User talk:Entity Valkyrie/Pseudo-p82 glider gun

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The known-but-interesting mechanism explained in this article might make sense as an embedded example pattern under the "Pseudo-period guns" section in the Guns article, but it doesn't seem like a good stand-alone article. The pattern is unnecessarily big. It has a slightly non-standard name -- ordinarily it would be something like "Pseudo-p82 gun" or "Pseudo-period-82 glider gun". The article was created by the inventor of the pattern, which is, um, quite often not a good idea.

Here's a smaller pattern that includes both a true-period p82 gun (right) and a pseudo-period 82 gun (left and right together). Not sure if this would ultimately be less or more confusing as an example of the distinction between "true" and "pseudo", though!

x = 146, y = 78, rule = B3/S23
91b2o11bo$91b2o10bobo$103bobo2b2o3bo$102b2ob2o2bo2bobo$106bobo3bobo12b
2o$102b2obo2b4obo13bo$102b2obobo3bo13bobo$106bobo3bo12b2o$107bobo3bo$
108bo3b2o$139b2o$139b2o$100bobo2b2o$99bo3bob3o$100bo6b2o$84b2o7bo7b5ob
o$83bo2bo6b2o8b4o$82bob2o6bobo9bo39b2o$82bo61b2o$81b2o$96b2o33b3o$96bo
32b4ob2o$97b3o24bobo4b2o2bo$99bo11b2o11b2o7b3o$112bo15bobo$109b3o$109b
o7$122bo$97b2o23bobo$53bo11b2o30bo24b2o$14b2o36bobo10b2o28bobo$14bo29b
o3b2o2bobo40b2o10bo$12bobo15bo12bobo2bo2b2ob2o33b4o14b3o$12b2o16b3o10b
obo3bobo35b4ob2o16bo$33bo10bob4o2bob2o31b2ob2obo15b2o$18b2o12b2o12bo3b
obob2o18b2o9b2obo2bo32b2o$19bo25bo3bobo10b3o9b2o8b2o3bob2o31bo$16b3o
25bo3bobo10bo2bo20bobobob2o28b2obo$16bo27b2o3bo11bo3bo20b3o31bo2bo$23b
2o35bo26bo33b2o$23bo37b2o3b2o30bo16b2o$2b2o17bobo39bo5bo26bobo11b2o3b
2o$bobo17b2o41bo4bo27b2o11bobobo2b2o$bo61bo5bo38b4o4b3o$2o59b2o3b2o4b
2o2b2o29bob2o2bo3b2o$16b3o41bo10bo2bo2bo15b2o3bo8bo4b6o$15b2obo42bo3bo
6b2ob2o16bo3bobo8b2ob6o$14b2obo46bo8bobo18bo3bobo9b2ob2o$15bobo42bo3bo
8bobo19bo3bobob2o7bo$16b2o4bo37bo13bo11b2o5bob4o2bob2o7b2ob2o$20bobo
38bo24bo5bobo3bobo12bobo$2b2o17b2o9b2o24b3o26b3o2bobo2bo2b2ob2o9bo$3bo
28b2o11b2o11bo30bo3bo3b2o2bobo$3bobo39bo17b2o36bobo10b2o$4b2o8bo31b3o
15bo37bo11b2o$10bo2bobo32bo15bobo$8b3o3bo50b2o$7bo63bo$5b3ob4o56b2o9b
2o$4bo4bo2bo57b2o8b2o$5b3o$7b2o$63b2o$63b2o5b2o$70b2o2$76bo$75bobo$68b
2o6b2o$42bo26bo$43bo22b3o$41b3o22bo!

There are quite a few other possible periods for which this kind of trick will work, including various infinite series of periods using adjustable reflectors -- e.g., an NW31 with two welded Snarks turning a SE glider output onto the NE edge-shooting glider output. Dvgrn (talk) 03:33, 29 November 2018 (UTC)

I have already stated that this gun MAY NOT BE NOTABLE, It's only the conduit I'm considered about that created 2 glider in the exact same lane without using reflectors or edge shooters. This gun was just one example use of this conduit because it is 82 ticks difference. Entity Valkyrie (talk) 20:35, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
In that case, it would probably be better to have an article about the conduit itself and simply provide the pseudo-gun as an example of its usage, especially considering how extensively the current article talks about it compared to the actual gun. Ian07 (talk) 21:05, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
There are at least five of these H-to-G0 conduits known now -- three in the Elementary Conduits collection, with spacings between gliders of 119, 124, and 324, and the "SW-2T21_SW-2T103" one in this article, and one found by gmc_nxtman a couple of years ago, "NW31T120_NW31T378", with a glider spacing of 258. Neither of the last two have made it into the collection yet -- as usual the ECC is in need of an update.
It looks like "H-to-G0" is a term that has gotten enough general use now that it would be a good new LifeWiki page, with a link to the Gn Life Lexicon article, and a link to it from the Gn article. Probably H-to-G0 wouldn't have an infobox, since there's no single H-to-G0 that the term refers to. It could have a stamp collection of the known H-to-G0s. Does that seem like a reasonable idea to everyone?
The key differences between creating an "H-to-G0" page versus creating something like "Pseudo-p82 glider gun" are that 1) someone else invented the term, 2) several people are using the term, and 3) someone might actually see "H-to-G0" somewhere else and want to try looking it up on the LifeWiki. Dvgrn (talk) 12:27, 2 December 2018 (UTC)