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I've been thinking about a potential p52 gun recently. A p52 Herschel track is possible, but I have only been able to get gliders out of the very end of the track:
x = 307, y = 125, rule = 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Notice that there is an output Herschel that needs to be deleted before it releases its first natural glider. Is it possible to use p4 sparkers to convert this Herschel into a glider (or, ideally, 2 gliders)? Can the other end of the track be supported by only 2 glider streams and some p4 sparkers?

Edit: It's possible to get 3 gliders out of the end of the track using the fast H-to-2G, but the streams seem to be too close together to separate:
x = 332, y = 116, rule = 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Maybe the hive and block can be replaced by a p4 sparker to get a glider on a different path.
-Matthias Merzenich
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I think this simply calls for a smaller WLS result--if the large sparkers can be reduced in such a way that glider streams can escape in the middle of the trace, the hard part is over.
Tanner Jacobi

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Kazyan wrote:I think this simply calls for a smaller WLS result--if the large sparkers can be reduced in such a way that glider streams can escape in the middle of the trace, the hard part is over.

I spent a lot of time on that, but I've been unsuccessful so far. There's just so little room to work with.

I just now noticed that there are two potential locations for the p4 oscillators. compare these two patterns:
x = 110, y = 69, rule = B3/S2395b2o$25b2o69bo$26bo69bobo$26bobo68b2o$27b2o$100b3o$89bo10bo2bo$19bo10b3o54b3o9bobo$17b3o10b3o53bo11b3obo$16bo11b2o3bo39b2o11b2o10b3o3b2o$3b2o11b2o10bo2b3o39b2o7bo21b2o$3b2o23b4o2bo46b4o16bo2b2o$13bo16bob3o44b2o3b2o15b3o$11b2obo17bo45bo3bo18b3o$10bo3bo63bo3bo$10bo2b2o63b2o2bo16bo$10b2ob2o65bo3bo13b3o$12b2o3bo10b2o58bo8bob2o$18b2o7bo2bo58b2o5b2o2b2o$17b2o8bo2bo57b2o7b4o$28bobo67b3o$17bo70bo$16b2o17bo51b2o17bo$16bobo14b3o51bobo14b3o$32bo70bo$32b2o38b2o29b2o$2b2o8b2o16b2o2bo36bobo9b2o16b2o2bo$bobo8bobo14b4obo36bo11bobo14b4obo$bo7b2obobo12bo3b2obob2o32b2o8b2obobo12bo3b2obob2o$2o7bo2bob2o10bo2bo4bobo43bo2bob2o10bo2bo4bobo$10bobo2bo13bo3b2obo44bobo2bo13bo3b2obo$9b2obob2o5b2o6bobo2bob2o42b2obob2o5b2o6bobo2bob2o$12bob2o5b2o6b4obo3bo44bob2o5b2o6b4obo3bo$12bobobo9b2o5bobob2o44bobobo9b2o5bobob2o$11b2o2b3o8b7o2bobo44b2o2b3o8b7o2bobo$14bo6b2o7bobob2obo47bo6b2o7bobob2obo$11b3o2bo4b2o4b2obobobo2b2o43b3o2bo4b2o4b2obobobo2b2o$10bo2b2o2b2o10bob2o3bo44bo2b2o2b2o10bob2o3bo$11bo3bo3bo6bo2bob2o4b2o43bo3bo3bo6bo2bob2o4b2o$12b2o5bo9b2o7bo44b2o5bo9b2o7bo$14b2o3bob2obobo2bo5b3o47b2o3bob2obobo2bo5b3o$10b3o4b2o2bob2obob2obo3bo45b3o4b2o2bob2obob2obo3bo$9bo2bob2obo3bo3bo4b4obo44bo2bob2obo3bo3bo4b4obo$9b2o5b5ob2o10bo45b2o5b5ob2o10bo$20bo2bobobo2b2obo57bo2bobobo2b2obo$13b2obobo2bo3b4o2bob2o49b2obobo2bo3b4o2bob2o$12bo2bo2b2obobobo2bobo2bo49bo2bo2b2obobobo2bobo2bo$10bo2b4o3bob2o6b2obo47bo2b4o3bob2o6b2obo$10b2obo3b2obo4bo3bo3b2o46b2obo3b2obo4bo3bo3b2o$11bo2b2o2bobob4obob4o2bo46bo2b2o2bobob4obob4o2bo$9bobo3b2obobobo4b3o2bobo45bobo3b2obobobo4b3o2bobo$9b2o3b2ob2obo2bo6b2o2b2o44b2o3b2ob2obo2bo6b2o2b2o$14b2o3bob2o3b2o3bobo51b2o3bob2o3b2o3bobo$19bo6b3o2bobo56bo6b3o2bobo$14b2obobo7bo2b2ob2o50b2obobo7bo2b2ob2o$15bob2o7b2o58bob2o7b2o$15b2o9bo59b2o9bo$15bob2o8bo58bob2o8bo$17bo8b2o60bo8b2o$14b2obobo65b2obobo$16b2ob3o65b2ob3o$13bo2bobo3bo61bo2bobo3bo$11b3o4bob2o60b3o4bob2o$10bo3b2obobo61bo3b2obobo$11b2o2bobobo62b2o2bobobo$13b2ob2ob2o63b2ob2ob2o$13bo2bo67bo2bo$14bobob2obo63bobob2obo$15b2obob2o64b2obob2o!

I have only ever tried the placement on the left. Here is a JLS file showing the necessary cell settings for the placement on the left (change the extension to .jdf after downloading):
p52-necessary-cells.txt

The pattern on the right gives less room near the output glider, but more room near the Herschel track.
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Not particularly interesting:
x = 30, y = 36, rule = B3/S235b2o16b2o$5b2o16b2o11$3b5o14b5o$2bob3obo12bob3obo$3bo3bo14bo3bo$4b3o16b3o$5bo18bo2$14b2o$14b2o$3bo22bo$3bo22bo$2bobo5bo3b2o3bo5bobo$b2ob2o2bobo3b2o3bobo2b2ob2o$o5bo2b2o8b2o2bo5bo$3bo22bo$2o3b2o16b2o3b2o3$2bo24bo$2bo24bo$bo26bo3$3b2o20b2o$3b2o20b2o!

pn LWSS gun -> p2n oscillator:
x = 118, y = 45, rule = B3/S23b2o5b2o98b2o5b2o$b2o5b2o98b2o5b2o16$2obo3bob2o96b2obo3bob2o$o2bo3bo2bo96bo2bo3bo2bo$b3o3b3o98b3o3b3o5$41bo2bo28bo2bo$19b4o22bo26bo22b4o$18bo3bo18bo3bo26bo3bo18bo3bo$b2o19bo19b4o26b4o19bo19b2o$b2o15bo2bo74bo2bo15b2o2$58b2o$58b2o$37b3o8b2o18b2o8b3o$21b2o12bo3bo8b2o18b2o8bo3bo12b2o$12bo7b2o12bo4bo38bo4bo12b2o7bo$b2o8b2o9bo11bo3bo40bo3bo11bo9b2o8b2o$b2o7b2o94b2o7b2o$11b2o2b2o17bo3bo40bo3bo17b2o2b2o$34bo4bo38bo4bo$35bo3bo8b2o18b2o8bo3bo$37b3o8b2o18b2o8b3o$11b2o2b2o84b2o2b2o$b2o7b2o94b2o7b2o$b2o8b2o92b2o8b2o$12bo92bo!
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A beacon and cover replacing 1 of the tubs of the first post's p17, not sure whether this is trivial or not.
10b2o$10b2o$5b2ob2o$6bob2o$6bo$7b3o$9bo2b2o$13bo$7b6o$6bo3bo2b3o$6b2o3b2o3bob2o$10bo2bo2bobobo$6b5obobobo3bo2bo$5bo8bobo3bobobo$5bo2b5obob2ob2o2bo$2b2obobo3bob2o3bobo$2bobobobobo3bobobobobo$4bobo3b2obo3bobob2o$bo2b2ob2obob5o2bo$obobo3bobo8bo$bo2bo3bobobob5o$4bobobo2bo2bo$5b2obo3b2o3b2o$9b3o2bo3bo$12b6o$11bo$11b2o2bo$14bobo$15bo!
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SebTvHd wrote:A beacon and cover replacing 1 of the tubs of the first post's p17, not sure whether this is trivial or not...

Yup, that's trivial by the definition. No period 34 cells, only p1 and p2 and p17 ones.

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Sokwe wrote:I've been thinking about a potential p52 gun recently. A p52 Herschel track is possible, but I have only been able to get gliders out of the very end of the track:...

#C p52 2G-to-Bx = 155, y = 104, rule = B3/S2380bo$80b3o$83bo$82b2o3$92b2o$92b2o4$86bo$85b3o$84b6o$83b2o4b3o$82b2o4b2o2bo$83b2o3bo4bo$78b2o4bo7b2o$77bobo9bobob3o$77bo12bo3bobo$76b2o7bo10bo$84bo11b2o$85bo16b2o$79b2o20bobo$78bobo18b3o$80bo2b2o10b2obo3bo$83b2o8bo5bob2o$93bo5bo$93bo5bob2o$87b3o5b2obo3bo$87bo11b3o$88bo12bobo$83b2o17b2o$82bobo$82bo$81b2o$66b2o$65bobo$67bo4$100b3o$100bo$101bo5$53b2o$52bobo$54bo4$113b3o$113bo$114bo5$40b2o$39bobo$41bo4$126b3o$126bo$127bo5$27b2o$26bobo$28bo4$139b3o$139bo$140bo5$14b2o$13bobo$15bo4$152b3o$152bo$153bo5$b2o$obo$2bo! #C p52 (H+G)-to-(H+G) , from "13131"x = 249, y = 102, rule = B3/S2359b3o$59bo$60bo4$52b2o27bo$51b2o27b2o$53bo26bobo4$44b2o$44bobo25b3o26b2o$44bo27bo28bobo$73bo27bo3$37bo$36b2o27b2o27bo$36bobo25b2o27b2o27b2o$66bo26bobo25b2o$115b2o6bo9b2o$117bo15bo4bo3b2o$117bob2o18bob2obo$28b3o26b2o55b3o4bo15bobo3bo$28bo28bobo25b3o2b3o28bo10bo2b2ob3o$29bo20b2o5bo27bo7bo4b3o18b3o10b2obo3b2o$50bobo14b4ob2o3b2o7bo3b2obo6bo32b2o8bo$49b2ob3o14b5o3bobo12b3o3bobo42bo$49b2o3b2o16bo2bo3bo13b2o3b2o$21b2o3b2o5bo21b2o9bo2b2o3bo$20b2o3b2obo5bo20bo11b4o3bo4bo$b2o4b2o3bo9bo2b2obo5b2o18bo20bo3bo26b2o$3b5o4b2o14b2o3b2o3b2o37bo28bobo25b3o26b2o$ob2o9b2o14bo3bo44bo27bo27bo28bobo$b4obo2b5o121bo27bo$5bo3b4obo$12b3o27bo$12b2o27b2o27b2o27bo$14bo26bobo25b2o27b2o27b2o27bo$71bo26bobo25b2o27b2o27b2o$128bo26bobo25b2o$185bo2$33b3o26b2o$33bo28bobo25b3o26b2o$34bo27bo27bo28bobo25b3o26b2o$91bo27bo27bo28bobo25b3o$148bo27bo27bo$205bo$55bo$54b2o27b2o27bo$54bobo25b2o27b2o27b2o27bo$84bo26bobo25b2o27b2o27b2o27bo$141bo26bobo25b2o27b2o$198bo26bobo2$75b2o$75bobo25b3o26b2o$75bo27bo28bobo25b3o26b2o$104bo27bo27bo28bobo25b3o26b2o$161bo27bo27bo28bobo$218bo27bo2$96b2o27bo$95b2o27b2o27b2o27bo$97bo26bobo25b2o27b2o27b2o27bo$154bo26bobo25b2o27b2o$211bo26bobo3$116b3o26b2o$116bo28bobo25b3o26b2o$117bo27bo27bo28bobo25b3o$174bo27bo27bo$231bo2$138bo$137b2o27b2o27bo$137bobo25b2o27b2o27b2o$167bo26bobo25b2o$224bo3$158b2o$158bobo25b3o26b2o$158bo27bo28bobo$187bo27bo4$179b2o27bo$178b2o27b2o$180bo26bobo5$199b3o$199bo$200bo! ??? Iteration of sigma(n)+tau(n)-n [sigma(n)+tau(n)-n : OEIS A163163] (e.g. 16,20,28,34,24,44,46,30,50,49,11,3,3, ...) : 965808 is period 336 (max = 207085118608). AbhpzTa Posts: 468 Joined: April 13th, 2016, 9:40 am Location: Ishikawa Prefecture, Japan Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread AbhpzTa wrote: Sokwe wrote:I've been thinking about a potential p52 gun recently. A p52 Herschel track is possible, but I have only been able to get gliders out of the very end of the track:... How about... They do look enticing, but they're incompatible with the p52 track; we need a method to suppress the red glider: x = 543, y = 152, rule = 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What do you do with ill crystallographers? Take them to the mono-clinic! calcyman Posts: 2060 Joined: June 1st, 2009, 4:32 pm Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread OH MY GOODNESS IS THIS A NEW PHOENIX(technically it's not an expansion of phoenix 1): x = 20, y = 20, rule = B3/S2310bo$8bobo$12bo$6b2o$12b2o$6bo$4bo9bobo$2bobo11bo$18bo$2o$18b2o$bo$3bo11bobo$3bobo9bo$13bo$6b2o$12b2o$7bo$9bobo$9bo!

x = 10, y = 12, rule = B3/S235bo$5bobo$3bo$8b2o$2b2o$8bo$bo$6b2o$2o$6bo$2bobo$4bo! or this: x = 14, y = 14, rule = B3/S235bo$5bobo$3bo5bo$9bobo$2b2o$12b2o$bo$12bo$2o$10b2o$2bobo$4bo5bo$6bobo$8bo!
x = 8, y = 10, rule = B3/S233b2o$3b2o$2b3o$4bobo$2obobobo$3bo2bo$2bobo2bo$2bo4bo$2bo4bo$2bo! No football of any dui mauris said that. 83bismuth38 Posts: 453 Joined: March 2nd, 2017, 4:23 pm Location: Still sitting around in Sagittarius A... Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread Regarding a potential p52 gun, the original p52 reflector creates a large piece of debris that needs to be deleted by an eater3. Crashing a glider into the debris or applying a p4 sparker might give something useful. Here's a 180-degree reflection reaction that seems useless: x = 40, y = 51, rule = B3/S2320b2o$16b2o2bobo$16bo2bob2o$18b3obob2o$14b4o3bo2bo$14bo3bo5bo$16bobob4o$15b2ob2o$18bo2b3o$18bo5bo$5b2o9bobo5bo12bobo$5b3o7bobob4obob2o9b2o$14bo2bob4ob2obo10bo$5bo2bo4bo3bo$5bobo6b3o2bo2bob3o$7bo8bobo6bobo$17b2o3b2o3bo$5bo6bo5b2ob2ob3o$2o2b3o3b2o2bo4bo2bobo$2o3bobo6b2o$6b3o2b2ob2o3bo3bo$7bo13bo2$24bobo$6b2o16b2o$6b2o17bo$13bo$13bo$2b2o8bobo$3bo9bobo$3bob2o6b3o9b2o$4bo2bo6bo10bobo$6b2o19bo$27b2o2$21bobo$22b2o$22bo4$6b2o$7b2o$6bo5$34bobo$35b2o$35bo!

83bismuth38 wrote:Is this a new phoenix?

No, those are all well-known.
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83bismuth38 wrote:OH MY GOODNESS IS THIS A NEW PHOENIX(technically it's not an expansion of phoenix 1): ... EDIT: what about this?: ... or this: ...

It is ridiculously easy to create period 2 oscillators by combining small pieces together as one would toy train tracks. It's even easy to create glider syntheses of rectangular phoenixes like your last two examples. I have syntheses for those two that were last updated in 2002, and I think Dave Buckingham first synthesized them in the 1990s or earlier. You should familiarize yourself with some of the existing pattern collections, like jslife. You will find many expandable oscillators like this one there.
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A long time ago I did some investigations into Period 2 oscillators, trying to classify the various rotors and their constituent parts, and understand how to fit those parts together. I've still got some pages I last edited back in 2006 at http://pentadecathlon.com/rotors/rotors.php?page=0 on this subject.

Also, somewhere in these forums I posted a few RLE patterns showing some of the large oscillators that can be constructed from all of these parts. They demonstrated that there's a lot of very simple parts that can be combined together in fairly complicated ways.

Also, Nicolai Beluchenko published "Oscichemistry" back around 2004, a more developed investigation into this topic. I think David Greene made that available on his server, and I'm sure there are links to it floating around here.
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hkoenig wrote:Also, Nicolai Beluchenko published "Oscichemistry" back around 2004, a more developed investigation into this topic. I think David Greene made that available on his server, and I'm sure there are links to it floating around here.

Yes, that's available here:

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ah, oh well. i got super excited but reminded myself it was VERY small so I shouldn't get my hopes up... oh well, it's fine. saves more potential for later
x = 8, y = 10, rule = B3/S233b2o$3b2o$2b3o$4bobo$2obobobo$3bo2bo$2bobo2bo$2bo4bo$2bo4bo$2bo! No football of any dui mauris said that. 83bismuth38 Posts: 453 Joined: March 2nd, 2017, 4:23 pm Location: Still sitting around in Sagittarius A... Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread Monomer form of the p18 honey farm hassler: x = 34, y = 18, rule = B3/S233bo$3b3o16b2o$6bo14bo2bo$5bo11b2o2bob2o3b2o$5bo3bo7bobobo2bobo2bo$10bo8bobo2bob2obob2o$5bo5bo6bobobobobo2bobo$5bo5bo6bo5bobob2o2bo$5bo5bo15bo2bobo$2b2o2bo3bo7b3o7bobob2o$bobo3b3o17bo2bobo$bo16bo5bobob2o2bo$2o16bobobobobo2bobo$5b2o12bobo2bob2obob2o$6bo10bobobo2bobo2bo$3b3o11b2o2bob2o3b2o$3bo17bo2bo$22b2o!

EDIT: 4 new p7s derived from a component here:
x = 70, y = 18, rule = B3/S235bobo15bobo15bobo20bobo$2o2bob2o2bo7b2o2bob2o2bo7b2o2bob2o2bo12b2o2bob2o2bo$o3bo3b3o7bo3bo3b3o7bo3bo3b3o12bo3bo3b3o$b3ob2o12b3ob2o12b3ob2o17b3ob2o$3bobob2o12bobob2o12bobob2o17bobob2o$7bobo15bobo15bobo20bobo$5b2obo14b2obo14b2obo19b2obo5$6bob2o15bob2o15bob2o16b2obo$5bobo16bobo16bobo20bobo$6b2obobo13b2obobo13b2obobo12bobob2o$8b2ob3o13b2ob3o13b2ob3o8b3ob2o$4b3o3bo3bo8b3o3bo3bo8b3o3bo3bo6bo3bo3b3o$4bo2b2obo2b2o8bo2b2obo2b2o8bo2b2obo2b2o6b2o2bob2o2bo$7bobo16bobo16bobo16bobo! x₁=ηx V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη) K=(Λu²)/2 Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt) $$x_1=\eta x$$ $$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$ $$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$ $$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$ http://conwaylife.com/wiki/A_for_all Aidan F. Pierce A for awesome Posts: 1820 Joined: September 13th, 2014, 5:36 pm Location: 0x-1 Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread p46 shuttles have a new friend: x = 26, y = 13, rule = B3/S2314bo$3b2o7b2ob2o$3b2o7b2ob2o5bob2o$22b2obo2$2b2o$3bo$3o$o13bo$13bobobob2o$12bob2ob2obo$12bo$11b2o!
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Kazyan wrote:p46 shuttles have a new friend...

Wow! I wish it had been p41 instead of p46, but maybe that will be the next new high-period oscillator. Meanwhile -- very nice phi spark! And obviously pretty simple to construct, though I don't think slmake can quite do it without a few hints added to the bespoke folder.

x = 26, y = 21, rule = B3/S2322bo$22bobo$22b2o6$24b2o$3b2o19bo$3b2o17bobo$8b2o12b2o$8b2o$2b2o$3bo$3o$o13bo$13bobobo$12bob2ob3o$12bo7bo$11b2o6b2o! Was that a case of finding a clearly hopeless PL38P conduit, and then thinking, "No, that PR8P conduit couldn't possibly make that connection"... and then it did? Or did you run a speculative search for something to move the PR8P output back to its input? dvgrn Moderator Posts: 5716 Joined: May 17th, 2009, 11:00 pm Location: Madison, WI Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread dvgrn wrote:Wow! I wish it had been p41 instead of p46, but maybe that will be the next new high-period oscillator. Meanwhile -- very nice phi spark! And obviously pretty simple to construct, though I don't think slmake can quite do it without a few hints added to the bespoke folder. x = 26, y = 21, rule = B3/S2322bo$22bobo$22b2o6$24b2o$3b2o19bo$3b2o17bobo$8b2o12b2o$8b2o$2b2o$3bo$3o$o13bo$13bobobo$12bob2ob3o$12bo7bo$11b2o6b2o!

Was that a case of finding a clearly hopeless PL38P conduit, and then thinking, "No, that PR8P conduit couldn't possibly make that connection"... and then it did? Or did you run a speculative search for something to move the PR8P output back to its input?

Closer to the latter--I'd wanted to restore a block near a PR8P in such a way that a glider could make a matching Pi for a new G-to-X, but then I was tweaking one of the search results and the thing started oscillating on me. I'll be happy even if nothing else comes out of that search.
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Kazyan wrote:p46 shuttles have a new friend: ...

Very nice! Here is a trivial 19-glider synthesis. (The pi can be made directly without needing a block).
o$17b3o3b3o10$14bo14bo$13b3o14bo$12bobobo11b3o$12bobobo$10boob3oboo$9b obooboboobo$3boo3boobo5boboo$3boo4boobo3boboobboboo$10b3o3b3o3boobo$$bboo3bo3oo13bo13boboboboo12bobooboobo12bo11boo! I looked a bit, but didn't find a gun using two of the new oscillators. BCNU, -dbell dbell Posts: 49 Joined: June 27th, 2013, 12:47 am Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread NIce new osc ^ What ever up there likely useless Cclee Posts: 56 Joined: October 5th, 2017, 9:51 pm Location: de internet Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread dbell wrote:Here is a p46 glider gun built from this new oscillator and a single p46 shuttle... I looked a bit, but didn't find a gun using two of the new oscillators. BCNU, -dbell Cool and welcome to the forums! Please put the pattern RLE around code tags, like this: [code ]RLE[/code ] but without the spaces x = 31, y = 4417boo5boo17boo5boo1117bo7bo15boboo5boobo15bo3booboo3bo16bo3bobo3bo17b3o3b3o1014bo14bo13b3o14bo12bobobo11b3o12bobobo10boob3oboo9bobooboboobo3boo3boobo5boboo3boo4boobo3boboobboboo10b3o3b3o3boobo$$bboo$3bo$3o$o13bo$13boboboboo$12bobooboobo$12bo$11boo! Also, I'm guessing you're David Bell? If you're the person that uploaded to Sakagolue illegally, please PM me. x = 17, y = 10, rule = B3/S23b2ob2obo5b2o$11b4obo$2bob3o2bo2b3o$bo3b2o4b2o$o2bo2bob2o3b4o$bob2obo5bo2b2o$2b2o4bobo2b3o$bo3b5ob2obobo$2bo5bob2o$4bob2o2bobobo!

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You guessed correctly. It is me.

Thanks for reposting my pattern in the preferred format. I'll do it correctly in the future.

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Kazyan wrote:p46 shuttles have a new friend:

Very cool! (That's xp46_wbdz0ggy2bdz2ddy125b8ozz066wc4ozy311, BTW.)

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