Not very interesting rule: B2ce3-ajnr/S12-ak3-a

[testitemqlstudop]

Hey, the last four alphabet letters spell "Saka"!

[Hdjensofjfnen]

Hey, the last four alphabet letters spell "Saka"!

They do, but they're too far apart to be noticeable really.
EDIT: Alternate 5G of the 4p8:

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x = 35, y = 21, rule = B2ce3-ajnr/S12-ak3-a
21bo$19bobo10bo$33b2o4$o$o$bo2$24bo$24bo4$b2o$o3$32bobo$32bo!

EDIT: 7G of Hunting's "Sigh..."

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x = 40, y = 27, rule = B2ce3-ajnr/S12-ak3-a
33bo$33bo$34bo4$21bo$19bobo10bo$33b2o4$o$o$bo2$24bo$24bo2$38b2o2$b2o
35bo$o2$32bo$31bo$31bo!

EDIT: I really hope this isn't the most efficient synthesis:

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x = 106, y = 27, rule = B2ce3-ajnr/S12-ak3-a
33bo28bo$33bo28bo20bo$34bo28bo20b2o4$21bo28bo49bo$19bobo10bo15bobo10bo
38bo$33b2o27b2o33bo5bo$84bo10b2o7b2o$83bo$83bo$o79bo19bo$o79bo19bo$bo$
79b3o17b3o$24bo28bo$24bo28bo26bo19bo$80bo19bo$38b2o27b2o2$b2o35bo28bo$
o2$32bo28bo$31bo28bo$31bo28bo!

EDIT: It's not. 6G:

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x = 56, y = 16, rule = B2ce3-ajnr/S12-ak3-a
9bo$9bo$2o8bo$29bo20bo$bo27bo20bo$28bobo17b2obo$29bo20bo$29bo20bo$10bo
13bo3bobo17b2obo$9bo15bo3bo20bo$9bo15bo3bo20bo4$45b2o7b2o$47bo5bo!

EDIT: 7G of bismuth's still life:

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x = 64, y = 16, rule = B2ce3-ajnr/S12-ak3-a
9bo$9bo$2o8bo51bo$29bo20bo11bo$bo27bo20bo12bo$28bobo17b2obo$29bo20bo$
29bo20bo$10bo13bo3bobo17b2obo$9bo15bo3bo20bo$9bo15bo3bo20bo3$59bo$53b
2o3bo$52bo5bo!

EDIT: 10G. Probably a 9G with some luck:

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x = 71, y = 25, rule = B2ce3-ajnr/S12-ak3-a
9bo$9bo59bo$2o8bo58bo$29bo20bo19bo$bo27bo20bo9bo$28bobo17b2obo8bo$29bo
20bo10bo$29bo20bo$10bo13bo3bobo17b2obo$9bo15bo3bo20bo$9bo15bo3bo20bo2$
64bo$59bo3bo$53b2o3bo4bo$52bo5bo8$45b2o$47bo!

[Hunting]

It's nice to know that this thread is still alive.

Probably need some 3G-collisions script.

[Hunting]

4G of a new 9p6!

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x = 15, y = 18, rule = B2ce3-ajnr/S12-ak3-a
4bo2$3b2o4$14bo$12b2o4$12b2o$14bo4$2o$2bo!

EDIT: An odd interaction which might go somewhere:

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x = 13, y = 9, rule = B2ce3-ajnr/S12-ak3-a
9bo$2bo$2o$7bo3bo$6b7o$7bo3bo3$9bo!

That's almost a solution for my last spark-synthesis puzzle. Check gen25 and the extra dot doesn't affect the spark.

[Moosey]

Also:

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x = 18, y = 17, rule = B2ce3-ajnr/S12-ak3-a
2bo$2o2$15bo$6bo3bo5b2o$4b2o5b2o7$b2o$3bo2$13b2o$12bo!
#C[[ T 17 PAUSE 1  T 18 PAUSE 1 ]]

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x = 13, y = 16, rule = B2ce3-ajnr/S12-ak3-a
10bo$10bobo5$2bo5bo$2o7b2o7$2o7b2o$2bo5bo!
#C[[ STOP 21 ]]

[Hdjensofjfnen]

Only necroposting because I found a cheaper synthesis (6G --> 4G) of the frozen clock:

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x = 13, y = 11, rule = B2ce3-ajnr/S12-ak3-a
2bo$2o3$6bo3bo$4b2o5b2o4$4b2o$6bo!

[Hunting]

Only necroposting because I found a cheaper synthesis (6G --> 4G) of the frozen clock:

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x = 13, y = 11, rule = B2ce3-ajnr/S12-ak3-a
2bo$2o3$6bo3bo$4b2o5b2o4$4b2o$6bo!

Well, this necroposting is good for me.

[Hdjensofjfnen]

6P14 (xp14_lzaz1) in 4 gliders:

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x = 13, y = 14, rule = B2ce3-ajnr/S12-ak3-a
2bo$obo3$9b2o$8bo$3bo$bobo4$12bo$11bo$11bo!

[Hunting]

6P14 (xp14_lz1) in 4 gliders:

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x = 13, y = 14, rule = B2ce3-ajnr/S12-ak3-a
2bo$obo3$9b2o$8bo$3bo$bobo4$12bo$11bo$11bo!

Is this done by a 4G script?

[Hdjensofjfnen]

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screwed up the apgcode the first time around

Is this done by a 4G script?

No, actually -- it's done by hand. Although such a script is a good idea.

[Hunting]

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screwed up the apgcode the first time around

Is this done by a 4G script?

No, actually -- it's done by hand. Although such a script is a good idea.

Is this some sort of TaE, or did you find the reaction in Catagolue?

[Hdjensofjfnen]

Is this some sort of TaE, or did you find the reaction in Catagolue?

Yes, it's trial and error. I don't bother with hunting through Catagolue soups (at least not yet), and I've found that with symmetrical reactions if you throw your knife enough times, you're bound to hit something.
EDIT: Also, this rule is one of those rules that has a weird synthesis-related property: if you have something that looks vaguely like something you want to synthesize and you throw a lot of gliders at it, it has a good chance of stabilizing into that object. These two methods are how I find my synths in this rule.

[Hunting]

Is this some sort of TaE, or did you find the reaction in Catagolue?

Yes, it's trial and error. I don't bother with hunting through Catagolue soups (at least not yet), and I've found that with symmetrical reactions if you throw your knife enough times, you're bound to hit something.

Whew. That's good. (Hunting through Catagolue soups don't give satisfiying results sometimes, most of the time, it just magically appeared from a random cloud)

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[Hdjensofjfnen]

Alternate synthesis of long^1 chain:

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x = 8, y = 12, rule = B2ce3-ajnr/S12-ak3-a
5bo$5bobo5$o$bo$bo$5b2o2$5bo!

EDIT: For some reason I never synthesized this, although I feel I should have. Six gliders:

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x = 15, y = 15, rule = B2ce3-ajnr/S12-ak3-a
6bo$6bo$5bobo$6bo$6bo$5bobo$o5bo$bo4bo$bo4$2b2o10bo$4bo8bo$13bo!

[Hdjensofjfnen]

I've finally come around to synthesizing that diagonal ship I was talking about upwards of a year ago:

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x = 53, y = 17, rule = B2ce3-ajnr/S12-ak3-a
40bo$38bobo$50bo$24b2o18b2o5b2o3$24bo19bo$6bo17bo19bo$2o4bobo$2bo43b2o
2$24b2o$26bo2$29bo$28bo$28bo!

Six gliders is all. The soups, in the end, turned out to be entirely useless in the face of good old incremental steps.

[yujh]

Oops!

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x = 23, y = 20, rule = B2ce3-ajnr/S12-ak3-a
bo2$2o3$14bo$14bo$13bobo$14bo$14bo$13bobo$8bo5bo$9bo4bo$9bo4$b2o7b2o
10bo$3bo8bo8bo$21bo!

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x = 26, y = 28, rule = B2ce3-ajnr/S12-ak3-a
bo2$2o6$14bo$14bo$13bobo$14bo$14bo$13bobo$8bo5bo$9bo4bo$9bo4$10b2o10bo
$2o10bo8bo$21bo$bo3$24b2o$23bo!

[Hdjensofjfnen]

Oops!

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x = 26, y = 28, rule = B2ce3-ajnr/S12-ak3-a
bo2$2o6$14bo$14bo$13bobo$14bo$14bo$13bobo$8bo5bo$9bo4bo$9bo4$10b2o10bo
$2o10bo8bo$21bo$bo3$24b2o$23bo!

EDIT: 7G of bismuth's still life:

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x = 64, y = 16, rule = B2ce3-ajnr/S12-ak3-a
9bo$9bo$2o8bo51bo$29bo20bo11bo$bo27bo20bo12bo$28bobo17b2obo$29bo20bo$
29bo20bo$10bo13bo3bobo17b2obo$9bo15bo3bo20bo$9bo15bo3bo20bo3$59bo$53b
2o3bo$52bo5bo!

EDIT: 3G of a 4-cell pseudo SL:

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x = 11, y = 7, rule = B2ce3-ajnr/S12-ak3-a
2bo$2o7bo$9bo$10bo$4bo$3bo$3bo!

[Hdjensofjfnen]

5G of an 8-cell inducting SL (xs8_22r22):

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x = 14, y = 16, rule = B2ce3-ajnr/S12-ak3-a
5bo5bo$3bobo5bobo5$8b2o2$3b2o3bo$5bo4$o$bo$bo!

I also found a solution to xs8_44r44 which was doable in about 8-10G, but have since lost it.
EDIT: Well, this is rather strange:

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x = 9, y = 8, rule = B2ce3-ajnr/S12-ak3-a
4bo$2b5o2$4bo$4bo2$2o5b2o$2bo3bo!

EDIT: A component to add a beret inductor. Terrible clearance, though.

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x = 25, y = 16, rule = B2ce3-ajnr/S12-ak3-a
2bo19bo$obo2bo13bo2bobo2$4b2o13b2o7$6bobo7bobo$8bo3bo3bo$12bo$11bobo$
12bo$12bo!

Until I find a better one, dumping this 6G xp4_5050505 synthesis here:

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x = 9, y = 13, rule = B2ce3-ajnr/S12-ak3-a
2bo3bo2$b2o3b2o2$4bo$4bo$3bobo$4bo$4bo2$o7bo$bo5bo$bo5bo!

Oh, and this 6G of xp4_cbcz06:

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x = 13, y = 11, rule = B2ce3-ajnr/S12-ak3-a
7bo$bo2bo2bobo$bo2bo$o$11b2o$10bo3$4b2o2$4bo!

EDIT: Working on the other half of this. Hopefully the ship should have a synthesis soon.

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x = 17, y = 15, rule = B2ce3-ajnr/S12-ak3-aHistory
5.A$5.A$4.A2$.D4.D$D.D2.D.D$2.4D$2.D2.D3$9.2A$8.A$15.2A2$15.A!

EDIT: 6G of xs7_44r4:

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x = 11, y = 13, rule = B2ce3-ajnr/S12-ak3-a
bo7bo$bo7bo$o9bo3$2bo2bo$2ob2ob2o$2bo2bo3$o$bo$bo!

5G of xs7_22d3, reduction from 7G:

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x = 11, y = 13, rule = B2ce3-ajnr/S12-ak3-a
9bo$9bo$10bo3$2bo2bo$2ob2ob2o$2bo2bo3$o$bo$bo!

Component that solves a few larger chain-based SLs:

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x = 13, y = 8, rule = B2ce3-ajnr/S12-ak3-a
2bo2bo$2ob2ob2o$2bo2bo$2bo2bo3$5bobo2bobo$7bo2bo!

EDIT: 11G of xs8_44r44, which is definitely not optimal, as I remember finding an 8G collision producing it that I lost.

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x = 14, y = 12, rule = B2ce3-ajnr/S12-ak3-a
12bo$12bo$13bo$2bo$2bo2bo3bo$2ob2ob2o2b2o$2bo2bo$2bo2bo$11b2o$6bo3bo$
7bo$7bo!

EDIT: Managed 9G:

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x = 13, y = 13, rule = B2ce3-ajnr/S12-ak3-a
7bo$7bo$6bo$10bo$2bo2bo4bobo$2bo2bo$2ob2ob2o$2bo2bo$2bo2bo4bobo$10bo$
6bo$7bo$7bo!

EDIT: Sweet! Largest SL synthesized to date, which can be described as chain siamese clock siamese clock siamese chain:

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x = 26, y = 17, rule = B2ce3-ajnr/S12-ak3-a
20bo2$8bo11b2o$8bo5bo$7bo7b2o2$2bo$2o9bo2bo$9b2ob2ob2o$11bo2bo9b2o$23b
o2$9b2o7bo$11bo5bo$4b2o11bo2$5bo!

Also gives clock siamese clock in 21G:

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x = 24, y = 17, rule = B2ce3-ajnr/S12-ak3-a
16bo$14b2o$22bo$2bo$obo19b2o2$12bo2bo$10bo2b2ob2o$8bo2b2o2bo$6b2ob2o2b
o$8bo2bo2$2o19bobo$21bo$bo$8b2o$7bo!

[Hdjensofjfnen]

The rule's smallest c/2o ship in 11G:

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x = 26, y = 13, rule = B2ce3-ajnr/S12-ak3-a
4bo16bo2$3b2o16b2o$11bo2bo$9b2ob2ob2o$11bo2bo$11bo2bo$obo20bobo$2bo20b
o$5bobo10bobo$7bo2b2o6bo2$11bo!

[Hunting]

The rule's smallest c/2o ship in 11G:

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x = 26, y = 13, rule = B2ce3-ajnr/S12-ak3-a
4bo16bo2$3b2o16b2o$11bo2bo$9b2ob2ob2o$11bo2bo$11bo2bo$obo20bobo$2bo20b
o$5bobo10bobo$7bo2b2o6bo2$11bo!

We have a new goldtiger!

Congrats!

[Hdjensofjfnen]

We have a new goldtiger!

Congrats!

Thanks, but it doesn't match what Goldtiger does in Life, particularly because you can just naively smash gliders together in this rule to get what you want.

EDIT: xp10_l0lz2 in 2G + xp6_l0l:

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x = 9, y = 15, rule = B2ce3-ajnr/S12-ak3-a
bo$7bo$2o$7b2o5$2bo2$2bo2$2bo2$2bo!

There is another distinct p10 oscillator, xp10_405010l0l, in this rule, which is indeed a potent sparker:

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x = 11, y = 18, rule = B2ce3-ajnr/S12-ak3-a
9bo2$4bo4b2o$2bobo8$obobobobo2$obobobobo2$4bobo2$4bo!

[Hdjensofjfnen]

xs9_44ll4 synthesized in 4G:

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x = 15, y = 8, rule = B2ce3-ajnr/S12-ak3-a
9bo$10b2o3$14bo$5bo7bo$2bo2bo7bo$2o4bo!

This also solves xs8_4ll4 in 5G:

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x = 9, y = 7, rule = B2ce3-ajnr/S12-ak3-a
7bo$7bo$b2o5bo2$5o2$b2o!

And xs9_g0s522z1 in 6G:

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x = 14, y = 9, rule = B2ce3-ajnr/S12-ak3-a
5b2o$o$bo2b5o$bo$5b2o2$13bo$12bo$12bo!

EDIT: Weird component when playing around with the last still life gives another still life in 7G:

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x = 9, y = 6, rule = B2ce3-ajnr/S12-ak3-a
3bo$4b2o$2b2o$2bo5bo$obo4bo$o6bo!

EDIT: Another interesting component that solves xs8_16q44 and xs12_16q44a44 in 5G:

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x = 9, y = 14, rule = B2ce3-ajnr/S12-ak3-a
6bo$4b2o2$7bo$7bo$8bo$bo$2bo$2bo2$6b2o$2o$6bo$bo!

[Schiaparelliorbust]

p4 2c/4 spaceship found with rlifesrc:

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x = 29, y = 34, rule = B2ce3-ajnr/S12-ak3-a
9$7bo4bo$6bobo2bobo$8b4ob2o$8bo2bobob3o$13bobobo$12b2o3bo$15b2o$11b2ob
obob3o$10bobo3bobobo$9bo2bo3bobo$8b2o2b2o$17bo$9bo2bo4bo$16bobo$16b3o
2$16b3o$17bo!

Sorry if it is known. I don't know how to reduce it. Rlifesrc can't find even a c/3 spaceship in this rule. I'm still going to search though.
Edit:
That was the cropped version of the spaceship. I thought the rest was p2, but I didn't notice that it had a p4 backend. Here is the whole spaceship:

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x = 32, y = 81, rule = B2ce3-ajnr/S12-ak3-a
2$11bo4bo$10bobo2bobo$12b4ob2o$12bo2bobob3o$17bobobo$16b2o3bo$19b2o$
15b2obobob3o$14bobo3bobobo$13bo2bo3bobo$12b2o2b2o$21bo$13bo2bo4bo$20bo
bo$10b3o7b3o$10bob2o$20b3o$21bo$10b3o$11bo$12b2o$12bobo2b3o2b3o$12bo4b
obo2bobo$13bo5bo2bo$13bo$13bo4bo$17bo$10b3o3b2o2b3o$10bob2o6bobo$17bo
2bo2$10b3o6bo$11bo6bo$12b2o3b2o2b3o$12bobo6bobo$12bo5bo2bo$13bo$13bo$
13bo2b3o2b3o$16bobo2bobo$10b3o5bo2bo$10bob2o$17bo$16bo$10b3o2b2o2b3o$
11bo7bobo$12b2o2bo2bo$12bobo$12bo$13bo2b3o2b3o$13bo2bobo2bobo$13bo4bo
2bo2$14b3o$13b2obo2$12b2obob3o2b3o$11bobobobobo2bobo$13bobo3bo2bo$13bo
b2o2$12b2o$13b6o$14bobob2o2b3o$15bo3bo2bobo$14bobo2bo2bo2$12b2o!

[Hdjensofjfnen]

Nice find! That is indeed the first known 2c/4 orthogonal in the rule. The second p4 tagalong can be attached to the same backend as the first p4 tagalong:

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x = 51, y = 18, rule = B2ce3-ajnr/S12-ak3-a
bo4bo23bo4bo$obo2bobo21bobo2bobo$2b4ob2o22b4ob2o$2bo2bobob3o19bo2bobob
3o$7bobobo24bobobo$6b2o3bo23b2o3bo$9b2o27b2o$5b2obobob3o19b2obobob3o$
4bobo3bobobo18bobo3bobobo$3bo2bo3bobo19bo2bo3bobo$2b2o2b2o23b2o2b2o$
11bo26b2o$3bo2bo4bo20bo2bo3b6o$10bobo27bobob2o2b3o$10b3o28bo3bo2bobo$
40bobo2bo2bo$10b3o$11bo26b2o!

As for your comment that rlifesrc can't find a c/3 orthogonal ship, the output from the program on my end suggests that c/3 orthogonal is impossible.

Also, here's a 6G of xs8_220f06:

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x = 15, y = 24, rule = B2ce3-ajnr/S12-ak3-a
13bo$3bo$bobo9b2o3$7bo$8b2o4$7bo$7bo$2o6bo2$bo6$2b2o2$3bo!

This also gives xs8_220f044 and the not-yet-natural xs8_220f022 syntheses in 8G:

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x = 21, y = 14, rule = B2ce3-ajnr/S12-ak3-a
2bo13bo$2bo13bo2$b4o9b4o2$2b2o11b2o4$7bo12bo$6bo12bo$o5bo6bo5bo$bo12bo
$bo12bo!