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x = 37, y = 35, rule = LifeHistory
17.A$16.A.A$2A15.2A2.2A$.A19.2A$.A.A$2.2A7$2.E$2.E.E$2.3E$4.E$34.D$
34.D.D$23.2A9.3D$23.2A11.D3$13.D$12.3D$14.D12.2A$28.A$25.3A$12.2A.2A
8.A$11.A.A.A.A$9.3A3.A.A$8.A4.A.A.3A$9.3A.2A.A3.A$11.A4.A2.2A$13.3A$
12.2A!
Edit: With regard to the syringe catalyst, I would use this unless otherwise warranted:

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x = 33, y = 29, rule = LifeHistory
2.E$E.E$.2E3$18.A$16.3A$15.A$15.2A$2A$.A$.A.2A$2.A2.A23.D$3.2A24.D.D$
18.2A9.3D$18.2A11.D5$26.A3.2A$25.A.A3.A$21.2A.A.A3.A$21.2A.A4.A$25.5A
.A$17.2A.A.2A.A4.A.A$17.A.2A.A2.A.2A2.A$10.2A12.2A.A.2A$10.2A!
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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Post by chris_c » June 14th, 2017, 12:17 pm

AbhpzTa wrote:F131(98)
There is also this variant:

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x = 37, y = 44, rule = LifeHistory
14.2A13.B$15.A12.2B$14.A12.3B$14.2A2.2A6.4B$17.A.A5.4B$12.4A.A6.4B$
12.A2.A.2A4.4B$15.5B2.4B$16.9B$16.8B$15.8B$4.2A9.7B$5.A10.6B4.2A$5.A.
AB7.6B4.A$6.2AB.3B3.6B.BA.A$8.14B.B2A$8.16B$9.15B$8.16B$6.18B$4.19B$
4.2BA16B$3.3BABA4B.9B$4.2B3A4B.10B$3.5BA4B.11B.2B3.2B2.2B$2.22B.12B$.
4B6.26B$4B7.16B2C8B$3B9.15B2C8B$2B10.11B.13B$B12.10B3.2B.3B.B$14.7B$
14.7B$15.5B11.2A$16.3B13.A$17.4B8.3A$16.2C.2C8.A$15.CBCBCBC$13.3C.B.C
.C2.C$12.C4.C.C.4C$12.2C.2C.2C$16.C3.3C$16.C.2C2.C$17.C.C!
I can't think of any faster ways of getting a NE glider and a forward Herschel. Nice find!

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