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Incredible 13c/512 diagonal!, I was lucky to see this thing come out of random soup, it is one of the weirdest ships that I have ever seen: x = 26, y = 27, rule = B2-ac3-jnqr5y67e8/S1c23-akny4 o2bo$o2bo$4o$b2o13$18bo$8bobo5bob3o$10bo5bo3bo$7bo8b2o2bo$7b3o2bo4bobo 2b2o$5b2ob3ob2o4bo3bo$8bo9b5ob2o$7bo...

AforAmpere

How do you see partials on gfind-pt for non-totalistic rules? Also, is there a way to eliminate duplicate spaceships?

AforAmpere

What speeds do you have that just have too high of a period?

AforAmpere

You checked all permutations on the database? I don't have the ships you need, but drc's dropbox collection or the natural ships with strange speeds thread might have something

AforAmpere

Ah, there's only 2251799813685248 rules to search!

AforAmpere

I can't find one either, and I have none on my list. There is none in drc's collection either. I don't know if any are known.

AforAmpere

Yeah, if you go to this, it has all of the gliders, in his format, http://fano.ics.uci.edu/glider.db, to find a specific speed, like c/55, just search :55:1:0, :55

0, :55:0:1, and :55:0:-1, which are the four possible parameters for c/55 p55.

AforAmpere

Actually, I was missing a c/39, but I did a search on the raw data and found one, it is fast, and I am planning to add more to my list.

EDIT, a c/55, only one on the database that is not higher period:

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x = 8, y = 9, rule = B3457/S158
3bo$bo3bo$2bobo$2bo$3o4bo$2bo$2bobo$bo3bo$3bo!

AforAmpere

Thanks for that Muzik. Here's speeds up to c/40. c/27 orthogonal: x = 5, y = 5, rule = B34568/S3678 bo$ob3o$o$ob3o$bo! c/28 orthogonal: x = 5, y = 5, rule = B35678/S2467 obobo$3b2o$bo2bo$3b2o$obobo! c/31 orthogonal: x = 6, y = 7, rule = B34678/S026 3bo$bo$4b2o$o3bo$4b2o$bo$3bo! c/32 orthogonal: x = ...

AforAmpere

c/20 orthogonal:

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x = 3, y = 5, rule = B35678/S1247
b2o$2o$3o$2o$b2o!

c/23 orthogonal:

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x = 4, y = 7, rule = B3/S0145678
bo$bo2$2obo2$bo$bo!

c/26 orthogonal:

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x = 7, y = 6, rule = B3457/S04578
2bobo$4ob2o$o5bo$o5bo$4ob2o$2bobo!

AforAmpere

c/20 orthogonal: x = 4, y = 5, rule = B35678/S1247 obo$2bo$o2bo$2bo$obo! c/23 orthogonal: x = 4, y = 7, rule = B3/S0145678 bo$bo2$2obo2$bo$bo! c/26 orthogonal: x = 7, y = 6, rule = B3457/S04578 2bobo$4ob2o$o5bo$o5bo$4ob2o$2bobo! EDIT 1: 3c/30 diagonal x = 5, y = 5, rule = B3-q4nrt5nr6i/S2-c3-q4r5cej...

AforAmpere

The c/64 is only in this thread, found by me, so it is already been posted, I am not sure why it ended up in your post.

AforAmpere

Where is this ntzfind version located? The one that I have is on the zfind discussion thread, and it can't do diagonal. Sorry for being off-topic. Can you show me where it is, please?

AforAmpere

Thanks Sokwe! Is it possible to search non-totalistic rules with it? I want to search for diagonal ships in the rule above, but ntzfind can't do that.

AforAmpere

No, I just looked through thousands of rules, because I had a lot of time. It is kind of ridiculous, but I have like 200 speeds, with many at 5 cell ships. A script could be written for it, David Eppstein has a raw data file, that with a simple python program, it could probably read. I tried to writ...

AforAmpere

I have a huge list of spaceships, most from the glider database.

AforAmpere

c/22:

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x = 8, y = 6, rule = B3567/S1367
b2o2b2o$obo2bobo$2bo2bo3$3b2o!

c/29:

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x = 7, y = 4, rule = B345/S0478
2b3o$ob3obo$b5o$o5bo!

c/30:

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x = 9, y = 5, rule = B346/S3578
bo5bo$b2obob2o$3o3b3o$4bo$bo5bo!

AforAmpere

Asked for a c/21? Here you go.

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x = 5, y = 8, rule = B36/S0135
bobo$2bo$2bo$bobo$bobo$o3bo2$2bo!

AforAmpere

I am just trying to fill in the gaps in the list, so these are probably not optimal, unfortunately a lot of my minimum size ships for totalistic rules are B0 rules. Do you want to see the list, drc? C/21 diagonal: x = 10, y = 10, rule = B345/S05 5bobobo$bo3bo$5bo3bo$5bo3bo$5bo3bo$6o$7bobo$o5b2o2$ob3...

AforAmpere

A lot of strange speeds that I have found 6c/66 orthogonal: x = 4, y = 5, rule = B2-ac3-jnqr67e8/S1c23-akny4 obo$obo$obo$o2bo$o! 3c/25 diagonal: x = 3, y = 3, rule = B34eqyz5/S23 3o$o$o! c/2 diagonal: x = 5, y = 5, rule = B2a3an4i5r/S2ae3a4a 2b3o$bo$o$o2b2o$o2bo! c/64 orthogonal: x = 5, y = 5, rule ...

AforAmpere

This is my favorite two-state rule of all time. It has FIVE three-cell spaceships: x = 37, y = 5, rule = B2ek3-ajny4ajqr5a/S02ack3ackny4aq5y 2bo6bo7bo6bobo7bo$bobo19bo11bo$8bobo7bo13bo$16bo! They travel at speeds of c/2, c/3, c/4, c/5 and 2c/11 diagonal. However, those are not the only speeds, I hav...

AforAmpere

4c/69: x = 36, y = 28, rule = B34q5c6-k78/S234-aqrwy 3$15b3o$14bo3bo$13bo5bo$12bo3bo3bo$12bo7bo$12bobo3bobo$13b2o3b2o4$12bo 7bo$11bobo5bobo$2bo27bo$bobo12bo12bobo$2b3o4bo2bo3bo3bo2bo4b3o$3b2o4bo 6bo6bo4b2o$10bo2b2o3b2o2bo! And in a closely related rule, a C/13 diagonal: x = 5, y = 9, rule = B35c6-k7...

AforAmpere

Here is a fixed rule table that gets rid of some errors and now has the states in the correct order, please tell me if anything else than the already posted error goes wrong, because the table is out of order and complicated, and it would be easier if I changed it. @RULE LogicLand @TABLE n_states:27...

AforAmpere

Yes, the auxiliary inhibited state worked, I just needed to add a state for outputting next to the crossover as well. Thanks! EDIT: I finished the rule table, or at least made a working one, it probably could be improved, I did not put in cases when you have an AND gate and XOR gate on the same outp...

AforAmpere

Does anyone have any ideas on the way to implement the crossover state? From my estimates it seems to take around 80 states to just do the crossover because we cannot do extended neighborhoods in Golly. The 80 states come from all the different combinations of inputs. I can't figure out a way to do ...

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